Installing the First Deck Board (With Camo Markmans Pro)
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2022
- You get the first board wrong, and you will be fighting the rest of the day to install your wood decking. If you take the time to install it right. Installing decking is fun. And it will make your deck look better with straight lines, gapping and consistent overhang.
I enjoy the look of Camo edge fasteners on wood decks. It hides the screw head, making the deck surface more bare feet friendly. Plus, the deck will last longer by removing the small pooling of water and mud on the screw head.
Installing edge screws is easier with the Camo Marksman Pro. This is why mine is so well used, serving me well over the years of building decks.
Link to my review of the Camo Marksman Pro
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Why I use Camo for attaching wood decking.
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Would this work for Cedar boards since they are softer wood?
I like this!
Great job. I'd hire you!
I like the 5/4
How do you attach the board that over hangs with the camo system?
In case anyone wonders why they recommend using a drill instead of an impact its because there have been hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of complaints about the driver bit twisting and snapping.
Using the camo edge screws with redwood decking the softer wood sure does squeak a lot
How do you deal with low points among the joists ? I've planed and belt sanded the high points, but there remain many joists below, in certain areas, the level top surface of the joist/frame ?
I didn’t even see it when it was on the deck. Camo worked good
Bout to do a deck myself but given the how much shrinkage i've seen over the years from my old deck that was 10+ years old and others i've seen, how well does a picture frame deck using real wood look after the wood has had time to shrink/expand?
I like to install the boards with a smaller gap, then once the boards shrink you will have the proper size gapping. Camo also makes a 1/8 gap.
Picture frame mitre joints will open up. It is what it is.
No one shows the hard part. How do you put the screws in the edge of the deck board next to the house?
The way I usually do it is if you got your flat bar pry bar you get it between the house and you're bored and you got to push out a little bit to hold your board tight to the other one.
And then you put your screw to the back of the board if it's not real wide that way when they put the trim or the siding j-track it should cover the screws
Hello help?... We have 19mm Kwila, which specifies using 45mm camo screws. Can only find 60mm in stock, anyone had any issue using the larger screws on 19mm timber? Is the thread the same?
Threads the same it just takes longer to screw.
What size deck board sir
How do you install the screws on the very first board with the 1-inch overhang?
Generally I face screw the first board. Not as pretty but stong and easy. You can attach the overhanging board with small angel brackets, attached to the rim joist. I haven't found it worth it, but it does give you a entirely clean decking.
I noticed you didn't add any joist tape to the joist to prevent rot.
Can you change out the spacers for different sizes or do you need to buy another Camo with a different size spacer?
Each model camo comes with different spacers. I’m gonna use the pro X one. That’s the 16th inch gap for wet wood. Whenever everything dries should be about a quarter inch.
How does it hold up over time? Any warping with the no show fasteners?
I haven't had any complaints. The angle of the screw actually hold more of the board than face screws.
@@decksbye3269 awesome thanks for the reply
Yes. As the deck expands and contracts, the fasteners often tear the edge and no longer hold.
@@michaelboykin9881 The face screwing from the top is more likely to split the board so stuff happens either way.
Yup hes got a hurricane clip made for trusses out tying his joist to his girder.. oh this will work. 😂😂
Says the guy with 4 views on his videos 🤣🤣😂
@No_914 you looked me up? Thanks, so flattered 😢.. what kinda idiot doesn't pressure block down the girder of any an all bearing points but uses a hurricane clip made to tie rafters to top plate in a house??? 😂😂
I see you are using 1-7/8 in screws. What deck boards are you using, 1 x 6 or 5/4 x 6? I am planning to use 5/4 but I am unable to find consistent answer online of the screw length I should use.
1 7/8 is totally fine for trex or treated 1" boards the longer camo screws stand out from the tool and make it a bit harder to gide your drill in. either way the guy in the video is an amature. i do this for a living and i would have installed 4-5 boards in the time he took dicking around with one.
@@porscheguy718 What about hardwood like ipe?
@@BoS-nn5dq Not sure ive never installed ipe just powerwashed and stained it. ive only seen it installed with stainless screws "Facescrewed" which im not a fan of. i would try the camo system before i would go any other way. trex is way different than ipe... in my opinion not worth the cost.
Thanks Kevin for the info.
Just finished my deck using Camo screws and the Pro. Many many many broken screws. Too many. And I had to pull a few boards back up and soooo many would not back out or were bent or once again broken. Not very satisfied with the product. Will not use it again.
Please fire your cameraman 😂
Looks like you salvaged used deck boards. That one looks like hell.
Yeah, I haven't been impressed the last few years with the quality of 5/4 decking being sold.
I think the proper term is “rustic”😉. I put in a bunch of that knotty Cedar and the quality definitely varies. But the knots do help with accepting a certain amount of, well, imperfections 🫤
I wonder if you can take the spacer completely off. Spacing deck boards is a mistake with even the best carpenters. The boards will shrink anyway. If you space them over time, you will have an ugly looking gap.
If installing "green/wet" boards a intialal smaller gap is helpful as you say the gap will grow. Camo does have a smaller gapping tool, but zero initall gapping requires face screwing.
As a 50 year carpenter, ive used the camo system on trex decking..its a good product, but NEVER use it on wood decking. It leaves a space between the boards that looks nice at first. After the wood shrinks up from the exposure to the elements, the gaps will open uo to a half inch and sometimes more. The fasteners will also start splitting the edges if the deckboards as the wood shrinks. Do not make this costly mistake.
Camo has a different jigs for wood and composite decking. The gap is much smaller on pressure treated wood. Of course there are associated risks if the wood gets delivered and installed fully wet.
How old are you 80 years old
I am actually wanting the spacing to help with the drainage which here is excessive.
I hear ya on that
Also need to state the 1st board must be absolutely straight.
Really time consuming !! I'll stick to face screwing
Face screwing looks really bad and now that there are many options for hidden fasteners there is no excuse to face screw.
@william fall No excuse you say. Its time consuming and cost more for customers. If you know how to lay a deck face screwing looks good and cheaper . You must be weekend warrior 🤣🤣
@@williamfall1262 Bruh that's a finishing head screw not much holding power.