It's the ONLY thing stopping me getting this... Those canvas multitasking features are genius and this is the most compelling foldable yet but I just can't with that camera bump... Its like the ugly camera bump on those Xiaomi Pro or Ultimate devices from a few years back... It's not looking great for the OP12 either which seems to have the same camera design 🤦
I've seen several review for this phone, where many are showing mostly only the pros & spotless reviews. I like your review because it show both spectrums of pros and cons; so far I only saw a small number reviewer that does this. Regardless that overall could be more on the pros, it is good to hear complete set of information. Thanks for being informative on the subject.
The pixel doesn't stop at 178. So tired of hearing that crap. It open all the way just fine. Did that the first few hours maybe. It opens flat. Period. This phone looks awesome but even better the software looks miles better than my pixel fold. Oneplus right now will give me 1299 for my iPhone 14 Pro Max trading. I can get the fold for $579 and they are throwing in a pair of wireless headphones. That's a fantastic deal.
One+ website offering up to $1200 off $1699 sale price. Trade in required. There is a check box to obtain discounts. $200 is instant discount for everyone. $1000 appears to be trade in value for your present phone. I thought the website confusing to be honest. Pair of ear buds are free to everyone who pre-orders the phone. It's a no brainer.
software support and phsycal support (where can i get it fixed ) if the z-fold 6 is a larger front display ill wait for it .. what i really want is a note ultra size foldable . then ill be happy !
I don’t use wireless charging because causes the phone to get hot and it seems to degrade the battery. I like oneplus’s decision to omit it. Being lighter and thinner is worth it.
@@Norbitek25 get your facts right. There are scientific investigations on this. The outcome was it doesn't matter if it is wireless or wired. It's the same for the battery.
@@Norbitek25 That's an assumption you made up by yourself. I can assure you it's not from the wireless charging. Please search and read about lithium batteries and charging/wireless charging. And I do not mean articles from stupid websites. I mean research articles from real scientists.
Personally for the night mode feature, i much prefer Oneplus' approach than many others. It looks just how it should look like during night time, preserving the look of the night rather than trying to brighten every single shadow and dark spot in the picture. In the samsung photo, back then its superb, but as many competitors are experimenting with their own approach, i like it less now. Its too processed and artificial with the blueish hazy center, overexposed light sources, as far as I can see. Noise and sharpness those ones I can't really tell for now i think i need to see them in front of me then I can provide an opinion. But looking at the photo overall, the Oneplus night picture is more well balanced and much more pleasing to the eye as they preserved the night look, while samsung is just trying too hard i think. Pixel's photos come close, but i may need more pics to compare.
it's the real flagship killer. consider how expansive the flagship price now. if I'm paying 1200usd for a iphone 15 pro max, may as well pay 300 more for the Oneplus Open. or actually in my region (asia) Oppo will be selling at similar price as ip15pro max. as the wireless charge thing, I think it's a outdated technology and cutting it is the right practical choice. When 25W is considered "fast" charging, when 3500mAh is considered "large" battery, 10w or 20w wireless charging are a thing. I think Xiaomi/Huawei have developed a super fast 50w wireless charging and the charger need cooling with fan. That's exactly how stupid wireless charging become stupid or impractical.
If you were alive during the 70s and before. The western governments were saying the same things about Japanese products. Roll back a hundred years before. And people were saying Swiss products were inferior
Is someone really need a wireless fast charging? I never use it on any phone. The last phone I use on Note 5 fast charging and it was too slow and everybody knows the wire is faster. Anyways, it don't matters if they fix the speed on wireless charging. The wire is still faster and for me I trade my fold 4 and I got an extra bonus $200 plus $200. Something else I forgot they gave me so I'm only paying $258 from my pocket so I'm getting a great deal tire of the Samsung small screen and I got at least at least I'm getting my trading good deal with them. They giving me the 1200 and a half for my phone when most places they give you only $1,000 and if somebody want to sell it to someone then go ahead. You can sell at least 1500 maxima. Nobody spending $2,000 in their pockets
The only negative point is repairs. I'm from Portugal, we don't have OnePlus here and the closest authorized repairer is in Spain. Since it is impossible to open the smartphone without having to damage the carbon part that supports the internal screen, having an authorized repair is mandatory, at least in my opinion
funny that you mentioned pixel fold, because I did went to 2 different stores, including a Samsung store to test fold 6. I have a Note 8 that is 7 y.o. and I want to upgrade. To my surprise and amusement of everyone around me, Fold 6 does slightly worse picture then Note 8 on the main camera. Same lighting, same distance, same everything. I even cleaned the lens on fold. 7 years of development and 2000Euro in price just to downgrade? Some in dept test put one plus open camera very close to iphone 15 pro max, and you say is about the same as the fold. something does not add up here.
How desired is wireless charging? Be curious how may users would rank it as a must have feature and of those, how many honestly only use wireless charging daily. The SuperVOC (etc) rates are so much better and often seem to result in less heat in the device when charging.
one plus is the best of the 3 at the moment i love the natral photos ... looses on the night photos to the z-fold. camera bump is big but i dont care about that . not a fan of time gated softwae updates ( only get updates for 2 years ) thats gotta go for a 1.700 dollar device
Oneplus have taken a third generation phone from their sister company and made it their own and as such I would hope that the lack of development cost would have reflected in the price and it doesn't.
"Most powerful." It has a slower 8 Gen 2 than what the Z Fold 5 has. More RAM is just for running more apps simultaneously. More storage is just more storage. It's definitely NOT the most powerful. 🤣🤣🤣
@@PSYCHOV3N0M you do realize the for galaxy in the gen 2 for the fold is literally the same CPU but ever slightly overclocked 🤣...also if my phone or computer can comfortably run 8 apps while yours can't that means more RAM/ Processing capabilities 😂, also you forgot to mention it's crease is way less noticable , both displays are both brighter and higher ppi than the fold 5 , the phone is definitely more powerful you're just making excuses because you already blindly gave Samsung your paycheck 😂..I'm waiting for u reply with YOU don't need all that and this doesn't matter lol point is the phone is more powerful 😂
Wireless charging is honestly pointless. I've never used it, and its really just inconvenient and slower. I feel like wireless charging is just something tech reviewers like, and real world users dont care.
the one plus is 1499 plus you can trade in a phone on top of that as long as its on their list. You get 200 off, off the top without even needing to trade in a junk phone.
I would never buy a used foldable. I have bought many used and refurbished phones, but the folding screen is such a variable. You don't know what's been done to that phone before.
@@donatebeerhereThat's what buying CERTIFIED refurbished from Amazon is for. Never had a problem with the screen quality from any refurbished phone I purchased from Amazon directly.
Same. I would never by a used foldable. And that brings us to phone insurance. If I have to get my fold replaced for some reason through the phone insurance program, no doubt they will send a refurbished one, they are just as bad as a used phone.
If I could buy this with a camera which is even with the back (let's be honest the results to a old pixel cam were not worth the disgusting bulk) I would consider it despite the price. But I do not spend almost 2k on something that feels "not finished".
@@peacelove8395you're in the minority the biggest complaint or barrier to entry on the fold is most people hate the skinny awkward cover display justify it all you want but most people don't care for it
Even though this is very tempting as a long time OnePlus user, i just can't with their poor update history. I have used OnePlus 2 to 7 and I'm just absolutely done with their slow software updates 🤷🏽♂️
Wireless charging isnt thay big a deal..this phone charges insanely fast has good battery olus wireless charging creates lots of heat , is super slow and you cant really use it while charging
like the OnePlus open big 📸 doe but idk why ppl like wireless charging gt a p7pro wireless charge it its so slow takes 3hours😅 & OnePlus gives u a charger too👍🏾
No matter who makes a phone priced at more than £1000 i would want more than a one or two year guarantee and warranty as no phone is worth that much money at the end of the day its just a phone
I think Oneplus didn't add wireless charging because in general it's still slow...just look at Samsung...better to plug the phone into a wall for less than an hour at a higher charging wattage than wait "an eternity" for wireless charging to complete.
Well I think you are missing the point. Wireless charging is not about charging fast, but charging smart. Charging regularly, leaving the smartphone on its base.
@@gigamoment Point wasn't missed just isn't as important of a feature to someone who spends more time on a plane and hotel rooms than someone who is always at home or office.
@@powerfuldreams No, if you are home of at the office, wireless charging is GOLD. You can always leave the phone on the pad wherever you don't use it and you will always have battery
I pre-ordered this and I got this 200 ( I am from Canada and it's 300CAD ) without trade-in. Offer was like 200 guaranteed off and also trade-in up to 1000. So it got confused it seems. Also got a OnePlus buds pro 2 with preirder
When i looked at the offer. It showed that it was $200 off the top with a trade in. When i checked out it was $1499.99 - $ 800 for my fold 4 1TB. So 699.99. so $1000 off the original price.
No trade-in offer in Europe. The optics of this are awful since they made a big deal of saying that they would accept any phone for a trade-in discount... depending on where you live. Also, no colour selection in Europe. Disappointing.
To me wireless charging isnt a big deal to me since im mostly plugin in my phones plus if you want that feature skip this phones since mostly seeing people whining of not having wireless charging etc Plus got mine for 1458$ 😂
Been using Samsung z Fold 5 for near 2 months now and I am absolutely not switching Reason is not just the specs It's the software Samsung has mastered the fold software by making it most compatible with almost all apps Secondly I've dropped my fold 5 at least 3 times now with the hinge receiving some scuff marks yet the phone's working perfectly To trust one plus with this kind of durability Well I have my doubts
@Julian-mr5bx as i said Z fold 5 has its issues But to trust any other company with £1500 here in the UK is a no no for me Z fold 5 comes with full theft and loss insurance policy on my carrier. But anyway One plus open looks like a very good phone
If you trade in an iPhone Pro Max it is a $1070 trade in value. That had me REALLY tempted. Since I paid $1099 for it. But I really love my Apple Watch...so i got locked in....damn you apple!!!
he is wrong about the cameras. He seems to like the colors, contrast and exposure of pixel phones. if i had to bet he dailies a pixel or an iphone. this doesn't mean any pf these phones are bad but it means as a cosumer you have to know how implicit bias works. I could be wrong about the reviewers perspective but all the folding phones available in the us have good cameras but only the pixel and the oneplus have flagship cameras.
I used my open for 10 days...sent it back. Its a really good phone and has some big advantages of my fold 5 but 5g was tricky to get working on it, the camers bump is really annoying...way to bug and i still want a bigger outer display. Going to give the mix fold 3 a try hopefully the chinese rom doesnt cause me too many issues
Honestly, this OnePlus Open / Oppo Find N3 doesn't impress me, the only foldable that for me is really better than the Fold 5 in terms of hardware and design is the Huawei Mate X3, but Samsung still has the advantage of software. The only positive thing I see in this OnePlus Open / Oppo Find N3 is the competition it brings to the foldable market outside of China, competition that can only be beneficial for us consumers.
Wireless charging is the most over-hyped feature of mobile devices.. charging spread is slower and completely useless. It's so much easier to use the phone while charging with wired.. wireless charging is not even wireless tbh.. only thing is wire is not connected to the phone..
I'm waiting for the prices to come down even further we are in the first couple 6 years life cycles of foldables, I'm basing this on Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5, and the prices are still too high, Apple has not jumped on the bandwagon if iPhone Fold and I don't think they will, the next iPhone 16 could be there last before they shift there focus on folding iPad screens, Oppo Fold is a nice new edition to the foldable or flip market, it expands the market in general and gives the people more options but the price is too high and very expensive, the carriers may tie the phone to a bundle on monthly payments, but I don't want to be tied to a carrier it will tripper the cost with the bill. For the time being it is a nice expensive edition welcome to club fold Oppo.
I still feel Samsung foldable is way ahead with its software, stylus support and Dex. If only Samsung embraces this form factor with Z fold 6, I will be all over it. 😁
Samsung refuses to fix the design shortcomings on the fold I gave up waiting this will probably be my next foldable...they do need a Dex competitor because I use Dex a lot
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Hi Psycho, I got this definition from Google "The form factor of a mobile phone is its size, shape, and style, as well as the layout and position of its major components."
I'm not that power user to need 2 phone in one. I do need a small phone that turns into a nice looking one. Would be sweet for oneplus to enter the flip phone market.
This phone has a MAJOR shortcoming / problem - NO WIRELESS charging - I recommend a TOTAL PASS ON THIS PRODUCT !! Come on OnePlus it is 2023 not 1998 !!
Waiting for water resistance to arrive , for a more mature and unified android foldable OS, for app optimization on foldable devices, for prices to come down, or till Apple releases a better pencil with rubbery nip and a foldable of their own. Till their mid tier Samsung Note devices.
@@sicfxmusic Samsung fans bragging about their 100 times zoom nonsense so I thought I would mention that the OnePlus goes up to 125 times so is better than the best Samsung can make. And Samsung is discontinuing the 10 times zoom next year due to poor low light and video quality.
No it doesn't . In what ways does the pixel fold win ? The cameras are comparable,this has specs that are probably twice as powerful as the mid range stuff inside the pixel , this charges faster better battery, better multitasking higher res brighter displays . The fold 5 has a better chance at going head to head the pixel fold is terrible only super die hard pixel fans try to justify it
@@gcforreal form factor. it’s really that simple. i don’t care about specs almost everything is good and the galaxy will always have the upper hand when it comes to software
I have noticed that this phone has no tent or flex mode like the pixel fold or Galaxy fold, that also is a deal breaker especially for this device to be touted as one of the better foldable devices yet not one UA-camr is calling this feature out. Not cool.
Why? It is worse on the battery and it charges so fast you don't need it. Wireless charging is so inefficient and if it not the QI2 standard than it is trash.
@@doomy_doomy2225 wireless charging is a definite need sometimes, I had my charging port quit on my device once before and you know what got me through until I got that fixed... You guessed it " wireless charging" saved the day and week for me until I got it fixed.
There's certainly a big disadvantage when considering this phone for purchase considering such heavy price. What are your views on this? 1. Very very poor touch response rate - Oneplus 11 5G has upto 1000Hz touch response rate; Oneplus Open has only upto 240Hz 2. Low Resolution than Oneplus 11 5G - Oneplus 11 5G has 3216*1440 (QHD+), 525 ppi; Oneplus Open has 2440*2268 (2K), 426 ppi
Nobody cares the phone has the best specs for a foldable and looks great the numbers you're throwing around don't mean much and honestly foldables will probably always cost more than normal phones no point in bringing them up
@@gcforreal let's see how the users respond over the next few months. And maybe to you it might not matter, but to the tech guys every discrepancy does. 😄
@@PSYCHOV3N0M oh the dummy that thought for galaxy meant more than a slight overclock 😂...but the way the specs he mentioned are also better than the fold 5 here .... 😂 Especially about the display res which I pointed out in my other comment but you tried to ignore 😂
Those touch responses are only numbers. Samsung phones have amazing touch response and it s standard. You will also find the touch responses will only ever be high numbers for Gaming
This article doesn’t mention that OnePlus is owned by a business in a brutal murderous dictatorship whereas Samsung is based in a democracy. These things too are important to buyers.
I don't think anybody cares you're getting dangerously close to bringing politics inside of discussing mobile phones ..most people just want a good and well priced product not a history lesson in politics here
Your "democracy" is ripping you off by offering the same outdated design year after year for the sake of corporate profits. So you go ahead, get ripped off and feel good about it.
Here i was thinking $800 😅hell no $1,700 for a oneplus 😅😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️& they are not giving people everything like no wireless charging 😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Samsung is King 🤴 of foldable..💪🏼💯✌🏻
$100 less than the Fold 5 is absolutely not a significant price point. The price even with various discounts is not compelling. While it has a better display and form factor, the lack of wireless charging will likely steer buyers away. OnePlus had a chance to kill the Fold 5, but my thinking that $1400 would have done the trick was obviously deluded. I will stick with my Fold 5 and Mate 20X.
Wireless charging is not nearly as important to most people as you seem to think it is. The main reason people buy a Fold 5 over an Open is brand recognition and brand loyalty. Samsung is just simply way more popular among Android users.
I know no one who uses wireless charging. A small niche vocal wireless charging fan club keeps pronouncing this as important, but is misleading. I saw a Twitter poll and over 80% would prefer superfast charging over wireless charging if they could only have one, and OnePlus does the crowd-pleasing solution.
Correction at 2:57. Both the Pixel Fold and Z Fold 5 are IPX8 and not IP68 rating. Neither has a dust rating
Still don't understand everyone's obsession with wireless charging. I rarely use it on my iPhone let alone any other device I own
Use it or not the price is too high not to include it. At the end of the day consumers lose
So?
Majority of us use wireless charging daily
@@n1kunj that's a subjective opinion just like mine is
Yes if they reduced the price then this would have been a Banger.
@@rdjfan3963 I mean I got mine for under $500 sooooo.
Holy!... That's the first time I've seen the camera bump at that angle and that thing is HUGE!
That’s what she said.
It's the ONLY thing stopping me getting this... Those canvas multitasking features are genius and this is the most compelling foldable yet but I just can't with that camera bump... Its like the ugly camera bump on those Xiaomi Pro or Ultimate devices from a few years back... It's not looking great for the OP12 either which seems to have the same camera design 🤦
@rm8385 if you plan on putting a case with a ring or a pop socket, doesn't that even itself out? Unless if you really want to go caseless then yeah.
The camera bump is really a non issue, I'm holding it right now
I've seen several review for this phone, where many are showing mostly only the pros & spotless reviews. I like your review because it show both spectrums of pros and cons; so far I only saw a small number reviewer that does this. Regardless that overall could be more on the pros, it is good to hear complete set of information. Thanks for being informative on the subject.
Does it have display out over usb-c?
Yes
@@dubswagen Cool because pixels don't.
The pixel doesn't stop at 178. So tired of hearing that crap. It open all the way just fine. Did that the first few hours maybe. It opens flat. Period. This phone looks awesome but even better the software looks miles better than my pixel fold. Oneplus right now will give me 1299 for my iPhone 14 Pro Max trading. I can get the fold for $579 and they are throwing in a pair of wireless headphones. That's a fantastic deal.
One+ website offering up to $1200 off $1699 sale price. Trade in required. There is a check box to obtain discounts. $200 is instant discount for everyone. $1000 appears to be trade in value for your present phone. I thought the website confusing to be honest. Pair of ear buds are free to everyone who pre-orders the phone. It's a no brainer.
software support and phsycal support (where can i get it fixed ) if the z-fold 6 is a larger front display ill wait for it .. what i really want is a note ultra size foldable . then ill be happy !
No WideVine L1 support?
I don’t use wireless charging because causes the phone to get hot and it seems to degrade the battery. I like oneplus’s decision to omit it. Being lighter and thinner is worth it.
That's actually false. Wireless charging doesn't affect the battery lifespan at all
@@gigamoment Of course it does.
@@Norbitek25 get your facts right. There are scientific investigations on this. The outcome was it doesn't matter if it is wireless or wired. It's the same for the battery.
@@gigamoment Yes? Tell that to my iPhone battery, fukked by wireless charging.
@@Norbitek25 That's an assumption you made up by yourself. I can assure you it's not from the wireless charging. Please search and read about lithium batteries and charging/wireless charging. And I do not mean articles from stupid websites. I mean research articles from real scientists.
Personally for the night mode feature, i much prefer Oneplus' approach than many others. It looks just how it should look like during night time, preserving the look of the night rather than trying to brighten every single shadow and dark spot in the picture. In the samsung photo, back then its superb, but as many competitors are experimenting with their own approach, i like it less now. Its too processed and artificial with the blueish hazy center, overexposed light sources, as far as I can see. Noise and sharpness those ones I can't really tell for now i think i need to see them in front of me then I can provide an opinion. But looking at the photo overall, the Oneplus night picture is more well balanced and much more pleasing to the eye as they preserved the night look, while samsung is just trying too hard i think.
Pixel's photos come close, but i may need more pics to compare.
I don’t need wireless charging, the oneplus is the best phone rn that’s why I switch from my boring iPhone to one +
it's the real flagship killer. consider how expansive the flagship price now. if I'm paying 1200usd for a iphone 15 pro max, may as well pay 300 more for the Oneplus Open. or actually in my region (asia) Oppo will be selling at similar price as ip15pro max.
as the wireless charge thing, I think it's a outdated technology and cutting it is the right practical choice. When 25W is considered "fast" charging, when 3500mAh is considered "large" battery, 10w or 20w wireless charging are a thing. I think Xiaomi/Huawei have developed a super fast 50w wireless charging and the charger need cooling with fan. That's exactly how stupid wireless charging become stupid or impractical.
Damn, now China is having all the good stuff... This and the Honor Magic v2. We're really closing ourselves to China.
Don't. Unless you like Marxism
If you were alive during the 70s and before. The western governments were saying the same things about Japanese products.
Roll back a hundred years before. And people were saying Swiss products were inferior
@@gold6813 That doesn't make sense as Japan was one of America's strongest allies after WW2. Also, Japan was never cheap labor like China is.
@@bullyboy131 it’s a shame that you may not have anyone around during those times to confirm
@@gold6813 I grew up in Hawaii and had a lot of Japanese friends. Maybe just where you grew up.
Is someone really need a wireless fast charging? I never use it on any phone. The last phone I use on Note 5 fast charging and it was too slow and everybody knows the wire is faster. Anyways, it don't matters if they fix the speed on wireless charging. The wire is still faster and for me I trade my fold 4 and I got an extra bonus $200 plus $200. Something else I forgot they gave me so I'm only paying $258 from my pocket so I'm getting a great deal tire of the Samsung small screen and I got at least at least I'm getting my trading good deal with them. They giving me the 1200 and a half for my phone when most places they give you only $1,000 and if somebody want to sell it to someone then go ahead. You can sell at least 1500 maxima. Nobody spending $2,000 in their pockets
The only negative point is repairs. I'm from Portugal, we don't have OnePlus here and the closest authorized repairer is in Spain. Since it is impossible to open the smartphone without having to damage the carbon part that supports the internal screen, having an authorized repair is mandatory, at least in my opinion
Havent finished it yet but i can already smell the wireless charging gripe.
funny that you mentioned pixel fold, because I did went to 2 different stores, including a Samsung store to test fold 6. I have a Note 8 that is 7 y.o. and I want to upgrade. To my surprise and amusement of everyone around me, Fold 6 does slightly worse picture then Note 8 on the main camera. Same lighting, same distance, same everything. I even cleaned the lens on fold. 7 years of development and 2000Euro in price just to downgrade? Some in dept test put one plus open camera very close to iphone 15 pro max, and you say is about the same as the fold. something does not add up here.
How desired is wireless charging? Be curious how may users would rank it as a must have feature and of those, how many honestly only use wireless charging daily. The SuperVOC (etc) rates are so much better and often seem to result in less heat in the device when charging.
Why don't you change the desktop icons to round ones?
one plus is the best of the 3 at the moment i love the natral photos ... looses on the night photos to the z-fold. camera bump is big but i dont care about that . not a fan of time gated softwae updates ( only get updates for 2 years ) thats gotta go for a 1.700 dollar device
Oneplus have taken a third generation phone from their sister company and made it their own and as such I would hope that the lack of development cost would have reflected in the price and it doesn't.
Why would they sell it any less than their sister company? It's probably a mutually agreed price since the oppo find n3 will be pretty much identical.
While I think and was hoping the phone would be 1400-1500$ before discounts it's still the cheapest foldable in North America and the most powerful
"Most powerful."
It has a slower 8 Gen 2 than what the Z Fold 5 has.
More RAM is just for running more apps simultaneously. More storage is just more storage.
It's definitely NOT the most powerful. 🤣🤣🤣
@@PSYCHOV3N0M you do realize the for galaxy in the gen 2 for the fold is literally the same CPU but ever slightly overclocked 🤣...also if my phone or computer can comfortably run 8 apps while yours can't that means more RAM/ Processing capabilities 😂, also you forgot to mention it's crease is way less noticable , both displays are both brighter and higher ppi than the fold 5 , the phone is definitely more powerful you're just making excuses because you already blindly gave Samsung your paycheck 😂..I'm waiting for u reply with YOU don't need all that and this doesn't matter lol point is the phone is more powerful 😂
2 physical sim cards?
Wireless charging is honestly pointless. I've never used it, and its really just inconvenient and slower.
I feel like wireless charging is just something tech reviewers like, and real world users dont care.
Samsung started it everyone follows
Samsung did not start it. It was royal.
Samsung has the track record for foldable durability at this point. Spending this much on a fold? You want the best.
If i get a Samsung fold5 256g for $1200 usd vs the oneplus open for $1624 usd. Which is a better choice ?
the one plus is 1499 plus you can trade in a phone on top of that as long as its on their list. You get 200 off, off the top without even needing to trade in a junk phone.
I haven't pulled the trigger yet but I had it figured out to be 1239+ tax in my cart after I trade in my iphone 12
I would never buy a used foldable. I have bought many used and refurbished phones, but the folding screen is such a variable. You don't know what's been done to that phone before.
@@donatebeerhereThat's what buying CERTIFIED refurbished from Amazon is for.
Never had a problem with the screen quality from any refurbished phone I purchased from Amazon directly.
Same. I would never by a used foldable. And that brings us to phone insurance. If I have to get my fold replaced for some reason through the phone insurance program, no doubt they will send a refurbished one, they are just as bad as a used phone.
If I could buy this with a camera which is even with the back (let's be honest the results to a old pixel cam were not worth the disgusting bulk) I would consider it despite the price.
But I do not spend almost 2k on something that feels "not finished".
@Engadget This is the design I want Samsung to reference in regards to the Galaxy Z Fold6.
No thanks, Many of us who own the Fold love the one handed ease of use for the outer display.
@@peacelove8395 I own two Galaxy Folds and love both. But It wouldn't hurt to have a larger cover window. And a larger inner screen.
@@peacelove8395you're in the minority the biggest complaint or barrier to entry on the fold is most people hate the skinny awkward cover display justify it all you want but most people don't care for it
Even though this is very tempting as a long time OnePlus user, i just can't with their poor update history. I have used OnePlus 2 to 7 and I'm just absolutely done with their slow software updates 🤷🏽♂️
u can always get oppo find n3.. it's the same phone but diff os
@@R0TBbut do they update faster and less buggy when in the end it's under the same umbrella as oneplus.
@R0TB its the same software
@helterskelzer3883 they only share the same features but the way they utilized it is different.
@hwon_oxo no its the same
Did anybody notice he's watching a video about the new patch? Either Hera or Spirit of the Law!
Are you able to compare it to the Honor Magic V2? Software questions aside, it looks even better. The OnePlus is much thicker. Thanks.
Wireless charging isnt thay big a deal..this phone charges insanely fast has good battery olus wireless charging creates lots of heat , is super slow and you cant really use it while charging
like the OnePlus open big 📸 doe but idk why ppl like wireless charging gt a p7pro wireless charge it its so slow takes 3hours😅 & OnePlus gives u a charger too👍🏾
No matter who makes a phone priced at more than £1000 i would want more than a one or two year guarantee and warranty as no phone is worth that much money at the end of the day its just a phone
I think Oneplus didn't add wireless charging because in general it's still slow...just look at Samsung...better to plug the phone into a wall for less than an hour at a higher charging wattage than wait "an eternity" for wireless charging to complete.
Prizes are way too high at the moment.
I couldn't care less about wireless charging! Never use it anyways on any phone. Would like super fast charging and I get that.
Well I think you are missing the point. Wireless charging is not about charging fast, but charging smart. Charging regularly, leaving the smartphone on its base.
@@gigamoment Point wasn't missed just isn't as important of a feature to someone who spends more time on a plane and hotel rooms than someone who is always at home or office.
@@powerfuldreams No, if you are home of at the office, wireless charging is GOLD. You can always leave the phone on the pad wherever you don't use it and you will always have battery
I pre-ordered this and I got this 200 ( I am from Canada and it's 300CAD ) without trade-in. Offer was like 200 guaranteed off and also trade-in up to 1000. So it got confused it seems. Also got a OnePlus buds pro 2 with preirder
I was confused if you can trade in and use the voucher together. 🤔
When i looked at the offer. It showed that it was $200 off the top with a trade in. When i checked out it was $1499.99 - $ 800 for my fold 4 1TB. So 699.99. so $1000 off the original price.
@@jessewarren9177You got a sweet deal.
Anyone in Toronto want to show me this in person?
No trade-in offer in Europe. The optics of this are awful since they made a big deal of saying that they would accept any phone for a trade-in discount... depending on where you live. Also, no colour selection in Europe. Disappointing.
Its not even comming to Norway this year.Disapointing
To me wireless charging isnt a big deal to me since im mostly plugin in my phones plus if you want that feature skip this phones since mostly seeing people whining of not having wireless charging etc
Plus got mine for 1458$ 😂
That camera is absurd. It's not thin if you have a huge tumor on the back that takes up half the phone.
Been using Samsung z Fold 5 for near 2 months now and I am absolutely not switching
Reason is not just the specs
It's the software
Samsung has mastered the fold software by making it most compatible with almost all apps
Secondly
I've dropped my fold 5 at least 3 times now with the hinge receiving some scuff marks yet the phone's working perfectly
To trust one plus with this kind of durability
Well
I have my doubts
okay fair point, but that outer display is just too skinny..
You get used it.
@Julian-mr5bx as i said
Z fold 5 has its issues
But to trust any other company with £1500 here in the UK is a no no for me
Z fold 5 comes with full theft and loss insurance policy on my carrier.
But anyway One plus open looks like a very good phone
I like everything about the way this phone looks but i have seen a bunch of these that are already ruined, how is oneplus customer service?
If you trade in an iPhone Pro Max it is a $1070 trade in value. That had me REALLY tempted. Since I paid $1099 for it. But I really love my Apple Watch...so i got locked in....damn you apple!!!
he is wrong about the cameras. He seems to like the colors, contrast and exposure of pixel phones. if i had to bet he dailies a pixel or an iphone. this doesn't mean any pf these phones are bad but it means as a cosumer you have to know how implicit bias works. I could be wrong about the reviewers perspective but all the folding phones available in the us have good cameras but only the pixel and the oneplus have flagship cameras.
wish it had pen support
I used my open for 10 days...sent it back. Its a really good phone and has some big advantages of my fold 5 but 5g was tricky to get working on it, the camers bump is really annoying...way to bug and i still want a bigger outer display. Going to give the mix fold 3 a try hopefully the chinese rom doesnt cause me too many issues
Check out the Honor Magic V2
Got mine for $640 with trade in
The camera bump looks ugly 🤧
It actually looks good
Samsung's foldable monopoly challenged by pixel fold? ... evidence of the US phone market having almost zero diversity.
Great, no stylus 🤔😢?
Love love. ❤❤❤
It's not any phone for the trade-in in Canada.
One plus first fold phone broo stop misleading 😂 it's oppo find n3 rebranded
Everything is better until it's not. Time will tell.
I’m waiting for Apple.
Yeah, I said it. Come at me.
Honestly, this OnePlus Open / Oppo Find N3 doesn't impress me, the only foldable that for me is really better than the Fold 5 in terms of hardware and design is the Huawei Mate X3, but Samsung still has the advantage of software.
The only positive thing I see in this OnePlus Open / Oppo Find N3 is the competition it brings to the foldable market outside of China, competition that can only be beneficial for us consumers.
One UI stinks.
Wireless charging is the most over-hyped feature of mobile devices.. charging spread is slower and completely useless. It's so much easier to use the phone while charging with wired.. wireless charging is not even wireless tbh.. only thing is wire is not connected to the phone..
Don’t know why OnePlus has no love for wireless charging….
Because their wired charging is so fast.
Why will anyone buy this if OnePlus themselves degrade the concept of fold by introducing OnePlus Nord Open at 3 times lower price in a year.
1500$ for this!? For Oneplus devices!?
I'm waiting for the prices to come down even further we are in the first couple 6 years life cycles of foldables, I'm basing this on Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5, and the prices are still too high, Apple has not jumped on the bandwagon if iPhone Fold and I don't think they will, the next iPhone 16 could be there last before they shift there focus on folding iPad screens, Oppo Fold is a nice new edition to the foldable or flip market, it expands the market in general and gives the people more options but the price is too high and very expensive, the carriers may tie the phone to a bundle on monthly payments, but I don't want to be tied to a carrier it will tripper the cost with the bill.
For the time being it is a nice expensive edition welcome to club fold Oppo.
its so much bigger than the Oppo Find N... 😓 and it looks like we might have lost the stylus too
My next phone 💚
I still feel Samsung foldable is way ahead with its software, stylus support and Dex. If only Samsung embraces this form factor with Z fold 6, I will be all over it. 😁
Agreed, but the form factor is subjective.
Samsung refuses to fix the design shortcomings on the fold I gave up waiting this will probably be my next foldable...they do need a Dex competitor because I use Dex a lot
Form factor = it being a foldable phone.
What you're talking about is called ASPECT RATIO.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Hi Psycho, I got this definition from Google "The form factor of a mobile phone is its size, shape, and style, as well as the layout and position of its major components."
I really hope to design the z fold 6 like this premium. With DeX and wireless charging it will be a killer
If it was 1200...this would fly off the shelves
untill we see POCO/nord/samsung a foldable for around 700$ they will get no traction.
Wish I could afford it, are you planning on a give away. 😢😅❤
Make sure you add the $329 for insurance because these phones are delicate.
In Canada you can't even add warranty to oneplus phoens anymore lol
I'm proud to be a One Plus Open Ho😂😂😂😂😂
I'm not that power user to need 2 phone in one. I do need a small phone that turns into a nice looking one. Would be sweet for oneplus to enter the flip phone market.
This phone has a MAJOR shortcoming / problem - NO WIRELESS charging - I recommend a TOTAL PASS ON THIS PRODUCT !! Come on OnePlus it is 2023 not 1998 !!
Waiting for water resistance to arrive , for a more mature and unified android foldable OS, for app optimization on foldable devices, for prices to come down, or till Apple releases a better pencil with rubbery nip and a foldable of their own. Till their mid tier Samsung Note devices.
Price is too high
Cameras are boring, give me telescope.
It goes up to 125X zoom so not sure what you want?
@@andyH_England Are you from the OnePlus marketing team?
@@sicfxmusic Samsung fans bragging about their 100 times zoom nonsense so I thought I would mention that the OnePlus goes up to 125 times so is better than the best Samsung can make. And Samsung is discontinuing the 10 times zoom next year due to poor low light and video quality.
@@andyH_England Wow a toxic OnePlus fan on the loose! Buddy you're answering questions that no one asked. 🤦♂🤦♂
To me the only disappointment in this phone is the lack of wireless charging. Other than that this phone is awesome 💯
Nope you can't trade in the Samsung Z Fold 5.
@@Fricc-sg4np what
I'm spoiled... No wireless charging means a no buy for me!
This a CPP phone? No thanks.
Google Pixel still takes the cake, the Pixel Fold 2 will be an upgrade
No it doesn't . In what ways does the pixel fold win ? The cameras are comparable,this has specs that are probably twice as powerful as the mid range stuff inside the pixel , this charges faster better battery, better multitasking higher res brighter displays . The fold 5 has a better chance at going head to head the pixel fold is terrible only super die hard pixel fans try to justify it
@@gcforreal form factor. it’s really that simple. i don’t care about specs almost everything is good and the galaxy will always have the upper hand when it comes to software
Pixel fold is a terrible device
The phone would be perfect if it had pen support
gorrilla glass ?
I know Oneplus devices charge really fast but if I’m gonna spend $1500 on a device I’m gonna need wireless charging Oneplus.
I can do without workers charging, but no support on stylus is a big no no
I have noticed that this phone has no tent or flex mode like the pixel fold or Galaxy fold, that also is a deal breaker especially for this device to be touted as one of the better foldable devices yet not one UA-camr is calling this feature out. Not cool.
Why? It is worse on the battery and it charges so fast you don't need it. Wireless charging is so inefficient and if it not the QI2 standard than it is trash.
@@doomy_doomy2225 wireless charging is a definite need sometimes, I had my charging port quit on my device once before and you know what got me through until I got that fixed... You guessed it " wireless charging" saved the day and week for me until I got it fixed.
You know wireless charging degrades the battery faster than wired will ever
ColorOS better than oxygenos because of customization no cap
It's the same
There's certainly a big disadvantage when considering this phone for purchase considering such heavy price. What are your views on this?
1. Very very poor touch response rate - Oneplus 11 5G has upto 1000Hz touch response rate; Oneplus Open has only upto 240Hz
2. Low Resolution than Oneplus 11 5G - Oneplus 11 5G has 3216*1440 (QHD+), 525 ppi; Oneplus Open has 2440*2268 (2K), 426 ppi
Nobody cares the phone has the best specs for a foldable and looks great the numbers you're throwing around don't mean much and honestly foldables will probably always cost more than normal phones no point in bringing them up
@@gcforreal let's see how the users respond over the next few months. And maybe to you it might not matter, but to the tech guys every discrepancy does. 😄
@@gcforrealTell me you're not a tech enthusiast without telling me you're not a tech enthusiast.
🤣🤣🤣
@@PSYCHOV3N0M oh the dummy that thought for galaxy meant more than a slight overclock 😂...but the way the specs he mentioned are also better than the fold 5 here .... 😂 Especially about the display res which I pointed out in my other comment but you tried to ignore 😂
Those touch responses are only numbers. Samsung phones have amazing touch response and it s standard. You will also find the touch responses will only ever be high numbers for Gaming
Oneplus did nothing its an oppo phone
This article doesn’t mention that OnePlus is owned by a business in a brutal murderous dictatorship whereas Samsung is based in a democracy. These things too are important to buyers.
I support Oppo. I'll gladly contribute to the company under a dictatorship. I don't care if they have my info I got nothing to hide anyway.
I don't think anybody cares you're getting dangerously close to bringing politics inside of discussing mobile phones ..most people just want a good and well priced product not a history lesson in politics here
Your "democracy" is ripping you off by offering the same outdated design year after year for the sake of corporate profits. So you go ahead, get ripped off and feel good about it.
Here i was thinking $800 😅hell no $1,700 for a oneplus 😅😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️& they are not giving people everything like no wireless charging 😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Samsung is King 🤴 of foldable..💪🏼💯✌🏻
I think u dont get it foldable phones is a new tech and it costs money
$100 less than the Fold 5 is absolutely not a significant price point. The price even with various discounts is not compelling. While it has a better display and form factor, the lack of wireless charging will likely steer buyers away. OnePlus had a chance to kill the Fold 5, but my thinking that $1400 would have done the trick was obviously deluded. I will stick with my Fold 5 and Mate 20X.
Wireless charging is not nearly as important to most people as you seem to think it is.
The main reason people buy a Fold 5 over an Open is brand recognition and brand loyalty. Samsung is just simply way more popular among Android users.
Nobody cares about wireless charging.
I know no one who uses wireless charging. A small niche vocal wireless charging fan club keeps pronouncing this as important, but is misleading. I saw a Twitter poll and over 80% would prefer superfast charging over wireless charging if they could only have one, and OnePlus does the crowd-pleasing solution.
Don't need wireless charging when it charges super fast in 40 mins.