The Sign of Circumcision and Baptism: Colossians

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  • Опубліковано 3 сер 2023
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    Teacher: John Piper
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  • @PaulLee-rs8uw
    @PaulLee-rs8uw 11 місяців тому +3

    And Romans 8:28😊❤. Praise to the Lord( Jesus) and thank you pastor John for sharing Colossians 2:11-12
    Philippians 4:4-7😊❤.
    Fellowship with other couples today later in Christ 😊❤

    • @PaulLee-rs8uw
      @PaulLee-rs8uw 11 місяців тому

      1 Peter 5:12-14(Final greetings 😊❤)
      "12 With the help of Silas😊❤ whom I( Paul in Christ) regard as a faithful😊❤ brother❤😊, I have written❤
      to you(❤😊😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤) briefly,
      encouraging❤😊 you(😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤)
      and testifying❤
      that this is the true grace😊❤ of God( 😊100%❤ in Christ).
      Stand ❤fast😊❤ in it.
      13 She who is Babylon, chosen together with you❤,
      sends ❤ you(😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤ in Christ) her greetings( plural " greetings"😊❤)
      and
      does my son Mark( 😊❤).
      14 Greet ❤😊
      one anothers with a kiss of love😊❤.
      Peace😊❤ to all( 😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤) of you❤ who are in Christ( Jesus😊1st❤)."( 1 Peter 5:12-❤14 Zondervan NIV Study Bible. All parenthesis parts and symbols in Christ also in and for Christ( Jesus😊1st❤) too. Are you today in Christ( Jesus😊1st❤) too? If you(😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤)then these message is for you❤ too in Christ( Messiah= Jesus= our Lord( Jesus😊1st❤) and our savior( Jesus😊1st❤) and our peacemaker( Jesus😊1st❤) too) in Jesus'name, i pray for others' healing. By faith( Hebrews 11:1-40😊❤). I pray in Jesus' Name. In Jesus'name, i pray( James 5:14-15😊❤, Romans 8:28😊❤). Amen.

    • @PaulLee-rs8uw
      @PaulLee-rs8uw 11 місяців тому +1

      John 14:6
      "6 Jesus(😊1st❤) answered,
      " I am
      the way( Jesus 😊1st❤)
      and
      the truth( Jesus😊1st❤)
      and
      the life( Jesus😊1st❤.
      No one comes to the Father( God(😊100%❤), our Father in heaven)
      except through me."( John 14:6😊❤ Zondervan NIV Study Bible)

  • @pennymchugh3146
    @pennymchugh3146 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you, John Piper!

  • @scrutanise
    @scrutanise 11 місяців тому +4

    Beautifully explained

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 6 місяців тому

    may our inner most being Lord long for You! no ritual makes us Yours only our hearts willing to yield to You!

  • @DCFNETWORKS
    @DCFNETWORKS 11 місяців тому +4

    Thank you

  • @randatatang9222
    @randatatang9222 5 місяців тому

    Well explained pastor John but doesn't "through faith" imply that faith precedes regeneration?

  • @ryandawson2877
    @ryandawson2877 Місяць тому

    If the word signify, negates, actual reality, then I don’t believe that’s correct. Without hands definitely means that God is doing it, but I do believe that he does it through baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. We die with him, we are buried with him, and we rise with him through faith. I have noticed that so many times, people use Romans six and Colossians two and other scriptures, talking about baptism, and they always want to say that it “signifies “represents, “is saying that “, etc., rather than believing that it actually is doing something And not just representing something. I do believe that when people, repent and believe on Christ, they are reckoned or declared, righteous by the imputation of the righteousness of Christ according to Romans chapters 3 and four, but I also believe that baptism is part of the package because of what it says in Romans 6-3:6, Galatians 3:27, Colossians 2-11:12, one Peter, 3-20 21. I believe that act 2:38 is the full New Testament apostolic salvific package. I believe that so many repentant believers have struggles in their life so much because they have not been through the water and the spirit as in Exodus 12. The blood has been applied to the door post, but until they go through the cloud and the sea, the Egyptians will keep messing with them, but when they go through the cloud and the sea, the Egyptians were drowned in the sea. I believe baptism is a whole lot more important than a lot of Baptist. Want to give credit for. I agree with Baptist that we are reckon righteousness at the point of faith/repentance, but I believe a lot like the apostolic do when it comes to the fact that when we are baptized Into the Lord Jesus Christ, and filled with his spirit with him working, even through our mouths where we speak in the language, we have never learned, yielding our mouth totally to the Holy Spirit, we plunge in the areas that we have never access before, act 2:38, 8-12:16, 10-44:48, 19-1: 6, one Corinthians 6:11, Titus 3:5 Hebrews 6-13, etc. Ism is not just symbolic. Great stuff though, and not trying to be overly critical, but having a Baptist background, growing up, I never heard a sermon on act 2:38. My observation is that if you only have one or two of the four elements, repentance, faith, baptism, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the infilling of the Holy Spirit, you only have one or two of the four cylinders, and therefore have great difficulty overcoming in areas of life. A great book is “the normal Christian birth “by David Pawson. He was a Methodist and became a Baptist and saw a lot of things in the scripture and has a great Soteriology.

  • @linak7155
    @linak7155 11 місяців тому +4

    The Father uses the physical to teach us about the spiritual. As when we are taught, believers are of Abraham's SEED. Gal 3. The concept of the seed is taught throughout Scripture beginning in (Genesis). Circumsicion. Immersion. So many today malign the cutting of the fireskin of baby boys. Many liken it to mutilation. Abraham curcumsiced himself at 99 years old. The circumsicion is Gods idea, not man's. It is simply a sign of the covenant.
    John Puper lost me when he said, 'No offense, but that's why I'm a Baptist'.' To be baptized is to become immersed in water signifying, putting away the old man n being raised a new man. The Hebrews had a similar practice through the Mikvah. There are still many in the land who do. In any event, I found that curious. John the Baptist. It was not his last name as some surmise, even to this day. It was simply a function.

    • @saintvanguard
      @saintvanguard 11 місяців тому +2

      If I may interject, and speak on behalf of Piper.
      Knowing him well enough through his work, I think that his point was not to claim a title of distinction for the purpose of identity separation. However, but to distinguish his belief of the practice of baptism as a sign of regeneration by people able to exercise the gift of faith. (Believers baptism)

    • @linak7155
      @linak7155 11 місяців тому +2

      @@saintvanguard oh OK! Thank you for your thoughtful response!!

    • @BENJAMINJAMESSMITH2000
      @BENJAMINJAMESSMITH2000 11 місяців тому +1

      Did God create all things?

  • @robertnieten7259
    @robertnieten7259 9 місяців тому +1

    Water baptism is the circumcision without hands because its not the hands putting you under the water that brings about circumcision its the Holy Spirit.
    Under the old covenant the temple was cleansed by water and blood in prapartion for the Spirit of God to enter it.
    However, the blood of bulls and goats was ineffective when dealing with " consciousness of sins" which is guilt.( Heb.10:2)
    As the result, sins were only covered resulting in rhe process having to be repeated. This also resulted in the Spirit of God only dwelling temporarily in the temple.
    The blood of Christ did and can deal with the consciousness of sins through the remission of sins( Acts 2:38).
    During water baptism the Holy Spirit circumcises the conscience, removing the guilt from past sins,and restoring it to its original childlike innocence from wilful sin.
    This is the " washing of regeneration" of Titus 3:5. "Regeneration" defined means to return something to its original state. The original state of our conscience is like a childs', innocent from the guilt from conmitting wilful sin.
    Now the Holy Spirit can abide in the temple of our bodies on a permanent basis.

  • @ryandawson2877
    @ryandawson2877 Місяць тому

    The ritual itself does not cleanse, because repentance and faith must be there, but anyone who knows that they must go through the water, Mark, 16:16, act 2:38, 22:16, Romans 6-3:6, Colossians 2-11:12, Peter 3-20: 21, And will not go through the water, they will not experience the deliverance that they need, and I really doubt that they would be saved. I know that condemnation in Mark 16 is expressly on the unbeliever and not the unbaptized, but whether we like it, or not, Jesus said that whoever is believing, and who has been baptized Will be saved, so we better put the emphasis where it is. People are so afraid of baptismal efficacy or baptismal regeneration, because they think it undermines justification by faith. It does not necessarily do that. Abraham was reckon righteous before and apart from circumcision, but that did not make circumcision unnecessary and when one knows that they must be circumcised/baptized Into Christ, which is to be baptized in his name it must be done. I get the therapy people that do not have the knowledge/the opportunity, but I have known a believers who have put off baptism for years and this is because so many churches have such a low view of baptism, and this symbolic only view, which is absolutely ridiculous, and not what the scripture says. Just because you are reckoned righteousness at repentance and faith, that does not equal all of salvation. There is justification, regeneration, sanctification, and glorification among other things. So baptism into Jesus Christ, cannot be neglected or put off as though baptism means nothing because it does because it is new covenant, spiritual circumcision. You might say that it is the combination of circumcision because I do believe that an inward work is happening, but anyone who refuses to go through God’s prescribed order is not on good ground. Galatians 3:27.

  • @laurenkoronczok
    @laurenkoronczok 11 місяців тому +2

    Semen retention

  • @Presbyterians
    @Presbyterians 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, Mr Piper. I can see why this text would make you a Baptist but I think you rely on it too much. The flow of your argument depends on making the reference to 'baptism' only have a spiritual meaning, but by that logic, the inclusion of it makes no sense! From what I understand you to be saying, if Paul didn't mention the word baptism, nothing would have changed in what he was saying..according to your interpretation. which leads me to think that he meant the physical act. What do you think of that?