Odion had one duel in the series and Marik really went out of his way to ruin it. "- Master Marik, I'm about to win ! I have finally summoned my boss monster, there's nothing Joey can do ! - Use the God Card to convince them you're me. - But Master, they are already convinced and you've given them no reason to suspect you. - Don't care, use it. - But Master, this card has killed every duelist that tried to play it ! It's like playing russian roulette but the gun is fully loaded ! - The Mega Ultra Chicken, Odion ! Use it ! -... I hate my life."
And I'm sorry to say it only got worse for Joey after this. Because he had the hardest time against Valon and Solomon, and got outright destroyed by Zigried.
@@SabeNo-rh7mb I'm still pissed how the Grand Championship arc treated Joey. He went from making Yami Marik have a panic attack to just being some other rich boy's dog
@@zeospark9715 Marik (both versions) was just a bad duelist. Hate to say it, but despite his threat and ominous presence, he would not gotten as nearly as far in that tournament without the god cards or the shadow games. Even *Mai* of all people was giving him trouble before she made the mistake of trying to summon Ra herself. *Worse.* It was Odion who won all the locator cards needed for both him and Marik to even enter the finals. Meaning Marik himself never had to do a thing.
@@sherwood750 "It's Melvin! No doubt he's going to say the most fiendish and heartless thing you've ever heard!" "What a lovely day." "Take that back, you fiend!"
Well for quarter finals, semi finals, and the final duel, but now we can do the preliminaries, like yugi vs the rare hunter, or arcana, or strings, you get the idea
Odion deserves some respect: he didn't rely on Shadow Games nor used Millenium items like Marik and Ishizu, he played fair and square just like any regular duelist and he could have the won if he didn't played the fake Winged Dragon of Ra. Also he won 12 locator for him and Marik which is also impressive.
Reading through the manga, Odion's field spell apparently lets HIM place 2 trap cards down at once. So apparently a rule in Battle City is only putting down a single set card at a time. His temple is also a continuous spell card, not a field spell card. On his first turn, he summons Gearfried, Panther Warrior...and Landstar. Geez. It is fully stated, even written on the visible card shown, that the Apophis Trap Monsters are summonable after an attack. Fisherman is a 4 star monster in the manga, and because Joey didn't take Insect Queen, he has Jinzo and Fisherman on the field when Odion draws the fake Ra. So instead, he puts down Baby Dragon. Yeah, Selket doesn't ever have its defense displayed in the manga, since it is unnecessary. Oh, and Joey did have a monster in his hand in the manga, but didn't play it due to Selket being too strong. But Odion also gives Joey his respect, which is why Joey calls him out on not being Marik. So Marik orders Odion to prove otherwise by summoning Ra. Yugi already had suspicions that Odion isn't Marik, which he reveals after Joey calls Odion out, and showing a card in the midst of the duel would probably be illegal. So the only way to prove it would be to summon Ra, which Yugi suspected was sealed in the temple. And yeah, Marik says that sealing a card in the temple would protect him from both attacks and magic. So yes, shenanigans at the end, but for Marik, it was entirely justifiable. Only by summoning Ra would Odion dash away any claims that he isn't Marik, and showing the card may reveal it to be a fake, or even illegal during a duel.
yeah NO it wasn't justified for MARIK he could have just told Odion to show he had the Winged Dragon of Ra on the field AFTER the duel was over and tell Joey he chose not to use it in order to not reveal it effects to the rest of the duelist watching the duel
why did odion explicitly play temple in the field slot then? irl it's continuous but that anime duel it's a field. kinda like how magical hats in the anime is a spell, spellbinding circle is one at first but only the one time against kaiba's ghost, negate attack was also a spell early and only settled as a trap by season 4, copycat and time wizard are playable as monsters or spells, and shadow spell is a normal spell. besides temple of the kings the irl card didn't come out until the marik structure deck which came out i think a good couple of years into the gx or 5d's run so it was designed to be a field, but konami when printing it decided temple with its original pre-errata effect wasn't really searchable by terraforming as even back then field spells were just starting to pick up a bit of steam and they sidestepped that issue by saying it's continuous for irl.
Joey won Insect Queen, but never added it to his deck in the manga. That's how it should have been in the anime too. Joey was smart to only add Jinzo and Legendary Fisherman to his deck in the manga.
I'm starting to notice how bad the quarterfinals were in the Battle City Tournament. Yugi vs. Bakura was riddled with misplays and alternate plays that could've ended the duel earlier. The only saving grace was Yugi summoning Silfer the Sky Dragon. Joey vs. Odion was one of the biggest robs, as Odion could've won if he didn't follow Marik's orders. Marik vs. Mai was arguably the best of the four main duels, (Yami Marik vs. Yami Bakura was more or less a bonus duel,) but Mai lost her chance when attempted to use the Winged Dragon of Ra. Kaiba vs. Ishizu was another duel where the opponent was robbed. If Ishizu didn't rely on her Millennium Necklace that predicted a predestined duel, and the Millennium Rod not intervening to help Kaiba win, Ishizu would've. And Yami Marik vs. Yami Bakura was a joke. Bakura got absolutely bodied by Yami Marik. Even with the spirit of Marik helping Bakura defeat his eviler counterpart, he still lost. In fact, with the sole exception of Yami Marik using the effects of the Winged Dragon of Ra, Marik didn't lose any life points during this duel.
If Joey had played with a bit more courage and smarts I don’t think Odion would have stood a chance and he would still advance to the top four. But the other three quarter final matches, if both sides from each played a bit smarter it would still be a question mark.
Wasn’t her deck relying on the Mirror Wall trap back then? And Yugi nearly destroyed himself attacking into it repeatedly. And she used another trap (Shadow of Eyes) to complement mirror wall.
If you look back at the duel, you’ll notice that not ONCE does Odion mention the Shadow Realm, which would both be a giveaway to the characters that he wasn’t Marek, but ALSO a giveaway to the VIEWERS that he wasn’t evil
Why would he mention something that doesn't exist? What gave away Rishid was that he acted honourably and acknowledged Jonouchi as a duelist, which doesn't follow for Marik who previously used manipulation and treated people as disposable pawns.
@@kindlingking Because we grew up with the 4Kids dub. People know that there is no shadow realm, although not always how the Dark Games truly work. The manga isn't appreciated enough. Simple as that.
@@kindlingking Marik treated his Ghouls as pawns if it meant taking Atem down with them for the freedom of his lineage and vengeance against the Pharaoh. And now he's doing the same for his brother and look what happened...
@@mystery8820 not just ghouls, the only person he cares about was Rishid (and maybe Ishizu), and even then he let his hubris get better of him, which almost resulted in his brother's death. Everyone is disposable to him as long as he gets the benefit, which I guess distinguishes him from Dark Marik who's evil just for the hell of it. Doesn't matter what his motivations are thought, even before "going dark" Marik is a scumbag.
15:00 the anime version of Graceful Dice needs a monster with 500 or less attack. But Battle Warrior has 700 with no effects. That's the confusing one.
reason Battle Warrior is still there because it was part of his winning combo against Bonez. There he used Battle Warrior and Sword and Shield to nab him the victory. The irony that Joey had both of these cards during the duel and couldn't pull that combo off again.
that condition makes sense, cuz in the anime, graceful dice multiplies the attack of the pokemon it affects, which is op for cards with more than 500 attack points
It make slightly more sense in the manga where most of his duelists kingdom stuff was level five and higher like tiger axe, yes really, he only had 5 level 4 and under monsters two of which are in his battle city deck. the fact that we only know 9 on the monsters from his manga battle city deck, not including the ones that he won in tournament means he likely didn't have anything else.
In the manga, Battle City rules state that each player may only set 1 Spell and 1 Trap face down per turn, and Temple of the Kings allows the user to set 2 Traps per turn instead, that could be why Odion is only setting 2 of his cards per turn instead of flooding his backrow on his first turn. I’m going to say that the anime works the same way before the Battle City semi finals since nobody does seem to set more than 1 of each type per turn up until the semi finals I believe but I might be wrong.
Considering how Chaotic the activation of all spell, magic and traps can be in one single turn, this restriction doesn't seem like a bad idea right now.
@@viniribr No it doesn't for original YGO, Kaz has already set the rules in stone, you might be mistaken for latter YGO series where it flipped (which Kaz has very little input anyway)
@@viniribr The manga came first for this Yu-Gi-Oh series, so it's an adaptation for it. That's why a lot of people consider Noah's arc, Waking Dragons season and Grand Prix arc as filler because those didn't happen in the manga. They started making anime first and then manga series starting with GX.
I’ll always find Joey’s Foolish Burial + Graverobber = Jinzo play iconic. I will say that I do find it frustating that Joey was dead to rights and had no outs to escape Odion’s direct attack. At least if he did have a way out, I would respect him in this duel more, but Marik really almost destroyed himself by forcing Odion to play fake Ra. I think it could’ve been interesting if Joey had a card that would win him the duel during the last turn, so when Marik commands Odion to play fake Ra, he has a 2nd reason as Ra wouldn’t have been affected by the set card. In this scenario, Odion would be gambling on what the set card is, but as we see, he really didn’t want to play fake Ra. As we see in later Battle City, a similar scenario occurs in Joey vs Marik with plot armor saving Marik there, as it does save Joey here.
I wouldn't call Joey vs Marik plot armour. Shadow Games demonstrated what they can do and thus, did what they were supposed to do: be dangerous for people without Millennium Items. So, shadow games were an already established story mechanic at this moment. It's fair to use, as far as I'm concerned. In terms of story, Joey’s fate was deserved. This duel was far more egregious though, because as you stated, Odion had no reason to play Ra. He could have literally just shown he had the fake Egyptian God card after he won the duel.
Grave robber doesn’t do that. For Joey to have a strong ass card like that is antithetical to his profile. It’s like giving beat cards to your little brother.
@@streetguru9350 I think Joey must’ve gotten rid of them. Kaiba does say in that duel in the sub that cards that deal effect damage are illegal in Battle City. But of course, since Marik has Ra and Kaiba wants it, he doesn’t disqualify Marik for playing burns cards so he can get Ra.
You're acting like that's because of something unforeseen. If old school Yugioh cards all had a search effect, a protection effect, and some special summon effect, duels would have only lasted a few turns back then too. Modern Yugioh is basically like playing a videogame with all the cheats turned on. I remember my friends and I would compete to see who could finish a level in Golden Eye the fastest with infinite ammo health enabled. My point is that anything can take skill. And skill seems to be the only defense people have when I bring up how poorly designed modern Yugioh has become.
To be honest, that's a fair point @@robrick9361 , even if I wasn't intentionally trying to point out poorly designed modern Yugioh. Sorry if my comment came across as such.
23:22 - Counterpoint, had Joey swung with Gearfried and Hayabusa full force at the start of the duel, Odion would’ve been left at 200 LP and would’ve been doomed if Joey ever got another opportunity to swing, period. Which Jinzo absolutely would’ve secured later on.
If Joey attacked with Gearfried, Odion would have chained Embodiment of Apophis and he can put it into DEF, which Joey wouldn't have been able to get over.
So fun fact: In the manga, Jinzo is level 7 instead of level 6, meaning it requires two tributes to summon. So due to its real world version being level 6, several duels in the anime were changed to make Joey’s plays with Jinzo make more sense
I don't know if this was intentional or not by the writers, but I love how Joey's Battle City finals starts with him summoning Gearfried, and ends with him summoning Gearfried again at the end of his duel with Marik
Gear fried I see as a monster that represents Joey, he starts off in the finals as a strong warrior, unsure of himself at first, but he's starting off strong to try and duel yugi in the finals, then against marik he summons gearfried on his final turn, as a true warrior ready to take down his enemy and fight his true opponent, unfortunately the warrior falls in battle, succumbing to his injuries from and intense duel
17:04 - HE THREW, right here. 19:00 - On that note, had Joey conserved his Monster Reborn, he could’ve used (after Shield & Sword) to revive Jinzo, who could overpower Serket even if it had it’s real life base DEF of 2000, allowing Fisherman to swing for game after.
@@roncerjani9063 You don’t have to anticipate a monster coming to not instantly blow a Monster Reborn in the hand. He already had Jinzo on the field against a majority Trap deck. He just had to coast till something took Jinzo out and then bring it back when it was more favorable to do so. Like if the monster that took it out suddenly had its ATK dropped to lower than Jinzo’s base 2400.
@@mayborneflower he wanted to build up and deal a heavy blow all at once. It is a bad play the fact that he didn't calculate for his ace being destroyed, but it's not enough to say he threw. Just a case if overextending, which in hindsight wasn't a good thing to do.
Odion: Serket, Atta- Marik: Use the Fake Ra, Odion! Odion: Master, I'm about to win. Marik: Use Ra or else they'll think you're not me! Odion: Master, how about, and hear me out on this, I defeat him here, show I had Ra and say that there was no need to use it on such a weak duelist. He's literally relying on luck to win and if I use the fake Ra like everyone before me, I'll die. Marik: Yea, my plan is better. Use Ra. Odion: *sigh* Fine. But you better not throw a fit and let your dark self take control making all of this pointless. Marik: I swear on my brother's life.
That would completely defeat the plot armor. Although, to be fair, this time Joey barely relied on luck, only a little bit when he played Fairy Box. Also, his luck totally ran out when he kept drawing Spells he had no use for at that point.
I really like seeing these duels reverse engineered and how they can change the perspective of how events play out. I hope you make a video on Yuma vs Nasch. That duel was amazing.
I have a feeling anime Serket's "???" Defense would become the amount of destroyed monsters defense points if it was switched to Defense Mode, honestly.
I second this. I blanked on the name, but it’s an iconic card for Joey that needs him to have a monster out. Seems like a perfect choice for his final brick.
Actually now that i think about it, that would have made the end better if it was Skull Dice, because he could set it along with idk sword/shield to thrown Odion off. Then Odion summons Fake Ra, and you just watch Joey's face fall into disrepair especially if its done after Joey makes his comment about Odion being a respectable duelist
@@TaiDZero True, Joey could have set those Spells, and bluff, But sadly we saw Joey's reaction to drawing them so Odion would know that they're bluffs, Joey needs to work on his Pokerface
What happens with the Embodiment of Apophis problem is something that is very common in these early duels that are adapted from the manga. In this case, what happens is that Embodiment of Apophis can only be activated when you are attacked, its manga effect is: "Activated when an opponent's monster attacks! This card becomes the Trap Monster blablabla" (Thats why anime Odion mentions it). The problem is that the card in the anime does not have that restriction written, so tecnically Odion could simply win in that part of the duel. The duel analysis is completely correct, but for those who are confused about about this type of plays I would recommend taking a look at its manga counterparts since there you can find the reasons for many of the characters weird plays/decisions. Another example of this weird decisions of that (because of the Battle City manga rules) you can only set 1 Trap Card per turn so Temple of the Kings allow Odion to set 2 traps per turn and thats why he only sets 2 in anime as well.
Well, it wouldn't be the only time in which an anime card's effect is wider than what it's written in its text. And I'm not only talking about the God Cards.
Orion was honestly a far better duelist than Marik. Marik mostly depended of using the Shadow Games so his opponents would die before the combat ended, so his decks mostly consisted of torture tool. Good for making the opponents "Give Up", but not the best at actually winning. And this almost costed him the victory multiple times. On the other side, Orion was simply STRONG and had a VERY solid strategy on his deck, and countermeasures against the countermeasures that could be used against it. It's funny to think what would have happened if we changed the games a bit, so Joey fought against Marik instead of Orion, and won (Because we all know he won that duel, but was robbed of it the same way Orion was robbed of winning this one). That could have led to Joey fighting Orion later on, but this time owning the Winged Dragon of Ra, which may have been enough to defeat the Mystical Beast of Serket. And if he lost there, that would mean that Orion, now the true owner of the Winged Dragon of Ra, would ahve fought against Yugi at the end. I know this couldn't happen because story reasons, but taht Orion vs Yugi would ahve been an amazing duel XD.
now that i think of it,that wouldve basically been a yugi vs raphael...odion not wanting to cheat or use tricks,just playing fair and square still wouldve lost,no one can beat destiny draw,but still,wouldve beemn cool
A bit odd since while you can't see the text in full, in a few freeze frames of the Japanese version you can see "battle phase" and while part of it is obscured, there isn't enough space in the part that can't be seen for it to specify that an attack is declared as an activation requirement. At best it might say "Activate only during a Battle Phase. This card is treated as a Normal Monster Card (Reptile-Type/EARTH/Level 4/ATK 1600/DEF 1800), and is Special Summoned to your Monster Card Zone. (This card is also still treated as a Trap Card.)"
"I've already won. I could summon my all-mighty Dragon of Ra, but you showed no skill to be worthy of being destroyed by a god. Now, perish with the rest of your life points!"
The Game Boy Advance title Yu-Gi-Oh! The Sacred Cards honestly makes the Battle City tournament a lot better in my eyes since there aren't any duels that have giant asterisks near them (Joey winning by standing up, Mai not going for game with the Harpie Lady Sisters, Kaiba winning because he saw something in a dream). Yugi still beats Bakura, but your player character duels Odion (you take Ishizu's place) and wins, still freeing Yami Marik as a result. Joey then loses and almost dies to Marik, and Kaiba beats Mai. In the semis, your character beats Yugi and Kaiba loses to Marik, and in the finals, you obviously beat Marik. Sure, it can't be canon for obvious reasons, but at least the duels are believable.
@@tomato2517 I think almost all of the Yu-Gi-Oh games where you play as the guy with the red hat and jacket (who's also the master duel default avatar) do this, eg Tag Force
At the time of 10:26 when you say “and he draws alligator sword” the card Joey is holding is or looks like a pendulum card with a monster top half and a spell bottom half
I think it does need reminding that joey is meant to be an underdog character who never really got his hands on good cards. His only good cards came from his wins vs. other duelists and even then their power level is questionable as really the only good one is Jinzo. He is using a deck of reject cards and shows their potential with cards that people consider not useful, showing that even the meek can be mighty in the right circumstances, effectively mimicing the style Yugi uses throughout the series who uses a combination of cards and boosts and tricks to evade and overpower far stronger monsters. The difference is that Joey likes his cards, he plays what he enjoys. He manages to do well in Duelist Kingdom but Battle City once more trips him up with new rules and he never truly thinks about improving his deck because ironically his luck wins him duels which leads to him being lazy about his deck. By all accounts, he is akin to Yusei from 5Ds. He uses "trash" cards that many don't think are good and he shows people their potential when you let them shine. Gearfried and Flame swordsman both represent joey in a sense in that one is one held back by restraints placed by themselves (in this case his restrain is literally himself, not acknowledging his reliance on luck) and Flame Swordsman the card he wants to be. Later down the line, Joey I feel would develop well and if we got to see him more and see where he would of gone, I feel his deck would revolve around Warrior Toolbox strategies with a small touch of luck thrown in via the Dice cards and keeping Fairy Box in. He isn't a bad duelist. Just a bad deck builder.
Bad cards are bad cards. I hate when anime justifies bad cards for plot or character progression. Irl you'd be laughed at tournaments if you tried that.
I honestly wish we could've seen Rishid duel more than once. The guy collected 12 locator cards in time to make the final rounds and even outplayed Jounouchi. I always rank him as a top 10 strongest duelist (without shenanigans).
@@TGSAnimeWhen Joey drew Polymerization it made me think what it would be like if Jinzo, Insect Queen and Legendary Fisherman could fuse together. What would a Fusion Monster with those materials make if it was made today.
This just proves that far from depending on luck, Joey is the most unlucky duelist in the series. He identified Odion's trap deck immediately, but had to wait several turns before he could use shenanigans to search and summon Jinzo.
Fun fact: There are similar patterns between this duel and the one against Yami Marik, in terms of traps and being close to victory But one moment to highlight, against Yami Marik, Joey in the sub hopes to draw his “giant trunade” (hurricane) card to clear Marik’s field to win But he fails to draw it and it’s a very rare moment to hear a character wish for a card we know is in their deck but fail to draw it, that I wish happened a bit more often
I think with the anime version of Temple of the Kings, its effect would probably go like this: "Both players can only set two cards per turn while this card is face-up on the field. During your Main Phase, you can banish one monster in your hand. During your Main Phase, you can pay half your Life Points and tribute one monster on the field you control to Special Summon the monster banished by this effect. If a monster whose original name is "The Winged Dragon of Ra" is banished by this card's effect, your opponent cannot declare attacks, also monsters you control are unaffected by opponent's card effects."
21:09 They might be more Trap monsters. It would make sense if he had more than just 3 Trap monsters, but because he has Serket out he doesn’t really need them.
I mean TBF Marik has always had.God Tunel Vision so I doubt anybody would believe Odion was him if they knew he had it but chose not to use it, in fact the opposite might be the case. And if Odion didn't have The fake Ra He wouldn't have had the Temple's Peotection, so Joe would have just used the whole Sword and Shield play to win anyways.
@@thekey0123kinda funny you mention that because in a past duel he used Sword and Shield in combo with Battle Warrior to win over Bonez. Peeps wonder why he kept battle warrior, he has a winning combo with it
@@TaiDZero wouldn't that combo work better with a monster like Little Winguard since it has both a higher attack, and deffense? Heck even Swordsman of Landstar has a slightly higher deffense.
@@dudejoe24 Ironically, Reiko also used a mill strategy for her Deck against Joey, much like Team Unicorn's whole team strategy was milling. 5D's vs. Unicorn is still one of the worst, most insulting Duels because of how it ends, IMO.
I have the answer to your Serket question Unless the monster’s effect is negated, a ??? stat is adopted as the current base stat. So that stat is carried over with Shield And Sword I used a setup with Tyranno Infinity equipped with Bashing Shield (which boosts ATK by 1000), and Shield And Sword. Tyrrano Infinity’s effect ATK became its DEF, so its DEF became banished cards times 1000. However the boosted ATK via Bashing Shield carried over to its changed ATK. Since its original DEF was 0, its new ATK became 0 + 1000 due to Bashing shield. To summarize: the altered base stat (white numbers) becomes the new DEF That being said, Serket’s stats would depend on whether its ATK and DEF are being boosted or being changed. If the base stats are being changed (which is usually followed by the word “becomes”), then the 5825 ATK would swap with whatever its DEF number currently is. If its effect was boosting its stats (Which is usually followed by the word “gains”), then Serket would basically just lose 2500 ATK since its original ATK and DEF swap, but the 3325 it gained would stay on its new ATK.
That’s a weird effect of temple of the kings as, in the manga, that was the battle city rules, only one spell and one trap could be placed on the field each turn, and temple of the kings allowed Odion to set 2 traps a turn
It's much like Winged Dragon of Ra's "quick attack" effect because in the manga, special summoned monsters cannot attack the same turn they are summoned under normal circumstances.
I kinda think it's funny that during both Marik Joey summons Gearfried He summons it against "Marik" at the start and actual Marik at the end of that one Kinda weird
I notice Joey being in the semi final and final round of his Battle City tournaments feels more like Joey's survival mode than to play actual Duel Monsters card game
The last mystery card was definitely Graceful Dice. It wasn't a trap so he had no inclination to set it, and it wasn't a monster because of course he would have set it. He got Graceful Dice with no monsters on field for it to be boosted by.
@@BmanTheChampma opinion, should've been Skull Dice. Would have made the comment about emotional damage become real when Odion summons Fake Ra and Joey knowing traps are useless against a god card
@@thewanderingmistnull2451 depends on the trap itself. As seen in the case of Kaiba duelin the mask duo originally where they attempted to use mirror force for obalisk to smash it n finish them off. But if im remebering correctly Kaiba also activated obalisk effect before attackin. I cant remember another time where one tried to use a trap aganist a god card though.
Lmao, I had just looked up yesterday for Odion summoning his fake copy of Ra and was disappointed in how little there actually was...which is when I also reminded myself of when you'd actually cover this one, especially with it being such a good duel other than the fact of it being the last of the four duels against the Gravekeepers in Battle City to cover, and would you look at that, here it finally is! Thank you for this, and keep up the great content!
I'm gonna say that last card Joey drew was Graceful Dice. Like an extra kick in the pants for deciding to use really weak monsters and adding garnets to his deck instead of literally any warriors with 800+ ATK (of which there are very, very many).
Makes you wonder how things would have went had Odion disobeyed and defeated Joey, perhaps just showing the fake card afterwards. Here, Marik probably maintains his sanity.Then youd have to wonder how well normal Marik would fair in his duels. There's a good chance he'd lose to Mai if he spends too long pretending to not have Ra in his deck as she only lost due to God Card tunnel vision, and he might lose anyway if his dueling is worse than Yami Mariks.
There's also the point all the way on Joey's 3rd turn where he could have played Giant Trunade first to see if any traps were activated, THEN summoned his monster. The only thing that summoning first does is expose hyahusa knight to trap-based removal
Yeah but TBF he was probably expecting something like Mirror Force rather then Judgement of Anubis, and after Judgement of Anubis was activated that would have just made Joe more worried as if Odion protected his Backrow from a card that returned them to the hand then at least one of those cards could have been something just as dangerous as mirror force If not more so! At that point he probably wouldn't have attacked even with Hayabusa Knight, at least not for a couple more turns.
I though that a couple times. Had he kept Hayabusa Knight, he wouldn't have taken a direct attack from one of the Embodimebts of Apophis, those sword-wielding snakes nearly wiped out his LP.
@Lexgnzlz he would have tooken less damage, but that wouldn't have mattered too much since by the end, Odions monster would have been strong enough to one-shot Joe anyways.
@@thekey0123 Unless he had saved Monster Reborn in order to combine it with Sword and Shield. Joey shouldn't have played Insect Queen, Jinzo was as strong as her with no other Insects in play, also it bricked Odion's Trap Cards, so Monster Reborn should have been kept in his hand in case Odion found a way to defeat it.
There's one more similarity though. If either Odion or Marik had tried their best against Joey (aka not trying to keep a cover/ torment him), he'd never have a chance to win either of these duels.
Neat analysis video! Man, the sheer number of unknown cards in this duel.... They really didn't want to design/choose more cards for Odion, I guess? Man, it's kinda funny that 2 of Joey's duels in Battle City ultimately came down to stamina.
I feel like another joey duel that would be a good duel analysis is his duel with rex in the Waking the Dragon Arc. Mainly because I noticed joey does a huge misplay with Panther Warrior
Consider why so many people have so many week monsters in their decks in the series. It's because there, you HAVE to either pull they cards from packs, will a prize card from a Duel, or have someone generous help you out. The individual card market seems to be really harsh here, as if the card economy is super tight.
I find Odion's gameplay interesting and really emphasize how DM era trap decks mindset, as you say, contains emotional damage. Side feedback too from your previous "what modern deck DM characters uses", Odion "indirectly" got support for Continuous trap decks with Qardan and Pharaonic Advent, so I'd say he would play trap monster + floodgate deck, with ace monster of Egyptian God Slime.
7:55 -It's fun you point this out with the Mai/Panic moment because she is acting as the one who just learned the lesson from him and accusing Yugi of messing up..but then in THIER duel she STILL hasn't learned her lesson since it is a bluff by Yugi that costs her the duel. She assumes his set card is a trap and focuses on destroying it over attacking. It's only then he reveals she would have won had she gone with her instincts and not second guessed. She also starts out by weoponizing phych out techniques, then being the victim of them..then thinking she is the expert ..then losing her big shot to them..she has a bit of a cycling character arch when it comes to emphasis on this aspect of the game in the first season.
I don't think it's what she ment and it's more she's talking from the fact she did the same thing to yugi but lost because sometimes 1 screw up can cost you the duel which it did since yugi bluffed
Let's be fair here Marik's plan was pretty risky and failed here, Since Odion plays a fake Rai the real Wing Dragon of Rai gets rightfully pissed off as a result... Well not only Joey won but Marik's evil self has been awaken.
This was an interesting duel. Thank you so much for analyzing it. Here are some future suggestions: Aster Phoenix vs Jaden (round 2) Aster Phoenix vs Adrian Gecko Alister vs Kaiba (both rounds at once if possible) Atem and Kaiba vs Lumis and Umbra Jaden vs Darkness (season 4) Again appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos. 🤠
A minor misplay that I don't think affected much, but Joey summoning his monster before activating Trunade to check if Odion had any disruptions resulted in a big minus for him that could've been avoided
Well, I agree, but he couldn't summon 3 monsters at once, so he could have tried Trunade and then summoned Tiny Guardian in Defense, that would have walled Odion as his Trap monsters only had 1600 and TG had 1800 defense
@@RodimusMinor1987 If Joe activated Giant Trunade any earlier Even if it didn't get negated Odion would have just set his other Traps again, and Joe didn't know what Odion had so it was better in his eye's to go for game rather then to just deal alot of damage.
@@RodimusMinor1987 Yeah it also would have made a huge difference if Judgement of Anubis worked like it's Irl counterpart like it does in later seasons.
It's always funny seeing people go "Joey should have beat Marik! He lost because plot armor!" when the same thing happened in reverse when he dueled Odion.
For Joey's mystery card three options, one for each category: Graceful/Angel Dice- pretty natural brick since he already lost the two main monsters to use it on. Gearfried the Lightning- would be ironic given it was very close to winning him the duel against Marik, but at the same time he couldn't have played it. Magical Arm Shield- neat card and effect, but he would have no means of activating it since you need to have a monster and your opponent needs to have two.
Joey would have won if he didn't summon Hayabusa Knight before using Giant Trunade. It can attack twice, so if he could have used it instead of Battle Warrior, he would have dealt 2400 + 1000x2+ 500 = 4900 damage. Hell, he wouldn't have needed Swordsman of Landstar because he could have dealt 4400 damage.
Probably Joey drew in his final turn Fortress Whale from Marko. He got that card from Marko and should use it. Would be funny :D And a good card as example for the duel
There’s a couple duels I’d like to see analyzed in this series. Those being Solomon Muto vs Joey Wheeler, the Exodia using Rare Hunter vs Yugi Muto, and Maximillion Pegasus vs Yugi Muto (this one can even be a double whammy with both the first encounter duel and the Duelist Kingdom Finals).
So if Odion tried to read the ancient Egyptian text on the fake Ra to further play up his role. Mai would have seen it had a requirement and wouldn't have tried to take it from Marik in their duel.
I don't think marik knows the ancient text being there's no evidence of his lesser half using until his inner hatred came back. Just like when the lesser and bakura tried to duel the darker half and wasn't aware of instant attack and point to point.
@@UnsilencedOutspokenTikTok He does not know the chant, however he should know about the text. The chant appears when the card is put on the field, the literal card text is added
15:04 reminder that Joey is poor and he used his duel island winnings to pay for his sisters surgery. In fact the only new cards he was able to get that don’t involve the battle city ante rule were the cards he used against duke devlin. I forget if we ever saw that duel all the way through but if we don’t that may be an interesting duel to analysis in the future.
I hope you do some Duel Analysis from the Duelist Kingdom arc in your videos someday Was Joey about to Defeat Yugi? Was Bandit Keith about to Defeat Joey? Was Kaiba about to Defeat Pegasus? Was Yugi about to Lose to Pegasus?
Modern day retrain of Battle Warrior: Fierce Battle Warrior EARTH Level 3 ATK/ 700 DEF/ 1,000 [Warrior/Effect]: If this card is Normal or Special Summoned, you can target monsters, up to the number of warrior monsters on your field and in your GY: Switch the original ATK and DEF values of those targets as long as this card remains face-up on the field (monsters with no DEF value cannot be targeted). Once per turn (Quick Effect): Tribute 1 monster on either side of the field; This monster gains ATK equal to that monster’s Level/Rank/Link rating x300. You can banish this card from your GY: Shuffle up to 3 warrior monsters from your GY into your deck, then you can draw 1 card.
This has to be one of the worst duels of the franchise in retrospect. So many pass turns, a magical BS loss, Odion failing to see lethal, so many of Odion’s cards being mysterious/unknown, Joey bricking 2 turns in a row. Definitely one of the shows weakest entries in terms of writing imo
Do Yuma vs Nasch please. There was a point on the penultimate when Nasch could’ve won where he had Black Ray Lancer and Submersible Carrier Aero Shark. If he attacked with Aero Shark first and then Black Ray Lancer, Yuma with only 350 LP left and Utopia with 1600 ATK, Nasch would’ve dealt 500 damage to Yuma and won. What do you think? I think it’s a great duel to analyse and the best one of Zexal.
He couldn’t have won that way. At that point, Utopia had one overlay unit. Yuma would have to tank the hit with Aero Shark, but he still would’ve used Utopia’s ability to deflect Black Ray’s attack keeping him at 50 LP like what basically happened but in reverse order. Regardless, I absolutely agree for this duel to be analysed.
I think Zexal is avoided, and mainly for the better. Going over the possible plays in that series is an absolute nonsense, with *every single card* having a high school essay for an effect, multiple effects, and general "plotkai screw you, no my plotkai's stronger" bollocks being rampant. I've honestly tuned out when those duels have been covered because it just feels like drowning in XYZ era bs tbh xD
@@alexisauld7781well, he actually has already covered multiple post-5Ds fights. Including some from Zexal. But they are way less numerous than the ones for the first 3 series. It‘s not like they are impossible to cover (since the fights themselves are still pretty simplistic all-in-all), but they certainly are a lot more annoying to „reverse-engineer“, so to say. You know, finding *the* play that would have won the duel
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Odion had one duel in the series and Marik really went out of his way to ruin it.
"- Master Marik, I'm about to win ! I have finally summoned my boss monster, there's nothing Joey can do !
- Use the God Card to convince them you're me.
- But Master, they are already convinced and you've given them no reason to suspect you.
- Don't care, use it.
- But Master, this card has killed every duelist that tried to play it ! It's like playing russian roulette but the gun is fully loaded !
- The Mega Ultra Chicken, Odion ! Use it !
-... I hate my life."
That's God card tunnel vision at work.
F plot armor!!
I thought Yami marik intentionally did that to get Odeon out of the way
Marik to not put too much of point on it... is an Idiot
Marik on that jobber grind as usual
This battle really showed how chaotic Joey's deck is. Jinzo and Gilford are the only powerhouses with no gambling risks.
Welcome to gen 1 Yugioh.
And I'm sorry to say it only got worse for Joey after this. Because he had the hardest time against Valon and Solomon, and got outright destroyed by Zigried.
@@SabeNo-rh7mb I'm still pissed how the Grand Championship arc treated Joey. He went from making Yami Marik have a panic attack to just being some other rich boy's dog
@@zeospark9715 Marik (both versions) was just a bad duelist. Hate to say it, but despite his threat and ominous presence, he would not gotten as nearly as far in that tournament without the god cards or the shadow games. Even *Mai* of all people was giving him trouble before she made the mistake of trying to summon Ra herself.
*Worse.* It was Odion who won all the locator cards needed for both him and Marik to even enter the finals. Meaning Marik himself never had to do a thing.
@@SabeNo-rh7mbto be fair, Ziegfried was cheating and altering Joey’s rolls/coin flips.
"Traps do emotional damage." Me, going up against Runik stun at my locals with my ghoti deck, tears in my eyes: yeah Yugi. Yeah they sure do
Blue Eyes player here. Im with ya
I felt that, one day the fish will reign supreme 🎏
Duel links causal karma cut 😢
@@vicentemartinez4691 Karma Cut isn't used anymore, we got Ice Dragon Prison (I hate that card).
@@ThinogIceTearyou’re forgetting crackdown
“I stood up, so I win!”
“Way to be a biped, Joey!”
“I’m F***ing insane!”
@@sherwood750
"Hello Mr Insane may I call you F***ing?"
@@DrakeKnight99
“Call me Melvin.”
@@sherwood750 "It's Melvin! No doubt he's going to say the most fiendish and heartless thing you've ever heard!"
"What a lovely day."
"Take that back, you fiend!"
Kaiba: Congrats, Wheeler. You've graduated from a dog to a primate
With this every duel in the battle city finals has been covered
That's pretty sick. I wonder what the next arc which will be completed
@@SowaraAkther1I hope more on the virtual world arc
I need analysis on Gozaburo vs Kaiba@@OfficialD-20
unless you count Marik vs Bakura
Well for quarter finals, semi finals, and the final duel, but now we can do the preliminaries, like yugi vs the rare hunter, or arcana, or strings, you get the idea
Odion deserves some respect: he didn't rely on Shadow Games nor used Millenium items like Marik and Ishizu, he played fair and square just like any regular duelist and he could have the won if he didn't played the fake Winged Dragon of Ra. Also he won 12 locator for him and Marik which is also impressive.
A good person working for the villain for personal reasons, always makes for a great character!
I find all the more fitting that that is the exact reason Joey figures out Odion is not Marik
The fact he played fair and square is the reason Joey suspected him.
Didnt the rare hunters overall win the locator cards for the 3 of them odion was just one helping to win some
Odion never held millennium item to begin with just a binding spell tatted on his face. He's just a highly skilled duelist.
Reading through the manga, Odion's field spell apparently lets HIM place 2 trap cards down at once. So apparently a rule in Battle City is only putting down a single set card at a time. His temple is also a continuous spell card, not a field spell card.
On his first turn, he summons Gearfried, Panther Warrior...and Landstar. Geez.
It is fully stated, even written on the visible card shown, that the Apophis Trap Monsters are summonable after an attack.
Fisherman is a 4 star monster in the manga, and because Joey didn't take Insect Queen, he has Jinzo and Fisherman on the field when Odion draws the fake Ra. So instead, he puts down Baby Dragon.
Yeah, Selket doesn't ever have its defense displayed in the manga, since it is unnecessary. Oh, and Joey did have a monster in his hand in the manga, but didn't play it due to Selket being too strong. But Odion also gives Joey his respect, which is why Joey calls him out on not being Marik. So Marik orders Odion to prove otherwise by summoning Ra. Yugi already had suspicions that Odion isn't Marik, which he reveals after Joey calls Odion out, and showing a card in the midst of the duel would probably be illegal. So the only way to prove it would be to summon Ra, which Yugi suspected was sealed in the temple. And yeah, Marik says that sealing a card in the temple would protect him from both attacks and magic.
So yes, shenanigans at the end, but for Marik, it was entirely justifiable. Only by summoning Ra would Odion dash away any claims that he isn't Marik, and showing the card may reveal it to be a fake, or even illegal during a duel.
One correct. In the Battle City rules in the manga, you can only use or set 1 spell and 1 trap per turn. Also, all spells are quick plays.
yeah NO it wasn't justified for MARIK
he could have just told Odion to show he had the Winged Dragon of Ra on the field AFTER the duel was over and tell Joey he chose not to use it in order to not reveal it effects to the rest of the duelist watching the duel
why did odion explicitly play temple in the field slot then? irl it's continuous but that anime duel it's a field. kinda like how magical hats in the anime is a spell, spellbinding circle is one at first but only the one time against kaiba's ghost, negate attack was also a spell early and only settled as a trap by season 4, copycat and time wizard are playable as monsters or spells, and shadow spell is a normal spell. besides temple of the kings the irl card didn't come out until the marik structure deck which came out i think a good couple of years into the gx or 5d's run so it was designed to be a field, but konami when printing it decided temple with its original pre-errata effect wasn't really searchable by terraforming as even back then field spells were just starting to pick up a bit of steam and they sidestepped that issue by saying it's continuous for irl.
@@tdarkhorse4 Please read the first line of my comment.
Joey won Insect Queen, but never added it to his deck in the manga. That's how it should have been in the anime too.
Joey was smart to only add Jinzo and Legendary Fisherman to his deck in the manga.
Insane how the fake Marik fought better than the real one against the same dude
Bruh LOL
Bruuuuuuhuhuhh
It's also been shown that both Mai and Joey should have beat Marik.
Especially Mai
While Marik toyed with Joey a bit, he didn’t with Mai and once Mai stole Ra, she practically won it she didn’t summon it
@@aceclover758 Whoa whoa, a _competent_ female character in Yu-Gi-Oh? Can't have that
I'm starting to notice how bad the quarterfinals were in the Battle City Tournament.
Yugi vs. Bakura was riddled with misplays and alternate plays that could've ended the duel earlier. The only saving grace was Yugi summoning Silfer the Sky Dragon.
Joey vs. Odion was one of the biggest robs, as Odion could've won if he didn't follow Marik's orders.
Marik vs. Mai was arguably the best of the four main duels, (Yami Marik vs. Yami Bakura was more or less a bonus duel,) but Mai lost her chance when attempted to use the Winged Dragon of Ra.
Kaiba vs. Ishizu was another duel where the opponent was robbed. If Ishizu didn't rely on her Millennium Necklace that predicted a predestined duel, and the Millennium Rod not intervening to help Kaiba win, Ishizu would've.
And Yami Marik vs. Yami Bakura was a joke. Bakura got absolutely bodied by Yami Marik. Even with the spirit of Marik helping Bakura defeat his eviler counterpart, he still lost. In fact, with the sole exception of Yami Marik using the effects of the Winged Dragon of Ra, Marik didn't lose any life points during this duel.
The, 4 way duel, the semi Finals, the 3rd place duel and the Final Duel were a lot more interesting than Round 1 of the Battle City Finals.
If Joey had played with a bit more courage and smarts I don’t think Odion would have stood a chance and he would still advance to the top four. But the other three quarter final matches, if both sides from each played a bit smarter it would still be a question mark.
when mai says that playing against traps can lead you to self-destruct she could also be referring to when she lost against yugi for that exact reason
Wasn’t her deck relying on the Mirror Wall trap back then? And Yugi nearly destroyed himself attacking into it repeatedly.
And she used another trap (Shadow of Eyes) to complement mirror wall.
They meant when Yugi bluffed her with Monster Recovery. She over-thought things and lost because of that.
I'd love to see that, that was an awesome bluff from yugi
The combination of Aligator Sword and Fairy Box may be a reference to the arcade game Wacky Gator where you hit Aligators with a mallot.
holy shite i 100% see that, if its true i mean could be but still. Good head canon reference, didn't notice that until now. thx
The machine was made by Bandai. The reference tracks
17:12 That shot with all the signature monsters of the people Joey has beaten looks badass
Goes hard
He should've took man eater bug from weevil instead lol I kno cant pick the card but some sneaky duelist did during the tourney love battle city
Yeah shame it had to be the rarest card and not any card considering you could get the rarest why not any thing not rare
If you look back at the duel, you’ll notice that not ONCE does Odion mention the Shadow Realm, which would both be a giveaway to the characters that he wasn’t Marek, but ALSO a giveaway to the VIEWERS that he wasn’t evil
Why would he mention something that doesn't exist?
What gave away Rishid was that he acted honourably and acknowledged Jonouchi as a duelist, which doesn't follow for Marik who previously used manipulation and treated people as disposable pawns.
@@kindlingking Because we grew up with the 4Kids dub. People know that there is no shadow realm, although not always how the Dark Games truly work.
The manga isn't appreciated enough. Simple as that.
@@kindlingking
Marik treated his Ghouls as pawns if it meant taking Atem down with them for the freedom of his lineage and vengeance against the Pharaoh.
And now he's doing the same for his brother and look what happened...
@@mystery8820 not just ghouls, the only person he cares about was Rishid (and maybe Ishizu), and even then he let his hubris get better of him, which almost resulted in his brother's death. Everyone is disposable to him as long as he gets the benefit, which I guess distinguishes him from Dark Marik who's evil just for the hell of it. Doesn't matter what his motivations are thought, even before "going dark" Marik is a scumbag.
@@kindlingking
Regular Marik at least HAD a motive, Yami Marik just kills just cuz he can.
15:00 the anime version of Graceful Dice needs a monster with 500 or less attack. But Battle Warrior has 700 with no effects. That's the confusing one.
In addition, stronger monsters are rare and expensive.
That’s why Kaiba is the only character who hasn’t BEWD.
reason Battle Warrior is still there because it was part of his winning combo against Bonez. There he used Battle Warrior and Sword and Shield to nab him the victory. The irony that Joey had both of these cards during the duel and couldn't pull that combo off again.
that condition makes sense, cuz in the anime, graceful dice multiplies the attack of the pokemon it affects, which is op for cards with more than 500 attack points
It make slightly more sense in the manga where most of his duelists kingdom stuff was level five and higher like tiger axe, yes really, he only had 5 level 4 and under monsters two of which are in his battle city deck. the fact that we only know 9 on the monsters from his manga battle city deck, not including the ones that he won in tournament means he likely didn't have anything else.
In the manga, Battle City rules state that each player may only set 1 Spell and 1 Trap face down per turn, and Temple of the Kings allows the user to set 2 Traps per turn instead, that could be why Odion is only setting 2 of his cards per turn instead of flooding his backrow on his first turn. I’m going to say that the anime works the same way before the Battle City semi finals since nobody does seem to set more than 1 of each type per turn up until the semi finals I believe but I might be wrong.
Yeah the manga definitely explains most of the mechanics in yugioh that seem like bs
Considering how Chaotic the activation of all spell, magic and traps can be in one single turn, this restriction doesn't seem like a bad idea right now.
The anime also did come first. So they probably saw it was missing info and fixed when writting the manga
@@viniribr No it doesn't for original YGO, Kaz has already set the rules in stone, you might be mistaken for latter YGO series where it flipped (which Kaz has very little input anyway)
@@viniribr The manga came first for this Yu-Gi-Oh series, so it's an adaptation for it. That's why a lot of people consider Noah's arc, Waking Dragons season and Grand Prix arc as filler because those didn't happen in the manga. They started making anime first and then manga series starting with GX.
I’ll always find Joey’s Foolish Burial + Graverobber = Jinzo play iconic. I will say that I do find it frustating that Joey was dead to rights and had no outs to escape Odion’s direct attack. At least if he did have a way out, I would respect him in this duel more, but Marik really almost destroyed himself by forcing Odion to play fake Ra.
I think it could’ve been interesting if Joey had a card that would win him the duel during the last turn, so when Marik commands Odion to play fake Ra, he has a 2nd reason as Ra wouldn’t have been affected by the set card. In this scenario, Odion would be gambling on what the set card is, but as we see, he really didn’t want to play fake Ra.
As we see in later Battle City, a similar scenario occurs in Joey vs Marik with plot armor saving Marik there, as it does save Joey here.
His out could have simply been a burn card he kept from the time he was possessed by Marik.
I wouldn't call Joey vs Marik plot armour.
Shadow Games demonstrated what they can do and thus, did what they were supposed to do: be dangerous for people without Millennium Items.
So, shadow games were an already established story mechanic at this moment. It's fair to use, as far as I'm concerned.
In terms of story, Joey’s fate was deserved.
This duel was far more egregious though, because as you stated, Odion had no reason to play Ra. He could have literally just shown he had the fake Egyptian God card after he won the duel.
Grave robber doesn’t do that. For Joey to have a strong ass card like that is antithetical to his profile. It’s like giving beat cards to your little brother.
@@MichaelisBLeeFinally! Someone else realizes that Marik used superpowers to beat Joey and not just a plot sword!
@@streetguru9350 I think Joey must’ve gotten rid of them. Kaiba does say in that duel in the sub that cards that deal effect damage are illegal in Battle City. But of course, since Marik has Ra and Kaiba wants it, he doesn’t disqualify Marik for playing burns cards so he can get Ra.
Im a simple man.
I see "Was X about to defeat Y?"... I like
You know you are in the future when 11-turn duels are mostly extinct nowadays.
Very true, unless you're going against stalling decks with no ways around it...which, sadly, has happened to me a lot at times over the years. 😅
You're acting like that's because of something unforeseen.
If old school Yugioh cards all had a search effect, a protection effect, and some special summon effect, duels would have only lasted a few turns back then too.
Modern Yugioh is basically like playing a videogame with all the cheats turned on.
I remember my friends and I would compete to see who could finish a level in Golden Eye the fastest with infinite ammo health enabled.
My point is that anything can take skill. And skill seems to be the only defense people have when I bring up how poorly designed modern Yugioh has become.
To be honest, that's a fair point @@robrick9361 , even if I wasn't intentionally trying to point out poorly designed modern Yugioh. Sorry if my comment came across as such.
*laughs in domain monarchs*
Mostly?
23:22 - Counterpoint, had Joey swung with Gearfried and Hayabusa full force at the start of the duel, Odion would’ve been left at 200 LP and would’ve been doomed if Joey ever got another opportunity to swing, period. Which Jinzo absolutely would’ve secured later on.
Every time Joey decides not to go for his typical all-out attack strategy, it backfires on him.
If Joey attacked with Gearfried, Odion would have chained Embodiment of Apophis and he can put it into DEF, which Joey wouldn't have been able to get over.
So fun fact: In the manga, Jinzo is level 7 instead of level 6, meaning it requires two tributes to summon. So due to its real world version being level 6, several duels in the anime were changed to make Joey’s plays with Jinzo make more sense
I don't know if this was intentional or not by the writers, but I love how Joey's Battle City finals starts with him summoning Gearfried, and ends with him summoning Gearfried again at the end of his duel with Marik
And both against Marik
Huh....damn, good catch
Gear fried I see as a monster that represents Joey, he starts off in the finals as a strong warrior, unsure of himself at first, but he's starting off strong to try and duel yugi in the finals, then against marik he summons gearfried on his final turn, as a true warrior ready to take down his enemy and fight his true opponent, unfortunately the warrior falls in battle, succumbing to his injuries from and intense duel
Good catch.
"Traps do emotional damage"
*Laughs in evenly matched*
17:04 - HE THREW, right here.
19:00 - On that note, had Joey conserved his Monster Reborn, he could’ve used (after Shield & Sword) to revive Jinzo, who could overpower Serket even if it had it’s real life base DEF of 2000, allowing Fisherman to swing for game after.
He didn't know Odion would summon Serket. He didn't missplay, he couldn't prepare for a monster he didn't know that was coming.
@@roncerjani9063 You don’t have to anticipate a monster coming to not instantly blow a Monster Reborn in the hand. He already had Jinzo on the field against a majority Trap deck. He just had to coast till something took Jinzo out and then bring it back when it was more favorable to do so. Like if the monster that took it out suddenly had its ATK dropped to lower than Jinzo’s base 2400.
@@mayborneflower he wanted to build up and deal a heavy blow all at once. It is a bad play the fact that he didn't calculate for his ace being destroyed, but it's not enough to say he threw. Just a case if overextending, which in hindsight wasn't a good thing to do.
But, the power of friendship...and Weevil I guess...
But he still couldn’t attack Odion because Ra was in the temple
Mai’s line about being afraid of traps was likely a reference to when she fell for Yugi’s bluff in Duelist Kingdom
Odion: Serket, Atta-
Marik: Use the Fake Ra, Odion!
Odion: Master, I'm about to win.
Marik: Use Ra or else they'll think you're not me!
Odion: Master, how about, and hear me out on this, I defeat him here, show I had Ra and say that there was no need to use it on such a weak duelist. He's literally relying on luck to win and if I use the fake Ra like everyone before me, I'll die.
Marik: Yea, my plan is better. Use Ra.
Odion: *sigh* Fine. But you better not throw a fit and let your dark self take control making all of this pointless.
Marik: I swear on my brother's life.
Odion - Wait I'm your Brother
Marik Exactly
@@RodimusMinor1987only one change
Odion - Wait I'm your Brother
Evil Marik Exactly
That would completely defeat the plot armor. Although, to be fair, this time Joey barely relied on luck, only a little bit when he played Fairy Box. Also, his luck totally ran out when he kept drawing Spells he had no use for at that point.
Say bye bye to the gummy bears
@@KingAizen1 "No! Not the gummy bears!"
I really like seeing these duels reverse engineered and how they can change the perspective of how events play out. I hope you make a video on Yuma vs Nasch. That duel was amazing.
20:20 I guess it was Fortress Whale.
I have a feeling anime Serket's "???" Defense would become the amount of destroyed monsters defense points if it was switched to Defense Mode, honestly.
I vote that Joey's final mysterious card was Graceful Dice
I second this. I blanked on the name, but it’s an iconic card for Joey that needs him to have a monster out. Seems like a perfect choice for his final brick.
Sounds Legit or maybe Gilford the Lightning
I was thinking Skull Dice, the irony shouldn't be lost. Zero hope from Skull Dice
Actually now that i think about it, that would have made the end better if it was Skull Dice, because he could set it along with idk sword/shield to thrown Odion off. Then Odion summons Fake Ra, and you just watch Joey's face fall into disrepair especially if its done after Joey makes his comment about Odion being a respectable duelist
@@TaiDZero
True, Joey could have set those Spells, and bluff, But sadly we saw Joey's reaction to drawing them so Odion would know that they're bluffs, Joey needs to work on his Pokerface
What happens with the Embodiment of Apophis problem is something that is very common in these early duels that are adapted from the manga. In this case, what happens is that Embodiment of Apophis can only be activated when you are attacked, its manga effect is: "Activated when an opponent's monster attacks! This card becomes the Trap Monster blablabla" (Thats why anime Odion mentions it). The problem is that the card in the anime does not have that restriction written, so tecnically Odion could simply win in that part of the duel. The duel analysis is completely correct, but for those who are confused about about this type of plays I would recommend taking a look at its manga counterparts since there you can find the reasons for many of the characters weird plays/decisions. Another example of this weird decisions of that (because of the Battle City manga rules) you can only set 1 Trap Card per turn so Temple of the Kings allow Odion to set 2 traps per turn and thats why he only sets 2 in anime as well.
Well, it wouldn't be the only time in which an anime card's effect is wider than what it's written in its text. And I'm not only talking about the God Cards.
Orion was honestly a far better duelist than Marik.
Marik mostly depended of using the Shadow Games so his opponents would die before the combat ended, so his decks mostly consisted of torture tool. Good for making the opponents "Give Up", but not the best at actually winning.
And this almost costed him the victory multiple times.
On the other side, Orion was simply STRONG and had a VERY solid strategy on his deck, and countermeasures against the countermeasures that could be used against it.
It's funny to think what would have happened if we changed the games a bit, so Joey fought against Marik instead of Orion, and won (Because we all know he won that duel, but was robbed of it the same way Orion was robbed of winning this one).
That could have led to Joey fighting Orion later on, but this time owning the Winged Dragon of Ra, which may have been enough to defeat the Mystical Beast of Serket.
And if he lost there, that would mean that Orion, now the true owner of the Winged Dragon of Ra, would ahve fought against Yugi at the end.
I know this couldn't happen because story reasons, but taht Orion vs Yugi would ahve been an amazing duel XD.
Marik's not a bad duelist but we see the moment he gets frazzled he comes to pieces... Rashid on the other hand keeps calm
now that i think of it,that wouldve basically been a yugi vs raphael...odion not wanting to cheat or use tricks,just playing fair and square
still wouldve lost,no one can beat destiny draw,but still,wouldve beemn cool
On top of that it's implied the Temples Protection Requires the Winged Dragon of Ra, so Joe might have won off that detail alone.
Anime is just bad. Manga Marik soloed everyone while having a good time doing it.
Marik's deck is literally just a worse version of Odion's. When you think of Marik, I personally think of his trap cards first.
I'm just sad that Serenity never witnessed Joey win a duel legitimately.
Unless you want to count his duel against the big 5 in the virtual world filler, I don't really because it is filler, but it's something right?
@@patrickzalatoris3206 She never saw his Big 5 duel
@@dinolover no, I mean when him and yugi fueled all 5 of them at once
@@patrickzalatoris3206 I'll count the filler duel as Serenity witnessing her brother win.
@@patrickzalatoris3206 that filler is mentioned in a canon episode so it counts.
9:20 in the anime Odion states that guardian of apophis can only be activated when he is attacked, so he can't activate them here.
A bit odd since while you can't see the text in full, in a few freeze frames of the Japanese version you can see "battle phase" and while part of it is obscured, there isn't enough space in the part that can't be seen for it to specify that an attack is declared as an activation requirement. At best it might say "Activate only during a Battle Phase. This card is treated as a Normal Monster Card (Reptile-Type/EARTH/Level 4/ATK 1600/DEF 1800), and is Special Summoned to your Monster Card Zone. (This card is also still treated as a Trap Card.)"
The Irony…the Battle Joey should have lost he won and the Battle he should have Won he lost.
Yeah so true. I love Joey but man sometimes his duels make me sad.
could you imagine if odion really just showed them ra instead of playing it lol
"I've already won. I could summon my all-mighty Dragon of Ra, but you showed no skill to be worthy of being destroyed by a god. Now, perish with the rest of your life points!"
@@blastodermisThat actually sounds cool and even quite legit!
He does show Ra, he confirms it's in the sealed box a few turns earlier. It's how the first episode of the two-parter ends.
@@blastodermis And dissing his opponent might even make people think he's Marik, so that's really perfect
@@shuttlecrossing1433 It was a four-parter.
I absolutely advocate that we get a, "Was Thelonius Viper about to defeat Jaden Yuki?" Cause Venoms are my favorite Archetype in Yugioh.
No. And after that, Viper was fish food.
@@mystery8820 Losing with a monster that cannot be target AND is unaffected is definitely a way to lose
@@stinkyroadhog1347
Viper had an alt wincon setup with Vennominaga, and it was more broken than IRL. He only needs to deal Battle Damage... ONCE.
That and Jaden vs Axel. I just rewatched because i found it interesting that Jaden was likely to lose the duel if Axel wasn’t forced to sell
The Game Boy Advance title Yu-Gi-Oh! The Sacred Cards honestly makes the Battle City tournament a lot better in my eyes since there aren't any duels that have giant asterisks near them (Joey winning by standing up, Mai not going for game with the Harpie Lady Sisters, Kaiba winning because he saw something in a dream).
Yugi still beats Bakura, but your player character duels Odion (you take Ishizu's place) and wins, still freeing Yami Marik as a result. Joey then loses and almost dies to Marik, and Kaiba beats Mai. In the semis, your character beats Yugi and Kaiba loses to Marik, and in the finals, you obviously beat Marik. Sure, it can't be canon for obvious reasons, but at least the duels are believable.
Agreed such a good game.
Such a good game, that and Reshef. I loved being inserted in the story like that and i wish it was more common
@@tomato2517 I think almost all of the Yu-Gi-Oh games where you play as the guy with the red hat and jacket (who's also the master duel default avatar) do this, eg Tag Force
Omg, you just reminded me that Temple of the Kings is a real card with a good effect for a deck I’m running, lol. Much appreciated!
Joey casually surviving getting struck by lightning by a god
And then survived getting set on fire by the very same God in another duel! Joey’s just built different!
@@ryhi5 well yeah but that fire didn't hit him directly
@@easternwoyer3876 he felt the pain of it due to the shadow game, and as Marik pointed out, that should have killed him.
@@ryhi5 Ra in Marik's Graveyard like:
Wtf is this dude made out of?
@@roncerjani9063Brooklyn rage
At the time of 10:26 when you say “and he draws alligator sword” the card Joey is holding is or looks like a pendulum card with a monster top half and a spell bottom half
I think it does need reminding that joey is meant to be an underdog character who never really got his hands on good cards. His only good cards came from his wins vs. other duelists and even then their power level is questionable as really the only good one is Jinzo. He is using a deck of reject cards and shows their potential with cards that people consider not useful, showing that even the meek can be mighty in the right circumstances, effectively mimicing the style Yugi uses throughout the series who uses a combination of cards and boosts and tricks to evade and overpower far stronger monsters. The difference is that Joey likes his cards, he plays what he enjoys. He manages to do well in Duelist Kingdom but Battle City once more trips him up with new rules and he never truly thinks about improving his deck because ironically his luck wins him duels which leads to him being lazy about his deck.
By all accounts, he is akin to Yusei from 5Ds. He uses "trash" cards that many don't think are good and he shows people their potential when you let them shine. Gearfried and Flame swordsman both represent joey in a sense in that one is one held back by restraints placed by themselves (in this case his restrain is literally himself, not acknowledging his reliance on luck) and Flame Swordsman the card he wants to be. Later down the line, Joey I feel would develop well and if we got to see him more and see where he would of gone, I feel his deck would revolve around Warrior Toolbox strategies with a small touch of luck thrown in via the Dice cards and keeping Fairy Box in.
He isn't a bad duelist. Just a bad deck builder.
Bad cards are bad cards. I hate when anime justifies bad cards for plot or character progression.
Irl you'd be laughed at tournaments if you tried that.
I mean, building the deck is 60% of a duelist job
@@soukenmarufwt5224 People like you make games unfun.
I honestly wish we could've seen Rishid duel more than once. The guy collected 12 locator cards in time to make the final rounds and even outplayed Jounouchi. I always rank him as a top 10 strongest duelist (without shenanigans).
Remember yugioh 5d Yusei versus Team Unicorn? Yusei had to lose the duel but plot armor kicked in….
I can't even remember that duel if I'm honest😅
@@Call_Me_Ky5 102
Nah man he talked no jutsu him and won
why does everyone drop "plot armor" are yugioh characters not allowed to have skill?
@@dantegallardo1974 wrong anime my dude
I like how beast of serket's body changes based on the monster it eats
That was really cool
8:11
Somewhat of a misplay:
Joey should have activated his Trunade BEFORE summoning
That way, he could've kept one monster to defend himself
I love these vids you have such a great way to explain this kind of stuff. Keep up the good work!
Glad you like them!
@@TGSAnimeJob well done. 💯
@@TGSAnimeWhen Joey drew Polymerization it made me think what it would be like if Jinzo, Insect Queen and Legendary Fisherman could fuse together. What would a Fusion Monster with those materials make if it was made today.
This just proves that far from depending on luck, Joey is the most unlucky duelist in the series. He identified Odion's trap deck immediately, but had to wait several turns before he could use shenanigans to search and summon Jinzo.
"Times changed" - TGS Anime
Me: Yeah, and those were the best of days.
Fun fact: There are similar patterns between this duel and the one against Yami Marik, in terms of traps and being close to victory
But one moment to highlight, against Yami Marik, Joey in the sub hopes to draw his “giant trunade” (hurricane) card to clear Marik’s field to win
But he fails to draw it and it’s a very rare moment to hear a character wish for a card we know is in their deck but fail to draw it, that I wish happened a bit more often
I think with the anime version of Temple of the Kings, its effect would probably go like this:
"Both players can only set two cards per turn while this card is face-up on the field. During your Main Phase, you can banish one monster in your hand. During your Main Phase, you can pay half your Life Points and tribute one monster on the field you control to Special Summon the monster banished by this effect. If a monster whose original name is "The Winged Dragon of Ra" is banished by this card's effect, your opponent cannot declare attacks, also monsters you control are unaffected by opponent's card effects."
That makes alot of sense and it's Ra support
Love how graverobver says ‘use it as your hand’ like your hand becomes the card
21:09 They might be more Trap monsters. It would make sense if he had more than just 3 Trap monsters, but because he has Serket out he doesn’t really need them.
This is the predecessor of Team 5Ds VS Team Unicorn: Where the enemy clearly won the duel if not for someone screwing up.
Funny you say that because I'm reminded of yigioh R where Joey does the same thing to a girl by calling her a coward
I mean TBF Marik has always had.God Tunel Vision so I doubt anybody would believe Odion was him if they knew he had it but chose not to use it, in fact the opposite might be the case.
And if Odion didn't have The fake Ra He wouldn't have had the Temple's Peotection, so Joe would have just used the whole Sword and Shield play to win anyways.
@@thekey0123kinda funny you mention that because in a past duel he used Sword and Shield in combo with Battle Warrior to win over Bonez. Peeps wonder why he kept battle warrior, he has a winning combo with it
@@TaiDZero wouldn't that combo work better with a monster like Little Winguard since it has both a higher attack, and deffense? Heck even Swordsman of Landstar has a slightly higher deffense.
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Ironically, Reiko also used a mill strategy for her Deck against Joey, much like Team Unicorn's whole team strategy was milling.
5D's vs. Unicorn is still one of the worst, most insulting Duels because of how it ends, IMO.
I have the answer to your Serket question
Unless the monster’s effect is negated, a ??? stat is adopted as the current base stat. So that stat is carried over with Shield And Sword
I used a setup with Tyranno Infinity equipped with Bashing Shield (which boosts ATK by 1000), and Shield And Sword. Tyrrano Infinity’s effect ATK became its DEF, so its DEF became banished cards times 1000. However the boosted ATK via Bashing Shield carried over to its changed ATK. Since its original DEF was 0, its new ATK became 0 + 1000 due to Bashing shield.
To summarize: the altered base stat (white numbers) becomes the new DEF
That being said, Serket’s stats would depend on whether its ATK and DEF are being boosted or being changed.
If the base stats are being changed (which is usually followed by the word “becomes”), then the 5825 ATK would swap with whatever its DEF number currently is.
If its effect was boosting its stats (Which is usually followed by the word “gains”), then Serket would basically just lose 2500 ATK since its original ATK and DEF swap, but the 3325 it gained would stay on its new ATK.
"You duel with honor," Joey said to the floodgate player.
That’s a weird effect of temple of the kings as, in the manga, that was the battle city rules, only one spell and one trap could be placed on the field each turn, and temple of the kings allowed Odion to set 2 traps a turn
It's much like Winged Dragon of Ra's "quick attack" effect because in the manga, special summoned monsters cannot attack the same turn they are summoned under normal circumstances.
I kinda think it's funny that during both Marik Joey summons Gearfried
He summons it against "Marik" at the start and actual Marik at the end of that one
Kinda weird
That's a connection I never made until now...
I notice Joey being in the semi final and final round of his Battle City tournaments feels more like Joey's survival mode than to play actual Duel Monsters card game
The last mystery card was definitely Graceful Dice. It wasn't a trap so he had no inclination to set it, and it wasn't a monster because of course he would have set it. He got Graceful Dice with no monsters on field for it to be boosted by.
It could have been a level 5 monster
@@BmanTheChampma opinion, should've been Skull Dice. Would have made the comment about emotional damage become real when Odion summons Fake Ra and Joey knowing traps are useless against a god card
It was very likely Gilford the Lightning, a card that had he received sooner would have won him the duel.
@@TaiDZero Not useless. They simply only work for one turn.
@@thewanderingmistnull2451 depends on the trap itself. As seen in the case of Kaiba duelin the mask duo originally where they attempted to use mirror force for obalisk to smash it n finish them off. But if im remebering correctly Kaiba also activated obalisk effect before attackin. I cant remember another time where one tried to use a trap aganist a god card though.
Lmao, I had just looked up yesterday for Odion summoning his fake copy of Ra and was disappointed in how little there actually was...which is when I also reminded myself of when you'd actually cover this one, especially with it being such a good duel other than the fact of it being the last of the four duels against the Gravekeepers in Battle City to cover, and would you look at that, here it finally is! Thank you for this, and keep up the great content!
The battle city arc was one of the best arcs in yugioh
I'm gonna say that last card Joey drew was Graceful Dice. Like an extra kick in the pants for deciding to use really weak monsters and adding garnets to his deck instead of literally any warriors with 800+ ATK (of which there are very, very many).
Makes you wonder how things would have went had Odion disobeyed and defeated Joey, perhaps just showing the fake card afterwards. Here, Marik probably maintains his sanity.Then youd have to wonder how well normal Marik would fair in his duels. There's a good chance he'd lose to Mai if he spends too long pretending to not have Ra in his deck as she only lost due to God Card tunnel vision, and he might lose anyway if his dueling is worse than Yami Mariks.
If you pause at 10:26 his Alligator Sword looks like a Pendulum monster! XD
There's also the point all the way on Joey's 3rd turn where he could have played Giant Trunade first to see if any traps were activated, THEN summoned his monster. The only thing that summoning first does is expose hyahusa knight to trap-based removal
Yeah but TBF he was probably expecting something like Mirror Force rather then Judgement of Anubis, and after Judgement of Anubis was activated that would have just made Joe more worried as if Odion protected his Backrow from a card that returned them to the hand then at least one of those cards could have been something just as dangerous as mirror force If not more so! At that point he probably wouldn't have attacked even with Hayabusa Knight, at least not for a couple more turns.
I though that a couple times. Had he kept Hayabusa Knight, he wouldn't have taken a direct attack from one of the Embodimebts of Apophis, those sword-wielding snakes nearly wiped out his LP.
@Lexgnzlz he would have tooken less damage, but that wouldn't have mattered too much since by the end, Odions monster would have been strong enough to one-shot Joe anyways.
@@thekey0123 Unless he had saved Monster Reborn in order to combine it with Sword and Shield. Joey shouldn't have played Insect Queen, Jinzo was as strong as her with no other Insects in play, also it bricked Odion's Trap Cards, so Monster Reborn should have been kept in his hand in case Odion found a way to defeat it.
It's ironic. Joey only won due to a technicality here. But only Marik beat Joey on a technicality.
There's one more similarity though. If either Odion or Marik had tried their best against Joey (aka not trying to keep a cover/ torment him), he'd never have a chance to win either of these duels.
Neat analysis video! Man, the sheer number of unknown cards in this duel.... They really didn't want to design/choose more cards for Odion, I guess?
Man, it's kinda funny that 2 of Joey's duels in Battle City ultimately came down to stamina.
I feel like another joey duel that would be a good duel analysis is his duel with rex in the Waking the Dragon Arc. Mainly because I noticed joey does a huge misplay with Panther Warrior
Consider why so many people have so many week monsters in their decks in the series. It's because there, you HAVE to either pull they cards from packs, will a prize card from a Duel, or have someone generous help you out. The individual card market seems to be really harsh here, as if the card economy is super tight.
I find Odion's gameplay interesting and really emphasize how DM era trap decks mindset, as you say, contains emotional damage. Side feedback too from your previous "what modern deck DM characters uses", Odion "indirectly" got support for Continuous trap decks with Qardan and Pharaonic Advent, so I'd say he would play trap monster + floodgate deck, with ace monster of Egyptian God Slime.
7:55 -It's fun you point this out with the Mai/Panic moment because she is acting as the one who just learned the lesson from him and accusing Yugi of messing up..but then in THIER duel she STILL hasn't learned her lesson since it is a bluff by Yugi that costs her the duel. She assumes his set card is a trap and focuses on destroying it over attacking. It's only then he reveals she would have won had she gone with her instincts and not second guessed. She also starts out by weoponizing phych out techniques, then being the victim of them..then thinking she is the expert ..then losing her big shot to them..she has a bit of a cycling character arch when it comes to emphasis on this aspect of the game in the first season.
I don't think it's what she ment and it's more she's talking from the fact she did the same thing to yugi but lost because sometimes 1 screw up can cost you the duel which it did since yugi bluffed
Let's be fair here Marik's plan was pretty risky and failed here, Since Odion plays a fake Rai the real Wing Dragon of Rai gets rightfully pissed off as a result... Well not only Joey won but Marik's evil self has been awaken.
20:50 Honestly knowing Kaiba he'd say something along the lines of "If you have the card then use it! What are you afraid of?!"
Joey uses weak monsters because it's all he can afford. He doesn't have billions of dollars like Kaiba and his grandpa doesn't own a game shop.
So that Duelist Kingdom money was EXACTLY how much he needed for Serenity's operation?
That's 3 million dollars in cash prize! How expensive is a trading card supposed to be?
If only he had some rare cards that don’t help his deck to trade or was friends with someone who’s grandpa owned a card shop
@@sacredband7089 Million yens.
Is it strange that anime and TV make me appreciate my Canadian healthcare even more?
This was an interesting duel. Thank you so much for analyzing it. Here are some future suggestions:
Aster Phoenix vs Jaden (round 2)
Aster Phoenix vs Adrian Gecko
Alister vs Kaiba (both rounds at once if possible)
Atem and Kaiba vs Lumis and Umbra
Jaden vs Darkness (season 4)
Again appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos. 🤠
It's amazing how odion has everything he needs to counter joey but in real world duels you don't get these kinds of hands
Anime land equals Infinite Consistency.
You never brick in anime land unless plot says so
20:18 Probably Legendary Sword. I was thinking Spider Roulette, but maybe this could have helped him, so idk
A minor misplay that I don't think affected much, but Joey summoning his monster before activating Trunade to check if Odion had any disruptions resulted in a big minus for him that could've been avoided
Well, I agree, but he couldn't summon 3 monsters at once, so he could have tried Trunade and then summoned Tiny Guardian in Defense, that would have walled Odion as his Trap monsters only had 1600 and TG had 1800 defense
@@RodimusMinor1987 If Joe activated Giant Trunade any earlier Even if it didn't get negated Odion would have just set his other Traps again, and Joe didn't know what Odion had so it was better in his eye's to go for game rather then to just deal alot of damage.
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Yeah it was a good plan,, but in modern day Yugioh, it is better to remove back row before summoning
@@RodimusMinor1987 Yeah it also would have made a huge difference if Judgement of Anubis worked like it's Irl counterpart like it does in later seasons.
Awesome analysis and congrats to ending the Battle City arc!
Really hoping we'll get to see a deep dive into the Big 5 duel at some point.
Kaiba disqualified Zigfried for using a fake name and said screw the rules i have money when Marik and Odion did it cuz they had Ra.
Kaiba wanted to see what Ra could do so he let it slide
Finally a new one! Ive gone over the playlist like 10 times now
Joey winning this duel because Odion passed out, then losing to Marik for the exact same reason is so ironic, and completely intentional. Lol
It's always funny seeing people go "Joey should have beat Marik! He lost because plot armor!" when the same thing happened in reverse when he dueled Odion.
For Joey's mystery card three options, one for each category:
Graceful/Angel Dice- pretty natural brick since he already lost the two main monsters to use it on.
Gearfried the Lightning- would be ironic given it was very close to winning him the duel against Marik, but at the same time he couldn't have played it.
Magical Arm Shield- neat card and effect, but he would have no means of activating it since you need to have a monster and your opponent needs to have two.
Joey would have won if he didn't summon Hayabusa Knight before using Giant Trunade. It can attack twice, so if he could have used it instead of Battle Warrior, he would have dealt 2400 + 1000x2+ 500 = 4900 damage. Hell, he wouldn't have needed Swordsman of Landstar because he could have dealt 4400 damage.
I was thinking the same
Excited for this big analysis video! Thanks a ton for uploading!
Might comment more later!
Probably Joey drew in his final turn Fortress Whale from Marko. He got that card from Marko and should use it. Would be funny :D And a good card as example for the duel
But he lacked the ritual spell for it
@@Limegreenedragon Thats the point xD He never got it
There’s a couple duels I’d like to see analyzed in this series. Those being Solomon Muto vs Joey Wheeler, the Exodia using Rare Hunter vs Yugi Muto, and Maximillion Pegasus vs Yugi Muto (this one can even be a double whammy with both the first encounter duel and the Duelist Kingdom Finals).
Kiaba vs yugi duelist kingdom the infamous bs fusion of mammoth graveyard and kaiba attempting to fall off the ledge
Maybe Gilford is the card Joey draws last. Would be ironic that he draws his new hidden boss monster, only to not be able to summon it.
Or could one of his dice cards given he can’t use either without monsters.
with this duel you have covered every single battle city finals duel
So if Odion tried to read the ancient Egyptian text on the fake Ra to further play up his role.
Mai would have seen it had a requirement and wouldn't have tried to take it from Marik in their duel.
I don't think marik knows the ancient text being there's no evidence of his lesser half using until his inner hatred came back. Just like when the lesser and bakura tried to duel the darker half and wasn't aware of instant attack and point to point.
@@UnsilencedOutspokenTikTok He does not know the chant, however he should know about the text. The chant appears when the card is put on the field, the literal card text is added
20:19 Probably Skull Dice or Graceful Dice, just to really rub it in
15:04 reminder that Joey is poor and he used his duel island winnings to pay for his sisters surgery. In fact the only new cards he was able to get that don’t involve the battle city ante rule were the cards he used against duke devlin.
I forget if we ever saw that duel all the way through but if we don’t that may be an interesting duel to analysis in the future.
F2P and still made it to top 4. Not bad.
@@rmtsapphire0 meanwhile, Seto was a massive P2W player
@@igorlopes8463and how.
He made sure he had the only BEWD in the world.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EPISODE FOR SO LONG OMG THANK YOU
I hope you do some Duel Analysis from the Duelist Kingdom arc in your videos someday
Was Joey about to Defeat Yugi?
Was Bandit Keith about to Defeat Joey?
Was Kaiba about to Defeat Pegasus?
Was Yugi about to Lose to Pegasus?
Problem with those is that Season 1 played with really vague rules.
Modern day retrain of Battle Warrior:
Fierce Battle Warrior
EARTH
Level 3
ATK/ 700 DEF/ 1,000
[Warrior/Effect]:
If this card is Normal or Special Summoned, you can target monsters, up to the number of warrior monsters on your field and in your GY: Switch the original ATK and DEF values of those targets as long as this card remains face-up on the field (monsters with no DEF value cannot be targeted). Once per turn (Quick Effect): Tribute 1 monster on either side of the field; This monster gains ATK equal to that monster’s Level/Rank/Link rating x300. You can banish this card from your GY: Shuffle up to 3 warrior monsters from your GY into your deck, then you can draw 1 card.
This has to be one of the worst duels of the franchise in retrospect. So many pass turns, a magical BS loss, Odion failing to see lethal, so many of Odion’s cards being mysterious/unknown, Joey bricking 2 turns in a row. Definitely one of the shows weakest entries in terms of writing imo
At this point we need a "I draw a mysterious card!" T shirt.
Do Yuma vs Nasch please. There was a point on the penultimate when Nasch could’ve won where he had Black Ray Lancer and Submersible Carrier Aero Shark. If he attacked with Aero Shark first and then Black Ray Lancer, Yuma with only 350 LP left and Utopia with 1600 ATK, Nasch would’ve dealt 500 damage to Yuma and won.
What do you think? I think it’s a great duel to analyse and the best one of Zexal.
He couldn’t have won that way. At that point, Utopia had one overlay unit. Yuma would have to tank the hit with Aero Shark, but he still would’ve used Utopia’s ability to deflect Black Ray’s attack keeping him at 50 LP like what basically happened but in reverse order.
Regardless, I absolutely agree for this duel to be analysed.
I think Zexal is avoided, and mainly for the better. Going over the possible plays in that series is an absolute nonsense, with *every single card* having a high school essay for an effect, multiple effects, and general "plotkai screw you, no my plotkai's stronger" bollocks being rampant. I've honestly tuned out when those duels have been covered because it just feels like drowning in XYZ era bs tbh xD
@@alexisauld7781well, he actually has already covered multiple post-5Ds fights. Including some from Zexal. But they are way less numerous than the ones for the first 3 series.
It‘s not like they are impossible to cover (since the fights themselves are still pretty simplistic all-in-all), but they certainly are a lot more annoying to „reverse-engineer“, so to say. You know, finding *the* play that would have won the duel
This duel can be summed up like this: (Joey): "I STOOD UP SO I WIN!"
0:12 name Rashid in Japanese version