More like debatable, are the nukes a justified thing and was killing crippled soldiers instead of wasting resources that could be used to win battles justified too?
@Commandelicious I don't know about official state ambassador, but there was a nazi party member that was put in charge of a safe zone in Nanjing and he did represent Nazi Germany in it. According to Wikipedia, he is credited to have saved at least 250 000 Chinese civilians and he used his position in the nazi party to delay Japanese advances and allow refugees to escape. There's also an example of such behaviour from the Japanese side, Chiune Sugihara. He was a vice-consul from Japan in Lithuania and he gave out and handwrote visas to Jews to let them escape. He issued thousands of visas and saved thousands upon thousands of people.
@@Commandeliciousi bet you believed this lady when she said "Americans didn't plan on slaughtering Germans" when the plan to liquidate 50,000 German officers after the war was leaked with the presidents signature on it. As a Philadelphian anyone who knows our history should see right through "the greatest generation propaganda" As in the US for patriots that will always be the revolutionaries, the yes men are our biggest threat.
@@Commandelicious it's real. Bro handed out Nazi arm bands to the Ambassadors of other countries so they could all walk around at night and stop grape with impunity. Japanese soldiers would see the Swastika and back the fuck off real fast.
natzis had concentrated brutality, and did way worse things, most natzis were just doing normal war stuff ,by the japanese the brutality was not as bad, but there were allot more brutal people
@@humility-righteous-giving talk about fucking bullshit. The japanese were way worse than the nazi's in terms of atrocities committed. You need to learn some history man, there was no army more evil during ww2 than the imperial japanese army. It was so evil unlike germany the japanese are still in denial of it to this day.
So which is it? Between the Laconia incident, and hundreds of reports of Germans actually being a beacon of hope during the war for non-Germans, what will you believe? Testimony, or state sanctioned educational materials and Hollywood?
THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT LIED TO ALL OF THEIR PEOPLE. THE SOLIDERS WERE MURDERED BY THEIR OWN SOLIDERS IF THEY TALKED OF SURRENDER. THE GOVERNMENT SAID AMERICANS WOULD HURT THE CITIZENS AND KILL ALL OF THEM IF THEY WERE CAPTURED, EVEN BABIES. THEY WERE TERRIFIED. A FEW THAT WERE CAPTURED OR FOUND WERE SO SURPRIZED BY THE COMPASSION THE AMERICANS HAD FOR THE PEOPLE. THE YOUNG SOILDERS SHARED CANDY AND PLAYED WITH THE CHILDREN. THEY WERE SO NICE TO THE LADIES AND THE BABIES AND GAVE THEM BLANKETS WHEN THEY WERE COLD. THEY GAVE THEM FOOD. THIS WAS NOT WHAT THE JAPANESE WERE TOLD. MY MOTHER WAS A CHILD WHEN THE WAR WAS GOING ON AND SHE AND HER FAMILY SUFFERED TREMENDOUSLY DURING THE WAR. NO FOOD, HER HOME BEING BOMBED, HER SCHOOL LUNCHES BEING STOLEN EVERYDAY. PLUS, HER FATHER DIED IN A WORK ACCIDENT AND HER MOTHER WAS A SINGLE MOTHER TAKING CARE OF FIVE CHILDREN AND TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. MY JAPANESE GRANDMOTHER WAS NOT ALLOWED TO WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME, SO SHE DID EVERYTHING INSIDE, ANYTHING. EVEN MAKING LITTLE BOUQUETS OF FLOWERS FOR MY MOM TO SELL ON THE STREET. SOME GEISHA LADIES BOUGHT THEM FOR THEIR HAIR. THEY KNEW MY MOTHER BECAUSE MY GRANDFATHER TOOK MY MOM WITH HIM TO BUSINESS MEETINGS. MY MOTHER MARRIED AN AMERICAN AND MY SISTER AND I WERE BORN. WAR IS HORRIBLE WITH SO MANY LIVES LOST. 😢💔. NO ONE IS SPARED.
Egoless ______ is a change in mindset from the late 80s and 90s. Anyone with an ego in an professional env is still a child. Do not tolerate it; "Don't feed the trolls."
The amount of guessing online stated as fact which people then read and repeat as such to others is rapidly lowering the IQ of the human race. Despite there being no apparent benefit to this behavior it's extremely pervasive.
I had a Chinese teacher in my community college in riverside, CA. He said that during the war his very first memory in his life was a Japanese samurai warrior standing over him and chopping off his lower leg on one leg. He said the Japanese did this to many of the Chinese little kids. He was taken to a doctor to survive and eventually was able to get a surgery and a prosthetic. He was my science teacher but he was an amazing artist and took us to his studio the last day of class. He had painted a huge 8ft painting of the samurai warrior w his blade coming down at the viewer, from the angle a small child would have. It was scary and chilling to see his nightmares painted out. The teacher also did murals at our school and started learning dance w his prosthetic, even tho he was in his 70s. ❤
My uncle was a foot soldier in WWII. He never lived out of institutions or recovered emotionally. He chain smoked and had the most eerie smile I've ever seen.
John Rabe Nazi Ambassador to Nanking said; "I wanted to see these atrocities with my own eyes, so that I might speak as an eyewitness later. A man cannot keep silent about this level of cruelty." I repeat. A *Nazi* Ambassador. Shocked by cruelty.
Germans were not knee deep at war at this point. It just goes to show how simple people are. Most things iscalated in steps for germans too. Amd non of these empires were nice cointries. Its just they all had different victims
You’ve seen too many Hollywood movies and read too few firsthand history books. The Nazis weren’t the villainous caricatures they’ve been made out to be. By military standards they were abnormally chivalrous. Try reading about Luz Long some day, the Nazi Olympian who befriended the black American Olympian Jesse Owens and remained pen pals with him throughout the war. Their story and his final letter are infamously at odds with what the movies tell us the Germans were like: “I am here, Jesse, where it seems there is only the dry sand and the wet blood. I do not fear so much for myself, my friend Jesse, I fear for my woman who is home, and my young son Karl, who has never really known his father.” ”My heart tells me, if I be honest with you, that this is the last letter I shall ever write. If it is so, I ask you something. It is a something so very important to me. It is you go to Germany when this war done, someday find my Karl, and tell him about his father. Tell him, Jesse, what times were like when we not separated by war. I am saying-tell him how things can be between men on this earth.” ”If you do this something for me, this thing that I need the most to know will be done, I do something for you, now. I tell you something I know you want to hear. And it is true.” ”That hour in Berlin when I first spoke to you, when you had your knee upon the ground, I knew that you were in prayer.” “Then I not know how I know. Now I do. I know it is never by chance that we come together. I come to you that hour in 1936 for purpose more than der Berliner Olympiade.” ”And you, I believe, will read this letter, while it should not be possible to reach you ever, for purpose more even than our friendship.” ”I believe this shall come about because I think now that God will make it come about. This is what I have to tell you, Jesse.” “I think I might believe in God.” “And I pray to him that, even while it should not be possible for this to reach you ever, these words I write will still be read by you.” “Your brother, Luz” This was written by a man who gave the Nazi salute from the winners podium after winning the silver medal at the Berlin Olympics. Standing right next to him on the taller podium was Jesse Owens who had taken the gold medal. If that salute meant what we’re taught it meant then he wouldn’t have done it while standing next to Jesse during his finest moment of glory You’ve been lied to. About a lot.
Nanjing massacre was in 1937. War didn't come to Europe until 1939, N*zi massacres started 1941 (ex. Babi Yar), formal intent on extermination (Wannsee Conference) was by 1942... So yea, Germans in 1937 saw what they saw, and hadn't seen what was to be yet.
Germany was friendly to the Nationalist Chinese government at the time since they both have fascist regimes. Germany actually supplied the Chinese with weapons and even sent a WW1 veteran general to help train the Chinese troops. All that changed after Germany allied with Japan and became the Axis powers.
It's the kind of phrasing that gets our attention. She was telling the other speaker " well, if you want to make this a silly number game, let's play". I caught it as well.
While I agree it’s an atrocity, you have no idea what the Japanese soldier thought about it. Their culture and views on service and on death are completely different than anywhere else on the planet, and especially different from a westerner’s.
Same with the Armenian genocide....the Germans could not loose Turkish support but were highly appalled by the genocide being committed...of course far right Islamic ultranationalist theocrat fascist Erdostooge acts like this never happened....
@@samstromberg5593 Yeah, that was a very good way to make it clear she was expressing her informed opinion as a historian, with the caveat that she cannot categorically state that she is certain it is completely, fully accurate.
The superiors in the japanese army blamed most of their failures to the troops "lack of morale" instead of acknowledging flaws in tactics or logistics. They put much more importance to the "guts" of the soldier than logistics or technology that led to many soldiers dying of disease and starvation at the pacific war. There is this quote by tojo hideki when he visited a school and said to the students, "you dont shoot thw enemy with your gun but with your guts! A steel mentality is stronger than technology" and If you look at the battle of okinawa, many civilians were killed by the japanese army for attempting to surrender to the americans. I think japans lack of regard to their own citizens lives is what allowed them to commit so many atrocites to other nations.
TBH much of the Japanese politics and military doctrines of the 1918-45 period was just dumb. It's not a place to elaborate on this, but seriously, so many bad decisions due to jingoism, saving face or firm belief that numbers are less important than a nation's morale. And so on and on and on.
@@mysteriousdemon5706I don't know what this is in response to. Since it makes no sense. But there is nothing wrong with his statement. So just take the L on this and move on buddy
They were as brainwashed as the North Koreans or russians of today. They committed atrocities because they were told that is what their enemies would do to them, and another reason so few surrendered. When the USA occupied Japan after the war, we helped develop/set up their TV stations with multiple companies to prevent a monopoly on information like there was with the radio there.
@@lerui2820every history class I’ve been in has explained in detail about the war crimes america committed from agent orange to the fire bombings, Japan is the only nation that refuses to acknowledge their crimes and always plays the victim
As a Japanese person, the atrocities were horrific of course, but on a totally side note, at least the Germans treated their returning vets with some dignity. Japan totally abandoned and ignored their crippled (and even able bodied) young men who were DRAFTED into war for the nation. There were plenty of scenes of returning veterans begging for food because their own COUNTRY didn't bother trying to help them when they (as young men) were conscripted into military service. At least Nazi Germany HELPED their returning vets. As a vet myself (an American) but also of Japanese Descent, this is one of the most shameful things the government did to their own people. The best thing for Japan was to be defeated by the Americans. They learned many things, including veteran's rights, civil rights, a democratic system that lessened the class system (with time). I think being exposed to American ideals was a benefit to the Japanese people (in the post war years).
I think the Japanese benefitted immensely having been defeated in the war, and their culture was allowed slowly reach back to its roots over time... And Americans who have been exposed to Japanese culture have benefitted immensely also, as it has tended to be a culture of gentle humility & humbleness
Never heard so much Bs and lies in a short videos like this.... Only Americans can belive this fairy tales and straight up propaganda.... Any European who first of all studied history, but who has grandparents and relatives who suffered the war themselves, knows very well that there has never been a more brutal and evil army than the German army.... the Soviets were saints in comparison.... and this is told by someone who had my grandfather's brother who fought against the Russians and suffered Nazi reprisals.... Schools fail you.... Japanese people are even more ignorant about history than Americans... Please talk about anime and pokemon and please leave history topics to people with culture and memory
My brother in law talked about his family being lined up with the males on 1 side and females on the other. One of the oldest male was beheaded by the Japanese soldiers in front of everyone. One of the brothers was so traumatized that he ran off into the forests and was never heard from again. My female coworker (whole lot older than me) talked about their mother smearing the young girls’ faces with poop so they would smell bad and not be raped by the Japanese soldiers. My own mother was the oldest of the four siblings and was a very young girl during the war. She was trained by my grandmother to pick up the youngest sibling , the second oldest to pick up the third and to run into the forest whenever the Japanese soldiers raid their town. It brought my mom’s siblings closer to each other since they saw death marching into town at an early age. This explained why my mom would be so happy whenever her youngest sibling visited her at our house. He was always welcome to sleep in our already overcrowded house every time he visited .
Wow! What a remarkable story. I’m happy to hear of your mother and other family members who bravely survived the hardships of that horrific conflict, and I’m glad that you’re able to be here with us today, my friend. If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the nationality/ethnicity of you, your mother, and her family? Where were they during the war?
@@anatoliy8212 ah yes, Ruskies are the greatest sympathisers to Japanese on social media. Never mind that they would have done much worse to the Japanese. Even the Japanese knew that the Russians would beat them in cruelty.
My grandfather's sister was married to a Japanese who fled the country as to not fight in the war, that man was completely abandoned by all of his blood for "dishonor" of not believing in what they were doing and still he never show and inch of regret, used to say we were his real family, always felt bad for him
One of my closest friends here, Mr. Tanaka, is a retired high school English teacher who told me when was nine, his father took him to Tokyo for the first time. They came over a hill and saw it in the distance. The city was on fire. Mr. Tanaka went on to attend college in the US. He loves America. Figure that one out. His experience is not uncommon. The friendliest people I've met here were survivors of WWII. Another retired teacher friend told me he saw a black man for the first time in the occupation and didn't know what he was. He was scared to death. The Black American soldier, smiled and gave him a chocolate bar. He never forgot it. And decided to visit that man's country and study English after that. He wasn't even eight years old yet. Nothing is what you think it will be. That's one thing I've learned here in Japan. Don't be surprised to be surprised. Cheers from Tokyo!
The Japanese are responsible for their WW11 agonies. My father was from Onomichi. My mom remarried him when he was in the states & he adopted me. Onomichi is right over the hill from Hiroshima.
There's a shrine in Okinawa called the Himeyuri Shrine that is dedicated to a class of HS girls that was conscripted by the Japanese army to be nurses during the siege of Okinawa. Over 200 girls forced down into the caves to assist with wounded and dying. You can read the reports of the 20 someodd survivors who detailed how they were given cyanide laced milk to give to wounded soldiers, who would then curse them out as they succumbed to the poison. Then there's the whole "telling the Okinawan civilian population that the US army would rape and murder them when they arrived," which led to tens of thousands committing suicide en mass in order to stave off the US atrocities that never happened. There's a reason why the Okinawan's assisted the US military in finding and capturing the mainland Japanese army regulars who tried to blend into the population after the war (but didn't know the local dialect, and as such were captured with the locals help.)
Holy shit. I did not know that. Thank your learnin me somethin today. Heavy as fuck. Great idea for a movie, show or anime. Damn. Those poor girls, can't imagine the guilt.
While not at the same level as the Japanese, the Nazi or Soviet, Americans soldiers also did commit atrocities to Japanese soldiers to some extent, mainly due to the dehumanizing American anti-Japanese propaganda (akin to the Nazi propaganda about the Russian at the time) The worry that a Japanese civilian or POW would get mistreated, murdered and have their body part kept as trophies wasn't unfounded, and was used in return as propaganda by the Japanese Government to picture Americans as blood thirsty barbarians. EDIT: add tot that that the Shinto belief on the impact of a body remains to the soul in the afterlife also explain why the "body part collection" was considered especially barbaric by the Japanese population.
@@marshelmatters5696 you for sure should learn history in school, but in order to learn history, you need to have a healthy amount skepticism of the source, inside and outside school/media.
unfortunately this is never taught in Japanese schools and Japan has never officially acknowledged the rape of nanking, Germany is the only country that has ever had to shame their history
Wanna know something weird? At the same time, when the Japanese fought the Chinese and treated them worse than dogs, and the Germans fought us, Poles, and treated us the same as the Japanese treated the Chinese, the Japanese not only did not accept our declararion of war, but more so, accepted our refugees and declared that they would never trust Hitler again, after what he had done to Poland. Both of the axis countries commited horrible crimes against humanity, both sided with the people who's ally was deliberately exterminating, and yet none of them showed a sliver of remorse to the ones they were annihilating.
dude wow that is actually super weird wtf, thanks for sharing. My guess is that the Japanese outrage was projection because they convinced themselves their own atrocities were “justified”
And I love how Poles really love A.H. on Tiktok Euroid propaganda videos lmao I have seen countless Slavs loving him and his ideologies even though they treated the Slavs worst than a dog during ww2
As a Pole, I would like to thank you for these words that commemorated my fallen ancestors. We will never be able to recover from some wounds, but memory and truth are the most important
@@joejohnson3814 yes, it was the poles fault that germany invaded poland, france, russia, and the rest of europe. Just like how its Ukraines fault that russia invaded, georgia, chechnya, and ukraine.
We initially tried high altitude precision bombing over Japan but discovered the jet stream existed and going against it depleted the bombers fuel. Thus we had to go to lower altitude bombing which meant we had to do it at night to help conceal the bombers from AA fire and that meant we couldnt see the targets which meant the only option to hit strategic targets was to firebomb it because it was all largely wood construction and that would spread to take out the targets even if they werent directly hit.
@@Penitent_Intent so you're suggesting no books resulting in more stupid people? i can tell you havent read that many, give your head a damn shake...trees get replanted dork
My grandpa fought as a guerilla in the Philippines. He said they were so mad at what the Japanese did to their women, children and their whole village, that whenever they were able to capture a few japanese soldiers, they would skin them alive and tie them up to a tree naked with their uniforms on the ground. They would strategically place these bodies where japanese regiments would pass in order to scare them. He said they were very small men in physical stature but were a tough enemy because they were so fanatical.
It doesn't tell the whole story at all.The USA always was and is still more brutal than any country in the world.More blood thirsty and more murderous.The russians did what they had to do because they were being attacked by germany
A lot of people don’t know this so I will share it here . When I was younger I heard a man speaking , telling how he survived when the “A” bomb hit his city . He was a young boy and his parents found one of the warning leaflets that the Americans dropped ahead of time . His dad took it seriously and fled with his family to the countryside. He said they survived starvation by eating bugs because there was very little food where they fled to.
An anecdote that is often and unfortunately left out of the history books. He could have been executed for fleeing since the Japanese ordered that those stationed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki remain in their homes and continue working. They literally condemned their own people to nuclear annihilation. Imo, you have to be historically illiterate or morally benighted to say that the United States was in the wrong.
If you read Unbroken it is mentioned that on August 15th all allied prisoners except comfort women were to be executed. The invasion of Japan would have been a blood bath and probably would have ended up with a divided Japan with a Russian north and an American / British south. Just like Korea.
@@robertagren9360 Here is a better documented quote which has relevance in our country " I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this-who will count the votes, and how : said in 1923; Boris Bazhanov The Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary (1992); see Stoppard
@@chadwhitman1811 That Stalin never said it makes it very little truthsaying and what the propaganda machine want people to believe is just as much voting with newspaper.
@castleanthrax1833 she/he said that there were 9m casualties just to pump up she/his narrative(bad russia), but there were 5.5m/6m from whom 3m were Jews.
@@stefanmitrovits6258 Yes... I watched the video too. Unfortunately, you can't answer a question that I asked someone else. As for the disparity in numbers; fallibility is a human condition. Even for experts.
Not to be "that guy" but I find it so ironic that in the context of literal human genocide... In the middle of a graphic detailing of wanton, horrendous acts of inhumanity, they felt the need to sensor the word "cr**ple." I mean, it's likely because of the algorithm's stipulations on creators, but still. And while it may be well-meaning, and it certainly isn't the the worst thing in the world, I just think it's instructive of where we are as a culture.
Nothing to do with anyone's culture. UA-cam belongs to a mega corporation. It's easier for them to automate stuff than pay someone to make sensible decisions.
@@user-ek4ic2ip9e somebodies feeling might get hurt as we discuss a historic event of the mass genocide of an entire generation worldwide. we can't have that.
My grandfather was a Marine who survived the first days of Saipan. The only things he openly hated were Japanese and Douglas MacArthur. The stories he told about these people were bone chilling.
@@Allmotorzl1 , Because he was a camera loving showman that got his friends killed for his glory. On the contrary he thought Nimitz was the greatest leader of the war. It’s a long story but Douglass almost didn’t survive a Saipan friendly fire incident. The marines hated him.
@@Allmotorzl1 Douglas MacArthur also butchered the defense of the Philippines in 1941.The Japanese fully occupied the islands by summer of 1942. Good ol' Douglas came back in '45 though and that was apparently good enough for the Filipino people to forget about him abandoning them.
Like what? Share some of his stories. That is a part of History that doed not get put in the History books. We should all know the truth. Carry fown the tradition.
My grandmother who witnessed entire WW2 as Polish peasant said that once the slavery of German occupation ended and the soviets moved in, they missed the Germans xD Total animalistic behaviour, savagery of soviet troops was unmatched.
@@whereismycup I don't see how anyone but Batman could make the Bat-bomb. Googling it though, what an absolutely silly idea. Some R&D department in the 1940's must have all been on coke.
@@quineloe It's MeiLai and the entirety of the Vietnam conflict is incredibly complex and to smooth brain simplification of "Murica mad war crime..." is just hamfisted argument based on "fweewings," and not fact. Have you ever fought an insurgency? Have you ever been shot at, watched close friends rendered into a wet pulpy mass? Then have the enemy hide among women and children so as to use your own rules of engagement against you? Hell, have you ever experienced violence greater than being wedgied and stuffed in a locker? War is hell, absolute hell and a guerilla war is the lowest level of hell. Imagine how long it would take your sanctimonious self righteous ass to snap day after day, month after month. It's easy to cast judgement when you've lived a safe, privileged and sheltered small life you become ignorant of the dirtyness it takes to keep war from your doorstep.
Not really. It was about selling the war. If you tell people that every war is the ruler killing them they will not want to join the war as wounded soldiers are propaganda.
It was about honor. They couldn't go home crippled or defeated because it would bring dishonor to the family. So they had to commit seppuku in order for their family honor to be preserved
@@kingpet Going to war, fighting, getting wounded, and returning home is dishonorable? So much so I must end my own life to protect my family from the "shame"....? Yea that sounds like a pretty low regard for one's life like the comment said lol
It’s a miracle Poland has survived to this day she has been so poorly treated throughout history. My family immigrated at the turn of the 19th century they probably saw how bad it was getting.
@McHallel dafuq - Poland and its civilian population was literally decimated in the first nine months of WW2 after being invaded by Germany and then Russia - they never had an option to be on "any side
@@McHallel Wrong side of WHAT? Man, you need to explain that. Attacked by the Germans and occupied. Attacked by the Russians and occupied. Whose side did they ever have a chance to BE on???
@@shangurila7they could’ve invaded the homeland but would’ve costed millions of Americans lives. But they could just drop 2 bombs and kill around 250k ppl
@@shangurila7 You dont know what your talking about. Im not on that tower either, but I have talked to people whos profession it is to know. It comes down to: If you dont have all the context your analysis is going to be basic and flawed.
To put the attitude of Japan’s command in perspective. One IJA general said a Japanese soldier’s life is worth less than the postage to send the draft notice.
@@BelugaChonkyThey lost cuz they got nuked twice 🤣 Japan was formidable and scary as fuck to fight. Most soldiers prayed they got sent to fight the Germans over the Japanese. They killed themselves when they failed missions, didn’t take prisoners, and with so much nationalism they were happy to die for their country. I’m not saying they would have won the war, but without the nukes they would have kept fighting for a long time and millions more would have died.
@@moehaymed9567 no i mean the Japanese were often careless with thier recourses and man power they put themselves in a stupid position and got all Their carriers sunk and have a history of incompetence
My grandma is a polish jew. She escaped the massacre by travelling through forests. Apparently she used her beauty to get men to help her along the way she said she had to sleep with some gross men. She made it to England and then finally Canada.She said she had no ptsd and was proud she did what she had to do.
I just saw the interview of a New Zealander who came to Japan in the 60's with his newborn son. Australians travelling with him on the same boat told him Japanese eat babies....
My uncle served in the Australian air force, he was a navigator on board a lancaster bomber, he took part in the bombing of dresden, his bomber was shot down afterwards, and the german civilians tried to kill him and his crew mates with farm tools, for the last 6 months of the war he and all the other p.o.w's were force marched north to be used as shields, i was told by my mother as a child not to ask him about it to much as he had been tortured down to him being the navigator and he had bombing runs memorized.
We may never know how truly vicious and callose the Imperial Japanese military was capable of being. Until I started searching for that information and asking veterans about it no other source had even mentioned it. One of the Batan Death March survivors even came back after his rehabilitation and lived out his life in my home town and no one ever mentioned him to us when we were kids. Our new VA medical Center is named after him. Abie Abraham
its sad how little we care about Japans warcrimes and other terrible acts commited to china during that time period. i swear we undermine what happened inside russia and inside china and if i had to bet its because both countries went communist. I mean both countries lost more then the jews as a religion did over three times the amount which is crazy and yet you never here a single thing about the genocides commited in either.
@@kyekruchoski1457 We don't care so much about the actions of the Japanese because Comrade Mao outclassed them in the number of Chinese he sent 6 feet under... And Comrade Mao is still on all Chinese banknotes and no one in China has a problem that there were years when, for example, zero children were born because the party had such a whim!
Well take a look at the US military....pretty much the same thing except they use propaganda to deny the things they do....we are the new Germany....or Japanese military....
@@kyekruchoski1457Americans are much more closely tied to Western Europe that Eastern. And at that time had very little respect or knowledge of Japan or China. But I i think the biggest factor was that the Soviets and Chinese were portrayed as evil godless Commies. They weren't seen as individuals, but as The Red Menace. A campaign to recognize them as individual humans that suffered horribly from our mutual enemies was not compatible with Cold War propaganda and public sentament.
@@kyekruchoski1457 You don't. But the Chinese all do. They lost 10% of their population getting Taiwan back in WW2. History is important, else you'll never understand why there is no way you can convince them to let go.
It honestly makes them seem so much worse. Its a little morbid but I could kind of understand it if they were just xenophobic but to turn on your own people in such a terrible way...
I heard a lecture once saying that once Germany capitulated and the GI’s started making their way from France into Germany that the Americans preferred the German populace to the French. They thought the French were haughty and liked the Germans better.
Americans - so rewde!!! Sometimes I weesh we 'ad nevaire conquaired there ancestairs in Britehn! Vive la France! Vive la France! Jerry Lewis! Jerry Lewis!
I had a great uncle who was an engineer in Europe during the War, specializing in telecommunications. He said tapping into the French telephone lines was an utter nightmare. The German ones were incredibly easy. Just plug in and you’re good to go.
I've read that the US army liked the Germans better bc rather than sit in the rubble, they would start picking it up and trying to make order of it all again.
She avoids responding to the firebombing deaths by telling us how terrible the Japanese were to each other. The type of question avoidance is very telling. She doesn’t want to accept any wrongdoing by the allied forces.
The ruin of man is themselves whether it be greed or dominance.. either way the human is a parasite and our subconscious goal or meaning of life is to ravage every possible sustainable resource this planet has to offer then if we cant find another before this one is barren then we will populate and destroy another until there is no more sustainability.. then we cease to be.
@@mustardbiscuits9750 It's still about who's left. Every conflict is a struggle between right and right, but that's not what polpan was commenting here. Ultimately, it's about who's left, because they're the ones who will have to deal with it.
My Mom's town in South Holland was liberated by British & Polish troops. The past Nazis in her town were Hitler Youth. They surrendered to the Allies peeing their pants literally, believing what their superiors told them that they'd be executed. The British & Polish soldiers didn't execute them.
Being crippled placed a load on the family. Prosthetics as we know them now, along with "Plastic Surgery" advanced during and after the war. There were few medical supplies and All Food was expected to be used by the "Able" to advance the Gov't's Aims. As the war continued Supplies of All types became scarce due to Submarine actions. No Supplies meant No Ships for Transportation of Wounded or even Able Troops.
I was impressed by Robert McNamara's documentary called "The Fog Of War" when McNamara told Curtis Lemay that the Americans would be war criminals for fire bombing wooden Japanese cities if the U. S. lost the war. I think this video provides a context for American action that McNamara left out.
Yeah? And Japan lost yet weren't made war criminals for the atrocities they committed. Even to this day Japan makes Jim crow look like the he man woman haters club. (Little rascals.)
Was that bobs way of working out some sort of justification in his head, by linking ww2 with vietnam? And how its all " going south" bob was crunching numbers in a safe hamlet of his own opposite side the planet.
Not really as a war crime is considered to be the torture or killing of innocent people, burning a city which is pretty much all civilians is a war crime, just like Dresden.
“Can you imagine how the Japanese soldiers felt about this.” The probably thought it was for the glory of the emperor, rationalizing it with their twisted sense of duty and honor. My grandfather was stationed in the pacific during WW2. He saw kamikaze pilots firsthand. This made him forever bigoted against them. They fought with such reckless disregard for the sanctity of life and honor. The atrocities committed by the Japanese soldiers, especially to the Chinese and Koreans, do not so easily go away, even if my grandfather’s generation is going away.
Lies. Google Poland State Department, WW2 deaths. At most 3 million ethnic Poles died. Scholars estimate that of Poland's pre-war population of approximately 35,100,000 inhabitants, between 5.5 and 6 million people lost their lives during World War II (WWII), among them approximately three million Jews.
Nobody really talk about how brutal Japanese were to Korean people too. Too many to list but one of them was taking hundred of thousands of young korean females for "comfort" women. At times when they ran out of food they would kill them and eat them..
.. people do my guy. It's not being swept under the rug or some shit. It's just among so much shit in history that anyone can isolate something horrible that happened that "isn't being talked about 'enough' " but that doesn't mean anything.. It's impossible to be on the up and up with every atrocity in history unless you're a fuckin history major lmao.
@@Alex1710931 and vice versa. Chinese have been horrible to all their neighbours. Still are - Uighurs story today. Koreans and Japanese had been horrible to their neighbours. It all goes around in that part of the world. If they don't forgive each other and don't do better, it will continue every few decades forever.
German POWs were brought to my Great Grandpa's farm in Tulare, CA. The POWs picked cotton and worked on the farms as laborer. When the war was over the POWs begged to stay. They didn't want to go back.
@@kszymorNo, it's more they didn't wanna go back to a bombed out hole. I doubt Germans would do much to former german soldiers. There were plenty of them around after the war that weren't POWs that were treated just fine.
There is actually a video on the diary of a German POW. He went over a lot of various things. They never begged to stay, but they were unsure of what they would be going home to. Many didn't know if their families had survived and wanted to know who had control over their home town, the Soviets or one of the other nations.
@@andrzejadamowicz3753 Not sure what you're asking, but what is or isn't a war crime is decided by the side that wins the war. Murder 100,000 civilians in a single night, but then you win the war? Magically....not a war crime.
war itself could be considered a war crime. The term war crime is a joke. could all the bombing be? sure, but welcome to war, collateral damage. war doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left
@@IanHobday 1. Tokyo was not an open city. It was an industrial centre, producing all kinds of military equipment making it a legitimate target. 2. There was no precision bombing in 1940s, that could target only military targets. 3. It is not USAF fault that Tokyo was made mainly from wood and paper. 4. How do you know (I could not find it, so feel free to point, to a source on that) that it was purly for vengeance?
I used to pity Japanese as well. But then you learn about what they were actually like and you get the impression that allies were way too kind. 10-20 million dead Chinese civilians, that rivals national socialists in Europe yet no one in the west usually talks about that.
One of the smartest comments . Easy to look back in hindsight and see what you think is obvious . Now use what you learned to recognize the next global war. It’s right at our doorstep as we speak . But it’s fought on many more fronts with non traditional weapons that you can hardly tell you’re already in it.
Think bioweapons such as lab made viruses, global system vs nation states , states against their own people , social reengineering , propaganda at its highest levels via social media , cultural disparity wars, kleptocracy combined with technology at all time highs between governments and corporations , monopolies of supply chain control, extremely high enforceable financial compliance measures on individuals all in the name of seeking out criminals which are rarely caught , increasing taxes, absolute power granted to health authorities in times of crisis and a framework for tagging humans. It goes on.
My grandads brother was a Japanese p.o.w. 50-yrs later, he just kept crying his heart out. Christmas day dinner as well. What can you do to someone to make them cry, 50+ years later ??? 😢💔
He was propably forced to kill other POWs, maybe his pals Maybe had been forced to do involountary intercourse with bamboo that grows rapidly. (Certain species of bamboo can grow 91 centimetres (36 inches) within a 24-hour period, at a rate of almost 40 millimeters (1+1⁄2 in) an hour (equivalent to 1 mm every 90 seconds). Growth up to 120 centimeters (47.6 inches) in 24 hours has been observed in the instance of Japanese giant timber bamboo). Also he could have been forced to observe how Japanese soldiers treat wounded and sick people when raiding hospitals. Also there was no mercy for priests, doctors and certainly nurses had been treated the worst as females. They were used by soldiers until death or until they could still have an intercourse. After that stripped naked and beheaded.
@@samaepl I think the bamboo thing was a way to kill a person, unless they cut off the bamboo on both sides, slide it out of wherever and get surgery to mend him. Not happening to a POW of the Japanese.
It was considered an honor, dying for their country and Emperor. They couldn't deal with the family honor being shakes if they came back to their family wounded.
@@igetom I can give you my version of what my Chinese mother in law told me she witnessed Japanese soldiers do to babies which was kill them with a bayonet. She and her village were starved. She witnessed babies and young people die of starvation and pneumonia. She and her mother in law shared the rice they bought with money sent to them by my father in law and his father to prevent starvation in their village. The family immigrated to the US under a death warrant by the CCP.
Nothing supports the initial statement. It’s always like this with this woman. She gives frankly absurd propagandist level takes Then gives a bunch of correct facts that have nothing to do with the initial claims
She is right tho. US didn't want to massacre German people. US wanted to Massacre Japanese civilian people by dropping 2 atomic bombs on a cities. So she is not wrong on German part.
It's an "absurdist propagandist level take" to say the United States wasn't going to participate in massacring people??? So, do we have to all assume genocidal intent as a baseline for normal behavior to satisfy you? Don't misplace the burden of proof if you want to make a valid argument.
what about this is wrong? I am german, do you think in 1945 germans were fleeing from the eastern front toward the british/american army to surrender to them because they just preferred to be massacred by english speakers? or might it have something to do with the fact that they were nowhere as genocidal as stalin or hitler
Don't forget, before the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan was training its CHILDREN on how to use bamboo spears in preparation for a US land invasion.
Well that sounds like a load of bullshit. Don’t forget, the USA were facing defeat in the pacific against a fierce opponent who would not surrender so they literally dropped a nuclear bomb on the civilian population. One atrocity does not outweigh another.
@shoshanna8475 Luckily, in today's world it's rather easy to refute such claims, as anyone can watch the propaganda Hamas openly broadcasts to indoctrinate their youth, in the form of the Children's TV show "Tomorrow's Pioneers", often called "The Palestinian Disney Channel."
@@GB-vn1tf Nationalist: "a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports it's interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations." Imperialism: "the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas" By all accounts of history, these practices actually go quite hand to hand with each other. Nothing is more Imperialistic than a true Nationalist at war, so how you keep your backhanded comments to yourself 🤝
@@azorith6779 imperialist. Try defining what i said instead of what you incorrectly thought. Youve explained nothing but your ignorance. Stop copying and pasting. Its an embarrassment to intelligence. I'll give my opinion on a public forum honest. Try it.
@azorith6779 I agree; I also think that they had a large traditions and influences from bushido ethics of centuries past. We can see this in Bonzai charges and to a more limited extent Seppuku. AKIRA IRIYE has a great quote: "Japan is a unique country unlike any other country that can do things that no other country can do, and things like that. And this sense of uniqueness is combined with the Emperor worship. Again this is rather a recent origin: in the 1870s and 1880s the government decided to rally national opinion around the image of the Sacred Emperor." Being a wounded soldier and serving the Emperor and country with you death by not becoming a burden is certainly not something that I think they would have shunned or even feared.
The russians took five thousand polish military officers of all ages in two a forest and machine gundam... After the war...Katyn. Polish citizens who lived in england and fought with england were all forced to go back By agreement with the soviets and were executed. That's why poland doesn't play games today.
They’ve also been subjugated by the Russians since what 1790 and have had their freedoms and autonomy plucked away by Russians over the years until 1917 - 1939 when they were an independent country.
Hey, you, effin propaganda agent, you ok there? Katyn was one of many topics on Nuremberg trials. And it was proven that Wermacht is to blame for these atrocities. And here you are denying the Nuremberg trials. Effin brainwashed ppl, I can't
@@mtman2oh no, 20000 of military personell executed after war to prevent possible resistance and unnecessary obstruction in the coming war, thats terrible! What did you say? Soviet union lost 36 million people, hundreds of towns and villages completely destroyed? Aah, who cares, they are commies anyway
Winners tell the story, no one will trial the allies for their war crimes and mass murder. The soviets, americans and brits have a lot of innocent blood on their hands
There are atrocities in every war because, inevitably, there is one group that refuses to abide by the rules of war and to combat that, at times, you have to be as ruthless to defeat it.
@@thebowtiechaplain3399 THE FACT is the US has the manner that ALWAYS, where ever they military goes, the US government DEMMAND that their troops HAS IMMUNE LEGALY STATUS for ALL PROSECUTION from local LAWS... SO, this is KNOW and expected and the US government always took active mesures to guarantees it's eventual IMPUNITY everywhere...
The problem with war atrocities is that those who committed them earlier can't tell about them to the kids who will keep repeating them later on. Wars are separated just long enough for a generation to forget about them and the other to repeat the madness all over again...
Any time you hear someone bitch about Dresden Bombing remind the person who said it who was bombing London flat for at least two years before that and the fact they were targeting manufacting plants.
The purpose of talking about dresden is to make people know there were no “good guy’s”. Hollywood often portrays the allies especially the Americans as heroes who saved the day. Talking about allied massacres needs to be done so people don’t forget that we weren’t saints. We did plenty of bad things in ww2 as well. Only difference being we came out on top so we could write the history books in our favor. The allies bombed several cities in my country because it was occupied by Germany. There weren’t any targets. They just bombed the wrong cities multiple times on accident. So many innocent lives destroyed due to allied mistakes and misjudgment. But in the end it was a price worth paying imo
@@maka6134 I don’t think this is true. There are plenty of instances of war crimes being committed by American GIs in Italy. The difference is we know about these things and a lot of these people were tried in military courts. we can compare this to the Soviet union where their soldiers raped hundreds of thousands of women on the eastern front and committed numerous crimes against German POWs. A lot of this went unpunished.
@@bentrinker1937 Im not talking about individuals doing something bad and being punished im talking about the generals and nations making awful decisions. Was anyone in the US government ever put in jail for America putting Japanese people in prison camps just for being Japanese? The US used operation paperclip to actively smuggle nazis away from punishment and gave them a new life in the USA as long as they helped the US government. The US did plenty of awful things. Much more than some small group of GI's committing crime and then getting court martialed for it. Many of the japanese scientists and higher ups responsible for Unit 731 were let go with no punishment because of America once again smuggling them away to America to help their own goals. America often bombed entire villages to the ground as it was preferable than sending in American soldiers to die. These were all decisions made at the top. I dont care about some smaller criminals i care about major allied powers doing horrific things on a nation scale and getting away with it.
What a great response, A) I don’t know B) here are things I do know If only people with far less knowledge would be willing to say “I don’t know” first
Soviet army had one of the most extensive medical service during the war which is the major reason so many women were serving in soviet army compared to other militaries of ww2. Having as much of field medics as possible was so important women were enlisted en masse to cover the shortage of men
@@QwoaX what is the difference between Soviet Russia and modern Russia except total scale of power and influence? none. USSR was always Russia for the people that lived at the time, dont retcon the history, Mr. clown
@@ghostman3344 Japan was not a defeated enemy when we dropped the bomb... look how we rebuilt Germany and Japan after the war... that type of treatment is very rare in human history and speaks to the goodness of our society.
"Can you imagine how the Japanese soldiers felt about this?" This was ingrained into not only soldiers but the Japanese people. It is shameful to your family to return from war wounded or having been captured by the opponent. This was the Japanese mindset. No I cannot imagine it, but I'm not sure what point you are making.
That floated through my mind as well. To answer the question: No, we can't really imagine what it was like to be as indoctrinated as they were. It was an utterly different mindset.
The Western (I'm not referring to the Soviets or Chinese) allies' "atrocities" during WWII, amounted to a couple of bags of peanuts, like you might get on a commercial air flight, or a baseball stadium. The German and Japanese atrocities, in comparison, basically were all the peanut FARMS of the entire world, combined.
Doesnt consider the two atomic bombs on the civilians. Soviet soldiers were marching on Manchuria but the US saw it as an opportunity to showcase their "strength" to the world. She says that she doesn't know and yet focuses on Japan instead of dealing with the Tokyo bombing.
the japanese at the time seemingly viewed no value in life. executing anyone who surrendered since that's considered abandoning honor and one without honor is subhuman which means no rights. along with seppuku, kamikazes. etc. it took extremely extreme measures to finally get them to change their views. only the threat of complete mass annihilation at the hand of nukes was finally enough to make the message clear that, hey, maybe honor isn't so great after all and surrender is a perfectly valid option.
200,000 thousand vs millions and millions. That wasn't the real reason back then but with hindsight and that reality in mind it becomes kind of hard to denounce the US as uniquely evil or in anyway equal in evil to any of the axis powers.
Jap soldiers were responsible for the well being of their prisoners to. If they were guarding the prisoner had to be in the condition he was when the last guard handed the watch over.
My late father was on the New Jersey during WW2. He said the worst part was the Kamakaze planes. They tried to rescue the shot down pilots from the Pacific. What was the worst part to him was when the men couldn’t be picked up or found due to circumstances beyond their control. Thinking of them dying alone in the Pacific was horrific so they always tried their best to retrieve them.
I hear that once they saw the allies they'd commit harakiri because they were told they would dishonor their land if captured. They didn't think they would be kept alive.
Do you mean the shot down American pilots or the Japanese pilots? I think they bolt the canopies shut on the Kamikaze pilots so they wouldn't have a change of heart.
@@thebowtiechaplain3399 My father said that they tried whenever possible to get the Kamikaze pilots. He did not mention the American pilots and my presumption was we would move heaven and earth to save them. He was a junior officer on the ship. It was not always possible to save them. He may have omitted that fact about the cockpits being bolted closed from what he told me but what upset him was that they could not always get to them in time. If that was done to their planes he probably knew it and knew what their fate would be. I had asked him why and he mentioned the distance they were from the ship and how difficult it was to quickly turn a large ship. Then we would listen to the star spangled banner before we turned the tv off.
Because this has NOT happened! The Russians LIBERATED Poland, saved Krakovia and Warsaw at the cost of lives. The witch invents the story, because she is looking for some funding for "new research" because today it is fashionable to see the Russians guilty in everything. It is not forgotten that the Jews who died in concentration camps were Polish citizens. It is because of these camps that the majority of the concentration is in Poland.
Years of Soviet controlled education? The disproportionately large number of teachers killed. Killed in Poland was not necessarily Poles killed. Lots of different reasons. I learned about it because I picked up the book Mila 18 when I was in my teens and am interested in history. Poland is historically the most massacred place on earth. Killing of a large portion of your population happens really frequently. Part of my family were serfs there, and moved to America in the 1920s. We don't have family there anymore.
We need teachers like her in every school in America, telling the truth to students about what actually happened. Tell them who the real enemies were & the atrocities committed, don't leave out Dresden, don't leave out the nuclear weapons. If you understand why, you sure as hell don't want to set the world on fire again, unless you are a sociopath.
No matter how bad you think war is…it’s always at least 10x worse
plus the hundreds of classified documents starting from ww1, they are protecting themselves from us
… in Asia
I never knew the Japanese killed their own on purpose. That is some wicked shit.
@TAOM5963 ate their own as well on New Guinea z they drew straws when they couldnt find Aussie prisoners.
More like debatable, are the nukes a justified thing and was killing crippled soldiers instead of wasting resources that could be used to win battles justified too?
The German ambassador told the Japanese to chill tf out in Nanking. Imagine that.
He probably said more something like "Nerve gas is cheaper, buddy".
I call BS on this one specifically.
@Commandelicious I don't know about official state ambassador, but there was a nazi party member that was put in charge of a safe zone in Nanjing and he did represent Nazi Germany in it. According to Wikipedia, he is credited to have saved at least 250 000 Chinese civilians and he used his position in the nazi party to delay Japanese advances and allow refugees to escape.
There's also an example of such behaviour from the Japanese side, Chiune Sugihara. He was a vice-consul from Japan in Lithuania and he gave out and handwrote visas to Jews to let them escape. He issued thousands of visas and saved thousands upon thousands of people.
@@Commandeliciousi bet you believed this lady when she said "Americans didn't plan on slaughtering Germans" when the plan to liquidate 50,000 German officers after the war was leaked with the presidents signature on it. As a Philadelphian anyone who knows our history should see right through "the greatest generation propaganda" As in the US for patriots that will always be the revolutionaries, the yes men are our biggest threat.
@@Commandelicious it's real. Bro handed out Nazi arm bands to the Ambassadors of other countries so they could all walk around at night and stop grape with impunity. Japanese soldiers would see the Swastika and back the fuck off real fast.
@Commandelicious no it is well known, John Rabe Nazi party member, he saved an estimated 200,000 to 250,000 Chinese from the Japanese army.
A Nazi actually thought the Japanese were far too brutal in Nanking. His name was John Rabe and he helped save thousands of Chinese. Imagine that.
natzis had concentrated brutality, and did way worse things, most natzis were just doing normal war stuff ,by the japanese the brutality was not as bad, but there were allot more brutal people
@@humility-righteous-giving Bro Nazis were puppies compared to the Japanese.
@@humility-righteous-giving talk about fucking bullshit. The japanese were way worse than the nazi's in terms of atrocities committed. You need to learn some history man, there was no army more evil during ww2 than the imperial japanese army. It was so evil unlike germany the japanese are still in denial of it to this day.
So which is it? Between the Laconia incident, and hundreds of reports of Germans actually being a beacon of hope during the war for non-Germans, what will you believe? Testimony, or state sanctioned educational materials and Hollywood?
doesnt matter what they thought, they held hands with russia as they rap-ed poland
My Grandad was a POW in Japan and what he saw stayed with him until his death in 1991. God rest your soul Grandad 🙏🏼🫡🙏🏼
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He's so lucky he got out, at least physically. Bless him. 😢
Unit 731 were absolute savages.
@@juletaurus 🙏🏼🙏🏼
what did the loser see? Xplain.
The few Japanese who surrendered during the War made it clear they did not want their government informed they were still alive.
THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT LIED TO ALL OF THEIR PEOPLE. THE SOLIDERS WERE MURDERED BY THEIR OWN SOLIDERS IF THEY TALKED OF SURRENDER. THE GOVERNMENT SAID AMERICANS WOULD HURT THE CITIZENS AND KILL ALL OF THEM IF THEY WERE CAPTURED, EVEN BABIES. THEY WERE TERRIFIED. A FEW THAT WERE CAPTURED OR FOUND WERE SO SURPRIZED BY THE COMPASSION THE AMERICANS HAD FOR THE PEOPLE. THE YOUNG SOILDERS SHARED CANDY AND PLAYED WITH THE CHILDREN. THEY WERE SO NICE TO THE LADIES AND THE BABIES AND GAVE THEM BLANKETS WHEN THEY WERE COLD. THEY GAVE THEM FOOD. THIS WAS NOT WHAT THE JAPANESE WERE TOLD. MY MOTHER WAS A CHILD WHEN THE WAR WAS GOING ON AND SHE AND HER FAMILY SUFFERED TREMENDOUSLY DURING THE WAR. NO FOOD, HER HOME BEING BOMBED, HER SCHOOL LUNCHES BEING STOLEN EVERYDAY. PLUS, HER FATHER DIED IN A WORK ACCIDENT AND HER MOTHER WAS A SINGLE MOTHER TAKING CARE OF FIVE CHILDREN AND TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. MY JAPANESE GRANDMOTHER WAS NOT ALLOWED TO WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME, SO SHE DID EVERYTHING INSIDE, ANYTHING. EVEN MAKING LITTLE BOUQUETS OF FLOWERS FOR MY MOM TO SELL ON THE STREET. SOME GEISHA LADIES BOUGHT THEM FOR THEIR HAIR. THEY KNEW MY MOTHER BECAUSE MY GRANDFATHER TOOK MY MOM WITH HIM TO BUSINESS MEETINGS. MY MOTHER MARRIED AN AMERICAN AND MY SISTER AND I WERE BORN. WAR IS HORRIBLE WITH SO MANY LIVES LOST. 😢💔. NO ONE IS SPARED.
Citation needed
@@hydra8845 this occurred during during the Midway campaign and the Solomons campaign.
@@hydra8845Why?
That’s not how you spell situation
I admire people that dare to say "I don't know" instead of just pretending they know.
Love the concept wish it was the rule🙄
Egoless ______ is a change in mindset from the late 80s and 90s. Anyone with an ego in an professional env is still a child. Do not tolerate it; "Don't feed the trolls."
When a person doesn't hesitate to say I don't know, makes what they do claim to know all the more believable.
The amount of guessing online stated as fact which people then read and repeat as such to others is rapidly lowering the IQ of the human race. Despite there being no apparent benefit to this behavior it's extremely pervasive.
I admire people who know history. We know EXACTLY what happened in the 1940's in Europe, but we can only guess about Rome.
I had a Chinese teacher in my community college in riverside, CA. He said that during the war his very first memory in his life was a Japanese samurai warrior standing over him and chopping off his lower leg on one leg. He said the Japanese did this to many of the Chinese little kids. He was taken to a doctor to survive and eventually was able to get a surgery and a prosthetic. He was my science teacher but he was an amazing artist and took us to his studio the last day of class. He had painted a huge 8ft painting of the samurai warrior w his blade coming down at the viewer, from the angle a small child would have. It was scary and chilling to see his nightmares painted out. The teacher also did murals at our school and started learning dance w his prosthetic, even tho he was in his 70s. ❤
should post an image of that, sounds like a great work and story that can be shared.
@@archumwelten7135 I’ll look to see if I can find the photo of that painting. He was amazing. Very strict science teacher tho!
@@elizabethdeatrick6644 Did you ever find it? This sounds amazing
Amazing! Respect .....
The only issue is samurai haven't existed for tjousands of years
My uncle was a foot soldier in WWII. He never lived out of institutions or recovered emotionally. He chain smoked and had the most eerie smile I've ever seen.
John Rabe Nazi Ambassador to Nanking said;
"I wanted to see these atrocities with my own eyes, so that I might speak as an eyewitness later. A man cannot keep silent about this level of cruelty."
I repeat. A *Nazi* Ambassador. Shocked by cruelty.
Germans were not knee deep at war at this point. It just goes to show how simple people are. Most things iscalated in steps for germans too. Amd non of these empires were nice cointries. Its just they all had different victims
You’ve seen too many Hollywood movies and read too few firsthand history books. The Nazis weren’t the villainous caricatures they’ve been made out to be. By military standards they were abnormally chivalrous.
Try reading about Luz Long some day, the Nazi Olympian who befriended the black American Olympian Jesse Owens and remained pen pals with him throughout the war. Their story and his final letter are infamously at odds with what the movies tell us the Germans were like:
“I am here, Jesse, where it seems there is only the dry sand and the wet blood. I do not fear so much for myself, my friend Jesse, I fear for my woman who is home, and my young son Karl, who has never really known his father.”
”My heart tells me, if I be honest with you, that this is the last letter I shall ever write. If it is so, I ask you something. It is a something so very important to me. It is you go to Germany when this war done, someday find my Karl, and tell him about his father. Tell him, Jesse, what times were like when we not separated by war. I am saying-tell him how things can be between men on this earth.”
”If you do this something for me, this thing that I need the most to know will be done, I do something for you, now. I tell you something I know you want to hear. And it is true.”
”That hour in Berlin when I first spoke to you, when you had your knee upon the ground, I knew that you were in prayer.”
“Then I not know how I know. Now I do. I know it is never by chance that we come together. I come to you that hour in 1936 for purpose more than der Berliner Olympiade.”
”And you, I believe, will read this letter, while it should not be possible to reach you ever, for purpose more even than our friendship.”
”I believe this shall come about because I think now that God will make it come about. This is what I have to tell you, Jesse.”
“I think I might believe in God.”
“And I pray to him that, even while it should not be possible for this to reach you ever, these words I write will still be read by you.”
“Your brother, Luz”
This was written by a man who gave the Nazi salute from the winners podium after winning the silver medal at the Berlin Olympics. Standing right next to him on the taller podium was Jesse Owens who had taken the gold medal. If that salute meant what we’re taught it meant then he wouldn’t have done it while standing next to Jesse during his finest moment of glory
You’ve been lied to. About a lot.
Nanjing massacre was in 1937. War didn't come to Europe until 1939, N*zi massacres started 1941 (ex. Babi Yar), formal intent on extermination (Wannsee Conference) was by 1942... So yea, Germans in 1937 saw what they saw, and hadn't seen what was to be yet.
i MEAN HE DIDNT SEE THE ATROCITIES BACK HOME AT IT WAS TO EARLY FOR HIM TO SEE THEM
Germany was friendly to the Nationalist Chinese government at the time since they both have fascist regimes. Germany actually supplied the Chinese with weapons and even sent a WW1 veteran general to help train the Chinese troops. All that changed after Germany allied with Japan and became the Axis powers.
"and the atrocities get even better" is a wild way to phrase it.
I caught that. That phrasing was very interesting.
It's the kind of phrasing that gets our attention. She was telling the other speaker " well, if you want to make this a silly number game, let's play".
I caught it as well.
That sweet, sweet sarcasm.
Classics never die.
It's called sarcasm. It's widespread in America.
While I agree it’s an atrocity, you have no idea what the Japanese soldier thought about it. Their culture and views on service and on death are completely different than anywhere else on the planet, and especially different from a westerner’s.
When you're so brutal, even the Nazis were like "Damn."
Same with the Armenian genocide....the Germans could not loose Turkish support but were highly appalled by the genocide being committed...of course far right Islamic ultranationalist theocrat fascist Erdostooge acts like this never happened....
Just like in Jasenovac, Croatian concentration camp where they executed Serbs in the most brutal way possible.
Yeah, they really committed to being world class war criminals..
Yes. But, let's keep the nazis in the limelight....
@summera3926 people who refuse to remember and learn from history are doomed to repeat it
Sally Paine is amazing. She teaches at the U.S. Naval War College and is an amazing lecturer!
🤣🤣🤣in Africa and middle East we see her as a propaganda ..re writting history coz they are now friends with Germany
Yeah she regurgitates the lies well.
She's full of shit.. rewriting history. You'll see, It won't belong before she starts teaching that it was the Russians who bombed the Japanes!!
"Well, A, I dont know..." is the best response given to any question ever
At the same time the worst since B she babbles on and on.
@@kleinmeisterleinHe asked a question so presumably wanted her opinion
She gave it but made it clear that he shouldn’t blindly listen to her
@@samstromberg5593 Yeah, that was a very good way to make it clear she was expressing her informed opinion as a historian, with the caveat that she cannot categorically state that she is certain it is completely, fully accurate.
@@cykeok3525I mean she basicaly said: The japanese slaightered their own people so it wasnt as bad when the USA did it.
And then continued on to answer. I am absolutely doing this at work.
Poland's total population in the 1930's was only 31-ish million. They lost 8-9 million. Well over 1/4 their population died.
Nearly a third, and yet people still praise the soviets like they were some sort of merciful God liberating the east from german occupation
2 billion fundamentalists will tell you that it was god´s perfect plan.
look how much chinese and soviets lost during ww2 and how much usa , uk and france lost
@@endzorUK and USA not even close to poland and ussr was agresor here so i dont care
@@Tomszplfamously the USSR invaded the nation that massacred its people
The superiors in the japanese army blamed most of their failures to the troops "lack of morale" instead of acknowledging flaws in tactics or logistics. They put much more importance to the "guts" of the soldier than logistics or technology that led to many soldiers dying of disease and starvation at the pacific war. There is this quote by tojo hideki when he visited a school and said to the students, "you dont shoot thw enemy with your gun but with your guts! A steel mentality is stronger than technology" and If you look at the battle of okinawa, many civilians were killed by the japanese army for attempting to surrender to the americans. I think japans lack of regard to their own citizens lives is what allowed them to commit so many atrocites to other nations.
TBH much of the Japanese politics and military doctrines of the 1918-45 period was just dumb. It's not a place to elaborate on this, but seriously, so many bad decisions due to jingoism, saving face or firm belief that numbers are less important than a nation's morale. And so on and on and on.
You’re really naive, it was completely justifed
@@mysteriousdemon5706I don't know what this is in response to. Since it makes no sense. But there is nothing wrong with his statement. So just take the L on this and move on buddy
They were as brainwashed as the North Koreans or russians of today. They committed atrocities because they were told that is what their enemies would do to them, and another reason so few surrendered.
When the USA occupied Japan after the war, we helped develop/set up their TV stations with multiple companies to prevent a monopoly on information like there was with the radio there.
Like it was an improvement. Lies and fake news became spread into thousand voices spreading fake news. Divide and conquer
Craziest part is, Japan still doesn’t admit to their atrocities and refuses to teach their population about them.
That's why their population is slowly dying out and are depressed as hell.
Same goes for good ol' USA. And the UK if I'm not mistaken
@@lerui2820every history class I’ve been in has explained in detail about the war crimes america committed from agent orange to the fire bombings, Japan is the only nation that refuses to acknowledge their crimes and always plays the victim
Russia, France and Belgium also@@lerui2820
@@lerui2820 Japan doesn't even learn about WWII like America and UK do
As a Japanese person, the atrocities were horrific of course, but on a totally side note, at least the Germans treated their returning vets with some dignity. Japan totally abandoned and ignored their crippled (and even able bodied) young men who were DRAFTED into war for the nation. There were plenty of scenes of returning veterans begging for food because their own COUNTRY didn't bother trying to help them when they (as young men) were conscripted into military service. At least Nazi Germany HELPED their returning vets. As a vet myself (an American) but also of Japanese Descent, this is one of the most shameful things the government did to their own people. The best thing for Japan was to be defeated by the Americans. They learned many things, including veteran's rights, civil rights, a democratic system that lessened the class system (with time). I think being exposed to American ideals was a benefit to the Japanese people (in the post war years).
Besides, they got their economic miracle....
Thank you that was really interesting but also quite sad. At least something positive came from it
I think the Japanese benefitted immensely having been defeated in the war, and their culture was allowed slowly reach back to its roots over time...
And Americans who have been exposed to Japanese culture have benefitted immensely also, as it has tended to be a culture of gentle humility & humbleness
When the tragedies of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are concerned, never have so many owed so much to so few.
Never heard so much Bs and lies in a short videos like this....
Only Americans can belive this fairy tales and straight up propaganda....
Any European who first of all studied history, but who has grandparents and relatives who suffered the war themselves, knows very well that there has never been a more brutal and evil army than the German army....
the Soviets were saints in comparison.... and this is told by someone who had my grandfather's brother who fought against the Russians and suffered Nazi reprisals....
Schools fail you.... Japanese people are even more ignorant about history than Americans...
Please talk about anime and pokemon and please leave history topics to people with culture and memory
My brother in law talked about his family being lined up with the males on 1 side and females on the other. One of the oldest male was beheaded by the Japanese soldiers in front of everyone. One of the brothers was so traumatized that he ran off into the forests and was never heard from again. My female coworker (whole lot older than me) talked about their mother smearing the young girls’ faces with poop so they would smell bad and not be raped by the Japanese soldiers. My own mother was the oldest of the four siblings and was a very young girl during the war. She was trained by my grandmother to pick up the youngest sibling , the second oldest to pick up the third and to run into the forest whenever the Japanese soldiers raid their town. It brought my mom’s siblings closer to each other since they saw death marching into town at an early age. This explained why my mom would be so happy whenever her youngest sibling visited her at our house. He was always welcome to sleep in our already overcrowded house every time he visited .
Some of the women even disfigure themselves.
Wow! What a remarkable story. I’m happy to hear of your mother and other family members who bravely survived the hardships of that horrific conflict, and I’m glad that you’re able to be here with us today, my friend. If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the nationality/ethnicity of you, your mother, and her family? Where were they during the war?
A salute to your family. When we talk about heroes, we mostly mean men in uniform. But civilians like your family deserve our respect too.
Most horrible was when US bombing women, children and older people in Japan Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that was ugly.
@@anatoliy8212 ah yes, Ruskies are the greatest sympathisers to Japanese on social media. Never mind that they would have done much worse to the Japanese. Even the Japanese knew that the Russians would beat them in cruelty.
My grandfather's sister was married to a Japanese who fled the country as to not fight in the war, that man was completely abandoned by all of his blood for "dishonor" of not believing in what they were doing and still he never show and inch of regret, used to say we were his real family, always felt bad for him
Feel good about providing a better and actual-loving family to this man
He was a genius! He's still alive and married very well!
I feel that guy luckily my entire (alive) family moved out in time
He’s a coward and dishonor shall be his last name 😂
I forgotten that people's name is like the people that own the Subaru also left the country because they didn't want any part of it.
“A, I dont know, B..what about….” Intellectual honesty at its finest 😂
😂❤
Horrible, horrible atrocities. But only when done by other countries.
Would you have felt better if she just made something up?
One of my closest friends here, Mr. Tanaka, is a retired high school English teacher who told me when was nine, his father took him to Tokyo for the first time. They came over a hill and saw it in the distance. The city was on fire.
Mr. Tanaka went on to attend college in the US. He loves America. Figure that one out. His experience is not uncommon. The friendliest people I've met here were survivors of WWII. Another retired teacher friend told me he saw a black man for the first time in the occupation and didn't know what he was. He was scared to death. The Black American soldier, smiled and gave him a chocolate bar. He never forgot it. And decided to visit that man's country and study English after that. He wasn't even eight years old yet. Nothing is what you think it will be. That's one thing I've learned here in Japan. Don't be surprised to be surprised.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Amazing!!
Did he mention the rapes and sexual violence and sexual murders committed by his country to China, Korea, the Philippines, etc?
Its because of Japanese culture. Pride and discipline people, who respects those who defeats them, and learn from they.
The Japanese are responsible for their WW11 agonies. My father was from Onomichi. My mom remarried him when he was in the states & he adopted me. Onomichi is right over the hill from Hiroshima.
Look at the Berlin Airlift of 1948-49. Some 18 months earlier, those same Allied air forces had been bombing German cities.
There's a shrine in Okinawa called the Himeyuri Shrine that is dedicated to a class of HS girls that was conscripted by the Japanese army to be nurses during the siege of Okinawa. Over 200 girls forced down into the caves to assist with wounded and dying. You can read the reports of the 20 someodd survivors who detailed how they were given cyanide laced milk to give to wounded soldiers, who would then curse them out as they succumbed to the poison. Then there's the whole "telling the Okinawan civilian population that the US army would rape and murder them when they arrived," which led to tens of thousands committing suicide en mass in order to stave off the US atrocities that never happened. There's a reason why the Okinawan's assisted the US military in finding and capturing the mainland Japanese army regulars who tried to blend into the population after the war (but didn't know the local dialect, and as such were captured with the locals help.)
What you said is exactly true. My dad fought on Okinawa, June 1945. USMC.
Holy shit. I did not know that. Thank your learnin me somethin today. Heavy as fuck. Great idea for a movie, show or anime. Damn. Those poor girls, can't imagine the guilt.
While not at the same level as the Japanese, the Nazi or Soviet, Americans soldiers also did commit atrocities to Japanese soldiers to some extent, mainly due to the dehumanizing American anti-Japanese propaganda (akin to the Nazi propaganda about the Russian at the time)
The worry that a Japanese civilian or POW would get mistreated, murdered and have their body part kept as trophies wasn't unfounded, and was used in return as propaganda by the Japanese Government to picture Americans as blood thirsty barbarians.
EDIT: add tot that that the Shinto belief on the impact of a body remains to the soul in the afterlife also explain why the "body part collection" was considered especially barbaric by the Japanese population.
Ah false info 101.
@@rafidog I’m not talking about soldiers. I’m talking about Okinawa civilians who hated the Japanese so your point is moot.
This is one reason why history is such an important subject to learn in schools...
thats the exact reason why you should NOT learn history in school,but researchn independent sources from all corners of the spectrum.
And we haven’t learned shit. Yes it’s important but what we’ve been fed is largely propaganda.
@@marshelmatters5696 you for sure should learn history in school, but in order to learn history, you need to have a healthy amount skepticism of the source, inside and outside school/media.
unfortunately this is never taught in Japanese schools and Japan has never officially acknowledged the rape of nanking, Germany is the only country that has ever had to shame their history
@@Singlemethod4217 my entire time in school Was completely pointless especially when it came to history we need to fix our education system already.
Wanna know something weird? At the same time, when the Japanese fought the Chinese and treated them worse than dogs, and the Germans fought us, Poles, and treated us the same as the Japanese treated the Chinese, the Japanese not only did not accept our declararion of war, but more so, accepted our refugees and declared that they would never trust Hitler again, after what he had done to Poland. Both of the axis countries commited horrible crimes against humanity, both sided with the people who's ally was deliberately exterminating, and yet none of them showed a sliver of remorse to the ones they were annihilating.
Very interesting, i didnt know that
dude wow that is actually super weird wtf, thanks for sharing. My guess is that the Japanese outrage was projection because they convinced themselves their own atrocities were “justified”
@@RAMnnn1892 Because it's not true.
And I love how Poles really love A.H. on Tiktok Euroid propaganda videos lmao I have seen countless Slavs loving him and his ideologies even though they treated the Slavs worst than a dog during ww2
Not like allies were all good and didn’t commit any “atrocity”. British colonialism *coughs coughs* French colonies still present *coughs coughs*
As a Pole, I would like to thank you for these words that commemorated my fallen ancestors. We will never be able to recover from some wounds, but memory and truth are the most important
You should have left the Germans alone.
@@joejohnson3814exactly. He forgot why Hitler had to go into Poland.
Joe Johnson you are the perfect candidate to prove some humans still don’t know their elbow from their a$$hole.
@@joejohnson3814 Meaning exactly what?
@@joejohnson3814 yes, it was the poles fault that germany invaded poland, france, russia, and the rest of europe.
Just like how its Ukraines fault that russia invaded, georgia, chechnya, and ukraine.
We initially tried high altitude precision bombing over Japan but discovered the jet stream existed and going against it depleted the bombers fuel. Thus we had to go to lower altitude bombing which meant we had to do it at night to help conceal the bombers from AA fire and that meant we couldnt see the targets which meant the only option to hit strategic targets was to firebomb it because it was all largely wood construction and that would spread to take out the targets even if they werent directly hit.
And whats that called?
@@bhargabdas3417 Strategic bombing?
@@martind5653 So if someone did that to your city its fine?
@@bhargabdas3417it's called war. A war usa didn't ask for.
@@captmack007 I know but, They did ask for the other wars right?
Or am i wrong? (If yes please explain.)
You can tell she’s a historian because she prefaces everything with “we don’t know, but…”
The question is who's "we"...lol
It's good to hear a factual discussion, rather than an emotional rant.
@@mtman2 her and her books, lol keep cutting down trees, brawndo its what plants crave
@@Penitent_Intent so you're suggesting no books resulting in more stupid people? i can tell you havent read that many, give your head a damn shake...trees get replanted dork
We don't know, but let me tell you the propoganda I'm told to push
My grandpa fought as a guerilla in the Philippines. He said they were so mad at what the Japanese did to their women, children and their whole village, that whenever they were able to capture a few japanese soldiers, they would skin them alive and tie them up to a tree naked with their uniforms on the ground. They would strategically place these bodies where japanese regiments would pass in order to scare them. He said they were very small men in physical stature but were a tough enemy because they were so fanatical.
Then your grandpa was/is as much of a war criminal as those japanese soldiers were.
"If it doesn't fit in a short, don't put it in a short."
-Sun Tzu
Laughed too hard at this one. Well done.
Brilliant!
Even Sun Tzu's name was very short. I don't know anyone with a shorter name.
It doesn't tell the whole story at all.The USA always was and is still more brutal than any country in the world.More blood thirsty and more murderous.The russians did what they had to do because they were being attacked by germany
Your attention span is really that short, huh? Can't stand to spend more than 10 seconds watching something. Fucking sad.
A lot of people don’t know this so I will share it here . When I was younger I heard a man speaking , telling how he survived when the “A” bomb hit his city . He was a young boy and his parents found one of the warning leaflets that the Americans dropped ahead of time . His dad took it seriously and fled with his family to the countryside. He said they survived starvation by eating bugs because there was very little food where they fled to.
😧😭😭😭
"we are gonna to nuke you"
"understood. I'm out"
An anecdote that is often and unfortunately left out of the history books. He could have been executed for fleeing since the Japanese ordered that those stationed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki remain in their homes and continue working. They literally condemned their own people to nuclear annihilation. Imo, you have to be historically illiterate or morally benighted to say that the United States was in the wrong.
@@flyingphoenix113it was a kindness that saved the Japanese from Josef Stalin's Red Army and their Emperor being executed in the Lybuanka
If you read Unbroken it is mentioned that on August 15th all allied prisoners except comfort women were to be executed.
The invasion of Japan would have been a blood bath and probably would have ended up with a divided Japan with a Russian north and an American / British south. Just like Korea.
" Joseph Stalin is credited with the quote, "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic".
While Stalin never spoke or said any of the quotes.
@@robertagren9360 Evrn if Stalin di d not say that ,would it make it any less true ?
@@robertagren9360 Here is a better documented quote which has relevance in our country " I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this-who will count the votes, and how :
said in 1923; Boris Bazhanov The Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary (1992); see Stoppard
@@chadwhitman1811 Georgian's are blood thirsty maniacs, so I wouldn't be surprised if he said that.
@@chadwhitman1811
That Stalin never said it makes it very little truthsaying and what the propaganda machine want people to believe is just as much voting with newspaper.
Theres nothing I love more than an expert who is willing to say they just don't know something, adds more credibility to the rest of what they say.
Shes or he is no expert
@@mscapeh4451
Really? What's your foundation for that statement?
@castleanthrax1833 she/he said that there were 9m casualties just to pump up she/his narrative(bad russia), but there were 5.5m/6m from whom 3m were Jews.
@@stefanmitrovits6258
Yes... I watched the video too. Unfortunately, you can't answer a question that I asked someone else.
As for the disparity in numbers; fallibility is a human condition. Even for experts.
Not to be "that guy" but I find it so ironic that in the context of literal human genocide... In the middle of a graphic detailing of wanton, horrendous acts of inhumanity, they felt the need to sensor the word "cr**ple." I mean, it's likely because of the algorithm's stipulations on creators, but still. And while it may be well-meaning, and it certainly isn't the the worst thing in the world, I just think it's instructive of where we are as a culture.
Yeah lets not mention a slightly rude outdated term while we discuss the mass murder of 8 million.
@@user-ek4ic2ip9e Living cripples get offended by the term but all the mass murdered are well...murdered! No complaints there!
Nothing to do with anyone's culture. UA-cam belongs to a mega corporation.
It's easier for them to automate stuff than pay someone to make sensible decisions.
@@user-ek4ic2ip9e somebodies feeling might get hurt as we discuss a historic event of the mass genocide of an entire generation worldwide.
we can't have that.
The censorship of such a "horrible" word might be to appease UA-cam's algorithm. The censors are getting worse by the minute.
Out of all the countries involved in war, Japan was the most abominational and savage.
Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot didn't need no stinkin' war to kill their people.
*Mongols have entered the chat*
They werent ountries at all, but Ukrainians (Vholynia massacre) and Croatians (Ustase death camps) did one of the worst atrocities in WW2.
Unit 731 makes the nazi death camps look like summer camps.
@@candlestyx8517Who?
My grandfather was a Marine who survived the first days of Saipan. The only things he openly hated were Japanese and Douglas MacArthur. The stories he told about these people were bone chilling.
Why did he hate Douglas?
@@Allmotorzl1 , Because he was a camera loving showman that got his friends killed for his glory. On the contrary he thought Nimitz was the greatest leader of the war. It’s a long story but Douglass almost didn’t survive a Saipan friendly fire incident. The marines hated him.
@@Allmotorzl1 Douglas MacArthur also butchered the defense of the Philippines in 1941.The Japanese fully occupied the islands by summer of 1942. Good ol' Douglas came back in '45 though and that was apparently good enough for the Filipino people to forget about him abandoning them.
Like what? Share some of his stories. That is a part of History that doed not get put in the History books. We should all know the truth. Carry fown the tradition.
@@Allmotorzl1 who didn't?
My grandmother who witnessed entire WW2 as Polish peasant said that once the slavery of German occupation ended and the soviets moved in, they missed the Germans xD Total animalistic behaviour, savagery of soviet troops was unmatched.
Just remember, the nuclear weapons were the 'less deadly' of America's options.
The deadliest was the bat-bomb.
Sounds about right, did the marines make the bat bomb?
@@whereismycup I don't see how anyone but Batman could make the Bat-bomb.
Googling it though, what an absolutely silly idea. Some R&D department in the 1940's must have all been on coke.
@@whereismycupI believe they tested them idk though
That's not very accurate. The bat bombs were canceled because they set a bunch of US buildings on fire and were also a dumb idea.
@@Banzai_-xn8ip.that's the main reason they were never used.
As vietnam combat vet ,you can't be a "nice guy" and fight a war at the same time.After awhile you become numb to death.You try but ....
aaaand the my lai apologists are here.
@@quineloewhat's the matter bud, have nobody to talk too?
Thanks for you're Service!
@@quineloe Aaand the leftist idiots who think war is a slap fight shows up.
@@quineloe It's MeiLai and the entirety of the Vietnam conflict is incredibly complex and to smooth brain simplification of "Murica mad war crime..." is just hamfisted argument based on "fweewings," and not fact. Have you ever fought an insurgency? Have you ever been shot at, watched close friends rendered into a wet pulpy mass? Then have the enemy hide among women and children so as to use your own rules of engagement against you? Hell, have you ever experienced violence greater than being wedgied and stuffed in a locker? War is hell, absolute hell and a guerilla war is the lowest level of hell. Imagine how long it would take your sanctimonious self righteous ass to snap day after day, month after month. It's easy to cast judgement when you've lived a safe, privileged and sheltered small life you become ignorant of the dirtyness it takes to keep war from your doorstep.
The Japanese had less regard for their own lives than we did for theirs.
Not really. It was about selling the war.
If you tell people that every war is the ruler killing them they will not want to join the war as wounded soldiers are propaganda.
You are making the other person’s point for them.
It was about honor. They couldn't go home crippled or defeated because it would bring dishonor to the family. So they had to commit seppuku in order for their family honor to be preserved
@@robertagren9360 While yes it was about selling the war, the existence of kamikaze pilots and death charges does imply a lower regard for one's life.
@@kingpet Going to war, fighting, getting wounded, and returning home is dishonorable? So much so I must end my own life to protect my family from the "shame"....? Yea that sounds like a pretty low regard for one's life like the comment said lol
It is written in Indonesian history book, the brutality of Japan in just 3 years surpassed 300 years of Dutch colonialism.
It’s a miracle Poland has survived to this day she has been so poorly treated throughout history. My family immigrated at the turn of the 19th century they probably saw how bad it was getting.
Polands own fault for being on the wrong side
Well, the polish jews didn't. Almost none survived
Poland will never be conquered again. They will fight.
@McHallel dafuq - Poland and its civilian population was literally decimated in the first nine months of WW2 after being invaded by Germany and then Russia - they never had an option to be on "any side
@@McHallel Wrong side of WHAT? Man, you need to explain that. Attacked by the Germans and occupied. Attacked by the Russians and occupied. Whose side did they ever have a chance to BE on???
the Japanese were utterly brutal in the second world war. Their treatment of prisoners of war was second to none in its barbarity.
Still doesnt justify hiroshima
@@shangurila7they could’ve invaded the homeland but would’ve costed millions of Americans lives. But they could just drop 2 bombs and kill around 250k ppl
@@shangurila7 never said it did.
@@shangurila7 You dont know what your talking about. Im not on that tower either, but I have talked to people whos profession it is to know.
It comes down to: If you dont have all the context your analysis is going to be basic and flawed.
@@shangurila7 Ask the 10 million + Chinese who were massacred at the hands of the Japanese if it was justified... oh wait, we can't
To put the attitude of Japan’s command in perspective. One IJA general said a Japanese soldier’s life is worth less than the postage to send the draft notice.
Chilling.
That's why they lost
Damn. And the lives of Chines were worth a tiny fraction of that.
@@BelugaChonkyThey lost cuz they got nuked twice 🤣 Japan was formidable and scary as fuck to fight. Most soldiers prayed they got sent to fight the Germans over the Japanese. They killed themselves when they failed missions, didn’t take prisoners, and with so much nationalism they were happy to die for their country. I’m not saying they would have won the war, but without the nukes they would have kept fighting for a long time and millions more would have died.
@@moehaymed9567 no i mean the Japanese were often careless with thier recourses and man power they put themselves in a stupid position and got all Their carriers sunk and have a history of incompetence
My grandma is a polish jew. She escaped the massacre by travelling through forests. Apparently she used her beauty to get men to help her along the way she said she had to sleep with some gross men. She made it to England and then finally Canada.She said she had no ptsd and was proud she did what she had to do.
The Japanese actually believed that the U.S Marines were recruited from prisons & asylums (hoorah!)
They believed it.
Mostly from gay bars actually
@@Clancy192 you'd know wouldn't ya!
I just saw the interview of a New Zealander who came to Japan in the 60's with his newborn son. Australians travelling with him on the same boat told him Japanese eat babies....
@@Clancy192 Wait, they aren't?!
@@Clancy192 Hey Navy personnel are important too! Can’t have marines without the navy
My uncle served in the Australian air force, he was a navigator on board a lancaster bomber, he took part in the bombing of dresden, his bomber was shot down afterwards, and the german civilians tried to kill him and his crew mates with farm tools, for the last 6 months of the war he and all the other p.o.w's were force marched north to be used as shields, i was told by my mother as a child not to ask him about it to much as he had been tortured down to him being the navigator and he had bombing runs memorized.
The Aussies were noted for throwig Jap prisoners out of airplanes.
So terrible. Big sigh. Human kind eh. Sad that wars r planned by rich greedy liars and suffered by everyone innocent
@@matzbr5tw yeah like the rich greedy men that backed hitler
As a German, thanks to your family member for his service. I'm in a free democratic country thanks to him, and he helped save millions
Lol Germany is not free and never will be again.
"History is but a lie agreed upon" - Napoleon
People still believe in chicom propaganda
"Well A; I dont know" that's honestly incredibly refreshingly humble
We may never know how truly vicious and callose the Imperial Japanese military was capable of being. Until I started searching for that information and asking veterans about it no other source had even mentioned it. One of the Batan Death March survivors even came back after his rehabilitation and lived out his life in my home town and no one ever mentioned him to us when we were kids.
Our new VA medical Center is named after him.
Abie Abraham
its sad how little we care about Japans warcrimes and other terrible acts commited to china during that time period. i swear we undermine what happened inside russia and inside china and if i had to bet its because both countries went communist. I mean both countries lost more then the jews as a religion did over three times the amount which is crazy and yet you never here a single thing about the genocides commited in either.
@@kyekruchoski1457 We don't care so much about the actions of the Japanese because Comrade Mao outclassed them in the number of Chinese he sent 6 feet under...
And Comrade Mao is still on all Chinese banknotes and no one in China has a problem that there were years when, for example, zero children were born because the party had such a whim!
Well take a look at the US military....pretty much the same thing except they use propaganda to deny the things they do....we are the new Germany....or Japanese military....
@@kyekruchoski1457Americans are much more closely tied to Western Europe that Eastern.
And at that time had very little respect or knowledge of Japan or China.
But I i think the biggest factor was that the Soviets and Chinese were portrayed as evil godless Commies. They weren't seen as individuals, but as The Red Menace.
A campaign to recognize them as individual humans that suffered horribly from our mutual enemies was not compatible with Cold War propaganda and public sentament.
@@kyekruchoski1457 You don't. But the Chinese all do. They lost 10% of their population getting Taiwan back in WW2. History is important, else you'll never understand why there is no way you can convince them to let go.
Never knew that about the Japanese army and their disabled soldiers. This woman reveals more about history all the time.
well, her distorted neocon views of history. But some truths there
It honestly makes them seem so much worse. Its a little morbid but I could kind of understand it if they were just xenophobic but to turn on your own people in such a terrible way...
She's a hack.
@@moiseshuerta3984It's pretty telling that you chose to insult her rather than refute her Ideas
@@CruelandCold
Refute her ideas?
Where do I start?
Give me one and let me tell ya
I heard a lecture once saying that once Germany capitulated and the GI’s started making their way from France into Germany that the Americans preferred the German populace to the French. They thought the French were haughty and liked the Germans better.
Americans - so rewde!!! Sometimes I weesh we 'ad nevaire conquaired there ancestairs in Britehn! Vive la France! Vive la France! Jerry Lewis! Jerry Lewis!
I had a great uncle who was an engineer in Europe during the War, specializing in telecommunications. He said tapping into the French telephone lines was an utter nightmare. The German ones were incredibly easy. Just plug in and you’re good to go.
Where can we find this lecture?
I've read that the US army liked the Germans better bc rather than sit in the rubble, they would start picking it up and trying to make order of it all again.
So you're saying Americans get along better with facists and racists.....tracks 😂
Do you also have a single source?
Love when people who actually know something discuss
She avoids responding to the firebombing deaths by telling us how terrible the Japanese were to each other. The type of question avoidance is very telling. She doesn’t want to accept any wrongdoing by the allied forces.
Was fire bombing or nuking to end a war Japan started an atrocity? Most people do not think so corky
She compares the size of US warcrimes in ww2 with those of the japaneese. And yes, the size difference DOES matter.
@@derekschootsWhen you compare millions of civilian murders vs tens of millions the comparison just becomes blurred.
War isn’t about who’s right it’s about who’s left.
War, war never changes.
The god of war is Ruin. The ruin of man is greed.
The ruin of man is themselves whether it be greed or dominance.. either way the human is a parasite and our subconscious goal or meaning of life is to ravage every possible sustainable resource this planet has to offer then if we cant find another before this one is barren then we will populate and destroy another until there is no more sustainability.. then we cease to be.
Nah with the Japanese it was definitely about who was right, and the people who were right had to make sure they won.
@@mustardbiscuits9750 hmmmm and that’s your opinion. Now ask a jap from the 30s.
Here comes the sun.
@@mustardbiscuits9750 It's still about who's left. Every conflict is a struggle between right and right, but that's not what polpan was commenting here. Ultimately, it's about who's left, because they're the ones who will have to deal with it.
My Mom's town in South Holland was liberated by British & Polish troops. The past Nazis in her town were Hitler Youth. They surrendered to the Allies peeing their pants literally, believing what their superiors told them that they'd be executed. The British & Polish soldiers didn't execute them.
Breda?
Japanese soldiers didn't want to go home cripples. It was considered a failure. They BEGGED for execution. Shows what this lady knows.
Being crippled placed a load on the family. Prosthetics as we know them now, along with "Plastic Surgery" advanced during and after the war. There were few medical supplies and All Food was expected to be used by the "Able" to advance the Gov't's Aims. As the war continued Supplies of All types became scarce due to Submarine actions. No Supplies meant No Ships for Transportation of Wounded or even Able Troops.
I was impressed by Robert McNamara's documentary called "The Fog Of War" when McNamara told Curtis Lemay that the Americans would be war criminals for fire bombing wooden Japanese cities if the U. S. lost the war. I think this video provides a context for American action that McNamara left out.
Yeah? And Japan lost yet weren't made war criminals for the atrocities they committed. Even to this day Japan makes Jim crow look like the he man woman haters club. (Little rascals.)
Post modernism at its finest.
Was that bobs way of working out some sort of justification in his head, by linking ww2 with vietnam? And how its all " going south" bob was crunching numbers in a safe hamlet of his own opposite side the planet.
Not really as a war crime is considered to be the torture or killing of innocent people, burning a city which is pretty much all civilians is a war crime, just like Dresden.
Don’t forget the part where he drafted 100,00 mentally incapable civilians and tried to make them soldiers. He was a piece of shit
Allied warcrimes are always untold.
They had also accomodated a lot of N*zis.
Not true, Soviets were allies, theor warcrimes are well known
Because the axis war crimes were always worse
She's a paid propagandist.
I'd rather live in a world with Allies' war crimes over a world with "Not Sees" and Imperial Japan
The more I learn about war, the less I believe anything anyone says about war.
War is hell.
Blame the revisionists
Week mind. You have trouble acknowledging the hell, your mind is protecting yourself
@@IzabellaRequiem its not that. It that I understand propaganda was and will continue to be the front line in war.
Because ALL OF IT is bad. Nothing good on any side.
“Can you imagine how the Japanese soldiers felt about this.” The probably thought it was for the glory of the emperor, rationalizing it with their twisted sense of duty and honor.
My grandfather was stationed in the pacific during WW2. He saw kamikaze pilots firsthand. This made him forever bigoted against them. They fought with such reckless disregard for the sanctity of life and honor. The atrocities committed by the Japanese soldiers, especially to the Chinese and Koreans, do not so easily go away, even if my grandfather’s generation is going away.
This podcast was so good, this woman is like a walking talking encyclopedia of military history
Yeah, but the encyclopaedia is written for propaganda purposes and gets it's shit wrong half the time. But walking and talking, sure
Lies.
Google Poland State Department, WW2 deaths.
At most 3 million ethnic Poles died.
Scholars estimate that of Poland's pre-war population of approximately 35,100,000 inhabitants, between 5.5 and 6 million people lost their lives during World War II (WWII), among them approximately three million Jews.
My grandma said WW2 in Burma, Japanese female nurses jumped off the cliff when they were surrounded by allies forces.
That is true as they bought into the lies about how they would be treated by the allies.
Nobody really talk about how brutal Japanese were to Korean people too. Too many to list but one of them was taking hundred of thousands of young korean females for "comfort" women. At times when they ran out of food they would kill them and eat them..
.. people do my guy. It's not being swept under the rug or some shit. It's just among so much shit in history that anyone can isolate something horrible that happened that "isn't being talked about 'enough' " but that doesn't mean anything.. It's impossible to be on the up and up with every atrocity in history unless you're a fuckin history major lmao.
@@Disconnected66 you're right but it is totally swept under the rug in japan
@@KrikZ32the atrocities Japanese people committed against Chinese people are also swept under the rug in Japan.
@@Alex1710931 and vice versa. Chinese have been horrible to all their neighbours. Still are - Uighurs story today.
Koreans and Japanese had been horrible to their neighbours.
It all goes around in that part of the world.
If they don't forgive each other and don't do better, it will continue every few decades forever.
People arent dying of "massacres" in war. People are dying of hunger, elements and sickness.
The japanese were the first to play helldiver 2 in Manila, Nanjing and Singapore.
Yep, the military commanders messed up. And apparently the civilians had to pay for it.
Life like bideo game
no they did not fight for DEMOCRACY
Helldivers ❎
Imperial Guards ✅
Just didn't have the tech to build a viable power armour in the 1940's. They even got a god-emperor.
@@Harsh-tf9he democracy is heresy when you got a god-emperor. Now if only they manage to build a power armor.
German POWs were brought to my Great Grandpa's farm in Tulare, CA. The POWs picked cotton and worked on the farms as laborer. When the war was over the POWs begged to stay. They didn't want to go back.
Same thing happened up in Canada
they knew what would europeans do to them if they come back.
@@kszymorNo, it's more they didn't wanna go back to a bombed out hole. I doubt Germans would do much to former german soldiers. There were plenty of them around after the war that weren't POWs that were treated just fine.
There is actually a video on the diary of a German POW. He went over a lot of various things. They never begged to stay, but they were unsure of what they would be going home to. Many didn't know if their families had survived and wanted to know who had control over their home town, the Soviets or one of the other nations.
Tulare is such a nice place...I'm sure the locals there had something to do with those foreign POWs wanting to stay there.
Love how she just changes the subject instead of admitting the firebombing of Tokyo was a massive war crime.
How was it a War Crime? Is it not because too many people died?
@@andrzejadamowicz3753 Not sure what you're asking, but what is or isn't a war crime is decided by the side that wins the war. Murder 100,000 civilians in a single night, but then you win the war? Magically....not a war crime.
war itself could be considered a war crime. The term war crime is a joke.
could all the bombing be? sure, but welcome to war, collateral damage. war doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left
@@andrzejadamowicz3753 Read about it. 100,000 civilians in one night. Indiscriminate. It was done purely for vengeance.
@@IanHobday
1. Tokyo was not an open city. It was an industrial centre, producing all kinds of military equipment making it a legitimate target.
2. There was no precision bombing in 1940s, that could target only military targets.
3. It is not USAF fault that Tokyo was made mainly from wood and paper.
4. How do you know (I could not find it, so feel free to point, to a source on that) that it was purly for vengeance?
I used to pity Japanese as well. But then you learn about what they were actually like and you get the impression that allies were way too kind. 10-20 million dead Chinese civilians, that rivals national socialists in Europe yet no one in the west usually talks about that.
Lots of people who failed to study history and get the perspective of how war evolves and progresses
One of the smartest comments . Easy to look back in hindsight and see what you think is obvious . Now use what you learned to recognize the next global war. It’s right at our doorstep as we speak . But it’s fought on many more fronts with non traditional weapons that you can hardly tell you’re already in it.
Think bioweapons such as lab made viruses, global system vs nation states , states against their own people , social reengineering , propaganda at its highest levels via social media , cultural disparity wars, kleptocracy combined with technology at all time highs between governments and corporations , monopolies of supply chain control, extremely high enforceable financial compliance measures on individuals all in the name of seeking out criminals which are rarely caught , increasing taxes, absolute power granted to health authorities in times of crisis and a framework for tagging humans. It goes on.
My grandads brother was a Japanese p.o.w. 50-yrs later, he just kept crying his heart out.
Christmas day dinner as well.
What can you do to someone to make them cry, 50+ years later ???
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He was propably forced to kill other POWs, maybe his pals
Maybe had been forced to do involountary intercourse with bamboo that grows rapidly. (Certain species of bamboo can grow 91 centimetres (36 inches) within a 24-hour period, at a rate of almost 40 millimeters (1+1⁄2 in) an hour (equivalent to 1 mm every 90 seconds). Growth up to 120 centimeters (47.6 inches) in 24 hours has been observed in the instance of Japanese giant timber bamboo).
Also he could have been forced to observe how Japanese soldiers treat wounded and sick people when raiding hospitals. Also there was no mercy for priests, doctors and certainly nurses had been treated the worst as females. They were used by soldiers until death or until they could still have an intercourse. After that stripped naked and beheaded.
@@samaepl I think the bamboo thing was a way to kill a person, unless they cut off the bamboo on both sides, slide it out of wherever and get surgery to mend him. Not happening to a POW of the Japanese.
BTW “Executing” a wounded person on your side is called Murder.
Or is it Mercy? I'm sure you've never been in that situation or know just how important it was for them to die in battle for the emperor.
Really? it's Murder? No one knew that did they?
It was considered an honor, dying for their country and Emperor. They couldn't deal with the family honor being shakes if they came back to their family wounded.
SHAMED
It's funny how her defense wasn't "americans don't masacre people" but "japanese people were bad"
@@igetom I can give you my version of what my Chinese mother in law told me she witnessed Japanese soldiers do to babies which was kill them with a bayonet. She and her village were starved. She witnessed babies and young people die of starvation and pneumonia. She and her mother in law shared the rice they bought with money sent to them by my father in law and his father to prevent starvation in their village. The family immigrated to the US under a death warrant by the CCP.
>Starves 2 million Germans while the grain was rotting in the silo next door.
Technically not a massacre.
Don't forget the the pasteurization plan Churchill and Roosevelt wanted
Nothing supports the initial statement.
It’s always like this with this woman. She gives frankly absurd propagandist level takes
Then gives a bunch of correct facts that have nothing to do with the initial claims
She is right tho.
US didn't want to massacre German people.
US wanted to Massacre Japanese civilian people by dropping 2 atomic bombs on a cities.
So she is not wrong on German part.
It's an "absurdist propagandist level take" to say the United States wasn't going to participate in massacring people??? So, do we have to all assume genocidal intent as a baseline for normal behavior to satisfy you? Don't misplace the burden of proof if you want to make a valid argument.
stop being racist + homophobic + misogynistic + unpatriotic
what about this is wrong?
I am german, do you think in 1945 germans were fleeing from the eastern front toward the british/american army to surrender to them because they just preferred to be massacred by english speakers?
or might it have something to do with the fact that they were nowhere as genocidal as stalin or hitler
to be clear what you mean is you dont know anything that supportts this statement, there is plenty
When you start a war, you can not expect to dictate the terms of the ending of the war. That is the most constant in warfare consequences.
All axis powers entered the war fully convinced they would win. They believed their own propaganda.
Best anti-drug commercial! That ol' lady tripping high af!
Don't forget, before the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan was training its CHILDREN on how to use bamboo spears in preparation for a US land invasion.
Well that sounds like a load of bullshit. Don’t forget, the USA were facing defeat in the pacific against a fierce opponent who would not surrender so they literally dropped a nuclear bomb on the civilian population. One atrocity does not outweigh another.
@shoshanna8475 Luckily, in today's world it's rather easy to refute such claims, as anyone can watch the propaganda Hamas openly broadcasts to indoctrinate their youth, in the form of the Children's TV show "Tomorrow's Pioneers", often called "The Palestinian Disney Channel."
Recommend book "Unbroken" .
@shoshanna8475as soon as an Israeli turns of age, they are required to do service in the IDF. A lot more similar imo
@shoshanna8475 israel actually does alot of very bad things.
Japanese soldiers probably didn't care, a lot of them were nationalists. They died for their country and that was a high honor. Smh
Imperialists aren't nationalists surprisingly. Read more, you'll learn something.
@@GB-vn1tf Nationalist: "a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports it's interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations."
Imperialism: "the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas"
By all accounts of history, these practices actually go quite hand to hand with each other. Nothing is more Imperialistic than a true Nationalist at war, so how you keep your backhanded comments to yourself 🤝
@@azorith6779 imperialist. Try defining what i said instead of what you incorrectly thought. Youve explained nothing but your ignorance. Stop copying and pasting. Its an embarrassment to intelligence.
I'll give my opinion on a public forum honest. Try it.
Maybe they just had a very bad day and found it funny to die for a country they would never see again. If that's not a joke....
@azorith6779 I agree; I also think that they had a large traditions and influences from bushido ethics of centuries past. We can see this in Bonzai charges and to a more limited extent Seppuku. AKIRA IRIYE has a great quote: "Japan is a unique country unlike any other country that can do things that no other country can do, and things like that. And this sense of uniqueness is combined with the Emperor worship. Again this is rather a recent origin: in the 1870s and 1880s the government decided to rally national opinion around the image of the Sacred Emperor." Being a wounded soldier and serving the Emperor and country with you death by not becoming a burden is certainly not something that I think they would have shunned or even feared.
The russians took five thousand polish military officers of all ages in two a forest and machine gundam... After the war...Katyn. Polish citizens who lived in england and fought with england were all forced to go back By agreement with the soviets and were executed. That's why poland doesn't play games today.
They’ve also been subjugated by the Russians since what 1790 and have had their freedoms and autonomy plucked away by Russians over the years until 1917 - 1939 when they were an independent country.
Hey, you, effin propaganda agent, you ok there? Katyn was one of many topics on Nuremberg trials. And it was proven that Wermacht is to blame for these atrocities. And here you are denying the Nuremberg trials. Effin brainwashed ppl, I can't
Actually now its estimated as many as 20,000 Polish Officers were excuted by the Stalinist Soviets...!
@@mtman2oh no, 20000 of military personell executed after war to prevent possible resistance and unnecessary obstruction in the coming war, thats terrible! What did you say? Soviet union lost 36 million people, hundreds of towns and villages completely destroyed? Aah, who cares, they are commies anyway
She quickly deflects any suggestion of US war atrocities
Winners tell the story, no one will trial the allies for their war crimes and mass murder. The soviets, americans and brits have a lot of innocent blood on their hands
Because theirs are not even that bad compered to Japon's Russian's or chinese's
@@deckmastercelticguardian8582
Ask the Vietname and Iraki people about THAT fellow Yankee...
There are atrocities in every war because, inevitably, there is one group that refuses to abide by the rules of war and to combat that, at times, you have to be as ruthless to defeat it.
@@thebowtiechaplain3399 THE FACT is the US has the manner that ALWAYS, where ever they military goes, the US government DEMMAND that their troops HAS IMMUNE LEGALY STATUS for ALL PROSECUTION from local LAWS...
SO, this is KNOW and expected and the US government always took active mesures to guarantees it's eventual IMPUNITY everywhere...
The problem with war atrocities is that those who committed them earlier can't tell about them to the kids who will keep repeating them later on. Wars are separated just long enough for a generation to forget about them and the other to repeat the madness all over again...
Look up unit 731. Lotta testimonial from the doctors who participated in that happy little atrocity.
Sad but accurately true.
I appreciate plugging in sources for more info in the video. Wish more channels did this
Yes indeed, Rusia has not masacred the local anciaent population from her country so as has done USA
@@robert-ff1qz I'm sorry, who asked you?
@@DEATHbyHEMLOCK Those Liars who are hiding the truth, that the USA is the most criminal country from the history of the humanity
Any time you hear someone bitch about Dresden Bombing remind the person who said it who was bombing London flat for at least two years before that and the fact they were targeting manufacting plants.
True! ppl totally forget about the savergy of the blitz and the carpet bombing campaign over London. It was total war.
The purpose of talking about dresden is to make people know there were no “good guy’s”. Hollywood often portrays the allies especially the Americans as heroes who saved the day. Talking about allied massacres needs to be done so people don’t forget that we weren’t saints. We did plenty of bad things in ww2 as well. Only difference being we came out on top so we could write the history books in our favor. The allies bombed several cities in my country because it was occupied by Germany. There weren’t any targets. They just bombed the wrong cities multiple times on accident. So many innocent lives destroyed due to allied mistakes and misjudgment. But in the end it was a price worth paying imo
@@maka6134 I don’t think this is true. There are plenty of instances of war crimes being committed by American GIs in Italy. The difference is we know about these things and a lot of these people were tried in military courts. we can compare this to the Soviet union where their soldiers raped hundreds of thousands of women on the eastern front and committed numerous crimes against German POWs. A lot of this went unpunished.
@@bentrinker1937 Im not talking about individuals doing something bad and being punished im talking about the generals and nations making awful decisions. Was anyone in the US government ever put in jail for America putting Japanese people in prison camps just for being Japanese? The US used operation paperclip to actively smuggle nazis away from punishment and gave them a new life in the USA as long as they helped the US government. The US did plenty of awful things. Much more than some small group of GI's committing crime and then getting court martialed for it. Many of the japanese scientists and higher ups responsible for Unit 731 were let go with no punishment because of America once again smuggling them away to America to help their own goals. America often bombed entire villages to the ground as it was preferable than sending in American soldiers to die. These were all decisions made at the top. I dont care about some smaller criminals i care about major allied powers doing horrific things on a nation scale and getting away with it.
I don't believe there were allied. All were talking fluid american english and invaded the entire of Europe as portaited in the movies.
What a great response,
A) I don’t know
B) here are things I do know
If only people with far less knowledge would be willing to say “I don’t know” first
"Can you imagine how Japanese soldiers felt about this?"
We don't have to imagine, we can ask Russian soldiers.
Soviet army had one of the most extensive medical service during the war which is the major reason so many women were serving in soviet army compared to other militaries of ww2. Having as much of field medics as possible was so important women were enlisted en masse to cover the shortage of men
@@vaevictis2789 I said Russian soldiers, not Sovjet soldiers. Referring to soldiers active now, not 80 years ago with hardly anyone still living.
@@QwoaX well its even better now with less scale of the war and general progress of medicine
@@QwoaX what is the difference between Soviet Russia and modern Russia except total scale of power and influence? none. USSR was always Russia for the people that lived at the time, dont retcon the history, Mr. clown
How you tell the qualities of a country is on how they treat a defeated enemy
They bombed civilians sleeping in Hiroshima....thats how they treated enemies...FOH
@@ghostman3344 Japan was not a defeated enemy when we dropped the bomb... look how we rebuilt Germany and Japan after the war... that type of treatment is very rare in human history and speaks to the goodness of our society.
"Can you imagine how the Japanese soldiers felt about this?" This was ingrained into not only soldiers but the Japanese people. It is shameful to your family to return from war wounded or having been captured by the opponent. This was the Japanese mindset. No I cannot imagine it, but I'm not sure what point you are making.
That floated through my mind as well. To answer the question: No, we can't really imagine what it was like to be as indoctrinated as they were. It was an utterly different mindset.
It's something you have to experience to understand. On the battlefield there are no rules. You do what you have to do to survive.
One thing she won't be doing today is taking responsibility for America's atrocities... 😂
We are all dark in our own way, except when we learn to cast off that darkness.
The Western (I'm not referring to the Soviets or Chinese) allies' "atrocities" during WWII, amounted to a couple of bags of peanuts, like you might get on a commercial air flight, or a baseball stadium. The German and Japanese atrocities, in comparison, basically were all the peanut FARMS of the entire world, combined.
Are you sure or are you just talking out of your ass without knowing who she is
Doesnt consider the two atomic bombs on the civilians. Soviet soldiers were marching on Manchuria but the US saw it as an opportunity to showcase their "strength" to the world. She says that she doesn't know and yet focuses on Japan instead of dealing with the Tokyo bombing.
Nukes dropped on military warehouse and factories. Japanese attacked us first btw.
the japanese at the time seemingly viewed no value in life. executing anyone who surrendered since that's considered abandoning honor and one without honor is subhuman which means no rights. along with seppuku, kamikazes. etc. it took extremely extreme measures to finally get them to change their views. only the threat of complete mass annihilation at the hand of nukes was finally enough to make the message clear that, hey, maybe honor isn't so great after all and surrender is a perfectly valid option.
200,000 thousand vs millions and millions. That wasn't the real reason back then but with hindsight and that reality in mind it becomes kind of hard to denounce the US as uniquely evil or in anyway equal in evil to any of the axis powers.
They shouldn't have touched the boats :)
Keep lying
Japanese soldier: "My leg is broken..."
Doctor: *cocks rifle*
Japanese soldier: "IM FINE IM FINE, I CAN WALK, I CAN WAAAAAAAALK"
Jap soldiers were responsible for the well being of their prisoners to.
If they were guarding the prisoner had to be in the condition he was when the last guard handed the watch over.
WOW! That is horrible! War is horrible, millions upon millions died in Poland? I never knew this Heartbreaking😢❤😢
My late father was on the New Jersey during WW2. He said the worst part was the Kamakaze planes. They tried to rescue the shot down pilots from the Pacific. What was the worst part to him was when the men couldn’t be picked up or found due to circumstances beyond their control. Thinking of them dying alone in the Pacific was horrific so they always tried their best to retrieve them.
I hear that once they saw the allies they'd commit harakiri because they were told they would dishonor their land if captured. They didn't think they would be kept alive.
@@Bwa3 I think that’s what they believed. I heard that too during my education.
Do you mean the shot down American pilots or the Japanese pilots? I think they bolt the canopies shut on the Kamikaze pilots so they wouldn't have a change of heart.
@@thebowtiechaplain3399 My father said that they tried whenever possible to get the Kamikaze pilots. He did not mention the American pilots and my presumption was we would move heaven and earth to save them. He was a junior officer on the ship. It was not always possible to save them. He may have omitted that fact about the cockpits being bolted closed from what he told me but what upset him was that they could not always get to them in time. If that was done to their planes he probably knew it and knew what their fate would be. I had asked him why and he mentioned the distance they were from the ship and how difficult it was to quickly turn a large ship. Then we would listen to the star spangled banner before we turned the tv off.
Soviets massacred Nazi collaborators. The US invited the Nazis over to be scientists. These two things are not the same.
Yes, we Germany brought the first man in the moon.."I always aimed for the stars, but just hit London by accident" former NASA boss
The Soviets literally sided with the Nazis up until the Germans broke their deal
My family is from Poland. How have I never heard of this?
Because this has NOT happened! The Russians LIBERATED Poland, saved Krakovia and Warsaw at the cost of lives. The witch invents the story, because she is looking for some funding for "new research" because today it is fashionable to see the Russians guilty in everything. It is not forgotten that the Jews who died in concentration camps were Polish citizens. It is because of these camps that the majority of the concentration is in Poland.
There's no money in it
Years of Soviet controlled education? The disproportionately large number of teachers killed. Killed in Poland was not necessarily Poles killed. Lots of different reasons. I learned about it because I picked up the book Mila 18 when I was in my teens and am interested in history. Poland is historically the most massacred place on earth. Killing of a large portion of your population happens really frequently. Part of my family were serfs there, and moved to America in the 1920s. We don't have family there anymore.
It’s sick what was done to the German people. But we’re not taught that.
Everyone else’s war crimes don’t make our war crimes ok
The hidden and deep WW2 lore is nuts
It's one of the most documented wars. It's not lore or hidden. It's called history you m0r0n. Everything she talked about you can easily find sources.
Finally someone points out how many Poles were massacred...
The Poles got from both sides.
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Prior decades Poland was not kind to them either as that history is ommitted by a big 0oops guess "we" left left those things out...!
@@mtman2 "Poland was a big meanie (wouldn't give us land for nothing in return) so we HAD to commit genocide!" -Germs and mongols (Russians)
We need teachers like her in every school in America, telling the truth to students about what actually happened. Tell them who the real enemies were & the atrocities committed, don't leave out Dresden, don't leave out the nuclear weapons. If you understand why, you sure as hell don't want to set the world on fire again, unless you are a sociopath.