This brings back memories of the first time I was in Thailand in 1985 and spent a number of days in Bangkok looking for a pretty star sapphire and haggling over price after selecting a nice gold ring to set it in. Still wear it and get compliments on the beautiful star it shows under a light.
Best place to find gemstones is in old jewelry. Dealers pay the precious metals weight for the old jewelry, pop out the stones and melt the metal down. I have baggies full of stones I’ve done this to and can’t find a buyer for… :(😊
Very interesting... I was there in the mid 90's... my last trip to Thailand. It was absolutely fascinating and not knowing what and how a bit overwhelming. I recall a lady that came to Pattaya and setup shop in one of the big hotels. She sold jewelry... gem stones.. they were from Bangkok. But they did a big business there in Pattaya for all the military. Very reputable even sent yearly Christmas cards . Prices were fantastic and so was the quality. However to tour the area you are in was really interesting. Completely different perspective of Thailand. Your vlogs are always fantastic and professional and just plain enjoyable to watch.
Hi Lucas . Faceting Gem stones is where the money at.. It's quite skill . Just to get the equipment, and then have somebody that know what he doing, or her. It's quite a skill to be-able to make the finished product. That's where the money is. The first skill is getting the right stone. One that doesn't have many flaws in it. Then go from there. Good luck. You really have to know what you're doing. A good quality gem store is worth more than Gold. You had better know somebody with top skills in the Gem market. Stay with Blue or red stones, that what I know. Good luck And thanks
Yes Denny, I agree. I have one friend 30 years in the business and an ex-employee of hers who did the cutting so I bit of a team I guess. Teamwork makes the Dreamwork 👍
Please keep us posted on this venture Lucas. Very interesting! My girlfriend is Cambodian, living in Thailand. I have learned that when I'm interesting in buying something to discretely tell her i'm interested, walk away, and then let HER do the haggling. I suck at it!
Just a fun fact for you. Since posting this. A ruby ring just sold through an auction house. For a meager 35 M $USD. So that should inspire your desires to be active in the jewelry / gem business. That would be enough to sustain your Thai lifestyle for a couple years atleast... 😎👍
Luke you have consistently put out content of Thailand for many years now, through the passing of your girlfriend to COVID, how do you do it? Where does your energy enthusiasm and passion come from
Boh Ploi is well known for its locally mined Blue Sapphire stone .. It also has a Buddha on a hill with steps (many steps) It's known as the Blue Buddha ( containing a large Blue Sapphire stone)
Thai Blue Sapphires are over saturated. Those from the old mines are no longer producing. Today the big producers are Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Madagascar not Thailand.
Where i lived in Africa, the government had a monopoly on gem stones. If you found gemstones, you were supposed to sell them to the government which would then resell them back. In other words, it was a tax and the system was riddled with corruption because of valuations and whom you knew/were related to. Be interesting to talk to the Africans in the market and get their story.
I bought a couple of years ago gemstone in Boploy near Kanchanaburi. At home a jewelry told me, that this was more an adventure than a good buy. Since that time, I stay away. If you are not an expert forget it
Will you be able to do a video about the tailor shops best deals? Years ago I visited Bangkok and bought a great deal in tailor suits and clothing made in silk. Thank you,
Nice exposure to the gem market. So after all of that you only spent less than $15 USD. 😂 Makes for a good video though. Looking forward to your next one.
Gem Market Full Open : Only Friday and Saturday. In another day its time to preparing or cutting gem stones. *This is so unique system seem like thai culture. Maybe you shopping wrong time hope you came back again...!! Welcome 🙏
This one looks like a fairly steep learning curve. I seen your video that expressed your interest in physical gold was wondering how much gemstone prices fluctuate is the price volatility comparable to gold-silver ect.
It's probably more connected to supply and demand at any given sale but I don't think the prices fluctuate the same as gold and other commodities traded in financial markets.
Majority of the gemstones bought by people are not investment grade. Try re-selling a gemstone, you won't even come close to recovering what you spent. This is definitely true with Diamonds. There are very few exceptions, example a Pigon blood ruby from Myanmar. Very expensive and not easy to get your hands on one.
Been there,an down that ! Remember if an i mean if you rarely see the perfect uncut stone ,an you get cut an polished ,an get in a setting, USA market just slap's you silly to find you have small fortune.
Your channel is always interesting. U go places/do things, others dont😊. I wish your segments were longer 😊. Would i have to declare these at Customs going back to Manila? Thanks
Question where will I get Sidney? It's semi precious rainstairs that you put on dance questions or on clothing. I'm been googling at for a long time and coming to Bangkok. Singh, and that is the type of thing I'm into. I'm not into precious styles, so I'm into rhymesters that you could put on crowns and all kinds of clothes. And that type of thing, can you help?
What an adventure! How fascinating. Best of luck! Edit: Wow, 500 Baht is the tip I'd give the driver of a van to get up there and back. Seems like you're doing this more for fun and the challenge of making a profit. Have fun!
Looks interesting! It would definitely be neat to learn about. Also, sapphires are my favorite stone! I’d probably be too nervous to make a purchase though, lol. I never thought I’d be good at buying/selling, but when I gave up my job to care for mom I kind of jumped into the reseller world. I do okay selling mostly vintage glass online, though I only have a few hours a week to spend on it these days with mom getting worse. I look forward to seeing how your purchase pans out!
Before I owned my pub, I used to sell diamonds !! Coloured stones I didn't get into but I heard that you have to be careful that stones that have inclusions are lasered out and replaced with plastic of the same colour as the stone, making it a stone with no inclusions. Becareful !!
“Buy low, sell high” is the slightly saner cousin of “get rich quick”. Most merchants look for simple profit and a decent return on their time and money. Just invest in a bar with one of the saner ex pats, or even manage one and learn the ropes. But ah, the lure of money just waiting to be dug up out of the ground.
When I was in the car business, the one I liked the most was the Guy who would say: " I'm losing money on every deal I do, but I'm making it up on volume" 🤣😂🤣
Maybe its less conspicuous but with all those expensive gemstones around you'd think there'd be armed security everywhere. Obviously, there's something to deter theft or robbery.
Really no difference in buying a stone at a gemstone market or a bag of rice at an afternoon food market. Selling may be a different story as it could be construed as a business.
Plenty of fake stones for the newbies. There has been a couple of good TV shows following gem dealer crews traveling the world to cut deals. Well worth watching if one can download.
This is just my take on this, whilst the start price and the finish price might be large what has to be paid out along the way and what is the time frame from start to finish, the profit may then not look so good. For instance if on the example given , 500 to 7000 and it took 24 hours of your time that is only just over 290 baht an hour or less than $10. Is that a fair way to calculate it?
This brings back memories of the first time I was in Thailand in 1985 and spent a number of days in Bangkok looking for a pretty star sapphire and haggling over price after selecting a nice gold ring to set it in. Still wear it and get compliments on the beautiful star it shows under a light.
Best place to find gemstones is in old jewelry. Dealers pay the precious metals weight for the old jewelry, pop out the stones and melt the metal down. I have baggies full of stones I’ve done this to and can’t find a buyer for… :(😊
@darkwing25 I’m a jeweler and occasionally buy gem lots off of people. I’d be interested in checking out what you’ve got.
Was there a follow up video to this one? I would like to see how it turned out after cutting and if he was able to resell.
Great video sir. Nice change up. I get tired of looking at hotel rooms and pools. Thanks.
Cool 👍🙏
Sounds like you've had an interesting life, could you do a video on your background about what you did before you semi retired in Thailand?
Incredibly mind boggling....Thank you for sharing this very interesting side of Thailand.
Of all the farang UA-camrs, I follow about 4, you have the most interesting view of Thailand
Thanks 🙏
Very interesting... I was there in the mid 90's... my last trip to Thailand. It was absolutely fascinating and not knowing what and how a bit overwhelming. I recall a lady that came to Pattaya and setup shop in one of the big hotels. She sold jewelry... gem stones.. they were from Bangkok. But they did a big business there in Pattaya for all the military. Very reputable even sent yearly Christmas cards . Prices were fantastic and so was the quality. However to tour the area you are in was really interesting. Completely different perspective of Thailand. Your vlogs are always fantastic and professional and just plain enjoyable to watch.
Thanks Ron 👍
This video was a little gem 💎 😅 sorry couldn’t resist 😂
🤣🤣👍
I got to be honest Lucas ,i agree with Malc
Very interesting indeed. I have found a few Jen’s over the years. I love uncut stones and seeing what they can become
Things to make money you never think about. Good luck. I know you are aware of the scams. Best of luck!😊
Definitely worth a punt. An interesting subject.
Would be great to be taught by someone who knew what to look for.
Great video Loucas 👍✌️🙏
Thanks Rich 👍
Such a small amount but a huge learning no matter the outxome. People who live in boxes tell you it's crazy to move out of the box.
Hi Lucas . Faceting Gem stones is where the money at.. It's quite skill . Just to get the equipment, and then have somebody that know what he doing, or her. It's quite a skill to be-able to make the finished product. That's where the money is. The first skill is getting the right stone. One that doesn't have many flaws in it. Then go from there. Good luck. You really have to know what you're doing. A good quality gem store is worth more than Gold. You had better know somebody with top skills in the Gem market. Stay with Blue or red stones, that what I know. Good luck And thanks
Yes Denny, I agree. I have one friend 30 years in the business and an ex-employee of hers who did the cutting so I bit of a team I guess. Teamwork makes the Dreamwork 👍
Loving these vlogs lucus, incredibly interesting. Thanks for including us.
You're welcome Paul 👍
Really fascinating. Thanks
You know I bet you’d make a perfect sales advocate for them !
Please keep us posted on this venture Lucas. Very interesting! My girlfriend is Cambodian, living in Thailand. I have learned that when I'm interesting in buying something to discretely tell her i'm interested, walk away, and then let HER do the haggling. I suck at it!
Very interesting video Lucas, thanks for sharing 🍺🍺👍
Definitely join you in your next gem trip to chantaburi. Very interested in your fay trade deals. Great video on gem trade.
Thanks Lukas very interesting. Definitely worth a shot of you have an expert with you to navigate and weed out the fakes.
Loucous
Yes, that helps 👍
Very interesting! Good luck!
Calm down everybody, he’s not spending his rent money ! This is how you learn. 😂
Exactly 🤣....he spent a whopping 500 baht
It's interesting to see this part of Thailand. But in the end, they are still just rocks to me
Just a fun fact for you. Since posting this. A ruby ring just sold through an auction house. For a meager 35 M $USD. So that should inspire your desires to be active in the jewelry / gem business. That would be enough to sustain your Thai lifestyle for a couple years atleast... 😎👍
Luke you have consistently put out content of Thailand for many years now, through the passing of your girlfriend to COVID, how do you do it? Where does your energy enthusiasm and passion come from
Very cool! Surprised it is the buyers that sit down!
Hi Lucas, you need a trip to Lady Barber ... I would love to see a video from there. Stay safe
Which one is that?
Boh Ploi is well known for its locally mined Blue Sapphire stone .. It also has a Buddha on a hill with steps (many steps) It's known as the Blue Buddha ( containing a large Blue Sapphire stone)
A large blue "ROCK" 😁
Thai Blue Sapphires are over saturated. Those from the old mines are no longer producing. Today the big producers are Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Madagascar not Thailand.
Fascinating subject, what an enthralling atmosphere. 🙏
It's really quite a show, I love the vibe there. 👍
excellent video, please do more gem stone trips
Ok there, please take care.
Excellent subject.
Great video very interesting and informative always nice to learn new things
👍👍🙏🙏
Very good deal Lucas ... Since you like the BLUE things 😊
Yes like your hat 🤣👍👍
Very interesting. Great video 👍
Fascinating ...
Wow! Very cool.
Thank you very much for sharing take care
A cool insight , thanks a lot
miss this kind of vlog
Great blog mate
Where i lived in Africa, the government had a monopoly on gem stones. If you found gemstones, you were supposed to sell them to the government which would then resell them back. In other words, it was a tax and the system was riddled with corruption because of valuations and whom you knew/were related to. Be interesting to talk to the Africans in the market and get their story.
Yes that’s a whole other aspect to it, very interesting
Thanks for some new and interesting content.
Welcome 🙏
Interesting blog,,,,
Given whats happening in Burma that is where I would be looking to buy Sapphires...Right on the borders second bush to the left..
Yes used to be a lot for sale at the walking bridge at Messai.
The question is are you willing to risk your life to go there and put that theory to the test?
@@retiredsailor4 Messai is very safe. We travel up there from Chiang Mai frequently👍🏻
@Miki Moto That's great Miki, I'm so happy to hear that. I'm just concerned about the situation in Burma, that's all
@@retiredsailor4 Yep! We are still waiting for the day the Military get kicked out of power and the country can thrive again.,😉😊
I bought a couple of years ago gemstone in Boploy near Kanchanaburi. At home a jewelry told me, that this was more an adventure than a good buy. Since that time, I stay away. If you are not an expert forget it
Yes I ageee
I'd love to visit and get a collection of different types of cut gem types (nothing fancy or expensive) but still believe i'd be ripped off
Most Excellent!
Hey Luckaz , Very interesting vid only got to say it’s a cut above the rest. Chris
Thanks Chris 👍🙏
Very informative video ❤
Hopefully you did well…..I am too cautious with gemstones here! Still, great video…
We’ll see, small start anyway 👍
MINESTONE McCAIN ..... just rolls off the palate, doesnt it - - New helmet logo : " carat, claity, cut, color "
Will you be able to do a video about the tailor shops best deals?
Years ago I visited Bangkok and bought a great deal in tailor suits and clothing made in silk.
Thank you,
I will check out that gem market someday.
If you sell it for more than you paid for it then - Is a WIN!
We’ll see what happens but it’s a small venture anyway 👍
Nice exposure to the gem market.
So after all of that you only spent less than $15 USD. 😂
Makes for a good video though.
Looking forward to your next one.
v interesting - never seen this before
Gem Market Full Open : Only Friday and Saturday. In another day its time to preparing or cutting gem stones. *This is so unique system seem like thai culture.
Maybe you shopping wrong time hope
you came back again...!! Welcome 🙏
"grow back". Good one.
This one looks like a fairly steep learning curve. I seen your video that expressed your interest in physical gold was wondering how much gemstone prices fluctuate is the price volatility comparable to gold-silver ect.
It's probably more connected to supply and demand at any given sale but I don't think the prices fluctuate the same as gold and other commodities traded in financial markets.
Majority of the gemstones bought by people are not investment grade. Try re-selling a gemstone, you won't even come close to recovering what you spent. This is definitely true with Diamonds. There are very few exceptions, example a Pigon blood ruby from Myanmar. Very expensive and not easy to get your hands on one.
Very interesting, thank you
Welcome 🙏
Been there,an down that ! Remember if an i mean if you rarely see the perfect uncut stone ,an you get cut an polished ,an get in a setting, USA market just slap's you silly to find you have small fortune.
Good luck!
Your channel is always interesting. U go places/do things, others dont😊. I wish your segments were longer 😊. Would i have to declare these at Customs going back to Manila? Thanks
Interesting video, thanks.
Do you have any insights on checking quality and authenticity?
Yes some but I trust the judgement of others with more experience than my own.
nice video stone may have some silk issues is it heated ?
u got a cutter?
Very interesting ❤
Question where will I get Sidney? It's semi precious rainstairs that you put on dance questions or on clothing. I'm been googling at for a long time and coming to Bangkok. Singh, and that is the type of thing I'm into. I'm not into precious styles, so I'm into rhymesters that you could put on crowns and all kinds of clothes. And that type of thing, can you help?
Cheers 🙂
Interesting
Good video lucas very informative
Thank you i
What an adventure! How fascinating. Best of luck! Edit: Wow, 500 Baht is the tip I'd give the driver of a van to get up there and back. Seems like you're doing this more for fun and the challenge of making a profit. Have fun!
I didn’t see that coming. Thrifty to the very end. 500 baht.
Yeah, just a small purchase to test the waters.
Some "ROCK'S" are harder to find than others! 😋
To avoid the fluorescent lamp flickering, change the video FPS to 50 since Thailand electricity is 50hz as most of the world outside of north america.
Schöne Edelsteine 💎 Lukas 👍 Video 🤳👍🙏🙏🙏 Liebe Grüße aus Hamburg 😎🥊🍺🎸
Danke Achim 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
The gemstones were produced long before Elvis was born Lucas, it'll take them a while to reproduce.
🤣😂👍👍
Interesting video! There is money to be made but risks if you don't know what you are doing. At a B500 investment you don't have much to lose.
I agree 👍
You into gem business now brother 😁👍🏼
Nice buy 👍
Funny that they put a sticker on the little solarcell of the calculator. 😅
:) love the gem trade
Cool 👍
Looks interesting! It would definitely be neat to learn about. Also, sapphires are my favorite stone!
I’d probably be too nervous to make a purchase though, lol. I never thought I’d be good at buying/selling, but when I gave up my job to care for mom I kind of jumped into the reseller world. I do okay selling mostly vintage glass online, though I only have a few hours a week to spend on it these days with mom getting worse. I look forward to seeing how your purchase pans out!
Yeah it’s a lot to learn 👍
The torch never justify colour , do the white paper test 😊
Before I owned my pub, I used to sell diamonds !! Coloured stones I didn't get into but I heard that you have to be careful that stones that have inclusions are lasered out and replaced with plastic of the same colour as the stone, making it a stone with no inclusions. Becareful !!
Yes, I've heard that as well.
Nice shirt
“Buy low, sell high” is the slightly saner cousin of “get rich quick”. Most merchants look for simple profit and a decent return on their time and money. Just invest in a bar with one of the saner ex pats, or even manage one and learn the ropes. But ah, the lure of money just waiting to be dug up out of the ground.
When I was in the car business, the one I liked the most was the Guy who would say: " I'm losing money on every deal I do, but I'm making it up on volume" 🤣😂🤣
@@Rides4Kickz 555
Is it easy to take cut stones out of country
02:48 | I've never seen a place where "No Smoking" is prohibited. Seems you have light up before entering this building!
Dude that's a hardcore rule they have there.😆
Well picked up.
👍
Please update us about the stone
ok, will do.
Nice 🇦🇺🏍🇺🇸🇹🇭🤙🙏🍻
Thanks Erikh 👍
Been there done that, can't see that much has changed. It is an interesting place though. Thanks for the update!
What is the update on this gemstone?
new camera ?
Nope, same same.
What was that song.
Maybe its less conspicuous but with all those expensive gemstones around you'd think there'd be armed security everywhere. Obviously, there's something to deter theft or robbery.
Good point, I think it would be a very daring deed to pull off with all those people around plus the mototaxi mafia 🤣
Are the authorities interested in a farang trading for profit in Thailand or is this managed through a Thai intermediary?
Really no difference in buying a stone at a gemstone market or a bag of rice at an afternoon food market. Selling may be a different story as it could be construed as a business.
I see the beauty in the raw gem stones.
Quite inexpensive too.
Plenty of fake stones for the newbies.
There has been a couple of good TV shows following gem dealer crews traveling the world to cut deals. Well worth watching if one can download.
I have a very big sapire stone
This is just my take on this, whilst the start price and the finish price might be large what has to be paid out along the way and what is the time frame from start to finish, the profit may then not look so good. For instance if on the example given , 500 to 7000 and it took 24 hours of your time that is only just over 290 baht an hour or less than $10. Is that a fair way to calculate it?
thats still an average Thai daily wage per hour
@@ant2312 Since when has Loucous been a Thai?
Yes always have to consider time spent for sure. But more of an interest than a business really 👍
@@ant2312 290 THB is less than the minimum wage in Thailand so it's certainly not an 'average' daily wage, it's worse than the worst daily wage.
buying uncut sapphire less chance of buying "heat treated" stones