How to Fix a Broken Rear Axle
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- In this video I'll show you the steps I take to remove and fix a broken rear axle. This one happens to be a dana 44 rear axle from a Jeep Cherokee with disk brakes and a spool but rear axles are all pretty similar. The only differences you may have is a C-clip axle which you'll have to remove the c-clip to take the axle shaft out rather than the 4 bolts shown in this video , you may have drum brakes which are pretty self explanatory... just put them back the way you found them when done... I have a video on drum brakes too, and you may have an open diff or a locker where I have a spool... In that case you will need to remove the cross pin and spider gears to be able to push the broken shaft all the way through. If so, Just keep track of where everything came from and put it back just like you found it.
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"I was beating on my shaft pretty good" is the quote of the episode hahaha. That's Matt, another great vid!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I came to the comment section as soon as he said it, looking to see if anyone else thinks the way I do.lol
for some reason it felt like I was watching an episode of Mr. Rogers neighborhood the way you calmly break down what needs to be done lol "I feel like a dentist". Keep up the great work bud.
Lube Lockers are the shit, been running them for years.
You're good about hitting all the important points. And pretty good at humor too. "I beat on my shaft pretty hard so it broke".
15:23 really knocks it up on the humor
Thank you for the great video most people skip steps but this was very helpful.
You where "beating on your shaft pretty good" LOL!!!
Was gna say. Not the best choice of words hahaha 😂
12:50 I saw safety glasses, your a smart person. Those carbide burrs throw razor sharp metal shavings around like nothing else!
It's a brilliant show, the lubelocker, freezing and the oven, no complaint's!!!
Matt's a good wrench,5 stars👍🍻
Tony B was using a cut off wheel to slice off my catalytic con to install a new one today with ear protection and a face shield and a Karen came by walking her kids telling me I was using to much protection and her husband doesn't use any cause *he ain't no pussy*.
@@Katarinarabbit still processing this, hmmmm
Matt, that break looked like mechanical fatigue caused by torsional stresses. It was cracked almost half way through before it let go. They are typically caused by a poor fit between meshed couplings but can be caused by other things. The fit between your axle and spool is probably loose. You should have checked the one on the other side while you had it out for cracks. That is also why you had so many fragments. These were cracks already completed but held in place by the hub of the spool. If you think about it, something made out of such tough steel would not shatter in a brittle matter. The axle was cracked several times inside the hub long before the final one let go outside of the hub.
Good job , man! Solid work. I now understand more about how to fix an axle.
I’m switching over to lube lockers with my axle swaps. I’m tired of using RTV.
I got way too much enjoyment out of "I don't even remember which one". I was laughing for about 30 min straight lol
Next time try folding up a rag and spinning it back into the pinion gear. It will pop it out without all the hammering.
This works great. Was actually going to post the same thing.
Thanks for the tip
btw those harbor freight jack stands got recalled.
Only certain model numbers.
model numbers 56371, 61196 and 61197 have all been recalled due to potential failure which can cause them to collapse under load and drop the vehicle they're holding. These are the 3 ton and 6 ton models.
Not really surprising... But thanks for info.
@@Khell3770
My tow company runs those. I can't tell you how many times I've spoken up about those. They don't give a 💩.
That was the joke.
I just love the janky slide hammer!!
Maybe get a bigger rear axle to prevent this from happening? Ford 9" or D60?
Your tires are backwards. Great video!
Great video,. I would like to see a video on setting up a dif
I find the easiest way to remove a tight carrier is by putting the box end of a wrench on a ring gear bolt and have the wrench sit against the housing. Then rotate the pinion yoke by hand, using the gear ratio to your advantage. Just have to make sure you don't overtighten or loosen that ring gear bolt in the process.
Right on
That was an awsome break,ur a real trip i dig ur humour.right up there with dereck from vice grip garage.you two should do a colaboration on a conversion of gas to diesel on a wj.that would be the bomb.limit the booze though not much work will be done.keep wrenching!!!snookie pa.
Happy to see some more repair content!
Dam, making changing an axle shaft look so easy! It would definitely be a lot harder if you didn’t have that spool. One day when I’ve got myself a trail rig I planned on doing a spool in the rear as well. Just seems like the smart way to go a would make that fix easier if it was on the trail. Awesome video!
I ran a stock D35 ('89 Cherokee, non C-clip) with an Aussie locker for many years. Carried spare shafts, cuz, well you know- D35 Right? A light rod ground down to slip past the center pin made removing the broken stub from the carrier easy. Telescopic magnet to pull the broken stub the rest of the way out of the tube. Got to where I could pull both shafts to replace the broken one on the trail in under 30 min with hand tools and a high lift jack (even more sketchy than HF jackstands!)
Nice job Matt.You shouldn't be so hard on your shaft....lol....
Great video, humor and wrenching...lovin it!
I usually put a wrench on the ring gear at the top and pry with a pry bar.... I could almost smell this the whole time 😂
you need a full flout convertion kit
Id like to see a video of you showing how to drive with broke front inner axle shaft or u-joint by leaving the stub axle in only so the unit bearing stays together.
(cough) full float! Our record for changing a rear axle mid-trail on a Rover is 7 minutes from break to moving again. As long as it doesn't break in the carrier and you have a long enough magnet-on-a-stick you don't even need to remove the wheel. Just park with the broken side up-hill so you don't loose all the oil, 5 bolts to free the drive flange, and Bob's your uncle!
I guess
Bob's your uncle = 👍😁👌
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Another thing that works to get the carrier out is to put a wrench on a ring gear bolt and rotate the pinion with the wrench pressing up against the case and it pops right out usually
I’m a reasonably new subscriber slowly going through your videos. Watched this one this morning and noticed that the tread patterns on the left front & left rear tires appear opposed. Is it my eyes playing tricks or is that the case? If so, why? Thanks & Happy New Year.
Great info. It would be a cool video of you making some bullet proof Jack stands. Made in 'merica!
Just get some from Harbor Freight.
Thank you for the great content.
LMAO I am a dentist. That drill looks mighty familiar
When you remove the carrier with the ring gear, etc., do you need to re-shim and balance it when you re-assemble it? Thanks
SO anyone know of a good brand for wheel spacing for a 94 jeep cherokee. Love you vids Matt, you given me lots of ideas for my own jeep
make sure they're hub centric. I use spidertrax, and like most things: you get what you pay for.
Have you ever used a shop rag and stick it in the ring gear and have it go in between the piñon gear and turn your drive line it pops it right out I can’t stand prying those out
10:31 "nice and smooth mating that's the way to do it" *slides the microfiber through the axel carrier
Great video. Any chance you could show what to do if you break a ring/pinion on the trail and how to get out. Still new to all of this and sorry if I missed another video on this.
Get a bigger axel . Don't run big tires 37 plus on stock junk or 44''s
and how to prevent... GM 14 bolt
Your the Mr.Rogers of jeep mechanics. You really sound a lot like Mr.Rogers neighborhood
Even if it were a c clip axle, wouldn't the brake caliper hold it in place?
when i broke my leg, it looked just like your axle. the dr called it a spiral fracture. it is from twisting
Ouch that had to suck .
Glad you didn't break your shaft, the cast would have been awkward!
Aunt Janet the wife wouldn’t be to happy either
@@jameshall4385
She might
She might
Totally off topic 😁
Can you do a tech video on 4.0 strokers? Maybe even on passing Commifornia smog.
You forgot step number the first. Clean the damn thing!
I have similar issues with my 95 Silverado can you stilll drive if teeth are broken inside the case and you pop the cover off clean out all the axes mettle put back on and fill with fluid ?
Can you make a vid about the tools you make (hammer etc)thanks
What do you do when your pinion is loose. I put a big box rebuilt complete axle in my truck about a year later the diff was making noise. I pulled the diff out and checked the preload but there is nothing there 0-1 inch pounds.
Have you seen the recall on the harbor freight jack stands ??
Do they possibly make a 35 spline axle shaft kit for the TJ/cherokee dana 44 rear axle?
Did you check those jack stands for the recall?
Matt are you running RCV’s in the front? I have a Dana 44 out of a 75 Chevy on my buggy, I was thinking about doing that to.
Oh the joy of the gear oil smell if you get it on your cloths it never comes out
Nice name😂
Are those the standard 30 spline shafts or did you upgrade to 33 or 35 spline shafts?
My axel broke it twisted the spline and broke at the bearing
Thanks for the videos! what years do the Cherokees have the Dana 44's ?
when i did my diff i put a red shop rag on the teeth and rolled it up in there and it poped right out
PS. I just broke my driver's-side axle and am in the process of doing what you did in this vid. You said to keep the races and shims in order. If I do that, will it be OK just to put it back together without re-shimming/balancing it? Thanks again for any help.
No, it'll be fine. Just clean it out good.
@@bleepinjeep Thanks for the help!
Don't know if you noticed, or did it on purpose, but your tires are backwards lol
You must not watch his channel a lot, that rig is the number one reverse rock crawling chanpion
@14:45 "If you remind me, I'll leave a link down below in the description"
...this is your reminder as it's not currently in the description. :)
got it, thanks!
Put the tires on backwards lol... Done the same thing myself today
Another great video..
Is this a semi full float axle?
"How to REPLACE a Broken Rear Axle"
I fixed your title.
Good point! I came here to see how a broken axle is repaired! You know.. what welding rods are used? Does it need to be re-heat treated? And so on. I already know how to use a spanner!
I don't know if you mentioned if they were chromoly or not.
Ten factory shafts definitely chromo, and I’d be willing to bet a higher spline count. But you could always go check on the scorpion crawler build playlist I’m sure it’s in there
True
yes, they are.
Are you using chromoly axle shafts or just stock replacements?
Did anyone else scream internally when he took that carrier set it in the mud and garbage in the drain pan then threw a race on the now dirty bearing and yeeted it into the carrier?
Could you put a wrench on one of the ring gear bolts and then take a monkey wrench and turn the pinion to pop the carrier out
What wheel spacers do you use.
🤨🤨But that differential doesn't have neither satellites nor planetaries gears, how do you do when you are going to turn right or left 🤔🤔.
Just a reminder to put that video link of how to assemble an axle shaft in the comments
Y don’t you run Dana 60’s because I have run Dana 60’s with the 8 bolts on a Jeep yj
Awesome vid,
What's/Who's the white CJ you have there? 1:12
some she devil
I was wondering the exact same thing.
So where can I get those rings to go around the base of my Dana 44 shaft? The ring on the tip just isn't working out.
I cant tell if this is a joke or not
I was thinking of installing a 35 spline carrier and axles in the rear of my dana 44. What are your thoughts on a dana 44 with 35 spline axles?
sounds good to me, just make sure the locker you want offers a 35 spline carrier.
You still running ORIs? Be contemplating getting some
yep, still am, I like em
That's why i run carbon chromoly shafts and 35's in my jk 44 .
Matt upgrade those axle shafts. . all that good equipment and no great aftermarket axles
They are alloy usa shafts not stock.
they are already chromoly... not sure what I would upgrade to
the rear axle tires are reversed, they are unidirectional
Does the 2001 Jeep xj have c clips or is it just how some come from factory
Axles:
Front Axles
Dana 30 high pinion - reverse cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear - used 84-99 (some axles through 91 are vacuum disconnect, 92+ are non-disconnect, 89-95 with ABS have 5-297x u-joints, all 95+ have 5-297x u-joints, all others have 5-260x u-joints)
Dana 30 low pinion - standard cut - 27 spline, 1.16" diameter shafts, 7.13" ring gear, 5-297x u-joints - used 00-01
Rear Axles
Dana 35 non c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 84-89
Dana 35 c-clip - 27 spline, 1.18" diameter shafts, 7.58" ring gear, 2.62" axle tube - used 90-01
Chrysler 8.25 - 27 spline, 1.17" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 91-96
Chrysler 8.25 - 29 spline, 1.21" diameter shafts, 8.25" ring gear, 3" axle tube - used 97-01
Dana 44 non c-clip - 30 spline, 1.31" diameter shafts, 8.5" ring gear, 2.75" axle tube - used 87-89 on some (not all) XJs equipped with towing package.
Note: Dana 35 axles sometimes referred to as Dana 35C - The "C" does not stand for c-clip. It stands for "custom" meaning it came from Dana unfinished.
@@weaponizedmemes3461
Thankee
If the COVID don't getcha, the Harbor Freight jackstands will.
Edit: Matt, what kind of vise do you have there?
its an ebay special I found a good deal on. it is a Taskmaster, got it for $175
@@bleepinjeep Nice. Thanks buddy.
Non tempered 4340 strikes again
13:09 for the lols
Innuendo video has all the innuendos
Hey Matt what spline shafts are they? Thanks
30 I believe
@@bleepinjeep Thanks for the reply. Love the channel!!! If it becomes a constant issue and you are running a spool anyway you can upgrade to 35 spline shafts in that axle. Just a thought. I will be doing 35 splines in TJ rear 44 when I break my first axle shaft.
Yep came here and found all the shaft beating comments
What spline count are those shafts?
30
That’s amazing 30 spline chromos could handle 40’s
I dunno. I kinda like my mating on the rough side.
13:08 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
14 bolt time! Yahtzee!
13:10
"does that remind you of anything" LOL
Jesus christ, how many rear spacers are on that thing lol
13:10
His gloves need to be a size smaller.
That's all I got, bwah😀
Next time rotate pinion and pry...derrrr
LL
You put your tires back on the wrong way!
did that for some more digging action!
Used the same bearing. I wouldnt believe it if i didnt see it myself.
You didn't think it would be a good idea to re-grease those bearings after spraying them off with brake fluid??? Yikes!
they are sitting in gear oil...
@@bleepinjeep That's true, disconnect there when I saw them going into the dry diff. Thanks for the wake-up! 😬
Broke that axle of cuz you're running them treps....