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Overthrowing the Status Quo - What Gurren Lagann Says About Leadership
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- For a hype show that's constantly upping the power level and stakes, let's take a look at what those who wield power tell us about what Gurren Lagann values in society and leadership.
Side Note: I mixed pronunciations of "Lagann" and several other terms throughout because I'm honestly not sure which is the correct one. So sorry in advance if I've offended your sensibilities!
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Special Thanks: HXSC - for introducing me to Gurren Lagann
I think one of the more interesting features of the series is how physical developments of the story recapitulate personal ones (or vice versa). This is played out very explicitly in "spiral power" but also in more subtle ways. For instance, Kamina's original idea of "combining characters" precedes Simon having to take on and absorb the role that he played for other people. Another example: Viral's fundamental belief in equality makes him a worthy opponent to Kamina/Simon, while all others complacent in their superiority are unworthy opponents.
Mostly unrelated, I also think it is beautiful how "drill that will pierce the heavens" takes on a double meaning in episode 26, where they destroy each character's own personal "heaven".
This is now my favorite comment ever
@@acecolton389 i second this
What's also beautiful about this, Simon immediately hands over the core drill after he realises he doesn't want to/can't move forward anymore, because he knows that that's not what a leader should be like.
Never thought of that this way? Nia's death really tore him apart then.
@@returnedtomonkey8886 no I don't think he was sad he accepted and did accomplished so much he didn't want to be leader in the first place. He wanted to be a hero and make a future for everyone once he accomplished that he let the next generation hold the mantel
That simon is more tragic than I thought.
holy crap. This is my favourite anime for the last ten years since I first saw it, and it bothers me when people say it's empty or mindless and not at all complex, because there's so much to it. And as many times as I've seen it, I still never realized some of the things you point out here, especially about the three leaders in the first cour, yet it's so obvious when you point it out
Those people said it feels empty? I dont say this often but those people really do have shit tastes.
I've tried to show it to friends and they just wouldn't complete it, calling it boring, lame or ordinary... I just don't get it! I, for one, am not someone who would watch action or mindless stuff, but Gurren Lagann is the best anime I have seen! I think it's a simple anime, but embodies the strength and growth of the human spirit.
Gurren lagann is simple, simple on the surface, but as shown by many, it embodies tons and tons of meaning behind it, which makes me love the hell out of the show, if one takes notice, things dont click too much the first time one sees the show, but as one watches it again and again, one is able to see more and more of the subtle tones, since most people gets distracted on the action scenes, i found much meaning in every speech after i gave it more thought rather than only seeing the battle sequence with an epic speech like the first time
@@cricketknowall IKR. I recommend it to my friends and family who like anime all the time and it just irritates me when they say it's uninteresting. They're so used to action pact, fast paced bullshit that they think anything that works on character dynamic and development is boring. Gurren Lagann touched my spirit more than any show I've ever seen and I wished more anime fans or people in general would give it a chance. I don't even like Mecha anime but Gurren Lagann is an exception.
I thought about committing suicide and stabbing my neck because I can’t find one person who hates Gurren Lagann. All I want to have is just one person who supports why I don’t like the series. I’m depressed and I don’t want to live anymore. I see no value in my own life.
I hope in heaven, I’ll finally get to see more people who don’t like Gurren Lagann. I’ll finally get to be happier for once and not sad.
Rossiu was redeemed the moment i saw him look for privacy to cry his guts out. It showed me he was genuinely troubled by sentencing his brother to death. (i say brother as i view the entire Dai-crew as family)
This is one of the best shows ever. Closer the end it goes into some very unexpected deep concepts and quantum entanglement. It is also the first piece of media where the death of a certain character still bothers me.
The main theme of evolution has actually influenced my life for the better.
I find it to be mindboggling how i've missed this title for over a decade after its release. I forgot where i was going with this post cuz i suddenly feel the need to watch the show again!
Mister SatisfieD 満足 Yeah, some people say that part is boring, but it really shows Rossiu is doing all this stuff because it's what he thinks would be the right decision, but he feels terrible for it
This is shown further later as he almost shoots himself, until Semon (hehe dub) gives him the Kamina fist
The Kamina fist, i almost cried at that moment as it also shows Simon's maturity.
To be honest, i didn't make a big deal outta Kamina at first cuz i was so used to the anime magic of characters magically surviving the greatest horrors. I mean, he was the main character right? Or so i thought :(
THis show does a great job going through emotional rollercoasters. Me hating on Rossiu only to feel guilty i hated on him, lol
"Forehead boy!'
For me he always seemed a prick but he was redeemed later, after crying about it. To me he was still in his righteous illusion at that point, detached from reality. Not so much his fault but his teachings as a child. Still didn't mean I liked him, especially when he used one of the sisters as a suicide bomber to threaten Simon. I do believe he redeemed himself after the fusion with the escape ship though. It seemed like he looked at his world and understood that he was wrong and owned up to it. To me that is someone becoming better than they thought even if they were humbled
The Kamina fist defo made it clear to him
Rossiu would have been seen as a cold but mostly reasonable leader for his actions in other franchise where things are more grounded. While it was true that in the end none of that was necessary and his choices would not have saved anyone, it is also because Simon could literally do the impossible to the point of launching the gigantic Mugaan into the end of space time thereby nullifying the scenario imposed on them, one that is well beyond any hope of actually solving without resorting to Simon's godlike power.
I dont thingk he is ever hated by the shoe, just him forgetting to talk it simon and the others over doing his thing, instead doing it with them. I it harder, yes, but the right thing.
I think he as leader is pretty muchvalidated as he sees he cant act out of his fear. Like being calculating can be useful, but not out of fear. Acting out of fear leads to the dark side.
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA
Fight the powa!
You saw the invisible
You touched the untouchable
How fitting to use leadership as one of the talking points for a show that embodies the burning shounen spirit so many become inspired by to do more with their lives and achieve greatness; with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann cranking that dial all the way up to 11 (AND EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!!!) it truly stands atop with its feet firmly planted into several mechs varying in size, scale, and power and acts as a shining beacon of not just what anime can be, but what YOU can be. It fully embraces its ridiculous, over-the-top, hyperbolic nature and out of it presents themes of power, leadership, duality, individualism, etc etc and as a result becomes something so inspiring, so thematically and emotionally resonant, that it reaches out and drills its -fighting spirit- spiral power into your very core, surging through every atom and DNA strand in your body, making its mark upon you as something transcendental because it just screams legendary and hits everywhere it counts.
Good video btw
It might have been said already, but Dayakka of Litner is a MUCH better chief than Giha Chief and Adai Chief combined...
Really? Why? I mean, whe don't know anything about him.
@@syressx9098 We know he is a good sub leader, commanding Di Gurren and Cathedral Terra, he charmed the eldest Black sister into marrying her and loves his wife and daughter.
8:10 Pretty cool you said that line. Virals theme "Nikopol" literally has the lyrics "No problem can be solved temporarily"
Gurren Lagann isn't my favorite anime (though close), but it's probably the most important anime to me. I saw it at an extremely low point in my life. A pit of despair, into which I had fallen down into time and time again, each time never quite making it even halfway out.
It's considered 'corny' to say a work of art changed you, but I could never deny that TTGL shook the ground by which I stood and forced me to continue attempting to seize the path ahead of me. It gave me another push, something that nobody around me was able to do.
I also watched it at 14 for the first time and that's when it clear themes of puberty and what it means to be a man hit me, then returned at 18, where I saw what it means to be a leader and the underlying almost plutonian philosophy, and now in a few months I want to return again at 21, same with flcl which I always watch in conjunction with this show
I wish I met one real person that didn’t feel that way though and hated Gurren Lagann. I feel so lonely with my ideals.
Man I feel like rewatching gurren lagann after hearing your sexy voice talk about it
Same XD
The word "evolution" in the context of Gurren Lagann ALWAYS gives me chills
To go beyond the person we were before, to become better with each day, move forward with each turn
That's how a drill works
This hits a lot of similar notes that other you tubers have made but from a very specific standpoint and or position this video is fantastic and you will have criminally less subscribers than you deserve I can’t recommend this video enough keep it up
I'm surprised you resisted the urge to quote the "Fight the Power" song in this video. Especially since its name is basically telling you to fight against the status quo
Excellent and thoughtful video. I love analysis of TTGL, since everyone just thinks about it, and discusses it, as 'dumb fun'. Even the fandom itself. They talk a lot about Kamina, and his worldview and how it characterizes the story, such that I didn't even really know about the later arcs like Simon rising up. The episodes about Rossiu and Adai Village were some of my favorite bits of the entire show, so hey.
This show also may or may not have brought me through a mild depression in the past, that's also good.
Okay so I'm 49 seconds into my first video of yours and you just earned my sub with the line, "just who the hell do you think you're watching?"
Gurren Laggan just always gets my feels floowing
This is 1 of the 2 anime’s I feel like I can call amazing
Edit: the other one Full-metal Alchemist Brotherhood
Quality thoughts that were well put together, keep up the great content man
This video needs so much more attention! Great job!
"I will head towards tomorrow!"
Im just discovered this channel and youre covering some of my favorite shows with this and psychopass. I think these are really great and I hope your channel will grow so keep it up!
Man I love this Godamn show, you deserve a lot more subs dude. This is such a high quality channel
Another great video man, what I don't understand is how you put out these amazing quality videos consistently and what I don't understand even more than that is how you only have 700 subs, keep up the great work man and trust me one day your gonna be one of, if not the biggest anituber out there.
Amazing video, aniki.
really good video!!
Man this show is criminally underrated, it's not just my favourite anime of all time but my favourite TV show of all time.
*-* good job man ! ❤
Aaaaand i found a gold mine on youtube. Great channel
Well made👍🏻👍🏻
If Rossiu is the proto-dictator, then Simon is probably who Nietzsche and Adolf imagine themselves to be, the ubermann leading all humanity through their pure will to power. That alone makes Simon more dangerous.
Other than being an Awesome show, that holds a personal place in my heart.
This philosophy just adds to why I love it so much!
I wasn’t a big fan of it. I wish I could find more people who would agree with me but I always feel so left out and upset. I just wish I could find more people who agree with me and see flaws in Gurren Lagann. I feel really depressed from it and felt like committing suicide from it.
Pretty brilliant script. I say Rossiu is redeemed purely because he was pulled out of his nonsense before it had a chance to ruin anybody's lives (on screen, at any rate). At the end of the day, he was pulled back from the brink (almost literally, in more than one way), by someone with a personal, individual connection to him that could show him the error of his ways and refuse to hold a grudge despite absolute justification to do so.
solid video
What I do like about how the Rossiu topic was handled is through Kittan (who is also a hothead with not much brain), where Kittan commented that while he does not like the fact that Rossiu decided to make the hard decision and leave people to die, he nevertheless respected Rossiu's courage to make such a decision mandated by reality and does acknowledge his actions are well-intentioned trying to save as much as he can within his power.
This show will be tattooed on my body.
Gurren Lagann will always be the greatest story of all time.
My old boss was like the giha chief, and I fought with him constantly, that is until I finally quit. He was callous in his treatment towards the workers, and their safety; whenever you brought up better, safer ways to do the job he just yelled "work harder".
My favorite anime of all time.
this is one of my fav videos about anime ever lol
The show with no villan
Only conflicting mentalities
Good video. To support the idea that in the end Rossiu is a "democratic" president, all the planets send DELEGATES to a galactic assambly. So we are to assume steps are being taken to ensure not only democracy, but direct democracy based on assamblies.
"Sending delegates" = representative democracy
5:52 - Not entirely true. In conventional democracy people first choose the leader. In Gurren Lagann leaders take the lead on their own and then people accept them.
It is pro democracy. Direct democracy that is, not the capitalistic anti-spiral concept of "representative democracy". Fuck that.
it's kinda how George Washington became the USA's first president, everyone agreed that he earned the right to be leader after taking on a ton of responsibility, he never sought for leadership, leadership sought him, just like Simone.
Marc Alcatraz yes exactly
@@MarcAlcatraz lol he was trash .. all the US leaders thus far. source of war in this world
@@usuariofuturista you made my fucking week with your comment. now i need a plaque with it
Good video
sooo fight the power
But Rosiu didn't know about the anti spiral but had new mechs and weapons made just in case. He was moving forward, but yes, just without complete faith, as he should considering his village.
A little late to the party bit unwatched ttgl for the first time at 14, then again at 18 after taking a philosophy class, amd tone one of the most striking things I see is the underlying plutonian philosophy, it starts with plato's allegory of the cave, and then goes through diffrent evolutions of government as pointed out by plato, it doesnt quite match up perfectly and I might need to some more research on it, but everytime I watch ttgl it's just feels very plutonian
It is pretty crazy that Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and Death Note are all hugely popular shows centered around trying to make a change in the world and starting a revolution to break down the authorities of society to create a new world order, and they all aired within one year of each other (Code Geass and Death Note both debuting at the same time).
greatest anime of all time!
Best anime ever
This was actually so cool. I recently got a job in a lower management position at my workplace. Nothing much since I’m only a sophomore in college but a position of authority nonetheless. Due to many shifts in upper management the workplace is nowhere near the same as it was before, as my previous boss quit after 7 years due to the upper management’s treatment of them. After watching this video I realize the trends in management as higher ups try to stick to the status quo while up comers like myself push things forwards, like pushing for overtime pay due to 65 hour work weeks, and such. Great video!!
Gl
Hmm yes lore of Gurren Lagann
lordgenome is the best representation of why master morality ISN'T the best, an fundamentally different from the ubermensch, both have many similarities, like the strength and power to express their will, but the master is limited by himself, fear and in a way, also controlled by his subjects, making his position of power, exerting it over others and fear of losing the power into limiters to his freedom and willpower
Do the impossible see the invisible ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWER touch the untouchable beat the unbeatable ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWER
My god, this show is incredible. People genuinely think it's a baseless mecha anime.
Tbh i almost quit watching it after the "spa" episode. You have to stick it out at first
I like that the first battle they fight someone that can destroy a village and at the end they are fighting for the protection of all living things in the universe
This whole thing about democratic majority is all very well (although if you know anything about mob rule that can be one side effect of it), but my problem with Rossiu and the situation he sticks himself in (as I outlined in the hour long diatribe I just got done making on my channel (shameless plug btw)) is that I don't think he DOES have trust with the people when push comes to shove he tried to incinerate his one lifeline in Simon, and no one past that point in the general public would want him in power when the truth comes to light. It would be the equivalent of being a Brexiteer and trying to assassinate Nigel Farage for it.
Oh, and by the end of the main series we learn that he's been prez for 20 years so to say that Kamina city democratically elected him is to say Putin was democratically elected. Whether you're left or right on the political spectrum, you should know what I'm on about.
Which is a bad comparison as rossiu has good points and simon smacks sense into him and he agrees. Which putin never would do. Othe than his distrust and unwillingnss to convinc simon and th team and share what he knows , and that getting him to bad places, he is great and th deviols advocate they need. And once he realized that, he is best suited with his knack or bureaucracy.
People change, and its made clea rossiu changes too after the sense knocking fist to not ony see him as that but to grow too.
Which makes him actuially the est as he knows about potential downfalls too, a he did some. And will try to be better about it. Which who else could do that from the team?!
Rossiou is only bad if he puts being utaliterioan when he forgets why and for whom he wants top do that, and that he shopuld communicate. Like he could have done more order if he talked with simon about that thing, thats why he is pretty great, when he and simom are actually talking and agree, and simo actully sees rosseous foresight and kack for bueaucracy as good, i imagine, just its bad as long as rosseau forgets why he is doing that in the foirst place, for the people , with the people, to help people to communicating with people..
Kiiiing kittaaaan gigaaa driiilll BreeEEEEEEaaaaakREEEEEEeEEEeeerr!!!
Interesting to note. None of the people who wield the power of the spiral directly have children of their own that survive the series.
Daiyaka has his child and weilds Spiral Energy Directly, and the rest of the cast are simply too young at the time to really have children my dude.
One thing I really like about the show is, if you look at it, there aren't really any *true* villains (accept maybe the chief in cheeha village) beast men? Only serve Spiral king
Spiral King? Afraid of Anti-Spiral
Anti-Spriral? Trying to save the flipping universe from it's own destruction from it's own evolution and growth!
See what I mean?
"this show really hates utilitarian thinking" Which is why we need hastag *weird utilitarianism™* ! * Puts on too many pairs of sunglasses *
EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I understood that reference
Bøø9 *Kamina glasses*
Not really, uit hates putting that before actually working honest with people, but rossiu is shown as right when he dos work honest with people and isnt shady. The show dosnt hate him, only if he is shady and selfish and acting out of fear.
I like waffles
I believe lord genome actually maintains the status quo by a minimum of one million humans correct ? That’s why the anti spiral nemisis started
Lordgenome maintained his status quo by using his armies of mechs to keep everyone pinned underground. The 1 million human population was a maximum limit for the anti spirals.
Humans couldn't possibly reach 1 million when everyone is forced to live in confined underground villages and anyone on the surface is murdered
How did the spiral king get the rinnegan though?
The Spiral King has the rinnegan
spiral power is basically the rinnegan in this series as many people get those eyes at some point in the series.
Please never say lagann like that ever again
BraixenDon i couldnt finish the video cuz of it
I only disagree about democracy being the ideal choice in that universe. What happened there wasn't that. Democracy is a system where a minority chooses a leader (40% towards a single candidate and 60% shared between other three is a minority victory. And a voting between only two candidates is an artificial majority count, as some, if not most, of those who are voting would rather vote on another candidate) and then force the rest to accept that person as their leader as well. In TTGL Kamina and Simon are followed because their peers WANT to follow them. No one is being forced, no one is voting. They just see the example and follow them.
Indeed, that is TTGL's ideal leadership. And that's not democracy, that's voluntary association.
The way you pronounce Simon and Rossiu...
Don't tell me you liked the English dub.
Gurren Lagan at its heart is nothing more than a bad joke. For over 20 episodes we were bombarded with constant utterances of "Do the impossible!" "Kick reason to the curb!" And then the final episode comes around and the show says, "Just kidding you have to accept everything that's handed to you no matter what the circumstances." Also, though the Gurren Lagann fans can justify it or use whatever apologist rhetoric they like, it doesn't change the fact that Simon had the power to save Nia and he chose to let her die. There's nothing noble or heroic about an act like that.
Nia's death and Simone's decision to not bring her back actually elevates the themes of GL imo. I interpret it as a blend of the two major philosophies present in the show, movement and stagnation. Simone will never stop moving forward but he now understands the huge risk and responsibility that comes with using spiral power. Bringing Nia and Kamina and Kittan back would not only be a huge step backwards for human growth, but it's exactly the kind of reckless use of spiral energy that would tear apart the universe as the anti-spirals have predicted. By letting Nia rest, Simone was balancing the needs of the individual (himself) with the collective will of the universe, something Kamina wouldn't be able to do because his philosophy is fundamentally flawed. I seriously recommend giving the show another chance with an open mind.
@@battlecry6953 Fuck the world, fuck Gurren Lagann, and fuck you. If other people suffer because you decide to take what's owed to you, then it's their fault for being weak.
@@angryman1206 do you like akame ga kill
@@angryman1206 but that isn't in simon character to pull that type of shit, doing the impossible and doing the right thing in the end are 2 different things.
@@young_shaad5227 I don't give a shit. It displeased me and that's all that matters.
You can't make the impossible possible, because if you could, it was never impossible.
In the words of terry pretchet, you have to believe the little lies, to learn to believe the big one, hope, truth justice, all off that, to make them real.
Gurren lagann teaches the value of anarchy. Real anarchy, not the deemed one they painted after the 68-movement
This is what democrats should have been.
you caould have mentioned anarchism and communism which have no leader, only individuals according to their needs and managing resources as such
Yep an studios trigger constant theme of anarchism. (the real one , decontructing UNJUST hirarchies, empowering the people, kinda like luffy in one pieve does)
The first villiage is communism. Work for the greater good so you get food. Rosios villiage is an religous regim, like the church, were no one has the rigth to speak against the will of the gods. And Lord Genom is fascism because he belive that one race is suprieror then the other and that you can maintein peace with fear and terror. Thats just my thoughts on that subject.
Never compare the greatest story ever told to trash like Code Geass.
What a tripe of a video, that's almost 9 minutes of you trying to massage your points to fit with Gurren Lagann. You can make these points fit with literally any of your typical shonen anime. I'm really sick with how everybody and their grandmothers now have an essay (anime, movies, games, etc.) channel. Anybody with a decent speaking & editing skill can just make garbage essays, produce a video, and suddenly be an expert.
onewithmyself "subtle", because it's not there. Like I said, watch literally any other typical shonen, and his talking points will still fit.
While I haven't watch the video or this anime. I agree with you on the trend of youtube "experts", there are way too many people trying to be super intellectuals just cause they know how to make a enjoyable video. Unfortunately that's just how the internet is, I know I got fooled as well.
TheKaiwind yeah, I know right. The first few video-essay youtubers are frankly interesting and have great content. But like any other trends, people are going to jump on thr bandwagon. And with the youtube format, where you have to constantly pump out content, you end up with garbage like this. Make-up some bullshit argument, critique or fan-theory, edit some footage, and put a clickbaity title + thumbnail, Voila! People are just gobbling it up.
Mate, you got a bit emotional and illogical here. When did this guy claim to be an expert? Or most of the video makers of this genre, even?
All in all this is a healthy trend, and even the worst examples inside of it require a lot more mental energy than the vine meme shit we have around here. I'm certainly not going to discourage one of the few kinds of videos that make both makers and watchers use their heads, even if the result isn't always that great, as with anything that lots of people try to do.
Criticism is fine, though.
Edwin Xu
Yes, this clearly represents the ideals in Dragon Ball Z.
Man if this type of content borthers you express it like you are now. This show however does need it as the others told you, it's messages and meaning do go over a VAST majority of peoples heads. Hell its own fandom views it that way and that is an extreme disservice to the work. Also no, what is said in this video does not represent every other S anime. It's not even an exaggeration, just a lie. I don't get how this type of content would get under your skin to began with, but it just comes across as you hating anyone who can catch these subtle messages and trying to share it with others.
If this shit really borthers you this much, break it down. Take the argument apart little by little, show and prove to everyone that there way of thinking is flawed. Prove to everyone that there is a plain above. Thus you can imporve the world and decrease the injustice caused by such a pseudo intelligence. Don't stop until you've pierced the stubborn skulls of the fake smarties and destroy the ceiling that is held over everyones head as the light from truth illuminates the darkness that engulfed quality content. Because thats how you roll, and soon no one will ever question you. If any dumbass shall try bring you down with there Cleary wrong points you let them know that Edwin Xu of no Shits given shall prevail, so who the hell do they think they are? Your comment is the comment that creates the change.