Why is God Only Three Persons and Not More?

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  • @mitromney
    @mitromney 3 місяці тому +2

    God is 3 because every concept at its foundation is necessairly a "3" of some kind.
    Reality itself is space time and matter.
    Space bas 3 properties, length, height and width
    Time has 3 properties, past present, future... etc.
    Even we, as images of God, are 3 in 1. Every one human is a mind, a soul and a body.
    Triangle is by its very properties the most powerful shape in construction. Make a shape with 4 or 5 or 6 or anynother number of sides, and it will easily twist and crush under pressure. A construction made of triangles can withstand anything.
    It just is what it is. 3 is perfection, fullness, necessary complexity of any reality, anybody, and anything. And so, God is 3 as well, out of necessity.

  • @Solomon-Dates
    @Solomon-Dates 4 місяці тому +6

    God bless you and give you a long life with excellent health and peace ,so you keep preaching Dr. Craig. Thank you

  • @brownh66
    @brownh66 4 місяці тому +5

    A bit of a stretch in arguing for agreement in favour of the Trinity. Surely there is a simpler, more persuasive way to state it.

    • @AnnoyingMoose
      @AnnoyingMoose 4 місяці тому +6

      Maybe there is but don't call me "Shirley"! ;)

    • @BoScotty
      @BoScotty 4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think the purpose of this is arguing for the trinity, there's plenty of evidence for it. Just a philosophical reason why there is three instead of more. It's an interesting topic at least.

  • @juhadexcelsior
    @juhadexcelsior 4 місяці тому +5

    Because God is love. Loving in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd person. There are no other vantage points to express or observe love from and thus love is fully expressed eternally.

    • @EricCouture315
      @EricCouture315 4 місяці тому +5

      That only works in languages that have only 3 grammatical persons. Not all languages work that way.

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior 4 місяці тому

      @@EricCouture315 im not talking from a linguatic perspective

    • @EricCouture315
      @EricCouture315 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@juhadexcelsiorwhat do you mean by third, second, and first person if not grammar?
      I love
      You love
      He loves
      Is first, second, and third person in English. That's linguistics.

    • @mathewsamuel1386
      @mathewsamuel1386 4 місяці тому +2

      It's strange, though, that God should talk about God in the 2nd or 3rd person!

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior 4 місяці тому +2

      @@EricCouture315 those concepts exist primarily outside of language. We are describing an existing concept through language. The three person vantage point concept didn't come into existence because of language, language simply described what was always there.

  • @Camro24
    @Camro24 4 місяці тому +37

    Always 3 there are, no more no less

    • @pattube
      @pattube 4 місяці тому +8

      The Lord is strong with this one!

    • @mattr.1887
      @mattr.1887 4 місяці тому +3

      Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

    • @bronjo9343
      @bronjo9343 4 місяці тому +1

      I would've been lost without this comment

    • @rickdavies4801
      @rickdavies4801 3 місяці тому +1

      HASHEM IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED NO OTHER

    • @somethingrandomyt8367
      @somethingrandomyt8367 3 місяці тому

      What hashem​@@rickdavies4801

  • @philipbuckley759
    @philipbuckley759 4 місяці тому +2

    does anyone understand this....

  • @ansich3603
    @ansich3603 4 місяці тому

    hey dr. craig can you adress in a video about jesus attitude towards gentile? i find it hard to reconcile the idea that jesus came only for jew and even called the gentile women a dog, this question is something that i cant answer myself. Gbu from indonesia

    • @godsgospelgirl
      @godsgospelgirl 4 місяці тому

      @ansich3603 Hello! Search "Mike Winger Why Jesus called this woman a dog" and you'll find a helpful sermon on this subject. At least, it helped me. :)
      Although, I'm sure it would be amazing if Dr. Craig could respond to this as well!

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 3 місяці тому +1

      I have always taken it that when he called her a dog he was issuing a challenge. Similar to suggesting she was simply looking for a master (possibly not recognising him as lord). Her response indicates this. She infers he is. His response is then appropriate to the idea it is a challenge also.

    • @turtleneckferret
      @turtleneckferret 3 місяці тому

      ​@@finty5457not true. He called her a dog because that was a common term for gentiles during jesus's time

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 3 місяці тому

      @@turtleneckferret I doubt that. Do you have a reliable source?

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 3 місяці тому

      @@turtleneckferret it is just that I have read a number of times by scholars that the term used to describe those considered unclean was kuon. Whereas here Jesus used kunarion which refers to a small or pet dog and does not carry the connotations of the common term mentioned before. I do not trust Wikipedia, preferring quality sources and so would require a good quality source.

  • @Konoshinobi
    @Konoshinobi 4 місяці тому +4

    Three because Infinity is triune.

  • @pattube
    @pattube 4 місяці тому +3

    The argument starts with the fact that God is perfect and is perfect in love (1 John 4:8). Loving another person is a great good, and if God were to miss out on such a high and wonderful thing, then it seems that there would be a significant deficiency in God. But since God is perfect, God must experience loving another person. But God is a self-existing, self-sufficient being who did not have to create the world - and so it is possible that God is the only being who exists. But if it is possible for God alone to exist and yet God must love another person, then there must be more than one person in God who love each other. Therefore, there must be more than one person in God. Notice that this argument does not lead to the conclusion that in God there are exactly three persons. But it does give us reason for rejecting that in God there can be only one person, and so this argument would rule out the unitarian view that God is a single person. [Some examples of unitarianism: Christian Unitarians like Dale Tuggy, orthodox Judaism, Islam.]
    (An Introduction to Christian Philosophical Theology by Stephen Davis and Eric Yang)

    • @ScottJackson.
      @ScottJackson. 3 місяці тому

      God is not three but three are one in agreement

    • @ScottJackson.
      @ScottJackson. 3 місяці тому

      Three are one in agreement

  • @AdamLeis
    @AdamLeis 3 місяці тому

    I appeal to special revelation on this topic. I've also wrestled with the arguments for the necessity of 3 persons, but in my ignorance and conviction of "not enough information," I say, "It's only because Jesus revealed that to be so." Jesus showing the Son is divine and the Spirit is personal and divine (totaling 3) may just be something we need told rather than something that can be intuited. Not the most satisfying answer, but sufficient, I think. (A Job-ian kind of answer 😅)

  • @jebwu8648
    @jebwu8648 4 місяці тому +2

    It could be that since God is infinite love he would only be three because more would dilute it. Because if God is infinite people he would have no reason to make us.

  • @gregorycocco9043
    @gregorycocco9043 4 місяці тому +3

    How can there be love among the Trinity if there is no time? If love is giving yourself, doesn’t that mean love requires time?

    • @mathewsamuel1386
      @mathewsamuel1386 4 місяці тому +5

      If love is an intrinsic property of the Persons, I could see how this could be satisfied without time since it wouldn't require any demonstrative or demonstrable acts, but is just is. Something like self-love. It's a characteristic of you and doesn't need you to do anything. It is there with or without time.

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior 4 місяці тому

      Time doesn't exist, only aging and decay exists

    • @leonardu6094
      @leonardu6094 3 місяці тому

      @@juhadexcelsiorstupid comment of the day

    • @gregorycocco9043
      @gregorycocco9043 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@mathewsamuel1386 if giving is a property of love as Dr Craig says, then that sounds to me like it is incompatible with self love. What do you think?

    • @mathewsamuel1386
      @mathewsamuel1386 3 місяці тому

      @gregorycocco9043 If Craig thus defined love, and if you are appealing to his definition, then I would have to agree with you. To give, you must go from "not having given" to "giving," and that would be a change in "relation" that can't happen without there being time. But I don't think Craig ever says that there's no time.

  • @danielreiss-cy4zr
    @danielreiss-cy4zr 3 місяці тому

    Contraception?

  • @manne8575
    @manne8575 3 місяці тому +3

    God bless you Dr. Craig

  • @chrisp9500
    @chrisp9500 4 місяці тому

    I've also wondered about this because in the Old Testament, the Seven Spirits of God are mentioned.

    • @johan_liebert2385
      @johan_liebert2385 3 місяці тому

      Though you should be careful and reread that passage thoroughly

    • @chrisp9500
      @chrisp9500 3 місяці тому

      @@johan_liebert2385 what are your thoughts on it?

  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 3 місяці тому

    I notice several comments praising Willy as if he is another Moses.
    But it's worth remembering that he is a millionaire.
    He will hardly enter the Kingdom (Matthew 19:23)

  • @thetotalvictoryofchrist9838
    @thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 3 місяці тому

    The book of Revelation, if I remember correctly, describes God as a "seven fold spirit". Of course the number 7 in the bible represents completeness so perhaps that is all that was meant. But still, God is a seven fold spirit.

  • @DaleTuggy
    @DaleTuggy 3 місяці тому

    Even the argument that God can't be one Person doesn't work - as I've argued in the freely available peer-reviewed publication "Antiunitarian Arguments from Divine Perfection." What he says at the end - that God is essentially three Persons - think about it. That makes being three Persons an essential divine attribute. So if any of the Persons, e.g. the Fathers, really is fully divine / has all the divine attributes - then he'd have to be tripersonal! Put differently, he is implying that none of the Persons in fully divine, which is against catholic creedal orthodoxy.

  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 3 місяці тому +3

    The idea that there is a Holy Triad is quite common in ancient myths.
    Osiris, Isis and Horus is one example in the Egyptian religion.

    • @majormohitsharma7701
      @majormohitsharma7701 3 місяці тому

      Except for the fact that they are different and are not related to one another in any way. Three different entities exist with no connection to one another. Doesn't mean it is a replicated idea of trinity. Because th doctrine of trinity says that Jesus is related to God the Father. And because God the Father lives for eternity. So does Jesus. And because Jesus lives for eternity so does the spirit. So the trinity is necessary for the survival of the God of the bible. But he doesn't require anything else to depend upon outside his nature.

  • @norbertjendruschj9121
    @norbertjendruschj9121 3 місяці тому

    This is exactly the kind of argumentation that make apologists the laughting stock of everyone with the exception of the dumbest believers.

  • @xTheUnknownTruthx
    @xTheUnknownTruthx 4 місяці тому

    You say God though Elohiym is a plural from a singular. Also to say the Holy Spirit is a third person in a trinity is not accurate. A trinity does exist in Christ, but it is not limited to three persons. The Father is not three persons at that level. Elohiym is a Spirit. The only trinity in Christ is 1, the seed from the father, 2, the divine going forth from the Father or what we call the ruach ha qodesh or Holy Spirit, and 3. The man made divine who is filled with the seed from the Father and the divine or Holy Spirit that goes forth from the Father.

  • @user-xb7eq3tl6z
    @user-xb7eq3tl6z 3 місяці тому

    God is indeed three persons but we know we are to be joined with Him in holy matrimony and there are angels who also share in community. The idea that we are created in God's image having ourselves a mind, body and spirit is indicative of the unity of diversity within our Creator.

  • @arrakiriiris1103
    @arrakiriiris1103 3 місяці тому

    How can you be convinced that, infinity = 3 = 5 =..!!
    Infinity is Infinity which means indivisible.
    In a logical approach, avoid building arguments based on the outcome you want to achieve, which could lead to contradictions and confusion.

  • @FatherBernard101
    @FatherBernard101 3 місяці тому

    God loves himself

  • @dontmindmygrammar5121
    @dontmindmygrammar5121 4 місяці тому

    I think Every main thing is created in three numbers
    (Air, water, fire,... solid,gas liquid ,... plants, animals, humans, etc)
    Because this world has to be end like that only... (his choice)

  • @Justas399
    @Justas399 3 місяці тому

    In the one being of God there are 3 eternal persons. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

  • @MrTonyJ
    @MrTonyJ 4 місяці тому

    I was about to say that argument sounds really speculative and not very convincing, and then Craig said as much. There could be another reason why God would need to be precisely three and not four persons that human knowledge has no access to but I don’t think it’s necessary to have one.

  • @pattube
    @pattube 4 місяці тому +4

    The most direct route to believe the Trinity is true is if one accepts special revelation is true, viz. the Bible.
    It's harder to reason to the Trinity, viz. the project of natural theology, though I think it's plausible to reason to two persons in the Godhead.

    • @leonardu6094
      @leonardu6094 3 місяці тому

      i think he literally just spelled out a case on how you can reason to the trinity apart from the bible in this video.

    • @pattube
      @pattube 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@leonardu6094No, he states in this video that he's "unsettled" and "not so persuaded" and "remains open minded" about the argument for exactly three persons in the Trinity, but he agrees it is "very persuasive" there are at least two persons. What I said is perfectly consistent with what Craig says.

  • @monsterhuntervideos4446
    @monsterhuntervideos4446 4 місяці тому +4

    If God were 4 persons, you could say why not 5, and if 5 why not 6, ad infinitum. God has to be what he essentially is if he's eternal and unchanging. You could ask how could God be eternal and unchaging and not require a cause? Only God can know the answer to questions like those.

  • @RobertSmith-gx3mi
    @RobertSmith-gx3mi 3 місяці тому

    If man created some number of the god's I might expect to hear man referring to those gods as people.

  • @aussierob7177
    @aussierob7177 3 місяці тому

    The same reason there is only one God and not three.

  • @zaikadaarkitchen8502
    @zaikadaarkitchen8502 2 місяці тому

    to prove what dr craig says he needs to prove god being lonely is false thing and also god cannot be lonely. This simple a claim that requires a proof and justification. Becuase asiety arguments which dr wlc defends and spend 12 years of research) show god is one and there is nothing co-eternal with logic like mathematics, logic and abstract object.

  • @waitstill7091
    @waitstill7091 4 місяці тому

    The religion of Christianity at its finest. Draw one's conclusions of God from theological perspective, then presuppose the text.

  • @TheMirabillis
    @TheMirabillis 4 місяці тому +1

    Deuteronomy 6:4 English Standard Version
    4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

    • @Luvurenemy
      @Luvurenemy 4 місяці тому +5

      From David Guzik’s Commentaries on Deuteronomy 6:4…
      “iii. Yet, the statement the LORD is one certainly does not contradict the truth of the Trinity. In fact, it establishes that truth. The Hebrew word for one is echad, which speaks most literally of a compound unity, instead of using the Hebrew word yacheed, which speaks of an absolute unity or singularity (Genesis 22:2 and Psalm 25:16).”

    • @jonkeene8788
      @jonkeene8788 4 місяці тому

      This verse isn't troublesome for the Christian. One of our core tenets is that God, in fact, is One. He is three Persons wholly united as One by the connection of the Holy Spirit.

    • @TheMirabillis
      @TheMirabillis 4 місяці тому

      @@Luvurenemy Guzik is wrong. One means One. Three is Three.

    • @TheMirabillis
      @TheMirabillis 4 місяці тому

      @@jonkeene8788 Why couldn’t there be five or ten or a hundred or a thousand person and it all still be God ?

    • @shaunigothictv1003
      @shaunigothictv1003 4 місяці тому

      ​@@LuvurenemyNot so fast young boy.
      The orthodox Jews do NOT believe in a trinity.
      So obviously they have a different interpretation of that Hebrew word to you.
      Their position is that that Hebrew word for ONE does not refer to a plurality of persons.
      Rather, its a compund unity that consists of a unified purpose in every aspect and goal of a singular being or entity.
      Ask any orthodox Rabbi and they will tell you what i just told you.
      I know because i already asked them myself!

  • @fredrodenbach4891
    @fredrodenbach4891 4 місяці тому

    Person = per sona = the visable face trough which the sound of someone comes. The sound comes from the Spirit of God. The Father brings forth His thoughts (Spirit) and expresses those in words and His Word has become flesh = reality in Jesus Christ.

    • @fredrodenbach4891
      @fredrodenbach4891 4 місяці тому

      Jesus Christ is the Person = the radiance of Gods glory, the expressed image of Gods essence, the figurated character of God (Hebr.1:3) and the image / statue / profile of God (2Cor.4:4). Jesus Christ is the only person of God. For in him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily (Col.2:9). God is not 'multiple persons' as if He would be 'multiple humanoid beings'.

    • @fredrodenbach4891
      @fredrodenbach4891 4 місяці тому

      John12:49 - I don't speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.

    • @fredrodenbach4891
      @fredrodenbach4891 4 місяці тому

      John5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

  • @fado792
    @fado792 4 місяці тому

    Every living creature is god, and dies when he dies.

  • @eltonron1558
    @eltonron1558 4 місяці тому

    Why can't anyone just read that God is/has a family?
    Ephesians 3:15.
    Only the word, and God is eternal. All things visible and invisible, we're created by him.
    Let us,(elohim, family), make man in our image.
    If we are to become joint heirs, brethren with the 3rd leg of a trinity, that's still family.
    There are MANY persons in the God family, the trinity doctrine says, don't exist.
    The nature of God, is family, not a trinity. Look up the godhead on Google. Nothing about the holy spirit in scripture as part of a godhead.
    If it took a holy spirit to tell Mary she would be visited by the holy spirit, that's family.

  • @allenwoodward9258
    @allenwoodward9258 4 місяці тому +4

    For three centuries the early Christians were not Trinitarian and I am one of them.

    • @thebjdjlcraft7535
      @thebjdjlcraft7535 4 місяці тому +2

      Early church fathers taught the trinity

    • @allenwoodward9258
      @allenwoodward9258 3 місяці тому

      @@thebjdjlcraft7535 Church historian J.N.D. Kelly described simple theology of early 2nd century Christians of Asia Minor (about 110AD) "as an undifferentiated Monad in His essential being, the Son and the Spirit merely forms or modes of the Father’s self-revelation" (Kelly Early Christian Doctrines, p.93)
      German Church Historian Friedrich Loofs "The Trinitarians expropriated the term 'catholic' .. When they increased in power and numbers, they branded the Modalists who preached one God as heretics, and styled their group as 'catholic' " The History of the Primitive Church, 1949 3:600

  • @weldenjon
    @weldenjon Місяць тому

    Your opinion, not mine. This is a debate we humans will have until God Himself sets us all straight on it.
    I personally believe God is God, one person and Jesus is Jesus, one person and the Holy Spirit or Ghost is one person. Three distinct persons that are united in one cause - the salvation of all God's children.
    Now, what if the Holy Ghost was a She and wife of God and Jesus is in fact their only begotten Son? That would make the God head a family unit. It makes total sense for are we not Heavenly Father's children? Is it any stretch of the imagination that there might be a Mother Goddess i.e. the Holy Ghost.
    So we have the God head being Father, Mother, Son. And what if the Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit are two distinct personages? Perhaps Mother, Daughter? This would give the God Head two versions of itself - Father, Mother, Son and Father, Mother, Daughter. Two triangle shaped famial connections that when superimposed on one another forms the star of David or Israel.
    Of course, this is all speculation but isn't most of what we believe or think God to be? I prefer this view for it is far more personal and relatable considering our famial relationships we have here on earth.
    Wouldn't it be amazing if they (the God Head) were the pattern for us here on earth? I most certainly would like to think so...

  • @Jpt2020
    @Jpt2020 4 місяці тому

    The first church was catholic Dr Craig.?

  • @somerandom3247
    @somerandom3247 4 місяці тому

    3? you havent even gotten to 1 yet....

  • @anaccount8474
    @anaccount8474 4 місяці тому

    God is a manage a Ménage à trois - naughty naughty.

  • @andrewdegroot5247
    @andrewdegroot5247 3 місяці тому

    This mumbo jumbo is why non-religious people shy away from this nonsense

  • @xehanortasemka5539
    @xehanortasemka5539 3 місяці тому

    One who. Three whats

  • @isadormoti6977
    @isadormoti6977 3 місяці тому

    oof!

  • @DelbertTritsch
    @DelbertTritsch 4 місяці тому +2

    This video illustrates a big reason for why so many do not understand the Godhead: philosophy. Scripture says the Godhead is in Jesus (Col. 2:9). There is no biblical passage speaking of multiple persons in the Godhead.

  • @Shyguy71588
    @Shyguy71588 4 місяці тому

    I disagree. Im more on the Jewish people side and the old testament. God doesnt need a son he is essentially everywhere. From the clouds in the sky to the soles in your shoes. A person 1 on 1 relationship with God is all you need

  • @grahamtopfuel
    @grahamtopfuel 3 місяці тому +1

    This is a weak argument. But for an alternative perspective on the Trinity concept PLEASE check out the Infinite Oneness idea now circulating on video. VERY INTERESTING

  • @Deathhellandthegrave
    @Deathhellandthegrave 4 місяці тому +6

    If I said there was 1 god in one million persons who are eternally distinct, you would call me a polytheist. However, when you say there is 1 god in 3 persons you are a monotheist. How is that?

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior 4 місяці тому

      If it was logical to assume god had a million distinct but unified persons, it would no more polytheistic than 1million. Quantity has nothing to do with it.

    • @Deathhellandthegrave
      @Deathhellandthegrave 4 місяці тому +3

      @@juhadexcelsior okay, so I am a hindu who believes that there is one god in one million persons who are eternally distinct. I am a monotheist.

    • @David_Freeze
      @David_Freeze 4 місяці тому

      @@Deathhellandthegrave monotheism is the belief in one God. In Christianity we believe 3 persons share the one nature God. The Father, Son and Spirit all have the nature of God being omnipresent, omniscient, all powerful, perfectly good, eternal with no beginning and ect. If as. Hindu your one million gods share all the same EXACT qualities with no difference then yes that’s monotheism. The real question is who reveals God accurately? Is it Jesus or one of your gods?

    • @Deathhellandthegrave
      @Deathhellandthegrave 4 місяці тому

      @@David_Freeze I know what the trinity is. The real question is am I a monotheist?

    • @shaunigothictv1003
      @shaunigothictv1003 4 місяці тому

      ​@@David_FreezeYet the orthodox Jews do NOT believe in a trinity.
      I am NOT a follower of YAHWEH.
      But as far as Orthodox Judaism is concerned:
      They state that in the Torah YAHWEH never revealed himself as a plurality of persons.
      So your creating a weird bastardised version of their own Torah.
      It is only the New Testament that teaches that YAHWEH is three persons.
      Not one time did YAHWEH ever say that he was three persons in the Torah.
      Ask any Orthodox Rabbi and they will confirm what i have just told you.
      However its possibly that YAHWEH revealed other aspects of himself in other books of the Old Testament they may be interpreted as three persons.
      Like i said, I am NOT a follower of YAHWEH but i am just making an observation.

  • @Platonism474
    @Platonism474 3 місяці тому

    So we Muslims don't believe in a community of God's persons rather we believe in One simple God who is 1 person.

    • @majormohitsharma7701
      @majormohitsharma7701 3 місяці тому

      Then you have to answer me is Qur'an allah ? Is the Qur'an eternal and uncreated ?

    • @Platonism474
      @Platonism474 3 місяці тому

      ​@@majormohitsharma7701 In Islamic theology, the Quran is viewed as a creation of God rather than being God Himself. This sets it apart from the Christian concept of the Trinity, where Jesus is seen as fully God. Attributes of God, such as power, define His essence but are not considered separate existential entities. In contrast to the Trinity, where each member is fully God, attributes are not regarded as distinct entities from God Himself.

    • @majormohitsharma7701
      @majormohitsharma7701 3 місяці тому

      @@Platonism474 I believe you might be a Sunni. The major sects of Sunnis that fill about 80 percent of muslims all over the world believe the Qur'an to be uncreated and ever existing with your god. They got these ideas from early sources and early scholars those who came and made theological progression in your religion that matches with earlier sources. So unless you are ignorant about these statements or else you might not be Sunni. Because the Sunnis have conflict among themselves but majority of them believe Qur'an to be eternal.
      And for the record if God is eternal then so his word will be. That's why the word of God in Christianity is eternal.

    • @Platonism474
      @Platonism474 3 місяці тому

      @majormohitsharma7701
      I am a Sunni Muslim, so I'm already familiar with what Islamic theologians have said. Many people, including Christians and Muslims, misunderstand this point. In Sunni Islam, the majority view, informed by Ashari and Maturidi Theology, holds that the Arabic Quran, revealed by Allah, is a creation of God. This perspective is articulated by theologians such as Imam Sa'ad ud Deen Taftazani, Imam al Sanusi, and Imam Ali al Ushi, among others. It's widely accepted among Sunnis that the Arabic Quran is a creation of God, with the exception of some within the Hanbali school of thought. When we say the Quran is "uncreated," we refer to God's attribute of Speech, which, like God's knowledge, is eternal. The Quran is considered an eternal attribute of God, not a separate entity. This differs from Christian theology, where each person is considered fully God.
      The key difference lies in how Sunni Islam views attributes, which are not regarded as fully or partially God since they are not seen as separate entities. Conversely, Christian theology asserts that each person within the Trinity is fully God. As a Christian, you affirm the omniscience of God. Hence, the inquiry arises: is God's knowledge considered to be an intrinsic aspect of God, or is it distinguished from God? How do you reconcile this theological concept within your faith?

    • @Platonism474
      @Platonism474 3 місяці тому

      ​@@majormohitsharma7701This response serves a dual purpose: firstly, it offers clarification regarding your query on Islamic theology, and secondly, it poses a question for your consideration.

  • @horridhenry9920
    @horridhenry9920 4 місяці тому +3

    As an atheist I have no dog in the trinity fight. However, as a rational person who once believed and no longer believes because I actually studied theism and Christianity in particular, I find the idea of a trinity, that God is one person, but also three people, logically incoherent and absurd. The mental gymnastics and contortions required to make sense of the Trinitarian concept is off the charts.
    Jesus was a Jew and like Jews of his time believed that God is a unity. A simple absolute unity. God is one. Deuteronomy 4:35 and 39 - “… there is none else besides him …” Deuteronomy 6:4 “hear Israel the Lord our God The Lord is one”. There are several other verses from Isaiah, 43:10-11, 44:6, 45:2, in which whenever God speaks to himself, he keeps saying I am the one. There is no one else besides me. The first and the last. The problem for Christianity is that nowhere in the Hebrew Bible does God say he’s a three part God.

    • @Mike-bc2wq
      @Mike-bc2wq 4 місяці тому +2

      And you need to read the gospel of John, where Jesus says I and the father are one, and he also says, I will send you the Holy Spirit to be your helper and then at the end of Matthew‘s gospel, he says, go out and preach the gospel to all nations Baptizing them in the name of the father son and the Holy Spirit. That is the Trinity if I ever seen one

    • @dewbye63
      @dewbye63 4 місяці тому

      "The mental gymnastics and contortions required to make sense of the Trinitarian concept is off the charts." - Because we are mentally limited to 3 dimensions of space and half a dimension of time.

    • @horridhenry9920
      @horridhenry9920 4 місяці тому

      @@dewbye63 You mean the things we observe as reality? Those claiming there are other dimensions have the burden of proof. Like string theory and multiverses we can talk about it, but until we can test it, all we have is suppositions.

    • @horridhenry9920
      @horridhenry9920 4 місяці тому

      @@Mike-bc2wq Where can we find the Trinity in the Torah. Isn’t the Trinity something invented by Jesus’s followers after his death.Jesus was a Jew and first century Jews did not believe in the Trinity.

    • @jake5811
      @jake5811 4 місяці тому +1

      @@horridhenry9920 --They also didn't believe in the divinity of Christ and they were WRONG.

  • @celestialknight2339
    @celestialknight2339 3 місяці тому

    Terrible argument. God can easily love even before He creates, just as He can know things before they are made:
    *_”Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you; before you were even born, I sanctified you; and I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”_* ~ Jeremiah 1:5
    Christians, please repent. And serve God alone-who is Christ’s Lord and your Lord.

  • @chamalanar5334
    @chamalanar5334 4 місяці тому

    Not satisfied explanation

  • @move_i_got_this5659
    @move_i_got_this5659 4 місяці тому

    Not 3 beings but 1 God in different forms.
    Jesus is actually the Father.
    We are God's children.

  • @briankregg6329
    @briankregg6329 3 місяці тому

    Blasphemy!!!

  • @danieldishon688
    @danieldishon688 4 місяці тому

    If we're not allowed to use the Bible to reason how if God would be 3 persons in 1 and not 4, but if I am allowed to start from the axiom we are made in his image and work backwards, I'd say we are triune, made of heart, mind and soul, so it seems fitting to believe the creator who are image reflects might be triune as well.

  • @mathewsamuel1386
    @mathewsamuel1386 4 місяці тому +3

    How many Gods are there? If it is one God, then it is still self-love - the one God loving himself. If there are 3 Gods, ok, makes sense, but you'll be a polytheist. If God is the name of a community of three Persons, each of whom is God (adjective) like America is a country of 340 million persons each of whom is American, then the love of God (metonymy for the Persons in the God community) is understandable in the same way that one would say "the American love." But this comes with the cost that God is no longer a person, but the name of a community of persons like America is the name of a country of persons. However, since the bible teaches that God is a person, meaning that God has a mind (Isiah 55:8-9), an emotion (e.g., Ex. 32:11) and a will (Psalm 143:10), having an impersonal God makes you an idolater -- since an impersonal God is not the God of the bible. That's the difficulty the Trinity gets you into -- either you're a polytheist or you're an idolater -- both of which amount to the same thing really.

    • @rizzumz
      @rizzumz 4 місяці тому

      I think you would just say God is tri-personal. So to say Jesus is God would be like the adjective analogy your provided since he is just one person.

    • @jonkeene8788
      @jonkeene8788 4 місяці тому

      I don't see things quite the same way. First, as to if God were one Person, you say "it's still self-love". However, this love is not as nuanced and "divine" in its essence, if you will, as with God being multiple Persons each lovingly united in Spirit. That outward, community based love remains a crucial distinction in my mind.
      This gets to the second point. While we hold that there are three Person's in the Godhead, we don't believe this means that there are "three Gods." Again, this gets into kind of more of a nuanced perspective on the nature of God. Because each Person of the Godhead is perfectly and divinely united in Spirit with the other, yes they are three Person's--but, really, they're the same entity because they are identical in essence: thought, emotion, desire, and Spirit.
      And lastly, as to the comparison between "God" as referring to a community of Person's, and America. I find this analogy troublesome for multiple reasons (analogies often are). The Godhead is so unique that to find a "perfect" comparison might be difficult. ... Keeping it simple, without the use of analogies, this is what we believe. We believe "God" does refer to a community of Person's (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). We believe each have their own mind, soul and will. But to repeat what I said before, we believe the Father and Son are so wholly united by the Holy Spirit that they share the same thoughts, emotions and desire. Therefore "God", for us, does refer to a personal God (holding all the attributes of personhood in three wholly united Individuals).
      So to conclude, we believe in three Person's, fully united as One, in a truly mysterious and divine kind of way.

    • @unsightedmetal6857
      @unsightedmetal6857 4 місяці тому

      "God" does not always refer to the whole Trinity. It often refers to just God the Father, especially in the Old Testament.
      E.g. Genesis 1:1 says that "God created".
      John 1 says that everything was made through the Word, God the Son, Jesus.
      I think the best interpretation of those two passages is that God the Father created all things through God the Son. The "God" of Genesis 1:1 is God the Father, not the whole Trinity.
      In the same way, the passages you cited can possibly refer to only God the Father, meaning the "God" in this case is not impersonal/not just a community. So it wouldn't be idolatry.

    • @mathewsamuel1386
      @mathewsamuel1386 4 місяці тому

      @unsightedmetal6857 Sorry, but God has to be God. So if the Son is God, he has to be fully God, not partly God. That means the Son is as God as the Father and anything the bible says about the Father applies to the son, else the Son is not God. You cannot have it both ways, sorry. Or give up the Trinity.

    • @mathewsamuel1386
      @mathewsamuel1386 4 місяці тому

      @jonkeene8788 If you say, "community" then my analysis about the God community applies. If God is one Person, then self-love applies. If there are three Gods, I also covered that. You have no way out of it the dilemma. Read what you wrote side by side with my comment and see that you haven't suggested any way out of the dilemma at all. Thank you.

  • @black6master
    @black6master 4 місяці тому +1

    Perfect example how apologetics justify themselves with anything

    • @anaccount8474
      @anaccount8474 4 місяці тому

      Be fair, he dug pretty in his ass to pull out that ad hoc meaningless drivel. You can't accuse him of not trying.

    • @kofidan9128
      @kofidan9128 4 місяці тому +1

      Maybe, pretty much like Krauss' "a universe from nothing" 😂

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 3 місяці тому

      What I saw in the video was a philosophical response to a doctrinal question rather than apologetics tbh.

    • @black6master
      @black6master 3 місяці тому

      @@finty5457 apologetic use philosophy, don't you know

  • @coreyevans9543
    @coreyevans9543 3 місяці тому

    Nonsense. God is not 3 persons.
    1. The only true God is the Messiah's God.
    2. The Messiah's God is not the Trinity.
    3. Therefore, the Trinity is not the only true God.

  • @sabriya7647
    @sabriya7647 26 днів тому

    GIBBERISH

    • @drcraigvideos
      @drcraigvideos  26 днів тому

      What part didn't you understand? - RF Admin

  • @chuckwieser7622
    @chuckwieser7622 3 місяці тому

    God is not triune, but you're going to Hell if you don't believe. He intertain reasonable questions on the Trinity, but Anihilationism and Universalism is Un-thinkable... SMH!
    There was 3 and only 3 when the heavens opened, Christ was baptised. And God limits wraith by 'an eye for an eye'. He could not send even the most evil sinner to everlasting, eternal conscience torment!

  • @supersmart671
    @supersmart671 4 місяці тому

    Because of the Revelation of God. Period!

  • @briansransom
    @briansransom 3 місяці тому

    So much nonsense! Either God is one and only one or he can be as many as you like. Jesus was God incarnate. Not separate from God, but God in human form, living a human life, if nothing else, then just to experience it. The Holy Spirit is not even a being! It's just the spirit of holiness! Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Holy Spirit is an individual being at all, much less separate from God. What happened to the argument that Christianity is a monotheistic religion anyway? Christians argued that point forever, up until recently! Now it's 3? Give me a break!

  • @danzelhill
    @danzelhill 4 місяці тому

    *(YHWH) God > (Jesus) Christ* > Man > Woman
    1 Cor. 11:3 - “the head of every man is the Christ, the head of a woman is the man, the head of the Christ is God”
    Man and Christ are not one person, Woman and Man are not one person, and *Christ and God neither are one person.*

  • @Heygoodlooking-lk9kg
    @Heygoodlooking-lk9kg 4 місяці тому

    God is no persons, God is nothing, does not exist

    • @kofidan9128
      @kofidan9128 4 місяці тому

      Lol, that's false. God exists and you look like him 😅

    • @Heygoodlooking-lk9kg
      @Heygoodlooking-lk9kg 4 місяці тому

      @@kofidan9128 nope, god is man made, to the fools who believe in him, he looks like me, man made god in his own image,,,,,is your god bald, blind, crippled with polio, does he have cancer? You’re talking rubbish

  • @mattr.1887
    @mattr.1887 4 місяці тому

    Funny how we supposedly have this God all figured out.

    • @jonkeene8788
      @jonkeene8788 4 місяці тому +1

      Not exactly what he says.

  • @TheRastacabbage
    @TheRastacabbage 3 місяці тому

    God isn't 3 persons. The trinity is a false pagan idea, added to 'christianity'

  • @cameronreed1411
    @cameronreed1411 4 місяці тому

    The simple truth is that God, Christ and the Holy Ghost are three separate personages, united as one in their purpose, goals desires and love. But they are separate and distinct individuals.

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 3 місяці тому

      Are they one spirit on your view?

    • @cameronreed1411
      @cameronreed1411 3 місяці тому

      @@finty5457 No, they are literally 3 different people as separate as you are from your mother and father, but they are united in their purposes, goals, etc.

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 3 місяці тому

      @@cameronreed1411 interesting, I would think that is outside of the common view. Is there a name for this view? So I can have a read about?

  • @celestialknight2339
    @celestialknight2339 3 місяці тому

    *”O people of the Scripture! Do not cross the limits in your religion, nor say anything about God but the truth! The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is only God’s messenger, and His word which He cast into Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not speak of ‘three’. Stop-it is for your own good! God is one sole divinity, who is far above having a son. He owns everything in the heavens and everything on earth-and God alone is sufficient to sustain all things.”* ~ The Recitation [Al-Qur’ān], Sūrah 4:171 ❤

  • @johnbarr7421
    @johnbarr7421 4 місяці тому +1

    Why does Professor Craig never actually say anything with real content? Community love - within a single person. Piffle.

    • @germananaya1756
      @germananaya1756 4 місяці тому +1

      I have asked that question myself but ended up reminding me that he is only giving a philosophical view.

    • @drcraigvideos
      @drcraigvideos  4 місяці тому

      //Why does Professor Craig never actually say anything with real content? Community love - within a single person. Piffle.//
      What do you consider "real content"? And where did he ever say that there was community love without a single person? - RF Admin

    • @johnbarr7421
      @johnbarr7421 3 місяці тому

      @@drcraigvideosProfessor Craig is a monotheist, so he was talking about community love in the context of a single person.

    • @drcraigvideos
      @drcraigvideos  3 місяці тому

      @@johnbarr7421 He's a trinitarian monotheist: one tripersonal God. - RF Admin

  • @tomcatpurr
    @tomcatpurr 4 місяці тому

    because people are 3 persons duh.

  • @MC-sd1uy
    @MC-sd1uy 4 місяці тому

    The trinity is unbiblical. It’s crazy to see scholars believing these kind of nonsense.

    • @DgDo-tt6uf
      @DgDo-tt6uf 3 місяці тому

      You are braindead.

  • @brucehazen8982
    @brucehazen8982 3 місяці тому

    Hinduism is even better. God with millions of avatars! ♡

  • @samuelcallai4209
    @samuelcallai4209 4 місяці тому

    cringe speculations

  • @mindofmasterproductions
    @mindofmasterproductions 4 місяці тому +5

    God is actually one Person

    • @Max-sn7pc
      @Max-sn7pc 4 місяці тому +4

      Not according to Jesus atleast.

    • @tomriggs699
      @tomriggs699 4 місяці тому +2

      Your logic was defeated in the first few minutes of the video.

    • @mindofmasterproductions
      @mindofmasterproductions 4 місяці тому

      Lol excuse me but the Bible is NEVER defeated. If man is made in the image and likeness of God then why aren’t we three persons. We’re only one person.

    • @masterevenpiell
      @masterevenpiell 4 місяці тому +4

      @@mindofmasterproductions If God is omnipotent, why aren't we? In His image doesn't mean we have all of His attributes

    • @mindofmasterproductions
      @mindofmasterproductions 4 місяці тому

      @@Max-sn7pc I missed that book, chapter and verse. Care to share where He said God was three persons.