EV Owner REFUSED Hospital Parking Access!
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EV - Was the hospital right to not backdown? - Авто та транспорт
I don’t want to be on a car ferry with electric cars on board.
That's simple dont go on any ferries then nobody will miss you.
@@ItsAllJustBolloxwrong answer
@@greggthunderburg7294 its your only way to avoid them or you face your irrational fear and just stop worrying.
@@ItsAllJustBolloxWOW! Why so butt hurt little fella? Did you just find out what the resale value of your EV is? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
Imagine living out of an electric car. 2000's version of 70's drunks falling asleep whilst smoking.
They're listening to the public concerns. A sprinkler system will never put out a fre in an electric vehicle
No but it will help to protect the exposures.
@@marsterofnotrades By spreading the deadly poisons around?
If you go to a scrapyard,EVs are parked up separately from ICEs.
And they’ll probably rot there for years. Who wants a worn out battery?
That's incase an ice car catches fire and damages one 👍
Scrap EVs are placed separated from all vehicles including other EVs.
That's if you can find a scrapyard that will take EVs.
My customer scrapped his Tesla.
They charged him £2000 disposal
You take an ICE car and they will pay you for it.
@softwarephil1709 it would be useful if the battery could easily be removed and kept separate and inspected
How much public money needs to be thrown at this? The governments are falling over themselves to accommodate EVs.
Follow the money - by the time all that tax money has gone to shareholders as dividends the EV bubble will have burst. Corruption in its most obvious example - apart from Covid…
Next we'll see government subsidies for dedicated parking garages and then DEI initiatives for EVs.
and about environment:
Lithium brines contain about 0.14% lithium, so it takes about 20,000 pounds of brines to yield 30 pounds of pure lithium.
Cobalt with an ore grade of ~0.1% means approximately 60,000 pounds of ore will be excavated per battery[e]
Nickel with a content of approximately 1.3% represents approximately 10,000 pounds of ore[f]
Graphite at ~10% results in 2,000 pounds of ore[g]
Copper at ~0.6% yields approximately 12,000 pounds of ore[h]
These five elements add up to about 100,000 pounds of ore to make ONE electric vehicle battery.
No money "NEEDS" to be threwn at this. The money does not think, it does not bear a grudge, it doesn't have any emotion, it does not have "NEEDS"..... it just is. If you are asking how much money totally stupid politicians guided by Bolsheviks in their administrations intend to through at this nightmare, the answer to your question is QUITE A LOT.
You realise that the money being put into it is less than the tax paid for the car in the first place. And it’s to save money on environmental correction right? It’s like complaining that goverments are spending money to let people know that smoking is bad.
The worst thing I heard was that he waited five years for a doctor's appointment for his son
If you drive a battery car, you were supposed to abort your children anyway.
That's a decent appointment time for " free healthcare " in a socialist country with strong left leanings. Some of my friends died as a result of the gender cultists getting to them then the NHS telling them there'd be a 5 to 10 year wait list and that nothing could be reversed and while under extreme mental illness, they'd signed away their rights to compensation.
Are you sure that was waiting for the appointment or did he mean he couldn't get an appointment for 5 years?
No car park parking period. An EV car fire can compromise the structural integrity of the car park, causing collapse, risking injury and death.
Despite the fact that petrol cars are 120 times more likely to catch fire?
You need to educate yourself on the matter and stop listening to Scottish clowns😂
So can ICE.
If a person is in a life or death situation, they are not going to take the extra amount of time to park hundreds of meters away.
How about no parking for ICE vehicles!
The ICE produces 6k explosions per minute.
A car park full of EVs is much less likely to cause a fire than a car park full of petrol, diesel or hybrid cars and that's a fact. LOOK AT THE DATA, DON"T JUST READ CLICKBAIT MEDIA HEADLINES!
You mean like the Luton Airport car park fire?
@@Richard482 Which was caused by a 2014 model Range rover diesel.
The biggest flaw in this logic is that they state they have banned EVs until they upgrade their sprinkler system, when no sprinkler system upgrade on the planet will ever be able to extinguish an EV fire.
True but it should be able to contain spread
@@shaynegadsden On its own, it wouldn't contain the spread, but might slow it. What happens also depends on how many EVs are parked nearby.
They could mean they they are banned until the sprinkler upgrade which is planned for hell freezing over. Probably the lot the staff likes to use?
Petrol and diesel car fires mostly caused by electrical issues
You can throw a lit match on
Diesel and won't ignite
Ya, imagine having an entire car with just electrical stuff waiting to go wrong.
If diesel is so safe they should use it to put fires out 😂
Diesel will instantly ignite at 200 degrees and the catalytic converter operates at 400 degrees which is what causes car fires. if there is an under bonnet fuel leak.
Ice cars usually only catch fire after the blaggers have done the post office mate...
@@eastwood978 Imagine if only cars in inner city had to have cat converters and it wasn't required in any rural county.
Imagine if London was governed differently to the rest of the country and the rest of us could live sensible, rural lives and the city folk could have their progressive utopia.
Hi. The government should be banning these mobile incinerators off the road. Environmentally friendly. what a joke.
They are moving crematoriums.
@@codeblue9004 Steady on !
To be fair, they are more environmentally friendly over the complete life cycle. The amount of evidence from independent sources is overwhelming . Not very environmentally friendly while burning though.
For 'mobile incinerators' see 1) Hybrids, 2) petrol cars 3) diesel cars. EVs are far less likely to do the job for you.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 But when they do, you're likely to be in bed fast asleep as the car in your garage decides it's time for you to die.
EVs definitely shouldn't be allowed to park under buildings.
Or inside ships.
You realise that ice cars are much more likely to set on fire right?
@@Audioremedy0785 Try putting an EV fire out. Good luck when you're in a hospital bed 3 floors up. I hope you are.
@@Audioremedy0785 Try putting an EV fire out. Good luck when you're in a hospital bed 3 floors up. And do you have such little integrity to not realise this is a temporary thing, while they put in place systems to deal with the fires. But no, here you are, spouting silly made up 'facts' skewed to fit your narrative.
@@Audioremedy0785 Try putting an EV fire out. Good luck when you're in a hospital bed 3 floors up. And do you have such little integrity to not realise this is a temporary thing, while they put in place systems to deal with the fires. But no, here you are, spouting silly made up 'facts' skewed to fit your narrative.
I have a neighbor that parked next to an EV in a garage. The EV caught on fire and totaled his car as well as the car on the other side of the EV. This was his surprise after a long day at work. His new car burnt to a crisp and he needed to Uber home.
Didn't need uber, could have caught a good old fashion cab
How Sweet
Hope he Learnt his Lesson
@@vincecarlo There's only so much you can do. What if the car you parked next to leaves, and an EV comes along?
This sounds true.
The hospital has a "duty of care" to its patients. As you rightly point out, EVs fires burn much hotter, and are extremely difficult to extinguish. The hospital provides the parking, the hospital has every right to stipulate how they are used. A little unfortunate for the driver of the EV, but they made the choice, and there are many more (worse) drawbacks to owning an EV, as many have found out....
EV fires are extremely rare, the data is clear on that. EV fires 25 per 100,000 sold, petrol cars 1,5300 per 100,000 cars sold (Source: Lloyds Insurance)
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
A sprinkler system can put out an ice vehicle fire but not an EV fire. On top of that ice vehicles do not spontaneously combust while being unattended.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 got a link? I'd like to see how many ICE fires are due to arson
@deanchur you raise a very good point!
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 one EV fire is too much
Why would an insurance company allow EV to be parked on there hospital
@ashleymoore9063
Some vehicle insurance companies will not even insure EVs
For medical emergencies.
Nothing to do with the insurance companies who know full well that EVs are much safer than any ICE car ever made. The hospital DOES allow EV parking in its main carpark and has 7 charging bays for EVs. Read the actual story and get the facts right in your head
@@OIllllOSome insurance companies have NEVER paid out a claim for an EV fire….
@@OIllllOinsurance companies operate on managing risk. EVs represent an unknown level of risk as there is not enough data. They don’t have data to accurately establish premium levels. It’s made out that it’s because they are dangerous. But in reality, you can insure anything if there is enough data to calculate a premium.
I agree with the hospital. One time I thought my phone was going to catch fire it got so hot and that lithumion battery was tiny in comparison to the size of what's in an EV. Until an alternative safer battery type is found, then it's just how it will have to be.
Maybe banning phones from public buildings will be next. 😂😂😂
The hospital are prioritising the safety of the hospital users and staff, it’s the right thing to do.
I don’t think there is any fire sprinkler system that would be effective in the event of an EV fire
Ban milk floats full stop
It may well be true that EV fires are rarer than ICE fires but, how many ICE vehicles spontaneously combust in the garage overnight?
Loads Little Book of EV Myths please download it if you dare
@@mralanvideo Written by an EV evangelist maybe? Yes, it is.
Rac m8 not a nobody on UA-cam 👍
@@mralanvideo i'll have a look.
I wonder if those numbers are per capita, I doubt it,
or per miles traveled.
They definitely should not be allowed in car parks that are located under residential buildings.
100% - Thats a terrifying thought..
I'll park my EV where I like thanks, next to your house if I want to. Don't be so daft and ignorant...Look at the data on car fires. EVs: 25 fires per 100,000. Petrol and diesel 1,530 per 100,000 sold, Hybrids 3,475 per 100,000 sold (Source: CCA Sweden)
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 industry sources say fires in proper cars are only 2-10 times more likely, and that doesn't account for age or whether the vehicle is parked (Source: evfiresafe). It also doesn't account for the intensity of the fire, and the chance of it being controlled by a residential building's sprinkler system. If you park a risky vehicle and damage other people's property, you should be sued.
I checked your source. Your claims are not supported.
_The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency this year found that there were 3.8 fires per 100,000 electric or hybrid cars in 2022, compared with 68 fires per 100,000 cars when taking all fuel types into account. However, the latter figures include arson, making comparisons tricky._
The car park at Luton airport got totalled by a hybrid lithium battery, full EV is worse.
@@mellarner8253 Was it? How do you know? The Fire service report said it was a diesel vehicle.
EV fires are only rarer because we yet dont have a huge ageing poorly maintained fleet of them on the road, most ICE cars that catch fire come under that category. Not Brand new or Nearly new and spontaneously combust while just parked!!
Thats what I'm thinking too, they probably aren't
quoting per capita or miles traveled. IC vehicle
numbers on the road, dwarf that of EV's.
Makes no difference. The data is clear. Even new ICE cars have a higher fires/100,000 sold rate than EVs. Anything containing volatile liquid fuel and an engine that requires that fuel to combust is inevitably a much greater fire hazard. Fuel tanks are mostly plastic and dump their contents in a fire, making the fire worse...this is what happened to the Range Rover diesel which started the Luton airport fire. Fuel lines fail, fuel pumps and seals fail.. All this reflects the fundamental difference between ICE and EVs, the former has thousands of moving parts in its drivetrain, an EV has about 20
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Sounds like you are talking about accidents and such. Everyone else is talking about cars randomly catching fire while off. If you didn't know ICE cars don't combust anything while off.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 do you have a source for that? If it doesn't account for age and the vehicles being in motion then it's no good.
The Luton fire had the characteristics of an EV fire and there was no clear footage showing the license plate, so the claims are not supported by facts. What we do know is that it was not parked, and the fire extinguisher left by the vehicle did not extinguish the fire, which is what we would expect with an EV fire. We also know that a fire in New Zealand at around the same time was claimed to have started a the back of a house despite footage showing the garage on fire when the back of the house was unaffected. The official narrative in that case is definitely false, but we can only assume that's the case for Luton. We know there is a desire on the part of the powerful not to have the truth come out if it harms their project, so we cannot trust them. We have to use alternative sources.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
Wow but wow, this reminds
me of the ''safe and effective vaccine''
rhetoric, recycling, and anthropomorphic
Global Warming.
Even if petrol cars catch fire more often then electric, (disregarding the fact there are far more gas then electric cars), it’s the fact these electric cars can catch fire without warning, burn much hotter, and are extremely difficult to extinguish.
Let’s just ban EVs altogether. But as our government and opposition parties think EVs are the future that won’t happen. Politicians always know best don’t they.
And what will we do when we run out of oil….
@@Audioremedy0785straw man fallacy. Change the record, it’s boring
@@mikeolly67 running out of something that you are using faster than it’s being created while watching the oil rich nations scramble over the last 20 years to get alternate income sources than oil. How you can be watching this unfold and think ‘yeah - oil will last forever’ is beyond me. I’m not for one second implying that we are at a critical level. But within our life-time the countries with oil left will become more powerful than those without.
@@Audioremedy0785 we’re not running out for a long time yet
@@Audioremedy0785 never implied oil will last forever, the world needs an alternative power source I agree.
Instead of flogging the EV dead horse, governments should be encouraging development of other alternatives, batteries aren’t that alternative, only brainwashed idiots would think otherwise.
I have had an EV for 8 years. Although it has never caught fire, I never charge it in my garage for fear of fire. I can fully understand the hospital's viewpoint. Particularly after those car ferry and air port fires, which, if not initially started by an EV, were made disasterous by their presence.
As well as this my EV has lost 33% battery capacity and range with degradation in only 40 k miles and it has been a longer distance journey logistical nightmare. When it is finally gone, it won't be replaced by another EV.
8 years is a first generation EV like a Nissan Leaf which had old first gen batteries no cooling & minimal battery management. EV technology has moved on loads in 8 years. 400k miles on Teslas used by Uber drivers show 90% battery capacity.
@@eastwood978BAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sure it does little fella, sure it does! Who told you that, Elon Musk? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Your EV wont be worth a wank when you decide to ditch it.
@@eastwood978 In the time it takes an EV to charge from 80% to 90% the car has lost 1K in value due to depreciation over time.
@@eastwood978 Yeah like the 2019 model 3 that the Uber guy used for just over 12 months that had a complete battery failure
These wretched EV's should never be allowed to park in any public parking spaces let alone just hospitals!! In any case aa sprinkler system even of gigantic proportions are simply not going to put out the fire at best just keep the debris in the smoke and some gases wetted down.
EVs are almost impossible to extinguish outdoors. So imagine one on fire in the middle of a crowded indoor (or underground) parking lot. This is one more reason I would never buy an EV. I would never know if I could park indoors to wherever I was going.
You would just work on an assumption that you can and you would be fine every time.
Most EV's are new now. Should be interesting to see how this goes in 10 years.
Yes, after people are buying them off shady used car lots for a grand or two!
EVs should have separate car park outside of city limits and along way away from any dwellings, maybe next to a lake or pond so that the burners can quickly be shoved by a tractor into the water.
Shoving a burning EV into a lake would be an environmental disaster (not that it hasn't happened already), due to highly toxic chemicals leaking out. Actually planning to do this would be highly irresponsible.
Aside from that, dumping a burning battery pack into water doesn't extinguish it.
gas cars MAY catch on fire more(debatable because theres a lot of funny buisness and cherry picking there), but theres zero doubt that they are far easier to manage when on fire by normal conventional means. once ev's go, theres not stopping them.
So you are conceding that ICE cars are a much higher fire risk. At least someone is sensible.
There should be a designated area EVs to park, with high quality cameras pointing at them. So that we can properly investigate how the fire started, not because I enjoy EV fires.
Exactly. We need to know who to bill when the insurance coverage caps out.
It’s probably a good idea. Keep all the good cars away from the ones like that one at Luton airport. 👍🏻
imagine being on a overnight car passenger ferry and one of those caught fire ?i dread to think
Are you one of those people who doesn’t go on planes because they are scared they will crash because you read that it happened on the internet once? You sound like one.
Agree separate parking area. I avoid parking next to EV's.
You realise that your car is 80x more likely to set on fire right?
Smart hospital!
I wonder if the insurance companies have a stance on this and what it might be
their stance is that every one of us will be picking up the bill................. ??
They do. The stance is to RAISE THE RATES FOR EVERYONE!
Hmmm, would I park my beautiful Aston DB9 beside an EV timebomb? Erm that’ll be a big fat NO! Especially not in a multi story one!
Deffo make them have separate parking AWAY from ICE cars and a safe distance from hospitals for that matter! Sick people can’t run away from fire!
I was in hospital recently with hip problems and the fire alarm went off unexpectedly after lights out!
I was woken by a male nurse who lifted me out of bed and wheeled me outside! Turns out it was a nurse had burnt her toast in the staff room but I realised just how totally helpless I was as I couldn’t have escaped by myself!😬😩
What’s funny is that this story had nothing to do with EVs not being able to park at hospitals. As the car could park at the hospital.
I am glad they don’t let the EV at the hospital .
House battery storage about to need planning permissions for your loft . Watch your house insurance rocket as well
Many of the house batteries aren't as big of an issue apart from the much lower charge and discharge rates they often use LiFePo4 batteries which are much more stable but also much less energy dense compared to Lithium-Ion
I can't imagine any kind of sprinkler system, improved or otherwise, able to put out a runaway battery fire. That said, there is a reason in Germany why parking EVs in multi-story and underground car parks is forbidden.
If possible I will rather not park my car near an EV.
How many are parking at the side of their homes.
And how many have combusted?
@@ochayethegnu2915 One is more than enough with thermal runaway taking the house with it 😡
I wouldn't be too quick to blame the hospital. They are subject to insurance company mandates just like everyone else.
There is literally no insurance mandate that would stipulate this. Proven by the fact you can park an ev at the hospital. You guys are honesly nuts.
@@Audioremedy0785 I received my homeowner's insurance policy renewal last month. There was a clause advising me it would be modified $ or terminated if I had an electric bike. I owned a commercial building for roughly twenty-five years. As building codes changed over the years, my insurance company said the same thing if I didn't immediately satify the code. Consider how risk adverse insurance companies are by their very nature, I would be amazed if they didn't have concerns about EV safety and took actions to protect their buisness from liability. As there is no specific government mandate at this time, those measures won't be universal consistent fron one insurance company or business to another.
There is no universal government mandate as it pertains to EV safety. Every insurance company, buisness, municipality, public safety organization is operating solely under the principal of maximum risk aversion. Until that changes, EV owners should not expect uniformity where they are allowed to park.
I avoid parking near them but have come back to the car after shopping and some bell end with an ev has parked next to me.
Tbf, given your cars much higher risk of fire, it’s very considerate of you to park away from them.
@@Audioremedy0785 how is my car a higher risk . In 50 years of driving it's never happened whereas EVs a few weeks old are self conbusting why? Because they are garbage 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@robbie2447 so what your saying is, your car hasn’t set fire in 50 years. But because you have seen online that an EV set on fire it makes them much higher risk than your car? Seems like a very obscure logic. If you look into it, you will understand that statistics go beyond your car. And statistically an ICe car is much more likely to set on fire than an Ev. 80x more likely. Just look at what that one did at Luton airport horrific.
Yes no Ev 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
A sprinkler system will only extinguish building materials and/or other non-EVs that have been set on fire by the EV fire, itself. In case no one has noticed, about 1/2 dozen EVs have caught fire and burned while completely submerged in the lakes they rolled into.
Sprinklers won't help much with an EV battery fire.
You are probs right but i have been in a building when the sprinkler system has gone off and they put down an unbelievable amount of water its not just a gentle sprinkle like those things that water grass.
And they Shuldnt been anywhere here hospital or build up area they shuld b in scraps yards that's all they good for.
That's where all the diesels are going, the UK scrapped a million more diesels than new ones coming onto the road in 2023...which is great news. EVs will stay away from the scrapyards for longer as they are more durable, reliable and cheaper to run than those clunky piston engined things they fall apart unless you change their oil regularly. 😂
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Keep taking the meds.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 I'll keep running my diesel and paying nearly half as much per kilometre than I would if I used public charging (and not spending an hour running around looking for a functioning charger).
So, no EV rapid charging stations in hospital car 🚗 parks? Good plan.
I think EV should be parked separately from ICE cars in an open space away from buildings until a proper method of tackling fires is installed. DEFINITELY NOT in a structure!
For the EVangelists out there, ICE cars may burn occasionally, but those fires can be extinguished in a matter of minutes with little damage to structures. Until an EV fire can be put out in a similar period, with similar results, it's a risk that needs managing.
My insurance policy doesn’t cover my car if I park it next to an ev that catches fire.
I think you should show proof of this o you can't because it's totally bull
What if they park next to you?
@@Critical_Stinking nice one 😆😆🤣
I don't believe that however it makes sense 🤣
@@mralanvideo Could be but the policy would
be sound.
I'm guessing he's talking about
'garaged' at the same residence.
If you can deal with all the EV shortcomings, not being allowed to park in a hospital is surely child's play.
What 'shortcomings' are we talking about? Running costs a fraction of an ICE car? Smooth and silent acceleration? Minimal servicing required and no oil changes? Being able to 'refuel' at home, at work, while shopping?....please, do tell.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 You got silent right, silent killer
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Horrendous insurance cost - if you can get it at all. Coverage and network failure frequently prevent convenient charging, vertical depreciation, reduced range with every charge, fire risk, no service history when you sell the car, therefore no record of condition to name a few...Add to that, it is also often much more expensive to charge than run a petrol car. Far from universally cheaper, let alone a lot cheaper.
can you explain yourself please, dont understand your comment about childs play?
@@dcarbs2979 EV Insurance isn't difficult to get & costs not much different to a petrol car. 350 miles charged at home at 12p kw/hr is equivalent to 160 mpg. The UK has 60k charging points which is increasing every month & has already increased by 50% since last year. e.g. The charging hub at the NEC/M42 has 180 chargers the 300kw fast chargers take 10 mins to add 300 miles. Used EV`s have a service history & a battery condition report and stats show no more of a fire risk than any other car.
I wouldnt want to be anywhere close to those things.
If companies and organizations have to build special parking structures for EV's, then the owners of such cars should pay a premium for the construction of those specialized parking structures.
Just build them for Battery cars and charge for parking. Park them as close together as possible.
Or they could just use the parking structures that are made for everyone else. Given they are less likely to set on fire, if anything ICE cars should be paying more.
It will not be long until EVs are prohibited to enter all sorts of garages, just like all sorts of ferries. We had this already in the early 90´s when cars running on natural gas were prohibited to enter garages. This was the end of these cars, and it will be the end of EVs as well.
Some home insurance companies stipulate no EV in the garage already. If that sucker lights off, it can bring the whole house down.
If the hospital is upgrading sprinkler system for EV'S, up go the parking fees for everybody. Seems like we all pay for this agenda.
Money taken from the budget to run the hospital resulting in less operations, consultations, etc.,etc.
The apartment complex a block away from where I live has banned all EV's from their parking lot, and all electric bikes from the property after one of the bikes caught fire while plugged into and outdoor outlet. One guy that lived there was told he had to park on the street as he had a Chevy Bolt. He now has a tried and true ICE powered vehicle. He refused to park on the street. Traded it in within days of the ban.
My local hospital has EV charging points, AND Charging points for DISABLED EV drivers 😮 for one of these bays (it's covered btw) is about the size of a drive in jet wash. So they take up a crap ton of space in an already full up car park. SMH
There are so many reason to not own an EV, fire risk is just one. Sadly those who do own them are putting other people and their property at risk. Although 5 years for a doctors appointment? That can’t be right. The sad shape of health care in many countries is atrocious.
Waited 5 years for an appointment for his 7 year old son....... so needed medical attention at the age of 2 and had to wait until has 7 to get an appointment. ... you guys can take your free healthcare and shove it
I live in a three-story, 97 unit senior co-op. So far we've only had hybrid electric vehicles in the basement but there are at least two e-bikes, one parked next to my car. I think that when the first full EV shows up, the elected board is going to have to have discussions about indoor parking for them. I'd prefer not to have them in the garage at all, but there should at least be a rule that any EV that's been damaged in an accident or mishap or purchased used should be barred from parking there. At present, we have no power connections for full EVs but it's been discussed at meetings.
I agree with the hospital. A i.C.E vehicle needs a heat sourse to ignite where an EV does not.
An EV does need a heat source to ignite, and they come built in. Any one of the several thousand present will do the trick!
and that heat source can come from a local 12v electrical fault in an ICE vehicle, such as happened at Luton......................
Most ICE fires start because of the cars faulty electrics.
The fumes from an EV fire are toxic.
No idea where it's safe to park EVs. I think that's a question for Rishi Sunak. 😆❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Mars
I cannot fault them wanting to keep the risk of an Ev fire away from a hospital with hundreds of people in it, it’s not just the fire , it’s also the toxic fumes and the fact that EVs fires are so problematic to put out.
They should be banned, and told to use a remote parking facility. They can take an Uber from there.
No EV should ever be allowed to park in any public carpark in a building that is inhabited (apartment buildings) or at hospitals.
Or in ships.
I don't even allow visitors to park their EV on my property.....
Why are you having EV fires in the first place? I have been driving Nissan Leafs since they came out, and never had any such trouble knock on wood. I have heard of a few EV fires but don't know make or model. And don't know why one might be more apt to burn than something filled with gasoline? If electric cars are spontaneously combusting, there must be a reason for it. A short circuit or something. Are the burning cars using a new kind of battery? I have heard of Sodium batteries for example. My car works good, and I go to the gas station for lottery tickets. Leave me alone.
@@lonelyp1 Leafs only have a couple hundred cells. Some of these battery cars have over 7,000 cells and all it takes is one bad one to start the fire. Also 14,000 electrical connections and all it takes is one to start arcing.
‘I don’t fly in aeroplanes. Because I’m scared that it will crash’
Yes I believe the hospital is correct.
Spoiler; Water can't put out lithium fires, it burns hot enough to turn water into gas, and unless you rebuild the entire structure, also burns hot enough to melt concrete.
Mguy Australia needs this information
He probs will cover it, being an expat means he hears about and covers a lot of UK EV Shenanigans.
So he can misrepresent the story like he does with all the other ones he covers 🤣🤣
One of the multi storey car parks I use only has EV parking on the ground floor (around the edge). In the event of a fire, the fire brigade can just pull up outside and extinguish a fire from the road, eliminating the danger of entering the structure.
Never heard of a non-running ICE spontaneously combusting, unless there was a cigarette butt on the seat. It doesn't happen. And when a running car burns, it doesn't burn for days and weeks, or require full immersion in a canal or portable water tank, where it can still burn for hours.
Google ‘Luton airport fire’. Your welcome 👍🏻👍🏻
it made me smile A LOT when i heard this in the week
It's a no brainer. You can't use your mobile phone on a forecourt so this was always going to happen.
Ev parking charge point spaces funnily enough seem to be wider than normal ice vehicle parking spaces, wonder why ?
No "charging " for my diesel vehicle then. No mention of a petrol pump either. Discrimination!!!
Evs should be parked at oher EV owners houses only.
That's not fair!
I do feel that every EV should come with a pre-printed Darwin award, with instructions not to keep it in the vehicle. Just fill out the blank when needed.
instead of buying a stupid EV, the guy should have spent the money on a private doctor and his child wouldn’t have had to wait FIVE YEARS for an appointment!!!
Evangelists would say he should have had the child aborted anyway. Failing that, he had 5 YEARS to plan ahead for parking, right?
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Our hospitals in Australia are now using EVs for hospital business. They are usually parked up against the chargers in the carpark basement.
Upgrading the sprinkler system is good for normal fires but it still won't handle an EV fire. Keep the ban on EVs ongoing.
Just imagine that an EV Caught fire on a Cross Channel Ferry or God forbid mid journey under the English Channel on the Eurostar. !!!!
Was it at the burns unit?
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prick!
A medical system that lets a child wait 5 years for an appointment is a failure. How come this is not being discussed? - The hospital is correct though in not allowing EVs to park in areas that might put more people in danger during an EV fire.
People often criticize the American healthcare system but in 60 years I've never waited more than a couple of months for any appointment. That goes for me, my family, my kids. That's just insane.
That's the part of this video I found the most shocking. To make a child wait 5 years for treatment... I'm speechless. Is this normal?
@@vladimus9749 yeah 14 years of Tory austerity and mismanagement has made the NHS a bit of a mess, especially for certain scans/tests/treatments
EVs insurance should have 10 million property damage coverage.
They seem to be far to dangerous given the folks that have been released from prisons could use them for evil.
EVs need to park 50' from buildings.
Hospital is right. I avoid parking near milk floats. Was contemplating taking our motorhome for a holiday in the Channel Islands but I do not want to be on a ferry with a bomb onboard.
I keep seeing the EV apologists often claim that ICE vehicles catch fire more often but I want to see detailed stats. How many petrol or diesel engined cars spontaneously catch fire whilst parked as opposed to being driven?
Of course you already have bunch sick people there - and don't need more.
Lol yeah. I have kept looking for a different parking spot when I find myself next to an EV. Many times.
In France LPG cars are not allowed in underground parkings, because of explosion risks.
EV will follow at some point.
Batteries contain all three components to burn when prompted
In addition to the EV topic being interesting, as much as we in the US get slammed for people paying for healthcare, I'm aghast to hear it took 5 years to see someone in this story (NHS?). I can see someone next week in virtually any specialty here... with cost, yes, but there is strength to our model as well.
The beauty of socialized medicine.
Fantastic way to quell innovation as well.
The fire triangle is oxygen, heat and fuel. EV batteries don’t need oxygen, it has its own. The heat from a EV battery fire is tremendous and sprinklers would NOT reduce the temperature. You can’t remove the fuel because the battery IS the fuel.
That’s why they can burn for three days incinerating all the cars in the car park with it like in the multi-storey car park in Luton (I think)
Updating their water sprinkler system - I hope the hospital management knows that water and lithium fires are “a bit lively”.
Definitely EV's should have a separate designated section devoted to them alone labeled: Stop, drop and roll
😂 amazing. Thanks for the info
The Right things to do
Here in Aus, some landlords are not letting to people with EVs.
If electric vehicles are that bad then they should be banned from the streets altogether.
" his 7 year old son's appointment he's waited 5 years for" Wow there's another story here !
What good is a sprinkler system?
When did someone decide it's ok to use water on an electric fire?
Any kind of sprinkler system is useless against an EV fire. So on that risk factor alone they should have a separate parking area, away from buildings. Also, if the government has it's way, there will be a considerable number of EVs on the roads. Current multi storey car parks aren't designed to take their combined weight. This is another reason for them having a separate parking area. Otherwise we will start hearing about multi storey car parks structures being compromised and collapsing.
i went to a VW dealership yesterday and was told Diesels are in massive demand again