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Why Is Everyone Selling Or Trading In Their 2022 Chevy Silverado?
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Today I go over why I think people are trading in their 2022 Chevrolet Silverado 1500s for other vehicles!
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What you have shown us is why. I purchased 2022, believing I would have the larger screen and so on but no, all I got was a 2021 sold as a 2022. Great work on your video reviews.
Rather interesting… The old style should be discounted at least 5K..I wish the old days were back when I would go to a dealer and they would discount the truck 5K to 10K without haggling….. i’m one of the few who believes those days may return…🤔😳
Those days will return when people learn how to vote.
They will be discounted at the end of the year.
They’ll return 100% when cheap Chinese money gets squeezed out of our economy after the government collects it with high interest rates, dealers can’t overprice there scrap metal when the broke population can’t get low interest loans anymore
@@tonyskillz I agree I really see hard times ahead for most people… I really believe the economy is gonna go in the crapper later this year and all of next year.. But really I hope it doesn’t…..
I have a 2016 with 122k miles. I would never trade it right now! I can't imagine trading a 2022 Ltd for a new 2022...idiocy
The real reason everyone should get rid of them is due to the faulty lifters used for the DOD system and the faulty torque converters. These issues destroy the motors which is why GM is currently being sued.
Agreed
Bingo, wouldn’t touch another one of these trucks with the cylinder deactivation. Getting burned on one engine with a collapsed lifter and destroyed cam was enough for me. That stupid system costs way more to fix than it ever saves in fuel.
@@michiganman4398 I have owned multiple of the 07-13 GMs with the cylinder deactivation but thankfully for the older ones, there is this tuner made by Range that you can just transfer between vehicles so I have ran that for years. I am not sure how difficult it is to disable on the 2022s though.
That seems to be a GM issue, for some reason they have issues for years and refuse to change anything on the assembly line and just continue to it exactly the same for years.
Now there's a real reason. This video missed the mark in terms of identifying any reasons.
I bought one yesterday with 2,000 miles on it , one owner , clean car fax , no paint work, still had plastic over carpet and still smelled new. Bought it 7,500 below sticker , best deal I could find , most lots were above msrp
How is it running now?? 2 years later?? How many miles
@@George-on3zmLifters went
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Honestly loved the trail boss and the Silverado in general but the interior is the one thing I thought needed to change and that is what happened.
Just got a 2023 2.7 and seems great
The LTD's I found used were priced way to high. The new LTD's I found were what I call scraps off the production floor and not what I was looking for with a high price. It just led me to order what I wanted.
As usual, great video, Ben. Last July, I bought a GMC Denali 3.0 Duramax for two reasons: 1. I actually wanted the "old" interior. I like my trucks to look a little "trucky" and the Denali was already a stretch.... It's a little fancy for me. 2. It was about the time that GM was removing options (I had tried to order a High Country and cameras other than a back up camera were unavailable). I found this one on a lot and jumped on it because it was a "pre chip shortage" truck. A true Denali with the Ultimate package..not to be confused with the 2022 Ultimate trim level. The new interior is really nice but it just wasn't important to me. It's by far the best truck I've ever owned and I would encourage anyone to pick up a 2022 limited over the refresh. Keep up the great work, Ben.
Have the 21 at4 I love the Column shifter I like the new interior but I agree I like my gen over the new front ends. Love the 3.0 I’ve gotten over 32mpg on cruse control my last f150 averaged 11-14 smh
I ordered the Ltd on Halloween, got I before Christmas I couldn't be happier with it. I'm not a fan of a console shifter in a truck
Have fun with the 3.0 duramax. It has major design flaws, I'm surprised they are still putting it in trucks
@@SD-fs2zq I thought they had good luck with this engine compared to others, also duramax must not have the cylinder deactivation.
Yea I second this… 21 Sierra 1500 at4 here and I prefer having less sensors, cameras, just less tech that can go out down the road. An example I like a headunit that I can replace and possibly still be able to go aftermarket or oem if I wanted to. The way cars are moving these days…. Good luck replacing the tablet that’s hardwired into everything on your truck basically. Nice? Sure… but some folks are more practical and less swayed by gimmicky futuristic tech.
I’d prefer the projector LED housings in the new trucks vs the non projector version. Projector lenses direct the light better.
I added LED lights (and readjusted.) Far superior to halogens in the projection lenses.
I ordered the 23 Trail Boss loaded with the 6cyl diesel. I was stunned at its get up and go. Currently I have a 2002 2500HD Duramax that has been awesome for me for 21 years. Towed a 10k dump trailer for at least 250k miles out of 320k miles. I wanted better mpg and in retirement I won’t be using it as hard .
BTW I averaged 14 mpg I would say over the 320 k miles
Because they have faulty lifters and when one bank goes, chevy only replaces that side and you have to wait til you're stranded again for them to replace the other side...
DoD delete cam adter warranty is up
My lifters went bad but they replaced both banks! This happened on my AT4, haven't had any issues with the truck since. Although, I will be selling it for a ZR2 in 2 weeks!
@@ttrauto6150 Was yours a 21. Those did have defective lifters. There was a bad batch produced.
@@signkutter9218 Not possible in Qatar. It will fail inspection.
Nice comparison... It is plain and simple the interior of the new gen finally match the exterior (great looking truck).
Got a 22 Tahoe. Lovin it! 7year 100k warranty. I kept the old car as a spare in the event of mechanical issues
Did you have to pay additional money for that warranty?
I have the version you are showing. The dealership had both options, but I like the shifter on the column vs on the center console. As well I personally don’t like the bigger screen, think it looks bulky and messy. But because I didn’t buy the refresh I got an even better price and several accessory add on options for free.
I think you are just doing some tricky advertising, there is no way a pick up is worth $50,000 , $50,000 OMG!!!! Has the public people become that controlled?? How do you feel practicing con tricks
Agreed Shawn. I just bought the same one. Simplicity is key
I bought a Silverado T1 platform in Nov. 2019, LT, Z71, All Star package, and IDK, maybe because it was built early in the manufacturing run, the fit, finish, and mechanicals have been flawless, with the exception of TCC chatter, which was fixed by upgrading to the new Mobil 1 full synthetic transmission fluid. I'm old school, if I wanted a truck with the comfort of a minivan, I would have bought a minivan. Not selling mine at any price, even though currently I can get more than I paid for it. Best MPG has been 27 on the highway.
The mountains in the background are so majestic!
That’s the exact truck I wanted to get because it had a column shifter and a better front bumper. But then I ordered a ZR2 for about 15k more that has EVERYTHING. Side cameras, locking front and the bumper is awesome if you ask me
they sold you 1500 dollars worth of tech for 15k, LMAO
Locking front and rear differentials, modular bumper, cameras, 2 lcd screens, leather interior is worth 15 to me
@@adamwest3637 zr2 is a good looking truck, but the locking diffs and suspension upgrade isn’t worth that price. Lower trim and aftermarket upgrade is the way to go! Gratz on your purchase tho
Honestly I would keep the 2022 if you have no issues with it or anything looks good on the outside could live with interior
Pretty simple to me, the mid-cycle refresh introduced some small exterior tweaks but HUGE interior upgrade. That's the weakest part of the Silverado, the interior and GM finally fixed it.
This is a no-brainer to me. The interior being redesigned is the whole reason for the new model being more desireable. The old interior is/was horrible. Ben didn't mention that did he?
@@bobby3944 OK just wondering what was horrible about the 2022 Silverado interior ?
No the weakest part of silverado is its reliability.....I traded mine in on a 7 year old toyota truck ....no ZERO problems ever since..... Watch the car mechanics on here and what they have to say about reliability ...not the salesman!
@@jamesgreene9998 I'm talking about the older interior that Chevy/GMC had. I drive a 2019 Sierra for a work truck and the main issues seem to be electrical (gauges not working at times, instrument back lights not working, dash plastic getting scarred up, fitment issues, etc) . It is easy for me to compare GM trucks (work) to Toyota trucks (personal) as I have owned the latter for 35 years and their reliability, dependability and quality are excellent. I hope the quality of the new GM truck interior is improved.
Yup super obvious. The older version just sucked as a modern truck. It basically had an identical interior to a 2018 Chevy.
I had a 2019 Silverado but traded it in October 2021 and ordered the 2022 Refresh Dec. 18, 2021 the 1st day they were available to order. I had to do a short term lease on a 2021 Dodge 5.7 Hemi for 4 months.
Well my 2022 Chevy Silverado Refresh RST 6.2 came in Mar. 23, 2022. Sunroof, Power Back Glass, Leather Seats, 13.4 INCH SCREEN, etc.. was better than I expected. After having a 2015 -5.3 the 2nd year after the last upgrade started, then buying a 2019 -5.3 which was the same plain interior I knew my 2019 was over once I saw the Refresh version on UA-cam coming soon.. And at the time vehicles were up 43% on resell. Needless to say I sold the truck after driving it for 2 years and made a 1k more than I paid plus a good check after they paid the bank.
I love my new 2022 Refresh and the 6.2 is a different beast.. 🤔 what's the new slang.. OH, HIT HIT DIFFERENT!!
Thats why the Old version 2022's are stacking up, and the fact there's almost no price difference.
I have a 22 RST and I love it. Only have 1000 miles on it so far love the new screen and the interior
Still running strong?????
2020 3.0 Duramax RST 4x4 has been awesome, 30k miles and not a single problem. Even running hard off road. I'd probably only consider upgrading due to the new tow rating is almost 4,000 lbs higher on the 2022. And maybe for an actual 2 speed transfer case with 4lo. Not a huge fan of new front end look, but not a deal breaker.
No long crank?
@@jd03ctd long crank can be fixed by a update to software. It is believed to have been due to a few “bent” teeth on the exciter wheel. With the update to software, the computer will count more teeth before “starting”. It gives the truck like a .5 second longer crank overall, but no more missed starts. More info is available online about it if you’re interested.
Basically, it turns out it can be ‘fixed’ easily and without pulling the truck apart =)
i got the Z71 for that 2 spd.....shame it doesnt come standard
Two people that I'm aware of that have the 3.0 Durmax started having transmission problems around the 50k mark.
Love my 2022 Trailboss LTD with the 6.2 everything I need.
I just bought a new 2023 LTZ. It has the 2 tone Gideon leather interior. I absolutely love this truck. I would have passed on the 2022 version though. The 23 is a much more modern and ergonomic design. Console shifter, big flat center display and redesigned buttons and interior. Big step up from the old, dated Chevy design.
Wife has the 2023 LT and I think the inside is gorgeous
Just sold my 2019 RST. Loved that truck.
Have a 2022 AT4 on order...
maybe the soon to be huge engine recall has something to do with it.
The Refresh interior is the reason I would argue. I traded in my 2010 Silverado that I loved because it became a rust bucket after 12 years of New England weather. However I was not going to buy a truck that basically had the same interior 12 years later. I waited 2 months to specifically get the Refresh interior, which is a game changer if you use your cell phone for everything, business, pleasure, etc. Why buy a new truck if your going to get old tech. More importantly, I was one of the lucky ones that got the 5.3 without DFM and the truck runs amazingly. No stutter, like the old engine when it would switch between 4 and 8 cylinders - Chevy truck owners know exactly what I am taking about. Lastly the thing I hate though is this automatic tailgate, that doesn’t have an override, it’s annoying and just dumb - it’s going to fail in the dead of winter when I need to get my tools.
Personally, i prefer the old generation. Less to go wrong electronically and mechanically
I get you he says that people are trading in 2022 on the new ones they most of wanted that new interior pretty bad cuz you they took a major hit on that trade
Even though I have purchased two new vehicles since then, I have held on to my 2006 Silverado 2500HD 4x4 6.0L V8 that I purchased new in 2006. It was the last model of that body style and they had worked out all of the kinks if they even had any. I have had NO major problems and have done just routine maintenance (oil changes, brakes, wipers) for 144,000 miles, and have been everywhere and pulled lots of trailers. I only recently decided to change the spark plugs and the gear oil in the transfer case and differential for the first time; the oil was clean. I don't think the new Silverado's will last like that. They seem mostly about the swag. But, I'd love to have one. Unfortunately, the payment on my Silverado is $0 and has been for the past 13 years.
It's definitely because of the wireless Android & Apple CarPlay with new bigger screens with built in Google. I work at a GM dealer here in Ga & we are experiencing the same. But not the pricing, it's the new (finally upgraded) interior. Thanks for your videos.
I’m wondering when the basic work truck is going to come back. It’s definitely needed for the strange economic world that we live in. It’s just not worth having all the toys to break. I want some crank up windows no sensors and literally just comfort options being stripped down to AC and power mirrors are nice, but I can say that if I’m in the market for toys I’m going to a luxury car or something in that class. Trucks are for work…
I bet people heard about the bad batch of lifters GM put in the V8s. There’s a class action lawsuit about it.
Yes they must have done it on purpose
Beat me too it
What year
Anyone know of a good source to make sure I’m not going to overpay for a new truck? I’m ok with paying a fair price but not extra for no reason. Is there a way to look for the average out the door prices?
got a 2016 Seira and love it,very comfortable.Test drove a new one and what happened to their seat. After five minutes it got very uncomfortable. The other problem i had with it i had a difficult time seeing the speedo threw the steering wheel
They should discount the limited a bit more and then they will move much quicker.
My 2015 Silverado LTZ 6.2 extra cab has been rock solid. I traded in a 2010 Silverado LTZ 5.3, which was a good truck. The previous owner apparently pulled a boat with it and must have backed it into salt water. Horrible rust from rear axle back, the rest of the truck looked new. I do use a Range Technologies obd2 device to keep it in V8 mode all the time. Love my 15, sharp looking, very strong, she is a keeper. 👍👍
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What complete sister allows you to run at v8 at all times
@Subconsciously in ya head
The lifters still failed on cylinders 4 and 7 even with the device. I did a complete AFM delete with a BTR cam and LS7 lifters. Had computer reprogrammed . Now it's like it should have been from the beginning. All V8 , all the time.
2022 tundra is king of getting traded in where I’m at near Dallas. There’s literally one dealership alone that had like 20 last week
Ben do you know why the front end of 2019 Silverado will sometimes feel like it’s going to kick out from under or very unstable when going over pot holes or some bumps?
Yeah, I have a 2020 gmc 1500 elevation model and it does feel very unstable driving on potholes or bumps. Almost like you're gonna lose control
That’s called a solid rear axil
That's because American trucks sucks. Go get a Tacoma/Tundra.
@@nightowl7261 yep !! I just upgraded my piece of shit 2020 GMC truck to a 2021 V8 5.7 liter Tundra TRD Sport. Was gonna go for the 2022 but I wanted the gas gusling 5.7 !!!! Best truck I've had so far
Because GM is always “just one more year away” from introducing reliability as a new feature in their trucks..
And the another,then another,then another,then another.
What manufacturer do you recommend over GM?
@@grandifloralandscaping For reliability. Some Fords and most all Toyotas. Just follow the data..
If I ever get a Chevy pickup it will be the Trail Boss. My kind of truck.
Dealer just notified me 5/18/22 that my Denali ultimate would not have super cruise. And no retrofitting Reserved late November ordered 1/21/22. They want to know if i want to cancel order and reorder 2023 don’t know what to do?? Current 2019 high country has had Many problems some still not fixed. GM gave me owner loyalty coupon worth 5400$ that expires in November. So frustrated. What should i do ?????🤔
My 05 runs and drives like a dream..
5.3 with 191,000 + keeps on and on...
I TRADED IN MY 2022 GMC YUKON AT4 YESTERDAY for a 2020 RAM Power Wagon! The Yukon I had electrical issues like crazy and left me stranded. I gave GM two chances with a 21 Tahoe then the 22 Yukon AT4. The 21 Tahoe LT got trade because of Lifter issues. Back to my 5th MOPAR 🤗
At least 20 visits to the dealer in 5 years ,for parts made in China.Aaaaal ways electric problems.
@@deanjernstrom3760 I'm not too mad. I loved both the Tahoe and the Yukon. I have them on my channel and will be posting about the Yukon shortly. I'm happy again in a Power Wagon tho.
A lot of 21-22 Sierra and Silverado trucks with the 5.3 and 6.2 has significant issues with the engines and other quality issues. Many people got them fixed and traded immediately, likely before the issues hit the Carfax plus trucks are in high demand and buyers received top dollar for their trade.
My 2020 trailboss had to have the engine rebuilt at 8k miles. Rods and lifters. I traded it back in because there’s no way I can trust that truck not to blow up out of warranty. I’m still pissed about it
The 2.7t is the best engine by far in these trucks. The V8s will get dumped soon.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q . The 2.7 it’s a blender engine way to small. Get a titan that’s reliable.and torque.
@@ramiroescamilla7263 The Titan is a horrible truck from a horrible brand. I wouldn’t touch anything from Nissan with a ten foot pole.
just turned 50,000 miles on my 5.3 silverado. not a single problem.
I know this will sound old-school, but does anyone still buy trucks to use as trucks. Like to haul and pull stuff?
Wife had a 2020 RST 3.0 Duramax 10 speed, we got it new, loved it, spun a rod bearing at 35k. Warranty replaced the engine but she didn’t trust it ever again. Ordered a 22 LTD immediately. She wanted the EXACT SAME interior and gauges and everything as her 20 which is why we went with the 22 LTD. We ordered it with a 5.3 and at 15k miles we love it so far. She didn’t want the less “truck like” updated 22 interior. Only thing I don’t like is with the 5.3 it came with an 8 speed. I miss the 10 speed from her 2020
If they discounting the older one more I would buy one. Maybe they will if they sit long enough
6 min into a 8 min video before getting to the point. Reminds me of talking to my wife.
Some other have 2.7 4 cylinder engines, and are going back to V-8 engines. The 10 speed transmission is causing a lot of problems, and some dealers are taking 10-12 months to get them fixed!
I am building a Silverado on the Chevrolet website and one of the things that is really annoying is you can't get the max trailering package with the 3.42 gears with the Z71 off road package.
I think it has to do with the interior mostly. I have a 2019 LTZ and I think it should’ve had the new interior in it, being it was a redesign on the exterior. Gm didn’t do enough change on the interior when the 2019 came out imo….though it’s not that bad and it’s functional, it doesn’t compare to the updated version…
I've had my heart set on a 2022 LT Trail Boss REFRESH for a while now, but since I started my research, I've found Chevy has fallen short in one area in particular. The seating is terrible. Small thin scarcely padded seats throughout compared to the Ford and Ram. Although I experienced the new interior and was disappointed by the poor design of the seats, I'm still going to fully test drive the new Chevy and compare it to the new Ram Limited. The Ram's luxurious interior is hands down the winner between the two and the seats in the Ram are just heavenly, but I love that the Chevy comes with bucket seats and a center shift console, and I do prefer the look of the Chevy's exterior. Ram has a center shift console available, but in the GT option and only on the Rebel. So far, the Ram has exceeded in most categories, and I suppose the test drive will be the deciding factor. With each truck well optioned the Ram will still cost about 8K more, but these particular options for the Ram just aren't available on the Chevy such as the Air Ride suspension, HUD technology, 19 speaker Harman Kardon sound, and the dual glass panel roof. Or maybe I'll just keep on driving my 2014 Tundra and enjoy not having a car payment.
The best truck is the one that is already paid off haha
Thanks for the video.. I'm sure anyone looking to purchase a vehicle from Chevrolet will find it useful.. BUT, a word to those thinking of a Silverado Trail Boss with the 5.3L engine Or any pick up with that particular engine......DON'T..... You are almost guaranteed to have lifter issues. Anything from a ticking noise (lifters) to outright lifter collapse and motor failure. And it can happen at any time. In warranty and out of warranty. I own a 2019 trailboss and after 23000 miles lifters on bank one needed to be replaced under warranty. And at 74000 miles a lifter in bank 2 collapsed. It caused severe damage to the crank shaft and a new engine was put in it at almost $9000... My cost. There are thousands of these vehicles out there with this type of problem... I totally hate it when I call them and they say thank you for being a part of the GMC Chevrolet family. I can only imagine the problems with a first year model middengine Corvette. GMC Chevrolet has lost me as a customer for the rest of my life.
Nice video sir. But can you help me in this, what is the most fue economy truck available now, I don't understand those numbers 5.3 or 6.2 or 2.7 what is That mean. Thank you.
I have had a chevy suburban 2016 and my friend had 2017...we both swore that we will never buy a GM product ever again....they dont last at all...we both new and took care of it nicely...but especially after the first year always and always issues...so frustrating..
It's not a surprise. The 5.3 only does 5k miles before the valve train grinds itself to death. And the "babymax" has a no start issue by 10k miles, which requires the cab to be removed - very expensive. Folks ditch them once they are fixed. The best view of a Chevy is in the rearview mirror as you drive away.
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Wow I’m get a Nissan Titan then
@@robwwhit3453 ha we got a fan girl cheerleader
had both trucks.......after having the new one for lil while while sure its a bit nicer the functionality is the same and thats what i love about GM......everything is functional, not in a weird or awkward position like i felt the Ram was......i would do either one.......actually my 21 GMC elevation with cajun red tintcoat ( like RST in your video) ws one of the nicest looking trucks ive ever had.....wish i still had it tbh....the new one is dark ash metallic which is still pretty nice.....that GM red is amazing in person though.......after awhile you forget about all the little stuff that at purchase was so important....
We have 2 2018 Silverado Z71 both same dark graphite paint 4 door 4wd wife's is a 5.3 mine is a 6.2 . Solid trucks we love ours , both have 6" lift kits.
I knew this would happen. The old interior compared to new be it silverado or Sierra, is a huge change and should be viewed as a major sacrifice for someone to buy the old version today. Not comparable. But prices aren’t reflecting it yet. Starting to in some cases but there’s a long way to go. We’ll see what happens at the end of the year into next. Interest rates are going to screw everyone. The days of easy money for these dealers are about over.
…for the time being
Exactly correct
@@nyleslehnen4751 I ended up getting an AT4 with the old interior to lock in the interest rate last year. Not disappointed. Most comfortable and loaded vehicle I’ve ever had. There was still no price savings. Lol
There are many who like the "old" interior (meaning mostly the instrument cluster) better than the "new". The "new" instrument cluster does not look that different from Ford, Ram or Toyota. The "old" cluster looks like a Chevy truck. Plus, it gives you more real time information than the "new" idiot lights do. And, for someone who likes to electronically shift through the gears, having the gear shifter on the column makes a whole lot more sense than having to reach down to the console for your shifts. The console shifter takes up a huge amount of space. A console shifter makes sense on a Corvette even if it is an automatic, but not so much on a truck. It is hardly a "major sacrifice for someone to buy the old version today".
When did the new change happen 2023 ? Wife got one and it looks awesome inside LT
Yes the interior is the only upgrade. I looked into trading in my 2020 2LT trailboss with only 10k miles on it for a new one, but after taxes and paying full sticker on these new trucks it would cost me an extra 15k and I don't think it's worth paying 15k for a slightly bigger screen and digital display. I got 7500 off sticker this truck back in 2020 and those days are long gone to get deals like that.
Exactly I'd be paying an additional 20k! For a refresh, just doesn't make sense financially.
I also agree. I absolutely love the ZR2. The dealer offered me $55k for my 2020 LTZ crew cab 6.2. But I would be paying sticker for the new truck. I love the ZR2. But not for an extra $16-18k after taxes. My salesman even said to me. Your nuts to trade your truck in. He said the days of $10k off the sticker are gone. He actually feels bad for the new customers that have to pay msrp
@@robertng135 Yes the zr2 is an awesome truck with the suspension, lockers, the 33s and that fender cutout looks pretty cool too. The only thing I'm not crazy about is that 6.2L that requires premium fuel. If I ever trade in my trailboss, it's gonna be for an other trailboss because they offer them now with the new duramax which can get over 30mpg on the highway, but that is a few thousand dollar upgrade.
I have a 2020 Trailboss as well. I wouldn't pay extra just to get an updated interior. At the end of the day it's a "truck"...it's not a luxury sedan or suv.....trucks are suppose to be a little rugged and simple
@@coreypatterson1386 yes and I know people complain a lot about how outdated the interior was but it's actually very functional and the screen is responsive. I like how it still has physical buttons other than the touch screen. The only thing I would like my trailboss to have is the 3.0 duramax which is now an option on the new TB
I was driving through farm country and visited a Chevy dealership, it had a 6.2 liter 4 x4 there for 67K do those trucks have the issues as well?
I have a 2022 RST 4X4 LTD. I may be one of few but I like the "truck" look of the older one. The new refresh is very nice and I will not knock it. But for me I wanted a truck and not a car interior. The new refresh is fancy and I also feel that if done right you can get a better deal on the Limited version. I got mine at the end of the Month and of the Quarter and Very end of 2021. I was also the first deal of the day. So they were willing to make a deal workout. It basically comes down to personal choice.
I got rid of my 2019 because I didn’t trust it for the long haul!!!!
I hated the old interior and it was a no go for me. I traded my Audi in for the refreshed 2022 Trail Boss 6.2L and it's amazing. No discount but I love it.
Hope you have better luck than I did with my 2020 trailboss. Rods and lifters went at 8k miles. After doing research, turns out it’s a rather common issue. I’ll never buy another GM product and I tell anyone that’ll listen to stay away from GM
Lester Parker I've never understood that attitude from people. "I had one bad experience from one model car and I'll never buy from that company again". Every car company has the occasional bad apple.
@@IAmMoparNut it’s not “one bad experience”. It’s happened to thousands of people. I live in a small town and the tech said he does a couple every month and has for years. It’s a pretty common issue and GM doesn’t care enough to fix it
Enjoy that new truck, Jason! That's a sweet rig!
@@lesterparker1594 a simple afm / dfm disabler fixes the issue but of course people don’t research what they buy until it breaks do what I did and research what’s wrong with cars before hand and fix them yourself adding a trans cooler bypass and adding the afm disabler my Sierra has ran amazing
Man I love my 21 Cherry Red Z71 LTZ. Rides great. Have over 18k on it with no problems. It’s been the best pickup I ever owned so far. This pick up turns heads!
Is it still running strong no problems?????
The trail Boss trucks look great, Its a great concept if not mired with mechanical problems. I have been hoping GM would get rid of the 5.3 and modernize the truck with an updated V8. I have understood the cylinder deactivation feature takes years off the life of the truck. More so than the savings in fuel if any it may provide. Trucks are not bought to be gas savers. People need dependable and work to be done. I have a 5.7 Tundra but its not my daily driver. The days of owning a truck as a daily driver are probably over here in the states. Putting stupid miles on a 50,000 dollar truck just to the grocery store and back is a waste of money. My 2018 has 23000 miles. The first year i drove it put 265.00 in fuel every month. I decided to buy a used small car for the savings in fuel. Its not a complete wash in terms of savings but if i sell the truck it can be. When i would decide not to drive somewhere because i knew i was stopping to put gas in it then i knew having a vehicle that got 36mpg and drive anywhere and not cost a fortune in fuel that day. If the trail Boss came in a 2500 series truck it would really be cool.
I've got a 2004 Dodge 2500 diesel. I bought it new in 2005. It has less than 90K miles on it. I don't drive it unless I need to tow or haul something.
Its difficult to trust a product when the internal engine components cant go the distance. GM's DOD/AFM lifters have had problems dating back to 2007 and not much has changed, they are still failing which usually takes out the cam as well.
I got 50k on my 2020 no issues with DFM on my 6.2
@@NicholasOrlick wait another 30 or 40k .
The delete is super easy to do .
@@Dr.Westside I’m good. If it were to happen it’d happen it’d happen around 10-20k. If it happens at 53k+ oh fucken well.
Have a 2021 and factory deleted dfm. Lost a mile or two on the highway but will not have lifter problems, hopefully
The biggest reason people get rid of the new Silverado is because it is junk! Bad engines, bad transmissions, bad front axles, rattles everywhere! I bought a 2020 Silverado, had to have tires replaced because they were out of round and one even blew out. Transmission died with 5000 miles on it, dealer replaced torque converter and did fluid flush. Always had a rear window rattle that would not go away. GM is just pure crap! Traded that POS on a 2021 Titan, best decision I made concerning a new truck. The Titan has run flawless for over a year now and with a 5yr/100,000 mi. warranty. No AFM, no cylinder deactivate, just pure 400hp getting 21mpg running 75 mph on the highway with the AC on! Nissan has nailed it with the Titan!
The company truck brand new Silverado 2022 36xx miles and won’t turn off?.. we pushed the off button and the engine is still running! What is up with these?
I love my 2020 Trail Boss LT with the 6.2 and 6 1/2' bed. I have the mid night package and leather. I like the analog gauges and the column shifter. It has been a trouble free truck since new. I currently have one mod. The Pulsar LT. No more start stop and dynamic fuel management crap. It stops all that nonsense.
Some of the best money you could spend on the truck. I'd definitely put a catch can on it l, if you plan on keeping it
@@bryanwilliams3815 shoot,, Forgot I did put a catch can on. Have it on my new 2021 Camaro SS 1LE too. You are correct, they do work well to keep all that crap oil out of the intake.
What brand of catch can did you put on?
@@jimbradd2783 Jim, I purchased this from Amazon. J&L Oil Separator Co. 3.0 Oil Separator Compatible with 2019-2022 Chevy Silverado/GMC Sierra 1500 5.3L/6.2L & 2021-2022 Chevy Tahoe, Suburban, & GMC Yukon/Yukon XL 5.3L/6.2L Driver Side (Black)
They'll blame the chip shortage but Chevy got greedy. Keeping the old version only makes sense if its a value option. Like the Ram 1500 Classic. Often times those are $10,000+ under the new Ram's price. Why would I pay the same for worse tech, worse materials, and old styling? It also creates market confusion especially when "Limited" usually indicates higher end premium products in the automotive world
I see tons of used trail boss trucks in all the dealerships around me here in Miami. It makes sense, with gas prices where they are, and going to get higher with an announced increase on June 1. No one wants these V8 trucks. Then the dealership is reselling these "used" trail bosss for like more than the new ones. It's insane. Seems to me if you want me to buy a truck with a V8 in this environment we are living right now, you better discount this truck at least 10k below the new ones. My prediction is in the last year with the insane money dealers have paid people for their used trucks, these dealers are gonna have a huge problem in the next year. Cause no one is going to buy these trucks that probably use 120$ in gas a week. They are going to loose their asses and its gonna be a huge disaster for the automotive industry. Meanwhile we have a president fiddling his thumbs instead of getting in front of problems he just lets them linger until they are un fixable.
The 5.3s have been problematic for 3-4 years.Keeping my 2020 RST.Not lookin to pay 20% more for Flex Pro and bigger screen.I went 6.2 and it also has issues.Specifically valve body
I didn’t catch it in the video or comment below, but I like that the newer model also offer the multi-flex gate. And the diesels can come with max towing package (up to 13k I think? Haven’t seen the updated towing guide as I’m sure a 4x4 short-bed Crew will be less than that, but I’d still expect an improvement over the ~9k the older Duramax can tow (and I’d expect similar increase in payload).
You can get the ltd with the tailgate
Thanks!
I think that tow capacity is with a V8. I have the 6cyl Duramax trail boss on order. I believe it’s 9500# . I don’t understand the differences as I currently have the 2002 2500hd Duramax. Pretty amazing that the 6cyl has 5more hp and only 30# less torque. It’s usually all the suspension and brakes that differentiate towing capabilities
Traded in my 2020 Silverado LTZ last month for a 2022 F150 King Ranch Powerboost. From powertrain to interior there is no comparison to the Fords. I was a huge fan boy of chevys for 10+ years but the 5.3 with afm and 8 speed transmission was terrible and most people who have drove one will agree with me. Interior features and quality are not comparable. I know the new refreshed Silverado looks a lot better inside but it's fun to try something else. Also I have the powerboost hybrid with 650 miles per tank and the 2.4kw generator which is a game changer!!
The 6.2 10 speed in GM products is fantastic. I too am a fan of the powerboost, it’s got serious get up and go
not a fan of the ford exterior
I currently own a 2017 and use a Range Tech to keep it in 8-cylinder mode. Because the newer Silverados have DFM, where they drop down to 1 or 2 cylinders, and have that insipid auto start/stop, I don't think I would ever buy another one. However, if the combustible engine goes away all together, the point may be moot. Also, try replacing the battery on one of these newer Silverados--biggest PITA ever!
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I just got my new refreshed Chevy trailboss in sand dune color. I may be the only one driving the new refresh trailboss in my county.
Interior is upgraded to the point of satisfaction. Exterior went from Optimus prime to Bart Simpson. The refreshed GMC Sierra, however, looks great inside and outside.
This Chevrolet Silverado is a awesome truck you can take it off road and you can put any thing. You can wrap up put a light bar on it make it your own truck
I'll take the Ram w analog gauges over the GM refresh, also prefer the 5.7
Amen brotha!
Definitely that over the Ford F-150 and Toyota Tundra if I can't buy the Chevy Silverado/GMC Sierra, hell I'll take a Nissan Titan.
The next colorado made huge improvements can't wait to trade my 22 colorado for it but might be a long time
That LTD interior now looks like something from the 90s. Dealers here in SoCal are still trying to charge sticker or only discount $500 fro the LTD.
The 8-speed transmission and lifter failure fiasco has ruined me for life from ever buying another GM vehicle, especially a Silverado. I moved on to the Ford F-150 and can't believe just how much better of a pick-up truck the F-150 is when compared to GM. I was a very loyal Chevrolet customer and owned four new Silverados over the years. But I learned that my loyalty to them wasn't the same loyalty they had for me, which was none. I moved on, and I am much happier now.
F-150 has cheap looking interiors, rust and turbo lag issue… no? Good-luck w/ that rust bucket.
Same, looking to purchase a new truck when this craziness is over, & Chevy is crossed off my list.
GM got rid of the DFM/AFM crap that was ruining these engines. Unfortunately Ford decided to start using them in their 5.0 you would think they would have learned from GM problem’s with that cylinder deactivation crap.
@@joeytakach7131 the DOD-less builds are only temporary; it will come back when the chip shortage improves. I agree Ford should stay away from DOD. Even Ram suffers lifter failures with its system.
@@wint_62 Lol. No turbo lag on mine. 450HP AND 510T. She is way quicker than any truck I've owned. Btw, aluminum bodies don't rust, ever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Pro tip for Ya, Ford changed to all aluminum bodies in the model year 2015.
It's not a mystery. Obviously, people want the new interior because the old one is awful. The pre refresh interior looks like it's from the 1990s which is why GM has been relentlessly criticized for it. That said, there will be plenty of buyers who don't care about the interior that will snatch up pre refreshed trucks at a nice discount.
I agree. It was a very odd video and question he posed. I thought it was going to end with him doing a big “Ah Ha” reveal for everyone and saying how great the interior was and how it was so good that people were trading their recent purchases in.
Yes after seeing the interior in the video here I see what you are saying
It’s because the interior being refreshed. Because I own the 2022 Trailboss 6.2L limited. I purchased it last year in November and then I seen the refreshed 2022 coming out this year and I didn’t like the front end but the interior being refreshed with this screens and T handle shifter I was like wow! But if I got rid of my trailboss I’m going with the zr2 Silverado instead.
Hoping the new projector housings headlight score better than the reflector housings. On iihs the reflectors scored poor
5.3 sucks..6.2 only way to go with Silverado..expensive yes but you got power without going super big
If I trade in my trail boss will be for a Ram 1500 what happened its a lot people had so many problems with the Silverado lifters and transmission lack or jerk the interior as well and the 5.3L due to less hp should be GM increase the hp on the 5.3L 410 hp and 430 on torque but people getting boring I guess with the old power train GM quality its not good anymore good
Content Ben keep up Bud
I bet a lot of people are trading in for the same reason I just did... the used Market is ridiculously inflated as well. If you can get a halfway decent deal on a new one and make a ton of money on the old one, why not?
Hmm does the 2023 5.3 motor have the same or faulty lifters and torque convertor for the DOD systems as mentioned below? So confusing as I want to get down to one, nothing fancy just dependable all around vehicle of a truck, (now have 2 vehicles) and be able to just drive many miles, put in gas and maintain it without issues and or recalls. Maybe the 6.2 or 6.6 gas engine or ? What truck would you buy now? Confused.
Colorado/Canyon 2.5L I4 with 6-speed auto is GM's most-reliable truck you can buy as new. 2022 will be its final model year. Engine power may be an issue for most folks, however.
The Sierra is so superior in the looks department.
That’s an opinion at best. I know many who say the same exact thing about Chevy. I think it comes down to personal preference…
@@kenna.9368 yes it is but those that think the Chevy is better looking are wrong.
@@blutomindpretzel263 lol another opinion
I would never buy a GM product, but I totally agree. Chevy looks like crap and the GMC is way better.
@@kenna.9368 The correct opinion, coming from a Chev owner
Unless you can make up the difference for tax, title, registration, etc there's no way you would come out ahead TRADING that truck for a new one "at the same price." They will bend you over on trade value then you pay all the terms pricing and gonna lose big
Actually that’s not true, there is great value in used vehicles still because dealers don’t have any.
@@jhb3711 show me a dealer that will overpay enough for your trade to offset a new purchase and then I'll be a believer. Yes, you might be able to pull it off as a private sale, but I promise you won't do it with a dealer trade
Was looking into a 2021 1500 silverado as my first truck ever. These reviews and videos are definitely steering me away. Looking at tacoma now 🤔
Bought a 2017 tacoma trd pro brand new. 5 years later I've spent $5,000 on it and it's still not fixes. I went with this truck because it was supposed to be the most reliable. Fu*ck Toyota. That's why I'm looking at Silverados now. Lol
Buy the Tacoma. You'll be better off.
Don’t forget the front drive shaft humming
It’s because the interiors in the older models are absolutely atrocious
I know i won’t be trading in my 21 Lunar Rock Toyota Tundra TRD PRO anytime soon.
The AC part that's needs the whole Dash pulled out to replace that used to be in the engine bay
So what’s your point?
They should 'dump' the old model to Australia- 12 to 18month wait list here.
it comes down to evolving, you either evolve or die, and this truck is bland and boring compared to its competitors, especially with the price tag consumers want more bang for there buck!
The new cluster and screen are sweet.
RST 5.3 4X4 with 41k truck has been solid. Just did a 1,400 mile road trip. Truck has been good. I change oil religiously every 3k. We'll see at 100k