Horseless Carriage - Shut Up & Sit Down Review

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  • Опубліковано 8 лют 2023
  • No horses in this game, no sir. Just car. Big horse made of metal. Kind of like a cow made of metal if we’re being real. Cowless Carriage isn’t as good a name though, plus it doesn’t make any sense. I really like the name of this game, y’know? Horseless Carriage. It’s maybe my favourite name of any tabletop game. I didn’t say that in the review because I couldn’t find a place for it, but I think it’s a true fact. Oath is pretty close behind, swiftly followed by Hey That’s My Fish.
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  • @cyndanetierney6449
    @cyndanetierney6449 Рік тому +663

    I just watched a 20 minute video about a game that I could tell five minutes in I wouldn't care for. Listening to Tom talk about a game that he really enjoys is so much fun, though.

    • @Veggieman87
      @Veggieman87 Рік тому +9

      I remember the same when Pipeline came out a few years ago (edit to include the shoutout at the end, I thought they'd mention it!). I knew it was something I would bounce off of, but the team explained it so well and with that trademark SU&SD enthusiasm that I could completely understand what people would enjoy about it.

    • @nathangrantham7889
      @nathangrantham7889 Рік тому +7

      This is why I love SU&SD

    • @TravisGarris
      @TravisGarris Рік тому +11

      I watched a 20 minute video about a game that I could tell five minutes in I really needed to own.
      This community is the best.

    • @RaduStanculescu
      @RaduStanculescu Рік тому +1

      I love Food Chain Magnate and Roads & Boats, but this one seems like something I would hate passionately. Little interaction, fiddliness, very, very long game... Yeah, I don't see why I'd play this one.

    • @Draffut2003
      @Draffut2003 Рік тому +1

      Smartphone Inc does this and is fun. Even has the 8 phase system.

  • @jdarksun
    @jdarksun Рік тому +113

    "Fiddle" is one of the most important short films of all time. Also I love listening to Tom talk about ... uh, everything?

  • @tomsule
    @tomsule Рік тому +134

    As a not native speaker I'm admiring Tom's pronunciation and clarity, I can easily watch him without captions. It's a nice experience listen to you, Tom!

    • @windyhillbomber
      @windyhillbomber Рік тому +3

      I’m Australian, got no idea what he’s saying…😂

    • @peterstedman6140
      @peterstedman6140 Рік тому +3

      @@windyhillbomber something something joke about people down there not actually speaking english

  • @iamevn
    @iamevn Рік тому +7

    I managed to grab a copy of roads and boats and it's absolutely incredible, maybe my favorite joke in it is that the resources required to make an airplane are a goose and two planks

  • @DriveThruReview
    @DriveThruReview Рік тому +30

    The short film is the greatest thing I've seen in a long time. (Still want to give this one a crack). But... just.. standing ovation there for that.

  • @BasketOfPuppies642
    @BasketOfPuppies642 Рік тому +37

    This game is obviously not for me, but I love Tom's delivery so much that I'm watching to the end.

  • @Tornroot
    @Tornroot Рік тому +8

    16:00 "You'll probably know by now if this is for you". I knew within 30 seconds it wasn't for me, but I stuck around for the great comedy and delivery.

  • @jesseclark7105
    @jesseclark7105 Рік тому +40

    As someone with hundreds of hours in Satisfactory, this looks like exactly the sort of life-ruining experience I've been searching for in board gaming.

  • @juanpablomenchon770
    @juanpablomenchon770 Рік тому +141

    I love Tom's reviews. Quinn's work is funny and on point, and Matts's reviews are clever and often amusing, but Tom is on a whole other level. You can tell he is passionate about what he does and finds the best ways to deliver his message using visually compelling sketches and artwork. It reminds me of the old Shut Up & Sit Down, back when Paul and Quinn were still experimenting and trying to make something new.

    • @Zalintis
      @Zalintis Рік тому +7

      He's just got that youthful energy! And dedication and timing and editing skills and and and :P

    • @JCPRuckus
      @JCPRuckus Рік тому +5

      Tom is an obviously insane man who is even more Paul than Paul ever was... and it's amazing.

    • @kaijuh
      @kaijuh Рік тому +2

      TOM IS THE ONLY REASON I WATCH THIS CHANNEL. You can tell the other guys already lost their passion for this. Tom still has hope in his voice

  • @mythaniakeroberos2405
    @mythaniakeroberos2405 Рік тому +8

    I absolutely loved that 10 seconds of editing in beat with the Wii Shop Channel music.

  • @thanzocam
    @thanzocam Рік тому +12

    that short film in the middle of the review was incredibly evocative. I know the horror and mess of slightly adjusting a board and all the pieces are now in the wrong place.

    • @adamsbja
      @adamsbja Рік тому +2

      That moment when someone bangs their knee on a table leg and everybody freezes trying to figure out what the damage is.

    • @andrewh5568
      @andrewh5568 Рік тому +2

      Axis and Allies. 2006.
      We'd spent about a half hour setting up and ONE person had had their first turn and my mates huge dog bumped the very light table we were using.
      We never went back and played that game ever again.

    • @caitlinsticco8008
      @caitlinsticco8008 Рік тому

      All it was missing was the moment when the cat decides to get involved.

  • @jeffersonkamdon9857
    @jeffersonkamdon9857 Рік тому +15

    Having played a friend’s copy of Horseless Carriage, I can say you’ve nailed this review Tom. All your points are spot on to how we feel

  • @Serelenntidude
    @Serelenntidude Рік тому +19

    This looks like a fun, interesting game I would love and can't introduce to anyone I know.

  • @NeverTheSame
    @NeverTheSame Рік тому +18

    I'm so excited to get my copy of this. I've yet to play a Splotter design that didn't either blow me away or at the very least, completely intrigue me.

  • @TzarinaMystra
    @TzarinaMystra Рік тому +5

    The short fiddle film was by far one of my favorite SUSD things lately. I immediately understood what it was complaining about 😆

  • @konkyolife
    @konkyolife Рік тому +30

    Tom is the best board-game reviewer online hands down. His crazed obsession with learning each nook and cranny of the entire game means you only need to listen to him and no one else.

  • @adriansolis5362
    @adriansolis5362 Рік тому +4

    Tom is really coming into his own for his style of reviews. Really loving it. I always look forward to SU&SD content because of all the quirkiness y'all add (and because I love board games).

  • @vaevin33
    @vaevin33 Рік тому +4

    Stop motion animation of a sleeve accidentally pushing pieces around to the sound of Debussy is oddly poetic.

  • @LordWitwenmacher
    @LordWitwenmacher Рік тому +2

    What a beautiful twist! You nearly had me in tears for sheer awe!

  • @IndianaGeologist
    @IndianaGeologist Рік тому +6

    Tom is a hero for keeping SUSD going in board game reviews.

  • @ollieclark2808
    @ollieclark2808 Рік тому +3

    Such talent from these guys, best board game reviews on the internet. This looks like the kind of game my group would hate, but loved the review!

  • @Nymbys
    @Nymbys Рік тому +33

    On those Twitch streams, is it just gonna be video games? Or will the team get back to board games? Personally, I would LOVE to see everyone play a round or two of Mind Mgmt!!

    • @Josh-hz8vz
      @Josh-hz8vz Рік тому +3

      Would be nice if they’d do more live board game play throughs in general. Not sure if they decided those videos didn’t get enough views, they haven’t done it in a long time outside of digital on twitch.

  • @jokerES2
    @jokerES2 Рік тому +8

    A new Splotter I will never get around to playing.

  • @wookbucket
    @wookbucket Рік тому +10

    Seems like one I’d jump to play at a convention, but I won’t go and buy a copy till I’ve tried it myself. Thanks Tom!

    • @lassepoulsen7777
      @lassepoulsen7777 Рік тому

      That's the same advice Splotter gives themselves on their website. "Our games ain't for everyone, we suggest to try before you buy" is quite an alternative sales pitch 🙂

  • @03dashk64
    @03dashk64 Рік тому +2

    That short film in the middle was so avant-garde. Magnificent.

  • @garyk5277
    @garyk5277 Рік тому +1

    That sleeve slo-mo.......pure gold😅

  • @number-one-dilf-fan
    @number-one-dilf-fan Рік тому +2

    You guys are my favorite content creators. Period.

  • @shanebitner8991
    @shanebitner8991 Рік тому +1

    Great vid Tom, the monthly news letter on the Patreon was also a good read. It's cool to see the perspective of someone on the creator side of these videos

  • @caitlinsticco8008
    @caitlinsticco8008 Рік тому +5

    This kind of review is so helpful for understanding whether or not a given game is going to be fun for *me and my friends*, rather than just good or bad. I appreciate that so much! Except sometimes Tom's enthusiasm makes me want games that I can tell no one I play with will like, just because he makes them sounds so *interesting!* (E.G., I'm still kind of weirdly pining for Oath, a game I'm 90% sure I would find too cutthroat myself and that I'll never get to play, lol.)

    • @caitlinsticco8008
      @caitlinsticco8008 Рік тому +1

      Huh, use of emphasis asterisks twice in one comment behaves unexpectedly. Strange.

    • @RatchetSly
      @RatchetSly Рік тому

      For what it's worth, most of my games of Oath have been quiet first halves as we explore and set up, followed by utter slugfests until the game snaps shut. The limited number of rounds helps a lot.

  • @hirnlos9462
    @hirnlos9462 Рік тому +2

    Tom: I choose this wide angle to show you the entire game.
    YT: Ill put some video recomendations over the entire game, so you can see none of it.

  • @mattparkinson8471
    @mattparkinson8471 Рік тому +5

    I swear to god you guys best be talking about this on the podcast. I need more..

  • @Livelifevicariously
    @Livelifevicariously Рік тому +1

    Listened to the first podcast with Tom in it last night as I was having trouble sleeping. Tom’s videos are kind of the best.

  • @nazokashii
    @nazokashii Рік тому +1

    Always enjoy your reviews :) thank you so much

  • @emerson1818
    @emerson1818 Рік тому +10

    10:57 decaf still has a little caffeine in it, so drinking that much probably just has the same effect of drinking one cup of regular coffee.

    • @domgrindncrank
      @domgrindncrank Рік тому +3

      No regulation as to what constitutes decaf coff, could be just 20% less caffeine, still considered decaf, as been through a process

    • @calebyarbrough7705
      @calebyarbrough7705 Рік тому

      Yep I think Tom's got a bit of placebo effect going on here.

  • @joewalsh1031
    @joewalsh1031 Рік тому +1

    I predict an Academy Award for the soulful, thoughtful short film 'Fiddle'.

  • @MeTalkPrettyOneDay
    @MeTalkPrettyOneDay Рік тому +1

    The more I watch these videos, the more I want to be friends with the SUXSD crew. Mandatory new boardgame nights? Hell yeah.

  • @RandyJC250
    @RandyJC250 Рік тому +1

    Lol the "fiddle" segment was a piano solo. That was great!

  • @brianbouton3091
    @brianbouton3091 Рік тому +1

    Just here to listen to Tom talk about anything; it's a bonus the game was fascinating and reminded me of some very high end Galaxy Trucker in parts.

  • @deusex3124
    @deusex3124 Рік тому +1

    Making the car with the different tiles and having to manipulate them around in the factory space reminds me of inventory management in Resident Evil.

  • @fairlyodd922
    @fairlyodd922 Рік тому +16

    Tom + Splotter = distilled madness

  • @markhenderson6389
    @markhenderson6389 Рік тому +1

    The first minute alone makes this review worth watching!

  • @ThePiachu
    @ThePiachu Рік тому +2

    Hey, where can we see that video where the ohter SUSD meeples talk about Road and Boats? Those clips really got me interested in hearing more! :D

  • @ludwigmises
    @ludwigmises Рік тому +1

    I watched a rules explanation on another channel and commented that it looks really fiddly. So I appreciated that short film, “Fiddle.”

  • @LoneWolf-zc7nw
    @LoneWolf-zc7nw Рік тому +2

    My favorite Splotter is The Great Zimbabwe which never gets enough love. It is easy to teach. It is not fiddly and table hug; in addition it can be finished under 3 hour even with 5 players. More importantly it is the most unique game that I have ever played with it's adjustable winning condition and Mancala auction mechanism.

    • @celestialspark5697
      @celestialspark5697 Рік тому

      I have a hard time picking a favorite, but I agree that The Great Zimbabwe gets a lot of points for being relatively quick and having less overhead to learn. I will say that it's arguably the worst Splotter title at two players, though; a lot of the options in the game just have no real effect or make no sense to use without multiple opponents. (On that note, I didn't catch Tom saying it in the video, but Horseless Carriage has a hard three player minimum.)

    • @LoneWolf-zc7nw
      @LoneWolf-zc7nw Рік тому

      @@celestialspark5697 None of Splotter are good at two players. Splotter games like Mac Gerdts need minimum 3 players to shine. I have never try but I heard Antiquity is only Splotter can be played relevantly good at two players which is one of my least favorite Splotter games.

  • @karolmikolajczyk6347
    @karolmikolajczyk6347 Рік тому +1

    the fiddle is part of the in universe experience

  • @styfen
    @styfen Рік тому +3

    I built a TTS table for playing this and it's a smoother and better experience than playing it physically due to being able to lock stuff in place.

  • @AutumnReel4444
    @AutumnReel4444 Рік тому +1

    "'Fiddle' was the horror film we weren't ready for, no one was. Deeply effecting, 10/10."

  • @samuelwillmot2972
    @samuelwillmot2972 Рік тому +1

    Just gotta comment and reaffirm my love for Tom’s reviews.

  • @benjamincarter6095
    @benjamincarter6095 Рік тому +1

    Knowing the game makes this video even better.

  • @timhorton8085
    @timhorton8085 Рік тому +1

    by drinking multiple full pots of "decaf" coffee you're getting the same amount of caffeine as just drinking a reasonable amount of regular. Decaf doesnt mean no caffeine. Congrats on feeling invincible though.

  • @zawadi9949
    @zawadi9949 Рік тому +2

    Happy that "fiddle to faff ratio" lives on

  • @xHomu
    @xHomu Рік тому +1

    What the factory floor needs to be is a breadboard.

  • @charlescarpenter9098
    @charlescarpenter9098 Рік тому +1

    I would love if you did a whole Splotter Spotlight. Food Chain Magnate is great, and I only played Roads and Boats once, but I'd love to see your take on all the others.

  • @ruudmarks
    @ruudmarks Рік тому +2

    Great review! Just a little tip: decaffeinated coffee still holds 20-30% caffeine. So if you drink a bucket of decaff instead of 2 normal coffees you are not tricking your brain... You just drank the same amount of caffeine... 😳

    • @JohnShrader
      @JohnShrader Рік тому

      The tricking your brain part comes in thinking you’re not getting caffein when you are.
      I’m assuming. :p

  • @martenvisser8483
    @martenvisser8483 Рік тому

    I love how the last shot is him purposely using a wide angle to show all of the game and UA-cam decided "You know what? That's an excellent place to put the recommendations for other videos!"

  • @Betito1171
    @Betito1171 Рік тому +2

    Ah yes a game where you play as the bad guys

  • @Campernicus
    @Campernicus Рік тому +2

    Unrelated to this video, does anyone remember the review where Tom made it look like he shoved another Tom out of a chair? He was wearing costumes I think.
    I remember laughing a lot at that but can't find it again.

  • @tahubob
    @tahubob Рік тому +1

    Great work as always Tom, I'd love to see you review Dungeon Degenerates, after your Turncoats review I know that tiny independent designers aren't off the table for a review anymore

  • @Eihcra96
    @Eihcra96 Рік тому +3

    Love the home-made Radiohead outro ❤️

    • @joaquinidoyaga9500
      @joaquinidoyaga9500 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/B2JHChJpG_A/v-deo.html&ab_channel=on4word

  • @JoesphGeorgeBlaise
    @JoesphGeorgeBlaise Рік тому +1

    Top work, Tom

  • @redgreen2453
    @redgreen2453 Рік тому +1

    I’ve actually never seen those spider web pictures before and I’m dying laughing imagining a team of scientists coldly and clinically administering tiny little does of lsd and marijuana to spiders.

  • @charlietwoteas3676
    @charlietwoteas3676 Рік тому +1

    Good review, told me exactly what I needed to know, which is that I really should play Food Chain Magnate. Played Pipeline for the first time last weekend, it really is great. I played Bus at a con last year having never heard of it before and if it was in print I would get a copy in a shot. Its like Power Grid had a baby with Village and Five Tribes....... kind of

  • @AdamR1977
    @AdamR1977 Рік тому +1

    Video made me want to wrap a wiimote strap around my wrist. 10/10, would watch again.

  • @RobHoward79
    @RobHoward79 Рік тому

    Another brilliant review about a game that doesn't seem to be available anywhere. At all. Hoorah.

  • @bubblepipemedia3414
    @bubblepipemedia3414 Рік тому +1

    I’m gonna be honest, I’m surprised you managed to license Nintendo music. And the choice is perfect.
    I feel like a lot of my games are falling into this niche niche category. Pipeline oddly broke my brain but I may have just been having an off day.

  • @johncorrigan268
    @johncorrigan268 Рік тому

    Reminds me of Dungeon Petz which I would consider a great alternative with similar aspects.
    You produce petz instead of cars. You have to meet their needs with an eye on what the customer wants. You have to manage the cages instead of factories. Simultaneously deciding what actions to take behind screens so no down time.

  • @Zcirovic
    @Zcirovic Рік тому +9

    One Splotter game that got mentioned in the video, yet that I feel doesn't get that much love, is The Great Zimbabwe. Apart from being one of the rare games that has remotely anything to do with African culture, I find it a really nice distilled version of what Splotter games are all about. It has a nice spatial puzzle, a nice connect-this-to-that puzzle, a nice economic system that incentivizes positive player interaction, a cool cost-benefit scoring system, a suprisingly lesser amount of components and clutter than other splotter games, arguably less rules overhead and takes less time to actually play compared to FCM or Roads&Boats.

    • @louism2970
      @louism2970 Рік тому +1

      Precisely! And since it's just been reprinted you actually have a chance of finding it if you want to buy it

    • @lassepoulsen7777
      @lassepoulsen7777 Рік тому +1

      And a Splotter that works brilliantly for 2p and has a fairly short playtime.
      Brilliant game. Although this MA in African Studies with a thesis about Zimbabwean might not be the most objective person to ask!

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 Рік тому +1

    That was interesting. Thank you.

  • @scyldscefing3913
    @scyldscefing3913 Рік тому +1

    Excellent! Thanks.

  • @jjoachimm
    @jjoachimm Рік тому +1

    W vid Tom great as always

  • @joaquinidoyaga9500
    @joaquinidoyaga9500 Рік тому +1

    yep, another one lost to the fantastic in rainbow roads. Great Review! You can love them or hate them, but splotter are truly unique

  • @captainron7120
    @captainron7120 Рік тому

    Tom, Fleet Foxes “Helplessness Blues” is my favorite album of all time. Great taste!

  • @roflcopterannoysme
    @roflcopterannoysme Рік тому +33

    Quinn - Biting critique and insightful honesty
    Matt - Surreal entertainment and abstract nuance
    Tom - Passionate appreciation and enthusiastic creativity
    Ava - Technical precision and friendly encouragement

    • @caitlinsticco8008
      @caitlinsticco8008 Рік тому +1

      This is a great summary of the reviewer flavors! Now we just need one of those buzzfeed quizzes for "Which SUSD gamer are you?" 😆
      I'm probably mostly am Ava. But I know I have my Tom moments, because my mom, who doesn't really like anything more complicated than Wingspan, listened to me ramble on about Arkham Horror Lcg and eventually asked if she would like it. I assured her she would not, and she agreed (too complicated and too tense), but said I made it sound so interesting that she just liked hearing me talk about it.

  • @MichaelDart
    @MichaelDart Рік тому

    Was totally expecting Tom was about to represent his personal fiddle to faff ratio on the market board.

  • @ronpetersen2317
    @ronpetersen2317 Рік тому +1

    This game is clearly for people that stare at spreadsheets and filled with public domain clip art and find joy from staring at said spreadsheet.

  • @jaxmixmusic
    @jaxmixmusic Рік тому

    glad to see some mario 64 weird fishes appreciation on my favorite channel

  • @Saturnine99
    @Saturnine99 Рік тому

    Tom, are you covering “Arpeggi” by Kelly Lee Owens with your end of video music there? 20:26

  • @Scio_
    @Scio_ Рік тому +1

    The physical prototype for a fantastic digital board game

  • @dickoon
    @dickoon Рік тому

    I will *always* crack up when you hit me with a burst of the Noel's House Party theme out of absolutely nowhere. (Hateful show, great tune.)

  • @john-qz3fu
    @john-qz3fu Рік тому

    Great review for Pipeline!

  • @justinpyle4151
    @justinpyle4151 Рік тому +2

    Great review, Tom! I appreciated the Pipeline shout out, as well. That game is such a brain workout, but I love every play of it.

  • @westinhess6864
    @westinhess6864 Рік тому +1

    Looks fun! Love the fleet foxes artwork too! Where did you get it Tom?

    • @heccdood8275
      @heccdood8275 Рік тому +1

      I have the same poster! It comes with the Helplessness Blues vinyl

  • @CaseyWilkesmusic
    @CaseyWilkesmusic 10 місяців тому

    As someone who routinely takes the last-place in Space truckers…I’m gonna lose this a lot lol

  • @arekkrolak6320
    @arekkrolak6320 Рік тому

    you will drink decaf for a while, then you will see you do not need to drink it anymore, as long as you won't start to drink coffee occasionally, then the need for decaf will be continuous :)

  • @SamiPaju
    @SamiPaju Рік тому +2

    Another home run from Tom :)

  • @reidfamilydroid
    @reidfamilydroid Рік тому +1

    I thought Tom was about to announce more Cool Ghosts... 🥰

  • @SilentFlatulence
    @SilentFlatulence Рік тому

    Shout out to the portrait of the reference pear on the wall at the end of the video

  • @mafiacat88
    @mafiacat88 Рік тому +1

    Hilariously I spent half this review thinking
    "this looks good, but...a little too much. I'll probably stick with pipeline"
    And then comes in the recommendation at the end.
    Long story short; pipeline's great

  • @matthews1507
    @matthews1507 Рік тому

    The conspicuous absence of Antiquity from the list of Splotters Tom has played is probably relevant to the expectations mismatch.

  • @bgsam8109
    @bgsam8109 Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @housecaldwell
    @housecaldwell Рік тому

    "So that's the first half of the game..." and that's when my brain exploded.

  • @tomswiftodst
    @tomswiftodst Рік тому

    This game IS for me! I look forward to trying it eventually! (They're really working tom to the bone out here, is everyone at SUSD ok?!?)

  • @StudentEternal
    @StudentEternal Рік тому

    I have never understood the love this crew has for food chain magnate, I have never seen a game alinate everyone at the table as strongly as food chain magnate did when it hit my table. If i asked my friends to play anouther round I would be out of friends.

  • @RulebooksForYou
    @RulebooksForYou Рік тому

    I put some hours into designing and writing an alternate rulebook - found you know where! 😊 But no mention about the rulebook at all?

  • @mariusmiliauskas8538
    @mariusmiliauskas8538 Рік тому

    I wish that shut up and sit down would review John Company Second edition, the most surprisingly refreshing niche game, that i wish got more exposure. I think that would make for a fun review.

  • @wsaTom
    @wsaTom Рік тому

    Everybody loves shopping on the Wii shopping channel

  • @jeffweber8244
    @jeffweber8244 Рік тому

    No love/mention for Splotter's The Great Zimbabwe? I love it.

  • @MrBongoking
    @MrBongoking Рік тому +9

    I love Tom’s reviews, but are the other members of team SUSD ok? They’ve gone very quiet

    • @Snakke40
      @Snakke40 Рік тому +1

      Rumour has it that Quinns has been kidnapped by ubisoft employees because of his work on PMG, Matt is too busy running his dad's coconut empire and Ava is just working behind the scenes.

  • @mrp4242
    @mrp4242 Рік тому

    10:58 Strong work on cutting out caffeine. Hope you continue to feel better.

  • @ShunyValdez
    @ShunyValdez Рік тому

    12:25 I didn't expected SUSD to do a component drop.