Great review, Guy 👍I've just downloaded the full manual for the FX DRS. I'm printing it off. I'm calling to my local gun shop tomorrow to collect my new 177 FX DRS. I can't wait 😄
What do you think of the gun, was thinking about buying one 😁 Trying to find out what bipod they are using, Does anyone know? The only problem I am having with the FX Dreamline gun is the magazine, the small screw in the back, has come off two times, not very good for a £1150 gun.
Unique, I mean sure, if you ignore the Artemis M30 that came first. Yes, its got more features, but it should at the price. Even the panthera shares design cues with the M18
@user-fz8fy4zl1cbut this is not about FAC guns is it? It’s about selling a cheap gun to the masses who by the way 99.999% don’t and will never own a FAC, however our club my BSA CLX Pro is every bit as accurate as the 110 if not better, and my R12 Pro is running as good as the H100,not better but as good at 50-100yards all day long,that been said I would love to own a H100T
I was interested in this in the Drs but the mags put me off , I ended up getting a Brocock, I’ll wait to see what people say after owning one for 12 months
This seems to me to esentially be a prototype (which Ive heard FX do - get the punters to put them through their paces before proper R&D & testing done in house). Lots of nice ideas here - and good looking gun, but definately too short in the shoulder end of the stock, too light, too (unnecessarillry) loud withoug a moderator, and as you said, rushed out to get the sales targets. I'm sticking with HW100 & S510T (which is regulated).. And how much extra for the wood?😄😄 Naa.
If I missed it I appologise but did you actually give the range, I was going to buy one but the accuracy seems appalling hence distance is crucial, terrible scope work around when you could have slipped the mount forward on the scope, to be honest boys nothing personell but the whole video was pretty shocking, so one of you saw the walnut version but did not tell us what it was like! Just repeating the same things over and over again does not a video make!
Would prefer the larger magazine anyway, with some higher mounts, no problem. A nice looking piece of kit, just deciding if I like it enough to sell my S510. Great video.
@@silverback710 you should never judge off 1st glance as the guy obviously isnt the best shot hes not bad but i wouldn't base my standards off him\them as a base point.
@libraz3384 whilst your right in an every day or regular setting these guys are an rfd and surely out of anyone you'd imagine with the reviews these guys do and on allot of them they're quite good shots..so in that respect you can judge it
FX trigger is the most stupid design trigger I've ever witnessed on airgun industry. No FX products can compete with German quality and engineering of HW100/110.
I got one on the way. FX did not invent the design. Snowpeak had a design like this years ago. FX just did it right and more modern. My K1 Huben will always be my favorite but this was purchased because i collect airguns. David
Really like the look if it... But i cannot help but think Accuracy wise and yes understandably your both not olympic shooters...but youll get similar to that with the vought or old artemis that has the same type of system l...seems like your paying for the badge with this one
Another brilliant video me And my sons absolutely love watching your uploads. And can I just say Ive bought a few items from and I can’t honestly say your the best gun shop I I’ve bought from. The customer service is outstanding
FX started with that term entry level. Well that gun would definitely boundary level wouldn’t it and you’re not saying that. But there is no entry level because you can buy a $200 demon chief and it will shoot Tyler groups at 100 yards than any FX gun.
Best in class? Well I love the gun on looks, BUT best in class? Better than the Dreamliner classic? Really? The dreamline easier to service,easier to alter the internals and change,better shot count,dosnt float around,and more importantly scope fixing is better and all for less than £100 difference, lastly if we compare your previous.22 guns videos I’m a bit disappointed in the grouping on this gun….i for one hope you DO Revisit this gun at a later date, I so want this gun but I’ve seen nothing that says this gun is better than the dreamline classic. Still let’s end this on a positive note,I enjoyed the show as always,thank you
Hmm not sure,I applaud different designs but apart from looks,which is subjective,I can’t see the benefit of having the cylinder around the barrel,it provides no sound suppression either.Maybe I’m missing something,but air rifle innovation seems to have dried up of late? What do others think?
I think air rifle innovation has dried up because they have no where to go. As long as we are sub 12 in the UK, nowhere to go, can’t innovate barrels, pellets or anything else. Gone as far as they can go with sub 12, only thing left to do is just keep launching limited editions, special editions, big air receivers, small air receivers. We can’t even fire a slug with sub 12.
@@Kralk.66I know what you mean, but we're not actually limited to sub 12 in the UK, although there's a very limited market for FAC air rifles. Question is, after nearly 250 years of development since Girandoni, how much further can we innovate? (Well, only HW seem to be able to make a robust magazine that doesn't look like it came in a Kinder egg, so plenty of scope there).
Hi I wanted to ask you a question, i have brought this gun and noticed when you tip it forwards and backwards while its not cocked, it appears something is moving around inside like some sort clanging noise, that said when you cock the rifle and then tip it forwards and backwards the moving part or clanging noise stops, What is noise/ moving part... Is the plenum?? Look forward to hearing from you. Thx
The noise is the free flouting hammer. FX do not pre-tension their hammer which helps reduce unnecessary air used during the firing cycle I.e.hammer bounce.
Phew!!!! I thiught my gun was faulty,,,, Gun is fab, although after zeroing it today after the 2nd fill up on the mag with pellets after 5 shot the mag got stuck and did not cycle through. I saw that the spring tension when rotating to load up with pellets was no movement hence it was not indexing, any ideas why, its a brand new gun and mini mag?
you made a comment entry law first thing there’s no such thing as an entry-level if there was that gun right there is entry-level $900 . which 600 more than It should cost.
Love how it looks but not sure about it’s accuracy FX tend to be overpriced and overrated seen better groups from guns half the price namely Kral and Reximex
Best in class? This rifle is not quite in the same class as anything else (for me it's a quality sub £1000 pest control tool). I like the look of this. Only trouble is, it's too long with a mod and nowhere to attach anything like slings or bipod. Shame.
Shit accuracy, I had the crown when it came out after all the hype and got rid after 2 weeks and bought a BSA R10 Mk2 that shot way better and pin point accuracy less money
@@brostelio No, have heard some FX out of the box have been dogs. Watch sub 12 airguner, he had a Panthera that was rubbish & shot all over the place. He done a lot of work on it to get it right, most of us can't do that.
@kevinparker461 That is of course absolutely unacceptable at the price range, particularly in a world where the humble S400 or HW100 can dominate in most endeavours. But my satisfaction with FX (other than a mk1 Widcat about 15 years ago which I couldn't get right) would cause me to caution against writing them off. They are generally extraordinary and in particular the Crown and Impact are capable of much more than the shooter is.
@@brostelio I not writing them off, i think they are one of the best air rifles available, better than the Daystate & i have 2 of them. My old BSA S10 & Steyr Hunting 5 are better than Daystate .. still, most are!
Mate, what length barrel, what grain pellets, what distance are you shooting...? Information poor. I wasted 22 minutes of my life trying to learn something. I learned nothing but your preferences. Derp
We do say in the introduction to the studio video that it is 25m measured so apologies for not stating this. As this is the standard power DRS is is the 500mm barrel as that's the only one available. I'm not sure if we mention it but we show the Air Arms Diabolo Field pellets which are 16gr
@rangecountryairguns5883 Mahalo for the information! Video is a fun watch. Been looking for all the bits and bobs of stats I can find as I am considering a purchase.
It's a lot of walnut and that price you quote is the Grade 2. So it's pretty premium. If u want the lesser grade walnut it's a like an extra 20%. Not a big deal really when it's only £730 to start with.
Why can’t you slide the back mount forward on the scope tube?
I shouldered this one at the shooting show and it just felt right. Very light. Its on my list.
Is it that difficult to move a scope mount?
Great review, Guy 👍I've just downloaded the full manual for the FX DRS. I'm printing it off. I'm calling to my local gun shop tomorrow to collect my new 177 FX DRS. I can't wait 😄
did it come with the mini mag ?
I’m not sure I will phone the gun shot when they open 9am I’ll let you know 👍 I might finish work early or go for the FX Saturday morning 😁
mine came with a mini mag, instructions and ... ... a sticker ;-)
@@troywales983
What do you think of the gun, was thinking about buying one 😁
Trying to find out what bipod they are using, Does anyone know?
The only problem I am having with the FX Dreamline gun is the magazine, the small screw in the back, has come off two times, not very good for a £1150 gun.
Unique, I mean sure, if you ignore the Artemis M30 that came first. Yes, its got more features, but it should at the price. Even the panthera shares design cues with the M18
It’s a no brainier pay the extra and get a HW 100 , If funds won’t allow get the HW110 👍
Have to say. After my latest review I’d have to agree
300 quid less for the FX!
HW 100 and 110 are too long, and not enough power. DRS for the win. Its a no brainer.
@user-fz8fy4zl1cbut this is not about FAC guns is it? It’s about selling a cheap gun to the masses who by the way 99.999% don’t and will never own a FAC, however our club my BSA CLX Pro is every bit as accurate as the 110 if not better, and my R12 Pro is running as good as the H100,not better but as good at 50-100yards all day long,that been said I would love to own a H100T
I do like the look of the walnut stock version of this. Will you be getting the pro version stock in as well? Any prices on that?
Got mine on Saturday the 9th, thanks to Leicestershire Airguns . & absolutely love it
Congrats! Caliber? Accurate?
. 177 and bloody accurate.
What's the accuracy like mate and what's the best pellet in your opinion group wise
@owenkearns7178 accuracy is as you'd expect from an FX , mine doesn't like slugs at all but upto now has a very slight preference for JSB 8.4 pellets.
I was interested in this in the Drs but the mags put me off , I ended up getting a Brocock, I’ll wait to see what people say after owning one for 12 months
I have had problems with the mag on the FX Dreamline, it's fallen apart two times and is not very well made. 😁
when will the cylinder need testing,in the event it fails what is the price to renew??
Is that those new floating air mounts?
hi artemis m30 is the same nice video keep up the good work ed
Hi great video, what make of bipod are you using?
Glad you like it... We're using the Vanguard Porta Aim in this video. You can see it here - rangeandcountry.co.uk/vanguard-porta-aim/
This seems to me to esentially be a prototype (which Ive heard FX do - get the punters to put them through their paces before proper R&D & testing done in house). Lots of nice ideas here - and good looking gun, but definately too short in the shoulder end of the stock, too light, too (unnecessarillry) loud withoug a moderator, and as you said, rushed out to get the sales targets. I'm sticking with HW100 & S510T (which is regulated).. And how much extra for the wood?😄😄 Naa.
Atrtemis m30 basically upgraded
LOL in a positive way .
If I missed it I appologise but did you actually give the range, I was going to buy one but the accuracy seems appalling hence distance is crucial, terrible scope work around when you could have slipped the mount forward on the scope, to be honest boys nothing personell but the whole video was pretty shocking, so one of you saw the walnut version but did not tell us what it was like! Just repeating the same things over and over again does not a video make!
Would prefer the larger magazine anyway, with some higher mounts, no problem. A nice looking piece of kit, just deciding if I like it enough to sell my S510. Great video.
It's a good looking rifke but wow debating getting rid of a 510 for one of these your mad that accuracy is poor
@@silverback710 you should never judge off 1st glance as the guy obviously isnt the best shot hes not bad but i wouldn't base my standards off him\them as a base point.
@libraz3384 whilst your right in an every day or regular setting these guys are an rfd and surely out of anyone you'd imagine with the reviews these guys do and on allot of them they're quite good shots..so in that respect you can judge it
How you two are still in business, I do not know. 🤷🏼
A fairer comparison might be the HW110, rather than HW100. Good review though!
FX trigger is the most stupid design trigger I've ever witnessed on airgun industry. No FX products can compete with German quality and engineering of HW100/110.
Great video as usual...I wonder if the wooden stock will make it a bit less flighty...
I got one on the way. FX did not invent the design. Snowpeak had a design like this years ago. FX just did it right and more modern. My K1 Huben will always be my favorite but this was purchased because i collect airguns.
David
Really like the look if it...
But i cannot help but think
Accuracy wise and yes understandably your both not olympic shooters...but youll get similar to that with the vought or old artemis that has the same type of system l...seems like your paying for the badge with this one
Another brilliant video me
And my sons absolutely love watching your uploads.
And can I just say Ive bought a few items from and I can’t honestly say your the best gun shop I I’ve bought from. The customer service is outstanding
Thanks for your kind words, they're much appreciated
I have seen one limted pcp almost same with this Drs fx.. ❤
FX started with that term entry level. Well that gun would definitely boundary level wouldn’t it and you’re not saying that. But there is no entry level because you can buy a $200 demon chief and it will shoot Tyler groups at 100 yards than any FX gun.
Best in class? Well I love the gun on looks, BUT best in class? Better than the Dreamliner classic? Really?
The dreamline easier to service,easier to alter the internals and change,better shot count,dosnt float around,and more importantly scope fixing is better and all for less than £100 difference, lastly if we compare your previous.22 guns videos I’m a bit disappointed in the grouping on this gun….i for one hope you DO Revisit this gun at a later date, I so want this gun but I’ve seen nothing that says this gun is better than the dreamline classic.
Still let’s end this on a positive note,I enjoyed the show as always,thank you
The first new one of the month just hope its worth it
All well and good until the accuracy test, terrible for the range. And also when you get to the range or permission and it doesn't work like all FX.
Hmm not sure,I applaud different designs but apart from looks,which is subjective,I can’t see the benefit of having the cylinder around the barrel,it provides no sound suppression either.Maybe I’m missing something,but air rifle innovation seems to have dried up of late?
What do others think?
I think air rifle innovation has dried up because they have no where to go. As long as we are sub 12 in the UK, nowhere to go, can’t innovate barrels, pellets or anything else.
Gone as far as they can go with sub 12, only thing left to do is just keep launching limited editions, special editions, big air receivers, small air receivers. We can’t even fire a slug with sub 12.
@@Kralk.66
Fair comment,but ‘no limit’ rifle innovation seem to have also mostly stopped.
@@Kralk.66I know what you mean, but we're not actually limited to sub 12 in the UK, although there's a very limited market for FAC air rifles.
Question is, after nearly 250 years of development since Girandoni, how much further can we innovate? (Well, only HW seem to be able to make a robust magazine that doesn't look like it came in a Kinder egg, so plenty of scope there).
It can't possibly change point of aim , surely people don't think the air pressure squashes the barrel
Hi
I wanted to ask you a question, i have brought this gun and noticed when you tip it forwards and backwards while its not cocked, it appears something is moving around inside like some sort clanging noise, that said when you cock the rifle and then tip it forwards and backwards the moving part or clanging noise stops,
What is noise/ moving part...
Is the plenum??
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thx
Other FX guns do this - something to do with hammer parts
The noise is the free flouting hammer. FX do not pre-tension their hammer which helps reduce unnecessary air used during the firing cycle I.e.hammer bounce.
Phew!!!! I thiught my gun was faulty,,,,
Gun is fab, although after zeroing it today after the 2nd fill up on the mag with pellets after 5 shot the mag got stuck and did not cycle through.
I saw that the spring tension when rotating to load up with pellets was no movement hence it was not indexing, any ideas why, its a brand new gun and mini mag?
Artemis M30 has been around at least 5yrs.....
Love the Rifle ,how do you manage to make sound so boring
you made a comment entry law first thing there’s no such thing as an entry-level if there was that gun right there is entry-level $900 . which 600 more than It should cost.
Love how it looks but not sure about it’s accuracy FX tend to be overpriced and overrated seen better groups from guns half the price namely Kral and Reximex
me to and i have 1 😃 i have a effecto zeon ..
coyote vs drs..who wins?
DRS!
JTS makes a better gun than that same style better stock stronger gun just very well-made. $549 three-year unlimited warranty
Best in class? This rifle is not quite in the same class as anything else (for me it's a quality sub £1000 pest control tool). I like the look of this. Only trouble is, it's too long with a mod and nowhere to attach anything like slings or bipod. Shame.
Shit accuracy, I had the crown when it came out after all the hype and got rid after 2 weeks and bought a BSA R10 Mk2 that shot way better and pin point accuracy less money
Yeah, ok, sure
@@brostelio No, have heard some FX out of the box have been dogs. Watch sub 12 airguner, he had a Panthera that was rubbish & shot all over the place. He done a lot of work on it to get it right, most of us can't do that.
@kevinparker461 That is of course absolutely unacceptable at the price range, particularly in a world where the humble S400 or HW100 can dominate in most endeavours. But my satisfaction with FX (other than a mk1 Widcat about 15 years ago which I couldn't get right) would cause me to caution against writing them off. They are generally extraordinary and in particular the Crown and Impact are capable of much more than the shooter is.
@@brostelio I not writing them off, i think they are one of the best air rifles available, better than the Daystate & i have 2 of them. My old BSA S10 & Steyr Hunting 5 are better than Daystate .. still, most are!
6 torx screws....6. That's all you had to loosen and slide forward. 😂😂😂
Shot count uk is .23..is 160....177. Around 120..according to fx
Nice looking hunting gun, seems FX rushed it out the door though.
I've got a shotgun that prints better than that gun, for an FX that's rubbish.
Mate, what length barrel, what grain pellets, what distance are you shooting...?
Information poor.
I wasted 22 minutes of my life trying to learn something.
I learned nothing but your preferences.
Derp
We do say in the introduction to the studio video that it is 25m measured so apologies for not stating this. As this is the standard power DRS is is the 500mm barrel as that's the only one available. I'm not sure if we mention it but we show the Air Arms Diabolo Field pellets which are 16gr
@rangecountryairguns5883
Mahalo for the information!
Video is a fun watch. Been looking for all the bits and bobs of stats I can find as I am considering a purchase.
I thought the .22 had 14 rounds?
£374 extra for walnut stock version,get real.
Get real! Its actually £374 LESS, for the synthetic version!
It's a £149 extra for the first walnut version .
It's a lot of walnut and that price you quote is the Grade 2. So it's pretty premium. If u want the lesser grade walnut it's a like an extra 20%. Not a big deal really when it's only £730 to start with.
Still a minelli stock whichever walnut
Looks like pellets not suiting the barrel
Nothing new really.....
Don't buy it then if thats what u look for 👍🏾
Really? Its a new FX product, utilizing NEW technology!
@@M4rkmcc21you bought one didn't ya
@silverback710 not yet. Tempted at its price. Would be the cheapest rifle in my collection so it's an attractive addition.
@@M4rkmcc21remington vought does the same thing 300 cheaper
Not another FX….🙄
Not impressed tbo certainly for the money, recon the remington one is better and half the cost.
Just looks so bland and ordinary. BRK Ghosts rule. 👻 😂😂
No, Fx Impact do!