Thank you, Paul. What a great informative view from someone with a lifetime in air rifles, and a genuine passion for air rifles that goes back to the BSA Airsporter days, and when the Weihrauch HW77 was the field target spring air rifle to own and use. I've found this a super view and didn't want it to end. A super interesting watch, thank you.
I’m so glad you picked the steyr rifles because I have both the hunter 5 a scout and the pro x scout and would never sell them for any other make . I only bought these on the recommendation in your videos I have been watching for years. I also have a red laminate Daystate Red Wolf again because of your reviews 😂😂 . In all you’ve cost me a lot of money in the last five years but that won’t stop me watching your videos 👍. So glad I came across your channel, keep up the good work . I own the first official forest laminate stock from steyr I bought in 2019 my friend bought it from the factory in Austria, they were prototypes and steyr decided to stick with the wooden stocks so before they were binned my friend asked if he could buy one and they agreed . So I am now the proud owner of the number one official Steyr first forest green laminate stock ever made ❤
I've bought a lot of cheap Chinese and Turkish guns. As you said the biggest issue is finishing, the first thing I generally do is strip them apart and start deburring and polishing the internals. Makes them shoot like much more expensive guns but you have to be careful, often they have been regulated with all that friction taken into account. Once you polish the hammer, action tube, spring ends they tends to shoot a fair bit hotter so that will have to be compensated for by turning down the reg or shortening the hammer spring. You are totally right about the grease too, barrels are often caked in transport grease which often take a lot of effort to clean out. Last point cheap PCPs often come with crap or damaged O-rings. That lack of finishing tears them up on assembly. Get some good o-ring kits and swap them out once you have cleaned everything out. Helps consistency no end.
Hi I do enjoy your videos . A quick question I have the Hunting5 A and thinking about the Pro X if you could only have one of them what one would it be ?. Thanks and keep up the good work.
@nickgilchrist9372 Both are superb, I personally prefer the looks of the 5A scout but the 10 shot mag on the Pro X is superb fun to shoot . It's also beautifully built and pin point accurate so I guess it's just personal choice .
my first air gun was a GAMO MAGNUM2000 40 yr ago i fitted an ox main spring in it i never missed much shot my first rabbit with it, with a 4x20 scope on it too, been hooked ever since........we also carried a car battery and head lamp for lamping lol how things have changed. love your vid keep them coming
I use a Reximex Pretensis and have never had a problem it or with the mags and it is very accurate, quite a few members down my club seem to have had problems with the BSA mags though!!
I have the LGU Master Pro .177, its beautifully made and extremely accurate. But it's heavy and fiddly to use, just like the TX200/HW97 are aswell I expect. I think Walther/Umarex lost money on the LGV and LGU, they were equivalent to £600 rifles but closer to £300 brand new. I actually prefer using my Gamo CFX .22. The BSA rotating breech and light weight is how wished the LGU was setup. Accurate aswell, despite everyone hating the Gamo trigger I never had any issue with it.
Got an lgv and it is a very high quility rifle. Very solid. However the trigger had so much stage on it. I had to insert a thingy infront of the trigger very nice trigger now. Fore sight was silly as well needed filing.
Yes, your vast experience and wisdom sounds solid indeed. HW's, TX's and early Dianas for springers are standouts. My PCP journey is near end and I'm between the Leshiy Classic and the Leshiy 2. HWs and Air Arms, traditional and proven but I was not interested in the traditional mauser or hunting rifles. Really into compacts. I've always loved semi-auto/indexing, likely will lean towards the Leshiy 2. Oh, I had a Steyr's in powder burners, they are gems. I absolutely considered the Steyr but EDgun compactness got me good.
I have an L2 ,If you get one get to the range buy the cheapest pellets you can get Excite ECON II are quite cheap and quite accurate ,Fire 1000s of them though it and i mean 1000s and that will iron out any faults it may have ,Buy a Spares kit and an O ring kit ,Get the size of the O ring for the EAR and they go if you adjust it quite often ,If you are sub 12 just put 2mm jets in it as you get a bigger shot count and most of all do not be afraid to strip it down ,Iv fixed mine at the range a couple of times ,That's the beauty of them they are so easy to fix , Iv had mine in Rivers and everything ,The O ring in the EAR has burst a couple of times and the spring in the Indexing tower has broke and iv fired 1000s of pellets and slugs through it ,Both a 5 minute fix
Ive had the diana 52 firebird , tuned / bsa supersport / & superstar /HW. 80 and HW77 . / INNOVA multipump.....all springers FAC. . and picked up a used cometa fenix 400. for £100 . .and suprisingly , got lucky , hit on a good one....i adjusted ,stock , added a muzzle weight ....great gun....dont remember them all 😮
My first rifle was a Remington Express XP budget in .22 including scope. It never impressed me to be honest then found out there were 6 work colleagues in to air rifles. They mentioned PCP's and mentioned the HW100 so went on the hunt for one. I dropped on a HW100 - KT in .177 second hand for about £500 and was immaculate. I then bought a brand new Air - Arms S410 - TDR in .177 and to be honest i rarely use. The next airgun which was recommended was a TX200 .177 in walnut which got me addicted to springers. I then bought the HW97 in blue laminate as i liked the aesthetics of the underlever. I had a go with a friends Walther LGV at the range and agree with you that they're a top gun and was saddened to hear that they were discontinued as they're a top quality rifle. The experience with the LGV brought on a liking for a decent quality break barrel and luckily enough another friend was selling his HW98 so bought that approximately 3 weeks ago. It's an old HW98 with the shrouded barrel "No UNF" and not sure what scope to buy for it as yet as i shoot targets at 50 yards
I have a Walther Reign M2 and a HW100BP both excellent hunters, the HW100 BP is just wow...I can take a squirrel at 50 yards off the hand at a 60 degree tilt almost every time, granted I have the aid of a Zulus scope
Agree entirely, you are spot on, however as I know you are a HW fan by watching your vids surprised to see you didn't mention the 98 a gun promoted by HW for accuracy?
Best pcp I've had and still have it is the AGT vixen, the worst pcp has to be the FX maverick complete garbage, the best springer hw95 ,the worst wasn't a springer but gas ram was a diana ntec.
Quite agree FX and the newer daystate and Eastern Europe design for higher power and i don't think sub 12ft are given much though it's all about making £££££,if you are lucky and get a good FX or daystate well done, but if you have problems it can be stressful,i could write a list of issues,but then you get called a troll by TB , but they never answer your letters enjoyed your video
The diana rifles are well engineered and built, but often not at the best out of the box. Given proper lubrication and break in, they can be superb. That is a general statement-some Dianas are excellent from the first shot.
I used to own a HW77 in .22 many years ago , amazing rifle. Had to sell it due to family and financial commitments. So now would like to get back into the sport. Considering a Diana model 360 or 34 ems , not sure of the calibre to choose?
@@capricorn1765 I prefer the .177, but no sacrifice either way. I like the higher speed and flatter trajectory. My 34 ems was quite buzzy, but extremely accurate.
My first pcp was also an s200, great rifle! Lent it to a “mate” he split with his mrs an took it with him… needless to say that was the last time I ever lent one of my rifles out ( except to my brother)
Get a Leshiy 2 and turn the barrel 5 mm until it gets accurate ,Iv seen them not hit the target until they are adjusted ,Its all about the fine tuning but TBH you do get bad ones ,It's as if it's just a box of bits put together ,Which is what the are it takes 10 mins to take a 177 to .30 which is impossible in other guns
I don't bother with springers these days although I kept my AA pro sport only because people often say they regretted selling there's but my two favorite pcp's are Brocock compatto (pre reg) and FX impact m3 the worst was a hatsan gladius all sub 12.
Thank you, Paul. What a great informative view from someone with a lifetime in air rifles, and a genuine passion for air rifles that goes back to the BSA Airsporter days, and when the Weihrauch HW77 was the field target spring air rifle to own and use. I've found this a super view and didn't want it to end. A super interesting watch, thank you.
@@ianwoods1384 Thankyou very much
I’m so glad you picked the steyr rifles because I have both the hunter 5 a scout and the pro x scout and would never sell them for any other make . I only bought these on the recommendation in your videos I have been watching for years. I also have a red laminate Daystate Red Wolf again because of your reviews 😂😂 . In all you’ve cost me a lot of money in the last five years but that won’t stop me watching your videos 👍. So glad I came across your channel, keep up the good work . I own the first official forest laminate stock from steyr I bought in 2019 my friend bought it from the factory in Austria, they were prototypes and steyr decided to stick with the wooden stocks so before they were binned my friend asked if he could buy one and they agreed . So I am now the proud owner of the number one official Steyr first forest green laminate stock ever made ❤
@michelmetcalf5708 That's great the very first prototype. I think it sets them off lovely
I really value your opinions, thank you. I'm on the look out for a Walther LGV and a Webley Mk3 for the collection now.
I've bought a lot of cheap Chinese and Turkish guns. As you said the biggest issue is finishing, the first thing I generally do is strip them apart and start deburring and polishing the internals. Makes them shoot like much more expensive guns but you have to be careful, often they have been regulated with all that friction taken into account. Once you polish the hammer, action tube, spring ends they tends to shoot a fair bit hotter so that will have to be compensated for by turning down the reg or shortening the hammer spring. You are totally right about the grease too, barrels are often caked in transport grease which often take a lot of effort to clean out.
Last point cheap PCPs often come with crap or damaged O-rings. That lack of finishing tears them up on assembly.
Get some good o-ring kits and swap them out once you have cleaned everything out. Helps consistency no end.
Don’t forget the 57, lovely light weight under leaver 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@ianbath4776 Never had one but always fancied one
What a superb video... Many thanks :)
Hi I do enjoy your videos . A quick question I have the Hunting5 A and thinking about the Pro X if you could only have one of them what one would it be ?.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
@nickgilchrist9372 Both are superb, I personally prefer the looks of the 5A scout but the 10 shot mag on the Pro X is superb fun to shoot . It's also beautifully built and pin point accurate so I guess it's just personal choice .
my first air gun was a GAMO MAGNUM2000 40 yr ago i fitted an ox main spring in it i never missed much shot my first rabbit with it, with a 4x20 scope on it too, been hooked ever since........we also carried a car battery and head lamp for lamping lol how things have changed. love your vid keep them coming
I use a Reximex Pretensis and have never had a problem it or with the mags and it is very accurate, quite a few members down my club seem to have had problems with the BSA mags though!!
Love my Pretensis, I could not agree more, fantastic rifle
I have the LGU Master Pro .177, its beautifully made and extremely accurate. But it's heavy and fiddly to use, just like the TX200/HW97 are aswell I expect.
I think Walther/Umarex lost money on the LGV and LGU, they were equivalent to £600 rifles but closer to £300 brand new.
I actually prefer using my Gamo CFX .22. The BSA rotating breech and light weight is how wished the LGU was setup. Accurate aswell, despite everyone hating the Gamo trigger I never had any issue with it.
Got an lgv and it is a very high quility rifle. Very solid. However the trigger had so much stage on it. I had to insert a thingy infront of the trigger very nice trigger now. Fore sight was silly as well needed filing.
Great advice Sir - thank you.
Yes, your vast experience and wisdom sounds solid indeed. HW's, TX's and early Dianas for springers are standouts. My PCP journey is near end and I'm between the Leshiy Classic and the Leshiy 2. HWs and Air Arms, traditional and proven but I was not interested in the traditional mauser or hunting rifles. Really into compacts. I've always loved semi-auto/indexing, likely will lean towards the Leshiy 2. Oh, I had a Steyr's in powder burners, they are gems. I absolutely considered the Steyr but EDgun compactness got me good.
I have an L2 ,If you get one get to the range buy the cheapest pellets you can get Excite ECON II are quite cheap and quite accurate ,Fire 1000s of them though it and i mean 1000s and that will iron out any faults it may have ,Buy a Spares kit and an O ring kit ,Get the size of the O ring for the EAR and they go if you adjust it quite often ,If you are sub 12 just put 2mm jets in it as you get a bigger shot count and most of all do not be afraid to strip it down ,Iv fixed mine at the range a couple of times ,That's the beauty of them they are so easy to fix , Iv had mine in Rivers and everything ,The O ring in the EAR has burst a couple of times and the spring in the Indexing tower has broke and iv fired 1000s of pellets and slugs through it ,Both a 5 minute fix
Journey ended with the Leshiy 2
Best airguns I have ever had have been older loved my fx2000 and currently have a theoben rapid mk2. My favourite springer was the hw97
I personally find the springers from the 80s were better quality than the majority of the stuff we have now a days😊
Ive had the diana 52 firebird , tuned / bsa supersport / & superstar /HW. 80 and HW77 . / INNOVA multipump.....all springers FAC. . and picked up a used cometa fenix 400. for £100 . .and suprisingly , got lucky , hit on a good one....i adjusted ,stock , added a muzzle weight ....great gun....dont remember them all 😮
My first rifle was a Remington Express XP budget in .22 including scope. It never impressed me to be honest then found out there were 6 work colleagues in to air rifles. They mentioned PCP's and mentioned the HW100 so went on the hunt for one. I dropped on a HW100 - KT in .177 second hand for about £500 and was immaculate. I then bought a brand new Air - Arms S410 - TDR in .177 and to be honest i rarely use. The next airgun which was recommended was a TX200 .177 in walnut which got me addicted to springers. I then bought the HW97 in blue laminate as i liked the aesthetics of the underlever. I had a go with a friends Walther LGV at the range and agree with you that they're a top gun and was saddened to hear that they were discontinued as they're a top quality rifle. The experience with the LGV brought on a liking for a decent quality break barrel and luckily enough another friend was selling his HW98 so bought that approximately 3 weeks ago. It's an old HW98 with the shrouded barrel "No UNF" and not sure what scope to buy for it as yet as i shoot targets at 50 yards
I have a Walther Reign M2 and a HW100BP both excellent hunters, the HW100 BP is just wow...I can take a squirrel at 50 yards off the hand at a 60 degree tilt almost every time, granted I have the aid of a Zulus scope
Agree entirely, you are spot on, however as I know you are a HW fan by watching your vids surprised to see you didn't mention the 98 a gun promoted by HW for accuracy?
@@davidoldboy5425 Never owned a 98 .....yet
@@fieldsportcymru4636 They've spoilt the gun for me with that screw off section of barrel.
Best pcp I've had and still have it is the AGT vixen, the worst pcp has to be the FX maverick complete garbage, the best springer hw95 ,the worst wasn't a springer but gas ram was a diana ntec.
Quite agree FX and the newer daystate and Eastern Europe design for higher power and i don't think sub 12ft are given much though it's all about making £££££,if you are lucky and get a good FX or daystate well done, but if you have problems it can be stressful,i could write a list of issues,but then you get called a troll by TB , but they never answer your letters enjoyed your video
Whats your opinion on the Diana range , especially the ones made in Germany?
@capricorn1765 lovely ive had several if its bench rest or target shooting the Air king I had was easily the most accurate springer ive ever shot
The diana rifles are well engineered and built, but often not at the best out of the box. Given proper lubrication and break in, they can be superb. That is a general statement-some Dianas are excellent from the first shot.
I used to own a HW77 in .22 many years ago , amazing rifle. Had to sell it due to family and financial commitments. So now would like to get back into the sport. Considering a Diana model 360 or 34 ems , not sure of the calibre to choose?
@@capricorn1765 I prefer the .177, but no sacrifice either way. I like the higher speed and flatter trajectory. My 34 ems was quite buzzy, but extremely accurate.
Ill stick with my 20+ year old AA s410 with Simmonds White tail 1.5 - 5 x20 scope No issues so far.
Air-Arms HFT 500 unbeatable
Steye r supposedly bringing out a assault type.based on a pro x..scout 5. Etc
@roberthowe2910 Yes ive seen some photos on FB but not seen anything concrete yet .
@@fieldsportcymru4636 yer it's all gone quite for whatever reason...
BSA cadet in .177 was my favorite back in the day.
I've still got a cracking Cadet Major
@@fieldsportcymru4636 I bet it is worth a fortune today.
Ive got a 22 year old daystate harrier x . Never misses a shot
Had one of them in 177tack driver at 50 yard😉
My first pcp was also an s200, great rifle! Lent it to a “mate” he split with his mrs an took it with him… needless to say that was the last time I ever lent one of my rifles out ( except to my brother)
Very happy with my mod 75. I can spend hours just holding it never mind the shooting ,which is pin point.
Get a Leshiy 2 and turn the barrel 5 mm until it gets accurate ,Iv seen them not hit the target until they are adjusted ,Its all about the fine tuning but TBH you do get bad ones ,It's as if it's just a box of bits put together ,Which is what the are it takes 10 mins to take a 177 to .30 which is impossible in other guns
You forgot to mention the air Arms pro elite best spring air rifle ever made.
@nicholasrichards2402 Never had one ,heard they were good at full power but not too smooth sub 12
Great video. I have to agree with you on the LGV. Both Steyrs sound like fantastic rifles. Thank you.
My worst was a Diana 22😢
Nice!
Those LGV's were brilliant, rock solid barrel lock up :)
Yes, accuracy on these is stunning. Even on the more modern LGV Challenger.
Today I shoot the Crosman shockwave and the Artemis CP-1 and 2 target pistols. Budget guns yes but I like them.
Just about right.Except one Which you left out.The AGT Vulcan 2 Good engineering .The magazine Great.
The whole AGT range tend to be good ,ive had 2 Uragans long and carbine and a vixen .
@@fieldsportcymru4636 Done the rounds with a lot .settled with the S410 kt weihrach .s200. and the vulcan2 .at last, .keep it up.
The worst I have had was the .22 Relum underlever.
My first "real" air rifle ... I loved that thing !
@@steveb890 Horrible big heavy thing and it miss fired if you knocked the tap
They were crap lol 😂
@@markrhodes5474 I never said it was good , but still loved it !
Any thoughts on the predecessor of the LGV, the LG55? Saw one for 175 euro and thinking about buying it. Cheers.
I have never had a PCP.
Me too, and no intention to
Crosman pump, Sheridan pump, Bsa Airsporter, all a very long time ago but absolute 💩.
I have a crosman vantage .22 gas ram , it's about 17fpe and looks fine, was about £70 . But you're definitely right about the Webley mk3's
I bet it is worth a fortune today! The BSA Cadet.
Not really still don't fetch much
I don't bother with springers these days although I kept my AA pro sport only because people often say they regretted selling there's but my two favorite pcp's are Brocock compatto (pre reg) and FX impact m3 the worst was a hatsan gladius all sub 12.
My best HW 90 gasram
Worst airarms S200 mk1
It’s a pr900 not pr 9000