Peak Design vs. Quadlock Motorcycle Phone Mount - Triumph Thruxton R
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2022
- Swapped my Quadlock for a Peak Design phone mount on my TTR. Both are great mounts, but I am liking Peak's slimmer profile with the dampener.
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Tim, thank you for this awesome video! I'm the engineer at Peak Design that designed this mount and the vibration dampener. I can't remember if we met or not at the Handbuilt Motorcycle Show where you got this, but, thanks for giving this a great honest review! I'm so happy you're enjoying it!
Are there plans for a wireless charging mount similar to quadlocks?
Do you guys make any universal waterproof case?
@@menzelfineart +1 to this question. It's the only reason I'm still using QuadLock. Having wireless charging is a nice feature
@@FadilKarim and Menzel: 😉
@@Whatreally123 No, we don't... most phones are waterproof now, so there's no need for a waterproof case for the vast majority of consumers.
Peak needs to come out with a Charging Motorcycle mount! That would be awesome and thus not require having to plug a cable into the iPhone!
Thank you, the road test was what I was interested to see. Good to know that visibility holds up over the bumps at least as well as QL. From the consumer standpoint It's always good to see competition come in, looks like Peak Design have a winner.
I feel like an idiot when I’m remounting my phone onto the quadlock at the gas station as everyone drools over my streetfighter v4. Pretty sure some people are watching me thinking geeez is that guy safe to ride that thing. He can’t even get his phone in the mount
Hahahaha
Quad Lock is great, but man, that Peak Design one is like black magic.
Love your bike! I have the same one lol. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks 🙏!
Thank you for this video. I already have the PD case, and JUST ordered a QL setup (which I didn’t want to do because I’d have to change cases) because I went with the Ram X mount for ease of use but the net strap broke as soon as I touched it, that paired with their ridiculous response to the vibration issues was the end for me. I had no idea the PD mount had any anti vibration in it! Now I need to return my QL setup😂🤙🏽
I could never get behind those Ram straps. Glad I could help!
There is Peak Design RAM 1" Ball mount if needed.
Yeah, give our 1" Ball Adapter a try! It'll plug right onto the end of your RAM arm and replace the X-Grip mount with our isolated mount!
is that a peak phone case or can we use our own case ??????
@@ginoasci2876you can use your own case but you have to attach their adapter on the back of it. I think it's $30.
Quadlock and Peak design should make a universal waterproof case. I'm a motorcycle traveller and these cases leave the phone exposed to the elements. A case like the Ultimate Add-ons with the peak design locking mechanism will be sweet
Aren't most phones water resistant these days?
@@tims-garage nope. only the top end models of each company. still if one is on a long motorcycle journey and needs to charge the phone and its raining, these open cases will not provide any protection. these are good for casual riding imo.
@@Whatreally123 quadlock had a phone poncho that slides on over the phone that I got and for $5 you can't really beat it
@@Whatreally123 idk, a zip lock bag and some rubber bands are cheap, easy solution.
Do the magnets interfere with the compass of the phone. Cause maps are the main reason to mount the phone!
Is there shorter stems for the stem mount?
Hi! Is it possible to mount the phone in both landscape and portrait without changing/rotating the base mount? Does it click-on in all four directions?
Yes and yes!
Tim you could’ve slid your handle bar tube out a little. You would of course had to adjust both sides.
I noticed Peak also has a stem mount for motorcycles. You might need a different nut, though. My bars have zero space for anything to clamp on, so I was thinking about the center mount option.
Totally a great option too!
I have a bmw s1000rr so I'm thinking PD Stem Mount or Quadlock stem Mount. Which one?
@MarkTomeh I have been enjoying the Peak Design for a couple of months. The magnetic mount is what sold me. Antivibe is great and really solid build quality. The phone case also connects flawlessly to other maglok chargers and has a nice denim texture. The stem mount is really simple and robust with rubber dampening.
Riding on an aftermarket accessory bar on my Tiger 1200 GT Pro is a Quadlock with dampener, on U.K. roads (awful state of disrepair) it can become virtually unreadable so much so that I have stick the bike into cruise control and steady the phone with my throttle hand to read the bloody map. Question is does this system move around any less🤔, very nice Thruxton by the way (they’re going to stop making them after this latest iteration)…….
It seems to be a little more stable than QL, but it does have movement. I haven't had trouble reading it. I'm gonna miss the thruxton!
@@tims-garage Thanks 👍
How are you feeling about the mount now that you had it for some time? I'm between this and the new Mous motorcycle mount but there's no reviews anywhere for that thing.
Love it! Especially now that I have the actual PD case. Would never switch back.
@@tims-garage Is the clip that holds the phone in place also metal?
@@drumma5409 yes
Hi Tim, thank you very much for your video as I was desperately looking for some information about the dampener itself compared to the Quad Lock one. Could you please tell more in detail what the Peak Design guys said about it when you met them? How exactly should it be better vs the Quad Lock one? Did they say something about their dampening technology? QL provides a lot of information about their development and technology process but PD unfortunately not which makes me very hesitant to buying one. Thanks a lot!
Honestly, I wouldn't say that the PD one is any better than the QL one. It's just that PD designed theirs better because they came after QL. They had the second mover advantage that allow them to make a more slim line design. As far as the functionality on the dampener itself, I would say it's equal. I do like the magnetic clip-in and out on the PD one though. I think both are very great phone mounts.
@@tims-garage I see the PD one better in may aspects for me, just lack more detailed information about the vibration dampener as it is in the end the most important thing for me. Protecting my phone from vibrations, especially when riding off road. I'll try to reach PD directly if they can provide more information. Thanks for your reply and have a nice day!
I'm not sure if a non backer can read the updates, but during Peak Designs Kickstarter for Mobile they put out tons of interesting information on the development process. So maybe look for their project page to check. I backed the project based on the quality of their camera gear I already owned, and honestly I think that, although a bit expensive, this is one of the best systems out there. And they are still adding to the lineup.
@@vasekdinha Hey Viet! I'm the engineer at PD that designed this mount and the vibration dampener integrated into it. Quadlock makes a fine dampener but it had three major flaws that I wanted to avoid in my development: It's huge, it's ugly, and it's REALLY loose right around the neutral balance point of the phone, which leads to a lot of "flopping about" while you're riding over even very smooth roads. If I had to summarize the differences between the PD dampener and the Quadlock dampener, I would say the main difference is that the PD dampener solves those 3 problems.
Without going into too much nerdy detail or giving away all our secret sauce, we were able to achieve that via a few key ingredients:
1) Integrating the dampener into the mount instead of making it a separate add on (gives us the ability to make it smaller, sleeker, and prettier)
2) Using premium materials - anodized aluminum vs. injection molded plastic (I hate plastic on my moto and avoid it unless absolutely necessary)
3) I had absolutely nothing else to do for 2 years of pandemic lockdown other than work on this dampener development (ok a bit of a joke, but you get the point... pouring a ton of energy into this thing kept me sane)
We tested the snot out of this thing - a ton of miles by yours truly to get through 17 initial prototype designs, then instrumented lab testing at a professional test lab, then 135,000 miles traveled by 79 beta testers around the world (hello to any of y'all that read this!!). We scaled the testing as the development progressed. I'm happy to say that it's performing EXTREMELY well out in the wild.
Hope this helps - feel free to ask my any questions!
Here's our website page about the development and testing process: support.peakdesign.com/hc/en-us/articles/4425117728148-Vibration-Protection-with-Peak-Design-Motorcycle-Mounts
@@maxm50 Hi Max! First, thank you for your reply which I truly appreciate. However, since my first comment here, I have bought and still own a Motorcycle Stem Mount and also a 1" Ball Adapter which got released like 2 weeks after my Stem Mount's purchase (so unlucky lol). Back in Czech Republic where I am from I used the Stem Mount on my 2001 Suzuki GFS 600. When turning on the camera on my iPhone 12 Pro while riding my motorcycle, I could clearly see that the footage is not stable at all and the iPhone's camera system is trying to balance the vibrations. The footage got almost no vibrations on wide lens however it did have mid vibrations on regular lens and a looot of vibrations on tele photo lens. When I reached my friend who uses a Quad lock system, he didn't have any visible vibrations while riding his motorcycle like I had.
Now I'm in Vietnam, traveling for next few months and using the 1" Ball Adapter. Honestly, the vibrations are even worse compare to the Stem Mount. Even on iPhone's wide lens while riding off road I have visible vibrations already and overall I'm just not confident enough that it is safe to use my iPhone with this PD system. Every ride I'm just frightened that my camera system will got broken and use the holder only when really needed... I'm a professional traveller and content creator so to protect my phone is essential. I've been using PD products for years for my Canon DSLR camera systems but this seems to be more tricky this time.
I've uploaded some test videos from yesterday here so you can check: drive.google.com/drive/folders/17KGECl4i010rK6mTJwReO-JuOx6b8rXz?usp=sharing
Could you please let me know your opinion on this, Max? Thanks!
Peak design all day. I use the universal adapter with an otterbox case, so I know I still have a great case on my phone.
After having experience with both, which do you prefer overall?
I'd say peak, it's a little easier to use overall and more sleak
Sleek design 😎
You should do an update. Quadlock has a pro version now which is all metal.
Oh does it? Nice. If they send me one I'll do an update, but I'm not gonna buy one... ☺️
I have a Thruxton R with the fairing. Would that handlebar mount work with mine?
Not sure. Guess you gotta try and see if it works. You may need a stem mount...
@@tims-garage thanks
So I can keep my own case with the peakdesign? Thats amazing.
Yep, if you use the sticker. I ended up getting a PD case for my phone which I like a lot. Great for everyday use.
I will have to see a review of this after some tough use. I can't tell if I'm just being biased because I love my quad lock mount with the dampner and wireless charger so much. I don't find it difficult to take my quad lock on and off at all.
I was that way too, and honestly, if I had the wireless charger, I probably wouldn't have switched. However, the QL with that dampener and the charger sticks up about a mile off the handlebars.
@@tims-garage you can stick the QL even out more from the handlebars no?xd
@@mage1915 a bit, it all about where you angle the arm
is that a peak phone case or can we use our own case ??????
I found that peak design's universal adapter lowered the accuracy of my Samsung Galaxy s21's GPS.
How does that happen?
1 year later - still going strong?
Absolutely! No issues, especially now that I got the actual PD case
what if you drive fast on a naked bike with it will it blow off
False
@@tims-garage the stick on thingy has me very concerned
@@tims-garage i go like 117 on an mt09 and i took off my puig screen because i do not like alien queen
Use the actual case version. I have since upgraded to a case for my Pixel 6
@@tims-garage i want to but i have a moto g power 2022 i been having trouble finding quadlock and peak cases. companies dont seem to like motorola. im almost considering a new phone but i have to pay out my old one and then they want me to activate fee the new one. its aids. do you happen to know what the handle bar diameter of a 2022 mt09 is. i been trying to google search that for a couple days now. (currently)
when you drop your phone in a quadlock it shatters your phone inside. quad lock doesnt protect your phone it just locks it to your bike,
is that a peak phone case or can we use our own case ??????
You need a built in case one, the glue-on one is ok in most states but will fail in the desert summer of south west..... * Cali, Nevada, Arizona, NM.
Glue on?
@@tims-garage it’s 3M right?
@@TerryFT86 oh! That case mount. I have since purchased a new phone and am using the full case with the mount. Also I live in TX. Plenty hot here too!
They don't have dampeners. If they did, your phone would get wet. They have dampers.
I wouldn't trust the magnet after 100mph . I lost my iPhone 12 on my Thruxton last year was on Ram x mount about 120mph and the phone fly away to corn fields and never recovered . Since this incident using the QL on my all bikes with more speeds and no problem so far but I dont think magnet will hold with high speeds.
I thought the same thing, but as I explained in the video, it used a locking mechanism and a magnet, not just a magnet. So it CAN be trusted.
In Peaks video for their bicycle mount (which is the same thing but without vibration damper) they lifted the entire bike into the air by the attached phone. It's a good system
Tim is right in his reply - the magnets only serve to attract your phone onto the mount until the metal claws latch it into place. All of the retention of the phone once mounted is taken care of by the claws, not the magnets.
I went over 200kmh many times and nothing happened with the ram x. But my camera got damaged twice cuz it has no vibration dampener so I am going to change it.
is that a peak phone case or can we use our own case ??????
I want some reviews from someone who isn't making money off the product.
i dont know what your definition of bulky is but that quad lock setup aint it chief
Compared to others'... it's bulky
Useless if it doesn’t charge….