Rare WON'T Remake Banjo Kazooie?! WHY?!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- So Apprently Rare won't Remaster or remake Banjo Kazooie?! Why? It's a pretty stupid Reason
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'Kind of successful'
KIND OF SUCCESSFUL
EXCUSE ME
BANJO KAZOOIE REVOLUTIONIZED THE 3D PLATFORMER/COLLECTATHON GENRE
IT SOLD MILLIONS
AND THEY CALL IT
'Kind of Successful'
Ok.
Faith has been lost.
REVOLUTIONIZED THE 3D PLATFORMER GENRE
EXCUSE ME
@@stevewilliams1819
*u wot?*
@@stevewilliams1819 you are either a troll, a kid or a moron, Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie were worldwide hits when they first came out in 1998 and 2000, together they sold over 10 million copies worldwide which for that time is a whole hell of a lot, even nowadays it is high up there, it is renowned as having revolutionised 3D platformers and having shown exactly what can be done with 3D in general, without it games nowadays would be significantly worse,
3.5 million isn't that much as lifetime sales when compared to Spyro, Crash, Mario, and Zelda
Also Mario 64 revolutionized 3D gaming Banjo just followed it with a cool game, plus most don't even like collectathons anymore which why we don't even see them really
I'm so glad that Spyro and Crash didn't end up forgotten and left with less games
That's what I feared would happen after Mind Over Mutant and Skylanders... Each saying something to companies about the character in question that simply was not true. FINALLY the correct story is out there, and the Nitro Fueled title for Crash proves at least one of them had it believed.
I lost it at that sea of thieves simulation. XD
XD lol
Rare is now Blizzard. "You think you want it. But you don't."
Simply Ravalox sad but true
I'll admit to agreeing with that statement (though it's a terrible thing to say) with respect to Blizzard, but only because WoW's mechanics have changed so much. BK though? A remake is the least they could do for us, with a new game with the old mechanics giving us what we've yearned for for so long.
Hasn’t Nintendo already proven that remasters are successful???
Well Nintendo isnt really remastering the games... XD most of them are just kind of... Ported xD *now with Funky kong*
That's Nintendo
Look at the Zelda games
@@josiahrios6716 OH yhea! I forgot about them xD...
Remasters and full blown remakes (several Pokémon games, Mario 64, Luigi's Mansion etc).
They don't want to remake the old banjo kazooie games?
They want to do something different and innovative with the IP?
You mean like what they did with nuts n bolts. That was real successful am i right? -_-
Wander Trico yeah....what even was that? It certainly wasn’t Banjo Kazooie.
They did the exact thing with Banjo X, what turned into Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts.
Cars? Cars?! CAAAAAAAAARS?!
AND IIIIIIIII-HOLY SHIT
WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU-I can't believe you'd do this to me goddammit how could you do this to me?!
Or simply just having him be added to Super Smash Bros Ultimate. If that happens, everyone and their momma is gonna wonder "damn!.. who is this bear and bird?" I feel that Nintendo and Microsoft/Rare can do good things together again.
Nuts and Bolts was garbage, and it marked "the beginning of the end", for Rare.
Fans, you know what to do.
*START YOUR UNREAL ENGINES!*
You win.
HAHAAAA
XD
And then, despite leaving the IP to die in a pit next to battle toads and perfect dark, they will strike down with THE MIGHT OF ZEUS and DMCA the fan project, as they sit around pretending that Sea of Thieves isn't an enormous Shipwreck.
@@master_matthew A new Battletoads game is coming in 2019 though?
It’s funny because Activision almost bought Rare instead of Microsoft back in 2002.
I actually would like that better atleast Banjo games would still come out.
Makes me wish that they did.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Now I’m pissed at Activision and Rare
Banjo Kazooie Remake PS4?! :D
Probly cause the new "Rare" want to focus on multiplayer stuff that Microsoft wants.. sadly this is the reality.. just give the rights back to the old rare devs! Platonic games. Not like the new Rare are doing anything with it!
Corey Mckee All of their teams are working on updates to Sea of Thieves. They definitely are doing things lol
Give Rareware to Nintendo :P
@@Approvedjoey117 yeah those are definitely "good things" right..
Corey Mckee actually yeah. Sea of thieves is a great game believe it or not. The people who complain are the ones who don’t have friends.
@@Approvedjoey117 I have plenty of friends. Its just a bad game. In MY OPINION. Take it or leave it. I dont really care. Lol
Why do i feel we might not get them for smash now?
thats not good
You mean they're supposed to?
Because being in Smash means relevancy and being in the news, and why Nintendo would give a platform for a dead series that can't be in the Switch even if it released games.
@@Igorcastrochucre piranha plant is all over the news
@@Igorcastrochucre castlevania, game and watch series, ice climber, duck hunt, wii fit, and even R.O.B got in, so thats the most ignorant and stupidest reason said for them to not get in
Igorowan I mean... G&W, Marth and Roy (in Melee), Simon, and K. Rool beg to differ
I officially HATE Rare now, They had the license to Banjo-Kazooie since the franchise died in 2008. They should make a remaster, THE FANS DEMAND IT!!! We already have Spyro and Crash. And with Resident Evil 2 and Medi-Evil getting remakes soon, It makes sense that Banjo-Kazooie should get the remake treatment. WHO'S WITH ME?
Gobl 943 I’m with you!!!
Me too!
I'm... not. "Rare" no longer has the creative geniuses behind the originals, and they lack the passionate love of the series to make up for that. In effect, they're no longer Rare in any way but name. So I say, since they're unwilling and/or incapable of using the IP any more, to just go ahead and sell it to someone who WILL put it to use! Playtonic and Retro are both excellent choices, the former being the phoenix of old Rare still in the process of rising from the ashes of the new Rare, and the latter having effectively filled their Nintendo role since they left!
Im with you to man!!! Lets shake up the WHOLE NET recruit all Banjo-Kazooie fans...come on lets do it!!!! WAKE UP GUYYYYSSSS!!!!
Banjo-Kazooie should get the remake treatment, but not from Rare. This Rare isn't the same one we loved. They should sell the Banjo-Kazooie IP to Nintendo, and then Retro Studios can make a remake and even a new game.
So they just gave us the Blizzard response? Cool.
@@stevewilliams1819 Tell that to the 3+ million copies sold of the original game and the millions of millions that the remakes of Crash ad Spyro both sold.
@@stevewilliams1819 I see, I guess you prefer microtransaction filled multiplayer only garbage and yearly Call of Duty copy-pastes. Fine, meanwhile people who like real games will play real games.
@@stevewilliams1819 I'm not into multiplayer only garbage either, I'm into real games with real content., not those "live service" games that keep getting pushed around, in. Would you rather a genuine game like Crash, Spyro, and Banjo? Or an empty service like Sea of Thieves?
Crash remake and Spyro remakes are big successes, Banjo was a big success back in the day and people most definitely want it, service games like Sea of Thieves are failure garbage.
@@stevewilliams1819 It launched completely empty with nothing to do but meaningless fetch quests and I could not give less of a damn if they "updated it", that "but they patched new content" excuse has zero validity to justify release it now fix it later.
God of War and Spiderman where to two biggest hits of the year while Spyro remake was a massive success just like Crash was in 2017, Crash also did very well when it was released multiplatform. Do you know what all those games have in common? They're full complete games released at launch with all the content in, no "updates" to put back in missing features, no microtransactions, no release it now finish it later, no continous monetization, no multiplayer only, no service. THAT is what a real game, that is what people want and it is a hard proven fact. Meanwhile Sea of Thieves was an embarrasing failure that no one even gives damn about anymore, because Sea of Thieves tried to do the horrendous "games as service" mentality and it deservedly failed.
Rare saying that people don't want true games and need more Sea of Thieves, when true games keep being sucessful and service games like Sea of Thieves keep failing shows that they're completely tone deaf. If you somehow actually think that them saying that is "a realistic answer" when it already proven to be completely false also shows you're just as tone deaf.
Wrong, people still care about GoW 4 and it is still well remembered as one of the best games of 2018 and big middle finger to the games as service bullcrap that AAA publishers are trying to shove down people's throats. A lot of people DID buy an Xbox 360 for the classic Banjo games or already had an N64 to revisit them, there were also quite a few Xbox Ones sold for Rare Replay because Banjo was there.
SoT sure as hell wasn't marketed for "a niche market", it was hyped over and over like it would be the big Xbox One game and Rare's big comeback, it came out and was an embarrasing failure considered to be almost as bad as No Man's Sky's relaese.
Nowadays hardly anyone cares about Sea of Thieves, most of the people who played it through Game Pass' free trial didn't bother to comeback after it expired, and the game went down as a total fail for Xbox and Rare. Banjo on the other hand is still beloved with tons and tons of people wishing it'd be in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (which is unlikely because it's a Microsoft owned IP) and calling it a good candidate for a classic remake that are hard proven to be successful and profitable,
Umm...Playtonic Games should be making that banjo game...
QUIT HOLDING MY ENTIRE CHILDHOOD HOSTAGE!!
DO YOU READ THIS RARE? QUIT HOLDING OUR CHILDHOOD HOSTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rare’s full of trolls. Remember the end of N&B? They literally said that they wouldn’t get another game. I know that remasters are still a few years off. Banjo-Threeie is what is extremely likely. I’m calling an E3 reveal. The Banjo-Threeie trademark, as with Tooie and regular Kazooie was renewed, which doesn’t mean much on its own, until you realize that the Banjo-Threeie site updated for the first time since 2002 with the trademarks. To top it all off, I think that the duo’s in Smash. Rare Spirits were found in the datamine before the game released. They were completely sponged except for the text that kept them there. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a marketing stunt to sponsor Threeie, announced at E3.
@The Joe A new developer is our best bet, anyway. Look at what Rare did with Conker and Sea of Thieves.
@The Joe The trademark should be given to Retro Studios.
+The Joe If you believe that, then you’re not realizing that both Phil Spencer and Rare view SoT as a success, and Microsoft is never going to let them die. That’s the shocking part. They’re going to be a living corpse.
+The Joe Saying that also proves you don’t remember anything. DK64 made Rare bankrupt due to the Expansion Pack Crash Glitch. They barely got out Tooie. Nintendo didn’t know, and refused to help. They pitched an offer to Microsoft and Sony. Sony was essentially modern day Activision with their deal, so they went to Microsoft. Nintendo was blind, and Microsoft HAS changed in the previous years. Rare has a chance to be revived. That chance is low, but it’s there unlike to 0% you’re giving them. It’s not hopeless, or else Microsoft would have dropped them long ago.
+The Joe Rare’s always been like that. They never liked remakes/remasters. I’ve read the recent interview with Grant, and yeah, I think it’s sad, but Grant wouldn’t be doing Smash music, and they would have got him for Banjo-Threeie music after that interview, as the website was updated for the first time since 2002 the week after. I am sorry if I came off too hateful or accusatory. I do realize that the title may have insinuated some negative things. We’re all on the same side, just on different pages. I used to have the same mentality about Microsoft as you. I still see some of it in me. I just see hope for or bear and bird. I just was hoping that you would as well. Again, sorry for the attitude, and thanks for the conversation.
I just want Banjo Threeie :(
That was just a troll at the end of the game, they were making it; but after a week they thought it was "too repetitive" which resulted in the game being shelved.
Agreed:(
I'm still waiting for a true Paper Mario 3! I know SPM is technically PM3, but I mean a new game with the same gameplay as PM64 and TTYD and not the same crappy gameplay from SS and CS!
C'mon Rare! You're intentionally missing out on a huge gold mine right now! And I just did the math, N. Sane Trilogy in total has made around 200,000,000 dollars! THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU'RE THROWING AWAY RARE! just.... WHY?!!
Do the math, Rare!
It'll oversaturate the market and only PC and Xbox one players would be buying it anyway
@Luke Henderson they should release the trilogy, banjo-kazooie, grunty's revenge and banjo-tooie, just imagine what Grunty's revenge could look like *off* GBA graphics and in 3D graphics with more content that they couldn't fit on the GBA cart
Nah, while Banjo Kazooie is a beloved classic, the demand just isnt that high. Banjo Kazooie has a niche following, which would be fine if a complete banjo kazooie collection was released on multiple platforms. However, banjo belongs to microsoft now, which means the game would only be on the xbox one which doesnt have a very big user base. Not to mention, redesigning every aspect of banjo kazooie and tooie with modern video game graphics would take ALOT of time. Not to mention playtesting and making sure that all the collisions work properly. Its asking them to put as much time in money as they would into a brand new triple A title into a remake for a Niche game franchise that would only be on Xbox.
Waaaaay too much of a risk for any business man to green light. Our only hope would be Rare making banjo threeie, but even then, Im pretty sure that microsoft doesnt have faith in the series. Im just gonna be real, while I love banjo kazooie, the IP hasnt proven very profitable as of lately. In the past 11 years that Banjo Kazooie has been on the XBLA, it hasnt even sold 100k units. Literally no business man would ever greenlight a Banjo Threeie or banjo kazooie remake with such abysmal sales numbers. However, with Banjo being in smash, this may help boost his popularity. But other than Smash reinvigorating the franchise, I dont see a new banjo coming anytime soon.
@@QueenofTaterTots
What you suggest would be WAAAAAAAAAAAY too expensive for microsoft to greenlight and fund. Way too much of a risk for not *NEARLY* enough of the rewards.
I don't like what Rare said. Saying that we may think we want the remaster but we really don't? I'm gonna call bullshit! I never played ANY Banjo-Kazooie games! I'd go crazy over a remaster! At least Activision would hop onto the project in a heartbeat for us! Ugh!
@Truth whatever
Agreeed same here
They did the same thing when thinking of Banjo X, what turned into BK: N&B
Blizzard said the same shit shit a few years ago about classic wow... next year classic wow is going to be released
I think it would be cool if either Vicarious Visions, Playtonic Games, or better yet, both worked on a remaster for Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie and made it a 2-in-1 game.
I totally disagree with rare on this decision. I think a banjo and conker remake would be the BEST decision.
TwinPeaks345 Channel Yeah I totally agree 100%
Maybe banjo kazooie but not confer definitely not I hope it never comes for conker besides they already tried to remake conker and it was horrible it was just awful so they gave up on it it’s called project spark conker.
I mean they did redo Conker but due to that heavy censorship n stuff what we know as Live & Reloaded backfired hardcore. If they really were to redo that game they wouldnt only have to bring the uncensored N64 version up to date, but also give that game a lil more modern touch.
@@numberjuaanctr420 your point is?
It could be uncensored, and even on the Switch, considering we have M rated games on there.
(Senran Kagura Reflexions)
Sure, a Banjo remake would be very cool but no Conker remake since they already remaked it and that was awesome. But I mean, it would be stupid to make another remake.
I think the biggest red flag in that interview answer was when he was obviously referring to previous Rare games like Banjo as "kinda successful"... Does modern Rare even KNOW how successful their old IPs were?
Furthermore, Rare, Sea of Thieves, while a brilliant concept, was a massive, boring FLOP that hasn't been talked about in a long ass time. So much for RELEVANT
Sorry, CGE, It's just... I really hate the attitude some of these developers/producers have when they push their once glorious name forward but can't even back it up any more, and STILL act like they have any clout after so many failures and questionable choices.
Rare's last relevant game was Nuts and Bolts, which regardless of your opinion had a lot of love and thought put into it, and it shows. Everything AFTER that was Kinect shovelware or an MMO-wannabe. And no, I'm not counting Rare Replay, that was nothing more than emulation.
As far as I know, Rare is basically a shell of its former self. Most of the old guard are gone now, so now all we have is new blood that stepped in to fill in for the veteran developers who hold to the idea that greats like Banjo were 'kinda successful' and wanting to move on from it.
All that got us was Sea of Thieves which sadly went nowhere.
My point, Dragoncam, is that merely emulating an old game is so easy that a company doing so indicates nothing about said company's understanding of the game's appeal. Nothing BAD obviously, but nothing good either.
And while I didn't mention NES Remix... that's quite a bit different than "mere" emulation. The emphasis was on quickfire challenges with some mechanical and aesthetic tweaks at times, as opposed to "here's the old game again, just on another system".
Come to think of it, there were some significant improvements between the N64 and 360 versions of the original Banjos as well, namely Stop 'N Swop being a thing, Notes in the first one no longer resetting, and Boss Replays in the second game now recording your best times AND actually including the Hag 1 (the N64 version does neither of those).
Wow 3 years and this is still soo f ignorant 🤣.
Rare sea of thieves with over 24 millons players vs Banjo 3M .... You get the point right? Lol
They try to do remakes with Conker= floped.
Try a new Game for Banjo = floped...
Nintendo guys just love to cry nostalgia but don't support those games if they are not on nintendo plataforms
@@anterosauditore5850 Conker's remake flopped because it was censored and didn't get any advertisement, and Banjo: Nuts and Bolts flopped because it not only mocked the genre it came from (platformer) and swapped its core mechanics for a "build a car" style of game, but the gameplay change it went with ended with a game that wasn't even that good in the end.
As for Sea of Thieves, a lot had to go in for it to make it the success it is today, because three years ago, it most certainly wasn't. First, it was a brand new Rare title, which had been silent since Nuts and Bolts, and fans of that development team just wanted something from them which would get the initial interest going. Second, it was HEAVILY advertised by Microsoft, even after its poor launch with mixed receptions (which changed over time due to it being constantly updated, since it's a live service game). Third, the gameplay concept was actually good (well, after patches and updates that actually GAVE it content). And Finally, it was part of Game Pass, so for a fair number of players, the game is free to play, which definitely padded those numbers a bit.
I still stand by what I said, though, but I think the only one being ignorant here is you, as you seem to brush off the reason why people are upset as to why properties like Banjo and Conker are swept off to the side for the most part and simply just file it under nostalgia blindness. For the record, I personally never grew up with the N64. I would only ever finally play Banjo 1 and 2 when I picked up a 360, and that was only after I heard more and more people talk about those games as the online community grew and grew. I hold no nostalgia for Rare or any of its IPs, but I can certainly understand why people still want that long awaited Banjo Threeie or Conker 2, or even a ACTUALLY GOOD NEW BATTLETOADS GAME.
Regardless, at least Sea of Thieves got better over time, and the release of Rare Replay drummed up new fans and new support for older titles and IPs. Maybe there's hope for said older titles to make a resurgence.
Aw man. I was hoping they'd do so after seeing Crash and Spyro getting a remake.
They won't because the original developers that are now platonic games are focusing on yooka-laylee
yooka-laylee is already out,so your not making sense,unless your trying to say they're making a second game already for it then I want proof
When Yooka-Laylee was first released they said that if it was successful they would consider continuing the series making me think that they might be making a sequel
Ben the awesome 1 I don’t think Yooka Laylee was successful though.......
Orland Wood they did the same thing with Zelda ocarina of time 64
Banjo's rights were bought by Nintendo before the November 1st smash direct.
There's still hope.
Conkers bad fur day anyone? Or live and reloaded
Both
Fc ya^^
Would rather just Bad Fur Day. Live and Reload is too similar to the original, but not as good. Also a sequel would be great, since the game kind of ended on a clifthanger.
Mixture of what both of them got right
Imo, Bad games. sorry.
I'd like to see Nintendo making a new Banjo&Kazooie, but I don't see that hapening anytime.
Well, we have them in smash now
I’d much rather have Activision take the Bear & Bird and make Retuned Two Pack. Also my guess is they’re secretly embarrassed about Nuts’n’Bolts after Microsoft took Rare. Or maybe Playtonic; they did make Yooka-Laylee, a spiritual Banjo-Threeie, and some of their staff worked at Rare, they know what makes Banjo and Kazooie tick
Remake Gruntys Revenge as well
Rather have Playtonic take over Banjo Kazooie since Grant Kirkhope was the composer for Yooka-Laylee. Activision would drag the bear and bird through the mud further with in game micro transactions.
@@matguimond92 You are aware Activision (and others) remade Crash and Spyro without any microtransactions and received constant praise for it?
the comment will be funny.
[FG] Soapy Never played Crash or Spyro growing up in the 90s because I never owned an original play station. Grew up on the Nintendo 64.
They should give banjo-kazooie to playtonics
Ad long as people care about it, they won't just give away the IP.
@@Dragoncam13 Why not?
@@someguy3263 Many,many reasons
@@Dragoncam13 you know plantronics team more or less is the original makers of Banjo-Kazooie.
current team of Rare isnt the same folks anymore more or less.just in namesake.
@@XRedDaggerX Playtonic doesn't like Microsoft so it'll never happen
I subscribed just because i saw this one video I love banjo Kazooie
I would buy a banjo remaster
I would love to buy one too 😔
'They wouldnt want that.' *looks at how excited peeps are to see Crash (the trilogy and the racer), Spyro, Medevil, Final Fantasy VII, Resident Evil 2 n such get remade and folks like Mario return to the 3D games roots instead of entirely new things* hmmm r u sure bout that fam? For something that you think we dont want to see happening i clearly see the exact Opposite being the case.
You don't get it
@@Dragoncam13 "You don't get it" Please explain how we do not "get" it, and how the fans are merely ignorant sheeple who do not know what they want, despite this trend obviously being real, and obviously getting MANY purchases with not much in terms of complaint (aside from the removal of subtitles for deaf people in Spyro).
Something tells me this is a Rare white knight :V
I never played the original Banjo-Kazooie (missed out on it) but I wouldn't want the remake either not from Rare themselves. They haven't made a good game since their golden years; they'd probably find a way to ruin a remaster. Let them continue dumping resources into their sinking ship of a game.
@@higueraft571
Banjo Kazooie just isnt as popular as he used to be. Banjo Kazooie is a niche franchise, simple as that. Hell, they pretty much did a mini-remaster on the xbox live arcade back in 2008. Yet, in the 11 years that the game has been available on xbox 360 and xbox one, it hasnt even gotten close to selling 100k. There is no way in hell microsoft would sink the money into remaking the game with modern High Quality graphics. Just not worth the risk.
Would anyone else like to see a Diddy Kong Racing remastered?
fuck. yeah!!
Ooooooo I would love that
They did it with conker from n64 to 360...so they need to check thier past
Heyho Brando That’s what I was thinking!
The remake of on Conker on OG Xbox sucked becuse they made it too PC and almost all of the cusswords were censored, even "shit" was censored, while the original N64 version had it completely uncensored.
03bgood saying its bad because they censored some bad words its stupid and thats the only flaw
@@h1f2g1h5 it's not "bad" bad but it's a cake without the icing. you can still enjoy the plain cake but it's not the same experience.
Sea of thieves is boring.
Rare is not Rare anymore....nuff said
We will Be Making Banjo Kazooie n Conker games we at stem games will fully make new games for Banjo n Kazooie n Conker Bad fur day The New Conker game will Be call "Conker The Dark King it will be Rated M we will be remastering the Nintendo 64 Version
unless they get the original creators to make it i wouldnt want a remake. NOPE. rareware is just a shell of its former self, they died when microsoft bought them out...
Nintendo almoust murder them, Xbox sabe them
Just look at dinosaur planeta... Oh wait i mean Star Fox forcé by nintendo...
But Rare is not Rare. Keep in mind the development team that created the original Banjo Kazooie have long left Rare. I think that Rare do not care as there are no people left who worked on this IP to have it in their hearts.
My hope is that Microsoft sees the benefits and money and either forces rare to make it or Microsoft hands off the rare ip to one of its 3rd party's for a remake.
Every time I play Banjo Kazooie I just think of all the things I would add to it, those ideas only rush in when I'm having a really good time.
I think his comments on "we should only do it if there is a new cool idea" are pretty valid here, but his attitude implies there are none. IMO that is just utterly ridiculous. Want to remaster Banjo? Then add a story twist, the banjo we know and love accidentally gets transported into an alternate dimension with a higher polygon count and other twists. An extra part of Banjo's journey is literally getting his polygons up to par with the HD realm so NPC's stop treating him like an asshole. "Banjo did you wake up on the wrong side of the multiverse?" Says HD Mole. See what I'm getting at here?
There you go, there's a game that can have all the same levels and more, but with a slight twist to change things up.
Who's watching after Banjo and Kazooie announcement in Smash
KIND OF SUCCESSFUL?! Okay... 1. I would pay top dollar for a Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie remake. 2. I was born in 1991 and a lot of the games that were stated, Crash, Spyro, etc, are all favorites of mine and I love seeing them get the attention that they deserve. But there are more people out there, like myself, who wish for that nostalgia trip and know that some games are just timeless. 3. The fact that Rareware is actually treating the Banjo-Kazooie franchise this way and say that Sea of Thieves is superior, is like nails on a fucking chalkboard. I have my full faith that some other company other than Microsoft at this point, would treat the game so much better. In fact, GIVE IT BACK TO NINTENDO. LOOK AT BREATH OF THE WILD, SUPER SMASH BROTHERS ULTIMATE, MARIO KART FFS! They treat their games very well and make sure everything is polished so far from what the Switch has given us! Kind of successful... Wank off with that shit. I'd have the hardest lob on just waiting in line for my copy of a remastered B-K and B-T. Sigh... Oh Rare...
I gotta go to Rare’s defense here.
That interview was actually done by DK Vine, a fansite dedicated to many of Rare’s franchises - the founders of the site actually got to go to Rare HQ last year and are very close with several Rare staff, including Craig Duncan.
I don’t think it’s the fact they don’t want to touch Banjo because of tone-deafness, rather because they just like doing what they want to at the time. DKC 3 was done by a different internal team to the ones who did DKC 1 and 2, because they wanted to move on to other projects (Banjo). Conker didn’t get a sequel because that team wished to do something else, and that same team moved on from Killer Instinct 1 and 2 years earlier. Rare’s got a ton of franchises under its belt, but notice how next to none of them go past a second game.
I’d love to see another Banjo game, but if Rare doesn’t want to do it, I wouldn’t want them to if they don’t have a passion to - Nuts and Bolts actually started off as a straight up remake of BK1, but they wanted to do something new as opposed to just making the same game again, and I really can’t blame a development team for wanting to do something different than to what came before. I can imagine myself being burned out from doing the same thing and wanting to branch out, but nobody will enjoy it because it’s not what they’re used to/what they wanted.
In terms of Sea of Thieves, the game has its flaws, but the charm, wit, and identity it has is something that Rare can only pull off, and I’ve only played it a handful of times but it really does have an identity with its artstyle, music, etc.
With a name like Banjo (coupled with the fact many key members of that team are still with Rare) I’m certain we’ll see him again someday, and it’s not like Rare doesn’t acknowledge their past franchises, especially as of late. Whether Rare makes it or not is yet to be seen, but we’ll see them again.
That's fine, but it's his reasoning that is stupid, he's basically saying fans don't know what they want, he knows what fans want
I say you're absolutely right
He didn't say he knew what the fans wanted, moreso referring to people who are very nostalgic for Banjo. There's been several times where someone has said "Oh I really want them to remake/reboot insert X" and the end product is either underwhelming or caters only to nostalgia and has nothing else to it. I wouldn't want Banjo to fall into that category - I'd much rather see a new game if we were to get one.
Even if Rare is doing a banjo game they will keep it a surprise for the fans.
I'm sorry but sea of thieves was boarderline unplayable. I really don't see the charm you are referring to.
I agree with the rest of your comment.
Never lose faith in Rare! They're the masterminds that brought banjo to us.
The N64 version is still fun to play. I dont need a remake, personally
Same here, just give me Banjo-Threeie instead.
As someone who has never play BK I'd love to see it happen. I never played Crash besides Wrath of Cortex and thought I hated Crash games till the Crash Trilogy became remastered and fell in love with it so I'd love the same thing to happen to BK.
Give banjo bk to Nintendo, Miyamoto would promo that ish bk to Glory just like Super Mario Odyssey smh clearly Rare has no plot line for banjo anymore
No, Nintendo isn't the same anymore. They'll just do the same thing to people whenever they even mention Mario and Pokemon, lawsuits. Playtonic Games used to be Rare Employees and they made the spiritual successor to Banjo Kazooie, Yooka Laylee. I think Playtonic would be the best company to give the IP rights to.
I cannot understand the first comment, neither the answer. And Yooka laylee wasnt a well received game.
@@mrdoggo3569 What are you talking about? Yooka Laylee was a great game. It wasn't exactly a Banjo Threeie but it's a great representation on what Banjo Kazooie gave us. Hell, the main antagonist represents Microsoft according to one of the developers.
@@thanatosvorigan4986 I am sorry, but the game got veeery mixed reviews. I'm sure playtonic can do better.
@@mrdoggo3569 Reviews are sometimes very unreliable. Sometimes review show like a 2/10 but the game isn't even that bad. Other times it might be 9/10 even though the game is very bad. What more do you want Playtonic to do?
I would prefer a sequel, not a remake
That guy is completely out of touch with reality and should be fired just for being so narrowed minded. I hope the remake still comes and Microsoft put another studio in charge of it like they did with Perfect Dark.
who said rare had to remake the games, Microsoft could just contract another developer to make them.
Microsoft would use one of their own developers (the new KI were developed 2nd party
I think that's the only answer at this point. Give it to people who love and respect those IP's and would do them justice. New Rare is garbage.
Rare doesn't care about their fans anymore, If they did care they would of made a remake already.
Rare should have buyed the it's rights to nintendo not Microsoft 😟
Rare should have sold to Nintendo not Microsoft. Fixed that for you. And honestly I think that's Nintendo's call over Microsoft. Nintendo didn't buy them Microsoft did. Should they have? Hell yes. But they didn't.
@@batbugz why are you correcting people? he were wrong at all wtf
Mark Pickering yeah microsoft doesn't need rare at all,rare was always on nintendo then microsoft had to buy it,why? you guys didn't do anything with the games execpt ruin them =w= if rare was still with nintendo we would have had a banjo-threeie and a remaster by now
Dark Spyro The really dumb reason that Microsoft bought Rare, (at least it’s rumored to be the reason anyways) is that Microsoft thought that by buying Rare, they’d get the rights to Donkey Kong. Really, really dumb if you ask me.
Pardon my British, but if that rumor is true, then Microsoft simply fucked up HARD!
@@eeveefennecfox the reason why rareware had to be bought out is because they were a small team, and in the n64 era it was easier for a small team to make a big projects. However in the gamecube era, projects became much more difficult to manage with a small team such as rare. At this time they were starting to go bankrupt for that very reason, and even though they made games exclusively on nintendo consoles, nintendo did not own them. When the time came for rareware to be bought out, nintendo didn't buy them. They were then bought out by microsoft.
BK was literally the face of Rare wtf...
Banjo is literally the only reason why I want to win a random Xbox One on some giveaway
Even if Banjo-Kazooie and/or Banjo-Tooie don't get remastered versions, I do believe a revival of the franchise is in order; I may not have an Xbox One but I'd love to see a new B-K game--maybe Banjo-Newie or something to that effect.
That it's the problem of the "Banjo fans" 99% of them (same as You) don't own an Xbox but still cry for an Xbox IP to msje a new Game taht they are not going to Buy....
Let Nintendo buy it and slap Rare with a Remaster and Banjo 3 in the face
Nintendo sold the IP in the 1st place becuse they don't care abouth it. Wake up dude.
WE REALLY REALLY WANT A BANJO AND KAZOOIE REMAKE WE WONT IT BACK AND BETTER THAN EVER yep that was my reaction 3:19😡😡😡😡
That stupid that they wouldn't make a remake of banjo kazooie or Banjo Tooie i mean come on they were 2 of my favorite
childhood games. I know i would pay money for banjo kazooie or banjo Tooie on a ps4.
Doesn't someone else have the right to banjo kazooie other than rare?
Good question!
No, Rare (therefore Microsoft) has the IP.
Yeah Microsoft 😂
Because Rare is dead AF
Rare, just sell the IP to playtonic, their staff are the staff that made banjo, dk, and conker in the 90’s, and left you to make sister titles like yooka laylee.
Microsoft should just give rare back to nintendo, they don't do anything with it, and when they do you get nuts and bolts
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Did Rare forget that people who played the first banjo kazooie game are grown adults that probably have the money to throw at this.
They should sell it to Playtonic. You know: THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE FANTASTIC BANJO GAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
How? If the Banjo IP it's worth more than the Playtonic studio lol also just becuse a few of them Made Banjo? Lol it's not Even allí the devs
They actually remade Conker BUT NOT BANJO, NOPE DO ANYTHING BUT BANJO, BANJO IS TRASH (if you couldn’t tell that was sarcasm)
because they don't like money
DatSquishyFello apparently
"That's not Rare" and this is why Rare is a shadow of its former self. Too stuck in their ways...
I'd like to see an LJN adaptation of Banjo Kazooie.
I'd like to see a Bethesda adaptation of Banjo Kazooie.
I'd like to see a Blizzard adaptation of Banjo Kazooie.
See, it's funny because none of those companies are making good games.
Fallout 76 wasn't that bad.
@@thanatosvorigan4986 See that's the thing, I didn't say any of those companies are making bad games. I said they aren't making good ones. A game not being "that" bad doesn't make it a good game. At least not in my opinion.
@@TheSmilingFear When I said "wasn't that bad" I meant it's not as bad as the way you'd think. I enjoy the later Fallout games even though I started with Fallout 3. Especially Fallout 4, that's my favorite from the series. And the real disappointment is seeing all these so called "Fallout fans" who actually only like Fallout New Vegas (even though it wasn't even good) giving Fallout 4 and 76 so much hate.
@@thanatosvorigan4986 Sure, the problem being that after you release the same game 5 times with slightly different artwork the people that were impressed by the first couple are scratching their heads wondering how they managed to get suckered into rebuying the same experience 4+ times. For you to say "well as someone who isn't burnt out after experiencing the game half as many times as some of the people complaining, I just don't get why people are complaining" kind of leaves me at a "huh." You're disappointed that people aren't happy that the structure of a game/series hasn't changed at all in over a decade? What does someones personal experience with the games have to do with other people not enjoying it? It doesn't make sense to say "wait, x game wasn't bad! I liked it!" because people like bad things all the time. Heroin for instance is something many of the people taking it love with all of their hearts; but it'd be foolish to claim it to be a good thing just because of that.
@@thanatosvorigan4986 Wait hold on. "all these so called "Fallout fans" who actually only like Fallout New Vegas (even though it wasn't even good) giving Fallout 4 and 76 so much hate."
That's because 4 and 76 basically shit on the lore, storytelling, and world in general. Not to mention just plain shitting on everyone who had a valid complaint/pointing out the illegal shit they pulled by going "here's $5 in microtransaction currency, go get those... pants or something that totally arent in 4" I'm a Fallout fan and i've even forgiven 4, while it does butcher the story and boil it down to basically "3 factions nuke the institute, and 1 IS the institute", and how you're given a strict role rather than an ambiguous start like, say, NV or the first two Fallouts. Though 3 also maintains Ambiguity as well luckily. While 4 is a hard "you are a Soldier/Lawyer period and you have a son".
76 is more like an abomination of a hybrid of Coop, Rust/Ark, MMO, and Fallout but without the story/core of Fallout, or the depth of an MMO's endgame/leveling. Read notes and listen to audiobooks of faceless NPCs until the end of the story, then go farm the dragon for a slightly better 2-shot legendary, then go farm ammo, repeat dragon killing. :V
Fallout is a game based around stories about Conflict and the iconic phrase "War. War never changes." sums that up perfectly.
If you take out the story and turn it into a souless survival-lite Rust with a cash shop. Then it's no longer Fallout.
The type of game and how it's done doesnt matter as long as it's functional, and it has a damn good story/lore to get us interested. If you fail in that core part, it's game over.
Just because rare isn't going to do it doesn't mean they won't allow someone else to do so. Insomniac games did it with spyro and toys for bob.
Because old Rare is called Playtonic. Unless PT is on board, they won't do the original BK justice. Simple as that.
Any studio can do a remaster and do a game justice. Now making a sequel, thats a different story.
Even old nickelodeon games are getting remastered.We need a banjo kazooie remake or at least a sequel
I hope Banjo Kazooie being in Smash changes Rare’s mind.
I think so
After the beginning of Nuts and bolts (I know we don’t mention it but I have a point here) where they basically shat on the first games which along with Conner and Donkey Kong made them as popular as they are, I kinda lost all my respect for Rare
rare might not but what if nintendo will do it for them and microsoft would help do it, so basically it would be a cross platform game
My god i hope rare comes to their senses and starts doing remakes. after getting an N64 for my nieces for christmas and watching them play banjo kazooie for the past 2 days ive wanted so badly to pick up the stick and play it for them (cause they suuuuck at it) cause it look so fun but not only is it hard, the controls are clunky but even so it's such a fun game! i'd kill for a remake where not only are the graphics are updated but the controls too. so i could play it properly. not to mention iv'e played it's spiritual successor yooka laylee and it's awesome. the experience is really similar and microsoft could easily steal away the switch owners who played and love yooka laylee. i already have an Xbox which i bought for spyro but even if i did'n't already i'd get one to play an updated version of banjo. i mean come on, rare. jump on the nostalgia train. heck, if this works out well for them maybe they could even patch things up with nintendo and remake the DKC trilogy too. I know i'd pay 60+ bucks for all three
RARE YOU LAZY SON OF A GUN!
It kills me that Microsoft owns Rare. I almost bought an X-Box just because they made a new Banjo Kazooie game....then I heard it sucked! From that day on I will NEVER forgive X-Box for what they did to Banjo Kazooie! It is the main reason I do not support their games or consoles to this day!!!!
Hey Its Rare to be blamed for they wanted to do something new with banjo kazooie so they added something new to it !!! But i will Play battletoads next year byeee !!!
They should just give the IP back to Nintendo at this point.
Nintendo already has Super Mario, so that would be pointless.
@@Masked_Mastermind There's no need for a Mario clone/ripoff if we already have the real deal.
@X2011racer I feel like your just trolling at this point. Banjo and Kazooie both have unique attacks and they could share a moveset so they would be way different from Mario. And if you were talking about the game, then you should actually play the whole game and see for yourself that it isn't just some Mario rip-off. That's like saying Sonic and Crash are just lazy Mario clones or how Oranges are the same as Apples.
@@Masked_Mastermind To me, Banjo's just Microsoft's answer to Nintendo's Super Mario. I know that Master Chief's the real face of Microsoft, but Mario and Chief aren't in the same league regarding their corresponding audiences. A more fair comparison would be Chief and Link.
@X2011racer Except Banjo & Kazooie are technically owned by Rare and they had a history with Nintendo. It can't be "Microsoft's answer to Mario" because they were created before Xbox owned them and it was on the same console as Mario. And I would rather have B&K over dumb Steve from Minecraft, but Master Chief would be nice.
I honestly agree with Rare. Most remakes recently have... kinda been bleh. Banking on simply nostalgia and just slapping some shiny graphics on something, I don’t think that’s right. Ports work better. Unless it’s a remake like Pokemon remakes, unless it’s for money, it has little reason to exist. Don’t attack a game company for NOT caring only about money.
I think a new game for Banjo would be better, I don’t want old IP’s to die of course. I just don’t want the same game with new graphics when I could just play the old ones
And remember how graphically groundbreaking Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie were on the N64.
The remakes would look better, but when compared to the original, it would look shallow in comparison.
Honesty l,im wondering if they will outsource a remake to someone else other then rare.......or they might just port the games to switch
Just give the ip back to Nintendo already, we've seen all the gems Nintendo have been releasing for the Switch so imagine what they'd do if they got their hands on Banjo once again!
They just need to handover the rights to Nintendo or someone that will use Banjo and Kazooie
Nintendo Will 100% not use it...
@@anterosauditore5850 nobody is 🤣 give it to team17 - playtonic
@@kgallme how? The Banjo IP it's worth more than the wole playtonic xDD
Rare going with Microsoft is probably the worst thing that Rare did. Why don't they care about what older Fans want ? It is not that hard for them to listen. Give us a real Banjo Threeie and a Conker's Bad Fur Day sequel. It would make a lot of Money.
Its odd for Rare to think like that especially with the success of both Crash and Spyro, oh I hope Sony doesn't think the same way with Ape Escape.
Considering activision needed some license from sony to remake games literally presented by "Sony computer entertainment america/europe production" and how they are making medevil reremake i think it's safe to say they have remaking old platformers in mind tho in case of ape escape question would be how would they modernize the (messy) normal ape escape controls while being faithful for the fans of old at same time?
@@V-Jes At this point I'll be happy with anything new for the series xD
They're doing MediEvil so I doubt that very much
rare did go downhill with nuts and bolts,so they may not feel confident anymore,this wouldn't have happened if rare just stayed with nintendo,thanks microsoft =.=
It's because Rare literally doesn't care about making bank with their games. Everything they make is actually a passion project for them. They deliberately wanted to make kinect games. They have to be passionate about the game they're making or else they just won't have the heart to make it, and their passions shift around like they have ADHD. Just look at their legacy, they don't have a single game in all of their IP's that got a third entry, when you consider DKC3 was not made by the team that made the first two, and the Land games were essentially ports. Perfect Dark stopped at 2, Killer Instinct stopped at 2, Banjo Kazooie in its traditional format stopped at 2, Viva Pinata stopped at 2, Jet Force Gemini, Ghoulies, and Blast Corps. stopped at 1. I think it's pretty likely that we will get a Banjo 3, but it will most certainly be made by a different team in the same way Killer Instinct was. Also, keep in mind that there is always a major Rare nostalgia game to kick off each Xbox launch. The Xbox had a Conker remake, the 360 had PD0, and the One had KI. It seems pretty likely that the next Xbox will have a BK revival.
Has anyone realizes that if they were to make a n64 classic there wouldn’t be any rare ware games on it? Never thought Microsoft buying rare would still piss me off to this very day
It feels like I'm the only one who knows that. That, and the fact there are about only 20 N64 games on Wii Virtual Console, which are just enough for a hypothetical N64 Classic.
To be fair, I don't think there's enough of a reason to remake banjo kazooie and tooie. Like, crash 1 and spyro 1 were just painfully average before the remakes while I think banjo kazooie still holds up pretty well
So much wrong
superbutts 64 disagree but okay
I feel the same way. There isn't anything that feels outdated about playing BK and BT on the Xbox One. I would obvs get a remake as they are legendary games, but I couldn't help but feel like it would be very little value for money. I just don't care about graphics much at all.
Rare have been dead since they went to Microsoft noone from the N64 days of Rare are even there anymore heck even Grant Kirkhope has left all thats left are the new recruits which are a bunch muppets who don't have a clue what they are doing.
I agree they need to sell the IP rights to another company that way we can get what we want because obviously rare don’t want our money
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Yeah
Do You Even have an Xbox?
Yooka-Laylee wasn't a bad game, Obviously had its problems and not as good as Banjo-Kazooie but still decent. I am hoping for a sequel.
Playtonic, Activision, retro studios, hell, Nintendo! All of them could do this!
Soo nintendo or retro studios are going to make an Xbox exclusive Game? Lol
Sell the franchise back to Nintendo
Why... WHY. WHY doesn't Microsoft/Rare realize that they have a literal Gold mine in their hands and decide not to do anything with it. I would cry tears of joy if they just asked someone else to do it for them, since I doubt Rare will ever do it themselves. Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie are some of my all time favorite games, it sucks that this IP has been treated like dogshit. We need a remake of both of the games, I'd go out and buy an Xbox in a heartbeat if that happened
Honestly, I'm glad that Microsoft/Rare aren't going to remake the game because they would probably ruin it and make it look a lot like N&B. I just hope that B&K will be owned by another company like Nintendo and could have the help of other companies like Playtonic and/or Retro Studios because they actually know what makes a game like B&K a gem and they could even make a new B&K game for the Switch. I also want Banjo Kazooie to be in Smash Ultimate :)
@@Masked_Mastermind I really don't think they'd make it look like N&B. Look at the F4F Statue and Totaku figure, both in their original N64 designs. I highly doubt they'd return to the N&B design because of that
They would still ruin it though because of their incompetence and lack of passion for it.
@@Masked_Mastermind Yeah probably, but not too sure if they would really screw up that bad. I really hope they contact someone else like Playtonic to do it for them, or hell maybe even with them
I just think that a great game like B&K should owned by Nintendo, not by Rare or Microsoft. And if it were owned by Nintendo, then the B&K games would be so much better and Nintendo would actually show some love for B&K. But that's just my opinion.
Why can't Microsoft just force Rare to do it? I mean they are the owners of Rare and Rare will have no choice also doing something new yeah good idea let's look at how Sonic has been doing since Sonic Heroes when it comes to doing something new and innovative now look at Sonic Mania Plus when Sonic went back to his roots same with Crash and Spyro.
Or force them to let another studio work on it. I rather Rare not make it, it would be terrible if they did. Mainly because most of the creative devs that used to work there left.
@@cphtcq9696 I would have to agree after the God Awful Nuts and Bolts on 360 maybe since Nintendo and Microsoft are in such A good relationship and Banjo being in Smash Ultimate have Nintendo do A New Banjo Kazooie Game themselves and put it on the Switch.
We wont need a remake. if Banjo comes to Smash they'll port it to the Switch both Kazooie and Tooie :3
They belong to Microsoft though
@@samuelchurch5124 didnt see the datamine of Rareware spirits in Smash did you? They are gonna put him in as DLC for Microsft and Nintendo fans
@@AxlTheScourge that's not a thing though
@@AxlTheScourge
It has serious competition for the moment... too soon too know.
@@samuelchurch5124 yes it is
i'll show you
twitter.com/AltDeltas/status/1066276640324501504?s=19
Also Nintendo trademarked Banjo for Switch
trademarks.justia.com/752/97/banjo-75297133.html
I'm confused as to why people hate Banjo and Kazooie Nuts and Bolts? I loved the game when I was younger but I've never played the older ones so maybe it's just trash with the story line? Can someone explain as to why Nuts and Bolts is hated?
Because it wasn't Banjo-Threeie.
People actually liked the game until Jontron made a video about it which made people hate it.
Oh, that makes more sense. Thank you!
exactly we don't ever talk about nuts and bolts it doesn't exist,you get us fans canadian guy,I heard some people say nuts and bolts is banjo-threeie,they're obviously in denial or fake fans
I like N&B, even consider it as deserving a place in Banjo canon... but as a SPIN-OFF, like Banjo-Pilot or arguably Grunty's Revenge (only more in-depth of one, obviously). And spin-offs like that don't qualify as numbered sequels.
It's a good game you moron
@@willycheez7218 clearly a fake fan,real fans knows nuts and bolts suck ass
Remake em and make a whole new BK game !
As sad as it is, Rare’s not making me want any Banjo. I mean I WOULD KEEL OVER in a heartbeat if they would announce it, but they’ve disappointed so much. #BanjoForSmash is all I want and pretty much the only other reason I bought Ultimate. Ultimate’s great, but my hopes are set on a DLC PACK FIGHTERS being Banjo and Kazooie. -Rare, you’re pretty stupid for not listening to your fans. We love you, but you need to know the hard truth. Give us Banjo, and maybe we’ll think about SoT’s 2. -We want the baby back bbq ribs. Then give us a warm cornbread muffins with butter. The pizza with a perfectly risen crust with excellent ingredients. Then we’ll be ready for a second helping of buttery breadsticks. The FREAKING, milkshake after a heart stopping and (-->) perfectly grilled burger. (
I think the point being made is that the company’s ethos is to test new ideas and break new ground with different mechanics that they introduce in their games. The reason they don’t want to do a remaster or remake is because it is diametrically opposed to their philosophy or exploring new games. Now, I have enjoyed the remakes of Spyro and Crash myself, and like the idea of it as well for Banjo Kazooie. But, ultimately the company has the right to consider what business decisions they feel have the best chance of being profitable and that matches the mission that they have set out to accomplish. Sure, not all of their games will be massive successes, but at least they try to test new ideas and not tread the same ground too often. Unfortunately, they see remakes and remasters as doing just that.
Am I the only one upset that rare is making a new perfect dark when half games released today are sci fi shooters? Don't get me wrong it's nice to see them work on older franchise but I don't think it's a stench to say we all would have rather seen banjo or conker come back especially since Banjo and Kazooie were litterally the second most requested characters for Ultimate after Sora
"I think they might think they do, but I don't think they would."
Sounds awfully familiar to another game development company's response around a somewhat similar idea.
If WoW Classic could happen, so could a reboot of Banjo-Kazooie.
I think Craig is correct. Look what happened with old Rare and Yooka Laylee? It was meh at best. You remember these games incredibly fondly but they do not hold up today. It really really pains me to say this but a remake/remaster is not what we need. We need a new Banjo Kazooie game, but not done with 90's era mascot platform style game. We need an Action/Adventure title with Bear & Bird.
You laugh and mock SoT but have you played it recently? It's drastically changed from launch and it is now a better game for it.
I think it would be a good idea to remake some of rares games because kids who had not experienced the awesome world of N64 it would be an OPPORTUNITY for more sells and the fans will buy too I'm 12 and I'm officially saying this
There are Ports of Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie on the Xbox Live Arcade. Microsoft actually owns Rare, So it's highly unlikely that a remake will ever come out on a Non-Microsoft system.