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  • @J0HNJ0RDAN
    @J0HNJ0RDAN Місяць тому +134

    So..
    Devon + Ermes = Levan 😅

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +23

      exactly haha

    • @dfchang813
      @dfchang813 Місяць тому +18

      Not equal. They would beat him.

    • @costeavlad
      @costeavlad Місяць тому +13

      There is a problem with gaining weight as well. At 49 years old, his stomach cannot handle the abuse and 50-60 kg difference will always be too much, as long as Levan ( or anyone else) has a flop press.

    • @andreaceccherini4968
      @andreaceccherini4968 Місяць тому +6

      Actually ermes has been training some times like devon does, on top of his regular training so...

    • @edgaralanpoe2808
      @edgaralanpoe2808 Місяць тому +5

      But Levan is a little bit strong in every area of the fusion

  • @symz4665
    @symz4665 Місяць тому +77

    Devon's training is fine. He simply tried to pull someone 200lbs heavier than him who happens to be the strongest armwrestler of all time.

    • @RunForPeace-hk1cu
      @RunForPeace-hk1cu Місяць тому +7

      More like 100bs 😂😂😂
      Keep coping.
      It’s SHW, stop the excuses

    • @baseddepartment1645
      @baseddepartment1645 Місяць тому

      ​@@RunForPeace-hk1cu132lbs

    • @schwarzerTeufel88
      @schwarzerTeufel88 Місяць тому +12

      @@RunForPeace-hk1cu That is not what an excuse is. He gave an educated explanation. Levan said in a post-match interview himself that Devon weighs 120kg while he weighs 180kg which is a huge difference and the match would have looked differently if the difference in weight wasn't that big. Doesn't mean Devon would have definitely won.
      No excuses, simply analyzing why one person is much stronger than another

    • @bullinvginshop9011
      @bullinvginshop9011 Місяць тому +3

      @@RunForPeace-hk1cu132lbs. Levan weighed 50% more than Devon. Both amazing arm wrestlers.

    • @tobyd2171
      @tobyd2171 Місяць тому

      100% agree!!

  • @tallpaulhutchensjr.
    @tallpaulhutchensjr. Місяць тому +48

    I don't criticize a almost 50 year old feller at 265lbs that's a strong number 2 on the entire planet, I think he must be doing something right lol. Getting beat by a wayyyyy bigger wayyyy younger opponent to me doesn't make me think he's training wrong. There's always someone bigger and badder but that doesn't mean the other guy is doing it wrong, in my opinion anyways lol. I think Levan would have to be he's natural weight and Devon could train the same way and he would beat Levan. Or Devon would have to gain some serious weight which looks like is impossible for him. If Devon keeps training the same way and drops down to 115 and 105 and even maybe 95kgs, I think he wipes the floor with all of them training the same way

    • @DevexTRE
      @DevexTRE Місяць тому

      Ur a boy not a man

    • @virginccyy7645
      @virginccyy7645 Місяць тому +4

      He already beats anyone in the 115kg!

    • @tallpaulhutchensjr.
      @tallpaulhutchensjr. Місяць тому +4

      @@virginccyy7645 yea he still has the championship belt in the 115s. He just needs to get the belt in the 105s and potentially 95kgs lol

    • @LordofTheFallen
      @LordofTheFallen Місяць тому +3

      Thank you. Everyone acting like Devon being a dominant #2 in the world is somehow a bad thing is just silly.

    • @tallpaulhutchensjr.
      @tallpaulhutchensjr. Місяць тому

      @@LordofTheFallen yea definitely.. the ones that say he needs to retire couldnt beat Devon on his worst day lol

  • @justaguyfromreddit
    @justaguyfromreddit Місяць тому +48

    general gym strength is a must, especially for begginers

    • @kasavaman007
      @kasavaman007 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah gym bro

    • @edgaralanpoe2808
      @edgaralanpoe2808 Місяць тому +2

      For sure, Devon is very specialized and i don't think his training is applicable to other top puller because no one has arm so fucked up like his except Michael Todd

    • @hugohoeglund1424
      @hugohoeglund1424 Місяць тому

      @@edgaralanpoe2808 Devon's arm is in perfect health

    • @edgaralanpoe2808
      @edgaralanpoe2808 Місяць тому

      @@hugohoeglund1424 before stem cells, it surely not

  • @jjsjrs997
    @jjsjrs997 Місяць тому +29

    How are ppl questioning Devon's training after losing to Levan? Levan is the strongest aw in the history of the sport yet Devon, who is 130+ lbs lighter, still was able to compete against Levan. Devon is without a doubt the #2 in the world and he's done his job. Recency bias is crazy. There was no mistake or problem in Devon's training, its just Levan is Levan

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +5

      well, It's because of the way in which Devon lost. Got hand control, then lost through arm

    • @Guitarist19887
      @Guitarist19887 Місяць тому +1

      @@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes you’re right

    • @karolwojtya2915
      @karolwojtya2915 Місяць тому

      ​@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes the key thing is that he weighs only 120 kg and does not train the shoulder, biceps or lateral pressure, if he improved these aspects he would win

    • @zazagurgenidze7337
      @zazagurgenidze7337 Місяць тому +1

      @@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      Devon didn’t take his wrist, it was a setup that Levan didn’t resist. He wanted to show everyone the results of training on the flop press
      if he could take Levan's wrist in the first round, he would be able to take it in the remaining rounds

    • @meitwasnt6705
      @meitwasnt6705 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@zazagurgenidze7337you don't rven know what you're talking about. Go learn more about armwrestling and then rewatch the first match and tell me Levan didn't lose his wrist when he first tried to hit to the side.

  • @msdweldingfabrication7051
    @msdweldingfabrication7051 Місяць тому +154

    The biggest mistake was not training any side pressure

  • @dashcamcompilationswithcomment
    @dashcamcompilationswithcomment Місяць тому +14

    Auden should face Levan, when Levan turns 49😁

  • @serkanlunkaya1896
    @serkanlunkaya1896 Місяць тому +25

    I agree with you, and also I agree with Levan's recommendation about Devon. He needed more weight to beat him. Around 140 kg.

    • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
      @ConnoisseurOfExistence Місяць тому

      Devon said he tried everything to gain weight and he couldn't.

    • @pointbreak4490
      @pointbreak4490 Місяць тому

      @@ConnoisseurOfExistenceeverything apart from tracking calories 😂

  • @floppyboyo
    @floppyboyo Місяць тому +53

    His biggest mistake was not getting that georgian blood transfusion

    • @ntgr22
      @ntgr22 Місяць тому

      They actually put in him steem cells from Georgia 😂

    • @AbhishekVerma-sh9ct
      @AbhishekVerma-sh9ct Місяць тому

      Problem is the weight gap kid grow up😂

    • @GBValode
      @GBValode Місяць тому

      @@AbhishekVerma-sh9ct Nothing makes you sound grown up more than words: "kid grow up". Nice!

    • @floppyboyo
      @floppyboyo Місяць тому

      @@AbhishekVerma-sh9ct ew a troll gross

    • @justclip7697
      @justclip7697 Місяць тому

      ​@@AbhishekVerma-sh9ctbros being hostile for no reason

  • @SixSickCigs
    @SixSickCigs Місяць тому +67

    Doesn't train direct side pressure, doesnt train direct bicep or shoulder. So whenever he meets someone with an equal hand, he will lose every time because he lacks the arm power behind it.

    • @Pp-sr4cs
      @Pp-sr4cs Місяць тому +3

      There's only 1 equallish tho.

    • @Haikami
      @Haikami Місяць тому +5

      That didn't happen against Georgi

    • @SixSickCigs
      @SixSickCigs Місяць тому +12

      @Haikami yeah... because devons hand was superior

    • @Pp-sr4cs
      @Pp-sr4cs Місяць тому +3

      @@SixSickCigs It wasn't that much but either way Georgi's bi and side are not strong enough either.

    • @irvingdelahoz9390
      @irvingdelahoz9390 Місяць тому +4

      Only 1 person in the world, levan lol

  • @JalalKhan-mm3pv
    @JalalKhan-mm3pv Місяць тому +5

    I agree with Genadi when he said Levan hand was so thick that devon just couldn't get around his hand .

  • @Xayc__
    @Xayc__ Місяць тому +8

    How he is not maxing out his back pressure? He even kicks back his wrist during pronation lifts and still his pronation is rock solid. In my opinion in that lift his back pressure is limit and i would not compere it with Ermes 92kg back pressure, because Devon trains with weights that is 90% of his max or around that and his form is much better than Ermes' during his 92kg back pressure lift. I'm pretty sure with the belt perpendicular to the forearm he can't do that much, so difference is not that massive. Devon's back pressure is very strong and Levan said same thing, he needs more side pressure and he trains it as well, but againts Levan he needs much more side and maybe 10% more back pressure and even stronger wrist, because it was failing before the back pressure.

    • @karolwojtya2915
      @karolwojtya2915 Місяць тому

      he does side pressure at the same time, but doesn't focus too much on it

    • @oceanwaves83
      @oceanwaves83 Місяць тому +1

      Your back pressure lifts will be higher if you don't also have to pronate all that weight as well.
      Same with wrist rise.
      If Devon was able to lift 15 or 20% more on back pressure alone (not having to pronate or wrist rise), he could get a lot stronger in that lane.

  • @madspetersen5056
    @madspetersen5056 Місяць тому +5

    Theres nothing wrong with his training, hes just not taking as many steroids as all the other titans in the top of armwrestling.

    • @typicalwalrusk8424
      @typicalwalrusk8424 Місяць тому +3

      He definitely is except maybe Levan. He just doesn't respond to the asteroids as well as some other people.

  • @ANMIV517
    @ANMIV517 Місяць тому +2

    Agreed. He and Ermes should train together and strengthen each others weaknesses.

  • @Dmgolfer22
    @Dmgolfer22 Місяць тому +4

    His training is good. Arm is fine. His approach to the match maybe not. Him opening up and dropping to kings is NOT the thing to do with Levan. He neutralized Levan’s hand round 1 but didn’t advance. He needed to stay tight to his arm

  • @roybatty-
    @roybatty- Місяць тому +10

    I said it years ago, he needs a basic strongman circuit training. Some compound movements and hit his antagonistic muscle groups.

    • @oldironsides4107
      @oldironsides4107 Місяць тому +10

      lol. He’s 50. And one of the best to ever do it.
      He knows what he’s doing. Levan is special and is the best the sport has seen by far.

    • @karolwojtya2915
      @karolwojtya2915 Місяць тому

      ​@@oldironsides4107 Levan himself said that he needs side pressure strength, which Devon doesn't practice very hard

    • @FeralCompanions.
      @FeralCompanions. Місяць тому

      @@oldironsides4107 Sure. Imagine if he did lift weights like all the top guys do. Imagine if he had 15-20lbs or more of muscle on top of what he already has. The Levan match could have been very different. Not saying he would win, but it would have been a better fight for sure. Devon says he can't gain weight. You're never going to gain weight only working out one arm.

    • @g72236
      @g72236 Місяць тому

      ​​@@FeralCompanions.Could of, would of, should of. The reality is that Devon, at almost 2mt for 120ish kg, is a chicken. He should really gain at least 20-30 kg.

    • @FeralCompanions.
      @FeralCompanions. Місяць тому

      @@g72236 I agree with you. But that option is dead. He needed to start that years ago.

  • @johnboulanger807
    @johnboulanger807 Місяць тому +4

    If he were 20 years younger he could adapt. What he even accomplished at 48 is insane. Nobody under 40 could even appreciate what he has been able to achieve in the last year. You’ll understand when you get there.

    • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
      @ConnoisseurOfExistence Місяць тому

      He said that he was his strongest now. So no, he would never have defeated this version of Levan.

  • @ViniciusFarias
    @ViniciusFarias Місяць тому +3

    The problem is that training the elbow flexor requires much more energy and muscular capacity than what he is capable of providing being 49 in his situation. The rising and pronation lifts turn out to be much more efficient for him, although not enough to contest Levan's power. Besides, I don't think his riser was enough, Levan held the advantage there during the fight. Devon's pronation though was intact.

  • @Lunarpollo5622
    @Lunarpollo5622 Місяць тому +12

    4:56 hook training 3 😁

    • @nanthipat1
      @nanthipat1 Місяць тому

      Absolutely same he lose genadi

  • @sinclairj7492
    @sinclairj7492 Місяць тому +3

    The lack of bicep power prevented Devon not being able to transition and pin from a favorable position.

    • @tobyd2171
      @tobyd2171 Місяць тому

      Which arm wrestler owns a bicep power to beat levan??? None

  • @rushgush
    @rushgush Місяць тому +1

    the only reason why devon got. a stop at the start was because levans wrist was still sore … not because of devon’s strength

  • @chrisdavidson2810
    @chrisdavidson2810 Місяць тому +36

    I’m calling it now, Devon vs Levan 3 2027

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +6

      haha yea prob

    • @_Rezoxx_
      @_Rezoxx_ Місяць тому +8

      I think they will have a rematch 2025 or 2026 story didnt end

    • @fallenleaf24
      @fallenleaf24 Місяць тому

      If Devon adds the missing links in to his program then 100% as Levan is his ultimate test subject for his training.
      then on the next match he will have compensated knowing what he now knows.. I cant see him dropping this.. as this time he was CLOSE!
      really close!
      But what let him down will eat at him & he will have no choice but to adjust & fight back!

    • @ssteacup
      @ssteacup Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Bigramt
      @Bigramt Місяць тому +9

      Guys let it go
      Devon is getting older, he will NOT beat Levan
      Levan is only back from injury amd Devon was in the form of his life, wiping everyone other than Genadi. However, he was swatted aside 4-0 and is currently 0-10 in rounds vs Levan
      He will pull others at SHW, but Levan already owns him. Another fight is pointless. No matter how great Devon is, it's clear he is not the man to beat Levan

  • @titanirael9966
    @titanirael9966 Місяць тому +4

    Devon is most effective armwrestler in ratio to his weight. If Devon had ability to bulk up to 400 pounds then Levan has no chance. Show me one armwrestler to 250 pounds who can match Devon...

  • @LINSANEI
    @LINSANEI Місяць тому +2

    I remember Devon talking about this, he says that training any kind of side pressure hurts his elbow so he doesnt do those

    • @esrbin95
      @esrbin95 Місяць тому +1

      Yes but that was before. Shouldn't his elbows be mostly healed now?

    • @LINSANEI
      @LINSANEI Місяць тому

      @@esrbin95 maybe, but Devon not training side pressure might be because he still feels pain, and if you look at the way he pulls he never not once exposes his elbow so i guess that means he never recovered fully, but thats just what i think

  • @justaguyfromreddit
    @justaguyfromreddit Місяць тому +8

    levan was able to drag to his side because his pronation was intact. People underestimate levan's pronation.
    Should be noted that trying to train cupping with less than 10 reps is a suicide

    • @ancapgrandscribe9546
      @ancapgrandscribe9546 Місяць тому +4

      Well yeah and his side pressure was weak, Levan even said that, Devon could train elbow flexion all he wants, if he doesn't have the side pressure, he ain't gonna beat big side pressure guys like Levan.

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +2

      haha, yeah most arm wrestling movements feel terrible with low reps. unless isometric.

  • @snsdkbopper7819
    @snsdkbopper7819 Місяць тому +2

    Multi joint compound movements about twice a week for good recovery, Because training your back & chest, with rows, neutral grip pull-ups, push-ups & bench presses overloads and strengthens your biceps & triceps better than isolation movements, plus gives you the extra chest, shoulder & back power on the table, plus helps you gain quality weight, and yes he should should still do his key statics lifts, but supplement them with the key full range of motion compound lifts that I mentioned, Then I guarantee that he would be stronger than ever, including on the table.

  • @Brian_McWilliams
    @Brian_McWilliams Місяць тому +2

    I think his specialized training worked super well for gaining strength in the exact areas he needed it, however, a set amount of muscle CAN have a strength ceiling. One rep sub max isometric training can never add as much size as more traditional full range multi-rep training. I think Devon would be measurably better during his career if he used periodization and moved back and forth between heavy hypertrophic training, and his sub maximal isometric singles.
    🤔💪🏻🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @barnz008
    @barnz008 Місяць тому +3

    There's a kinetic chain at work here, not individual muscles doing more or less work than others. Bench press training for a pulling sport is useful to the degree it adds total mass to that chain.

    • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
      @ConnoisseurOfExistence Місяць тому

      Inside elbow rotation and triceps/shoulder press both use chest directly.

  • @diobrando7759
    @diobrando7759 Місяць тому +2

    Problem is Devon has no lats, no triceps,no delts.
    Justbicep and forearms and hands

  • @mm6705
    @mm6705 Місяць тому

    I fully agree. I hope Devon does the elbow flexor isolation training!

  • @typicalwalrusk8424
    @typicalwalrusk8424 Місяць тому +1

    Devon's lifts do target his elbow extension and side pressure to great extent. Look at his "pronation lifts", it's the arm that starts to open up before his hand, which means he certainly is already targeting his arm immensely. I am not sure if isolated Ermes style backpressure lift would improve Devon's arm strength enough to state to rival guys like Levan or Ermes (in arm power), as can be indicated from his pronation lifts. On the other hand, side pressure Devon definitely does directly train through the handle quite a bit, so I don't think there is much to improve on.
    Overall, I don't believe Devon training his elbow flexion through isolated back pressure style lift would improve his arm power significantly. Though who knows, implementing those new movements couldn't really harm his game because his hand (pronation/rising) is already elite of the elite, so deducting some time from hand training to isolated backpressure lifts could prove to be at least some-what effective.

  • @solusquinto3086
    @solusquinto3086 Місяць тому

    What people forget is that Devon got injured a while ago and had to change his technique entirely. His training is reflecting what he has to do in order to stay competitive on top of the food chain.

  • @esknor18
    @esknor18 Місяць тому +1

    I think his training style is accurate. He could add some exercises to increase his arm strength. I'm thinking in particular of side pressure/supination/bench.
    The problem that many people don't understand, and even devon, is that he's only been training in this way for 1 year and 10 months. So all the strength he's gained in that time hasn't yet reached his full potential. Just because he's able to lift +70kg in pronation doesn't mean it translates into a match. His body, his nervous system and his muscles still have to get used to all the strength he's gained. And that's also why he has very little stamina, because he's not used to generating so much force since his body has undergone relatively short training.
    I'm sure that in 2 years' time, he won't be the same. He'll have a lot more arm strength, a lot more endurance. All is about consistency if he switch his training he need time to acheive real results

  • @adusumproprium3801
    @adusumproprium3801 Місяць тому

    I think in round one Levan had the same problem as Denis has had in his matches, that his wrist flexion is just barely holding on and would go back if he decides to move to the side while his elbow flexor is chilling with like 50% effort. You can see Levan making a pretty good Denis impression by staring calmly his own hand while Devon is actually shaking in intensity trying to match the back pressure. Combine this with Devon's arm getting totally strecth out and Levan changing tactics in later rounds and it's easy to see that Devon didn't stand a chance.

  • @wesamshaghlil2017
    @wesamshaghlil2017 Місяць тому

    Yes, I agree 100%, and I want to add some things. I am not an armwrestler, but I have been doing bodybuilding and calisthenics for a good while, and I follow scientific studies on muscles and so on. However, I also love arm wrestling and have been watching it for a while, especially Devon. And yes, I agree with you. I have seen a lot of Devon matches and yes, many times even against people weaker than him I often see his arm opening, even if just a little, and he often resorts to the King’s Move because his arm is a little weak compared to the rest, so he resorts to putting more pressure on his hand, (like) cheating, for example, with the plank exercise (I will not go into depth), so for example with the plank when The abs becomes tired. You begin to subconsciously remove the load from the abdominal muscles and place it on the pelvic muscles (for example), and this is what I see happening with Devon. You see that sometimes his arm fails to defend or attack, so you see him resorting to his stronger muscles more such as the pronator muscle, the cup, etc...., so sometimes you see Devon can take the hand and still lose, for example against the flop wrist press ( Example his match against genadi ) even though he has complete control of the hand, but the strength of his elbow flexors is not enough ( i think ) again i am not an armwrestler, so I think he should pay more attention to it.

  • @harvey_weenstain8857
    @harvey_weenstain8857 Місяць тому +1

    imagine if Devon leveled up his back / side pressure _and_ went full Kyriakos Grizzly bloat lord maxx😳

  • @user-lj7ph3cw5t
    @user-lj7ph3cw5t Місяць тому +9

    ERMES WILL BECOME THE CHAMPION IN 5 YEARS MARK IT!!

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +6

      yeah I could see it. Maybe sooner

    • @user-fz2yz2yn1u
      @user-fz2yz2yn1u Місяць тому

      that statement is the same as me saying i will be 40 in 20 years :D Ermes alr was the champ

    • @SauronKarratt
      @SauronKarratt Місяць тому +3

      5 years Is too much pasta Time

    • @Lunarpollo5622
      @Lunarpollo5622 Місяць тому +1

      I don't think it will take that long tbh.

    • @SauronKarratt
      @SauronKarratt Місяць тому

      @@Lunarpollo5622 but Morozov Is more impressive than Ermes

  • @jamesdongvideos
    @jamesdongvideos Місяць тому

    How come you keep on saying elbow flexor instead of bicep? Is it a subtle difference?

  • @MARIOHAKAI
    @MARIOHAKAI Місяць тому +1

    We all know a third match is most likely imminent, the question is has Devon realized what it was rhat he was lacking? His abck pressure is 100% something he needs to work on, hie spronation and wrist were top notch

  • @rayseyfarth
    @rayseyfarth Місяць тому +1

    There was only one problem with his training: Levan

  • @MagnumMuscle1000
    @MagnumMuscle1000 Місяць тому +1

    Devon says he goes all in, but refused to put on enough body weight to increase his overall power. He needed to be 320 lbs at least to beat Levan. He should have gone on a cycle for several months and gotten huge. No one is beating Levan at 265 lbs.

  • @freddietheplayer
    @freddietheplayer Місяць тому +2

    Does everyone ignore the juice? Devon needs the same georgian juice 😂😅

  • @kyleelpel9402
    @kyleelpel9402 Місяць тому +2

    Devon is also 49 years old and on less gear than Levan.
    He will never be able to overcome a 15 year age gap + steroid gap. His strategy was to come in specialized to try to beat the overall stronger competitor.
    I think Devon is smart to focus on Heavyweight and give up on super heavyweight.
    A lot of this advice would be more true if he were in his 30s

    • @virginccyy7645
      @virginccyy7645 Місяць тому +1

      He knows to stay relevant in superheavy weight, he needs to take more gear than he is now!

    • @kyleelpel9402
      @kyleelpel9402 Місяць тому

      @@virginccyy7645 I agree

  • @DynomyteDewd91
    @DynomyteDewd91 Місяць тому +2

    Devon is good because he’s usually taller and has a longer arm than his opponent.
    Didn’t work with Levan. Levan’s arm is nearly as long as Devon’s and Levan’s arm is also more complete everywhere.
    If Devon was 6’0 feet or shorter he’d more than likely have to change his training style because it’s usually all predicated on hand and height with him.

  • @justinlanglais1026
    @justinlanglais1026 Місяць тому

    He could put the belt around his wrist so it only target is elbow flexer and he could also lift much heavier

  • @ricardocantu3831
    @ricardocantu3831 Місяць тому +1

    Levan is a gigantic mesomorph on peds. Devon is an ectomorph also on peds but his body is never going to react the same way. Plus he is almost 50. He trained perfect and did a great job. Levan is just a very large person worse technically but way too strong

  • @GiftedLover
    @GiftedLover Місяць тому

    Would it kill Devon to train Hang Cleans, Dead Lifts, and T-Bar Rows?
    A heavy Devon with a barrel back is a scary thought.
    Great channel, Love It!!!

  • @rolandsahlander2239
    @rolandsahlander2239 Місяць тому +1

    I think Devon trained everything. Why wouldn't he? But yeah, he needs more side preasure and arm. Also more fundamental strength and 10-20 kg bw. But he is 49 so it would require insane sacrifices. And even then he could only win if Levan stopped improving. I don't think Devon wants to. Instead he might keep improving slowly with the same regime and perhaps in 1-2 years he could feel up for it again with some better chances. Idk. Only thing now is who the heck except kurdecha could give him a fight? Genadi perhaps. Vut then what? He'll just smash everyone in 115.

  • @alexwenger9655
    @alexwenger9655 Місяць тому +2

    Devon simply doesnt have enough muscle to compete with Levan. Levan has 132lbs on Devon. It would take Devon years of training on gear to put on enough muscle to match Levan's level.

  • @YFun-ux5rs
    @YFun-ux5rs Місяць тому

    Devon’s hand + Ermes arm= Levan

  • @ericsavala4686
    @ericsavala4686 Місяць тому

    Also. Once Devon cracks open near 150°+, Levan leans in even more and puts all his bodyweight in top of his press or side pressure. So all that's holding is Devons small brachialis part of the forearm and long head outer bicep. Literally holding up like 100s of pounds of pressure instead of say Ermes who leans in and now it's shoulder, side pressure, bicep and leaned in Levan can no longer dump his whole body on top as efficient.

  • @tomvibing4631
    @tomvibing4631 Місяць тому

    I train as devon does, the only disadvantages is that you are vulnerable to supination (high hook) lucky for me I train my biceps very hard and also you are vulnerable to getting pressed (should or triceps press) apart from that you pretty much win from the setup itself, you can also transition to lowhand toproll and beat any hooks.

  • @nanthipat1
    @nanthipat1 Місяць тому

    I would love to see Hook Devon like he did it the first time but a rematch could be very different.

  • @slizrs2
    @slizrs2 Місяць тому

    Sometimes change things is the way.

  • @carpenterjim7906
    @carpenterjim7906 Місяць тому

    Ermes, Engin, Denis, and many other pro pullers told Devon to increase his weight and his pure back pressure to be able to stop Levan, but he didn't listen. But you don't need to be an elite puller to see that his only weakness at this point is his arm strenght. The reason he did well against Ermes, Denis, Georgi is because he could crack their wrists back and without them they were not able to access their side pressure. I hope he mixes his training up and becomes even stronger.

  • @CephuGaming
    @CephuGaming Місяць тому

    honestly I think where devon messed up is by trying to open top roll instead of hooking given that his hand was strong enough, he really should commit his frame, but he just didn't at all and I dont know why.

  • @brian6speed
    @brian6speed Місяць тому +1

    best to add typical weight lifting to armwrestling specific training.

  • @jessemurray9260
    @jessemurray9260 Місяць тому

    All valid points for Devon to consider, however, he likely doesn't have the structure to ever build up his elbow flexor and side pressure to beat a Levan. His pronation and rise are his 'ice breaker', after which his secret weapon of endurance allow him to drain his opponents. That seems to have been his best option and why he spends as long training table time. Avoiding the fatigue of direct work and general strength allows more focus on these attributes.

  • @Me-wk7dz
    @Me-wk7dz Місяць тому

    IMO elbow flexion + internal shoulder rotation is what he needed more of, and I suspect shoulder is the more significant of the two

  • @molaakk
    @molaakk Місяць тому

    His biggest issue was his weight, no matter how strong you are the weight will matter when going up against someone like Levan.

  • @SHUTDOORproduction
    @SHUTDOORproduction Місяць тому

    I think Devon is a lot closer than anyone including him thinks, he should give it another shot

  • @jamesestrada82
    @jamesestrada82 Місяць тому +4

    The problem with Devon’s training is that he’s not lifting a shit-ton of heavy ass weights like the Georgians. He was never going to beat a Hulk at the game of strength. It’s simple, common sense stuff. Hell, even little Irakli is huge compared to Devon…because he understands strength is the number 1 attribute needed once you get to the top. Table iQ, and trickery means nothing as we saw during the Devon/Levan match. Why do you think Leonidas was able to defeat School Bus? Simple…he’s the stronger man - with half the arm wrestling skill and iQ. Devon is by no means weak, but he needs to understand that in order to beat the bigger fish, he needs to bulk up, and lift that heavy iron. In fact, he should straight up go to Georgia, and train with those juggernauts for a month…really absorb their training/weight lifting regimen like a fucking sponge, and make some cool videos while doing it. Only then, will he understand what it’s truly going to take to attain victory over them. Let’s not forget, he still hasn’t beaten Genadi yet, so in my opinion Devon should be ranked #3 upon Genadi’s return.

    • @tommy_egan
      @tommy_egan Місяць тому +1

      I agree regarding Genadi. Devon and Genadi should have a rematch to sort out their rankings. However I think that even if Devon went to Georgia and trained with the Georgians and absorbed their knowledge he would revert back to his way of training. It seems that he is set in his ways and at his age there might not be enough time for him to reap the full benefit from the Georgian training.

    • @jamesestrada82
      @jamesestrada82 Місяць тому

      @@tommy_eganYou’re most likely correct, and I agree that Devon’s age, and the propensity to revert back to his old training methods would likely ensue haha. Would definitely be exciting to see what his full potential could be with proper weight training though, as he already has a killer physique/baseline to begin with. Oh well, like you said, that ship has probably sailed. Regardless, he’ll definitely rule the lower weight classes like a God if he really does drop back down.

  • @nathanielmuir5666
    @nathanielmuir5666 Місяць тому

    I've been saying this for a long time, totally agree

  • @Matthias-Bedard
    @Matthias-Bedard Місяць тому +1

    That and Needs to put on 100lb of muscle. That extra meat makes a massive difference. And at almost 50 that's not possible without cutting life super short.

  • @AhmadKhan-kb7dt
    @AhmadKhan-kb7dt Місяць тому

    Levan was just warming up. Devon didnt crcaked his wrist 😂.

  • @SweepTheLeg2023
    @SweepTheLeg2023 Місяць тому +1

    🤔 *He could have skipped training entirely.* "But Did You Die?" Creed vs Drago 3.

  • @nonacesool
    @nonacesool Місяць тому

    The sad part is levan is on another level and won't be challenged for years

  • @rotten2209
    @rotten2209 Місяць тому

    When having longer levers, Side pressure is not a style that a lean person can be great in. Devons APE is something like +4 if I remember from am older Juji video.

  • @developedpronator7
    @developedpronator7 Місяць тому +1

    What do you think about the many singles , that devon does?

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +3

      I think the singles worked, just maybe needed an additional lift or too.

    • @venkyramachandran6623
      @venkyramachandran6623 Місяць тому

      @@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      I think Devon needs to train compound movements. I think his weight gain issue could be attributed to a lack of hypertrophic stimulus. Having more muscle mass would allow more strength potential in areas such as lats, shoulders, triceps, biceps, and even legs

    • @venkyramachandran6623
      @venkyramachandran6623 Місяць тому

      @@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      When he gains weight, it all goes to his stomach because there is no hypertrophic stimulus for the major muscle groups. You aren’t going to magically put on muscle mass if u only train arm wrestling specific movements.

  • @brent2040
    @brent2040 Місяць тому

    Devon round one, I've got you right where you want me.

  • @jdchallenges4660
    @jdchallenges4660 Місяць тому

    Devon should watch this video

  • @zazagurgenidze7337
    @zazagurgenidze7337 Місяць тому

    Genadi also defeated the brilliant Devon. Devon - Todd. Devon 133kg. Genady - Devon. Genadi 138 kg. The difference between them is endurance. Georgi 165 kg. Corey West 200 kg. Kurdecha 165 kg. Zaur 170 kg. Devon is not number 2. To be number 2 he must win against Genadi. Jeri. and against the prepared Ermes. Previously, everyone said that weight and age doesn’t matter, now it turns out Devon is an old man with multiple sclerosis who thought he was competing in the Mindaugas category and not in the heavyweight category.Devon didn’t take his hand, it was a setup that Levan didn’t resist. He wanted to show everyone the results of training on the flop pess

  • @shadathulahmed2277
    @shadathulahmed2277 Місяць тому

    There’s no point in training solely your pronation, if you haven’t got the back pressure to match it. You can’t just take your opponents wrist using only pronation. This can only be done alongside the use of your back pressure. And this is where Devon was lacking. Yes, Levans wrist was cracked back, but only after he had gave it up.

  • @Wham0
    @Wham0 Місяць тому

    It was great, but he should have trained his centre table pronation just like Sandris Sedis does.

  • @GiftedLover
    @GiftedLover Місяць тому

    I'm confused, wasn't Devon's hand already the strongest link in his Kinetic chain.

  • @user-oy2nk5xc6n
    @user-oy2nk5xc6n Місяць тому

    У его подъема на пронацию есть огромный минус. Когда он выполняет подъем перекинув ремень через кисть, ремень слишком облегает ее и на лучевую мышцу приходится большая нагрузка а на пронатор недостаточная. Нужно между кистью и ремнем положить что нибудь чтобы увеличить плечо подъема.

  • @mrfrupo
    @mrfrupo Місяць тому +1

    people just don't get it. Hanging 160lbs off your one arm is not light weight for your bicep. That's actually insane weight for one arm. Most people couldn't even hold that with both arms.

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +2

      very true, but Ermes did 200 ;)

    • @mrfrupo
      @mrfrupo Місяць тому

      @@PerformanceEnhancingPancakes yeah, and Devon owned Ermes. If Devon would have been armwrestling me it would have looked about the same.

  • @StevenRayW
    @StevenRayW Місяць тому

    Considering his age and style, I think focusing only on the pronator was actually the right choice. After all, he's managed to become the legit No. 2 with his pronator training. Even if he'd devoted some time to working on his side/back pressure and biceps, it most likely wouldn't have made much of a difference anyway -- Levan is just too much for him.

  • @Tacet137
    @Tacet137 Місяць тому

    There is also the rational approach: realizing that no matter how Devon trained he wouldn't win with Levan anyway. Unless he could magically gain 25kg

  • @ig000r
    @ig000r Місяць тому

    The biggest mistake is Davon's delusion that he's strong and good enough to beat Levan.

  • @DeleteDisputes
    @DeleteDisputes Місяць тому

    The biggest mistake was weighing 100 pounds less and being much older. I don't think any amount of training would have changed the gap between them unless Devon could gain 50+ pounds

  • @casey7411
    @casey7411 Місяць тому

    He would never have the arm power to match Levan, so it might've been finishing returns for him to train arm power anyways

  • @keelanenns4548
    @keelanenns4548 Місяць тому

    Devon should not drop weight. We need him in the supers. There is no one to challenge him in the heavyweight category at all. Genadi and Vitaly would be great matches for Devon

  • @johannhurst5734
    @johannhurst5734 Місяць тому +1

    Levan is 180kg and Devon is 120kg. That's 50% more body weight. Could the best 80 kg arm wrestler beat Devon? There is a reason why there are weight classes in strength sports.
    And you can't gain quality weight (sic) by training only your forearms.

  • @AdamLighter1
    @AdamLighter1 Місяць тому

    I think this is the first time I disagree with you PEP. Devons back pressure was PLENTY enough in the round one when he won the height, thus also kept his cup. In all of the other rounds, Devon lost height and thus lost cup and subsequently his back pressure was of course not enough. He lost because of rise, not because of back pressure. His training is good for him, if he added isolated back pressure then it would take from his rise and pronation lift significantly due to increased volume, so he would have to lower volume on pronation and rise.
    Levans hand is too big and gives him a huge advantage and rise department. Anyway you look at it, Levans rise is just otherwordly.

  • @naka-YAYA-plaza
    @naka-YAYA-plaza Місяць тому

    We ever gona get a face reveal PEP? I already have my bets on what I think you look like

  • @jtan4213
    @jtan4213 Місяць тому

    He don't do much weight and gym training outside of the usual arm wrestling training that's the problem. His strict bicep curl is only 70kg and bench press 130kg.

  • @heyitsmetrousers4399
    @heyitsmetrousers4399 Місяць тому

    The age gap plus the training regime plus the steroid and supplement intake and plus the frame size of this man is impossible for devon.

  • @Sam-bd3qr
    @Sam-bd3qr Місяць тому

    He needs to put weight on and live as a 300+lbs for awhile he cant just put that much weight on in a few months he needs to live at that weights for a few years thats what Id do if i was him and try again at 50years old spend the next few years living at 300+lbs and he would do better honestly if he could get to 330 would open more doors for him, generating momentum starts at the feet he also doesnt weight enough when hes dropping his body to the ground. Maybe if he was 6foot at 260 he could be better but 260 at 6'6 is too light for levans frame

  • @sliqu7946
    @sliqu7946 Місяць тому

    You forgot that he also needs to gain 130lbs. Levon is huge. Devon killed every heavyweight except for this monster. Don’t get me wrong Devon is my hero.

  • @th-x7254
    @th-x7254 Місяць тому

    I think Levan has no defects except when he lies down to finish off his rival weighing about 70kg more.

  • @HumptyHampi
    @HumptyHampi Місяць тому

    Everyone’s a general after the battle…
    Devon listened to his body and dod his best. I believe that the weight difference is way too significant against Levan.

  • @AgentOfLogos
    @AgentOfLogos Місяць тому

    Devon honestly just made a big mistake in round one by fighting that press. He shouldn't have fought in the open arm position for so long, he essentially did a > 100% max totally opened up for a few seconds. That was enough to knock his power completely out.

  • @DevonLarrattFeet
    @DevonLarrattFeet Місяць тому +15

    I tell you the problem... problem is Devon is 120kg and Levan 180... theres no other problem :)

  • @dee696
    @dee696 Місяць тому +1

    i disagree with you buddy... if levan was as the same weight than levan,that would change everything

  • @alias3549
    @alias3549 Місяць тому

    there is no problem Devon is the number 1 human in the world, then there is Levan above all which is a monster.

  • @MonsterHunterPV
    @MonsterHunterPV Місяць тому

    A lot of actual arm wrestlers said this too....Devon didnt bulk up properly. Bro was 260-270ish lbs facing Levan! All the pro PED users around him couldve help him BULK to 300lbs of arm wrestling muscle, then we wouldve had a proper match. He got to reliant on his own ways and shouldve listened to those already telling him his weaknesses.

  • @brettdaprile6595
    @brettdaprile6595 Місяць тому

    Maybe will see Devon with 25 inch python’s next time lol

  • @demianseale501
    @demianseale501 Місяць тому

    Devon trains the most intelligently of all of them. That’s how he’s able to compete at such a high level. If he did Levan’s training he’d be nowhere near the top.

  • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
    @ConnoisseurOfExistence Місяць тому

    There are no issues with Devon's training. He simply lacks the potential to beat Levan.