base player from NA here, ran with Unorthodox, Savior and Wovian clans - i miss the PUG days with Matrix, Joker, Fire, Mith, Ransom and pr0 - and when waiting for PUGs we would just sit in OFH for hours lol the nostalgia is wildddd :')
Came here because of nostalgy for the game I played like more then 5 years ago a whole lot. I'm not disappointed, you play good. A lot of playing safe and respect for the opponents moves here from both of you.
@@ulzzangloverxD not trying to sound disrespectful but game has higher bar of competition when more players are at it. This game isn't at it's highest.
@@dontblamepeopleblamethegov559 You do realize this replay is from a decade ago? These two are top players, no matter what era you look at. Few people played base, competitive jka. Most noobed around on modded fun servers.
Bros, i miss these times. I was on this dueling stage many times as well. Is the game still alive at least a bit? I wanna duel some more again. I just realised how i miss it
Knew a guy, his nickname was Nameless. He was one of Stormriders clan members. These guys in the video are ok, but not even half skilled as he was, never met such skilled one. He was unbeatable literally, whatever you are trying to do, he would jump and land with saber right in your head and take all hp with one blow most of the time. never ever have seen him losing in a duel
@@bryanf6638 I wish lol. Ok believe me or not, simply noone could take him out in a duel. He was a baser and so skilled one.. I tried a few times he just takes out people in 2-3 hits hitting hard right in head during jumps. I just have no idea how it happened I played this game for a few years, had some teachers also, clans, fights, but never reached or figured out how he did that.
@@lacanister9001the player u are referring to is one of these pro players though haha Nameless was just his hidden alias but i'm pretty sure many ppl knew of him as one of the well known pros
If you keep proper range a parry will never hit you, and then the parrier is open to get hit, it's not a good technique at top level besides extremely rarely, parry spam is easy to counter
when your at any decent level you just bait your opponent with different air timings to be less precidcable. the best players adapt instantly to any playstyle so you need to mix up your stuff like that. noobs will never understand this. its not random moves. its more like controlled chaos with complex mechanics behind the curtain. its the most complex star wars dueling game on the market to this day
Yuck, I remember 20+ years ago when the exploit of spamming the mouse left-right was discovered. Completely ruined the elegant combat system. Instead of risk-reward movement where you would do damage at the risk of taking some although less, now people just shook their hands like sudden onset parkinsons giving an instant kill from full health. Unfortunately back then games didn't typically get ongoing patches. Turned into a contest of who could shake their hand fast enough on the slightest touch. We can all watch this video and see how disappointing it comes across, its like viewing a counterstrike spinbotter toggling on and off. What a shame this remained in the game. I say this as someone who for many, many years was in a dominant clan and won thousands of clan matches (ladder and tournament) but refused to degrade myself with that exploit. We were able to win because we practised regularly and honed our skills, while the exploit abusers became so reliant upon it that their core mechanics suffered. However there were a few clans that were both highly skilled and bug abusers, they made it extremely damaging to win but all the more rewarding when we did.
@@angrywolfjr7164 yeah people play like they're going to lose their soul if they fail even in non competitive modes people have started to play like this It made keeping up in multiplayer a second full-time job so now I just play single player games I enjoy such as the Jedi Knight franchise
Try the JoF server, the clan has forms that are taught to members (they're just called forms for flavour, it's actually practical playstyles that are competitive like aggressive red style, defensive red style, aggressive medium and so on) which emphasise aggressive play and less of the boring, passive stuff you see on base.
@@heresjonny666 You have no idea about base if you think all they do is playing passively. Play a pug and you will see people playing very agressively. If someone plays like a chicken or a predator has nothing to do with the mod or game mode.
@@gruntalot1 lmao thats why jka has like 2 players dueling. Jka dueling is a jump nudge fest that has nowhere near the complexity of mb2 or OJP for sabering
Played MB2 for a bit, the saber combat is trash, for pussies who have 0 skill in the base game and can't evade one swing from the opponent, that's why it has a built in block.
@@praedonius9693 I never poked.. to this day. I continue fighting the proper way.. and killing them pesky ones.. Although.. there are no pesky ones left.. i just fight on my server with my friends..
JA+ reduces the power of things like wiggle quite significantly, try the JoF server. If you join the clan there are competitive playstyles taught that are aggressive and more varied than base, eschewing most of the stuff that causes passive play from the practicing/learning process. Much more fun.
@heresjonny666 me and a few friends used to play base but with some special rules. saber blocking was disabled, blasters were allowed, but saber kills earned double points. it required you to be able to swap between different weapons and force powers very fast so you could get an easier kill.
These guys are amazingly bad and clearly don't even understand that there's a parry mechanic in the game. I didn't notice a leap, a lunge, an overhead swipe, a back attack. They didn't utilize a single single ability to catch their opponent off guard, it's all jumping and camera manipulation (which should have never existed.)
@@FMMAGE What do you need wallruns for? They are mostly fluff. Left+Right-Click move is a kata. People barely use it because it locks you in a place for several seconds and you get punished easily. It's a very risky move.
JA+ duels from people not trying to min/max passive play look a lot more interesting and fun, try checking out JoF server and duelling some of the master guardian+ rank members.
BWN network here fro me.. KoP Nalukai - Shinobi chekcing in.. movie duels and movie battle duels aint no joke gettign clapped left and right even by NPCs
most noobs cant even replicate any of those jump attacks. yea skill must be boring. jka is the most skilled and complex saber melee game ever made on the best engine for any multiplayer game. not even cs 1.6 could compete
The game is the greatest star wars jedi saber fighter/multiplayer/first person and third person shooter/ game ever to exist and still game play is leagues ahead of present games just there gameplay is trash
base player from NA here, ran with Unorthodox, Savior and Wovian clans - i miss the PUG days with Matrix, Joker, Fire, Mith, Ransom and pr0 - and when waiting for PUGs we would just sit in OFH for hours lol the nostalgia is wildddd :')
I lived on OFH and any of the other BWN servers
Came here because of nostalgy for the game I played like more then 5 years ago a whole lot.
I'm not disappointed, you play good. A lot of playing safe and respect for the opponents moves here from both of you.
These are top players. Saying "they were good" is kind of a memeish.
@@ulzzangloverxD not trying to sound disrespectful but game has higher bar of competition when more players are at it. This game isn't at it's highest.
@@dontblamepeopleblamethegov559 You do realize this replay is from a decade ago? These two are top players, no matter what era you look at.
Few people played base, competitive jka. Most noobed around on modded fun servers.
@@ulzzangloverxD u are right that they always were good players, but this match was from 2020
@@warkosmo How do you know it is from 2020? I doubt they are still playing and ESL doesn't have a JKA section anymore.
Bros, i miss these times. I was on this dueling stage many times as well. Is the game still alive at least a bit? I wanna duel some more again. I just realised how i miss it
The game is still living and breathing
high level vertical footsies, where one touch can mean death, I respect it
abit too slow paced for my liking with the strong style.
nice convo
Razor thin margin there
Knew a guy, his nickname was Nameless. He was one of Stormriders clan members. These guys in the video are ok, but not even half skilled as he was, never met such skilled one. He was unbeatable literally, whatever you are trying to do, he would jump and land with saber right in your head and take all hp with one blow most of the time. never ever have seen him losing in a duel
😂 I'm assuming you're Nameless?
@@bryanf6638 I wish lol. Ok believe me or not, simply noone could take him out in a duel. He was a baser and so skilled one.. I tried a few times he just takes out people in 2-3 hits hitting hard right in head during jumps. I just have no idea how it happened I played this game for a few years, had some teachers also, clans, fights, but never reached or figured out how he did that.
@@lacanister9001the player u are referring to is one of these pro players though haha Nameless was just his hidden alias but i'm pretty sure many ppl knew of him as one of the well known pros
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Hilarious comments here... Jerdor is a huge player, same for rzr i guess.
from a noob perspective. he spins like crazy and his yellow is just pure spamfest with no aim
@@user-ry3um7ti6p XDXDXDXDXDXDXD i died
Aha this checks all that I like
Perhaps a new game/community for me
lol using scripts for fanning in a esl cup? how is this allowed?
amazing skill
why doesn't anyone use parry? is it forbidden?
parry is always semirandom and very ping unfriendly on any level of play. when youre any good you just dont want to relly on samirandom crap too much.
If you keep proper range a parry will never hit you, and then the parrier is open to get hit, it's not a good technique at top level besides extremely rarely, parry spam is easy to counter
footwork and poke control looks really bad from Jrrr perspective. hits like a truck but moves like a brick even today :)
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The first one lost to the high ground
the skill level went down since this game was popular not one single aerlial hit they dont know how to predict the opponents movements
or they just know how and when to jump to not get aired
when your at any decent level you just bait your opponent with different air timings to be less precidcable. the best players adapt instantly to any playstyle so you need to mix up your stuff like that. noobs will never understand this. its not random moves. its more like controlled chaos with complex mechanics behind the curtain. its the most complex star wars dueling game on the market to this day
@@FMMAGE there were multiple aerial hits, even kills
Yuck, I remember 20+ years ago when the exploit of spamming the mouse left-right was discovered. Completely ruined the elegant combat system. Instead of risk-reward movement where you would do damage at the risk of taking some although less, now people just shook their hands like sudden onset parkinsons giving an instant kill from full health. Unfortunately back then games didn't typically get ongoing patches.
Turned into a contest of who could shake their hand fast enough on the slightest touch. We can all watch this video and see how disappointing it comes across, its like viewing a counterstrike spinbotter toggling on and off. What a shame this remained in the game.
I say this as someone who for many, many years was in a dominant clan and won thousands of clan matches (ladder and tournament) but refused to degrade myself with that exploit. We were able to win because we practised regularly and honed our skills, while the exploit abusers became so reliant upon it that their core mechanics suffered. However there were a few clans that were both highly skilled and bug abusers, they made it extremely damaging to win but all the more rewarding when we did.
Quite interesting, the whiners in the chat can pick up some skills.
Just whining in the chat, because they are not at this skill level.
You need to get a life if you feel the need to get skilled on JKA ESL where you earn hardly any money unless you're a 10-year-old.
Had way more thrilling duels on KR server than this slugfest.
I always thought the pvp was boring, just mfs spamming the heavy attacks. No exchange.
Unlike Mordhau you manip on windup cause the wep is always a hurt box
There is a reason I prefer the single player to this game high level play just looks and feels so boring
I agree, same thing with league of legends, e sports play so safe it's super boring
@@angrywolfjr7164 yeah people play like they're going to lose their soul if they fail even in non competitive modes people have started to play like this
It made keeping up in multiplayer a second full-time job so now I just play single player games I enjoy such as the Jedi Knight franchise
Try the JoF server, the clan has forms that are taught to members (they're just called forms for flavour, it's actually practical playstyles that are competitive like aggressive red style, defensive red style, aggressive medium and so on) which emphasise aggressive play and less of the boring, passive stuff you see on base.
@@heresjonny666 You have no idea about base if you think all they do is playing passively. Play a pug and you will see people playing very agressively.
If someone plays like a chicken or a predator has nothing to do with the mod or game mode.
@@ulzzangloverxD *shrug* I've yet to see a baser who didn't play passively and just hope people run into their swings.
Basejka dueling is so kek compared to Movie Battles 2 [not to take away from these guys at all btw]
Movie Battles 2 is for down syndrome kids with autism, people who cant play JKA go to mb2 cos it's easier.
@@gruntalot1 lmao thats why jka has like 2 players dueling. Jka dueling is a jump nudge fest that has nowhere near the complexity of mb2 or OJP for sabering
@@gruntalot1 mb2 easier xd
Played MB2 for a bit, the saber combat is trash, for pussies who have 0 skill in the base game and can't evade one swing from the opponent, that's why it has a built in block.
anyone can get good at mb2 dueling, jka and jko dueling is like natural selection.
All i see is poking and spinning noobs..
basejk dueling in a nutshell
@@praedonius9693 I never poked.. to this day. I continue fighting the proper way.. and killing them pesky ones.. Although.. there are no pesky ones left.. i just fight on my server with my friends..
poke is just a mitigation tool for quake 3 engine netcode. spinning is for retarded wannabe good noobs like Jrrr
This is why on multiplayer this game is stupid. This technique with POKE... its look and feel idiotic
JA+ reduces the power of things like wiggle quite significantly, try the JoF server. If you join the clan there are competitive playstyles taught that are aggressive and more varied than base, eschewing most of the stuff that causes passive play from the practicing/learning process. Much more fun.
git gud
@@heresjonny666 no
@heresjonny666 me and a few friends used to play base but with some special rules. saber blocking was disabled, blasters were allowed, but saber kills earned double points. it required you to be able to swap between different weapons and force powers very fast so you could get an easier kill.
@@heresjonny666 cap 🧢
boring
git gud
@@deadlyqueen you have to admit these fights look retarded
These guys are amazingly bad and clearly don't even understand that there's a parry mechanic in the game. I didn't notice a leap, a lunge, an overhead swipe, a back attack. They didn't utilize a single single ability to catch their opponent off guard, it's all jumping and camera manipulation (which should have never existed.)
'amazingly bad'. These guys would destroy you without even breaking a sweat.
i also barely see any wallrun, also 0 left click + right click combo (my favourite move).
@@FMMAGE What do you need wallruns for? They are mostly fluff.
Left+Right-Click move is a kata. People barely use it because it locks you in a place for several seconds and you get punished easily.
It's a very risky move.
camera manipulation? :D youre just a noob, always was and always will be. for every winner there will be a loser and here you are.
Yeah no, they know there's a parry mechanic lmao. They also know if they tried to parry spam they'd get killed fast
And people tried saying bf2 lightsaber duels was worse than this🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ this literally looks like kids swinging around glowly sticks
for eveyrone ur message looks like this:
im young and never played jedi academy
@@Lim1s4u 100% correct
JA+ duels from people not trying to min/max passive play look a lot more interesting and fun, try checking out JoF server and duelling some of the master guardian+ rank members.
@@heresjonny666 no
These guys just suck when people are actually good at the game the fights look really good
BWN network here fro me.. KoP Nalukai - Shinobi chekcing in.. movie duels and movie battle duels aint no joke gettign clapped left and right even by NPCs
They were doing the same move my this game look boring as hell I play it now and would destroy these players they suck
most noobs cant even replicate any of those jump attacks. yea skill must be boring. jka is the most skilled and complex saber melee game ever made on the best engine for any multiplayer game. not even cs 1.6 could compete
The game is the greatest star wars jedi saber fighter/multiplayer/first person and third person shooter/ game ever to exist and still game play is leagues ahead of present games just there gameplay is trash