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Jedi Outcast is one of the worst Star Wars game I ever played. You like the level design, are you serious? JO levels were a series of uninspired empty grey corridors and the puzzles made no sense with awful backtracking. Have you even played the Naboo level? What did you like about it, did you like the endless flat swamps, the green and grey hue throughout, the polygons the size of your screen, the enemy sniping you from unseen positions with pin point accuracy? There was nothing positive about this game and it was miles under Dark Forces II.. Maybe it’s a nostalgia bias or maybe it’s to generate clicks but I find it a bit misleading to tell them Jedi Outcast is such a great game when it’s not, because people may buy this game because of your review and they will 100% be disappointed. Jedi Outcast is not a good game and even back then, as a GameCube player, it looked really unfinished and last gen. Do not buy Jedi Outcadt, there is a reason it was poorly received. Also be careful with nostalgia reviews, these are not impartial review, the reviewer usually fails to cover any of the negatives about the game and there are PLENTY
My first time playing this game back in the day I chose the light side ending due to the insane amount of respect and admiration I have for master katarn. I did not want to disappoint him
Katarn himself was extremely close to falling for the dark side. I think he even briefly was a dark jedi in Mysteries of The Sith. After he was redeemed, he was terrified and renounced his connection to force, returning to his mercenary ways which is why he has nothing but blaster in the beginning of Jedi Outcast. He if anyone would not be disappointed because he knows the tremendous temptation of the dark side first hand.
I chose the dark side ending because I think a story in which Master Katarn has to chase down his former student & defeat them or bring them back to the light side is more interesting
Great video, but you focused heavily on single player and payed almost no attention to multiplayer, but the latter is truly what makes jka such an amazing game. First of all, there is an active game community which hosts events, does cooperative missions together, makes jka art etc. Second of all, the combat is really fun, complicated and has an insanely high skill cap, I mean you can play it for years and still stay a beginner. Other than that, I love the video, thanks for bringing attention to Jedi Academy!
Thank you. I did that for a few reasons. 1) I didn't want to make this video too long. 2) The popularity/population of the game is a verrrrry small fraction of what it used to be and most people in this age won't be interested in the multiplayer aspect. I fully agree, the multiplayer made this a Perfect game. I used to play this game religiously during it's peak. I was even part of an Australian clan, used to be a trainer and was a mod as well. Unfortunately the game's population died off pretty hard a year or two after it's release. It is now extremely low and I've more or less moved on from the Multiplayer. Most, if not everyone won't ever get to experience the passion and community the game had during its peak. It truely was something special and once in a lifetime experience. I still remember when JA+ was first announced and most/all servers switched to it. It was awesome, especially the customization. I'm fully aware of Movie Battles and Movie Duels mods but haven't had the chance/time to try them out. Fully agree on the skill cap. The game has the one of the most technically complex gameplay in existance. It was absolutely brutal playing on US servers with a ping of 250+ but i somehow managed and was quite skilled. Doing something as simple as "Lightsaber Fanning" was annoying because most hits wouldn't register at that ping. Anyways, Jedi Academy was a massive part of my childhood and it's something i'll never forget. No problems! 👍
@@AnvilGaming true, the popularity is very low, the playerbase is around 400-500 players if not including movie battles, but the game has been evolving all these years community wise. I am talking about my clan Jedi of Freedom right now. We got around 180 active members and a pretty full server pretty much every day. What's the difference between playing League of Legends with millions of players and jka if you know just a few people from this huge playerbase in LoL? The rest is the same with the exception that you won't find players in the mornings. You can play with lots of different folks in jka in the afternoon, there are constant updates and changes to the game (eternaljk) and the clan, there are tournaments, a hundred different events from jousting and sieging with medieval swords and bows to tennis, MOBA, spaceship racing etc., you name it. To me it looks like jka is at its actual peak right now.
@JariahxSynn look up ejk mod for JKA or external jedi knight mod. You can get the whole game for free with mods and fixes needed with like just one download from a few different websites..
30:29 here's a lil tid bit you might have not noticed about force sense, basically no matter what level it is the ability will increase the accuracy of any weapon to 100%. 31:17 for mind trick there's actually 4 levels instead of 3, the 4th level allows you control any NPC (even jedi/sith characters), it more or less works like the mouse droid control section on Kejim in Jedi Outcast. However in order to get it to level 4 you gotta use setMindTrick 4 in console. Also in regards to saber styles, for the single bladed lightsaber there's 2 more additional styles that are exclusive to Tavion and Desann (he's reused from Outcast much like Jan and Lando but lacks any voicelines), just do addsaberstyle desann or tavion and gg ez
JA is personally one of my favorite Star Wars games ever, next to Battlefront II (2005). I will say that nostalgia plays a large role in it, because I know it has several flaws. Lightsaber combat is great, even if later enemies are tougher, and guns get completely shafted because of it since saber users will block 95-100% of your shots. There are more linear levels than before (Though some are a bit less so, like Taspir, Vjun, and Korriban), which departs from the more exploration and puzzle-based map design of the older titles, so I rarely get lost, whereas Jedi Outcast had some head-scratching moments (even if one would call it an outdated level design). The story is definitely a lot weaker until you near the finale, even if i think the more episodic level narratives had their own merit. As a kid, it was like playing through a Saturday morning cartoon, where there were little bite-sized adventures, with a larger plot surfacing now and then. As an adult, I see it more as an epilogue to Kyle's story, rather than a whole new one (since you're his apprentice, and it ties up Tavion), which I don't think is entirely bad. Yeah, a cult trying to ressurect an evil Sith ghost sounds wierd, but I like it because of how a lot of Legends content operated up to that time. Jaden's novels (Crosscurrent and Riptide) are just as wierd, with evil Sith clones and more. I think JA and JO stand on equal footing, and it depends whether you want the more story driven JO or the more mechanics and adventure driven JA. Multiplayer is definitely a highlight of the game because of these mechanics, and that's why it has a cult following to this day, with mods still in development like Movie Battles/Movie Duels. I've played the game for years and I'm still not very good against other players because of the high skill cap. Personally I had an odd love for Capture the Flag. tldr; I wouldn't quite agree that Jedi Academy is a perfect game, it has plenty of flaws, but it's still a high entry in terms of Star Wars titles. (also yeah Rosh is annoying but he's kinda supposed to be, even in a very cheesy and obvious way). Other games have better stories, but mechanically the game is very strong.
The fighting in singleplayer is heavily gimped due to the fact that the later enemies' AI blocks and dodges everything to such an extent you literally have to cheese it with guard crushing attacks or goomba stomping and then getting in as many hits as possible while the bastards are down. It's why the dark side final boss might be my favorite one ever - he's got his own load of bullshit, sure, but he isn't perfectky blocking and dodging everything you throw out, which makes for some absolutely thrilling duels.
@@TheCakeIsNotLie You're right, but on the other hand you can use Force grip on them and throw them off a cliff, when they would have to carry cable hooks to escape (you too) or launch themselves up without touching the ground. They also wouldn't have to be as tough, and you would have to be wearing some Force-imbued armor.
Nah you just sucked at the campaign, the whole point is that you won't be able to fight the force users without using your force buffs. The reason you think the campaign is harder is because the people you faced weren't taking the duels seriously and were worse at the game than you are.
My favorite thing about Academy is the direct connection it has to KOTOR. Crazy to explore Ragnos’ tomb in KOTOR only to return to Korriban in a different game with Luke Skywalker and Kyle Katarn. The whole campaign is just awesome fan service with really fun fps mechanics.
I chose Force Lightning for regular enemies and Force Choke in order to throw hostile force users screaming to the bottomless abyss right next to me. I really hope Fallen Order 2 brings us those powers! Why not use them because it is mere ten years since Order 66. That is another way of saying there will be no snobbish, sanctimonious jedi master telling us "Hey! That stuff belongs to the dark side! Knock it off right now!" like there was in Jedi Academy.
You really mentioned something there: unneccessary grind! I think it is because in theearly 2000s they measured how many units were sold. Now a days they also measure how many minutes you spend inside the game (as all games require a connection to the internet) so they can tell the executes "Look how many active players we have!" I miss the simpler times!
Timeless games indeed. I replayed Jedi outcast not long ago and didn't know that jedi academy had all these mod made for it. Thanks for the links you left
This game came out in the exact same year as KOTOR and that's probably the reason why it kinda went under the radar and it's not quite as well remembered as other SW games from that age. After all if you were gonna get one Star Wars game, you were most likely gonna get KOTOR in that year.
Hell, The story doesnt tie in with much of the star wars lore, and can tell its own story, fresh from the ground up. I think its one of the best star wars stories ever told.
15 years of multiplayer and clan wars (with some pauses) This game bring memories guys... Still going with Movie Battles 2 mod, if you dont know it be sure to check it guys!
Let's be real, the MAIN reason this game was so good was cause its an absolute power trip. You have the power, the force, its abilities so the feeling of using them is what makes it special.
Jedi Academy is one of my favorite games, and in my opinion it has the best melee combat in games so far, but the Force powers are not too impressive. Remedy's CONTROL has the best telekinesis so far in my opinion. And fighting against humanoid gunners is not much fun, it should be like in Metal Gear Rising, where human gunners are cannon fodder and the main threats are robots and sword wielder cyborgs. In Jedi Academy the main threats would be military vehicles, robots and Force users with lightsabers.
Unfortunately, I think Kyle Katarn is non-canon stuff as of the moment I was typing this message (timestamp for this message is 16th February 2023 so dont roast me if Disney changes their mind tomorrow, folks).
@@FreelancerCZ One possible way of doing it would be a remake or remaster of games such as Dark Forces, Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy and/or Mysteries of The Sith with the protagonist being, of course nobody else but Kyle. Could be even implemented as open world RPG or game with RPG-like features where you could return to any previous planet whenever you feel the desire to do so with mercenary stuff, such as bounty hunting, being one of Kyles primary means of earning credits. (Of course assassinations, thefts, extortions, gangster stuff and other unethical things would not be recommended if you want a light side ending). Hope Disney could consider doing that. Would also love larger selection of weapons such as Rebel Alliance rifle and/or old clone trooper issue rifle that would be good against both, organic AND droidic enemies (some weapons you could not scavenge but have to purchase with credits because killing friendlies would not be recommended) and also opportunity to turn your light saber red if you choose dark side.
Rosh being a tutorial at the first level is a great mehanic, but the fact you prefer Jedi Outcast in wich the game would never tell you what to do, and you would spend 10 hours killing Rosh to try to make him cross the river until you accidently throw your saber and hits the tree is INSANE! Like the tube in Artus Prime that you got to catch under the bridge... It was torture.
Agreed this game is number 1. I could slide a hair between this & KOTOR for sheer fun but this game has insane replay value. One gripe with the game you didn't mention, how some saber enemies will "cheat" by using moves/techniques not available to their saber form, giving them an unpredictable advantage.
Thanks for the content and the links. I was curious about controller support which I see is available. I can’t wait to try this with a few of the listed mods. Thanks again!
and serioulsy Id always only do the saber cheat to make the sabers act like real lightsabers so you could chop everybody up and the full force and saber skills cheat and then Id play on the hardest difficulty to make it real as possible. I only wish that you had had more control of the lightsaber moves instead of it swinging randomly depending on how you were moving, but i loved the flip over slice move with the saber cheat and watching heads fly off it was so awesome, I never really see people use the force powers when they play through it was all I used I never used the guns just sabers and force powers and the force choke was so much fun holding them up and throwing the blade to chop them all up was so much fun
15:18 Amen to that. When I was playing Hogwarts Legacy I was not liking the game, I was comparing it to PC Harry Potter 1 and 2... for a reason I couldn't understand, even though they were reaally basic games, they caught the magic of Hogwarts much better... then I realised it was the exploration. In the 2000s game you could explore and had to figure things out, Hogwarts main charm is to look for passages, secrets... In the older games you had to try using your wand in every object, never knew which one would open a passage. You felt like one of the characters of the book, expierencing the castle magic. What about Hogwarts Legacy? Interactive objects and passages shine 🤣 I think that sums up modern game development, apart from exceptions. Because they target the broader audience, not usual gamers who know how mechanics work... and thus, they think regular people won't be able to figure it out. It's cheap. It's a lack of respect for the players intelligence.
Most of the comments are bit ignorant, prolly from people who stopped at 2007. The best the game has to offer ,is Full force fighting system of japlus/japro/ejk. JKA FF is the best multiplayer fighting game/mode until now. Sadly community died.
Academy seemed to have less of a "plot". DF had a plot; DF2 had a better plot; Outcast had a plot somewhere between the previous two, as well as the fact that the live-action cutscenes were replaced with game-engine cutscenes, and that diminished the plot. Academy had micro-levels, some of which were tedious - they felt like disconnected distractions from the main plot. In the film world, a producer has a limited budget. It can be spent on top-shelf actors, or top-shelf screenwriting, or special effects, or locations. A good film will balance these. Academy seemed to spend its $$$ on addressing the "failures" (i.e., the criticisms) of Outcast, and therefore didn't really create anything new and exciting.
In my opinion there werent enough checkpoints in jedi academy. It became and still is a habit for me to quick save after every single thing that i dont want to do again, bc its just way more convenient. I dont save after every thing but like regurarly to keep me from over frustrating, altough that happened still at some times,especially when i overwrote by mistake an file and had to go back a little too much. But it wasnt an catasrophe either
Jedi Academy single player playthrough was better than JK2 Jedi Knight II single player lore is better than JKA Jedi Knight II Multiplayer was better than JKA (against popular opinion its a fact because of the poke abuse in JKA) Jedi Academy was actually rushed, if you look at the release times apart. JKA was built off the back, blood, sweat and tears of JK2. Jedi Knight 2 is the dominant game but the community was always split between versions 1.02 and 1.04. Very good video and homage to the series, thanks enjoyed it and I obviously prefer the JK2 start screen and music =P
@@AnvilGaming if I remember correctly Kyle katarn got there hands on the death star plans in dark forces. But according to Disney it was someone else, I think the movie was called rouge one. Anyway him and a bunch of other jedi including one of my personal favorites corrin horn from the xwing series technically don't exist anymore... though I did hear a rumor that after they had released episode 9 disney decided everything they did is no longer Canon and all the old stuff is Canon now... not really sure what's happening there anymore
@@garrettjohnson6914 Ohhh right, Rogue One, I forgot about that. Haha, I have no idea what Disney is doing, but if Kyle Katarn is canon, then I'm happy. Hopefully they make a movie centered around him.
It wasn’t really a retcon tbh, even back in the EU the Death Star plans were stolen in three different stories by different people. They tied it together by saying each group stole a different part of the blueprints which then combined together. Rogue One can totally fit in with that in new canon. Plus it’s a great movie.
I actually i think Outcast is a stronger game based on its story. I still play both but while JA had some great maps, the rest of them are repetitive - the flying train where you clean out gangsters and bad jedi from car ro car, the speeder bike level where you take out enemies, bike to bike, the one where you have to find and deactivate bombs (2 of those, actually) and a mission on an imperial cruiser thats a fall back to the basics of FPS gaming - go from A to B, and kill anyone in your way. The levels don't build on each other the way Outcast does (navigate the inner areas of Cloud City to reach tha Cairn Shuttle; fight through Cairn to reach Doomgiver), probably so the game can be more episodic. I end up skipping most of those to get to Vijun and Taspir, the best levels of the game.
Would love to see somebody touch on Jaden Korr. Like what lightsabers did he actually use? It’s fun to let the player come up with their own conclusions but I’m personally curious as to who he actually was in canon.
Tbh I prefer it when characters like this don’t get a ‘canon’ gender or look since the whole basis is to roleplay, unlike characters like Kyle, but I’m also intrigued about this. I wanna know why Jaden already has a saber and is already proficient enough to duel and kill a cultist/reborn before even beginning training.
I love this game! I once modded it heavily so that the jedi/students are Red Power Rangers, TMNT, Cloud, Dark Link and more! Even the lightsaber there are Master Sword, Narsil. LOL
Jedi outcast is better in many ways. I loved the delay in getting a lightsaber in outcast. Feels more like star wars AND mirrors character development of Katarn.
A great game that unfortunately shows its dated gameplay. You pretty much NEED the movie battles mods to really make it fun again, otherwise just really clunky and random.
People have asked for this game to be remade…if anything update it modern graphics sounds and effects. Story is great, gameplay is un matched. Maybe make more interactive environments?
I enjoyed it as a kid & just tried replaying it & it’s a solid game but definitely overhyped by fans. The third act is easily the best part but getting there is kind of a drag. It definitely felt lower budget compared to Kotor. The saber combat, while fun, is not mind-blowing or anything. Mostly just wobbling the joystick around & it looks goofy in-game. Kotors customization is way better idk why you tried saying this one outshines it. Yeah Kotor has fewer starting outfits but that’s because there’s wayyy more to acquire as the game goes along, whereas academy is limited to what you get at the beginning. Kotor has way more options overall. The story is literally just there for the player to have something to do. It’s goofy & not gripping by any means & the dialogue is very janky. Overall, it’s a solid, fun little game but by no means anywhere near masterpiece or “perfect Star Wars game” 😂 imo
Great game, i played JA and JO religously... BUT! The sand level with the worm where you collect the ship parts one at a time is one of the worst levels, if not the worst, ive ever played in a star wars game. There are no enemies. Just a sand worm. All you do is collect a ship part (one at a time) and bring it back to the ship. For like 10 minutes.
In the last weeks, I spent a lot of time with Knights of the old Republic 1 and 2. In a discussion about the advantages and disadvantages of using two lightsabers at the same time instead of a single one, many people said that using 2 completely destroys immersion. What's your opinion on this? (Personally, I understand where they are coming from, but I still use two-weapon fighting in most games for different reasons.)
_Using 2 completely destroys immersion_ is one of the most stupidest statements I've heard within Star Wars. So, using the force to wipe someones mind is somehow perfectly immersive? I've had similar discussions on the same topic and Dual-wielding is perfectly valid. - Lightsabers don't weigh that much. - The Sabers only need to make contact with the body to do damage. The only time you need to apply additional strength is when you're in a Saber lock/Parry. - Generally, a Dual-wield user is going to be a Blademaster who focus on using the force to enhance their combat abilities/strength instead of throwing out Lightning or Telekinetic blasts. - The only downside is that you forgo alot of Precision. By having two hands on one weapon, you can do more precise attacks, strike harder and deflect stronger attacks since you're using both hands. Plus you can enhance your strength further with the force.
@@AnvilGaming Thanks! The biggest advantage of using and mastering two weapons might be that it is an uncommon style which should be difficult to counter. Sadly, this was never really shown in any of the star wars media which I saw.
Two sabers are superior to one saber in deflecting blasters, which is one of the main uses of the lightsaber. But the ideal would be a lightshield, a ranged weapon and two lightsabers, one main and one backup.
I recognized some Changes in Level Design. For example the Mine Theres a moving pipe or tunnel its inside in my Version but i remember it was outside. Are there more Changes because this one Made Level Design even worse. Also im quiet Sure i cant Change Fighting styles since im on the doomgiver and it only says strong Style in the Pad?im playing on Xbox one Sry for Bad english may the fourth be with u🧙♂️
11:38 Can someone please explain to me what Kyle means by "I have been offended by professionals?" I'm not a native speaker... I understand the words but I'm not sure what "professionals" mean here. I've been wondering about this for like 15 years. :D
Great review, it brought a tear of nostalgia. I still hope you'll make a review for Fallen Order (and maybe Jedi Survivor). You mentioned that these games are great but for different reasons. I would really like to know how.
I have to disagree when it comes to your statement around pointless exploration. While I agree that many games waste time by forcing you to traverse giant empty maps, I really like how a good exploration based game rewards my curiosity as a player.
I think there’s a slight misunderstanding. I actually like games that reward exploration and actually put effort in the world. Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 are great examples of this. Those games make you WANT to explore because that’s how well the world is designed.
@@AnvilGaming agreed, I think you were probably just talking about games that are padded with meaningless and insubstantial content. Thanks for the clarification
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You should do a video like this on kotor
Jedi Outcast is one of the worst Star Wars game I ever played. You like the level design, are you serious? JO levels were a series of uninspired empty grey corridors and the puzzles made no sense with awful backtracking. Have you even played the Naboo level? What did you like about it, did you like the endless flat swamps, the green and grey hue throughout, the polygons the size of your screen, the enemy sniping you from unseen positions with pin point accuracy? There was nothing positive about this game and it was miles under Dark Forces II.. Maybe it’s a nostalgia bias or maybe it’s to generate clicks but I find it a bit misleading to tell them Jedi Outcast is such a great game when it’s not, because people may buy this game because of your review and they will 100% be disappointed. Jedi Outcast is not a good game and even back then, as a GameCube player, it looked really unfinished and last gen. Do not buy Jedi Outcadt, there is a reason it was poorly received. Also be careful with nostalgia reviews, these are not impartial review, the reviewer usually fails to cover any of the negatives about the game and there are PLENTY
Can a non-EA company please remake this?
Embracer Group is working on it now after Aspyr dropped the ball!
isnt that KOTOR remake and not jedi knight?@@jaestreams
It hurts to have nothing else 😢
It honestly doesn’t need a remake. The modding community keeps this game going.
Nightdive will make it... They are remastering Dark Forces 1 after all
My first time playing this game back in the day I chose the light side ending due to the insane amount of respect and admiration I have for master katarn. I did not want to disappoint him
Katarn himself was extremely close to falling for the dark side. I think he even briefly was a dark jedi in Mysteries of The Sith. After he was redeemed, he was terrified and renounced his connection to force, returning to his mercenary ways which is why he has nothing but blaster in the beginning of Jedi Outcast. He if anyone would not be disappointed because he knows the tremendous temptation of the dark side first hand.
@@Cybernaut76 lol get out of here with that darkside propaganda. 😅
@@prototype8137 **laughs like Palpatine** No way, master prototype.
I chose the dark side ending because I think a story in which Master Katarn has to chase down his former student & defeat them or bring them back to the light side is more interesting
I chose the dark side because Rosh was annoying
Great video, but you focused heavily on single player and payed almost no attention to multiplayer, but the latter is truly what makes jka such an amazing game. First of all, there is an active game community which hosts events, does cooperative missions together, makes jka art etc. Second of all, the combat is really fun, complicated and has an insanely high skill cap, I mean you can play it for years and still stay a beginner. Other than that, I love the video, thanks for bringing attention to Jedi Academy!
Thank you.
I did that for a few reasons.
1) I didn't want to make this video too long.
2) The popularity/population of the game is a verrrrry small fraction of what it used to be and most people in this age won't be interested in the multiplayer aspect.
I fully agree, the multiplayer made this a Perfect game. I used to play this game religiously during it's peak. I was even part of an Australian clan, used to be a trainer and was a mod as well. Unfortunately the game's population died off pretty hard a year or two after it's release. It is now extremely low and I've more or less moved on from the Multiplayer. Most, if not everyone won't ever get to experience the passion and community the game had during its peak. It truely was something special and once in a lifetime experience.
I still remember when JA+ was first announced and most/all servers switched to it. It was awesome, especially the customization.
I'm fully aware of Movie Battles and Movie Duels mods but haven't had the chance/time to try them out.
Fully agree on the skill cap. The game has the one of the most technically complex gameplay in existance. It was absolutely brutal playing on US servers with a ping of 250+ but i somehow managed and was quite skilled. Doing something as simple as "Lightsaber Fanning" was annoying because most hits wouldn't register at that ping.
Anyways, Jedi Academy was a massive part of my childhood and it's something i'll never forget. No problems! 👍
@@AnvilGaming true, the popularity is very low, the playerbase is around 400-500 players if not including movie battles, but the game has been evolving all these years community wise. I am talking about my clan Jedi of Freedom right now. We got around 180 active members and a pretty full server pretty much every day. What's the difference between playing League of Legends with millions of players and jka if you know just a few people from this huge playerbase in LoL? The rest is the same with the exception that you won't find players in the mornings. You can play with lots of different folks in jka in the afternoon, there are constant updates and changes to the game (eternaljk) and the clan, there are tournaments, a hundred different events from jousting and sieging with medieval swords and bows to tennis, MOBA, spaceship racing etc., you name it. To me it looks like jka is at its actual peak right now.
No way dude the single player combat on Jedi master, the AI fights so much more fluid than anyone on multiplayer
Couldn't care less about MP, the SP game is still great.
@darthdude bro get on MP and get on the KR server and you will definitely meet some serious bitches
I wish they did a sequel to this. They could have even done 2 versions depending on the ending you chose
I love this game. Played it twice and didn't even know that there were different ways to fight with the lightsaber. Now I want to play again.
@JariahxSynn look up ejk mod for JKA or external jedi knight mod. You can get the whole game for free with mods and fixes needed with like just one download from a few different websites..
30:29 here's a lil tid bit you might have not noticed about force sense, basically no matter what level it is the ability will increase the accuracy of any weapon to 100%. 31:17 for mind trick there's actually 4 levels instead of 3, the 4th level allows you control any NPC (even jedi/sith characters), it more or less works like the mouse droid control section on Kejim in Jedi Outcast. However in order to get it to level 4 you gotta use setMindTrick 4 in console. Also in regards to saber styles, for the single bladed lightsaber there's 2 more additional styles that are exclusive to Tavion and Desann (he's reused from Outcast much like Jan and Lando but lacks any voicelines), just do addsaberstyle desann or tavion and gg ez
I loved your review, this is my favorite Star Wars game. Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
Thank you 👍
JA is personally one of my favorite Star Wars games ever, next to Battlefront II (2005). I will say that nostalgia plays a large role in it, because I know it has several flaws. Lightsaber combat is great, even if later enemies are tougher, and guns get completely shafted because of it since saber users will block 95-100% of your shots. There are more linear levels than before (Though some are a bit less so, like Taspir, Vjun, and Korriban), which departs from the more exploration and puzzle-based map design of the older titles, so I rarely get lost, whereas Jedi Outcast had some head-scratching moments (even if one would call it an outdated level design). The story is definitely a lot weaker until you near the finale, even if i think the more episodic level narratives had their own merit. As a kid, it was like playing through a Saturday morning cartoon, where there were little bite-sized adventures, with a larger plot surfacing now and then. As an adult, I see it more as an epilogue to Kyle's story, rather than a whole new one (since you're his apprentice, and it ties up Tavion), which I don't think is entirely bad. Yeah, a cult trying to ressurect an evil Sith ghost sounds wierd, but I like it because of how a lot of Legends content operated up to that time. Jaden's novels (Crosscurrent and Riptide) are just as wierd, with evil Sith clones and more. I think JA and JO stand on equal footing, and it depends whether you want the more story driven JO or the more mechanics and adventure driven JA. Multiplayer is definitely a highlight of the game because of these mechanics, and that's why it has a cult following to this day, with mods still in development like Movie Battles/Movie Duels. I've played the game for years and I'm still not very good against other players because of the high skill cap. Personally I had an odd love for Capture the Flag.
tldr; I wouldn't quite agree that Jedi Academy is a perfect game, it has plenty of flaws, but it's still a high entry in terms of Star Wars titles. (also yeah Rosh is annoying but he's kinda supposed to be, even in a very cheesy and obvious way). Other games have better stories, but mechanically the game is very strong.
The fighting in singleplayer is heavily gimped due to the fact that the later enemies' AI blocks and dodges everything to such an extent you literally have to cheese it with guard crushing attacks or goomba stomping and then getting in as many hits as possible while the bastards are down. It's why the dark side final boss might be my favorite one ever - he's got his own load of bullshit, sure, but he isn't perfectky blocking and dodging everything you throw out, which makes for some absolutely thrilling duels.
Lightsaber users have to dodge/block/nullify all ranged attacks, otherwise why be a melee specialist in a world of ranged weapons?
@@mysteryromanticgamer3336 naturally. I was talking about saber-to-saber combat
@@TheCakeIsNotLie You're right, but on the other hand you can use Force grip on them and throw them off a cliff, when they would have to carry cable hooks to escape (you too) or launch themselves up without touching the ground. They also wouldn't have to be as tough, and you would have to be wearing some Force-imbued armor.
YOU literally have to cheese it but some of us just got bars like that
Nah you just sucked at the campaign, the whole point is that you won't be able to fight the force users without using your force buffs. The reason you think the campaign is harder is because the people you faced weren't taking the duels seriously and were worse at the game than you are.
My favorite thing about Academy is the direct connection it has to KOTOR. Crazy to explore Ragnos’ tomb in KOTOR only to return to Korriban in a different game with Luke Skywalker and Kyle Katarn. The whole campaign is just awesome fan service with really fun fps mechanics.
Awesome game from 20 years ago. Damn time flies.
Loved to use Force Speed and Rage combo! Or like you said, Absorb and Protect combo!
I chose Force Lightning for regular enemies and Force Choke in order to throw hostile force users screaming to the bottomless abyss right next to me. I really hope Fallen Order 2 brings us those powers! Why not use them because it is mere ten years since Order 66. That is another way of saying there will be no snobbish, sanctimonious jedi master telling us "Hey! That stuff belongs to the dark side! Knock it off right now!" like there was in Jedi Academy.
You really mentioned something there: unneccessary grind! I think it is because in theearly 2000s they measured how many units were sold. Now a days they also measure how many minutes you spend inside the game (as all games require a connection to the internet) so they can tell the executes "Look how many active players we have!" I miss the simpler times!
Best multiplayer community game ever
In Jedi Academy, force lightning rocks. Espescially if you turn off the lightsaber and unleash lightning with both hands. Massive damage.
Timeless games indeed. I replayed Jedi outcast not long ago and didn't know that jedi academy had all these mod made for it. Thanks for the links you left
This game came out in the exact same year as KOTOR and that's probably the reason why it kinda went under the radar and it's not quite as well remembered as other SW games from that age. After all if you were gonna get one Star Wars game, you were most likely gonna get KOTOR in that year.
Hell, The story doesnt tie in with much of the star wars lore, and can tell its own story, fresh from the ground up. I think its one of the best star wars stories ever told.
Best series. Especially with all the visual mods you can get now. The enhanced mod for this is a must
15 years of multiplayer and clan wars (with some pauses) This game bring memories guys...
Still going with Movie Battles 2 mod, if you dont know it be sure to check it guys!
Let's be real, the MAIN reason this game was so good was cause its an absolute power trip. You have the power, the force, its abilities so the feeling of using them is what makes it special.
Jedi Academy is one of my favorite games, and in my opinion it has the best melee combat in games so far, but the Force powers are not too impressive. Remedy's CONTROL has the best telekinesis so far in my opinion. And fighting against humanoid gunners is not much fun, it should be like in Metal Gear Rising, where human gunners are cannon fodder and the main threats are robots and sword wielder cyborgs. In Jedi Academy the main threats would be military vehicles, robots and Force users with lightsabers.
These games gave me the same FEELING of the originals more so than anything else.
Best online game I've ever played. I miss those days. Making clans and websites for them. Recruiting people and making ranks. Truly good times.
My favorite of all time. Still have the discs. I wish someone would make a new one with the same mechanics.
To this day, no game has got the balance of FPS, saber combat and force powers right since
a remake from this game holy moly i wish it will come... so damn amazing how many freedom you have und the mecanics etc uff... love it
My favorite Star Wars game of all time.
I like how Jedi academy features a Dark side ending and a light side ending much like the force unleashed series
The storyline of jedi academy is FAR better than what Disney did.
27:46 Force Sense was first in the multiplayer part of Jedi Outcast, although it was way simpler.
The galaxy needs a new Jedi Academy game.
Make a Lore video for Kyle Katarn, also my most favourite character in Star Wars. Thank you. 🔥💪
Unfortunately, I think Kyle Katarn is non-canon stuff as of the moment I was typing this message (timestamp for this message is 16th February 2023 so dont roast me if Disney changes their mind tomorrow, folks).
@@Cybernaut76 It is but I am sure Filoni and F something au can manage implementing him in the new canon.
@@FreelancerCZ One possible way of doing it would be a remake or remaster of games such as Dark Forces, Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy and/or Mysteries of The Sith with the protagonist being, of course nobody else but Kyle. Could be even implemented as open world RPG or game with RPG-like features where you could return to any previous planet whenever you feel the desire to do so with mercenary stuff, such as bounty hunting, being one of Kyles primary means of earning credits. (Of course assassinations, thefts, extortions, gangster stuff and other unethical things would not be recommended if you want a light side ending). Hope Disney could consider doing that. Would also love larger selection of weapons such as Rebel Alliance rifle and/or old clone trooper issue rifle that would be good against both, organic AND droidic enemies (some weapons you could not scavenge but have to purchase with credits because killing friendlies would not be recommended) and also opportunity to turn your light saber red if you choose dark side.
I loved the whole series. I hope we will get a 4th part some time..
JKJA's plot could've made a better sequel trilogy than the Disney trilogy
Rosh being a tutorial at the first level is a great mehanic, but the fact you prefer Jedi Outcast in wich the game would never tell you what to do, and you would spend 10 hours killing Rosh to try to make him cross the river until you accidently throw your saber and hits the tree is INSANE!
Like the tube in Artus Prime that you got to catch under the bridge... It was torture.
2003 was a really incredible year for gaming
Agreed this game is number 1. I could slide a hair between this & KOTOR for sheer fun but this game has insane replay value.
One gripe with the game you didn't mention, how some saber enemies will "cheat" by using moves/techniques not available to their saber form, giving them an unpredictable advantage.
My all time favorite game. We should donate some money and make a remake by ourselves.
Jedi Academy is my favorite Star Wars game and it has some of the best melee systems in gaming so far.
Thanks for the content and the links. I was curious about controller support which I see is available. I can’t wait to try this with a few of the listed mods. Thanks again!
most realistic lightsaber duel, you get cut once and you die.
Daaaamn. The amount of hours I spent on this back in the day. And just when I thought I'm done with it, Knights of the Force fanproject was released😅
Very unique game, every 10 years I return to play it
and serioulsy Id always only do the saber cheat to make the sabers act like real lightsabers so you could chop everybody up and the full force and saber skills cheat and then Id play on the hardest difficulty to make it real as possible. I only wish that you had had more control of the lightsaber moves instead of it swinging randomly depending on how you were moving, but i loved the flip over slice move with the saber cheat and watching heads fly off it was so awesome, I never really see people use the force powers when they play through it was all I used I never used the guns just sabers and force powers and the force choke was so much fun holding them up and throwing the blade to chop them all up was so much fun
Absolutely agree that this is the best Star Wars game. Man I still play this game since it's release.
i still wish they kept this combat mechanics in the new star wars games
15:18 Amen to that. When I was playing Hogwarts Legacy I was not liking the game, I was comparing it to PC Harry Potter 1 and 2... for a reason I couldn't understand, even though they were reaally basic games, they caught the magic of Hogwarts much better... then I realised it was the exploration. In the 2000s game you could explore and had to figure things out, Hogwarts main charm is to look for passages, secrets... In the older games you had to try using your wand in every object, never knew which one would open a passage. You felt like one of the characters of the book, expierencing the castle magic. What about Hogwarts Legacy? Interactive objects and passages shine 🤣
I think that sums up modern game development, apart from exceptions. Because they target the broader audience, not usual gamers who know how mechanics work... and thus, they think regular people won't be able to figure it out. It's cheap. It's a lack of respect for the players intelligence.
Very nice video, JKA is still alive ;)
when I was a kid all I wished for was a game based on the saga with academys gameplay
I personally very poor computer skills I can't seem to get mods to work right and personally just want devs to make it goid enough to not need mods.
Up there with KOTOR 1 and 2. This game was a classic.
Most of the comments are bit ignorant, prolly from people who stopped at 2007. The best the game has to offer ,is Full force fighting system of japlus/japro/ejk. JKA FF is the best multiplayer fighting game/mode until now. Sadly community died.
Academy seemed to have less of a "plot". DF had a plot; DF2 had a better plot; Outcast had a plot somewhere between the previous two, as well as the fact that the live-action cutscenes were replaced with game-engine cutscenes, and that diminished the plot. Academy had micro-levels, some of which were tedious - they felt like disconnected distractions from the main plot.
In the film world, a producer has a limited budget. It can be spent on top-shelf actors, or top-shelf screenwriting, or special effects, or locations. A good film will balance these. Academy seemed to spend its $$$ on addressing the "failures" (i.e., the criticisms) of Outcast, and therefore didn't really create anything new and exciting.
Solid review right here
Much appreciated!
I love how the switch has multiplayer on it. Hopefully they could release Battlefront 1&2 on the switch with multiplayer
This game was absolutely sublime
In my opinion there werent enough checkpoints in jedi academy. It became and still is a habit for me to quick save after every single thing that i dont want to do again, bc its just way more convenient. I dont save after every thing but like regurarly to keep me from over frustrating, altough that happened still at some times,especially when i overwrote by mistake an file and had to go back a little too much. But it wasnt an catasrophe either
I was hoping they would have remastered this
Is it possible to play the Academy’s story in coop? Like a mod, or something.
Jedi Academy single player playthrough was better than JK2
Jedi Knight II single player lore is better than JKA
Jedi Knight II Multiplayer was better than JKA (against popular opinion its a fact because of the poke abuse in JKA)
Jedi Academy was actually rushed, if you look at the release times apart. JKA was built off the back, blood, sweat and tears of JK2.
Jedi Knight 2 is the dominant game but the community was always split between versions 1.02 and 1.04.
Very good video and homage to the series, thanks enjoyed it and I obviously prefer the JK2 start screen and music =P
Was it only me that felt Rosh was just like Eric from Tony Haw's Underground?
I was looking forward to this one, I really wish they hadn't retcon Kyle katarn
How did they retcon it? I’ve been out of the loop so I’m not aware of what they did.
@@AnvilGaming if I remember correctly Kyle katarn got there hands on the death star plans in dark forces. But according to Disney it was someone else, I think the movie was called rouge one. Anyway him and a bunch of other jedi including one of my personal favorites corrin horn from the xwing series technically don't exist anymore... though I did hear a rumor that after they had released episode 9 disney decided everything they did is no longer Canon and all the old stuff is Canon now... not really sure what's happening there anymore
@@garrettjohnson6914 Ohhh right, Rogue One, I forgot about that.
Haha, I have no idea what Disney is doing, but if Kyle Katarn is canon, then I'm happy. Hopefully they make a movie centered around him.
If you ignore Disney, nothing has been decanonized 😉
It wasn’t really a retcon tbh, even back in the EU the Death Star plans were stolen in three different stories by different people. They tied it together by saying each group stole a different part of the blueprints which then combined together. Rogue One can totally fit in with that in new canon. Plus it’s a great movie.
I actually i think Outcast is a stronger game based on its story. I still play both but while JA had some great maps, the rest of them are repetitive - the flying train where you clean out gangsters and bad jedi from car ro car, the speeder bike level where you take out enemies, bike to bike, the one where you have to find and deactivate bombs (2 of those, actually) and a mission on an imperial cruiser thats a fall back to the basics of FPS gaming - go from A to B, and kill anyone in your way. The levels don't build on each other the way Outcast does (navigate the inner areas of Cloud City to reach tha Cairn Shuttle; fight through Cairn to reach Doomgiver), probably so the game can be more episodic. I end up skipping most of those to get to Vijun and Taspir, the best levels of the game.
I like Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
should check out play Vertex, based off the same combat as JKA
Would love to see somebody touch on Jaden Korr. Like what lightsabers did he actually use? It’s fun to let the player come up with their own conclusions but I’m personally curious as to who he actually was in canon.
Tbh I prefer it when characters like this don’t get a ‘canon’ gender or look since the whole basis is to roleplay, unlike characters like Kyle, but I’m also intrigued about this. I wanna know why Jaden already has a saber and is already proficient enough to duel and kill a cultist/reborn before even beginning training.
I love this game! I once modded it heavily so that the jedi/students are Red Power Rangers, TMNT, Cloud, Dark Link and more! Even the lightsaber there are Master Sword, Narsil. LOL
Jedi outcast is better in many ways. I loved the delay in getting a lightsaber in outcast. Feels more like star wars AND mirrors character development of Katarn.
A great game that unfortunately shows its dated gameplay. You pretty much NEED the movie battles mods to really make it fun again, otherwise just really clunky and random.
Why are game developers so bad at making games now.
People have asked for this game to be remade…if anything update it modern graphics sounds and effects. Story is great, gameplay is un matched. Maybe make more interactive environments?
great video! what mods do you use?
24:07 hahaha not agree, if you are good you can become a parrymaster, at least it works in jk2 multiplayer
Good video.
movie battles 2 still has players surprisingly!
I would like a update on graphics maybe some more missions to the game
The need to remake this game please!!!
Jedi Academy is the greatest video game of all time...
Never played this back in the day.. kinda wish I had now.
the game with the new raytracing mod is stunning you should check it out i just found about it having a blast playing this again
I enjoyed it as a kid & just tried replaying it & it’s a solid game but definitely overhyped by fans. The third act is easily the best part but getting there is kind of a drag. It definitely felt lower budget compared to Kotor. The saber combat, while fun, is not mind-blowing or anything. Mostly just wobbling the joystick around & it looks goofy in-game.
Kotors customization is way better idk why you tried saying this one outshines it. Yeah Kotor has fewer starting outfits but that’s because there’s wayyy more to acquire as the game goes along, whereas academy is limited to what you get at the beginning. Kotor has way more options overall.
The story is literally just there for the player to have something to do. It’s goofy & not gripping by any means & the dialogue is very janky. Overall, it’s a solid, fun little game but by no means anywhere near masterpiece or “perfect Star Wars game” 😂 imo
This game looks badass but how do you get a red lightsaber in the main story??
Great game, i played JA and JO religously... BUT! The sand level with the worm where you collect the ship parts one at a time is one of the worst levels, if not the worst, ive ever played in a star wars game.
There are no enemies. Just a sand worm. All you do is collect a ship part (one at a time) and bring it back to the ship. For like 10 minutes.
Eh. I don't see the praise for the lightsaber mechanics in this game. There's literally no block button, and the auto-block mechanic is super glitchy.
can you be a force / lighting user?
12:12 "abilities are not inherently good or evil, it's how you use them". Soo... what does "dark" and "light" force powers even mean then?
the amouth of customization is fuking great. defnitly will buy it and live my Revan fantasy
Wait.. I'm not seeing loot... how can you have a game without loot?!
AND NOW IS VR for oculus quest 2
In the last weeks, I spent a lot of time with Knights of the old Republic 1 and 2. In a discussion about the advantages and disadvantages of using two lightsabers at the same time instead of a single one, many people said that using 2 completely destroys immersion.
What's your opinion on this?
(Personally, I understand where they are coming from, but I still use two-weapon fighting in most games for different reasons.)
_Using 2 completely destroys immersion_ is one of the most stupidest statements I've heard within Star Wars. So, using the force to wipe someones mind is somehow perfectly immersive?
I've had similar discussions on the same topic and Dual-wielding is perfectly valid.
- Lightsabers don't weigh that much.
- The Sabers only need to make contact with the body to do damage. The only time you need to apply additional strength is when you're in a Saber lock/Parry.
- Generally, a Dual-wield user is going to be a Blademaster who focus on using the force to enhance their combat abilities/strength instead of throwing out Lightning or Telekinetic blasts.
- The only downside is that you forgo alot of Precision. By having two hands on one weapon, you can do more precise attacks, strike harder and deflect stronger attacks since you're using both hands. Plus you can enhance your strength further with the force.
@@AnvilGaming
Thanks!
The biggest advantage of using and mastering two weapons might be that it is an uncommon style which should be difficult to counter. Sadly, this was never really shown in any of the star wars media which I saw.
Two sabers are superior to one saber in deflecting blasters, which is one of the main uses of the lightsaber. But the ideal would be a lightshield, a ranged weapon and two lightsabers, one main and one backup.
I recognized some Changes in Level Design. For example the Mine Theres a moving pipe or tunnel its inside in my Version but i remember it was outside. Are there more Changes because this one Made Level Design even worse. Also im quiet Sure i cant Change Fighting styles since im on the doomgiver and it only says strong Style in the Pad?im playing on Xbox one Sry for Bad english may the fourth be with u🧙♂️
How did you get that hud? 27:34
Jedi academy is the best game due to lightsaber combat
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I used to play multiplayer and nerver played singleplayer still my favourite game
11:38 Can someone please explain to me what Kyle means by "I have been offended by professionals?" I'm not a native speaker... I understand the words but I'm not sure what "professionals" mean here. I've been wondering about this for like 15 years. :D
Great review, it brought a tear of nostalgia. I still hope you'll make a review for Fallen Order (and maybe Jedi Survivor). You mentioned that these games are great but for different reasons. I would really like to know how.
I still play it.
And also x-wing alliance.
Best, or should I say funnest, game ever no doubt...
I have to disagree when it comes to your statement around pointless exploration. While I agree that many games waste time by forcing you to traverse giant empty maps, I really like how a good exploration based game rewards my curiosity as a player.
I think there’s a slight misunderstanding. I actually like games that reward exploration and actually put effort in the world.
Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 are great examples of this. Those games make you WANT to explore because that’s how well the world is designed.
@@AnvilGaming agreed, I think you were probably just talking about games that are padded with meaningless and insubstantial content. Thanks for the clarification