@@HalfClickUpSo what are your dials set at now for fuel ratios on Marthys map? If 5 is now considered base, did you leave them put, or down a click in the lower, and up at high end rpm and so forth?
Robert Smith so I’ve got all three dials turned at exactly 50% at the moment and have not experimented yet. I’m thinking of turning down the low range dial by one click though. Have experienced a slight momentary break up at light throttle in 1st gear at 15 to 20mph going red light to red light. It’s happened twice in a solid week of daily commuting.
Hey friend, I'm here to tell you that from the power commander fc control center, you can actually see what value each setting is at, because it indicates it in values that, I think, range from -3 to +10. As you move each knob, you will see that on the PC you see the indicated value go up or down. I have loaded the map that you kindly gave me (Hindle), and I just turned those 3 dials until I left all three of them at zero value. I haven't tested the bike yet, but I understand that whoever made the map took the zero values into account, because otherwise, I suppose, they would have specified what trim values each knob should have.
I’m not entirely sure, but I can tell you that I experimented with both completely turned down and completely turned up and she ran terribly both ways. With all three set at “zero,” she screams! 👍
Hey dude, I love your channel! Great content for fellow FZ6R owners. Quick question: did you find that since running the PCFC with Marty's map and full exhaust system, the bike has a (very) strong exhaust smell? Akin to a two-stroke engine. It smells as though a lot of fuel is unburnt. Therefore maybe indicating that the bike is running too rich. My concern is by turning the rpm dials up to 50%, the bike will run even richer.
tuba337 I know exactly what you’re talking about. While the map indeed creates a rich mixture, you have to remember that an aftermarket exhaust setup no longer has an emissions component to the system. You’ll notice the same rich exhaust smell on a modified car that is running true duals (for example) with no cats. Same situation with a straight header/slip-on setup on a bike. Always inspect your plugs ever so often for a personal reassurance that your mixture is just fine 😎
@@HalfClickUp Glad to see its just not my bike. I got caught in bumper to bumper traffic the other day and when I finally got to the office, the exhaust smell was pungent! Something I never noticed when riding out of town. Also, I went one tooth down in the back. It's awesome, the bike has even more gusto.
@@HalfClickUp I reread my comment, I meant one tooth UP.😁 From 46 standard to 47. Higher torque and much more fun from the start. My rpms are a bit higher at cruising speed ( sixth gear - 7000-7500 @120 kph) and fuel efficiency dropped but still an overall gain in grunt.
Glad to get another opinion on the fuel trims!. I’m really enjoying mine right now, especially with the sprocket..which to be honest, I really wouldn’t recommend to you only because of your daily highway commute. Speaking about coolant temps, I have a brand new radiator with new coolant and in 95° weather I stay around 195ish so I might look into the engine ice. Looking forward to the review man, keep it coming!
Phillip Owen I’m glad you mentioned the sprocket, because I’ve been backing away from the idea lately. I think I still might be game for the timing advance mod, though.
Phillip Owen wow, that’s a pretty good shift in the power band. I’m at 7,000 at 80mph, so I guess my 80mph interstate cruise would be closer to 8,500 or so if I drop a tooth. That’s a bit much I think..
Half-Click Up I cruise at 80-85 for about a good 40 mile interstate cruise a few times a week and tbh..it doesn’t care at all. I just don’t like doing it too much..
Half-Click Up...not to mention it absolutely killed my top speed. 😳 all in all, it was worth it to me, but I can definitely see how it wouldn’t be for some people.
hahaha glad I could learn from your trial & error 🙏 you're a pioneer, sir have you ever thought about starting a discord server for your channel / fz owners?
I no this is a old video but i am working on building my bike like yours and have a question for you can you put the same map you put on your PCFC on a PC5 ? and sorry for the bad English i am for Quebec Montréal love your channel :)
I just purchased an 09 fz6r, it has two brothers and juice box on it. You think it would be okay to just turn the low mid and high to the halfway mark? I am not sure what map is on there because i dont have the cord to connect to a laptop
Yes, I’ve determined through experimentation with the PCFC that the halfway mark represents the “neutral” position, where the controller will run a selected map at “face value,” so to speak. That gives 50% range for turning trims down, and 50% range for turning trims up. I’m sure the Juice Box operates the same way.
@@HalfClickUp Do you still run marthys map? My next step is to try and find a cord to plug a laptop in and see what map is running my bike, Im going to take a wild guess its the two brothers map
@@capton87 I have been running the Hindle Performance dyno tune for a couple years now. It’s leaner than Marthy’s and produces a bit more pull in the mid and high range. Shoot me an email when you get a cord and I’ll send you the Hindle map. You’ll never go back. hcumotovlogs@gmail.com
Hey, I have a fully stock 09 fz6r. I just got it last summer. Its gets about 100 degrees here in the summer and my bike heats up to about 220 in mid summer. Any advice? Or is that normal? And what's the first thing I should do to make this bike a little faster? Or just any advice period? It's only got 15k miles on it and I want it to last a long long time. Thanks.
Jordan Brock that’s pretty dang hot dude... highest I’ve seen while running is 214. Do a coolant flush and switch it to Engine Ice, see if she runs cooler. As for go fast parts, exhaust with fuel controller is a world of difference. Let me know when you get ready and I’ll send you a killer dyno tune for it.
ni55un that first dial is only to select which map you want to run. There are 10 slots to choose from if I recall. For example, in slot 1 I have the Two Bros map, and in slot 2 I have Marthy’s map. The dial is set to 2 to run Marthy’s map.
Cesar Ruiz basically, yep. I ended up lowering the low range dial by one notch because of a couple instances of over-fueling at light throttle/slow speeds.
So many bikes probably got blown up because of this. You can see what the values are at on the computer. Your telling everyone to just turn them half way up. They are set at 0 from the factory. Only the people who listened to you in the first place should be turning them halfway up otherwise your cylinders are gonna have a gas bath
Oh come on now. Any extreme variation in trims by way of the controller’s dials simply causes poor performance, and I’ve confirmed that myself. The ECU compensates to the extent that the engine still runs while you correct the dial settings to restore performance characteristics to your liking. That’s the point of the PCFC’s “on-the-fly” adjustment capability. No dial setting on the PCFC results in engine failure.
Now im gonna have to mess with my PCFC tomorrow afternoon, thank you! You should have a 50,000 mile celebration party and review! 🎉
😎🤙
@@HalfClickUpSo what are your dials set at now for fuel ratios on Marthys map? If 5 is now considered base, did you leave them put, or down a click in the lower, and up at high end rpm and so forth?
Robert Smith so I’ve got all three dials turned at exactly 50% at the moment and have not experimented yet. I’m thinking of turning down the low range dial by one click though. Have experienced a slight momentary break up at light throttle in 1st gear at 15 to 20mph going red light to red light. It’s happened twice in a solid week of daily commuting.
Hey friend, I'm here to tell you that from the power commander fc control center, you can actually see what value each setting is at, because it indicates it in values that, I think, range from -3 to +10.
As you move each knob, you will see that on the PC you see the indicated value go up or down.
I have loaded the map that you kindly gave me (Hindle), and I just turned those 3 dials until I left all three of them at zero value.
I haven't tested the bike yet, but I understand that whoever made the map took the zero values into account, because otherwise, I suppose, they would have specified what trim values each knob should have.
I’m not entirely sure, but I can tell you that I experimented with both completely turned down and completely turned up and she ran terribly both ways. With all three set at “zero,” she screams! 👍
Hey dude, I love your channel!
Great content for fellow FZ6R owners.
Quick question: did you find that since running the PCFC with Marty's map and full exhaust system, the bike has a (very) strong exhaust smell? Akin to a two-stroke engine.
It smells as though a lot of fuel is unburnt. Therefore maybe indicating that the bike is running too rich.
My concern is by turning the rpm dials up to 50%, the bike will run even richer.
tuba337 I know exactly what you’re talking about. While the map indeed creates a rich mixture, you have to remember that an aftermarket exhaust setup no longer has an emissions component to the system. You’ll notice the same rich exhaust smell on a modified car that is running true duals (for example) with no cats. Same situation with a straight header/slip-on setup on a bike. Always inspect your plugs ever so often for a personal reassurance that your mixture is just fine 😎
@@HalfClickUp Glad to see its just not my bike.
I got caught in bumper to bumper traffic the other day and when I finally got to the office, the exhaust smell was pungent!
Something I never noticed when riding out of town.
Also, I went one tooth down in the back. It's awesome, the bike has even more gusto.
tuba337 interesting choice of a tooth drop. How’d that move your power band around?
@@HalfClickUp I reread my comment, I meant one tooth UP.😁 From 46 standard to 47.
Higher torque and much more fun from the start. My rpms are a bit higher at cruising speed ( sixth gear - 7000-7500 @120 kph) and fuel efficiency dropped but still an overall gain in grunt.
tuba337 😬👌
Just bought a PCFC for my Roadliner, it was definitely running lean after install. Good tip, gonna set to halfway and tune from there.
I’ve been running a dyno tune made by Hindle Performance. Shoot me an email at hcumotovlogs@gmail.com if you’d like to give it a run.
Glad to get another opinion on the fuel trims!. I’m really enjoying mine right now, especially with the sprocket..which to be honest, I really wouldn’t recommend to you only because of your daily highway commute. Speaking about coolant temps, I have a brand new radiator with new coolant and in 95° weather I stay around 195ish so I might look into the engine ice. Looking forward to the review man, keep it coming!
Phillip Owen I’m glad you mentioned the sprocket, because I’ve been backing away from the idea lately. I think I still might be game for the timing advance mod, though.
Half-Click Up in 6th gear at 70, I’m around 76-8000.
Phillip Owen wow, that’s a pretty good shift in the power band. I’m at 7,000 at 80mph, so I guess my 80mph interstate cruise would be closer to 8,500 or so if I drop a tooth. That’s a bit much I think..
Half-Click Up I cruise at 80-85 for about a good 40 mile interstate cruise a few times a week and tbh..it doesn’t care at all. I just don’t like doing it too much..
Half-Click Up...not to mention it absolutely killed my top speed. 😳 all in all, it was worth it to me, but I can definitely see how it wouldn’t be for some people.
hahaha glad I could learn from your trial & error 🙏 you're a pioneer, sir
have you ever thought about starting a discord server for your channel / fz owners?
@15:08 🤣
Man I honestly don’t know anything about Discord 🤷🏻♂️😆
Hey Half click great video as always be safe n TTYL
Beth Mccormick thanks for sticking with me Beth! 🤗
Thanks!, my Hog rider friend with a carburetor, no fuel manager for his fat Hog.
Ha ha ha 😁.
Hahahaha yep but fuel injection is better!
Thank you! 😎🤙
You can tell what those dials are on if your plugged in to the computer. It will say -1, 0, 1 on all three. You want it at 0
I no this is a old video but i am working on building my bike like yours and have a question for you can you put the same map you put on your PCFC on a PC5 ?
and sorry for the bad English i am for Quebec Montréal love your channel :)
Yes that is correct. PCFC works with .pcv files just like the PC5. Thanks for watching my stuff!
Half click, you did connect the fc to the battery? Fugit, I'm a dumb Azz everyone.
Haha yeah man, ground wire to negative battery terminal.
I just purchased an 09 fz6r, it has two brothers and juice box on it. You think it would be okay to just turn the low mid and high to the halfway mark? I am not sure what map is on there because i dont have the cord to connect to a laptop
Yes, I’ve determined through experimentation with the PCFC that the halfway mark represents the “neutral” position, where the controller will run a selected map at “face value,” so to speak. That gives 50% range for turning trims down, and 50% range for turning trims up. I’m sure the Juice Box operates the same way.
@@HalfClickUp Do you still run marthys map? My next step is to try and find a cord to plug a laptop in and see what map is running my bike, Im going to take a wild guess its the two brothers map
@@capton87 I have been running the Hindle Performance dyno tune for a couple years now. It’s leaner than Marthy’s and produces a bit more pull in the mid and high range. Shoot me an email when you get a cord and I’ll send you the Hindle map. You’ll never go back.
hcumotovlogs@gmail.com
@@HalfClickUp thanks for the fast replies! Glad there is someone who posts so many fz6r videos
@@capton87 happy to help, and thanks for watching!
Hey, I have a fully stock 09 fz6r. I just got it last summer. Its gets about 100 degrees here in the summer and my bike heats up to about 220 in mid summer. Any advice? Or is that normal? And what's the first thing I should do to make this bike a little faster? Or just any advice period? It's only got 15k miles on it and I want it to last a long long time. Thanks.
Jordan Brock that’s pretty dang hot dude... highest I’ve seen while running is 214. Do a coolant flush and switch it to Engine Ice, see if she runs cooler. As for go fast parts, exhaust with fuel controller is a world of difference. Let me know when you get ready and I’ll send you a killer dyno tune for it.
What kind of sideview mirrors are those?
ZX6R
Ninja Mirrors on FZ6R?!
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@@HalfClickUp thanks man this is my first bike and I been using your vids to work on my FZ6R very helpful content!
@@andrewvogt4413 awesome, congrats dude and thanks for watching my stuff!
This is why I have the PC V !! No dials !!! And it rips !!
What map are you running on the pcv?
@@patricklawless2246 Hindle map that was dyno tuned on my bike.
What about the 1st dial "base" on the pcfc?
ni55un that first dial is only to select which map you want to run. There are 10 slots to choose from if I recall. For example, in slot 1 I have the Two Bros map, and in slot 2 I have Marthy’s map. The dial is set to 2 to run Marthy’s map.
Be precise because I caught mine a little in between I guess and it jumped down to the map before mine, which tbh, the DynoJet maps are junk. Lol
Did you put exhaust on or is it stock
03-05 R6 header with Yoshimura slip-on:
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What is your top speed now
MOTO ENFORCER JDM it’s still mechanically limited to 140mph. It just gets there a bit quicker now 😉
How hard was it to install bro
hugo molina here’s my PCFC installation vid:
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So put them in “5”
Cesar Ruiz basically, yep. I ended up lowering the low range dial by one notch because of a couple instances of over-fueling at light throttle/slow speeds.
So many bikes probably got blown up because of this. You can see what the values are at on the computer. Your telling everyone to just turn them half way up. They are set at 0 from the factory. Only the people who listened to you in the first place should be turning them halfway up otherwise your cylinders are gonna have a gas bath
Oh come on now. Any extreme variation in trims by way of the controller’s dials simply causes poor performance, and I’ve confirmed that myself. The ECU compensates to the extent that the engine still runs while you correct the dial settings to restore performance characteristics to your liking. That’s the point of the PCFC’s “on-the-fly” adjustment capability. No dial setting on the PCFC results in engine failure.
Cavemen ride fat hogs.
Never met a caveman I didn’t like 😉