Tim is just blowing the doors off of every other channel right now. He comes on here and totally speaks the truth and is giving a 100% fair and accurate review of the all new Tundra. Total transparency with this guy. He deserves a million subscribers for his honestly and integrity alone. Good Job keep it up ✌💯💯
Good video! Couple things just to clarify for audience: Bumper structure is beyond aircraft grade strength aluminum, not steel. I am heavily involved in the production of that unit and it’s assembly. It’s tough! Got your terminology backwards on the filter. It’s a canister not a cartridge. Last tundra used a cartridge. This is a simple spin on canister thankfully. Exhaust on Toyotas are stainless steel including the hangers. The previous generation Tundra also had 4 cats. Skid plates are high impact polyethylene which won’t dent or rust like steel. The Pro would have a heavy aluminum front skid and additional steel skids.
I have to say this is the best video I’ve seen on the Tundra so far. You aren’t force feeding all the same old specs that all the other Automotive channels are. Great job on this one.
Good luck. I checked the Toyota site and you can't even add them as an accessory. It looks like an aftermarket option is going to be really difficult with that new design.
Hi Tim, Thanks a lot for all your videos on your new tundra. I have a 2015 tundra limited and live in central Yukon, Canada. I' ve pushed my truck beyond it's "described" limits on every aspect (working in firewood business, up to 15000lbs loads...-50c temperatures....-30's cold start, every time, all this truck as to say is "that's all you got?") and I have been amazed with it. I am following of course carefully what the 2.0 version of my beloved truck could be. Thanks a lot! You are followed all the way up North....way north. Your insight won't go unnoticed. I might wait a year or so to get all the computer bugs aspects all figured out... but if we ever have a platinum, 6.5ft bed, with trd off road, in hybrid in Canada....yop...i might be in for that! again, tks a lot!
Tim you are amazing !!! Your details about the tundra are like no other !!!! No one has taken the the time to explain everything about this truck !! My hat is off to you !
Tim, you're channel is outstanding on your Tundra information. Good info & not fluff. I have a large local dealer & they don't have one you can see. Only received 1 & it was quickly delivered. Your channel is my source. I've owned 3 Tundra's & due for a new truck.
Really glad to see they moved the big heavy fuel tank on the passenger side. The previous models were notorious in leaning towards the drivers side. Everything was on that side! Tank, driver, battery, transfer case, front diff and driveshaft on 4x4 models.
That front bumper looks like structural aluminum and not steel. That's good and bad. The good is that it's as strong as steel on initial impact while being better at dissipating energy in a severe collision. The bad is, those bolts that mount it to the frame appear to be steel... and if salt/brine makes it's way up in there, you'll get some pretty serious galvanic action... i.e. corrosion. Something to keep and eye on.
Thanks for the video Tim. 👍 There are a couple of deal breakers on the design here. You are right about the tow hooks. It will be nearly impossible to mount any. Also, the rear bumper corners being body panels...that is a real bone head move building them like that. I am at a loss for words seeing how they put that together.
Thanks for the oil filter location and intervals info. Cheers Tim. Keep the info coming. I can read a brochure anytime but the little things are what I am interested in. Probably won’t see one here in Ont till Jan sometime. 👍🏻
I’m a Toyota guy and have been for 30+ years and honestly I was waiting for this new tundra to come out , but went ahead and purchased top of the line Tacoma in the TRD ORDC 4x4 with LED lights lights , and the more I’m seeing these newer trucks with all the bells and whistles and turbos, & hybrids the more I’m liking the older designs , not a fan of this new tundra at all from looks to the design to the motors , but that’s just me & my opinion I’m old school . Looks like I will drive my 2021 Tacoma till I die …..
Toyota does have a factory fold out rear bumper step option ($395.) that is very functional. I installed an aftermarket one same design on my 2014 Tundra and it has held up very well.
I was so excited for this truck because I knew there was going to be some great engineering behind it. Unfortunately there are a few things that I couldn’t live with. Hopefully a small refresh takes care of them.
I live near Toronto, they pour salt down here. I oil undercoat my vehicles every fall. My 2008 Tacoma sprayed every fall still looked new after 10 years, now I have a 2017 Tundra and same thing, oil sprayed every fall, still looks new.
@@HY-xf4ru This is where I go. The oil is sprayed on with a wand that mists inside the rockers, doors, quarters. Then they spray the underside with a spray gun. The best part is it protects brake lines and the wiring harness too. Todays wire insulation is Soy based and mice and chipmunks love it, but they hate the oil. ua-cam.com/video/Rme49iIEJDY/v-deo.html
@@HY-xf4ru Project Farm has the best comparison videos. He compares undercoating in this video. What ever you use, it needs to be applied with a wand that mists the inside of the frame and panels. It can be messy so I just pay to have it done. ua-cam.com/video/lyWHF4NoNVk/v-deo.html
Good job on the undercarriage review. Everything looks solid except the plastic protective fuel tank plate and rear bumper. If you do get front end damage it looks like you’ll get major damage to the air dam and it’s motor assembly, oil cooler and other structures before the “massive piece of steel” piece starts to protect what’s behind it. Nitpicking brings me to the single exhaust outlet. Excellent review as always.
I’ve just came to a couple of conclusions about my prior statement. Maybe the hard plastic shield under the fuel tank is designed to take an impact without causing a spark in case there is a leak or seep in the fuel system. The plastic pieces on the sides of the bumper allow the rear backing safety sense to operate properly. The single side exhaust is also a safety feature. It is on the opposite side of the fuel tank. Also where would another exhaust pipe be routed? I would rather have the full sized spare tire so it makes sense what Toyota did in that regard as well. I really can’t find anything that I would do differently than what Toyota did, except keep the reliable V8.
Great video I just bought a brand new 2020 22 Toyota Tacoma was wondering how important it is to get undercoat it should I be worried about this type of thing I bought it with a lease to buy afterwards I'm afraid if I get an undercoat it the warranty will not hold up
I don't ever hope to use tow hooks for recovery as I don't off road and hopefully stay on the road otherwise, however I do carry canoe's from time to time and being able to tie the front down (and back) is critical especially in windy conditions. A simple pop out piece on either side of the bumper with a recovery screw in hook (like some of the German brands) would even suffice. Attaching a strap down and around that air dam is likely going to be problematic. Keep up the great work.
I always get a kick out of people complaining about having rust on the undercarriage of their vehicle, but yet The same people won’t spend the money to get it properly protected, aka Undercoated.🤷🏼♂️
Tim, You should really look into Landcruiser and Lexus platforms and how aftermarket bumpers are being added to create overlander platforms. You have to understand Landcruiser Ave Tundra platforms are not melted together
Thanks to Tim pointing out rust on undercarriages I went to look at a 2019 Ford f150 with 18k miles on it . Carfax said it was from Michigan. Truck was a beauty with all the options. Crawled under it and everything was rusty and the brake lines had corrosion forming. There was even dried cement under it lime it had been on a construction site where they were pouring cement. Walked away!
Question Tim. If your rear corner bumper gets hit your actually damaging the side bed body of the truck?? That would be a much more expensive job to fix. Even a light accident would cause significant damage. Is there a way to replace the rear corner body?
You would just replace the whole piece. I’ve talked to numerous body shop people and they are all moving towards replacing panels rather than hammering them flat again. This panel looks engineered to be replaced and not repaired.
Tim, your videos are awesome! I think you just talked me "out" of a new Tundra. My 2019 TRD PRO is amazing. I don't think I could deal with that oil filter. I perform my own oil changes, and minor maintenance. My TRD PRO has the access door. A previous Tundra which I owned had the pesky skid plate removal for all oil changes. I ended up cutting a hole in the skid plate for access. I am happy to see that Toyota finally went back to the traditional oil filter, but am highly disappointed in its placement. That bumper issue is horrendous. Also, tow hooks are a must! Keep. em coming, bud. Do we know if the 2022 TRD PRO will have an access panel for the oil filter, as in previous years?
If that is a traditional oil filter and it's placed up there like that, then you can pretty much say good bye to how you see it now. No access door and like a huge PITA to do your own oil changes in the new TRD Pro! The 2019 was great because of all you mentioned!
The biggest downfall of the 2022 Tundra TRD Pro is it's losing almost 5 degrees of approach angle versus the 2021 Tundra TRD Pro, due to that grotesque front fascia.
If one gets stuck in a mud hole, I doubt reaching any logical connection point under the front end would be remotely possible. Toyota dropped the ball on this one.
I hate the plastic skid plates and Toyota is not the only one using them. I would have concerns with the muffler hanging below the frame and the shock mounts on the rear axle look pretty vulnerable to damage since they hang down so low.
almost all side by sides now come with HRDM plastic skid plates, its lighter than steel, takes a crazy beating and actually helps slide over rocks better.
Nothing beats my 2018 f350 with the 6.7. Oil filter and drain plug are right beside each other and very easy to get at. Having to put the air dam in service mode seems like a f*#k show
How Common is it for the fuel tank to be located on the opposite side than the filler door with the fill tube running a crossed top the muffler that seems like a fire hazard
Bottom line it should have came with tow hooks from the factory. Personally I’d never hardly ever get a truck this nice and expensive in something that rough but I still want tow hooks not only just for looks but just in case too.
I always hit the underside with a can or two of por-15 when I buy a new truck. Even on my Ram they do paint it but they only paint certain spots. 95% of rust you see on any of these vehicles wont matter there is a few certain spots you want to get a nice coat on but its basically for appearances sake.
Thanks for the undercarriage walk around!! Seems like they used the same composite in the skid plates that they used in the bed. Definitely interested in seeing how corrosion is held back after the full winter’s exposure!! Oil filter behind an underbody cover. 🙁 A pain.
The under carriage looks to be of quality with everything painted properly. Also first pickup I've scene with plastic rocker panel covers, at least when they start to rust you won't see it.
I just started watching your videos and I’m really enjoying them, I own a 2021 and was considering getting the 2022, but now Im rethinking the whole thing. I like the 2022 but I’m not jumping up and down, especially the gas mileage doesn’t seem so great, you didn’t seem to get wonderful mpg on your trip back.
Very nice video, must people don’t show this stuff. I still don’t understand what Toyota trucks other than the TRD Pro don’t have dual exhaust pipes all the way to the back. This would have been a nice addition for this time around, maybe it is not needed, but I am sure it looks nicer
2007-2021 Tundra's have been really good for not rusting besides the rear bumper on the 2007-2013. I live in eastern Canada where vehicle rust is a huge problem. GM trucks after 1998 and Rams been the worse in my area.
Depends how you take care of your truck I've seen them all have major rust issues it's how well you take care of your truck under carriage washes not putting thick tires that stick out without fender flares so the the fender flares don't start to rust Ford avoided that with aluminum but then you look underneath and it's all rust all Americans did have paint issues which sucks but if someone put 3m protection rust wouldn't be an issue
Wrong, many tundras have had the frames replaced due to rust issues including my own also the bed floor is rotting out on mine and the rear bumper as you mentioned. I'm a huge Toyota fan but all three of the trucks I've had over the years the frames rusted out on. '86 pickup, '03 tundra, '07 tundra.
I think catalytic thefts are happening everywhere right now, I'm not sure what the solution is. Best bet is probably an aftermarket alarm system and a well vented skid plate that makes it difficult to remove them.
I would look into relocating that oil filter. Put it on the top of the engine, and a spin on conventional filter. Those plastic filter housings can crack when they get over torqued by oil change places or dealerships.
It's a metal conventional oil filter, not plastic. But no to it being relocated on top of engine, where you will get oil dumped on things every oil change. It's ok where it is here, but Toyota should lose the "beauty shield" that so many manufacturers have been adding to engine and underbody areas. They always add inconvenience, but little value.
@@collinhopper7542 Trust me Collin, it has minuscule value as aero, it generally ADDS a bit of weight to the vehicle that partially or wholly offsets the aero. It's another case where just because we CAN do it doesn't mean we SHOULD do it. Wind tunnel aero numbers get fed into the formula used in another test facility where emissions and fuel economy are extrapolated from exhaust gas collected. Sometimes, you need to find a tweek to get 0.1 mpg more out of the formula so the CAFE label goes up a whole mpg in rounding. The car being certified isn't moving, so an aero value is plugged into the formula to simulate movement. Occasionally something like that shield can deflect heat from catalysts or exhaust pipes from heating up the passenger compartment floor, but that's a rare thing better accomplished other ways that cost less in material expense and assembly labor. IDK why Toyota has that one there, but it's in the way of servicing the oil filter. I say get rid of it. I spent my career in automotive engineering. We did a lot of things because of how it impacts the government's formulas for measurement of emissions and fuel economy on the dynamometers, where vehicles get certified to meet regulations. Once, we added an otherwise unnecessary bar of steel next to the transmission, called it a harmonic noise canceler. It did that, but the real reason was so we could group 2 car lines into the same emissions weight class, the bar added enough weight to the lighter car so they could be grouped together, and cut certification cost in half. It was legal, but to customers it made little difference to real-world fuel economy or noise. A true "skid-plate" has functional value, yes. But one made of thermoplastic, not metal, has limited value against a granite boulder.
@@collinhopper7542 You will have to translate your abbreviation. It's 3 in the morning, and my mind doesn't get the TRD. Real trucks use metal skid plates though. Toyota always cuts corners if they can get away with it. Their pickup truck two generations ago had outer sheet metal so thin, it was extremely easy to dent it with just thumb pressure. I saw a display vehicle of theirs at an Auto Show one year that had to be removed and replaced, because it looked like a hail storm had hit it, there were so many dents made by spectators walking past the truck. Word spread like wildfire how cheap the fenders were, so everyone was doing the thumb test all day long that day. But like everything else, Toyota owners ignored that obvious bad quality and continued to rate their vehicle high in quality anyway.
My skid plate screws have disappeared at the various Toyota dealerships over the last 4 years. It's annoying. All skid plates should have access panels.
the solution to tow hooks is so easy, since day one I've had at least 4 methods in head that would work. any ways I was going to state Two things every new car owner should do right off the dealer lot. 1.) A 2-8 year ceramic coating for the paint 2.) fluid film the underside those two things will save both the paint and the underside from damage and rust for years to come keeping every thing looking new. not only is it not to expensive to have done but you just invested 40k-80k on a vehicle this will protect your investment on resale or for services. nothing like paying a hour of labor for service tech to hate you struggling to get a rusty bolt out or having to buy all new hardware every time you get a aliment since the bolts don't work properly any more.
I have a 2001 F150 I have owned since new. Yes, it has all that rust on the rear axle housing. It has been there since day one. It is cast iron, it gets surface rust, it is NORMAL. 21 years later and it is EXACTLY THE SAME. It is funny how so many people made a big deal out of it, when they have zero clue what they are really looking at.
Rust is cancer for vehicles and if you live where it snows it will get worse he mentioned the hangers for the exhaust on the Ford were rusty and it will eventually break overtime now axles is different but that's not the only rust spots the Ford's had pretty much the whole undercarriage had surface rust some concerning spots and some arent
@Rick and I'm pretty sure you don't drive it on the snow and if you do that's vehicle cruelty 😂 but if you did your car would be full of uncontrollable rust
see a lot of weight reduction, skid plates should be metal. Too bad about the access to the oil filter, making it less user friendly. Also, something about a skirt dropping for oil service, what is going on, haha. Looks like trucks keep getting more complicated, just to meet the new EPE standards. Impressed with lack of rust, I guess they learned from their expensive mistake with Tacoma's frames rotting out.
I wouldn't be so sold on the lack of rust at this point. Check the frame after five years in the rust belt that will be the true test of whether they fixed the frame rot issue.
Just picked up my 2022 Tundra 1794 Edition 4x4. There is rust on a few parts in the engine as well as a few nuts/bolts around the truck. Guessing this happened during shipping? The dealership knows about it as I called as soon as I got home and started looking around a lot closer. I know its my bad for not seeing it prior to taking delivery of it, but I would imagine Toyota will take care of it. Thoughts guys?
Excellent walk around. Thanks. As a dude with a deposit on a Limited TRD Offroad, I'm also super interested in seeing how the aftermarket does front and rear bumpers (front with tow hooks) given this design. I'm sure there will be options, but there are some design constraints they'll have to work through.
With that grille, I would doubt there will be much the aftermarket can do about a different bumper up front. That would be a major tear up, and likely cause a powertrain warranty issue. They'll probably come up with down-hanging tow hooks attached to the frame somewhere, that will get exposed to damage and banged around by off-roaders because they reduce clearance.
To me, it looks like the least intrusive way to gain tow hooks would be to remove the air dam and install a front receiver. It looks like the frame has holes that would accept carriage bolts with back plates once the air dam is removed. Like others have said, I'm sure someone also will develop a bolt-on tow hook kit that could potentially work using those four mounting bolts for the front crash bar.
Just an FYI, Ford went back to coating parts that they weren't coating. My 2021 October build has no rust. The exhaust shouldn't rust if it's stainless steel, which it probably is. The brackets are probably just zinc coated, it's not a different metal. Unless it's stainless. There are different grades of zinc coatings. That's just a plastic fuel tank guard in case something gets kicked up into the fuel tank, I think I'd like to see a metal guard on the TRD. Great video!
With the oil filter situation. Could you possibly reach in and twist it off? Or.....maybe we could just pull the 2 rear bolts and the skid plate would drop just enough to access it? Without removing the front bolts?
I'm in the market for a new truck..I'm glad I got to see this video doing a oil change looks like a pain on this truck.. I do my own oil changes so this might have me looking at something else.
It actually looks about the same if not a bit easier than the previous trucks. I’ve got a 2018 and it takes the cartridge filter. You also need to drop a metal skid plate that isn’t easy to get back on. I really wish they made the filter more accessible.
@@jmac2482 I believe you..it just seems like a bad way to sell a truck. But I'm sure that their are plenty of people that don't mind getting ripped off on oil changes.
If you travel gravel roads it doesnt matter how much paint the diff housing has on it, it will get blasted off. My 2018 f350 frame looks lime brand new yet except for the front of the diff housing. My 2016 peterbilt has no paint on the front of the diff housing anymore either and that has very thick paint on it when new but the gravel roads have removed that too. Its gonna happen. Plain and simple
Toyota will have to redesign the stupid air dam to allow tow hooks to be compatible. Usually there is a bracket that is bolted inside the front frame rails that the tow how would be bolted too. If it was my truck I’d remove the two rear cats, aftermarket muffler and take that air dam off before the snow and ice does it for me.
Well I cannot address the "pumpkin " on your 2022 , but I can on the 2002 I just traded . I DID have to replace the whole rear axle housing in 2012 , because ... A hole HAD rusted through the bottom of the pumpkin . The shop I first took it to , said they had seen the same on a Toy 4 Runner 2002 also.
Bought my 2022 Tundra Platinum in March 2022, brand new, in Anchorage, AK. Drove it down to the panhandle of Nebraska and now I’m seeing spots of surface rust on the body. I have crawled underneath yet. Anybody else seeing this? Will Toyota cover this issue?
The turn radius of the 22 tundra is must greater than the 21 and some people say the trucks added length is making it tight to get into most garages in the USA…Hmmmm
Sir: My wife and I live in Michigan. (lots of salt on the road in the winter) My wife just bought a 2021 Toyota Hybrid and I have a deposit on a 2022 Toyota 4X4 max when they come out in March 2022. Should I have both vehicles undercoated by a company like Zebart? Will that add a lot of weight? Could it do damage to the vehicles? Thanks Tim
Saw one today at a Toyota dealer just north of where Tim picked his up. It was blue. Sorry, for what the buyer said he bought it for, non hybrid model, there’s nothing that would entice me to buy. I can get a 3/4 ton for less with similar options. My wife loved my old Tundra and even she said this new model has a awful, not just looks, but even the bed area. 4 cats to have to change out in future, gas mileage is turning out to be average at best. Tow hook issue is just another one to add to the negatives list.
Thanks, Tim! I was looking forward to this. I agree with you about the easy access panel for oil changes. I am really interested in finding out how and where Toyota would put the tow hooks.
My son’s high school and college car was a 2002 Avalon. The car was driven in upstate NY, salt country, since new. He had it for just over 9 years and recently sold it and bought a new Hyundai. The exhaust on the Avalon was original! QDR!
Tim, Looks like there is no bumper on the side. What happens if you hit the side of the truck where a traditional number would be? Replace the quarter panel?
No I think Toyota solved that problem with this truck. On every other truck with a wrap around bumper, when that corner gets hit, the bumper gets pushed into the quarter panel/bed side leading to a costly repair. On this truck the quarter panel stops above the bumper and a plastic panel fills in the bottom which can easily be replaced.
Tim misidentifies more than he identifies. lol Oil Tank? Steel Bumper Beam? Cast iron axle housing? Aluminum bumper caps? Different grades of zinc? There are different grades of stainless steel used on exhaust systems. As commentor mentioned, aluminum + steel = galvanic corrosion... Toyota had a severe rust issue with frames in the past. It would be good to find out what type of coating process they use now on their frames, compared to the big 3.
Interesting video Tim. Thanks for going into this level of detail under the truck. Very nice👍 . For many reasons I had already taken the 22 Tundra off our fleet shopping list. Seeing that rear bumper design, looks like a power lift gate (Tommy gate) is not happening on this new generation. . We bought 2 2021 Tundra extended cab long bed’s last spring. Those corner sensors are now fully exposed on our 2021’s and we had have custom brackets made for them and then pay the Toyota dealer $ 400 ea to recalibrate them. The 2021 was a PIA to put on our Tommy gates , looks near impossible on that 2022.
I like your videos. Like your genuine excitement. Long time Ford Super Duty guy that's been thinking of downgrading to a Toyota. But was going to a Tundra until I found out V8 is gone. Oh well, guess I'll stick with my 8,000 lb truck that gets same mileage as a Tacoma...hope the new tech doesn't have a huge amount of issues. But no doubt there will be some. Also, I have to ask...what is a Ford F50? And that large aluminum beam up front I'm pretty sure is, well, aluminum. And the axle housing is not cast iron. Keep them coming.
Look at the High clearance bumpers aftermarket makes currently for the Tacoma, they cut the fenders up higher for the bumper to make it high clearance. Wouldn’t be hard for them to add a step
Only problem is, the corners of the rear bumper are actually body panels. Looks like u will have to cut up your rear quarter panel if u want to put any type of bumper on it.
Those aren't really skid plates. They are just some slightly protective covers. They are going to do nothing for hitting rocks but they will be fine for smaller rocks that are flung up and hit them type of thing.
Did the back wheels have a plastic guard over the rear tires? Is the salt going to get thrown all the way to the back door and into the back bumper? Great VIDEO!!
@Fish Bowl Wow; Castrol!!! That stuff is the s$*t!! I have used Castro in everything since my first vehicle: 1985 Toyota Xtracab pickup.I'm only switching to the Mobil 1 fully synthetic, because it is what Toyota uses. My buddies have been using it for a while, so I'm going with it, based on Toyota's recommendations.
I'm a Toyota fan and this new Tundra looks pretty good but I have'nt seen any discussion on the engine package. I watched an LC300 discussion on youtube and the entire power train and undercarriage had been removed and on display and it has the twin turbo V6, i'm guessing same as the Tundra. If so, you cannot see any of the "core " engine even when removed from chassis and on an engine stand it is COMPLETLY covered by hoses and coolers, very nicely packaged, but if you have to do anything at all to the engine it will be a nightmare and/or very expensive labor wise in my opinion and I would have to think twice about it.
You dinged Ford for the same kind of rust spots on their rear differential, or around it, Tim. But on this video, you're ok with it on a Toyota. I have to call a foul, to be fair. Personally, I don't care about such surface rust on either truck, it's not visible unless you go underneath looking for it, and it has no bearing whatsoever on part function or long-term durability. I know you agree in that. But I just don't get the neurosis over surface rust. lol Good that you pointed out the oil filter location. Not only is it hard to access, but looks like it will dump used oil on parts below it, when you take the old one off. At 40K miles per year, I'd be doing that a lot of times. Not good.
Next year for me. Tundra is too big. My Silverado I may have to buy but would like to downsize to Tacoma or Ridgeline. Am Very concerned with the Tacoma here in Michigan. My '05 Accord is still awesome so Honda may win! Or if I have to the Silverado I may be forced to buyout lease! $$ Would be nice to see Tacoma and Ridgeline underneath too! Thanks
The best practice is to spay it now with Fluid Film Rust & Corrosion Protection, at least once a year. Toyota trucks body frame are not rust resistant...
@@Pickuptrucktalk If Toyota had put a step bumper on and charged $400 more for the truck would you still have bought one? Just sayin. Your payin for it one way or the other!
It's nice to see the underbody on trucks. I don't mind rust on the thick metal of the axles, but you definitely shouldn't see rust on the frame early on. I would be curious to compare some that are a few years old - might be an idea for some videos for you. GM is likely the worst with their waxed frames. Thanks for the video.
Tim is just blowing the doors off of every other channel right now. He comes on here and totally speaks the truth and is giving a 100% fair and accurate review of the all new Tundra. Total transparency with this guy. He deserves a million subscribers for his honestly and integrity alone. Good Job keep it up ✌💯💯
I agree 100%👍
Because of him letting us know we have to pay rent for using horn I'm going to wait and see what happens before deciding to pull trigger on '22
I agree also!!!! One million subscribers!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍 Thank you Tim for all the information that you bring to us!!!👍👍👍👍👍
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS ME TOO!
Lots of click bait too
Good video!
Couple things just to clarify for audience:
Bumper structure is beyond aircraft grade strength aluminum, not steel. I am heavily involved in the production of that unit and it’s assembly. It’s tough!
Got your terminology backwards on the filter. It’s a canister not a cartridge. Last tundra used a cartridge. This is a simple spin on canister thankfully.
Exhaust on Toyotas are stainless steel including the hangers.
The previous generation Tundra also had 4 cats.
Skid plates are high impact polyethylene which won’t dent or rust like steel. The Pro would have a heavy aluminum front skid and additional steel skids.
Great comments! Why no factory recovery hooks from Toyota?
@@mini2nut67 aerodynamics. 99% of buyers will never use a damn tow hook.
@@DirtE30 Thanks. That confirms what I was thinking.
@@DirtE30 You must not live or have any experience in snowy climates. Sorry, but you're WRONG.
@@DirtE30 probably more like 90%
I have to say this is the best video I’ve seen on the Tundra so far. You aren’t force feeding all the same old specs that all the other
Automotive channels are. Great job on this one.
I’m interested in aftermarket tow hooks for sure. It’s important for me to have and I just cannot believe Toyota left them off.
Yeah, makes no sense. 🤔
Good luck. I checked the Toyota site and you can't even add them as an accessory. It looks like an aftermarket option is going to be really difficult with that new design.
Mike Sweers said they would be available through the dealership in the TFL interview
They probably thought no one would notice and then planned ahead so they could charge out the ass for them!!
Never needed to use them personally, and neither does 99% of the population.
Hi Tim, Thanks a lot for all your videos on your new tundra. I have a 2015 tundra limited and live in central Yukon, Canada. I' ve pushed my truck beyond it's "described" limits on every aspect (working in firewood business, up to 15000lbs loads...-50c temperatures....-30's cold start, every time, all this truck as to say is "that's all you got?") and I have been amazed with it. I am following of course carefully what the 2.0 version of my beloved truck could be. Thanks a lot! You are followed all the way up North....way north. Your insight won't go unnoticed. I might wait a year or so to get all the computer bugs aspects all figured out... but if we ever have a platinum, 6.5ft bed, with trd off road, in hybrid in Canada....yop...i might be in for that! again, tks a lot!
That's because Toyota under rates their trucks, where as the Detroit 3 over rate theirs. The the Tundra has always been the best truck.
Tim you are amazing !!!
Your details about the tundra are like no other !!!!
No one has taken the the time to explain everything about this truck !!
My hat is off to you !
Tim, you're channel is outstanding on your Tundra information. Good info & not fluff. I have a large local dealer & they don't have one you can see. Only received 1 & it was quickly delivered. Your channel is my source. I've owned 3 Tundra's & due for a new truck.
Thank you Tim for everything that you do. We really appreciate these kinds of videos that we don’t get anywhere else 👍 A+++
Really glad to see they moved the big heavy fuel tank on the passenger side. The previous models were notorious in leaning towards the drivers side. Everything was on that side! Tank, driver, battery, transfer case, front diff and driveshaft on 4x4 models.
Love this review!! Real review!!! The best review I’ve watched-- practical information I need/want to see. Keep up the great work, Tim!!!!
That front bumper looks like structural aluminum and not steel. That's good and bad. The good is that it's as strong as steel on initial impact while being better at dissipating energy in a severe collision. The bad is, those bolts that mount it to the frame appear to be steel... and if salt/brine makes it's way up in there, you'll get some pretty serious galvanic action... i.e. corrosion. Something to keep and eye on.
There will absolutely be galvanic corrosion wherever steel and aluminum meet. It's inevitable.
It’s coated
Thanks for the video Tim. 👍 There are a couple of deal breakers on the design here. You are right about the tow hooks. It will be nearly impossible to mount any. Also, the rear bumper corners being body panels...that is a real bone head move building them like that. I am at a loss for words seeing how they put that together.
Yep, it looks like if you're hit in the corner of either side of the rear you will be replacing rear quarter panels. Very poor engineering.
@@rebelcitysports1outlook747 exactly. Just don't get into a fender bender 😋
Thanks for the oil filter location and intervals info. Cheers Tim. Keep the info coming. I can read a brochure anytime but the little things are what I am interested in. Probably won’t see one here in Ont till Jan sometime. 👍🏻
Head down to Simcoe Toyota, they have a sweet Limited in wind chill pearl. I test drove it just last week
I’m a Toyota guy and have been for 30+ years and honestly I was waiting for this new tundra to come out , but went ahead and purchased top of the line Tacoma in the TRD ORDC 4x4 with LED lights lights , and the more I’m seeing these newer trucks with all the bells and whistles and turbos, & hybrids the more I’m liking the older designs , not a fan of this new tundra at all from looks to the design to the motors , but that’s just me & my opinion I’m old school . Looks like I will drive my 2021 Tacoma till I die …..
Toyota does have a factory fold out rear bumper step option ($395.) that is very functional. I installed an aftermarket one same design on my 2014 Tundra and it has held up very well.
This is the 2022, they may not have it.
@@bettysmith4527 The fold out step is an option on 2022's in the configurator.
I was so excited for this truck because I knew there was going to be some great engineering behind it. Unfortunately there are a few things that I couldn’t live with. Hopefully a small refresh takes care of them.
Just like video games 🎮 🕹 we the players know the in and outs of what we play or drive for years and yet some how some way everything gets fu ked up🙄
Thanks for showing how the truck's undercarriage has held up so far.
I live near Toronto, they pour salt down here. I oil undercoat my vehicles every fall. My 2008 Tacoma sprayed every fall still looked new after 10 years, now I have a 2017 Tundra and same thing, oil sprayed every fall, still looks new.
Would you tell what oil and sprayer? Thanks in advance.
@@HY-xf4ru This is where I go. The oil is sprayed on with a wand that mists inside the rockers, doors, quarters. Then they spray the underside with a spray gun. The best part is it protects brake lines and the wiring harness too. Todays wire insulation is Soy based and mice and chipmunks love it, but they hate the oil.
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Thanks Doug!!
@@HY-xf4ru Project Farm has the best comparison videos. He compares undercoating in this video. What ever you use, it needs to be applied with a wand that mists the inside of the frame and panels. It can be messy so I just pay to have it done.
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Good job on the undercarriage review. Everything looks solid except the plastic protective fuel tank plate and rear bumper. If you do get front end damage it looks like you’ll get major damage to the air dam and it’s motor assembly, oil cooler and other structures before the “massive piece of steel” piece starts to protect what’s behind it. Nitpicking brings me to the single exhaust outlet. Excellent review as always.
I’ve just came to a couple of conclusions about my prior statement. Maybe the hard plastic shield under the fuel tank is designed to take an impact without causing a spark in case there is a leak or seep in the fuel system. The plastic pieces on the sides of the bumper allow the rear backing safety sense to operate properly. The single side exhaust is also a safety feature. It is on the opposite side of the fuel tank. Also where would another exhaust pipe be routed? I would rather have the full sized spare tire so it makes sense what Toyota did in that regard as well. I really can’t find anything that I would do differently than what Toyota did, except keep the reliable V8.
Great video I just bought a brand new 2020 22 Toyota Tacoma was wondering how important it is to get undercoat it should I be worried about this type of thing I bought it with a lease to buy afterwards I'm afraid if I get an undercoat it the warranty will not hold up
Hi Tim ,
Thanks for the show and tell,
Much appreciated.
Hey Tim I haven't heard anybody comment of whether they think you'll be able to put a plow on the new tundra, thoughts?
I don't ever hope to use tow hooks for recovery as I don't off road and hopefully stay on the road otherwise, however I do carry canoe's from time to time and being able to tie the front down (and back) is critical especially in windy conditions. A simple pop out piece on either side of the bumper with a recovery screw in hook (like some of the German brands) would even suffice. Attaching a strap down and around that air dam is likely going to be problematic. Keep up the great work.
I always get a kick out of people complaining about having rust on the undercarriage of their vehicle, but yet The same people won’t spend the money to get it properly protected, aka Undercoated.🤷🏼♂️
Undercoating is only worth it when brand new
Nice to see it's finally a fully boxed frame.
Tim,
You should really look into Landcruiser and Lexus platforms and how aftermarket bumpers are being added to create overlander platforms. You have to understand Landcruiser Ave Tundra platforms are not melted together
Good job and great info- just not sold on it. I loved my 5.7 though.
Thanks to Tim pointing out rust on undercarriages I went to look at a 2019 Ford f150 with 18k miles on it . Carfax said it was from Michigan. Truck was a beauty with all the options. Crawled under it and everything was rusty and the brake lines had corrosion forming. There was even dried cement under it lime it had been on a construction site where they were pouring cement. Walked away!
@@upsidedownin291 That always puzzled me from American trucks built in the Midwest. Are they secretly partners with Ziebart?
Question Tim. If your rear corner bumper gets hit your actually damaging the side bed body of the truck?? That would be a much more expensive job to fix. Even a light accident would cause significant damage. Is there a way to replace the rear corner body?
You would just replace the whole piece. I’ve talked to numerous body shop people and they are all moving towards replacing panels rather than hammering them flat again. This panel looks engineered to be replaced and not repaired.
Tim, your videos are awesome! I think you just talked me "out" of a new Tundra. My 2019 TRD PRO is amazing. I don't think I could deal with that oil filter. I perform my own oil changes, and minor maintenance. My TRD PRO has the access door. A previous Tundra which I owned had the pesky skid plate removal for all oil changes. I ended up cutting a hole in the skid plate for access. I am happy to see that Toyota finally went back to the traditional oil filter, but am highly disappointed in its placement. That bumper issue is horrendous. Also, tow hooks are a must! Keep. em coming, bud. Do we know if the 2022 TRD PRO will have an access panel for the oil filter, as in previous years?
Well said!!
If that is a traditional oil filter and it's placed up there like that, then you can pretty much say good bye to how you see it now. No access door and like a huge PITA to do your own oil changes in the new TRD Pro! The 2019 was great because of all you mentioned!
The biggest downfall of the 2022 Tundra TRD Pro is it's losing almost 5 degrees of approach angle versus the 2021 Tundra TRD Pro, due to that grotesque front fascia.
@@rebelcitysports1outlook747 Yes!! Spot on!!!
If one gets stuck in a mud hole, I doubt reaching any logical connection point under the front end would be remotely possible.
Toyota dropped the ball on this one.
I hate the plastic skid plates and Toyota is not the only one using them. I would have concerns with the muffler hanging below the frame and the shock mounts on the rear axle look pretty vulnerable to damage since they hang down so low.
almost all side by sides now come with HRDM plastic skid plates, its lighter than steel, takes a crazy beating and actually helps slide over rocks better.
Yuk on having to remove stuff just for an oil change. Great details Tim. Your on a roll 👍
AAA just cut a hole in the skid plate. lol
They got it half right they did get rid of the cannister type of filter
Nothing beats my 2018 f350 with the 6.7. Oil filter and drain plug are right beside each other and very easy to get at. Having to put the air dam in service mode seems like a f*#k show
Interesting to see the bottom of a Toyota. Very well built truck.
Need go to line x before you get too mini miles on to make it lasts I did I keeping my 2014 for ever don’t like new technology .great video.
How Common is it for the fuel tank to be located on the opposite side than the filler door with the fill tube running a crossed top the muffler that seems like a fire hazard
Bottom line it should have came with tow hooks from the factory. Personally I’d never hardly ever get a truck this nice and expensive in something that rough but I still want tow hooks not only just for looks but just in case too.
I agree. Any full size truck should have tow hooks. You don't need to be offloading to need them.
@@bxp1696 100% agree. Anyone debating this issue hasn't ever experienced snowy or icy climates.
The oil filter is a canister not a cartridge like you said. I think you got them mixed up.
That front skid plate is mighty small. 4Runner still uses metal fuel tank skid plate. Tacoma went with plastic cover.
Did you find anything out on why the heated steering wheel wasn’t working hardly? Curious on what mike said on that issue. Thanks
I haven’t. It’s on my list. Sounds like other Toyota vehicles have a similar issue.
I always hit the underside with a can or two of por-15 when I buy a new truck. Even on my Ram they do paint it but they only paint certain spots. 95% of rust you see on any of these vehicles wont matter there is a few certain spots you want to get a nice coat on but its basically for appearances sake.
Try the new PB blaster surface shield awesome stuff spray your frame and everything that might rust great stuff protects your investment 👍🛻
@Fish Bowl Old school farmers spray used transmission fluid on the undercarriages of farm equipment to prevent rust. Cheap and effective!
The dot of paint you pointed to is an inspection marker I believe. Means it passed qc inspection.
This, and Truck King, are the best truck channels out there. Sooooooo much better than TFL by a long shot.
Thanks for the undercarriage walk around!! Seems like they used the same composite in the skid plates that they used in the bed.
Definitely interested in seeing how corrosion is held back after the full winter’s exposure!! Oil filter behind an underbody cover. 🙁 A pain.
Last gen had the filter covered by the skid plate. Lots of people complain about it but I find it very easy to remove. Never a problem for me
The under carriage looks to be of quality with everything painted properly. Also first pickup I've scene with plastic rocker panel covers, at least when they start to rust you won't see it.
I just started watching your videos and I’m really enjoying them, I own a 2021 and was considering getting the 2022, but now Im rethinking the whole thing. I like the 2022 but I’m not jumping up and down, especially the gas mileage doesn’t seem so great, you didn’t seem to get wonderful mpg on your trip back.
Very nice video, must people don’t show this stuff.
I still don’t understand what Toyota trucks other than the TRD Pro don’t have dual exhaust pipes all the way to the back. This would have been a nice addition for this time around, maybe it is not needed, but I am sure it looks nicer
If anyone has to worry about having their catalytic converter stolen, they might want to consider moving rather than buying a new truck! 🤣
😁
Friend of mine had his cat stolen in olive garden parking lot
2007-2021 Tundra's have been really good for not rusting besides the rear bumper on the 2007-2013. I live in eastern Canada where vehicle rust is a huge problem. GM trucks after 1998 and Rams been the worse in my area.
Depends how you take care of your truck I've seen them all have major rust issues it's how well you take care of your truck under carriage washes not putting thick tires that stick out without fender flares so the the fender flares don't start to rust Ford avoided that with aluminum but then you look underneath and it's all rust all Americans did have paint issues which sucks but if someone put 3m protection rust wouldn't be an issue
Fluid film or any other high quality oil spray will keep rust down tremendously in the salt areas.
Wrong, many tundras have had the frames replaced due to rust issues including my own also the bed floor is rotting out on mine and the rear bumper as you mentioned. I'm a huge Toyota fan but all three of the trucks I've had over the years the frames rusted out on. '86 pickup, '03 tundra, '07 tundra.
It's because Toyota builds a better truck.
I think catalytic thefts are happening everywhere right now, I'm not sure what the solution is. Best bet is probably an aftermarket alarm system and a well vented skid plate that makes it difficult to remove them.
I would look into relocating that oil filter. Put it on the top of the engine, and a spin on conventional filter. Those plastic filter housings can crack when they get over torqued by oil change places or dealerships.
It's a metal conventional oil filter, not plastic.
But no to it being relocated on top of engine, where you will get oil dumped on things every oil change. It's ok where it is here, but Toyota should lose the "beauty shield" that so many manufacturers have been adding to engine and underbody areas. They always add inconvenience, but little value.
@@rayrussell6258 The beauty shield, or "skid plate" is a functional thermal management and aero management device.
@@collinhopper7542 Trust me Collin, it has minuscule value as aero, it generally ADDS a bit of weight to the vehicle that partially or wholly offsets the aero. It's another case where just because we CAN do it doesn't mean we SHOULD do it. Wind tunnel aero numbers get fed into the formula used in another test facility where emissions and fuel economy are extrapolated from exhaust gas collected. Sometimes, you need to find a tweek to get 0.1 mpg more out of the formula so the CAFE label goes up a whole mpg in rounding. The car being certified isn't moving, so an aero value is plugged into the formula to simulate movement.
Occasionally something like that shield can deflect heat from catalysts or exhaust pipes from heating up the passenger compartment floor, but that's a rare thing better accomplished other ways that cost less in material expense and assembly labor. IDK why Toyota has that one there, but it's in the way of servicing the oil filter. I say get rid of it.
I spent my career in automotive engineering. We did a lot of things because of how it impacts the government's formulas for measurement of emissions and fuel economy on the dynamometers, where vehicles get certified to meet regulations.
Once, we added an otherwise unnecessary bar of steel next to the transmission, called it a harmonic noise canceler. It did that, but the real reason was so we could group 2 car lines into the same emissions weight class, the bar added enough weight to the lighter car so they could be grouped together, and cut certification cost in half. It was legal, but to customers it made little difference to real-world fuel economy or noise.
A true "skid-plate" has functional value, yes. But one made of thermoplastic, not metal, has limited value against a granite boulder.
@@rayrussell6258 Thermoplastic "skid plate" is reason for TRD packages.
@@collinhopper7542 You will have to translate your abbreviation. It's 3 in the morning, and my mind doesn't get the TRD.
Real trucks use metal skid plates though.
Toyota always cuts corners if they can get away with it. Their pickup truck two generations ago had outer sheet metal so thin, it was extremely easy to dent it with just thumb pressure. I saw a display vehicle of theirs at an Auto Show one year that had to be removed and replaced, because it looked like a hail storm had hit it, there were so many dents made by spectators walking past the truck. Word spread like wildfire how cheap the fenders were, so everyone was doing the thumb test all day long that day. But like everything else, Toyota owners ignored that obvious bad quality and continued to rate their vehicle high in quality anyway.
My skid plate screws have disappeared at the various Toyota dealerships over the last 4 years. It's annoying. All skid plates should have access panels.
Good luck using the control arms as a recovery point
the solution to tow hooks is so easy, since day one I've had at least 4 methods in head that would work.
any ways I was going to state Two things every new car owner should do right off the dealer lot.
1.) A 2-8 year ceramic coating for the paint
2.) fluid film the underside
those two things will save both the paint and the underside from damage and rust for years to come keeping every thing looking new. not only is it not to expensive to have done but you just invested 40k-80k on a vehicle this will protect your investment on resale or for services. nothing like paying a hour of labor for service tech to hate you struggling to get a rusty bolt out or having to buy all new hardware every time you get a aliment since the bolts don't work properly any more.
I have a 2001 F150 I have owned since new. Yes, it has all that rust on the rear axle housing. It has been there since day one. It is cast iron, it gets surface rust, it is NORMAL.
21 years later and it is EXACTLY THE SAME.
It is funny how so many people made a big deal out of it, when they have zero clue what they are really looking at.
Rust is cancer for vehicles and if you live where it snows it will get worse he mentioned the hangers for the exhaust on the Ford were rusty and it will eventually break overtime now axles is different but that's not the only rust spots the Ford's had pretty much the whole undercarriage had surface rust some concerning spots and some arent
My F350 same way. But axle housing are NOT cast iron. Bare steel yes
@Rick and I'm pretty sure you don't drive it on the snow and if you do that's vehicle cruelty 😂 but if you did your car would be full of uncontrollable rust
@@dor1tomcswagger69 I live where it snows, not too much, about 60 inches a year.
@Rick thats car cruelty 😭 rinsing or not
Love it, Tim! I have a 2017 Taco and LOTS of rust. Need to make sure they solved the problem.
Yes! How is it still an issue with Toyota? After having such a problem historically you'd think they would have eliminated the issue. pce
I don't understand how Toyota has been dealing with this since 2000.
Try the new PB blaster surface shield great stuff spray your frame and everything else that might rust great stuff 👍
see a lot of weight reduction, skid plates should be metal. Too bad about the access to the oil filter, making it less user friendly. Also, something about a skirt dropping for oil service, what is going on, haha. Looks like trucks keep getting more complicated, just to meet the new EPE standards. Impressed with lack of rust, I guess they learned from their expensive mistake with Tacoma's frames rotting out.
@Fish Bowl I also wonder about access to the turbos when they eventually fail. Do you have to lift the body off the frame like a Ford?
I wouldn't be so sold on the lack of rust at this point. Check the frame after five years in the rust belt that will be the true test of whether they fixed the frame rot issue.
@Fish Bowl The V6 Toyotas had 4 cats a long time, at least as far back as 03’ on the 4Runner
@@jmac2482 I would apply liquid film type of undercoating right away, self healing one.
Just picked up my 2022 Tundra 1794 Edition 4x4. There is rust on a few parts in the engine as well as a few nuts/bolts around the truck. Guessing this happened during shipping? The dealership knows about it as I called as soon as I got home and started looking around a lot closer. I know its my bad for not seeing it prior to taking delivery of it, but I would imagine Toyota will take care of it. Thoughts guys?
Where are garlands of non-braided wires dangling under carriage?? so used to those in GMC built trucks.
Excellent walk around. Thanks. As a dude with a deposit on a Limited TRD Offroad, I'm also super interested in seeing how the aftermarket does front and rear bumpers (front with tow hooks) given this design. I'm sure there will be options, but there are some design constraints they'll have to work through.
With that grille, I would doubt there will be much the aftermarket can do about a different bumper up front. That would be a major tear up, and likely cause a powertrain warranty issue. They'll probably come up with down-hanging tow hooks attached to the frame somewhere, that will get exposed to damage and banged around by off-roaders because they reduce clearance.
Keep up the great content Tim. As a potential 3rd Gen Tundra buyer I love the content.
As an owner of a 2020 Sierra AT4 (15 Months) and a 2021 Silverado Trail Boss (8 months), neither had any rust new, nor do they today
To me, it looks like the least intrusive way to gain tow hooks would be to remove the air dam and install a front receiver. It looks like the frame has holes that would accept carriage bolts with back plates once the air dam is removed. Like others have said, I'm sure someone also will develop a bolt-on tow hook kit that could potentially work using those four mounting bolts for the front crash bar.
Just an FYI, Ford went back to coating parts that they weren't coating. My 2021 October build has no rust. The exhaust shouldn't rust if it's stainless steel, which it probably is. The brackets are probably just zinc coated, it's not a different metal. Unless it's stainless. There are different grades of zinc coatings. That's just a plastic fuel tank guard in case something gets kicked up into the fuel tank, I think I'd like to see a metal guard on the TRD. Great video!
muffler hangers dont rust toyota should use that concept to the frame
With the oil filter situation. Could you possibly reach in and twist it off? Or.....maybe we could just pull the 2 rear bolts and the skid plate would drop just enough to access it? Without removing the front bolts?
I'm in the market for a new truck..I'm glad I got to see this video doing a oil change looks like a pain on this truck.. I do my own oil changes so this might have me looking at something else.
It actually looks about the same if not a bit easier than the previous trucks. I’ve got a 2018 and it takes the cartridge filter. You also need to drop a metal skid plate that isn’t easy to get back on. I really wish they made the filter more accessible.
They make it difficult on purpose so that most people will just bring it in to the stealership to have the maintenance done
@@jmac2482 I believe you..it just seems like a bad way to sell a truck. But I'm sure that their are plenty of people that don't mind getting ripped off on oil changes.
If you travel gravel roads it doesnt matter how much paint the diff housing has on it, it will get blasted off. My 2018 f350 frame looks lime brand new yet except for the front of the diff housing. My 2016 peterbilt has no paint on the front of the diff housing anymore either and that has very thick paint on it when new but the gravel roads have removed that too. Its gonna happen. Plain and simple
Toyota will have to redesign the stupid air dam to allow tow hooks to be compatible. Usually there is a bracket that is bolted inside the front frame rails that the tow how would be bolted too. If it was my truck I’d remove the two rear cats, aftermarket muffler and take that air dam off before the snow and ice does it for me.
The catalytic converter issue is a serious concern for some...Well Done!
Well I cannot address the "pumpkin " on your 2022 , but I can on the 2002 I just traded . I DID have to replace the whole rear axle housing in 2012 , because ... A hole HAD rusted through the bottom of the pumpkin . The shop I first took it to , said they had seen the same on a Toy 4 Runner 2002 also.
Bought my 2022 Tundra Platinum in March 2022, brand new, in Anchorage, AK. Drove it down to the panhandle of Nebraska and now I’m seeing spots of surface rust on the body. I have crawled underneath yet. Anybody else seeing this? Will Toyota cover this issue?
odd. I haven't seen anything like that or heard of it. BTW, you should have stopped by. I live in the panhandle of Nebraska.
The turn radius of the 22 tundra is must greater than the 21 and some people say the trucks added length is making it tight to get into most garages in the USA…Hmmmm
Huh. Isn’t it obvious though the longer of a truck, the harder to turn? It has been that way for decades with HD trucks.
Hey wonder if you put any aftermarket tires or a leveling kit on. If so what size wheel and tires with no rubbing?
Sir: My wife and I live in Michigan. (lots of salt on the road in the winter) My wife just bought a 2021 Toyota Hybrid and I have a deposit on a 2022 Toyota 4X4 max when they come out in March 2022. Should I have both vehicles undercoated by a company like Zebart? Will that add a lot of weight? Could it do damage to the vehicles? Thanks Tim
I would. Extra protection.
Saw one today at a Toyota dealer just north of where Tim picked his up. It was blue. Sorry, for what the buyer said he bought it for, non hybrid model, there’s nothing that would entice me to buy. I can get a 3/4 ton for less with similar options.
My wife loved my old Tundra and even she said this new model has a awful, not just looks, but even the bed area. 4 cats to have to change out in future, gas mileage is turning out to be average at best. Tow hook issue is just another one to add to the negatives list.
No V8.
Thanks, Tim! I was looking forward to this. I agree with you about the easy access panel for oil changes. I am really interested in finding out how and where Toyota would put the tow hooks.
on that stupid skid plate then when you tear it off tring to pull your truck it will be a breeze to get to the oil filter
My son’s high school and college car was a 2002 Avalon. The car was driven in upstate NY, salt country, since new. He had it for just over 9 years and recently sold it and bought a new Hyundai. The exhaust on the Avalon was original! QDR!
The old Avalon will outlast the new Hyundai in addition to being a big step down in car.
Im wondering about rear impact, do you replace the whole bed? Doesnt look like much rear protection
they're not metal, I don't think they're plastic......lmao this channel is gold!!!!
Wood?
@@joeblack1052 I was thinking Styrofoam
@@pryme2013 I was being facetious
Tim,
Looks like there is no bumper on the side. What happens if you hit the side of the truck where a traditional number would be? Replace the quarter panel?
You will absolutely be replacing body panels if you're hit on the corner of either side on the rear the truck.
No I think Toyota solved that problem with this truck. On every other truck with a wrap around bumper, when that corner gets hit, the bumper gets pushed into the quarter panel/bed side leading to a costly repair. On this truck the quarter panel stops above the bumper and a plastic panel fills in the bottom which can easily be replaced.
Any skid plates are better than none 👍
Only need to change oil every 10,000 miles or so ! Not a big problem ! My 07 tundra has 4 converters , nothing new here !
Tim misidentifies more than he identifies. lol
Oil Tank? Steel Bumper Beam? Cast iron axle housing? Aluminum bumper caps?
Different grades of zinc? There are different grades of stainless steel used on exhaust systems.
As commentor mentioned, aluminum + steel = galvanic corrosion...
Toyota had a severe rust issue with frames in the past. It would be good to find out what type of coating process they use now on their frames, compared to the big 3.
Keep on them about tow hooks. That makes it a no go for me with out them. I'm not laying in the mud to find a spot to hook.
Interesting video Tim. Thanks for going into this level of detail under the truck. Very nice👍 .
For many reasons I had already taken the 22 Tundra off our fleet shopping list.
Seeing that rear bumper design, looks like a power lift gate (Tommy gate) is not happening on this new generation. .
We bought 2 2021 Tundra extended cab long bed’s last spring. Those corner sensors are now fully exposed on our 2021’s and we had have custom brackets made for them and then pay the Toyota dealer $ 400 ea to recalibrate them. The 2021 was a PIA to put on our Tommy gates , looks near impossible on that 2022.
I like your videos. Like your genuine excitement. Long time Ford Super Duty guy that's been thinking of downgrading to a Toyota. But was going to a Tundra until I found out V8 is gone. Oh well, guess I'll stick with my 8,000 lb truck that gets same mileage as a Tacoma...hope the new tech doesn't have a huge amount of issues. But no doubt there will be some. Also, I have to ask...what is a Ford F50? And that large aluminum beam up front I'm pretty sure is, well, aluminum. And the axle housing is not cast iron. Keep them coming.
We’ll miss you…..😉👍
@@cerny4444 No, I promise you won't. My life mission will be destroying your fan boy fantasies with facts. TTYL
Look at the High clearance bumpers aftermarket makes currently for the Tacoma, they cut the fenders up higher for the bumper to make it high clearance. Wouldn’t be hard for them to add a step
Only problem is, the corners of the rear bumper are actually body panels. Looks like u will have to cut up your rear quarter panel if u want to put any type of bumper on it.
Those aren't really skid plates. They are just some slightly protective covers. They are going to do nothing for hitting rocks but they will be fine for smaller rocks that are flung up and hit them type of thing.
Great review , very appreciate it 😁
Tim, can you comment on ride, handing, steering, etc. now that you've driven the tundra and f150 back to back. Thx
Did the back wheels have a plastic guard over the rear tires? Is the salt going to get thrown all the way to the back door and into the back bumper? Great VIDEO!!
Also, I was surprised at the oil intervals. 2019 recommends 10k miles with Mobile 1 0w-20. Interesting.....
The intervals are 10k unless you work the truck. Look at the owners manual. It’s online.
@Fish Bowl Well, it's the manufacturer's recommended oil. Fully synthetic.They ran a Tundra 1 million miles with it.
@Fish Bowl 0W20 is the recommended oil. 0W16 is too light for truck duty.
@Fish Bowl Wow; Castrol!!! That stuff is the s$*t!! I have used Castro in everything since my first vehicle: 1985 Toyota Xtracab pickup.I'm only switching to the Mobil 1 fully synthetic, because it is what Toyota uses. My buddies have been using it for a while, so I'm going with it, based on Toyota's recommendations.
I'm a Toyota fan and this new Tundra looks pretty good but I have'nt seen any discussion on the engine package. I watched an LC300 discussion on youtube and the entire power train and undercarriage had been removed and on display and it has the twin turbo V6, i'm guessing same as the Tundra. If so, you cannot see any of the "core " engine even when removed from chassis and on an engine stand it is COMPLETLY covered by hoses and coolers, very nicely packaged, but if you have to do anything at all to the engine it will be a nightmare and/or very expensive labor wise in my opinion and I would have to think twice about it.
I have yet to see Toyota’s engines on an engine stand for display.
You dinged Ford for the same kind of rust spots on their rear differential, or around it, Tim. But on this video, you're ok with it on a Toyota. I have to call a foul, to be fair.
Personally, I don't care about such surface rust on either truck, it's not visible unless you go underneath looking for it, and it has no bearing whatsoever on part function or long-term durability. I know you agree in that. But I just don't get the neurosis over surface rust. lol
Good that you pointed out the oil filter location. Not only is it hard to access, but looks like it will dump used oil on parts below it, when you take the old one off. At 40K miles per year, I'd be doing that a lot of times. Not good.
What can I say, I've learned a bunch about rust since the Ford video. Perspectives change as you learn more and crawl under more trucks.
Next year for me. Tundra is too big. My Silverado I may have to buy but would like to downsize to Tacoma or Ridgeline. Am Very concerned with the Tacoma here in Michigan. My '05 Accord is still awesome so Honda may win! Or if I have to the Silverado I may be forced to buyout lease! $$ Would be nice to see Tacoma and Ridgeline underneath too! Thanks
The best practice is to spay it now with Fluid Film Rust & Corrosion Protection, at least once a year. Toyota trucks body frame are not rust resistant...
Toyota offers a push down step u mount underneath. If you do a build on the Toyota website you can add it.
$400 for a step. No thanks.
@@Pickuptrucktalk If Toyota had put a step bumper on and charged $400 more for the truck would you still have bought one? Just sayin. Your payin for it one way or the other!
@@louisalmeida89 I’d be pissed about it. Those steps are overpriced garbage.
It's nice to see the underbody on trucks. I don't mind rust on the thick metal of the axles, but you definitely shouldn't see rust on the frame early on. I would be curious to compare some that are a few years old - might be an idea for some videos for you. GM is likely the worst with their waxed frames. Thanks for the video.