New Evidence Found for Planet 9 with Konstantin Batygin
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- Does Planet Nine exist? At 5 Sigma, Konstantin Batygin, Mike Brown, and others have found the best evidence yet of it's existence.
Generation of Low-Inclination, Neptune-Crossing TNOs by Planet Nine
arxiv.org/abs/2404.11594
Injection of Inner Oort Cloud Objects Into the Distant Kuiper Belt by Planet Nine by Konstantin Batygin and Michael E. Brown
arxiv.org/pdf/2104.05799.pdf
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We got Planet 9 before GTA 6.
Lmao
😂
Omigosh !
Funny, but nah. Planet 9 doesn't exist.
Yeah, but the solar system dev cycle is super long, some would say infinite.
When I was a kid, we had nine planets. Then we didn't. Now we might, again.
Now we have dozens.
Just some of them are dwarf planets ;)
It's ridiculous, right!? This must mean god exists!!!
@@imacmill No, but it does mean we've got a lot to learn.
@@imacmillHOW
Did you come to that conclusion??!!
Planet 9, if it exists, probably has not subsantially cleared its orbit and would be a dwarf planet, no matter how big.
Would be interesting to see them try to spin it.
I think we should just call it Planet 9 From Outer Space.
I might be the only one, though.
I would personally love to see Tolkien's legendarium being used here.
• Lórien - the Valar of dreams and visions, appropriate given its intangible nature and the imagination it has aroused for the last 2 centuries.
• Nessa - the Dancer, given it's wild orbid and how much it has taken every telescope for a spin.
• Moritarnon - the Door of Night, created by the Valar at the time of the making of the Sun and Moon, forming the border between Earth (Arda) and the Void.
I second Planet 9 From Outer Space.
That was the heading on the first slide of Dr. Batygin's presentation on Planet 9 a few years back, so I don't think you're alone.
IMAGINE A BUCKET OF GASOLINE
Maybe name it after Ed Wood.
The moment I saw this in my feed I knew I should watch this asap and I was not disappointed.
Same. I was looking for something to listen to, saw this, and went "yup, that's the one." I wasn't disappointed, either.
Just dropping a comment for the algorithm. Thanks again for all the awesome content John and the team provide 🙂
Our pleasure!
Power-bumping this one to outer space.
@7:30 "Yes, we've proven where it isn't. Based on our recent models, we can say with 10 sigma accuracy that Planet IX is not located within 0.01 AU of Earth."
Uh no shit?
He never wasted his breath on that, unlike the poster.
Unless it's purely dark matter ??
@@johnbaker1256 If dark matter is a wimp that doesn't interact with itself significantly, I don't think it would form a dense blob like a planet. Unless it's something else of course. What do you think it is?
@@johnbaker1256I thought "Dark Matter" was a discredited theory these days?
One of several aspects about your channel that I really like is the way you read up on the work of the guests and really prepare ahead of time, rather than just wing it. It makes for a much more interesting and revealing talk.
I put on my Event Horizon T-shirt this AM. Now this! Very cool.
There's t-shirts?!
Awesome! How’s it look?
@@EventHorizonShow looks great to me! Material is very nice. I will wear it out in the world regularly now that it is warming up around here.
What does “this am” mean? This morning?
@@-MaXuS- it means, "ante meridiem," before midday. In other words, I put the shirt on this morning.
I truly hope that “planet 9” is a lower mass black hole. The ability to send a probe, the implications on dark matter, all the new physics to explain it. Yes please!
That would be tremendous but also extremely difficult to find.
cue Interstellar music
@@EventHorizonShow there's a great game about that
A guest in the show once laughed on the assumption, that "then we will never gonna find it"
@@lefty59th18can you please type that again you totally produced a damaged sentence.
I feel privileged to have been listening to such a brilliant conversation, thank you.
Great news and great questions, John. I wouldn't mind hearing you guys talking about this for another hour.
I have been waiting for this for years.
Konstantin Batygin is a great communicator and I’m always a fan of planetary science. Great episode!
Finally 🎉 some of those perks apriciate it
The was an awesome video. Extremely happy I took the time to listen to the entire thing. Amazing.
Great talk. Many thanks. At 29:40 You mention Eduardo Marturet. I fell off my chair as I hadn't thought of him since we studied at the same music school together. Thanks for a great blast from the past.
Always good to get an update from Konstantin on Planet Nine.
When the lady said " he is the forbs list of 30 scientists under the age 30" I kinda thought we would have Rajesh Koothrappali on this show.
Great show as always, no speculations without substantive facts, pinning down a theory into something real, no automatic dismissal of religious beliefs... love this channel.
"...no speculations without substantive facts": Didn't I hear him say 'Yes, it could be a blob of dark matter'? Seems pretty speculative to me.
@@mpmpm ...Which he followed up by pointing out the facts about dark matter,
Amazing work done by this team. Absolutely incredible. Seeing that Uranus is at a near 90 degree tilt, it makes sense to stop expecting everything in the solar system to be uniform and on a simple plain.
Planety McPlanet-face is the only name I will accept.
McPlanet_Placeholder_009
Planet Bob!
No advertising, please.
Nooooo!
'X'
....should be it's name!😊
Yuggoth....
Unless youse wanna take a trip in a jar without that body....
The first guest with a more sleep inducing voice than John's. I got one minute into the video and
What are you talking about? It's really interesting! I'm just
Seriously though, try watching it at 1.75x speed.
@@goncalovazpinto6261 sacrilege!
Great interview discussions and questions, Thanks
I really hope Planet Nine turns out to to be Primordial black hole. That would give us some chance of getting a probe near an actual black hole.
And be absolutely sensible because it would also explain that we are slowly eipticaly Fallin towards it
@@original..mrknowitall Nonsense.
First of all, if a black hole is less massive than a star, then the barycenter of the system will be inside the star, not in the black hole.
Why would it be a primordial black hole?
And also, the smallest stellar mass blackholes have masses of about 5 solar masses.
If such a black hole was there, then the Sun would be orbiting it.
But that would mean that the solar system would have formed as a binary system and the more massive star then would have died billions of years before the Sun and if planets accreted around the Sun, they would have been destroyed by the Supernova.
No such thing as a black hole. Ideal gases don't a sun make either. Batygin has been hell bent trying to find this to gain fame. I don't buy it.
Noo gov and mafia will use it to dump evidence
@@summerbrooks9922 "No such thing as a black hole"
"Ideal gases don't a sun make either"
We've got quite a spicy science denier.
Dear, reality begs to differ with your nonsense.
First of all, black holes exist and recently they have been directly imaged.
And second, stars form from the gravitational collapse of molecular clouds which are mostly made of gases.
Yeah, an astronomer is trying to prove through the scientific method that his hypothesis is correct, what a remarkable discovery
cheers from Toronto thanks John
Thanks for sharing the link to Konstatin's performance in Planet 9 Op. 3 - a rare jewel in deed.
Undoubtedly my favorite guest
Love all of the content John Michael but I especially love seeing the photos of the big hydraulic cranes involved in telescope installation because my working life for near on 40 yrs is cranes and rigging. 🤙
Very cool!
Just use the old name, Nibiru
I really believe they should as well. It's also a really good sounding name and fitting for a planet imo.
The term comes from Akkadian and translates to transition/point of crossing. If it is actually there, and has been idk it seems fitting. It's been transitioning and crossing all this time, just beyond our reach.
Please no , I can't have that rabbit hole on the 24th of 2012 again 😳 can't have a self fulfilling prophesy
I like Nibiru too but I have to say it would be pretty cool to name it David Bowie.
@@Jesse-ih9ththe man from earth
I saw 👀 planet 9 in the title and I came here faster than fly on rice!
I've never actually observed flies on rice.
It’s usually: flies on sh-t
Cooked or uncooked? Short grain or wild?
Always nice when Konstantin Rockstar Bataygin is on the show
It's had a name for thousands of years. It's Nibiru.
Wow I didn’t know JMG had another channel!! What a nice surprise
When I was a kid I got excited for pop music stars like Madonna and now I’m a grown up and I get excited for Dr Batygin and Avi Loeb
Try Pierre Marie Robitaille and Alexander Unzicker who actually practice the fine art of Classical Thermodynamics.
ha ha when i was a kid i used to think madonna was creepy
Oh my gosh! I am so excited!
Much love for all the scientists exploring the outer solar system
Fantastic episode, Event Horizon team! This is very exciting stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Let’s say it is a small black hole with the mass of a super earth. Could we then use that black hole to gain speed on missions out of the solar system? And how efficient/faster could that potentially make our probes?
Look David Kipping’s halo drive
Is there any chance Planet 9 can account for the regular cooling and warming cycles we see on the planet? I'm thinking snowball earth, younger dryas and warm periods which we don't seem as apt to give cool names.
The idea of Planet 9 is so much fun, the thought of never finding it is kind of sickening. But that's the kind of game the universe likes to play with us.
I love the fact that several people enjoy this search for 9 my favorite #
I hereby declare that Planet Nine shall be called "Ouranus."
Mianus
Great video and information !
You never disappoint john but please consider a reading of salvagers that book had my heart racing.
If you voiced audiobooks I'm sure it would be stellar
Wow so far the closest i got to fresh release, im hyped lets goooo
I love putting these on while I’m at work and drifting off into space.
Pluto forever 😝 I'm really hoping we make a discovery in my lifetime.
Maybe it's an interstellar ring gate.
If Planet IX has a few moons , and if its orbit is more than 550 AU an observatory on a moon beyond the focus of the Solar Gravitational Lens should work wonders.
How about we all agree to name it: Omicron Persei 9?
My suspicion is that Planet 9 is a dark body object covered in soot. Why would this be so? The elements and distance from a Star that the planet forming rings of debris are pushed away to from the Star at the Fusion point follow a fairly normal pattern. Rock and metals stay closer to the Star, gasses are pushed further and ash, soot and most light debris is pushed the furthest from the Star at Fusion. What is also important is how fast the rotation of the molecular cloud spins at when reaching Fusion. The faster the spin governs the distance debris will reach from the Star Formation. In the inner Solar System we see very little light particle matter and we now know all Star formations create a significant amount of soot and ash. These particles would be the last to be coalesced therefore producing actual black bodies in the absence of liquid surfaces. So Planet 9 should be called Sooty and its Moon called Sweep. So it is probably a light Carbon Planet. Its Albedo would be circa 5%. Or 95% invisible.
Makes perfect sense. The comets that come through from the oort cloud look like asteroids until the sun's heat reveals the tail. So it's GOTTA be dark! That's why they find it, not. Found it, sorta!💯🖤
Yay!!! My questions made it! Thank you!
Thank you for submitting the questions.
John why don't you do some live q and as with suoerchats. Would be a good money spinner for your channel and people really like them.@@EventHorizonShow
Fun fact: holtz’s Mars symphony, the most famous glorious part of that one, was the inspiration for the main rhythm to Black Sabbaths first song, Black Sabbath, on their album Black sabbath. So cool constantine was able to participate in an extension for planet nine 🤟🏻
Weirdly I was listening to Sabbath immediately before clicking on Event Horizon.
Holzman making foldspace possible
Fantastic interview, John! Thanks! 😃
I don't think MOND is a good candidate either, but well... We thought there was a planet called Vulcan before Einstein, so... Who knows.
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
There are still several dozen papers published monthly on MOND. Some people don't think it's dead - and not just Mordecai Milgrom.
But I should add that other papers on dark matter and dark energy outnumber MOND by several hundred or so to one. The overwhelming majority of astronomers and cosmologists consider MOND to not even be a distraction.
Fantastic interview as always🔥🙏
Planet nine needs to be named Newton. Named after the god of the laws of motion.
John,
Will you be addressing Apothos - The Meteor Due to Be Visible from Earth sometime next year?
You mean Apophis? That's the asteroid that will come close in 2029.
You mean apotheosis? The process of becoming a god?
You mean Appalonia? Co-star of Prince's 1984 film Purple Rain?
If you mean Apophis it won't become visible to us until 2029
You mean apimpsmackushoe then we see that everyday......
Fascinating!!!
What if it's the unimaginably large alien outpost from which all the UAPs have originated from?
A tribute to Monty Python and describes the size of Planet 9: Biggus Dickus
Konstantin Batygin's voice sounds like if Anton Chigurh from No Country For Old Men decided to get into astronomy instead of murder. His inflection, pacing, and diction are dead-on, even if the tonality is slightly higher. Very neat.
Great interview great guest
Interesting that @21:00 mins you mention it could have once been a water world.. I mean if planet 9 is proven to be real, we are talking about actually having to accept that the sumerian/babylonian creation "myth" might actually have been real events or a real observation. It is basically what Tiamat was before she was hit by Marduk, and the remains becoming our earth and the astroid field. It means we would have to accept that the Annu might actually have been real, and could have been a space-faring civilization. I dont mean little green aliens or greys. Idk about all that, but 'from the stars to earth they came'. Thats what they wrote on the tablets.
Please for the love of God drop sitchins fiction okay? You can easily find the actual translations of sumerian tablets and their creation story instead of "translations" by a guy who couldn't translate sumerian and made a bunch of bs up.
The problem is these are based on gravity only models, and the notion of snowball objects (comets) beyond is also being shown to be wrong from observations. Looking forward to the day we get past these now discredited ideas which are blocking our progress.
Danke!
Minerva is the fourth asteroid located in the main belt known to possess two moons.
Maybe this is a modern version of the Vulcan search. Vulcan as a theorised planet within the orbit of Mercury. It turned out that it was space itself that was altered by the proximity of the Sun but that wasn't understood at the time. Maybe Planet Nine is similarities the result of a misunderstanding of the laws of physics not yet understood.
Constantine is a great guest. Loved the interview.
Whoa. If we can get actual direct observations this will be almost as big as discovering alien life. Awesome stuff.
Why?
Seriously, why? I find it nothing more than moderately interesting, and nothing changes here.
Does anyone know the name of the end credit music ? I've gone through the musicians in the description and can't seem to find it. Thanks 😊
17:48 Why not call it Terminus. He was the roman god that protected border markers ;-)
And what are TNOs when not boarder markers of the solar system 😛
Its an analogy that works only if you want it to.
And them what when be find planets 10, 11 and so on?
Don't go naming planets for their relitive place in the solar system, since future discoveries might shift that.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC He would still be sheperading the TNOs. The other Planets can do something else if they want to. ;-)
But anyway , when we rename Uranus to George again and call Neputune , Saturn and Jupiter Paul, John and Ringo , then I'm ok to Call a possible 9th planet David Bowie :-)
Pluto has to be renamed to Iggy Pop then.
@@Gpcas9 The only new names for Saturn that I will accept happen to be Ringo or Sauron.
But then we'd have to rename Venus to Lady Gaga and Mercury to Taylor Swift, so this gets out of control quickly...
That's a terrific name
David Bowie? Seriously?
Planet nine should be named after planet one: Freddie!
Planet Bob.
I understood that reference.
What's ironic is if this planet exists, we're having such a hard time finding it, but it's the most likely planet seen from other stars using the "masking" method (not wobble or transit method).
I love this subject. Another planet, wow!
Mass is a different factor than density though. If it's just a modest multiple of Earth masses, if it's an object that skews heavily in composition towards transuranic-elements, then it could be rather small if it somehow doesn't collect a significant gaseous atmosphere. (And that would still be a unique find without going into something more exotic like the lower bounds of what may be possible with a black hole.)
great discussion
Always nice with an update on the search for Planet 9. Hopefully it isn't planet nein! 🙂
Planet 9 before Star Citizen releases.
I really look foward to a one hour discussion. These are busy scientists, I know. But after waiting one week it's a bit of let down.
Brown and Batygin proposed planet 9 eight years ago despite the fact that our knowledge of objects in the outer solar system is very limited. It looked liked observational bias to me back then and still does today. I’ll believe it when and if they actually find it.
Im going to nominate we honor George R. Martin, and Miyazaki, by naming Planet 9 Miquella. In the plot, Miquella is a known son of the Goddess Marika, but is the only one who is never truly seen or interacted with in the world of the game. I feel that the demigod character Miquella does a respectable portrayal and similarity to a planet we still have yet been able to 100% confirm.
pluto is still planet 9 to me. And I’m ok with being wrong too. Completely ok with it. Anyways, the “planet x” moniker was/is wayeeeee better anyway. Plus also what could possibly be the issue with continueing to refer to it as “planet x” with x being an unknown variable instead of the roman numeral for ten, even if you are a person who happened to go along with astronomers deciding to rend asunder my elementary school education about the nine planets, which included pluto?😂
note: 93 Minerva is indeed an asteroid, with two moons. Named back in 1867, so yes, any Roman deity you have ever heard of is already taken.
The ort cloud extending 100 000 au blew my mind ❤
That's a low-range estimate. We'll probably never know. Externally, it'll keep on being trimmed away by passing stars, while internally dirt from the inner system and Kuiper belt get slowly shuffled outwards.
I was waiting for this discussion, and then its only 36 minutes long. Is there a reason your "podcast" isn't longer than a sitcom episode?
Can you do a video on imaging super resolution? Is there a limit to it? Instead of making larger telescopes, can't we instead create imaging technology so high that we can view distant objects in super-resolution? Is there any research in this field relating to astronomy?
Look at all those stars. It’s truly beautiful
When they finally find it they have to name it Niburu.
Nemesis
Absolutely
Yes and Yes!
Seconded
The conspiracy theory nutjobs would go even more insane if they named it that. The joke would be hilarious, but it's not worth it lol
We have known where Pluto is for a long time. It is planet X that is proving elusive.
What about 12,500 years exactly being the orbital period.
The atmosphere is Nitrogen, hydrogen, trace amounts of CO².
So the cause of the Younger Dryas Event then?
if its true about protecting their atmosphere from heat loss via summarian myths then we'll probably never see it coming. it'll be effectively invisible. intriguing. its all guesses at this point and makes for good story.
That sounds like mars loosing its atmosphere
Already has been named Nibiru or Wormwood. Id name it Ohmachron perci eight
How do the fields in the standard model intersect? Is baryonic matter the intersections? Would this mean that gravity is the force of the intersections and dark energy is the lack or intersections meaning that gravity and dark matter are the same force? Could the big bang be the physical limit that gravity and dark energy can be opposing?
So basically nothings changed? Orbits are still being inaccuratly predicted, which means there must be another body perterbing orbits, we looked where this other body should be, and we did not find it? I'm still gonna watch the whole episode. I'll check back to see how wrong I was.
5:26 "Thleek Hith thi Theketh ih thi Hethleethik"
What does this mean? Is it another language?
Thanks for quantifying the mass question, as approximately five Earth masses. Being such a low mass, "it sort of" rules out the inactive Black Hole Theory? Also being old-school, I tend to lean to Planet X rather than Planet 9... as Pluto being a dwarf Planet, it's still, to me, our 9th member in the Solar System family. LOVE YOU PLUTO! 🌑🤗
But if we're counting dwarf planets, then Ceres counts, which would mean that Pluto is number 10, not number 9.
@@phaedrus000 Your logic is sound, as both dwarf Planets are geologicly active. BUT, Pluto does have a couple of moons, where Ceres doesn't appear to have any? Other than that, I would be very happy to call Pluto our 10th planet. BUT, in saying that... I would still call planet 9 planet X, as this leaves room for other noteworthy dwarf Planets to be apart of our Solar system family. Until then... For me and for many others, Pluto is 9th.🤗
@@wayneharrison Neither Mercury nor Venus have moons, and they are planets.
@@phaedrus000 Note that Pluto and Ceres are the apples with apples, comparison/subject-matter that are located in the back paddock. Mercury and Venus are sitting on the front porch. Basic comprehension in a UA-cam format is a given, when replying in the comment section. Sorry for any misunderstanding... You have a great day, dude. 👍👍
Eat one yet! You two are awesome together
I agree.. I think Planet 9 exists as well. It’s just a matter of time. 😊 Love the performance with the Miami Philharmonic too. It’s on my favorites ❤❤❤
still think the evidence for planet 9 is weak
I remember having the same kind of aha moment when reading about the orbit of VP 16. A large body further out was likely altering it's orbit in this fashion. What is exciting about studies like this one from the incomparable Konstatin Batygin is that the evidence for Planet 9 is increasing over time and not going the other way, which it could have quite easily. Vera Rubin will likely be the first telescope to detect planet 9 and the time is getting near when this will happen. It will also be exciting to see what else Vera Rubin will find. The correlation with early star cluster dynamics is a nice tie in to help explain why this ejected planet ended up in this kind of orbit.
so, what about passing star systems or even rogue planets for the cause?
I think he kinda covers that near the beginning. You need something keeping them there basically.
@@swirvinbirds1971 thank you, guess i need to clean my ears and watch it again 👍
Brown dwarf star possible
@@patrickday4206 There's one due to pass through in about 6-to-12 orbits of the average Planet 9. (40 to 50 thousand years - I forget the details. Happens all the time.)