Planet Nine Might Be Something Far Stranger Than a Planet featuring Kate Brown and Harsh Mathur
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2024
- Beyond Neptune, a new class of KBOs with semimajor axes exceeding 250 astronomical units displays orbital anomalies sparking speculation about an undiscovered ninth planet. Yet, through the secular approximation, our guests offer an alternative explanation for these anomalies, predicting alignment of orbit axes toward the Galactic center and clustering in phase space, aligning with observations. Could MOND's capacity to elucidate galactic rotation without dark matter extend to the outer solar system, reshaping our cosmic understanding? Join us in unraveling the secrets of the Kuiper Belt and exploring the implications of MOND theory on our celestial neighborhood.
Modified Newtonian Dynamics as an Alternative to the Planet Nine Hypothesis
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Kate Brown is a voice of reason in a Dark Matter gold rush.
I would like to learn more about quantum level acceleration - especially as it concerns light.
One of the best interviews lately (and that's saying something!)
John, these two guests were an absolute pleasure. Have them back at every opportunity.
weren't they? loved listening to this one. More please, John!
Dr Mathur's research into testing the law of gravity in the outer solar system brings to mind author Larry Niven's Known Space scify comment that mankind didn't discover hyperdrive until they performed their experiments outside of the suns gravity well.
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Dark energy is the statement referring to, I don't know!
Very interesting! I have always wondered what advances and discoveries will be made once we venture further out of the solar system. Telescopes and other observations from earth can only gather so much.
"The ringworld is unstable!"
Wheres the booster spice so we can be around to see all this cool stuff
I truly hope that “planet 9” is a black hole. It would instantly become the primary focus of study in our solar system. The knowledge we’d gain in a relatively short period would be amazing.
We cannot see it already so it got to lack much of an accretion disk. It could also be tiny. In any case it will be useful for observations. Observations of the black hole itself and gravity lensing.
A very interesting topic. It's always great to hear that alternative hypotheses to theories we treat as truth are still welcome in physics at least. It doesn't matter if it ends up being true or not, the important part is that it highlights where our knowledge is incomplete.
This has to be my favourite show to lessen to every Thursday.
Thank you.
Thank you for watching and listening.
I could keep coming back just for the visual graphics and music alone! The informative narratives and fascinating discussions are really just icing on the cake.
Friday mornings in Perth Australia like clockwork. Thanks.
Thanks for this John, one of my favourite topics 👍❤️🏴
Glad you enjoyed it
That intro music always gets me.
My brains Pavlovian response to it is to start waking up because it’s about to listen to some interesting cerebral talk.
This podcast is very underrated. The alignment of the Kuiper belt explained by MOND is very interesting. But I think dark matter also explains it.
I absolutely love the content you make. So informative!
Likewise.
Agreed, awesome stuff. Love it.
"Get out the good dishes hun. We're watching a new episode of Event Horizon while we have supper."
It will be awesome if MOND is more correct that what we understand now, the dark matter is kind of sketchy, more sketchy than idea that we can understand something wrong, because of our calculations or because misunderstood observations - we like it or not we are observing universe from single tiny point, maybe gravity or actually mass/energy (or lack of it between clusters) doing something with it, like compressing or stretching the distance on a cosmic level. I really like that something is happening in this subject.
One more thing, maybe in that scale, and because of differences between high level of gravity and low level of gravity, doing something with the electromagnetic wave itself and cause red shift, so maybe expansion is also wrong. But no idea, I'm just loud thinking.
One question that I have actually, what is the level of gravity in vast inter-galactic or inter-cluster space, is there something what we would describe like - no gravity, or very low almost 0?
@slizgi86 Never thought of gravity being zero somewhere. Absolute loneliness 😳
@@SuperKingNNNProbably not true 0 I guess, but I assume where is no mass/energy there is low/lowest gravity in universe somewhere. So, between clusters of galaxies, and lack of it has to have some impact on a spacetime, but maybe I am just dumb - I'm just enthusiast not scientist in the field :)
Please, no MOND. Defer to Einstein; gravity is a warping of Spacetime by matter.
At this moment there is no detection of any dark matter particle and it does not describe what we observe perfectly.
Then again, MOND does not explain everything either. Reality might prove to be a mixture of both or something else entirely.
Pluto will always be a planet for people over 45
In the name of the wee man ,leave it.
It's in all my coloring books from when I was a kid. So take that, science.
Fun fact, dwarf planet is a more exclusive club than planet… there’s only 5
Indeed.
I'm amazed at how Good all these guests are. The show is just consistently excellent.
And I can generally follow along. Being a non scientist without any PhD, a channel like PBS spacetime always has me hopelessly confused within the first few minutes. Here, things are explained clearly enough that I can get it, lol.
Wow definitely one of my favourite interviews so far and I'm only half in!
Without great minds like harsh & Kate we would not have progress in this amazing field. Great debates and an understanding of the immense amount of evidence give us more certainty going forward. Even if there are some mistakes having the ability to recognise that is fundamental to new discovery. Amazing people always on your videos in this amazing world on which we live with John Michael Godier asking the great questions. 👍
Kate is a hottie.
Just finished my last night shift of the week and have a 3 day weekend. Perfect thing to come home to. I promise to stay awake until the end!
Enjoy!
Awesome interview, John! Thanks!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Cheers, been waiting for the upload so I can fall asleep. Don't worry, I'll listen this to at work in the morning again.
"Pluto is a planet" - Jerry
Most interesting interview in a long time.
Refreshing, right?
Why, why, WHY do galaxies swirl? Why do infant galaxies start with the S shape - that wiggle - and then add more arms? Universe, answer me!
Universe, answer him!!!
@@ekothesilent9456 I really do want an answer, U. I'm not a scientist but I've read innumerable popular science book, esp. astronomy/cosmology/physics, and have never found even a hint of an answer. I noticed the swirl doing thousands of galaxy classifications at Galaxy Zoo. It is SO-O-O-O noticeable, the wiggle, the S shape, the whirl. Why? WHY?
@@maryhuckaby2239 it’s probably a non-local version of what causes accretion disks on stars but I don’t really know how to explain that phenomenon either 🤔
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Angular momentum
Never heard of MOND; exciting!
Many thanks to you and your guests.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I did your Mond, beef boy.
@@FMDD168 Good luck to you. ✌️
I loved both of these guests. They're both such great explainers and they bounce off each other so well, why don't they have a podcast?
I’m so excited about planet 9 and Al the possibilities. Amazing channel JMG!
The standard model describes the nuclear binding force responsible for attracting nucleons together into atomic nuclei in terms of virtual charged pion exchanges. Once anticipated to be a fundamental force, it's now relegated to a residual effect of the more-fundamental quark-gluon interaction holding nucleons themselves together. As such, it doesn't have its own gauge boson, and isn't considered as one of the four fundamental forces of nature.. despite being the lynchpin of every atom.
Few people will be aware however that back in the 80's, an alternative model was being actively investigated by shadowy Pentagon-run special access programs, which, based upon intelligence procured from certain foreign entities, instead formulated the nuclear binding force in terms of spacetime curvature, only much stronger, and much shorter-ranged than the weak, long-ranged gravity we're familiar with. The reason for their interest was the proposition that there was a stable isotope of a certain heavy element which happened to expose a hitch by which this field could be harnessed and accumulated by means of amplifying waveguides, thus making it possible to 'blow bubbles' of strong force - extremely steep gravity wells, trivially able to form miniature Schwarzchild black holes, despite their gravitational influence going to zero a few femtometers above their surface. You can see real video of just such a spectacle on my channel, complete with red and blue wavelength-shifting on either side - spin-Doppler from frame-dragging. The projects referred to this force as 'gravity A', as distinct from the more-familiar 'gravity B' of Newton and GR.
You could crudely model atomic binding simply in terms of an attractive force with a higher scaling function than electromagnetism's square of radius; for instance radius-cubed would mean halving or doubling distance would change the force by a factor of sixteen. In principle, _any_ value greater than EM's quadratic function results in some threshold radius above which repulsion dominates, but below which attraction takes over.
Yet reality's more complex; the standard model *doesn't* treat the binding force as a constant, but _variable with distance.._ even inverting to repulsion beyond a certain proximity, thus preventing nucleons simply automatically fusing. So not only is it not fundamental, and not constant, it also flips between attraction and repulsion as required.
Yet since nucleons are massive particles, they're prevented from death-spiralling simply due to centrifugal force - the closer they approach, the faster they co-orbit one another, CF force squaring with that rising velocity.. and whereas the mass of orbiting bodies at classical speeds is constant, as they approach lightspeed, relativistic mass starts to kick in. The impossibility of accelerating mass past c starts to apply - the gravity well can only squeeze the orbits to some finite speed and proximity, at which point they can approach no closer, because they can't orbit any faster.
The reason larger nuclei are progressively more unstable is due to the short range of the binding force, compared to the electrostatic or Coulomb force repulsing like-charges - as more protons are added, those on opposite sides of the nucleus are under stronger long-range mutual repulsion from one another than mutual attraction from the shorter-ranged binding force, which most strongly affects neighboring nucleons. Hence stable isotopes of heavy elements depend on having more neutrons than protons, in order to swing this balance of forces their way. Note also that the characteristic hue of gold is attributed to relativistic effects in its nucleus; coincidentally the same colour as this enigmatic metal being studied by these covert programs..
So what of this dualism of 'gravity A' vs 'gravity B' - are there really _two_ types of gravity? Two different types of spacetime curvature, operating at vastly different scales? Or else, might the latter somehow be a residual effect of the former, in much the same way _it_ has been relegated to an epiphenomenon of the quark-gluon interaction? Maybe the spacetime curvature that is gravity at Newtonian scales is a kind of frame-dragging effect that _begins_ with this sub-atomic gravity down in the nucleus? Does this not point to a naturalistic quantum theory of gravity? Sonia Bacca's work on helium nuclei - arguably the simplest atomic nucleus - shows the standard virtual charged pion model unable to predict their maximum size with better than chance accuracy; despite its successes, it's evidently a placeholder theory, if not straying into epicycles. What implications, if any, this resolution of gravity and nuclear forces may have for issues such as the galactic spin problem remains open to further speculation, but if the binding force _is_ spacetime curvature (and the video evidence alone strongly supports this), such a paradigm shift would inevitably yield a deeper understanding of gravity at larger scales..
I suppose an interesting question I have that I would love to see answered would be what happens to the universe assuming MOND is real? What I mean is does MOND change the current idea of the big freeze for the universes end? I’m not sure!
That was really interesting! I hope you can invite them both back at some point for an update.
Would love to see you bring on Anton Petrov sometime. 2 of the best in the game. Make it happen, Cap’n!
He is welcome any time
I 2nd that motion! Anton's a good dude.
Anton's a very informative, wonderful person
I like Anton as well but very disappointed he tried to pass off the Dylatov Pass incident the same as the Russian govt tried to around same time a couple years ago. I was very unsatisfied with his analysis. There was just too many really odd things to ignore about whatever the Frick happened on that mountain.
as Chuck Berry says... "you never can tell" haha
It’s the annunaki
Amun Ra
Great video and information !
SagA* : the ultimate Planet 9!
Outstanding episode to me! I would really like to find a way to make Julia Galef aware of it. You can be proud of your content.
The detection bias towards outer solar system objects with highly elliptical orbits mentioned by Dr. Mathur at around 28 minutes is something I hadn't considered. I guess I always assumed that (as with their wildly varying inclinations), pretty much everything orbiting that far out should preserve oval-shaped orbits because they have undergone far fewer close interactions with other bodies to 'round them out' over time.
So good. Thanks
Im really hoping it's a mini black hole that we could potentially study up close one day.
I miss Vulcan 😅
There’s a theory our Milky Way galaxy has an unseen process of looping, crossing over, if so would the process mess with current knowledge ?
If not & the biggest questions be answered, what actual benefit ?
Interesting pod
A very good show.
A really good first experience with the show.
I agree with the many comment; very good guests.
best scientists ever. thank you
I find it insane that "dark matter" is assumed to be exotic when its actual meaning is just matter we are not currently able to detect, a very broad category of unknowns. It is most surely just dust and gas that is ambient temperature. As our telescopes have gotten better we have been able to see more and more of it. I agree with Kate Brown that it will affect things a little bit but I do not believe it is the main factor. I see MOND being a more likely explanation due to the amount of matter required for "dark matter" to be viable. That WOULD be detectable and even if we couldn't directly see it we would see more interference of light than we do. I think just looking at gravitational lensing and visible matter in a close by galaxy would be enough to settle this argument due to the extreme amount of extra mass needed in the dark matter theory.
Super interesting. I wonder how this compares to Mike McCulloch's approach to doing away with dark matter. Aka quantized inertia, a development based off of Unruh waves and such. Interesting because I have not heard a peep since he was involved in a couple cubesats testing his hypothesis
Ah yes, an example of my favorite form of deduction! ‘If you hear hoofbeats, you should assume it’s a species of hoof-bearing animals that’s that’s never been seen, but has been theorized to exist’
I think dark energy is the favored between it and MOND probably because it doesn’t change how gravity works at big distances. Humans are largely resistant to being wrong.
Well obviously it's a Thestral...
Being as it is invisible.
But in particle physics, we already have one invisible species....the neutrinos.
But they are too small, and have a habit of morphing through 3 shapes
Like an invisible trinity easter bunny....
I enjoyed the episode but I subsequently got a chance to speak with Mike Brown at length and he said that the math in this paper was incomplete. A deeper dive would show that the outer solar system would be largely unbound if this MOND equation is employed. FWIW he also thinks that the primordial black hole conjecture also doesn't hold up to the math. His explanation about why planet 9 hasn't been found yet is also fascinating. Time to have him as a guest once again!
We have reached out to him.
Does the MOND version also predict the other features that a Planet 9 could explain like the Kuiper belt objects at 90 degree inclination and that the Sun is tilted a few degrees with respect to the plane of the planets?
I subscribe to Planet 9 co-champion Konstantin Batygin's contention that Planet 9 COULD be a 6-9 earth mass burrito. I would further assert that it's a "mission style" type burrito which would make it even MORE exciting to contemplate.
Maybe a black hole burrito?
3:55 Draw the boundary at the 'cliff'. Makes sense to me, we draw up states by rivers, why not the same, but on an astronomical scale?
My hands were cramping up but then I heard Brown Kate
Thank you
I dont think mond explains galaxies which contain mostly dark matter? Nor gravitational lensing observed by what we think is dark matter
MOND your manners. Though I agree.
Things like the bullet cluster isn't explained by dark matter simulations either.
And when it comes to gravitational lensing, there are huge uncertainties involved. I consider it more like a dark art than a science.
I listened to this entire thing and I have no idea WTF they are on about 😅 - I love it anyway. Long live John Michael G!
The art thing, while cool conceptually, is a little too esoteric for me. But I need to look more into it as I am very ignorant about fractals. The modified physics though was very captivating though!
I've said this before but what we're looking for resides in a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum. It's their but we just don't have the technology to se it yet. My guess its way past the infrared.
So radio then
@@robertadsett5273 the spectrum is vast. Who's to say things and or lifeforms can't reside it either side of the visible spectrum.
@@robertadsett5273 you are basically made up of a combination of harmonic radio waves so yeah guess so.
24:55 Planet 9 and MOND crossover!! Woaah 🎉
Very very cool!!!
So what would be the physical mechanism for the mond effects? I have always believed that there should be some effect from white that leaves a imprint on the fabric of SpaceTime.
On a quantum level and everything bubbles up and pops into existence from spacetime itself. Gravity and moving objects warp spacetime. This happens to the extent of giving off gravitational waves.
I think light or more accurately the electromagnetic spectrum should have some type of dragging effect on spacetime. Calculations of the square cube law into this effect should have the reduction over large distances.
I'm probably wrong because The less you know about something, the more you think you know right?
I did. Just want to toss out the idea though
@Event Horizon,
Please look into and present the latest papers completely RULING OUT what these authors present in this video (ie, MOND).
Just a few months ago (late 2023) Indranil Banik et al used the Wide Binary Test data on Wide Binary stars. This paper rules out MOND at a 16sigma confidence.
Remember Indranil Banik was one of the strongest proponents of MOND but verifying data is excluding MOND at 16sigma to 19sigma...has certainly shifted his position on this theory.
Furthermore, Banik et al is not the only paper dismissing MOND.
On top of this, applying the same stringent criteria used by Banik et al to the paper in 10sigma support of MOND (the Chae data) the results of Chae et al change dramatically...in the other direction (ie, no more strong support for MOND).
This is Astrophysics, this is Science. The way these MOND authors you interviewed present the information is unsettling biased. This needs a AUDIATUR ET ALTERA PARS from you.
My 2 cents.
We will look into it, wouldn’t say the guests are biased though.
@@EventHorizonShow
I don't like the idea of dark matter (and dark energy, to be honest). But data, evidence do not care what I like. The data and evidence in support of dark matter is massive, huge.
The way both authors speak of dark matter is similar to how string theorists used to comment on dark matter - dismissively.
Hats off to Banik and Co who dove into the data even though it could provide evidence contrary to Banik's previous papers.
Anyway, thank you for replying.
Nice talk
Is MOG still a thing? I know very little about this alternative alternative theory of gravity. I'd love to listen to an interview about that if it is still a viable hypothesis.
I've never forgotten your episode on Lurker Probes. Brilliant . On to MOND, the influence would be 650 billion miles away -7000 AU. (And we think the Pacific ocean is big). If there are trillions of rogue planets just in this galaxy, being lighter than stars/suns, they would wind up.....where ? And invisible. Spinning around solar systems.(?) Just a thought. Maybe I have a correct one, once inna while.(?)
Rogues would do one of three things. Be hurled fast enough to escape the galaxy (?) (what is the escape velocity - of a galaxy)- #1. Be captured by a solar system - # 2. Fall towards the center - # 3. .....if you think rogue planets would do anything else , please comment . Could be all three, but I think systems would capture their fair share. And those captures would be way out....possibly even between stars (?) Think of rogue planets as a balloon on the winds of galactic gravity....but a few of them - are going to have some serious pull....on a local level.
26:30 - Does this research take into account the ongoing collision of the major part of our Galaxy with some formerly independent galaxies, the Magellanic "Clouds" and the Magellanic Arc?
I imagine these influences would make the mass motions within the Milky Way unpredictable enough to invalidate many early observations.
As some smart person once said, the simplest theory is probably the most plausible, in this case MOND.
So... We know gravity warps space, we have all seen the demos with the sheets and heavy stuff put in the sheets, right?
Well... What if space can be a little wrinkled or warped without gravity. Perhaps the expansion of space is more of an unrolling of 3D fabric rather than a stretchy expansion, and sometimes space just unrolls a bit wrinkled for whatever reason. Then... Matter gets stuck in these wrinkles, sorta like lint in your belly button. The matter makes the wrinkle a little deeper, but that slows down the rollout of space making it more wrinkled.... So... There's no dark matter, just wrinkled space...
planet nine is mine, I claim it and I plan to use it as my own personal open bathroom, just a solid gold toilet on top of whatever the tallest mountain is just for me, and no one else is allowed to use it or look toward planet nine when I'm using it
Word on the street is that you're a "bad dude" - do you have any comments on that, Mr. Corn-Pop?
The planet is only 4"across.
I wonder why no one tries to apply MHD in cosmic web simulations...?
Whats the music at the end?
It’s stellardrone’s track called Ascent.
@@EventHorizonShow thank you so much, love your videos and have been wondering about the music for a long time 🤗
Jackson Pollock! Wow! Mind expanding. Thanks. Again wonderful interview with two brilliant scientists.
The field always has a signature, apple bananas pears, its a given algebra because its in a vacuum. But i dont suppose it doesn't heterodyne at infinite antenna length, or get shifted by solar influence, as one space travels through another at reasonable dopler integration of normal one dimensional fractal x-ray fields. Mainly the distance acting like the big band. So lets take capacitors, as long as your have similar size capacitors trading charge, the strength of the charge pressure is elastically conservative. So gravity comes from a moon, around 500km wide capacitor. But light comes from a star a billion dollar's away, very narrow and unloved, so it does heterodyne, but just the average over antenna length.
We need to work really hard on figuring out the universe, being that we won't ever leave this solar system, and be lucky to survive another century at all. If only all of these minds cared about whether this planet would survive, maybe planted nine is earth two, if not we are pretty well screwed.
Humans aren’t going away in a Century - mammals have survived far greater extremes in both directions. Even nuclear war wouldn’t kill all humans. To your point though we could have an event that could set technology back for centuries
The gravity well of a black hole is not Newtonian, obviously, as demonstrated by the orbit of stars in a galaxy. Baryonic objects 7000 earth orbits away from the sun become heavily influenced by non-Newtonian gravity. I hypothesize that in 3D, space is "compressed" around a black hole. The idea of warping can only exist if space can be compressed. The 2.5 graphic of the well of a black hole everybody thinks of, is just one point in a spherical set of points. From all points of 3D view - space is compressed. Gravity is -exponential - in compressed space. Space- Compressed is itself non-Newtonian. "Compressed Gravity" or Exponential Gravity is not dark matter. This hypothesis needs an equation. (Uncle Dav's crazy ideas)
The speed of light is one.
A second is 186k miles.
A second is the distance of causality.
Dark matter is a quantum collapse condition. I.e a particle exists as a wave and is in many possible places this gives a distributed gravity locus. When you collapse all the possibilities in your now the particle locations-are absolutely known and the distributed gravity effect disappears.
Simply Dark mass does not have a particle it is the probability of a particle that cannot be seen until the probability collapse.
Hi John😊
Yes this is probably correct.
I for one am glad they demoted Pluto. They should probably demote Mercury while they’re at it.
So wait, Jackson Pollack was throwing paint randomly on a canvas? Color me shocked! Shocked I say!
Also, please let there be a planet 9. I am not a physicist so I have no stake in MOND vs Newtonian dynamics, but I would really love it if there was a planet 9 after all. I'm still 'miffed' about the demotion of Pluto.
If they cannot find Planet 9, could they run a MOND model then try again? May be it cannot be found as they are looking in the wrong place...
A film prof. i had, Stan Brakhage, who during his younger life in nyc, was invited with a friend, an acq. of Pollack's, to meet Pollack at his own studio, once, who basically did not want ANYONE there, even after agreeing to have them, & who actually, said Nothing he was doing was 'accidental,' & punctuated his statement with a full ball of paint on his brush, then hurling the paint-ball across the big room, & hitting the door knob, perfectly. They left, after that. :)
&, getting the right thickness of paint, & weilding buckets around a gigantic canvas all days, was most probably: whaddya think... ]: ⚡️
So this goes deepah than Uranus?
We had better probe that, bend over...😂
This may be a dumb question but if we don't know what "dark matter" is or how to detect it how can we say there is none in the Milkyway ??
Well, dark matter isn't a "thing", so much as a placeholder for an observation that would more honestly be called "excess orbit velocity".
We have detected one form of dark matter and that is the neutrino. Neutrinos fall well short of explaining the gravitational anomalies that we observe.
There's nothing stranger than Planet 9 From Outer Space!
Wasn't there a recent paper that suggested MOND was pretty likely wrong?
I can write a paper tomorrow detailing the evidence for santa. You should read it and then write a paper calling me crazy. We can both be wrong together.
@@TGBurgerGaming I'm not sure what your point is? that all papers are gobledygook?
There was. It was about measuring the orbits of binary stars. There was another paper that confirmed MOND. This shows how difficult these observations and the subsequent statistical analyses are.
Dr Becky covered it on her channel of you want to search it for it.
8:55 what happens if C is not a constant?
I believe there is method hidden in Pollock's seemingly haphazard approach, but it's far from mathematical precision of any sort.
What could be stranger than a planet featuring Kate Brown and Harsh Mathur?
A planet without them.
Modified by electricity. Intergalactic rivers of charge. Electric Universe. Speed of gravity.
Sound"s like alot of word's to say, "everything in our solar system revolves around the sun."
Isn't it funny how humans have given space its own accent over the years in shows movies etc
Dark matter reminds me of the celestial spheres
I am waiting for Rupert.
Live and learn…lots.
Could it simply be a higher than assumed metallicity of the stars, gas, and dust making up the missing mass? Isn't that a simpler solution that should be tested before leaping to these math alternatives?
If there are multiple solutions to a scientific mystery, the preferred option is to test all possible solutions to figure out which fits the data best.
@@KevD_ Actually I think the scientific method is to test and eliminate the easy possible solutions first before assuming our understanding of physics must be wrong.
So stars shouldn’t conform to the galactic disc as much with dark matter, that is interesting, but why couldn’t/wouldn’t the dark matter also conform to the disc?
Gaia not giving accelerations? Wouldn't a second measurement show movement, thus acceleration?
people saying pollock was creating fractals in his work because of his "chaotic movements" are huffing pure copium. just make peace with the fact that he was just some drunkie playing with paint like a child! it's okay if You like it but it's basically the posterchild for why people don't respect modern art.
I passed it the other day. Seemed fine.
A Mondeo? 😁
it exists
Why doesn't anyone acknowledge that alternate realities pressing upon our universe could account for this dark matter. Layers of matter separated by reality boundaries. The effects of gravity pass through the film separating realities, but less so, the more layers away they are. Most of this science is the beginning descriptions of the separating membranes and the matter of adjoining realities. Nothing acts separately from it's environment, yet we insist that our reality is separate when we attempt to understand it.
Thats what i thought out side solar gravitational pull is what is upsetting the math
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