Bayesic Training: Toad Harbor 150cc Time Trial Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- 0:00 Introduction
1:24 Recommended build
1:56 Time Trial Walkthrough
8:20 Time Trial Demonstration
10:53 World Record Strategies
12:35 Alternate Strategies
13:35 Strategies for Online
My twitch channel - / bayesic
Highly recommend you watch my drifting and advanced tips and tricks videos before watching my time trial tutorials:
- Drifting video: • Everything You Need to...
- Advanced tips and tricks: • 10 Advanced Mario Kart...
Welcome to the 6th installment of my Bayesic Training series!
In this video I break down the coin lines, mushroom strategies, and NISCs for Toad Harbor on 150cc. I hope you like counter hopping because there's gonna be a lot of it.
Hope you all enjoy! - Ігри
The UA-cam algorithm HAS been good to you. I remember all the way back in March when you had 80 subs let’s goo!
That was in March?!
Holy shit his channel grew fast. Nice!
These videos are actually really useful and unique. They actually explain why you need to put in certain inputs ( ie. Why you need to hop to the right, for alignment purposes). It really helps explain and hopefully the UA-cam algorithm will keep pushing your channel forward, to newer audiences.
That's definitely the goal. I mean it's not hard to find top level runs online, but a lot of the time, you'll see em do something and be like "I have no idea why I need to do that or how much time this strat actually saves," and that's why I wanted to start making these videos. Just so it's not like "how can I get better?"... "Iono watch the world records" haha like if I could replicate all the WR stuff I'd have record already
This may have been the most informative track tutorial yet. The track seems pretty straight forward, but you’re getting all the small details that make a huge difference. Thanks for the great content as always!
So glad I found your channel. Your videos are so well done
Really appreciate these videos Bayesic. Week by week I'm getting a little bit better.
dude, these videos are incredible. 🙏🏻
This is so helpful! Thank you!! You are by far the best at explaining these things. I hope you get more subs💕
So, today I decided to do time trials just to see where I stand in the pecking order and did the first four cups, all sixteen tracks. Broke 12!! of my old records, in some cases by over two seconds, but the four tracks kicked my ass: Toad Harbor, Dolphin Shoals, Cloudtop Cruise and yes, my favorite Bowser's Castle. So, here I am, taking notes again....haha. I actually started watching your 150cc videos from the first one to refresh my memory and since I don't speed run often, I definitely forgot a few helpful things.
you are making very cool tutorials!
I like that still, after 3+ years, this game has so much to offer. ^^
excellent video! one of my favorite tracks because of the unexpected level of challenge it presents. Great tips; thanks.
Can we just talk about how good this track is though
Best mariokart channel and most useful for sure, I hope you eventually do every course as a time trial tutorial for 150cc especially baby park cuz I’m just having so much trouble cutting the grass for each turn
I love how thorough these breakdowns are! I’ve been working to be a bit more competitive online and this is really helpful.
Glad to hear it :-)
These not only help when trying to do time trials but ive been smoking people online with these tips. Great series and it wil be awesome to see all the new stuff when the DLC drops this week.
man this one was tough! :D thanks for the baeysic training bro
Great stuff dude, keep it up 👍🏻
These are so great thank you!
you're absolutely nutty at this game
Nice video! Thanks for the awesome information
Like a lot this series
I love your videos so much
Loved the vid
When I watched this for the first time, I was shocked when you said there aren't a lot of twist and turns in this course..... until I saw that former World Records used Dry Bowser on Splat Buggy with Slim tires!!!
Btw, thanks to this video, I was able to get a pb of 2:09.062! But I used Wario on Wild Wiggler with Rollers.
Also, I had a youtuber raced against my ghost on livestream and struggled a lot. Someone in the chat commented that I got skills and I replied, "Just using them Bayesic lines!" And I wasn't the only one that mentioned you in the chat!
That’s crazy, but also awesome haha
great video! Practice advices fo online races are very welcome))
Glad to hear it. Probably going to start making that a part of my videos going forward
Love your vids
Legend!
Idk if you'll see this cause the video is old but you've inspired me to take up speed running :)
Yeeeeee. Love to hear it!
This is terrific, keep it up! Will there be more 200cc videos coming too?
Definitely, though they will admittedly be a bit slower to roll out than the 150cc videos primarily just cause the group I'm in mostly runs 150, but I'll definitely be putting out at least one 200cc time trial tutorial a month, maybe more once work calms down a bit haha
i was your 1000 viewer!
that one dislike tho...it's not me, thanks for the videos this is awesome!
I started playing Mario Kart on the Nintendo Switch thanks to my girlfriend. One night we were randomly choosing courses to time trial head-to-head, and we came across Toad Harbor. She went first and crushed me. I was devastated. I went and sailed through a 2:58. I had played Mario Kart on the Wii, but seemingly lost my touch. So, I vowed to beat her course record of 2:41. And I did just that. First, I beat it with a mere 2:39. Then 2:35. Then 2:31 that same night (at 3am after she had gone to bed). I took a break and revisited it a few days later. I still had the touch. My current record is 2:26 point something, I forget the exact decimal. That's a 50 second first lap then 49 second something and 48 second something. The only issue I have is going faster, because right around 50 seconds on the first lap the trolley gets in the way. So, to progress to drop my time even more (which I can certainly do), I need to find a way to get a 45-47 second first lap such that I miss that trolley entirely. So, TL:DR, I'm now fast at Mario Kart and your video helped me get even faster.
I did the math, and the splits are actually 50 something, 48 low, 48 low 👍
u da man
Nice
Commenting to help your channel 😀
Thank you so much! Really appreciated :-)
@@Bayesic your welcome. I just started out on mk8dx and have been playing for like 150 hours and Mario kart wii for 7000 hours
@@StacyMcCabe holy hell that’s a lot of hours lol
@@Bayesic yea ima mkwii sweat
How do you get a UMT on the bridge part going up. I see in the world records they do it
Those trolleys are the BANE of my existence
UA-cam is working finally :DD
Cool
Great video, but I do have a question:
If you don’t specify what kind of drift to do, is the default drift to do the neutral drift (as you appear to try to do in the long turn by the antigravity section) or try to take a better line with a wiggle drift?
So it depends on the turn, but my general rule of thumb is only tilt the joystick as much as you need to. For example with the trolley turn, it's mostly a neutral drift, with just a *tiny* bit of wiggle drifting to make sure I can build up a UMT, and that's basically because I don't need to move the joystick very much to be able to do so
If it's just a bit of a tighter turn, then it's more of a soft drift angle. If it's a super tight turn like pretty much everything on Rainbow Road, then it's a really tight drift angle. Sorry kinda rambling, but does that make sense?
@@Bayesic I think so. Also, I went from 2:18 to 2:12 in under an hour applying what I can from this guide, so thank you! I’m more of a beginner, so things like the double left drift before the trolley turn and the grass cut I couldn’t do consistently, but I tried almost everything else you said (I have >100 hours into this game, around 10-20 of which was spent actually trying to improve my play, so the other strategies will come with time). Sorry for sending such a block of text but know these are appreciated:)
Yeah some of the stuff you just kinda get a feel for after a while. Thanks so much for the positive feedback!
I noticed something towards the end when you were discussing the option of taking the shortcut and getting one box v. staying on the main path and grabbing the double. When you grabbed that double, you got two coins. I keep hearing to hold a coin because the game wont give you two of the same item, but I have had that happen more than once. Does anyone know if there is some reason for it or way to keep it from happening?
Oh in this video I set it to bombs only for the intro, which is why I got double coins. Normally it’s not supposed to happen online unless you’re in a really laggy lobby
Okay I did this one today too. I went from 2:17.687 down to 2:12.795. I don't think I'm doing so well on this one.
W's
I’m getting so many of these and I don’t think I searched a single Mario kart video ever… I’m not complaining tho
The algorithm works in mysterious ways
Comment for the algorithm...!
The algorithm is pleased with your contribution
13:55 peep the double coin get
I was trying to guarantee that I could get a bomb for another part of the video so i was playing with bombs only which I thought would give me… You know… Only bombs
Turns out it means only bombs if you’re not in first otherwise you only get coins
@@Bayesic ohhh that makes more sense
yoo bayesic nice vid but i have a question: i want to start 'speedruning' this game ( not rly going to submit it but just for fun and to flex on my friends) so what course should i start out with?
Kind of a complicated question to answer haha
It depends on a lot of factors: what category do you want to run (nitro, retro, bonus, 32, 48, single cups), do you want to run items or no items, what’s your goal time, etc etc
I basically started with my end goal and worked backwards, i.e. I want to do all 48 tracks on 200cc in less than an hour and a half. Then I picked a high level run and figured “ok I need to be within X seconds of all this runs splits to get that goal. At that point it doesn’t really matter which track you start with cause you’ll have to learn them all eventually anyway
@@Bayesic Damn thanks for the quick answer. I think I’ll just do single time trails runs. I’ll just do one you did a bayesic training for.
@@amegis1830 noice. Just be aware that my times are definitely not unbeatable so if / when you beat them, I’d recommend checking out the MK8DX records channel to get a sense of what world records are doing
@@Bayesic ok thx I will
1:01 Welcome to Mario Kart!
For the algorithm
We are all beholden to the infinite wisdom of the algorithm
how do do the hop across the grass at the start?
It’s just a neutral drift into a neutral hop right before you get onto the grass
Ok first of all cool video, but I came here to beat my friends time of 2:08.5, which he got with a setup of Mii character, speed bike, and slick tires. He even drives up the wooden ramp after the first double jump just to get 10 coins in the first lap. No air drifting across ramps, no cutting grass, no super bounces. No fancy techniques and way less drift turbos.
I know this way has the POTENTIAL to get down to WR pace, but the effort seems too high, considering even you only managed to get a 2:09.0.
For now I'm stuck around 11.5 with the waluigi setup, was just considerung to learn the grass cut and drift for the first double jump...
My guess is he's basically following this setup ua-cam.com/video/N0-hwq9VSko/v-deo.html
I personally find these setups harder to use because they have much less control than the lighter builds. For reference, I did actually try to beat my 2:09 with the Dry Bowser Splat Buggy Slick build and wasn't able to consistently get a sub 2:10
@@Bayesic Interesting, I think I will give that setup a try, thanks. I didn't realize this kind of setup was viable at all since I never saw it in the record videos or ghosts I watched. For the control, I think the problem is alleviated a bit by using an inside drifting bike. The sport bike handles alright, I think.
@@Lupo9 yeah I always look at the MK8DX records UA-cam channel, and if the current record is using strats that look really bonkers I like to check out what some of the previous records have used and how far away they are from current record
So for example in that video you can see that the dry bowser build is able to get a time that’s only half a second slower than the current record. Hope that helps :-)
Can someone please help me I can't seem to get much air when on the grass hope at the beginning. I'm stuck, I always land on the grass and because of that I need to hop again. Please help
As long as your neutral hopping, there shouldn’t be too much of an issue, but if you’re having trouble then you might need to adjust your timing
You can always super mini turbo over the grass as well, which is much easier to do
@@Bayesic thank you for the reply but I'm still confused on what neutral hopping is
@@tarabecker77 it’s when you press the jump button without doing anything on the joystick
@@Bayesic oh ok! Thank you so much HHH
13:39 Imagine deliberately taking the longer route for the double items and both of them end up being coins...
Yeah, I was running those bombs only so double coins is a pretty common occurrence
this track too damn hard
Algo comment
Pls do N64 rainbow road or Grumble volcano
They're definitely going to be coming at some point, but probably not until later on in the year
Ok thanks it’s just I’m trying to work on 200cc N64 rainbow road. Im not the best at my score is 59.367 I’m 3 seconds off the WR but if you but I can help on the N64 rainbow road if you do it 😊
@@translader6843 very nice. Since I primarily speed run this game i’m not even sure if I have attempted that course with mushrooms since I first got the game almost a year and a half ago lol
Ok
how do you hop while drifting
Not sure what you mean, if you hop in the middle of a drift you’ll stop the drift you were just doing
@@Bayesic so i release the drift then hop?
@@conkr9240 like I said I’m not exactly sure what you’re trying to do. You can’t be in the middle of a drift, hop, and keep your drift
@@Bayesic sorry for being unclear but what i was thinking was i release my drift triggering my boost then i hop during the boost?
@@conkr9240 ooooh ok. Yeah if you’re saying what I think you’re saying it’s literally like while you’ve got a mini turbo built up, just hop out of the drift. Is there a particular strategy on this track that you’re trying to learn?
Hello Teacher! Want to collab?
13:53 oof double coin
Yeah I think I had bombs only for this intro or something haha
Scooty is faster, but ye I agree with biddy if you suck at softdrifting lol
Nice vid btw
Also I want to mention that to get the coin at 2:50, do a right slide at 2:31
I’ve got a pretty decent handle on soft drifting. I just don’t really like the way Scooty feels tbh
@@Bayesic yh
Btw, nobody really cares but scooty is the only kart I can play semi-decent with as an inward main xD
@@smkarter7336 what you think this is, MKWii?!?!?!?
Lol jkjk
lel
Learning this for the express purpose of pissing off my brother.
I dig it
13:42 getting 2 coins it's really bad luck
Dang 4K views and only one dislike
There is no way that was you playing toad at the start of the vid
Gotta keep the themes going man... you're gonna lose your mind next week
King Boo next? 🤔
@@Checkerchamp find out next time on Dragonball Z!
I've been following your series, starting by the mushroom cup, and man... This track here is hard to the balls. Make one mistake and the run is ruined by at least 3 seconds
This track is horrible online
Bro for real though