I wish this video had come out about a month sooner as I just got new tires from your shop a few weeks ago. I did call and I did come by your shop to talk tires, I received NONE of this information. All I got was the rec for the Toyo’s, I asked why and it was pretty much just because, which isn’t good enough for me, and they couldn’t even suggest another tire. I look to shops like yours to learn and to educate myself from all your knowledge and to say I was shocked on what little information I was given would be an understatement. I ended up making the wrong choice on my tires and I called to talk to your shop about it, spoke to who I think is the office manager, and ALL he would say is “how and why is this my problem” over and over. I got no feedback and his solution was to "just buy new ties, it's not that big of a deal”, after I just spent $2500 on this set. I also was told that you have put this tire on many vans and have had no issues, come to find out I'm the first van you have ever put this tire on. Again, I am not looking to blame anyone I just wanted to be educated and discuss my issues. Very disappointed to get this from a shop as experienced as yours. But thank you for this video, hopefully some of your employees can watch this and pass on this knowledge to the people calling and coming in the door.
Hey Mindy - we try to find a balance between recommending products and listening to our customers. Some folks definitely know what they want and we don't claim to know it all. Yes, we do recommend Toyos, because we trust them and have good experiences running them on our own rigs. Sometimes folks read something online or have a personal experience that is different than ours. We have been installing Mickey Thompsons on vans for over a year now without any issues. I believe your concern is with the fuel economy of your Mickey Thompsons that you selected. We did reach out to Mickey who mentioned they had already spoken with you. Happy to take another look at that concern with you. Call the shop at 530-562-6009 .
Great video. I currently run a 295/70/17 Cooper Stronghold AT on the reika super single on my 23' 3500xd AWD. Two things I wanted to mention that if you have a 23' or later you don't need to do the distronic calibration. I haven't and everything works just fine. According to the guys over at OWL MB made some changes so it's just not needed. THe other thing I wanted to mention is that while I have the van compass aux and rally struts, and the rear shocks I did NOT need a lift to accommodate my 33in diameter tire. I did have to fender relocate both front and rear.
Thanks. Got it on the 2023s. 275s should never need a lift, just a No Rub up front. It’s when you step up to 285s that you’ll need a lift. Sorry for the confusion there.
@@sierraadventurevans4302 You didn't read his post correctly, he's fitted 295/70R17 without a lift, general consensus for 2500 is you can fit 285/70R17 without a lift
@@adrianrogers6976Ok. Looks like it may have been edited. Either way, 285 size tires require trimming beyond what a No Rub Kit provides. While it’s possible to run them without a lift, I would imagine it would be a lot of trimming, especially on the front bumper. I did notice that the 295 tire he mentions is actually shorter than the 285/75s we run on our shop van so that would help in his case. www.calculator.net/tire-size-calculator.html?ctw1=295&car1=70&cws1=17&ctw2=285&car2=75&cws2=17&ctype=2&x=Calculate#compare
@@sierraadventurevans4302 He may have yes, do you think I can run a 285/70R17 BFG K02/K03 with no lift, front wheel arch mod and rear mud flap relocation?
Wonderful video. Thank you. Most informative of the Sprinter tire videos I've watched. Perhaps 1/2 of our driving is off-road - but nothing hard-core. Forest service and BLM with occasional open desert. Deep ruts, washboard, mud & snow, rocks, etc, but no crawling. Typical totally unmaintained New Mexico and Colorado BLM and USFS. We will be fully armored below, but having lost an oil pan 40 miles off-road a few years back, despite a 3" lift, with no cell service and a pack of six dogs on board, I am looking for the largest tire that is easy to fit. Based on your video I am intending to get 275/70 R17s. But one additional bit of information please: What rim off-set is needed for the 275/70 R17s?Any thing special? 2025 144 AWD arriving soon. Thanks so much, Doug
@@dougelerath7364 seems like we could do a whole video on wheels. We recommend 32mm offset and our go-to wheels for folks who offroad (and air down) are Agile Overland with dual valve stems and an Apex RPV. For Sprinters, offset does not play a large role in tire clearance on the body. It does affect whether you can run a coilover and/or Big Brake Kit.
I have a 2025 revel looking to get a better tire and look Any recommendations is much appreciated From my understanding it appears that your can install 275/70/r17 without modifying the fenders
I am doing a super single conversion on my 2016 4x4 3500 170. Struggling to find out if I can get a 270/70 R17 to fit without any rubbing. Ideally I would like to get a L285/70R17 on there so I can gain the extra 200 Lbs of max capacity. Any guidance on the subject? Not a lot of info on the older vans.
Hey Nick - I’m guessing you’re looking at 275/70R17s. They will fit just fine. We recommend Reika for Super Singles, like this one. reikawheels.com/product/r35v-rambler-3500?srsltid=AfmBOoqRRYiJAzVLj6SxkfkrYc54_C-W63zn9Ik2Nct_ULf99ax-6iqz 285s and 295s are not so simple, you need a lift, fender trimming and we recommend a regear.
@@sierraadventurevans4302 Yep, should have typed 275/70 R17, damn fingers don't work like they should. I already ordered the Reika wheels, in bronze:-) Have a great day and thanks for the response.
Another great video with all the right questions asked and answered in one single video! For those of us with Revel vans, we often have the stock Method 701 wheels but have purchased (or are considering) an upgraded wheel like one of the van-specific models from Owl, Agile, Black Rhino, etc. I drive in snow and wet weather during the winter, including lots of skiing in the Sierra, but the other half of the year I drive mixed road trips and off-road camping. Would you recommend keeping the stock wheels for winter use (like a Cooper Snow Claw) and swap to something like a Rugged Trek for the rest of the year?
Yes, I would. In fact, quite a few of our customers do this. They purchase new wheels and tires for their summer set, choosing Agile, Owl, etc. We recommend dual valve with Apex RPVs, if you go that route. They also keep their old 701s to run their dedicated winter tire. In Truckee, we swap to our winter setup in November, and back in April.
Maybe we just have trust issues from the KO2s. To be fair to the KO3s, we'll make a video of the balancing process and we'll pick a tire or two to do a head to head comparison. To be clear, we ran KO2s on a number of rigs for years, including our shop van and Jeep. They provide great traction offroad and do better in snow than to Toyos AT3s. We just struggled with road noise and balancing, especially in the 275/70R17 van size.
@@sierraadventurevans4302 Not sure how deep you want to go on tire comparison videos but I think a couple of videos that would be helpful: Video 1) A practical comparison video between KO2 vs KO3 to confirm BFGs claims that the KO3 now has better comfort on-road (higher silica), better on wet (more siping), etc. Test ‘em on the snow, wet pavement, at Boca or Prosser, etc. Video 2), KO3 vs. Toyo AT3. Yes, there are a lot of KO2 versus KO3 videos out there, but I’ve not seen any for the sprinter community, let alone the mountain town sprinter community.
I wish this video had come out about a month sooner as I just got new tires from your shop a few weeks ago. I did call and I did come by your shop to talk tires, I received NONE of this information. All I got was the rec for the Toyo’s, I asked why and it was pretty much just because, which isn’t good enough for me, and they couldn’t even suggest another tire. I look to shops like yours to learn and to educate myself from all your knowledge and to say I was shocked on what little information I was given would be an understatement. I ended up making the wrong choice on my tires and I called to talk to your shop about it, spoke to who I think is the office manager, and ALL he would say is “how and why is this my problem” over and over. I got no feedback and his solution was to "just buy new ties, it's not that big of a deal”, after I just spent $2500 on this set. I also was told that you have put this tire on many vans and have had no issues, come to find out I'm the first van you have ever put this tire on. Again, I am not looking to blame anyone I just wanted to be educated and discuss my issues. Very disappointed to get this from a shop as experienced as yours. But thank you for this video, hopefully some of your employees can watch this and pass on this knowledge to the people calling and coming in the door.
Hey Mindy - we try to find a balance between recommending products and listening to our customers. Some folks definitely know what they want and we don't claim to know it all. Yes, we do recommend Toyos, because we trust them and have good experiences running them on our own rigs. Sometimes folks read something online or have a personal experience that is different than ours. We have been installing Mickey Thompsons on vans for over a year now without any issues. I believe your concern is with the fuel economy of your Mickey Thompsons that you selected. We did reach out to Mickey who mentioned they had already spoken with you. Happy to take another look at that concern with you. Call the shop at 530-562-6009 .
Great video. I currently run a 295/70/17 Cooper Stronghold AT on the reika super single on my 23' 3500xd AWD. Two things I wanted to mention that if you have a 23' or later you don't need to do the distronic calibration. I haven't and everything works just fine. According to the guys over at OWL MB made some changes so it's just not needed. THe other thing I wanted to mention is that while I have the van compass aux and rally struts, and the rear shocks I did NOT need a lift to accommodate my 33in diameter tire. I did have to fender relocate both front and rear.
Thanks. Got it on the 2023s. 275s should never need a lift, just a No Rub up front. It’s when you step up to 285s that you’ll need a lift. Sorry for the confusion there.
@@sierraadventurevans4302 No confusion bud. I mistyped. It's a 295/70/17 on my super singles for the 3500
@@sierraadventurevans4302 You didn't read his post correctly, he's fitted 295/70R17 without a lift, general consensus for 2500 is you can fit 285/70R17 without a lift
@@adrianrogers6976Ok. Looks like it may have been edited. Either way, 285 size tires require trimming beyond what a No Rub Kit provides. While it’s possible to run them without a lift, I would imagine it would be a lot of trimming, especially on the front bumper. I did notice that the 295 tire he mentions is actually shorter than the 285/75s we run on our shop van so that would help in his case. www.calculator.net/tire-size-calculator.html?ctw1=295&car1=70&cws1=17&ctw2=285&car2=75&cws2=17&ctype=2&x=Calculate#compare
@@sierraadventurevans4302 He may have yes, do you think I can run a 285/70R17 BFG K02/K03 with no lift, front wheel arch mod and rear mud flap relocation?
Can you do a video on the transit dually tire size with a lift or something like this
We have our next few videos already in the works but we'll add it to the list of topics to consider later this year.
Wonderful video. Thank you. Most informative of the Sprinter tire videos I've watched. Perhaps 1/2 of our driving is off-road - but nothing hard-core. Forest service and BLM with occasional open desert. Deep ruts, washboard, mud & snow, rocks, etc, but no crawling. Typical totally unmaintained New Mexico and Colorado BLM and USFS. We will be fully armored below, but having lost an oil pan 40 miles off-road a few years back, despite a 3" lift, with no cell service and a pack of six dogs on board, I am looking for the largest tire that is easy to fit. Based on your video I am intending to get 275/70 R17s. But one additional bit of information please: What rim off-set is needed for the 275/70 R17s?Any thing special? 2025 144 AWD arriving soon. Thanks so much, Doug
@@dougelerath7364 seems like we could do a whole video on wheels. We recommend 32mm offset and our go-to wheels for folks who offroad (and air down) are Agile Overland with dual valve stems and an Apex RPV. For Sprinters, offset does not play a large role in tire clearance on the body. It does affect whether you can run a coilover and/or Big Brake Kit.
@@sierraadventurevans4302 Thank you. And yes, a wheel video would also be excellent. Planning on buying presents for my Sprinter.
I have a 2025 revel looking to get a better tire and look
Any recommendations is much appreciated
From my understanding it appears that your can install 275/70/r17 without modifying the fenders
We recommend Toyo ATIIIs. In order to run 275/70R17s you will need a No Rub kit from Agile. The rear fenders will be fine.
I am doing a super single conversion on my 2016 4x4 3500 170. Struggling to find out if I can get a 270/70 R17 to fit without any rubbing. Ideally I would like to get a L285/70R17 on there so I can gain the extra 200 Lbs of max capacity. Any guidance on the subject? Not a lot of info on the older vans.
Hey Nick - I’m guessing you’re looking at 275/70R17s. They will fit just fine.
We recommend Reika for Super Singles, like this one. reikawheels.com/product/r35v-rambler-3500?srsltid=AfmBOoqRRYiJAzVLj6SxkfkrYc54_C-W63zn9Ik2Nct_ULf99ax-6iqz
285s and 295s are not so simple, you need a lift, fender trimming and we recommend a regear.
@@sierraadventurevans4302 Yep, should have typed 275/70 R17, damn fingers don't work like they should. I already ordered the Reika wheels, in bronze:-) Have a great day and thanks for the response.
Another great video with all the right questions asked and answered in one single video! For those of us with Revel vans, we often have the stock Method 701 wheels but have purchased (or are considering) an upgraded wheel like one of the van-specific models from Owl, Agile, Black Rhino, etc. I drive in snow and wet weather during the winter, including lots of skiing in the Sierra, but the other half of the year I drive mixed road trips and off-road camping. Would you recommend keeping the stock wheels for winter use (like a Cooper Snow Claw) and swap to something like a Rugged Trek for the rest of the year?
Yes, I would. In fact, quite a few of our customers do this. They purchase new wheels and tires for their summer set, choosing Agile, Owl, etc. We recommend dual valve with Apex RPVs, if you go that route. They also keep their old 701s to run their dedicated winter tire. In Truckee, we swap to our winter setup in November, and back in April.
I understand there are/were balancing problems with the KO2, are there similar issues with KO3? Where do KO3 rank amongst your top AT tires?
Maybe we just have trust issues from the KO2s. To be fair to the KO3s, we'll make a video of the balancing process and we'll pick a tire or two to do a head to head comparison. To be clear, we ran KO2s on a number of rigs for years, including our shop van and Jeep. They provide great traction offroad and do better in snow than to Toyos AT3s. We just struggled with road noise and balancing, especially in the 275/70R17 van size.
@@sierraadventurevans4302 Not sure how deep you want to go on tire comparison videos but I think a couple of videos that would be helpful: Video 1) A practical comparison video between KO2 vs KO3 to confirm BFGs claims that the KO3 now has better comfort on-road (higher silica), better on wet (more siping), etc. Test ‘em on the snow, wet pavement, at Boca or Prosser, etc. Video 2), KO3 vs. Toyo AT3. Yes, there are a lot of KO2 versus KO3 videos out there, but I’ve not seen any for the sprinter community, let alone the mountain town sprinter community.