Classical Composer Reacts to 1985 by Haken...a track that sounds current and retro at the same time!

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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2023
  • #haken #throwbackthursday
    In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm diving once again into the Daily Doug archives to release my reaction to 1985 from Haken. This reaction originally comes from my Fan Favorites series that I publish exclusively on Patreon. I have since heard this song within a reaction to their album, Affinity. And, so far...Affinity is my favorite of their albums. I hope you enjoy!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 133

  • @chessbrainiac
    @chessbrainiac Рік тому +86

    You got to do Elephants Never Forgets from their new album Fauna.

    • @wolframreactor74
      @wolframreactor74 Рік тому +3

      Doug will need to wear sandals to count the meter. 13 and 15 on Elephants where it was 6 and 7 on 1985…😮

    • @neox79
      @neox79 Рік тому +5

      Best track on the new one. And that’s not meant to diminish the rest of the album, either.

    • @obobsaget4177
      @obobsaget4177 5 місяців тому +1

      Ttaaaaaakkkkkeeeee, a look behind the curtain

  • @ytsejamaz
    @ytsejamaz Рік тому +34

    The lyric "bound by gravity" is also the title of the closer on Affinity, which is a hauntingly beautiful masterpiece of a ballad. Would love to see a reaction/analysis video for that song!

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL Рік тому +9

      Actually Bound by Gravity is Doug’s new favorite Haken track. He reacted to Affinity in its entirety on his Pateron.

    • @algorix8420
      @algorix8420 Рік тому +1

      @@Arrow2theACL happy to hear this, Bound by Gravity was the first track i fell in love with of that album, and to this day it still holds a good spot in my favourite songs from haken

    • @Lantern7100
      @Lantern7100 Рік тому

      I love that song

  • @hellspark
    @hellspark Рік тому +9

    The instrumental break makes me imagine an arcade game about futuristic fighter jets. It gets me hyped every time. SO GOOD.

  • @yarbgreat1
    @yarbgreat1 Рік тому +8

    Gotta react to The Dear Hunter. They have a lot of cool orchestrated stuff in their music. Awesome singer too. I recommend the Act IV album most.

  • @NaanProphet
    @NaanProphet Рік тому +54

    If anyone really digs this particular type of 80s sound and instrumentation, the song was very much influenced by composer Vince Dicola, particularly his scores to Rocky IV and Transformers the Movie. If you check out the track Autobot Decepticon Battle, you can easily hear a lot of the inspiration for the instrumental section.

    • @Jorduan100
      @Jorduan100 Рік тому +2

      Damn straight my man, the same applies for Escape, which has a huge tribute also

    • @NaanProphet
      @NaanProphet Рік тому +3

      @@Jorduan100 Very true. I kept it to one choice as to not overwhelm anyone who actually wanted to look into it and since that one represents a lot of the major themes, it was what I went with. But you're totally right.

    • @Jorduan100
      @Jorduan100 Рік тому +2

      @@NaanProphet good to see there are others who appreciate it man! :)

    • @gthobaben
      @gthobaben Рік тому +1

      His version of the Transformers theme - which I don’t think was used in the movie but you can find on UA-cam - is insanely good. It’s got everything a prog person would ever want.

    • @gthobaben
      @gthobaben Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/6alPvhjBqys/v-deo.html

  • @11thEarlOfBlah
    @11thEarlOfBlah Рік тому +13

    Amazing song, by one of the best bands on the planet right now.

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi Рік тому +18

    I had heard Cockroach King before and got really excited and tried to listen more Haken but was slightly disappointed. Hearing this I'm all in again, this was amazing. The fact that the riffs are so unexpectable that you get surprised all the time yet groove enough to pull you in.
    This album also seems to have Einar Solberg of Leprous featuring in a song! Been listening to Leprous discography the past week.

    • @MrDinofelis
      @MrDinofelis Рік тому +3

      Try Crystalized! It's on an EP so it doesn't get its fair amount of attention but it's one of their great epics.

    • @thetremi9149
      @thetremi9149 11 місяців тому +4

      @@MrDinofelis oof Crystallized is a fucking epic banger, reminds me of count of tuscany by DT although they are probably nothing alike :P

    • @maudley
      @maudley 8 місяців тому

      I was in the same boat and was super excited when I found this album! Easily my fave from them

  • @gunnakindatrashngl8323
    @gunnakindatrashngl8323 Рік тому +49

    You should do Messiah Complex from them next! It's an epic split into 5 parts and shows their heavy side very well

    • @g3w3k63
      @g3w3k63 Рік тому +11

      Just seen them perform the 5 songs live and it's absolutely amazing

    • @Zarkai_09
      @Zarkai_09 Рік тому +1

      It would be AMAZING!!

    • @Sk1pperCS
      @Sk1pperCS Рік тому +3

      It also has callbacks. Picking special moments from every previous album in there!

    • @mirkecWii
      @mirkecWii Рік тому +1

      ​@@Sk1pperCS every album?

    • @Sk1pperCS
      @Sk1pperCS Рік тому +1

      @@mirkecWii I think so yeah.

  • @ClockworkSatan
    @ClockworkSatan Рік тому +3

    I'm listening to a lot of prog rock/metal bands right now and while the majority of them are outstanding in terms of their talent and musicianship, Haken - for me - are just on another level. '1985' was (I think) the first Haken song I heard and it blew my 1980's-kid mind. Of course, that led me on to listening to 'Affinity' in all of it's glory, which led to me exploring their back catalogue and, just over a month ago, me seeing them play live In the Glasgow garage.
    They are untouchable - their music is fun, thought provoking and unlike anything else out there. Long live Haken!

  • @Ignazyoh
    @Ignazyoh Рік тому +15

    The first time that ive heard this masterpiece, i just thought: oh yeah, this is going to be a banger of an album. Also I can really hear 2 DT songs here:
    - The instrumental part: its very octavarium progression.
    - The final riff: sounds a little to You not me

    • @VictorGomez-jb3dc
      @VictorGomez-jb3dc Рік тому +2

      OMG same here! I think it's a little tribute to Dream Theater. Awesome song!

    • @philipwittke8491
      @philipwittke8491 Рік тому +1

      Never thought that....I get a Saga vibe from this tune

    • @philipwittke8491
      @philipwittke8491 Рік тому

      Saga meets And then there were 3 Genesis...

  • @garybeaudette4208
    @garybeaudette4208 Рік тому +3

    Your channel was my first intro to this band with your Cockroach King Video, I then got the entire catalog and got to see them in Montreal the other day. Thank you Doug!!!

  • @dietmarklos1197
    @dietmarklos1197 Рік тому +1

    Hai Doug, I first hear Haken at your reacts - now i´m a fan . Thanks
    Grüße aus Deutschland
    Greatings from Germany
    Dietmar

  • @toolrjm
    @toolrjm Рік тому +2

    Hey Doug. Nice to see you at the show! Hope you enjoyed it! 🤘

  • @mateusfragallo4049
    @mateusfragallo4049 Рік тому +8

    Congratulations for your channel, Doug! It's always a pleasure to see your reactions/ analysis, by far the best ones on UA-cam!
    PS: whenever you have time, check out THE CURTAIN, by Snarky puppy. Absolutely amazing.

    • @GaudyGabriev
      @GaudyGabriev Рік тому +1

      Oh yeah. I love that thing. And Bill's solo is *chef's kiss*

    • @yarbgreat1
      @yarbgreat1 Рік тому +1

      Love this song. The live performance is killer

  • @bmbasscovers6570
    @bmbasscovers6570 Рік тому +3

    Haken imho is the leader of Modern Prog right now

  • @stevewarren4813
    @stevewarren4813 Рік тому +1

    Hell yeah. That was awesome. Reminds mind just a little bit of Caligula's Horse.

  • @Arrow2theACL
    @Arrow2theACL Рік тому +2

    If anyone will be at the NYC show tonight, I will be there with Doug. You can’t miss us, come say hi.

  • @Cloudburzt
    @Cloudburzt Рік тому +2

    I hadn't noticed this 'till I worked on a cover of this 5-6 years ago (it didn't go well), but the last chorus' vocal line is shifted forward an 8th note to start on 1 instead of the "and of 1" the first two choruses had, but it keeps the same melody. Something I always found really cool.
    I think part of that "frameshift" is story-telling wise enhanced by that 3rd chorus vocal line shifting forward an 8th note in placement (in the 7/4 time signature of the chorus), but harmonically and rhythmically in itself staying (somewhat) the same.

  • @Heiteinah
    @Heiteinah Рік тому +1

    So happy they are coming to Curitiba this year! I'll be surely in there to watch those lads!

    • @caio509
      @caio509 11 місяців тому

      Ah, Curitiba, cidade boa demais

  • @ugg10video76
    @ugg10video76 Рік тому +2

    This is a classic modern prog album in the making. Always reminds me of 90125 era Yes! Can’t wait to finally see them live this summer. Oh, and Charlie Griffiths solo album Tiktaalika is well worth a listen.

  • @danhurley2274
    @danhurley2274 Рік тому

    A great reaction to a great track Doug! Thanx so much. I have seen Haken on Cruise To The Edge many times and also in Toronto. I have had the chance to meet and chat with them a couple of times. great guys all and such a great show every time!

  • @itseperkele181
    @itseperkele181 Рік тому +5

    How about a "Metal Monday Finland Special?"

    • @stevencharlton7693
      @stevencharlton7693 Рік тому

      I would say a big YES PLEASE to one of those, especially if it were Barren Earth!!! 😀

    • @NaanProphet
      @NaanProphet Рік тому +2

      Insomnium or Amorphis would make my day on this channel.

  • @Bardwellthefirst
    @Bardwellthefirst 8 місяців тому

    Haken's my favorite band, I love your content on them!

  • @jackhanson3333
    @jackhanson3333 Рік тому +2

    Just saw an interview for these guys new album should check it out on sea of tranquility great channel for learning about music would love to see you collaborate with them they do talk shows talking about many of the albums you’ve listened to and it would be cool to have you talk with them.

  • @zarkinfrood117
    @zarkinfrood117 Рік тому

    Hey Doug, love your videos! You always manage to convey the pure joy of listening to amazing tunes. If you haven't already, I highly recommend you check out the band Karnivool, either "Deadman" or "New Day", I think you'll love them!

  • @thehoodie7740
    @thehoodie7740 Рік тому +1

    Yay! This is my favorite Haken song.

  • @ciceroribeiro3248
    @ciceroribeiro3248 Рік тому

    Obrigado Doug, meu filho tinha me apresentado está banda mas eu dei de ombros, mas em uma de suas reações eu me deslumbrei.
    Que banda ótima

  • @AtomizedSound
    @AtomizedSound Рік тому

    About time you get to this album and song! To me their best album still but their latest is very close for top place. Great song with the retro feel and Rush influences here and there I felt

  • @PhoenixDecim
    @PhoenixDecim Рік тому

    One of my fav tracks from one of my fav Haken albums!

  • @guitarchannel5676
    @guitarchannel5676 Рік тому +2

    Not too familiar with Haken, but I like a lot of this material. At 6:20, is that Klaatu's 'Little Neutrino' vocoder voice? (That would be 1976, I think.) The 'Owner of a Lonely Heart' section I sort of recognize. Great musicianship from all the band members, and very well-rehearsed.

  • @PeytonDrums05
    @PeytonDrums05 Рік тому +1

    You really need to do something off of Fauna. I would recommend Elephants Never Forget!

  • @dustdreamer673
    @dustdreamer673 Рік тому

    Quite a journey, loved it

  • @marlachristensen2076
    @marlachristensen2076 Рік тому

    Beginning @ 9:00, I cannot quite recall the design techniques utilized to do this type of design other than those cardboard kaleidoscopes we had as kids. However, those designs evolved in color. I like the green with black background here. It reminds me of the computer monitors we had back in the late 1980s. All hooked to the appropriate mainframes no less.

  • @metalmark1214
    @metalmark1214 Рік тому +1

    A cool little tune celebrating the year I graduated HS.

  • @antoniocarlin5026
    @antoniocarlin5026 Рік тому

    On october Ill see them for the first time...! on the new Tour here on Monterrey, México!

  • @peterdieudonne570
    @peterdieudonne570 3 місяці тому

    Celestial Elixir is my Haken favorite. greetings from Belgium "Y'all" 🙂

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL 3 місяці тому

      Doug reacted to all of Aquarius on his Patreon.

  • @daniellevy22
    @daniellevy22 Рік тому

    Fun fact: the Haken concert at the Keswick Theater was exactly one year ago today. Nice timing on the upload :)

  • @Sacriflst
    @Sacriflst Рік тому +5

    Celestial Elixir is easily their best song.

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL Рік тому

      Doug reacted to the entire Aquarius album on his Pateron.

    • @MrDinofelis
      @MrDinofelis Рік тому

      I think you mean 'tied with Crystalized'. Not arguing so much as adding to your statement

    • @mylittlepwny3447
      @mylittlepwny3447 9 місяців тому

      Visions would like to have a word! Great songs all of them though!

  • @darcyshouldice5076
    @darcyshouldice5076 Рік тому +1

    Reminds me of Yes, Rush and Tool... crazy and interesting.

  • @HeikkiHeiskanen
    @HeikkiHeiskanen Рік тому

    Love this tune.

  • @Vita-a-stelle-e-strisce
    @Vita-a-stelle-e-strisce Рік тому

    I love this song!

  • @samaranthae9671
    @samaranthae9671 Рік тому

    Heck to the yeah.
    Even a limited release can be limited to the number that was pre ordered in a fair period of time. Like a week or fortnight

  • @Gohanndes1
    @Gohanndes1 Рік тому +1

    This song reminds me of SAGA a great Canadian band from the 80's.

  • @ulfingvar1
    @ulfingvar1 Рік тому +1

    Haken, one of the top 5 bands in the world.

  • @maxwelljackson7934
    @maxwelljackson7934 Рік тому +1

    Check out more of their new album, some of the songs on there are incomprehensibly good

  • @soggytom
    @soggytom Рік тому +1

    What Yes would have evolved to after "Drama", had the group stayed intact and Jon not re-joined. So very 1985-prog here.

  • @wolframreactor74
    @wolframreactor74 Рік тому

    Need to do another interview with the HAKEN guys for their NEW disc FAUNA. I saw them last week!

  • @DumblyDorr
    @DumblyDorr Рік тому

    Love this track! And great reaction - though I wonder why you said “this may be where they snuck in an ‘Owner of a Lonely Heart’” quite a few minutes in, when the very first riff is almost a verbatim quote (with uneven meter).

    • @CodamATW
      @CodamATW Рік тому +1

      They went into about 4 minutes of Owner of a Lonely Heart live around there

  • @gordy3714
    @gordy3714 Рік тому

    Doug have you done any Threshold videos, the 1st 3 songs off the new album are magnificent.

  • @josealbertocunyamerino4730
    @josealbertocunyamerino4730 11 місяців тому

    I can hear Owner of a lonely heart at the very beginning. I love both songs so much and I know, some may say "that's not the real Yes", but don't care 😅

  • @oscargarza804
    @oscargarza804 Рік тому

    Yes!!

  • @Orein123
    @Orein123 Рік тому +3

    Despite not having a direct story like some of Haken's other albums, Affinity is honestly better done as a whole album rather than song-by-song. So many ideas are cross-referenced between songs, especially the big choruses. The chorus of 1985 in particular describes the whole album in that sense; their design, shifted song by song, until it comes full circle in the Endless Knot and Bound by Gravity.

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL Рік тому

      Doug reacted to the entire Affinity album on his Pateron. It was amazing.

  • @playitloud8112
    @playitloud8112 Рік тому

    07:50
    Why did they only use this theme once?! Sooo cool. 😎

  • @Viiinc3
    @Viiinc3 Рік тому

    Just one of the best prog metal song ever. What a journey.

  • @bryanbolin4128
    @bryanbolin4128 Місяць тому

    Listen to Autobot/Decepticon Battle from the original 1986 Transformers: The Movie soundtrack and then this song. So many nods. Especially the "breakdown"/interlude in 1985.

  • @user-hr8fm7wf1t
    @user-hr8fm7wf1t 11 місяців тому

    Oh man! That’s easy! Moment solo 8:59-9:17 is restructured solo Dream Theater from “Octavarium” 16:46-18:29. Haken is very fans of DT 😉

  • @bernardodc9631
    @bernardodc9631 11 місяців тому

    When he says gezz at the end the meter is 7+6+5+4+3+2+1

  • @arudegesture
    @arudegesture Рік тому

    You should definitely check out Mitch Murder. The KING of New Retro Wave!

  • @northell4475
    @northell4475 Рік тому

    Listen the band "Los Jaivas" song "Mira Niñita" is really amazing ❤

  • @bradleyphilp4510
    @bradleyphilp4510 Рік тому

    10:21 "Jesus!" 🤣

  • @michaeldezern4681
    @michaeldezern4681 Рік тому +1

    Play some ne obliviscaris Equss it might be a little heavy for you at time. but the redtir is gorgeous. The band has a a violinist. 2. Singers a ba
    Ist

  • @KiddiAgnars
    @KiddiAgnars Рік тому

    Guitars on this album are at times very inspired by 80's King Crimson. Think Dicipline era.

  • @TheJamieProsser
    @TheJamieProsser Рік тому +2

    Definitely need to check out their latest album! It’s a great one

  • @pearlexportdrums
    @pearlexportdrums Рік тому

    Heard their latest work "Fauna" yet? Epic album! A reaction to Nightingale or Elephants Never Forget would be amazing :)

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL Рік тому +1

      Doug reacted to Nightingale last year when first released.

  • @n4rf645
    @n4rf645 Рік тому

    You grasped the metaphorical meaning of the song, the reinvention of oneself, the frame shift. but it's all framed (no pun intended) in the literal meaning of the song, which is about Artificial Intelligence and how, if at all, it is different from what we consider real intelligence. Granted, it's much easier to understand the literal meaning when you're listening to the whole album because it begins with a song called affinity.exe

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL Рік тому

      Doug did react to 1985 again in context of the entire album on his Patreon.

  • @danpop2405
    @danpop2405 Рік тому

    You should do a Fauna reaction

  • @skakkalabinko
    @skakkalabinko Рік тому

    Did you ever finish Prepetual Burn by Jason Becker?

  • @PaulHilburger
    @PaulHilburger Рік тому

    Yeah more Haken

  • @Azathoth_TheDameonSultan
    @Azathoth_TheDameonSultan Рік тому +1

    you need to hear aquarius

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL Рік тому +1

      Doug reacted to Aquarius in its entirety in his Extended Play Lounge on Patreon. It was a fun one. My favorite episode. Check The Daily Doug Directory for a list of reactions: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UEvcDKlhqywcJsJobsUgrNi61NP3-c1KFHhgKoKubtg/edit#gid=0

  • @richarddeese1991
    @richarddeese1991 Рік тому

    Thanks. 1985? I was 20, ya spring chicken. ;) This band reminds me of Tool in a way. tavi.

  • @brucebowling6032
    @brucebowling6032 Рік тому

    Haken is the musical equivalent of the surrealist painters.

  • @rickyjustin5846
    @rickyjustin5846 Рік тому

    Great reaction I recommend you react to this video from the band that inspired Metallica to form in 1981 this band formed in 1976 and Metallica has covered many of their songs. Diamond Head - The Coffin Train animated version not the studio check the lyrics gave me goosebumps they get along with the video and the world today you will enjoy it.

  • @mitchellschleede569
    @mitchellschleede569 Рік тому

    Fates Warning, Part of the Machine. Enough said.

  • @monkeyhouse1672
    @monkeyhouse1672 Рік тому

    Cardiacs Sing to God album next?

  • @aahmadfadhilah
    @aahmadfadhilah Рік тому

    React to Native Construct please, "Hell or High Water" or "Chromatic Aberration" would be good.

    • @stuartjennings9923
      @stuartjennings9923 Рік тому

      He already reacted to Mute and wasn’t a fan, unfortunately. Not the best introduction, but another go would be awesome! One of the best prog metal albums ever

    • @Arrow2theACL
      @Arrow2theACL Рік тому +1

      @@stuartjennings9923 To be fair. That was early in Doug's journey with heavier music. I bet he would have a completely different outlook on it now, but that is really an album that deserves to be heard in its entirety.

  • @TheAlexIceman
    @TheAlexIceman 11 місяців тому

    [USERNAME] I compose as well.

  • @Starman_67
    @Starman_67 Рік тому

    I have generally liked the little I've heard of Haken. I like the style of music (big Dream Theatre fan), but his one I didn't connect with. I was 18 in 1985 and heavily into Maiden, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and similar.
    Not that I don't like it, I can listen and enjoy. Just didn't connect with this one.
    Thanks Doug. Appreciate you. 🙏
    🤘😎🤘

  • @brunofelixmusic
    @brunofelixmusic Рік тому

    Oh, hi Doug, big fan here. Well, if you allow me, I’d like to recommend you a song to be reacted. This is a song composed by Steve Vai, but this version is from the CD/DVD “Sound Theories Vol. I & II.” The cool think about this song’s version (compared with the original release) is that this version was recorded with the “Metropole Orchestra (a jazz and pop orchestra based in the Netherlands).”
    Well, without any further ado, here it is:
    Steve Vai - Bledsoe Bluvd. (Feat. Metropole Orkest) - ua-cam.com/video/Nvh3bN22-MY/v-deo.html

  • @huntsfx3334
    @huntsfx3334 Рік тому

    React to nova era by angra

  • @henryt9731
    @henryt9731 8 місяців тому

    I’m glad i found Haken. DT is so repetitive nowadays. The difference after the drummer change is unreal.

  • @donalking5460
    @donalking5460 Рік тому

    Sound like tool

  • @bizooki3930
    @bizooki3930 Рік тому +1

    can u pls do less the " i m liitle bored now, so i ll read the lyrics" thing , and analyze more these beautiful arrangements, and chord progressions, melodies etc ? You can help people enrich their own composing with your great knowledge and perfect pitch etc , through beautiful songs like this one