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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2021
  • Sales of bicycles and related accessories went up by 110 per cent in 2020, compared to the year before. The cycling boom during the COVID-19 pandemic has added fuel to the age-old conflict between cyclists and motorists. As the war for the road wages on, Talking Point finds out what the key issues are and how they can be addressed.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 412

  • @samesamebutdifferent563
    @samesamebutdifferent563 3 роки тому +234

    What CNA failed to ask here is "why the government aims for a car lite society but not willing to invest in dedicated cycling paths separated from roads and walkways". This is no rocker science, just look at what the Dutch do. Government's excuse has always been not enough space but if there is a will (imagine PM says just do it), there will be a way.

    • @NoMercyLaVoyage
      @NoMercyLaVoyage 2 роки тому +5

      Cash is king that’s why. They collect all the COE money. On a wider and non-biased perspective, they want a net-zero carbon Singapore but aren’t allowing cyclists to even cycle properly. Like, cycling has zero carbon emissions. So, increase the bike paths to make it more convenient instead of increasing the bike paths to make them longer. Bike lanes is also a good shout

    • @gwarguraqueentrickstarcoat9110
      @gwarguraqueentrickstarcoat9110 2 роки тому +2

      @@NoMercyLaVoyage i agree
      But i have a few problems with the government in singapore about the laws against cyclist
      Singapore is well known around the world as" Disneyland but with death penalty"
      This one of the only country in the world where the laws are so strict
      That citizens here are afraid of these laws implemented here in singapore that they are not willing speak up about the laws here in singapore
      The problem here is singapore government puts very harsh and strict laws against cyclists like helments are mandertory on roads and needs to have a safety distance between groups of 5 cyclists that kind of make us citzens more afraid to use have bike just to cycle across singapore
      Many people use bikes not just as a way for exercise but for trips to get from A to B or use them to get our own needed necessities.
      By putting such strict laws against cyclists, its decourages people to even bike here in singapore as people are afraid of facing fines or even capital punishment just to ride bikes on the roads
      Aslo, by just putting so much blame on cyclist, motorist are much less targeted by the public as the Land Transport Authority (Aslo called LTA)put up pictures and videos of errand cyclists on social media makes everyone ridicule them even more.
      Aslo, motorist needs to be hold accountable more than cyclist as motor vehicles kill cyclists more, not the other way around.
      It really makes me extremely uphappy with the government here in Singapore that it evem discourages me from riding bikes in singapore at all

    • @NoMercyLaVoyage
      @NoMercyLaVoyage 2 роки тому +1

      @@gwarguraqueentrickstarcoat9110 I live in Punggol and study at Temasek Polytechnic. It would be so nice to cycle there but with the laws, I’m just too scared i’d break one of them

    • @smonyboy
      @smonyboy Рік тому

      CNA questioning the government? no way

  • @leethomaskc3327
    @leethomaskc3327 3 роки тому +138

    The authorities failed to realise that it is not the total length of cycling path, it is the quality and width of the cycling path that matters. 2 metres width to cater for 2-way traffic (cycling and pedestrian traffic) maybe enough for amateur cyclist going at super low speed, but that is definitely not enough for those who cycle faster. By the way, the on-road cycling path along Tanah Merah Coast Road is often littered with sand, pebbles, boulders and wooden logs due to nearby never-ending construction sites.

    • @888jucu
      @888jucu 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed, the road shoulder is often littered with sand and bits of glass etc that get blown to the side by traffic. I use the path if its clean but not if its not

    • @hanzo9941
      @hanzo9941 2 роки тому +4

      Those useless speed bumps as well. 50 total for a 1km stretch is insane.

  • @ldiosyncrasy
    @ldiosyncrasy 3 роки тому +89

    "In the US, there were 84 cyclist deaths on the roads in July 2020, a 25% surge compared to the month before." 15:30
    Sounds like a case of cherrypicking. Of all the months to choose from, why pick June and July? July is also the warmest month of summer, so people tend to cycle more, no surprise there.
    It's also laughable to talk about a "25% surge" or "double the figure" when the figures are so dreadfully small. In comparison, several thousand motorists die each month in the US!

    • @ch0892
      @ch0892 3 роки тому +1

      I share the same thoughts as you. They see the percentages and not the figures.
      it's like country A has increase accidents from 10000 to 11000 vs country B accidents cases from 2 to 4.
      well i guess country B is unsafe because it has risen 50% or double the figure while country A has only risen 10%

    • @Potatomatoo
      @Potatomatoo 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly

  • @user-yw5wf6kz5t
    @user-yw5wf6kz5t 3 роки тому +119

    A dedicated cycling lane please, just like the pedestrian path. Have seen those overseas.

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому +1

      Did u see ppl walking in cycling?

    • @samesamebutdifferent563
      @samesamebutdifferent563 3 роки тому +21

      Not just cycling paths, but separated cycle paths from walkways and roads. Learn from the Dutch. This no rocket science.

    • @whitewhale9131
      @whitewhale9131 2 роки тому

      @@patricklee2738 yes, tourists :P

    • @LonesomeBossDaily
      @LonesomeBossDaily 2 роки тому

      That would mean cutting down more greenery and trees just to make another path? Why not learn from Japan and Taiwan? Their roads are narrower and there are a lot of areas where cyclists and motorists have to share road, the difference is the people whether cyclist or motorists are generally more patience and considerate than SG

    • @idromano
      @idromano 2 роки тому +1

      @@LonesomeBossDaily No, not necessarily, but it often means taking space from car parking for example.

  • @dennistan2724
    @dennistan2724 3 роки тому +87

    I am a Singaporean living in Japan, the streets here are so much more narrower, all users coexists. The root of the problem is a lack of consideration and some patience, a polite excuse would make every situation better. Certainly against licensing, fines… sigh.

    • @BBFA-eb9xr
      @BBFA-eb9xr Рік тому

      but japan dont have road tax right?

    • @5688gamble
      @5688gamble 8 місяців тому +1

      Narrow streets change the psychology of driving. When streets are narrow and there are a lot of pedestrians and cyclists around, people pay more attention. Wide roads make driving into a passive activity. Narrow roads function as a form of traffic-calming. If a street feels uncomfortable to drive on, you drive carefully, if it is very accommodating you drive on autopilot!

    • @cheenangng4050
      @cheenangng4050 3 місяці тому

      I was in Germany and they have cycling lanes also, but when I spoke with my colleagues there the reply was “we hate those “beep beep “cyclists”

    • @apraew20
      @apraew20 3 місяці тому

      And summer in Japan is only 3 months long. In Singapore, it's always summer.
      Am I right??

  • @sanderw7153
    @sanderw7153 3 роки тому +63

    "I didn't even know there were so many rules. I think a test would solve this problem. 8:43"
    Seriously, as a Dutch person the ignorance on display here is just mind boggling. In our cities 10 year old children can ride their bikes to school safely. Are you saying our children are somehow smarter than your adults? No, our streets are simply designed much safer than your streets.
    Most cycling should be viewed as an extension of walking. The thing people often seem to have a problem with is people who cycle as a sport on fast bikes with lycra clothing. It's fine to regulate that, but don't regulate ordinary people who use a simple upright bike to get from A to B faster than walking. You wouldn't make pedestrians take a test either. If Amsterdam can do without a test for cyclists, surely Singapore can too.

    • @Triadii
      @Triadii 3 роки тому +4

      You can’t compare Amsterdam with Singapore. In many ways Amsterdam is and has always been much more advanced than in Singapore, both attitude and infrastructure-wise

    • @queertales
      @queertales 2 роки тому +6

      Since so many people cycle in the Netherlands, most drivers are also cyclists. In most other countries people haven't ridden a bike since they were kids, and probably never ridden in traffic, so they have no idea how what it feels like to be passed by a fast vehicle with literally a few cm margin. I've often argued that as part of taking your driver's license, you should be required to ride a bike in city traffic.

    • @brandonkoh8361
      @brandonkoh8361 2 роки тому +3

      @@Triadii I take slight offense to that statement. People who arent from singapore think of singapore and us singaporeans as rather forward and progressive. Ive heard next to nothing about amsterdam other than its red light district is famous. And as for dutch stereotypes, Ive heard that theyre nice europeans. Assuming youre from amsterdam, youre really not living up to that expectation.

    • @aldricong
      @aldricong Рік тому

      Shut up lar Brandon take your sensitive easily butthurt ass out of here

    • @adriansingapore
      @adriansingapore Рік тому

      wow so condescending! 😮

  • @Furyous96
    @Furyous96 3 роки тому +116

    The reason people think there are more misbehaving cyclist is because only cyclists that are misbehaving are shown. In current state of social media, negative things get more attention.

    • @noproblematallmate
      @noproblematallmate 3 роки тому +3

      Doesn't really matter if they behave... they block the whole traffic due to their slow speed. Sometimes 2 bicycles can obstruct a whole bus (~60 people) from reaching their destination because they keep left and buses keep left too :).
      No laws for minimum speed results in cyclists cycling slowly because they are tired and going uphill. The whole world have to wait for them. In motorist world we call this road hogging.
      Even frustrating is that the cyclist usually doing it as a sport while people are busy travelling and using the road as transportation.

    • @trillistseth
      @trillistseth 2 роки тому +11

      @@noproblematallmate … so cyclists should have separated bike paths. They help motorists too.
      Also the idea of 2 cyclists holding up 60 people on a bus is 100% true in that one scenario, but generally cyclists use road space a lot more efficiently than cars. Aka you can fit a lot more cyclists on a bit of road than cars. So by cycling you are reducing that amount of cars on the road, thereby reducing congestion.
      Aka if everyone cycling got in a car instead, congestion would increase massively

    • @noproblematallmate
      @noproblematallmate 2 роки тому +2

      @@trillistseth My main issue with cycling on road is that it is mainly done as a sport and not for transport. So its a redundant congestion and stress on the roads. These people would not be in a car instead if we ban cycling on roads; they'll be cycling in the park connectors or finding some other sport to do.

    • @longnguyen80
      @longnguyen80 2 роки тому +6

      @@noproblematallmate because people who actually wants to use bike for commuting don't find it safe to ride along cars. You need separate bike lanes. Look at Netherland.

    • @idromano
      @idromano 2 роки тому +2

      yeah, and the bad street design attracts the bad behaviour

  • @idevoru
    @idevoru 3 роки тому +97

    The answer is simple: graciousness
    The one thing motorist, cyclist and pedestrian all lack and a general singaporean problem.

    • @jamalparra5879
      @jamalparra5879 3 роки тому +6

      cant agree more with you there. third world people living in a first world country. sia suay

    • @hssng670
      @hssng670 3 роки тому +1

      If only all of us were to be more gracious and kind to each other.

  • @NikkenMagboy
    @NikkenMagboy 3 роки тому +58

    “Higher fatality RATE” attributed to more cyclists. If more cyclists them more deaths. Same as in motorists no? This entire segment is full examples of how data is manipulated to arrive at a preferred conclusion.

    • @pantster9855
      @pantster9855 3 роки тому +2

      Have to agree with you here, the statistics in this whole piece are not well presented and appear skewed. Singapore’s road fatality rate of 2.73 per 100,000 citizens is higher than that of London, Hong Kong and Tokyo, but less than Seoul’s. Still, compared to London and Hong Kong, Singapore's rate of accidents per 100,000 cars is far lower. This indicates that while Singapore sees fewer road accidents compared to its peers, the accidents are more severe.
      - There were 7,690 road accidents involving injuries in 2018
      - 120 people were killed in traffic accidents in 2018
      - Elderly pedestrians accounted for two-thirds of all pedestrian fatalities. (1 in 2 accidents involving elderly pedestrians was due to jaywalking)
      - Motorcyclists and pillion riders account for about 1 in 2 of overall road fatalities
      - 73% of heavy vehicle drivers speed when traffic is light
      - Singapore’s road fatality rate of 2.73 per 100,000 citizens is higher than London, Hong Kong and Tokyo.

  • @janjaapklomp1364
    @janjaapklomp1364 3 роки тому +68

    Dont look for examles in the US or London, look at Amsterdam and other cities in the Netherlands.

    • @footytube9500
      @footytube9500 3 роки тому +6

      denmark, 90% of their population cycles

    • @johnshum5722
      @johnshum5722 3 роки тому +2

      They are already following the US route by making helmets on the road necessary and making it an offense to not wear one.

    • @vincecarlo
      @vincecarlo 3 роки тому +1

      NYC n London are Perfect Examples of CHAOTIC MAYHEM created by Cyclist
      Don't Nip it in the butt, the Exact Same thing will happen in SG

    • @pantster9855
      @pantster9855 3 роки тому

      Singapore’s road fatality rate of 2.73 per 100,000 citizens is higher than that of London, Hong Kong and Tokyo, but less than Seoul’s. Still, compared to London and Hong Kong, Singapore's rate of accidents per 100,000 cars is far lower. This indicates that while Singapore sees fewer road accidents compared to its peers, the accidents are more severe.

    • @jimsquire-chestnuts8381
      @jimsquire-chestnuts8381 3 роки тому

      I used to live in KL and have been to Singapore and Amsterdam several times for research into my masters in urban governance. The best cycling infrastructure in the world is in Beijing which is why I choose to live here.

  • @shaunkong62
    @shaunkong62 3 роки тому +36

    When you are in a car, driving, try to give way to cyclists. When you are a cyclist, try not to be in the way of motorists or pedestrians. Please remember to be more aware of other road users as a cyclist. With modern electric vehicles like e-bikes try to give other road users warning that you are around and travelling very fast..There is absolutely no excuse for ramming a pedestrian with your cycle or e-bike. Remember the times a car driver cannot feel you, well you are as feeling to anyone you just smash into with your bike. RIDE safely always....!!!

    • @neoyikhao
      @neoyikhao 3 роки тому +3

      This are common sense, but many in Singapore only abide to laws, not sense, not empathy

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому

      Many don't use common sense lo

  • @Danderman888
    @Danderman888 3 роки тому +82

    This sounds so much like the authorities trying to pass the buck.
    Admittedly, there are errant cyclists, but there are as many errant motorists. To generalise either way is also wrong, as even those who cyclists and motorists who are more conscientious get unfairly included in the mix.
    I am both a motorist and a cyclist... have been for the better part of nearly 5 decades as a cyclist and 4 decades as a motorist, but I tend to be more bias towards cyclists, for the single reason that there are more in numbers and severity in accidents caused by motorists than cyclists.
    The solution has always been obvious, and especially with the growing trend towards a more environment friendly mindset change. That is, to create more dedicated infrastructure for the three types of road users, i.e. motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.
    I may be wrong, but I've felt for a long time now, that the authorities favour motorists, especially those who are more well heeled, for economic reasons, and it has shown in so many ways.
    In the past twenty years, we have had a rise in supercars on Singapore roads, most creating such a raucous din every time they rev their engines and speeding down suburban roads, yet they are not penalised for the noise they create whereas motorcycles are not allowed to be as noisy.
    And have we not noticed the increase in fatal accidents in the past decade or so involving these supercars? Just last Wednesday, a Macclaren zoomed right in front of another car on the East Coast Expressway, just missing that car, and continued to careen into the potted plants used as a divider on the expressway. Why aren't we highlighting these errant motorists? Is it because they "contribute more to the economy" than the rest of us, or is it all about the elitism that the government is so staunchly trying to deny is getting more prevalent in our society today?
    Create the proper infrastructure for all!
    Have everyone, motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike tow the line by obeying the laws.
    Penalise each and every recalcitrant motorist, cyclist or pedestrian, without bias and see how long it will take to make our roads a safer place for all. It has been done and achieve elsewhere, so why can't we?

    • @HaveAGoodHeart
      @HaveAGoodHeart 3 роки тому +12

      well said Teng Boon! I bought my road bike before covid start, as I always like the excitement offered by a road bike going fast on road.. and it is more so cosnidering i do it myself, as in I have to pedal.. but the motorists have not been kind, so often they are so close to me, and just a small mistakes you get horned non stop.. and whenever there are some cyclists who got hit, you will see sick comments like "is the car ok?", "I am overjoy watching this and i watched it again and again" .... with such sick mentaltiy it is no surprise that accidents happened. You are spot on on the need for proper infra for cyclists... our govt is not keen as this is not revenue generating for them, so i hope at least they just build a few more bike lanes... you are also spot on on it is the motorists that caused the most accidents. Lets hope for car lite to come soon , we should all strive for a greener and healthier Earth for our future generations

    • @neoyikhao
      @neoyikhao 3 роки тому +6

      First time in Singapore meh? A perfect fine land for the rich, a “fine” land for the poor

    • @bradtan78
      @bradtan78 3 роки тому +1

      We do have cycling paths in Singapore and the government is set to spend 1 billion dollars to connect the paths to provide 750km of cycling paths in Singapore by 2025
      www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/cycling-path-network-sped-up-hdb-12504224
      The issue is not so much the people who use bicycles for commute. Those folks ride slow and easy, so they do not work up a sweat when they reach work or go home.
      The main issue are those riders who want to ride on the road for speed. Even with we do build cycling paths like amsterdam or new york we will still have issues as there will be a portion of rider whom want to be on the road not on the paths ( examples can be seen at east coast park) and will move over to the roads due to congestion on the paths.
      As you have mention we need to fine non-compliant people without prejudice. Seeing as putting law enforcement at every location is not feasible how about more cameras with facial recognition to identify and send letters to them for the fines.
      Or to get citizens to provide video proof of the incident to electronically send to the authorities.
      Enforcement is not very feasible. After the operation is over, it will be back to business, in general not a good use of public funds.
      We need to educate, provide awareness, to create a better / new norm

    • @888jucu
      @888jucu 3 роки тому

      @@bradtan78 I agree as one of those cyclist who cycles fast as a sport sometimes 40+ kmph its not safe for me or members of the public if I use bike paths. Luckily Ive been riding many years so am a little bit more street smart to the possibilities but Im not so niave to assume Im safe. Ive noticed over many years cycling that heavy vehicles are more mindful and accomodating that cars. I guess a part of their training has been upgraded over the years whereas car drivers get a license for life and never get upgraded.

  • @smellysam
    @smellysam 3 роки тому +20

    Holland and Belgium, manage a very high percentage of cyclists with no helmet or licenses. This mostly due to a bicycle being first and foremost a tool to do things like go to school. So kids as young as my 4 year old learn road rules at school, both in theory and practice. And since the critical mass of everybody being a cyclist or related to one, everybody is more careful. Motorists should also consider cyclists as one less car to be stuck behind, no as a pest - all in all, the 2 solutions are education of cyclists and education of motorists.

    • @Triadii
      @Triadii 3 роки тому

      Not only cycling, belgium has safer roads for driving too because of the separated lanes, it’s really a win win situation

    • @tanalson
      @tanalson 10 місяців тому +1

      More importantly, the infrastructure must be built so that it is smooth and safe to ride and walk

    • @smellysam
      @smellysam 10 місяців тому

      @@tanalson I’ve only been to Singapore to work a few times, but overall drivers are way less crazy than in France or England.
      There were footpaths on most streets. But as soon as you go to secondary streets in commercial or industrial areas, I found I couldn’t run on them a night due to poor maintenance (holes, big tree roots) or had to take another street because of a pack of stray dogs.
      There’s more good than bad and with a bit of political will, commuting on bike or e-bike could be easy.

  • @kevtacy1
    @kevtacy1 3 роки тому +60

    A cyclist blew past you without informing you he was overtaking you on the right... So how is he supposed to inform u?
    If u say ring your bell, so should cars and motorbikes horn u and scare the bejeezus out of you?

    • @ngwaiyan7414
      @ngwaiyan7414 3 роки тому +20

      I also laughed when the host said that, and I realise cos he was very protected, and didn't had the opportunity to inform the person in front that he wants to overtake.
      And if he were to use his brains, he would have realised that even if he is driving a car, the driver behind can't really inform the car in front that he wants to overtake unless the person in front looks through the rear mirror lol. (And please... they should really show the percentage of cyclist not signalling for turns vs cars not signalling for turns and overtaking, might be surprising)

    • @SamFromVACE
      @SamFromVACE 3 роки тому +5

      I do. I do sound out "Bike on your right, thank you!" when I approaching a pedestrian from the rear.

    • @kevtacy1
      @kevtacy1 3 роки тому +1

      @@SamFromVACE so u gonna have a nice ringing bell on the road too?

    • @Ponder_lust
      @Ponder_lust 3 роки тому

      Precisely. Nice video but that part was pretty dumb.

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому

      @@ngwaiyan7414 well they JUZ don't like cyclists on the rd. JUZ know how to say ban bicycle on rd, cuz many accidents. But all can see in UA-cam everyday got accident car n car, u got them say ban car. Next waiting for someone to say car got insurance.

  • @ge3p
    @ge3p 3 роки тому +55

    After watching this video, I just can’t stop myself from commenting.
    First, the Bike Guru to encourage cyclist to be licensed. I think Singapore will be the only country that taking up a hobby required license. So when I teach my 3 year old son cycle, my son gotta attend a cycling theory? It should be my job to teach my son what are the things to watch out.
    Next, why the death rate show only the particular month? Cos the percentage show an increase in your video favour?
    The only person in the video who is thinking is Assoc Prof Raymond Ong. Doing a bicycle only path might work. But the bicycle only path also don’t mean pedestrians can’t be in the lane. It’s about respecting one another, regardless cyclist, motorist or pedestrians.
    And to whoever that kick in new law, please think till it hurt before enforcing new law. I agree that clearing our table after meal at hawker and foodcourt is a good practice. But it's a practice not a law. You don't fine someone who is late for a doctor appointment. You encourage everyone to be punctual for appointments and clear table after their meals. If no one doing means your campaign failed. Change a better campaign and not turning it into a law.

    • @neoyikhao
      @neoyikhao 3 роки тому +7

      Mhm sadly, Singaporeans only follow laws, not morale nor common sense

    • @neoyikhao
      @neoyikhao 3 роки тому

      “If i wont be punished for it, I might as well do/not do it” kind of mentality

    • @ge3p
      @ge3p 3 роки тому +2

      @@neoyikhao gotta change lo. Or every little details turn to law then everyone becoming like robot doing step 1.2.3. Haha

    • @bradtan78
      @bradtan78 3 роки тому +2

      You will be penalized for not clearing your table. We are not Europeans nor Australians nor Japanese. We do not listen to nor want to be socially conscious, its our culture and social norms. We correct the direction through fines and enforcement. It produces the safest and cleanest city in the world.
      Mandatory For Diners To Return Dirty Trays, Crockery And Clean Table Litter At Hawker Centres, Coffeeshops And Food Courts
      14 May 2021
      NEA will step-up advisory stance for table littering offences and enforce against non-compliance at hawker centres from 1 September 2021, and work with SFA to progressively roll out enforcement to coffeeshops and food courts.
      Leaving litter on dining tables is an offence under the Environmental Public Health Act
      www.nea.gov.sg/media/news/news/index/mandatory-for-diners-to-return-dirty-trays-crockery-and-clean-table-litter-at-hawker-centres-coffeeshops-and-food-courts

    • @bradtan78
      @bradtan78 3 роки тому +1

      Actually another hobby that needs a license is Drones, flying, sailing and I am pretty sure that there are others.

  • @pro-gy4nc
    @pro-gy4nc 3 роки тому +30

    Maybe let’s also talk about all those drivers which change lanes last second without ever using the blinker; those who have to overtake extra close because they think it’s funny; those using their phones while driving; those rushing through red lights last moment etc. I’ll take a video on my next 4 hours ride and put it up. Just to highlight how many errand drivers are out there. Will you show it CNA?

    • @confucious1518
      @confucious1518 2 роки тому

      Well, I believe all the drivers made those mistakes out there before, those who said they don’t make those actions are most likely lying

  • @ksaitor_
    @ksaitor_ 3 роки тому +29

    A lot of good points been mentioned in comments here. I just wanted to add that over the past few months there has been a surge in content pieces about cycling. Both in online publications and on UA-cam. Interestingly enough, none of them are written (or produced) by cyclists nor take sufficient time to interview cyclists. This video is no exception, unfortunately. And I wonder why…
    If journalists and regulators think that cyclists’ opinions will be biased, I beg to differ. All cyclists are also pedestrians. Many are also runners, some are also motorcyclist or car drivers. They all encounter other cyclists and associated problems while they themselves are not cycling. These people would have the most balanced point of view and are more likely to come up with sensible ideas.

  • @Higgo64
    @Higgo64 3 роки тому +44

    The host is trying to do a unbiased opinion but he isn't. He certainly isn't a cyclist

    • @emphibian
      @emphibian 2 роки тому +2

      yep, agree 100%. it's quite a disappointing report not to mention a really bad understanding of cycling culture

    • @COD0307
      @COD0307 2 роки тому

      hard to be unbiased looking at the behaviour of cyclists on the road. Yes some follow most. Most break, almost all never stop at red traffic lights

    • @jsp001
      @jsp001 2 роки тому +1

      @@COD0307 Yes all motorists are saints n angels... ALL of them always slow down when approaching any traffic lights, zebra/pedestrian crossings, road junctions, filter lanes, etc....
      besides another 1001 road/traffic offences that these saintly motorists NEVER commit.
      Yeah rite!!

    • @COD0307
      @COD0307 2 роки тому

      @@jsp001 No not all motorists are but most are unlike the cyclists where most have utter disregard for law and a handful follow.

    • @jsp001
      @jsp001 2 роки тому +1

      @@COD0307 You are prone to OVER-exaggeration when it comes to the detriment of cyclists, my friend.
      MOST cyclists, in FACT, DO follow the traffic/road rules, especially nowadays.
      Yes, there's always the stubborn and/or ignorant ones (especially those ah peks and FWs) who flout the rules... but its NOT as if they're everywhere all over Singapore causing traffic chaos, for goodness sake!!
      I've been driving (my own car, not PHV) for more than 20yrs. I've also had a superbike for around 5yrs.
      I've NEVER had ANY cyclist "bother" and/or inconvenience me on the roads...not even once.
      Sure, i've come across many cyclists throughout the years of driving and riding.
      Just overtake SAFELY and be on your way...it typically takes 2-5secs.
      Cant manage that?
      Then you really shouldnt be driving at all bro.

  • @funnybugger13
    @funnybugger13 3 роки тому +15

    11:37 "not all cyclists follow the rules"? yes, but the example given was wrong
    the cyclist did not have to inform/warn you when overtaking
    1. how? in the loud traffic you cant hear them
    2. do cars inform/warn you when overtaking? do they honk at you every time they want to overtake you? no; they just overtake you even when they're in the same lane as you
    "you can hear the car coming" doesnt work because in that situation there were more than 10 cars on the road, you cant tell when a car is about to overtake you
    as for cyclists on pavements,
    1. EVERYONE including cyclists should keep to their left especially narrow roads that can only fit about 2 people
    never go school trip before?? teacher always tell students to keep to your left
    2. cyclists should always slow down when about to overtake anyone if within close proximity of another person (e.g. under 1 arms length)
    (personal opinion)
    EVERYONE should always check their right/left before turning that direction, turning without checking can cause bumping into: cyclist taking over, pedestrian taking over, jogger taking over.
    always be wary of your surroundings. same thing as stop using your phone while walking and driving a car on the road

    • @jasper939393
      @jasper939393 3 роки тому +2

      I was about to post this exact response! How in a video like this, where he even mentioned at the start that cyclists can overtake on the right can he then follow up with such a confused example! It would be great if CNA made content explaining the rules rather then just asking what people think.

  • @MJ-bk7xw
    @MJ-bk7xw 3 роки тому +16

    18:54 I agree with the lady that shared paths should be enforced. There's too little awareness by both pedestrians and cyclists to stay in their tracks. I've seen too many pedestrians on earphones strolling in the middle of the cycling path, oblivious to their surroundings.

    • @MJ-bk7xw
      @MJ-bk7xw 3 роки тому

      @@xyse oh yes I have seen some of these too.

  • @jwfriar
    @jwfriar 2 роки тому +6

    I made it through 4 mins before I couldn’t take any more of his obvious anti-cyclist crap. The quiz was a joke designed not on how to ride properly, but on inane questions about punishments. Obviously and anti-cycling hit job.
    So better dude.

  • @shaunmckenzie5509
    @shaunmckenzie5509 3 роки тому +30

    Look to the Netherlands, there's no reason why Singapore can't do the same

    • @happyhap7207
      @happyhap7207 3 роки тому

      So Singapore wants to copy netherlands? its funny how you take UMBRAGE when anything of singapore is slightly copied...but have no issues and think its a really good situation denmark, then why hav'nt all other european countries or others done exactly the same...Netherlands has no option but to promote cyclists because their cities and towns are extremely congested and historically not planned for large traffic. Cyclists are funny, they want to make the world go back to bullock carts maybe and dream of a world without cars. That is so stupid. If you have a heart attack, you need to go long distance or want to go for groceries, assuming you dont shop just 2 bags of it, or want to bring kids from school...etc etc etc....you need cars and trucks...thats what roads are built for..these roads are not meant for cyclists even from a safety point of view and the injusties the hard and rough tarmac will cause...cycling is for health and recreation or if you want to use it as a main mode of transport,,,that is YOUR choice...and you must choose based on facilities available....the world will not change just because a minority of people prefer cycles over cars..with electric and automated cars coming...that is the green and good future...we dont want a Car lite world...we want a luxurious and healthy world and cycling is not the only way to stay healthy, infact in many ways its a bad choice...where cycles are an ok form of exercise...not the main mode of transport...

    • @SMB8027G
      @SMB8027G 3 роки тому

      the only reason why it is stopping is LTA planners don't cycle thats why they can't understand

    • @happyhap7207
      @happyhap7207 3 роки тому

      @@SMB8027G You dont get it...Why is cycling so important that everyone should adopt it...you like it, so enjoy it...dont expect the world to change for it...tomorrow if I get into a craze about riding horses...and a minority of population picks it up...then we will demand to remove the cycle tracks and make way for horses?? what is the most practical, important and majority demanded mode of transportation is preferred by the system....and its not cycling...

    • @Lainlein
      @Lainlein 3 роки тому +1

      @@happyhap7207 it's good for health and environment, plus relatively cheap and accessible to anyone. Regarding carrying big loads, children, etc. it can all be done by using heavy duty bikes. I believe the Netherlands are so bike-friendly 1) for political reasons 2) because it's a very flat country. In comparison, for example Germany (where I'm from) is a lot more hilly or even mountainous, and has a large car industry that is indirectly subsidised by car-friendly cities, bad public infrastucture in rural areas, and motorways without any speedlimits. But it's slowly changing in Germany as well, covid lead to normal bicycles and heavy-duty bike becoming extremely popular in the cities.

    • @happyhap7207
      @happyhap7207 3 роки тому

      @@Lainlein Well its good for you since you like it...as for the good for env and health stuff...so is walking...now I like walking...let me ask all you cyclists to stop doing it...and make all paths walker friendly as cyclists are a hazard...and ofcourse since everyone is walking we need lots of space...i hope you get the message...there is a reason cars,buses and trucks exist...maybe you like to bike in spandex in scorching heat,...others dont...

  • @sebastianjoubert1363
    @sebastianjoubert1363 3 роки тому +23

    The main issue is the absolute lack of infrastructure for cycling in Singapore. I hope they follow up and build dedicated and off road bike lanes that connect the city in functional way.

    • @bradtan78
      @bradtan78 3 роки тому +2

      Not enough land, and pretty soon you will see congestion in the dedicated bike lanes like you do in popular areas like east coast park and marina barrage.

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому

      So those accidents u see car n car is driving W/O driving licence?

    • @whaatt6791
      @whaatt6791 3 роки тому +5

      @@bradtan78 you're forgetting that all of those cyclists are potentially people that would have traveled by car instead, causing much worse traffic jams. Cycle congestion is way better for everyone than traffic jams.

  • @snicklefritzal
    @snicklefritzal 3 роки тому +5

    The only category of road users that kill anyone are motorists, they kill eachother and they kill cyclists and pedestrians - thousands per day. Yet cyclists are held to this impossible standard where everyone is judged on the actions of the few, regardless of whether they're any real danger or nuisance to anyone. Cycling casually/commuting? You're too slow. Cycle as a hobby? You're too fast/dangerous. Why is it always motorists who feel the need to give 'advice' to cyclists? They're the ones who cause all the issues we have on the roads, be it congestion, accidents or pollution.

  • @ILOVEDEFENDINGTHE1PERCENT
    @ILOVEDEFENDINGTHE1PERCENT 3 роки тому +12

    Singaporean drives are understandably angsty, self-centered and selfish, result of the system. COE so expensive bound to create some sense of entitlement amongst motorists. Mutal steps taken from both sides will no doubt solve most of the problems. People overreact to cycling accidents likely due to lower numbers, and we are all so accustomed to accidents between motorists what we tend to brush it aside. Honestly it says more about the culture and the society of Singapore more that anything. i.e. Road and city infrastructure.

  • @richardsirrs8423
    @richardsirrs8423 3 роки тому +21

    Every car has a camera ..how many cyclists have camera showing the terrible driving habits in SG. I've ridden in China, Aus, all of central America, most of Europe, America...Singapore drivers are worst I've ever encountered, so selfish.

  • @ianhomerpura8937
    @ianhomerpura8937 2 роки тому +6

    Looks like car-centric culture is really present everywhere, even there in Singapore.

  • @sanderw7153
    @sanderw7153 3 роки тому +4

    "Authorities are reviewing rules to see how road safety can be improved. 7:57" Such idiocracy, like registering bicycles is going to help anything with road safety haha. How about you focus on building safer roads instead? You know it is called "road safety" after all... so build safe roads, simple. Put in some proper bike infra instead of adding more rules that discourage people from cycling. Cyclists could be a net plus for any city, look at places in the Netherlands!

    • @Triadii
      @Triadii 3 роки тому +1

      Singapore’s roads aren’t well designed for both cars and bicycles. They haven’t changed the model and design of the road since the 70s, it seems like that that mistake has made safe driving and cycling here a gone case

  • @richardsirrs8423
    @richardsirrs8423 3 роки тому +18

    The motorcyclist complaining about the cyclist weaving in and out of traffic, whilst he himself weaves in and out of traffic

  • @qyu...976
    @qyu...976 3 роки тому +56

    Most important is discipline!!! I live here in Germany the cyclists here they give a sign most of the time if they wanna turn left or right. They always keep the right path while walking or cycling😊

    • @nottsoserious
      @nottsoserious 3 роки тому +24

      This video blames cyclists a lot tbh. Sure, everyone has seen stupid ass cyclists. But everyone has also seen stupid ass drivers. A certain percentage of all traffic is stupid. It is the responsibility of the infrastructure to minimize the chance of this stupidity to cause accidents.
      In the Netherlands, there are separated bicycle paths on the side of the road. Everyone who drives is also a cyclist so everyone actually understands each other. Both drivers and cyclists know how to behave. It's pretty simple.

    • @qyu...976
      @qyu...976 3 роки тому

      @@nottsoserious ☺👍🏻

    • @qyu...976
      @qyu...976 3 роки тому +1

      Introduce road safty cyclist in class 3 for children's here.

    • @disrael2101
      @disrael2101 3 роки тому +3

      Also need respect from the drivers which is even more.important

    • @roughneck1972
      @roughneck1972 3 роки тому +1

      @@nottsoserious Personally, i agreed with you, if you drives and you cycle too, you know how to behave.& know the danger. But in SG, i can be sure most of the cyclists do not have a driving license. They may not know the traffic rules. I even seen cyclist, cycling while holding mobile phone and chat.

  • @zqs1850
    @zqs1850 3 роки тому +14

    No amount of rules, enforcement, or infrastructure would work if EVERYONE does not exercise COMMON SENSE.

    • @suvespa
      @suvespa 3 роки тому

      The most COMMON SENSE comment ever. Now could you add a link where most can buy these 'COMMON SENSE' 🤭 lol
      Checked Shopee...not there haha

  • @ycs754
    @ycs754 3 роки тому +32

    In a shared path, the one who has the higher speed will have the tendency to ‘bully’ the slower user. Therefore, on the roads, motorists generally bully cyclists. Similarly on footpaths, cyclists usually bully pedestrians. When it comes to shared paths, the conflicts will always be there unless the users are educated about the code of conduct in using the paths. This applies to everyone including pedestrians as well.

    • @snooppy88
      @snooppy88 3 роки тому +1

      motorist dont bully cyclists in general. cyclists came onto the road and try to claim supremacy. that starts everything

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому

      If ALL KNOW keep LEFT. DONT WALK IN BICYCLE LANE.

    • @idromano
      @idromano 2 роки тому

      I agree, but the best education is proper infrastructure #visionzero

  • @freestyle680440
    @freestyle680440 3 роки тому +12

    There is really no point of implementing the test. You have hordes of people getting their license every day but there are still plenty of errant drivers, motorcyclists and cyclists out there. We should be cultivating a culture of giving way, and not trying to be like primary school kids and fighting to be in front.

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому

      1000% agreed. Now is all WAN to be King of the rd. So for is safety come first.

  • @jarylteo9814
    @jarylteo9814 3 роки тому +5

    Pedestrians need to be aware of their surroundings as well. I have my own bicycle which i use to go to the MRT every morning, for the past six months as it saves 20mins of walking time in total. I am a relatively safe cyclist, who don't go exceptionally fast on the pedestrian walkways and always keep my eyes out for potential dangers and i havent had an accident so far, touch wood. I have noticed different types of pedestrians in the past six months. There are some pedestrians who are self aware and watch the road, look out for traffic, kudus to them. However, there are many more who are on their phones, listening to loud music, or the worst walking with their head down, totally oblivious to what's going on around them. I was even scolded once for ringing my bell at someone who wasn't looking at the road and he said the bell "gave him a shock". In conclusion, I think a combined effort is needed from the pedestrians and cyclist in order to maintain the safety

  • @zarifaniq7555
    @zarifaniq7555 3 роки тому +8

    Not all drivers follow the rules too

    • @noproblematallmate
      @noproblematallmate 3 роки тому +3

      we get punished when we break the law based on our driving licence (minus points). how about cyclists? you pay with your lives and dirty the roads with your blood and severed limbs. inconvenience people with your mishap and mistake.

  • @sufiyansamsuri
    @sufiyansamsuri 3 роки тому +5

    Whether you’re a pedestrian, cyclist or motorist, the key consideration is to always be alert to your surroundings. I’ve seen multiple times cyclists almost hitting on pedestrians on the footpath, but don’t be too quick to put the blame on the cyclists. Many times pedestrians always opt to walk on the dedicated cycling lane instead of the walking path. This shows either a clear disregard or lack of awareness on the pedestrians’ part. Policy makers need to make assessments not based only on hard statistics but also through these behavioural perspectives.

    • @888jucu
      @888jucu 3 роки тому

      Many pedestrians are also too glued to there handphone to know what is going on around them I often see sometimes they enter to cross the road without even looking 🤦‍♂️

  • @only1cookiemonster
    @only1cookiemonster 3 роки тому +4

    the bike guru is full of crap lar... he doesnt even have a front light and rear lights on his bike to announce his presence on the road. have licensing really solve any road issues on the road? Even motorist with license identification cant be ensure that most of them are driving well let alone cyclist. What bout cyclist who ride to work daily. these are low income earners who may not be able to afford a license.? regular cycling clinics should help better manage it

  • @petert8931
    @petert8931 3 роки тому +18

    Strange you didn't interview motorists about road rules. They are the ones breaking rules and killing themselves and others. Duty of care / Strict liability is very civilised. There is no need reinvent the wheel. Learn from best countries Netherlands is a good start. They have a schooling process and priority and safety for people who cycle

  • @DrWatson610
    @DrWatson610 3 роки тому +4

    What is this useless trivia question targeted at the 4 cyclists at 4:37 ? You don't need to know the exact punishment for cycling without lights at night to know that it's absolutely idiotic and on those roads almost suicide to do so.

    • @jwfriar
      @jwfriar 2 роки тому

      I said the same - it was a quiz designed to be failed. He was trying to make cyclists look bad

  • @pantster9855
    @pantster9855 3 роки тому +5

    A fair test of road knowledge would then involve testing a group of drivers on their level of driving knowledge to assess whether the relative level of knowledge is the same between the 2 groups

  • @aloysius260500
    @aloysius260500 3 роки тому +11

    Instead of talking about it, why not fix the poorly designed infrastructure

  • @LakshmananLM
    @LakshmananLM 3 роки тому +27

    Etiquette. Mindfulness. That's what's missing. If you see everything as a confrontation or challenge to a right instead of peaceful coexistence, we can argue and fight till the cows come home and not solve this problem.

  • @sanderw7153
    @sanderw7153 3 роки тому +2

    21:38, no! The rules will do very little, people make mistakes. Roads need to be designed so that these mistakes won't cause accidents. Cars, bikes and pedestrians can coexist on the roads provided the roads are designed for the safety of vulnerable road users instead of just for the high throughput of cars. High throughput of cars in a city as dense as Singapore is a pipe dream to begin with.

  • @noproblematallmate
    @noproblematallmate 3 роки тому +3

    No licence, no age limit, no speed limit and sports-purpose cycling is okay. MOE can start a CCA for Primary School kids to cycle on roads with training wheels.

  • @gerabsb
    @gerabsb 3 роки тому +10

    Seems impossible... unless there is a fine involved. After all, it’s a fine country.

  • @edmundwongprop
    @edmundwongprop 3 роки тому +2

    Slipshod journalism by the MSM.
    Seriously laughing my ass off when that journalist said "Cyclist blew past us without informing". Goddamn I wonder how that noob of a journalist felt with all that cars literally "blowing past" them every second. Extremely EXAGGERATED!
    I would expect a journalist who tried riding on the roads to come up with better pointers on how to improve the infrastructure so that ALL road users can COEXIST.
    He will be a PERFECT example to show the dangers and inconveniences road cyclists face, as the INFRASTRUCTURE is only conducive for a very SMALL GROUP of people, mainly those who are experienced!
    If the roads are EASY to use, doesn't require EXTENSIVE knowledge, EVERYONE will use it! And if EVERYONE uses it, we can attain our CAR-LITE status SO MUCH FASTER!
    The infrastructure should be SECOND-NATURE to EVERYONE.

  • @boyan619
    @boyan619 3 роки тому +6

    should just BANNED all the vehicles no matter on the LAND, AIR or SEA & after that back to basic much more better settle 😎🤗

  • @yuanhawk
    @yuanhawk 2 роки тому +3

    Cyclists are given bad publicity nowadays is because of the nuisance that they have made on roads/pavements? Kid me not, the number casualties caused by cyclists are far lesser than errant motorists themselves, and its mostly caused by lousy road planning! Who designed shared cycling (20+km/h) & walking pavements (5km/h) is liable not the cyclist! It can also be said who legalised cycling on pavements is also liable!
    Licensing bikes is just a waste of taxpayers money. Why not just convert some less congested multi lanes and give 2 single small bike lane (1 on each side), how much does it cost, probably some paint cost and a bit of road partition, that's way lesser than doing the admin bs of licensing
    As a cyclist, it pains me to say that off-road cycling paths also serve no purpose if you don't maintain it or if you don't enforce the rules, its a Wild Wild West in its current state. The main reason why cyclists brave the roads is because the path system is a horrible mess (or design), and the regulations are worse. When creating ingenious cycling plans, policymakers should consider asking people who commute on a constant basis, and whether is it even possible to cycle on foot paths? The answer is no, given the dangers posed to pedestrians & cyclists themselves (phone zombies, cracked paths, barriers, potholes, etc).
    What CNA should be doing is ask for prominent cyclists who do long distances or commute on a constant basis (food delivery riders), and what risks they face, and what could be some nicer alternatives to the current road design. As to why did TMCR failed, its because few people ply that road, the government should instead be trying out road cycling lanes in newer towns like Punggol, and judge it fairly! If there is a will, there is a way, if the government really wishes for a car-lite society, they should make cycling lanes a priority and encourage people to cycle, even to the extent of limiting car access in accident prone areas!
    I am deeply concerned that CNA is not providing an unbiased story for cyclists, and instead choose to paint cyclists in a bad light and blaming the cyclists. Just bear in mind, there will be somebody in each person's family who cycles, and respecting them and keeping them safe is something society should do!

  • @888jucu
    @888jucu 3 роки тому +4

    Prof Ong at 12:14 describes a very real and risky manoeuvre and you have to be quite experienced to pull it off safely. Its definately not something for children to do alone or anybody who isnt experienced

  • @rusydididigamingandvlog2290
    @rusydididigamingandvlog2290 3 роки тому +3

    For me as cyclist i really don't cycling on the road i only cycling on path way

  • @s._3560
    @s._3560 2 роки тому +1

    Extremely high density living resulting in extreme overcrowding on a very small island. If they wanted to build a dedicated cycle lanes all over the island, a lot of roadside trees and land will have to be sacrificed which will lead to temperatures becoming hotter and more unbearable, and in turn probably lead to more stressed out cyclists, pedestrians and motorists.

  • @danielzayt6678
    @danielzayt6678 3 роки тому +1

    Only ppl to blame is the government for not implying cycling paths on roads and pavements

  • @qingshengpeng6524
    @qingshengpeng6524 2 роки тому +2

    I'm way more careful than these rules when cycling in Singapore. However, countless times buses and cars just rush by at full speed like I don't exist. Now I fear the roads and always go cycling on the sidewalks, no matter how slow and difficult the trip will be. The city traffic design in Singapore is so bad that 6 lanes and 8 lanes kind of roads are everywhere, and traffic lights every 100-200 meters. In CBD, shopping streets, and living areas around the world, speed limits for cars are set at 40km/h. In near-school and pedestrian-dense areas, speed limits are set at 20. You never felt so close to death when a double-deck full-size bus flew past you at 70km/h on the leftist side of the road. It's simply not true to blame cyclists when picking up the extremist part of them all. Let me ask you this, does it increase any chance of survivability for cyclists even if they follow all the outdated rules?

    • @qingshengpeng6524
      @qingshengpeng6524 2 роки тому +2

      Even worse is when you twist the words of 1-2 patients/year into "50% of injuries". Cars are the most dangerous type of transportation. References can be found in every statistic report. The modern private car design allows the driver to be completely safe when hitting pedestrians and bikes, and it's human nature to go as fast as we can when the road is 8 lanes wide. I just don't get it. There's no other city transportation that is decent enough for us to feel safe, and cars are limited in Singapore as they are super space-inefficient, noisy, and carbon emission-heavy. As a foreigner, I start to wonder if Singaporeans are somehow obsessed with the "American dream". Wake up, American cities are bankrupt!

  • @JTRAVEL4K
    @JTRAVEL4K 10 місяців тому +1

    Pls have more Dedicate Bicycle Only Lane, Bus only Lane and Lesser Lane for Cars and wider Pedestrian pathway with more trees and greenery. Thats the way to move forward to carlite Singapore

  • @travelguy78
    @travelguy78 2 місяці тому

    I own two cars, but love to chose the most convenient mode of transportation. If that is a Bicycle , MRT or a car depends on the situation. If you build efficient infrastructure people tend to use it. Cycling in EUrope in cities like Copenhagen and Amsterdam is so enjoyable because cycling is often quicker than using any other mode of transport. The dutch have a great way of designing cities.

  • @jjneoh4558
    @jjneoh4558 3 роки тому +3

    IMO the pedestrian should discourage from using any gadgets and putting on a earphones/headphones when walking on the share path. A summon should be given to this errant pedestrians, same goes to cyclists.

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому +1

      U think they care about it. No use. Cuz many to common sense. I see slot already.

  • @thinkingallowed5365
    @thinkingallowed5365 3 роки тому +1

    What problem?? The Highway Code for motorists are there, the traffic rules for bicyclists are there.
    The problem is LACK OF CONSISTENT AND REGULAR ENFORCEMENT by LTA and TP!!! They themselves don't even believe that these rules are vital for the safety of all road users!!! And it has become a sickness now!!!

  • @eugenekuacheemeng
    @eugenekuacheemeng Рік тому +1

    this documentary polishes apple for the powerful and rich. Car-lite society needs supporting infrastructure for other green transport options and restrict those private vehicle trips. It's arrogant to blame cyclist, pedestrians but not the car-centric infrastructure that benefits only those who can afford to drive.

  • @cvpiguy
    @cvpiguy 8 днів тому

    17:41 lol he riding on aero bars instead of hoods 😂

  • @nieltan1104
    @nieltan1104 3 роки тому +1

    As a cyclist, am feel dangerous to be on the road. I just don't see a single cycling path in my area. LTA, Kindly do something about it.

  • @jianyutan8017
    @jianyutan8017 3 роки тому +5

    Too keep it simple just put cycling routes all over sg

  • @owenchuarbx
    @owenchuarbx 3 роки тому +2

    I did not agree with the licencing part on Mr Bike Guru. But I hope that licencing doesn't come to fruition as it may only lead to a undesired effects which will see the decline of the hobby. Infrastructure changes and redesigns are the way forward, but with an updated code that is not bog-standard and actually benefits cycling as a viable mode of long distance transport.

  • @ivantoh9001
    @ivantoh9001 3 роки тому +4

    License is so silly . Next time walking also need license.

    • @noproblematallmate
      @noproblematallmate 3 роки тому

      No licence, no age limit and no speed limit. Means we can start a CCA for Primary School kids to cycle on roads with training wheels?

  • @seigonsword7022
    @seigonsword7022 3 роки тому +2

    They should make bike lane

  • @seanliu2411
    @seanliu2411 3 роки тому +2

    It is also important to differentiate between a commuter and a person who cycles to exercise. If you want a car-lite society, you need to encourage and have infrastructures for bicycle commuters not weekend racers.

    • @aaronw5938
      @aaronw5938 3 роки тому

      Should we have different roads to differentiate a driver who drives for work purpose vs someone who drives for leisure?

    • @seanliu2411
      @seanliu2411 3 роки тому

      @@aaronw5938 nope. But for cyclists, the cycling behaviour is different. That’s how the Dutch do it. So the commuters don’t have to wear helmets because they are cycling at lower speeds.

    • @seanliu2411
      @seanliu2411 3 роки тому

      And also for cars the safety mechanism is the same regardless of your driving style. For cyclists, just like you don’t expect normal commuter motorcyclists to wear body armour and body airbag like those in moto gp, commuter cyclists should not be lumped together with sports cyclists.

    • @aaronw5938
      @aaronw5938 3 роки тому

      @@seanliu2411 To wear a helmet or not does not rely on high speed or low speed. The sitting position of the rider matters, the type of bike matters, the average speed of the lane matters.
      In SG, a significant amount of injuries are during low speed events (slipping over drain covers, uneven pavements, etc)
      Having good commuting infrastructure is definitely a good thing but what we've seen here is the G prefers to use a one size fits all approach, and this is why you get all this conflicts on the pavements and PCN.

    • @aaronw5938
      @aaronw5938 3 роки тому +1

      @@seanliu2411 Can a sport cyclist not be a commuter on a weekday? Can a commuter not be a sport cyclist on a weekend?
      I do understand the need for infrastructure to protect the vulnerable group, like kids, elderly etc. I also do feel that there should be some segregation between this group and perhaps others that travel in much higher speeds.
      If we take a look at the G's experiment at TMCR, a PCN runs along side the on road cycling lane. Would that be the ideal scenario to segregate these different groups?

  • @ckleong5689
    @ckleong5689 10 місяців тому

    I am a senior citizen of 85 yrs.
    During my school days, I needed to pay for a licence plate for my bicycle.
    Why is there no need to licence a bicycle on d road especially nowadays current bicycles can travel i high speed.
    Many years ago, my wife was hitted by a cyclist from behind while she was walkina alone a foot pathway. Few hours later, a doctor called an ambulance to sent her to SGH Emergency Dept. She underwent an urgent operation for a ruptured spleen spleen.
    I strongly feel all cyclists must be licenced wlth 3rd party insurance cover.

  • @yukko_parra
    @yukko_parra Рік тому +1

    When the Like/Dislike Ratio is 68% (594 likes to 190 dislikes), there is a reason why.
    This video fundamentally misunderstood the real end users of the bike, creating safety solutions that aren't adequete.
    The envisioned cyclist CNA have here are one of young male athletes, such as sports riders and young delivery riders, whom are described as being young and arrogant, hence adding licensing and road theory testing could be a safety solution. Yet no attention was given to the numerous parents and kids cycling around, no word was mentioned of them, and no mention of Rai's feelings when cycling were mentioned other than his initial reaction.
    CNA assumed that the current demographic was on these young male athletes, but the real demographic is everyday users who want another tool to get around town.
    We don't design highways to be Formula 1 Racecourses because the vocal minority are racing enthusiasts, we design highways for the everyday person to comfortably drive cross city trips on. Yet the cycling infrastructure provided today and in the plans looks terrible and unsafe to ride on, so no everyday person would consider riding them just to access the shops a little faster. Just as a car is a tool for mobility for long distances, the bike is a tool for mobility for short distances, that could be used for sport, just like how a car could be used for racing.
    It's a shame the footage was not analysed with a different lens, and I did wish Rai just cycled for a week to work, to see what he would want in the perspective of a cyclist.
    It really changes your perspective. #ThursdayCycles

  • @5688gamble
    @5688gamble 8 місяців тому

    Thing about signalling on a bike is that bikes do not have indicators. In order to signal I have to remove one of my hands from the bars, this reduces my control over steering and braking. I typically try to signal before initiating a turn, although when I am making a turn I want maximum control, motorists get quite upset because apparently they are too stupid to look for other clues and require a flashing light or outstretched arm to tell them what to do. Depending on traffic conditions it isn't always feasible to signal every lane change, especially if you are filtering through traffic - does the motorcyclist apply an indicator every time he goes to split a lane while chasing down the cyclist? If I get hit by a car, will a helmet really substantially improve the outcome of a crash? It does restrict your ability to move your head and reduce your visibility, most bikes do not have mirrors either, a problem you don't encounter on a motorbike!
    In order to still not feel safe on my bike I have had to attach mirrors, attach a horn and probably going to want indicators too- I have a bright front light already and an HUD for my e-bike, as well as the controls for that, brakes and the shifter! I just wanted a simple way to get around, now my cockpit looks like that of a jumbo jet! Just so I can deal with cars! No shits were given designing infrastructure! You know the Dutch have an extremely low incidence of head injuries This is in spite of the fact that everybody cycles and nobody wears a helmet! Why do you think that is?

  • @reddragon2k6
    @reddragon2k6 Рік тому

    Surprisingly, the government leaves the comments section on. This is where the dissent pours in, and y'all have some great points...

  • @Protoman888
    @Protoman888 3 роки тому

    According to my friends on Strava, cycling is actually quite common in Singapore... they are doing laps around the place almost every day.

  • @zhen86
    @zhen86 3 роки тому +2

    What is errant cyclists ? Is grab delivery cyclist a errant cyclist?

  • @lazyguycooks6244
    @lazyguycooks6244 3 роки тому +1

    If everyone are disciplined , cycling is possible & safe. The problem with some part in Asia could be behavior and discipline, both road users and cyclist. So many encounters of cyclist hogging the roads or reckless vehicle drivers endangering cyclist. It’s never ending until a change in attitude happen….

  • @kidShibuya
    @kidShibuya 2 роки тому +1

    This is the reason I didnt move to Singapore. I like to cycle, so you aren't getting my taxes or my disposable income.

  • @kugul1683
    @kugul1683 3 роки тому +2

    The YT-channel Tesiewdai has responded...

  • @kchia2853
    @kchia2853 3 роки тому +2

    I use proper signal when i need to change lanes but the drivers dont care and still drove past me like it doesn't matter. I've seen many irresponsible driver, most the times is the driver never give signal when changing lanes. Speed up and rush through traffic. Never slow down when nearing the zebra crossing which hit my friend who ended up in the hospital. Yes, i will not over look the fact that there are irresponsible cyclist. But honestly, be open minded. Drivers and motocyclist are as irresponsible as well. There are lots of video that shown and proof that drivers causes more road accident compared to cyclist and motocyclist. Dont believe me? Go find out

    • @kchia2853
      @kchia2853 3 роки тому +2

      If everyone is opened mind and willing to give way for one another (instead of hating each other). The road will be a lot more safer.

    • @patricklee2738
      @patricklee2738 3 роки тому +1

      @@kchia2853 tat true. Don't worry, they will say never pay rd tax cannot use the rd.

  • @ivan1196
    @ivan1196 2 роки тому

    They speed through the bus stop which is directly in the space of the footpath . No consideration for safety at all. And they expect people to get out of the way. Those alighting from the bus have narrow misses

  • @mediataal
    @mediataal 3 роки тому +1

    Not very objective video. Simply ignoring All profits if you have good infrastructure for bikes and cars. More bikes - less cars. Less cars is less polution, less noise, better en environment etcetera

  • @alexquek4923
    @alexquek4923 3 роки тому +1

    License equal to safety? How naive? In Singapore there is no safety for bicycle ride, unless in park. They are not suitable for road. So many riding in the middle of road. If any vehicle hit them who is at fault?

  • @monsterkeith06
    @monsterkeith06 3 роки тому +1

    there was once, I ring my bell but the uncle still refuse to move 1 side I ringed again but he still stand in the middle hands wide apart. So I just squeezed past his right and gave him a stare and to my surprise he stared back. Lucky I wasnt in the mood that day if not he would be in deep sh*t

  • @vernon7552
    @vernon7552 2 роки тому

    What la... When cycling slower on foot path.. people using phone don't even look at where there are walking. Everyone should just open their eyes and be fully aware. Not just cycling or walk blindly.

  • @Jz31000
    @Jz31000 3 роки тому +1

    Pedestrians getting hit by cyclist on footpaths is really no joke, especially if the victim is a child. Enforce bicycle use on main roads!

  • @kenghonglee124
    @kenghonglee124 2 роки тому

    infront of interview, they comply to all traffic rules.. but when no interview, will they comply... hahahaha..

  • @livinonmybike3424
    @livinonmybike3424 3 роки тому

    As a 24/7 cyclist here in the great land of OZ, the most important things you take with you on the road is commonsense(ie: take the attitude that you are a BOTTOM FEEDER in pool of PIRANHA'S in other words don't make ripples, stick to the left/right depending on country, where you can) a good mirror is an absolute must! ( I have 5 bikes and they all have mirrors) good brakes, good ears ( get to a stage where one can determine the position of the vehicle on the road just by the sound it makes) and a good light set, this comes under commonsense , if the lane doesn't permit it, don't ride two abreast! allways take a spare tube and patch kit/pump with you, that's it.( Helmets optional depending where you are.) happy cycling.

  • @ChirpyChat
    @ChirpyChat 3 роки тому +7

    Informative and entertaining video. I feel sorry for cyclists. "When you're not in a car...you feel very naked." LOL!!!! How true!

  • @2710cruiser
    @2710cruiser 2 роки тому

    Simple. Build proper infrastructure. With proper infrastructure comes safe cycling. Look at Netherlands.

  • @apair4002
    @apair4002 3 роки тому

    It is all about hazard and risk.
    Cyclist alone are not hazard but when they go to motorist road, motor vehicle can be dangerous to cyclist.
    The best solution is going through Hazard Control Hierarchy.
    The lowest and cheapest in hazard control hierarcy is:
    Wearing PPE. The cheapest solution, when it fail,
    Go to Administrative Controls. Introduce fine, awareness campaign, signboard, regulation, etc. When it fail,
    Go to Engineering Controls. I am always love this solution but with higher cost. Road for cyclist, build barrier, etc.
    Imho, cyclist can not ride along together with motorist because speed different and cyclist vulnerability. Engineering and Administrative controls is the best solution to prevent cyclist from hazard. Wearing PPE and safety devices is a must for cyclist. Build barrier or dedicated road for cyclist.

  • @mikakayden4154
    @mikakayden4154 Рік тому +1

    Wow.I never knew this😮

  • @katieismobile8898
    @katieismobile8898 3 роки тому +1

    I have always believed that speed needs to be considered in this as well. Fast bikes on the road (like those in a hurry delivering food orders) and slow riders on the walk way. But I am in Canada in a city where walkways are not that busy...... In areas of busy walk ways bikes need their own lane. Here only motorcyclists seem to weave in and out of traffic .. so people hate them. When I used to have to ride a bicycle to work (had no car yet) I had to take a road that had NO walk way and no bike lane and big rig trucks used the same lane and it was a single lane both ways (so 2 lanes total). I had to get to work somehow but felt in danger as I drove and was scared.

  • @fun4epes
    @fun4epes 3 роки тому +8

    Again a video against Cyclists, If you don't adapt the road or motorist mentality, you'll always see cyclists as an issue.

  • @arissanoh7126
    @arissanoh7126 3 роки тому

    thank you for this video!

  • @pantster9855
    @pantster9855 3 роки тому

    As a regular overseas visitor who cycles in Singapore every month (prior to Covid) with decades of cycling experience and someone who studied Singapore cycling rules I also don’t think licensing is a good idea (evidenced by the fact it’s not done anywhere else)
    My experience with Singapore drivers - they are far more considerate than many countries BUT there’s so many rules in Singapore that they would rather close pass you than change lane for fear of breaking some rule. I have had multiple close passes on multi lane roads when there are no other cars for some distance

  • @reyogalino1225
    @reyogalino1225 3 роки тому

    my take on this issue are:
    ● your on 2 wheels no point to challenge 4 wheel vehicles
    ●always lean on the side of safety for yourself and your bike (i.e. helmets, lights are a must.
    ●think safety

  • @shanabenjamin8945
    @shanabenjamin8945 2 роки тому

    Man as a cycling there Is no place for cyclist on the road! Traffic will chew you up and spit you out!!

  • @Mourik131
    @Mourik131 2 місяці тому

    Im from the Netherlands just copy our cycling lanes. They work very well.

  • @Lainlein
    @Lainlein 3 роки тому

    As a German I find it a bit baffling that there is so much about a cycling test. We have a "test" in 3rd grade elementary school when we learn all the rules and road signs but it doesn't actually matter if we pass or fail as cycling is permitted to everyone (for younger children only on the sidewalk, though). Unfortunately, we have a bad infrastructure - unlike the Netherlands, but I believe our cyclists are still more rule-abiding. I believe the issue cannot be solved with too much formalism, but with better bicycle infrastructure, teaching children at school and letting them bike from an early age. When the infrastucture separates cyclists from motorists, children can learn to cycle safely early on!

  • @rogersim40
    @rogersim40 2 роки тому

    Cyclists should follow pedestrians crossings at junctions. Safer that way. And always keep to the left when on roads.

  • @samesamebutdifferent563
    @samesamebutdifferent563 3 роки тому +1

    3:40 bicycles not supposed to be in underpass tunnels.

    • @Rob_33
      @Rob_33 3 роки тому

      not quite correct but the tunnels are banned.

  • @MsHantubelau
    @MsHantubelau 3 роки тому

    I drive around bicycles and cycling around cars and trucks. The key is: respect each other. When I am cycling slow and kind of blocking traffic I would deliberately on the sides so I wont block them. And the truck drivers and car drivers here also respect me, at least most of them and will going a little bit careful when I am around. So its all about win win situation. We wont block people in the road and they would pay attention to us when we were around {btw I live in a relatively small town in Indonesia, so I would not be able to tell how cyclist and other road users in big cities like Jakarta)

  • @nett6051
    @nett6051 Рік тому

    Another Singaporean youtuber tehsiewdai highlight the cycling issue much better in favour of cyclists. His video reminded me of Not Just Bikes
    If the video like above is made by someone who is not a cyclist, it is hard for them to emphatize on what can be improved for cyclists

  • @rinky_dinky
    @rinky_dinky 3 роки тому

    0:47 "recently we've received an email from a viewer"
    me sipping coffee... WOI read it la , don't print it!