Why Singapore's Cycling Laws Don't Make Any Sense | Singapore Explained
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- Corrections: 1:07 UPDATE: The Land Transport Authority (LTA), addressing the first scenario in this video (making a right turn in a straight/right turn lane), referred us to the theory test handbook for Power-Assisted Bicycle (PAB) users, which states that Option B is the recommended option.
LTA also shared a guide for cyclists and motorists, titled “Navigating Traffic Scenarios Safely” (go.gov.sg/onroadhandbook). It recommends Option D as an alternative to Option B.
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Lets admit it, cycling is never in the plan of Singapore traffic
On the east side no. On the west side yes. The west severely lacks cycling park connectors when compared to the east. It's ridiculoius. For as long as the govt continues to build more cycling paths in the east and neglect the west, road cycling is not going to subside.
Agree living in the west is awful for cycling. I don’t even dare to ride on the roads.
Our roads aren’t designed with cyclists in mind. LTA should seriously study Amsterdam’s model if we seriously wanna go car-lite, bicycle heavy.
Totally agree. However, if we really want to study and implement Amsterdam's model, that would mean that Singapore's government would need to spend more money for dedicated cycling lanes on the road. Yes, it is possible for the government to spend that money but this project is going to take time.
Amsterdam cyclist and driver are very considerate to each other. Cyclist giving hand signal with the intention to turn while the driver there driving patiently behind and ensuring enough space for cyclist. They also have the habit of slowing down ensuring the safety of all pedestrian upon reaching a junction. Their heavy vehicle appear early morning when everyone is sleeping and shop are closed. Their buses does not pile up in a single file unlike Singapore.
Singapore road is tough, u may cross paths with a number of buses if u cycle on the extreme left depending on the road . It can be deadly cos the cyclist view is completely blocked, that cyclist require a lot of effort to keep a safe distance from the bus if he decided to switch lane. Which taking into consideration the oncoming vehicle from the next lane can see you. There is no way to cycle safely on a busy road unless u can go fast, take the PCN or the cycling path.
We had widen the pedestrian lane to pedestrian cum cyclist lane in Bt Panjang. It is a total waste of tax payer money. No cyclist use it at all. Imagine the number of accident and complaints reported to Bt Panjang TC that they had to widen the pedestrian lane. Yet, cyclist still prefer to ride on the non widen lanes ( eg, to and from Fajar) or on the roads( eg to and from Bangkit)
That is why I don't agree that our roads are not cyclist friendly. Singapore government just refuse to amend and adjust the law, with the very first priority of licensing
bicycle. By doing that, you can then pinpoint when accident happen be it to pedestrian or car driver or the cyclist himself. If cyclist will to use the road, pay road tax.
Please don't say that it is expensive then to cycle in Singapore.
Remember that before Holland Amsterdam decided that bicycle was a mode of transportation, it is a hobby and an expensive one.
Our weather is not suitable to cycle for commute. So it’s not even a debate. It will be building infrastructure for a very limited users that will never grow in size.
London used to be non-cyclist friendly, but unlike Singapore they did attempt to reverse that by introducing Cycleways alongside existing roads
We need to get those who implement any rules to test it out themselves first. A lot of rules are weird in Singapore.
Arm chair legislators, what to do
you are right. and also ask the ministers who implement rules like 'after eat must return tray and clean table to avoid a fine' to clear their own plate and tray in high class restorans and 5star hotels bcoz that are where they and their family and friends eat
When laws are higher than common sense.
They are meant as loopholes to protect the elite just in case their darling children are involved.
yes, ministers and MPs with no common sense
When I drive, I be considerate to cyclists. When I cycle, I be considerate to drivers. That’s all I can do as a road user.
That's the problem. You drive and cycle so you understand both point of view .... I ride motorbike, cycling, use public transport and drive only in the weekend depending on what is the most efficient .. Most of this cyclists don't or they just cycling for hobby that's why they developed this elitism. They think all driver drive to hunt down and kill cyclists, and they will save the planet by cycling.....
We want dedicated bikeline, we want no helmet law, we want free parking in apartments, we want free valet parking, we want free bike lock rental from business. And soon on....
If only there are more people like you. Many Singapore drivers are already so impatient and mean to each other on the roads, it's harder to expect them to be considerate to cyclists. Some cyclists also problematic, spent more than 10 to 20k on their road bikes and think they owned the road already.
@@neggsilver it is not that ever times the drivers is in a rush. They just somehow lost focus momentarily or misjudged the situations. Many a times cyclist doesn’t installed light at the back. I had in the past almost hit some cyclists luckily at the very last second I saw them otherwise I would have cause them serious injury, or even dead. It’s all up to you to decide and you can have mountain of reasons backing up the reason why you feel it is alright to ride on the road.
When I cycle on the road, I would normally keep to the extreme left of the road, such that the road wheels almost touch the kerbs, trying to be considerate to other road users. When I drive on the road, I would normally try to keep 1.5m distance apart when overtaking the cyclist as I understand cyclists might feel intimidated with cars driving too close for comfort. Let's all be patient and tolerant towards one another as a road user. Having said that, when overtaking, please turn on your signal indicator as I noticed far too often some drivers just don't have the habit of turning on signal indicators when changing lane or turning. Signal for others so that drivers or cyclists know where you are going and your intention. That's how accidents happen, when drivers don't signal or drive too fast (can't stop in time) and cause accidents.
Do not cycle so close to the edge or you’ll have nowhere to move to if you need to
When I was young, I cycled about 10 km to school. I never occupied the center of roads and always kept as far left as possible because I did not want to inconvenient car users with my slow speed. If I needed to turn right I would disembark, wait and push my bicycle across pedestrian traffic junctions. No issues. It is a matter of consideration for other road users. Most importantly, everyone can reach home safely.
LKY makes sense
LHL makes
You are good person whom are thoughtful and kind hearted , I wish you safe and healthy. ❤
Ya but then like the problem in the video have mentioned what happens when there is no pesdestrian traffic junctions...I mean I was thinking maybe if they kept left on the right most turning lane and continue keeping left when turning.
@e_s.g.s.p1251 and also those drivers who complain that cyclist choose to go pedestrain whenever we feel like 😭
plus bicycles then had mirrors & registration plates.
Yes in singapore its really not worth cycling....until the day i see dedicated cycling lanes adjacent to the road. Will i consider switching. I cycle on the pavement kanna scolded, riding on road also kanna scolded..... from a ex cycle commuter in holland, australia. Now a motorist in sg.
You cycle in Australia and drive in Singapore? What an odd choice...
@@anubizz3 If I had to choose between Australia and Singapore, or anywhere in SEA for that matter, I'd still pick Australia. Sydney isn't perfect, the roads aren't designed for cyclist safety in mind, but in most places at least pedestrians aren't fighting with cyclists for space and drivers in Australia are actually more courteous than Singaporeans Citizens and PRs who are more often than not, more than happy to kill you for shits and giggles if they don't get caught.
@@ReizePrimus Too much traffic fines in Australia. In school zones and school timing, it's strictly 40km/hr else fines + demerit points. Double demerits and double fines (800 ish) for public holidays and long weekends. In Singapore, I seldom see any TP nor any drivers respecting the stop sign or speed limit. Enforcement is the problem in SG. Almost non existent.
This kind of reporting is useful to our daily life. Thank you Mothership.
This is an excellent video which captures two (of many) possible pain points about cyclists on roads. Thank you for the legal references too. And in the end, yes, we all just need to be more considerate. Kudos!
I love it that Mothership got Nigel to narrate. I love his articulation! well spoken, well put and easy to understand!
Do you know his IG/Tiktok acc?
I recall once during the peak hour when a cyclist was riding on the road, while all the buses behind him did not overtake him for safety reasons. The speed dropped to about 10km/h. This went on for at least 20 minutes. Imagine dozens of bus passengers getting late for work, because of that one cyclist who was hogging up the entire road.
"On the other hand, cyclists say that drivers need to be more careful and considerate and stop being so entitled!" - To be fair, drivers actually pay for a Certificate of ENTITLEMENT HAHA
Oh shit. No wonder lor. They paid to be entitled.😅
they also pay road tax
Lol
Ba dum tsssss
Well wait until you watch the shifters, this cyclists demand
-no helmet law
-minimum free secure bike rack in every apartment
-free lock rental from business
-free bike valet parking in shopping centre
-dedicated bikeline with priority over pedestrian and public transport.
Now I wonder who is the one that entitled.
In my previous job, I cycled to work everyday for 8km. Always on the pedestrian walk because one puncture tyre on the road, I could end up in hospital.
I had mine punctured before I changed to schwalbe. When it is punctured it lowers your max speed, doesn't mean totally cannot cycle.
Agreed. Well said. Stay safe and always keep safe.
I wonder why puncture tyre = hospital?
Once I was keeping left while cycling only to realise that my lane leads to an express way. I was caught in a situation where I could not make a sudden lane shift to keep to the road and realised I had to make a sudden stop at the left road shoulder and find another way out of that mess.... oh yes and the right turn scenarios are still scary sometimes....
i am a grabfood rider.. you are correct with all the scenarios.. when its safe.. i will "siam/stop to one side, let buses passed".. because they must also try to keep left and its not always safe for them to overtake my poor little bike..
most drivers are nice, they try their best to give way to cyclist.. thanks very much.. but of cos we do have those "yaya papaya" type who purposely drift to the left forcing me to stop..
well.. big junctions i will cross by the pedestrian lane.. if no traffic light lane.. i will go straight to the next one and make sorta a U Turn..
when driving, if no U Turn, go straight to the next one.. i am a driver too..
Singapore needs dedicated cycling lanes on the road.
Missed opportunity to talk about infrastructure improvement, which provides a lot more positive externalities than the obvious. When every driver is also a cyclist (because the infrastructure encourages it), they would naturally drive more safely when sharing the road with their peers.
And unsurprisingly, there are already entitled individuals saying cyclist shouldn't be on the road cuz they don't pay road tax. *roll eyes*
It’s not just road tax, you have no insurance in the event you cause an accident etc…also why should we use public funds for your hobby? What so great about it anyways? And can such major changes be justified as a public good where only such a small minority partakes in it ?
@@ryantan1022 that's why In Netherlands, they have bike roads and bike expressways all over the country. Cyclists should not be sharing the same road as both are traveling at different speeds. The weight are also a huge difference
Actually, a country that have a complete bike infrastructure could help improve local small businesses too. Bicycles take up a lot lesser space, thus increasing foot traffic to each individual businesses too. With a complete bike infrastructure also encourages more people to walk around as most bike infrastructures are also quite safe to walk too. This in turn increases overall foot traffic too thus increasing sales for local businesses too. Plus it's so much quieter to cycle as compared driving, making the whole neighborhood and city more peaceful and quiet
Better that cyclists don't need to pay road tax to cycle on the road. Imagine the counter argument, I pay road tax so I own the road. The motorists who kpkb will be owned!
@@DarkPa1adin damn, someone actually realised the flaw of the “cyclists don’t pay road tax” argument lol
I feel there's no roads the cycles and pedestrian in Singapore and Malaysia due ti old school British road design. However, these people should have the same rights to use public roads as automobiles
Considering how small and how quite flat Singapore is... it is like the perfect place to have decent bike infrastructure. Just mimic the Netherlands and it would work wonders. It requires little effort even imo.
Quite the disappointment I had in Singapore, considering how expensive cars are yet large roads everywhere...
I think you forgot about land.. Sg is so small unlike europe they have huge land to make dedicated cyclings paths everywhere
even if u consider land, wont it be an even more waste of land if u give the minority many large lanes? besides u dont need to create new space just for bikes, u just have to take space away from cars instead like what amsterdam does. Even if right now cycling is not popular, it will be much more popular if u make cycling journeys comfortable and convenient and combined with how many people can use bike infrastructure (children on bikes, elderly on pma, etc) it will make the space that will be taken over to be much more well used. This allows others to have more options of travel, whether its to school or mrt station, which can reduce car dependency and last mile/feeder bus reliance.
ive been cycling on singapore roads since 2015. ive only been in 2 car accidents: 1 taxi driver beating the red light and 1 early 20s year old driver going fast not looking while merging into a main road. none of these accidents were major. cycling in singapore is relatively safe and part of being a responsible cyclist is getting to know the roads and safest routes on your commute and/or workout. if you are lost and its the first time in an area, always take the SAFEST option no matter how inconvenient you may think it is at the moment. be respectful on the road and the only person you can trust to keep you safe out there is yourself.
Yes, i agree that the road is relatively safe when everyone simply follows the rule. Yet, when one driver violates it, cyclists are the most vulnerable among all. It doesn't matter how good we are as cyclists following the rules, it takes just one single crazy driver on the road to harm or get us killed for nothing. It's that simple. Therefore, for me and for my best safety, by all means stay away from the road. I think that's the best advice I could give to other cyclists for our best safety.
Only 2 accidents? Even just one accident can cause serious injury or even death.
@@hbtan9841 exactly.
@@hbtan9841 yup you are totally correct. my worst accident? i was out running and there was a group of people crowding a sidewalk. i ran on the grass to go around them and fell in a ditch. i went to the hospital for that. funny enough that a sport which seems as safe as running got me into my worst accident. running, cycling, basketball, football unfortunately all sports have their risks.
3rd accident you wouldn't be posting here.
All these happen because Singapore has become a car centric nation, where traffic rules are more beneficial to drivers than padestsrians and cyclist. In Netherlands, they do have bike roads amd bile expressway, where the cyclist do have a road of their own. Bicycles and cars shpuld not ne sharing the same road as both ate 2 different apeeds and weight
I like the idea of Banning cars in Singapore, we would need to increase buses even though the trains are good albeit a bit packed in peak hours (smaller trains off peak?), Would need a few more shelters on the road as the rain does become a problem, also would need to mandate public showers or could be beneficial to companies to fit showers at the work place and maybe an express laundry service that's a few bucks for those bike riders, would be radical and really green!
@@Nihaopaul not gonna happen,bro. Our government earn millions of dollars from COE every year. That's why our traffic rules mostly favour to drivers instead of padestsrians and cyclists. Parking fees as well. Our government doesn't make money from cyclists and e-scooter riders, that's why the cycling culture is not strong. Our bike infrastructure is also not complete
That's too simple minded. Bulk of the traffic now is commercial vehicles transporting your parcels, your workers building the BTO, delivering goods to the supermarket etc, and of course those dangerous PHVs and blurr sotong hourly rental cars.
@@nnnnn8173 if the government really desperately want to reduce vehicles, try removing all multi storey and underground carparks and repurpose these spaces for other community usage instead and only keep those limited open space carparks. Once these are replaced, all drivers will rethink whether they must and can't live without a private vehicle given the limited open space carparks. This just shows that our government is benefiting greatly from COE and parking fees. Another way to reduce vehicles is limiting the number of vehicles to be imported every month.
@@Nihaopaul yah make sure you pick up your goods at dock, and don't just click on delivery button because if you not aware mostlikely it deliver by a car.... Singapore have one of the best public transport already my wife family never own a car and don't have a reason to own one.
Singapore have 149 car per 1000 people while the utopian Netherlands have 588 car per 1000.....
When there is no proper biking infrastructure, that's the issue and the government is to blame.
I told my children, always refer to Law of Mother Nature BEFORE even thinking of Law of Singapore...
I’ve never found turning right difficult but that said I have many years experience in traffic and can understand inexperienced riders could be potentially intimidated by cars. Basically signal with your hand in advance of the turn and when safe to do so filter to the right. Keep more to the left of the right turning lane and if time to do so filter through and position yourself in front but to the left of the car wishing to turn right. From this position all the cars wanting to turn right can see you (very important) and you are in the right turning lane far enough such that vehicles driving straight are not going to hit you. When the light goes green to turn right just take a wider turn than the car behind and that leaves room for them to pass easily and it also gets you nearer the left side of the road you are entering. I drive a car, motorcycle and bicycle and I dont see any issue in sharing the road safely
as a cyclist and driver i feel that the road in singapore is not practical for cyclist to be using at ALL TIMES
Many cyclists, and car drivers, behave very poorly in traffic, and/or don't stick to the traffic rules. As a cyclist you need to take 100% responsibility and follow the rules completely, and actively use all the signals etc. I do this, and I've never had 1 problem with a car while cycling in Singapore in many years. Part of the reason might be that I've been cycling for my whole life, and am very comfortable in traffic and following traffic flows, rules, and seeing the dangers.
Exactly. I'm also wondering when Singapore will be cycling friendly. Some pedestrians even don't know that they have to keep left at all times.
LTA and ministry of transportation especially the minister stop paying attention on MRT and open your eyes and see this video.. wake up your bloody mind and that goes to the lazy useless TP too !
Car lite initiative is a half-baked effort.
Turn out minister is corrupt and doesn't care.
Is there a reason why our law makers aren't following countries who implemented the cycling path (eg: Denmark). In Denmark, cyclists have to cycle on the cycling path if it is available to them. If the cycling path is not available, cyclists can use the road and need to keep to the extreme right (due to Denmark road direction). Cyclists must use the pedestrian crossing to cross the road. Cannot make a turn like a normal motorist. There is a fine for turning like a normal motorist. There are hand signals to indicate cyclists intention from turning right or left, slowing down, and stopping. I believe this could make the road safer for everyone.
Denmark has dedicated cycling paths along side roads. Singapore have bike lanes that are just pavements shared between pedestrians and cyclist. I don't think there is political will to implement European style bike policies (or policies that stop prioritizing vehicles over pedestrians for that matter), despite all the talk about going car lite.
In Denmark (very much unlike SG) infrastructure is designed and built around the convenience of cyclists. I'd be over the moon if SG could even hold a candle to DK, but it doesn't.
Not all places in Denmark have cyclist lanes. Therefore, cyclists are allowed to share the motorist road. Dont get me wrong, I am fine with cyclists on the road. My concern is the safety of the cyclists when they want to turn right. Why dont they use the pedestrian crossing to cross the road?
@@NetElyod That's a common lie used by drivers to justify bigoted beliefs. "I'm just so concerned about cyclist safety".
Why don't they use pedestrian crossings? Well why should they chose a slower route? Why don't you get out of your car and push it round corners? Why do you exceed 30kmh? We can't build society around ensuring drivers are minimally inconvenienced and everyone else should bow to them.
@@lukeh3020 like the lie cyclists often say they care about pedestrians and public transport?
Because (1) bicycle is fundamentally different from autos. This dude is simulating scenarios with the unrealistic assumption that both vehicle types have similar speed and acceleration capabilities. Just take highways during peak hour as an example. All you need is one vehicle to slow down/stop to create a massive jam to the traffic behind. Imagine the amount of jam with cyclists riding in the middle of the main road at 5/10 km/h speed. Besides, bicycles are extremely slow and other vehicles have to slow down more than expected to provide more safety distance from them. Plus, cyclists are slow to react or drive out of dangers way. (2) Singapore roads are too narrow to accommodate cyclists. Imagine a cyclist maneuvering between two/one heavy vehicles on the road.
so what? space can be made for cyclists, it's a matter of political will
@@raphaelcaceres9129 Spend tax money for this? No thank you lolll. Just cycle slower and more carefully on walkways la.
@@jamesl2590 actually yes. Because roads cost a lot, cycle lanes a lot less. And why don't you drive slower since you're far more dangerous than a cyclist?
The keyword is "practicable". Meaning if want to turn right, of course, it's not practical to be on the left or middle lane. In that case, it is fine to be on the right. Still abiding by law.
We definitely need more discourse on this. One of the better video on this topic. Good job!
My 2 cents. Most Singapore drivers pay so much to be on the road and our roads are crazy expensive. So of course the sense of entitlement like their Certificate of Entitlement will be sky high.
Yes, be considerate and learn to share. That's the way.
Nigel TOTALLY MISSED Coverage of HUGE Group of RECREATIONAL Cyclist where Most Drivers have A Peeve with
i think everyone needs to be considerate to each other, just be thoughtful. like for example the exit of a flyover, usually when i exit a flyover on my bike, many considerate drivers will slow down and let me go into the left lane. i hope cars will give the 1.5m clearance coz for the cyclists, any small error or potholes, and we fall sideways and our heads can be under ur wheels if youre too close
honestly for the most part as a cyclist i can say 75% of SG drivers are good, 20% are just unaware of what to do and the 5% are cnuts :P
the cycle of frustration and ambiguity will end when someone or some people violently DIE because of a stupid act of road rage. LTA & TP need to correct the ironies in their rule books ASAP!
The pedestrian lanes are so narrow that I fear for mountain bikes all the time when I'm on the lanes. I own 2 types of bikes myself and average speed around 35kmph. There's simply no good option for cyclists in SG. You risk hitting pedestrians on sidewalks, you risk being hit by negligent car drivers on the road. The city legislation is so torn between American car infested city and an Asian capital.
dont cycle on busy roads and be a menace
Cyclist who uses the road should pay roadtax like the rest of us. They should also have a demerit point system like us motorists, that way they wont act like the road is their father’s.
I sent a $50 check to LTA to pay for road tax for my bicycle. It was returned to me.
road tax is for carbon emissions
Cyclist pay their fair taxes the same as any motorist for the construction of road, road tax are just one of the taxes that the government collect and spent on including roads.
The reason why cyclist don't really need to pay extra to use that road are: motorist are paying for the privileged of using more space on the road in ratio of a human, motorist pollute; cyclist don't, cost more infrastructure to build parking spaces and law enforcement equipment to enforce the speed limit
I’m a car driver, motorcyclist and a cyclist so I already pay enough road tax thank you very much. Why not give me refund each time I use my bicycle instead of my car and blocking the street with another car since I’m “entitled” to drive my car?? I think you should also take up cycling it’s good for your health and might go some distance in sorting out your misunderstanding
@@888jucu That could be a good idea to encourage people to cycle more when they already own a vehicle. I agree with you on that, but paying road tax is burden that motorist must take themselves because ure paying a year subscription to use the road as a motorist. You dont complain when a ISP inform you that u have cancel and have not use your their service the whole month, and you should get a pro-rated refund based on that. Its most important for roadtax as well, its the industry standard. But to be honest, this is also quite predatory lah. Your idea is pretty good
To be fair, drivng on the road requires a driving licence and TP test, i guess we can all agree that driving on the road goes beyond being proficient with the equipment at hand. Not to mention following basic traffic rules, as simple as traffic lights, signalling and PPE. Not sure how many Cyclist/ ebikes actually goes through the traffic rules before going onto the roads.
Just to add, i dont think a cyclist PPE is comparable to a motor cyclist PPE and insurance😅 On the other hand, many pedestrians road is not wide enough for pedestrians and cyclists to share the pathway, plus nowadays PMDs are growing in sizes.😂
It is really high time for the PAP government to relook some of the laws and manner of dispensing justice. With so many video evidence around, the authorities continue to drag all the parties involved and dispenses punishment especially fines without even making an effort to look closer into it. How many real Singaporeans have been so badly wronged by the lopsided justice system for the past 60 over years which rules always in favour of pinning criminality instead of addressing who the aggressor and initiator is. How can you blame someone who is simply fending off an attacker or troublemaker and when the police is not on immediate arrival?
Especially after the East Coast Road catfight, this is only the beginning.
Most cyclists I saw on the roads are recreational.
Those that cycle to work, uses cheap slowbikes, and they cycle on the pavement. (Less delivery chaps).
Singapore roads are not catered for these recreational cyclists, and many Singaporeans don't want them.
solution, just make it so that they just stay as close to the sides as possible
On a 2 lane right turn with the left most lane allowing straight or right. The safest way is stay in the right most lane unless a car is stopped in the straight/right lane. At the point a car stops in that lane move over in front of that car. Maybe smile and show hand sign the driver your plans. And as soon as the turn starts stick your left arm out and start moving in a way that will put you on the left most side of the road from the point of entering it.
Otherwise stop and assess the junction to determine the best pedestrian crossing. There will ALWAYS be one nearby. Even if it requires doubling back. Don’t risk your life to safe a few minutes.
The solution will be to make more cycling paths such that cyclists can get anywhere only using designated paths, so they dont endanger motorists nor pedestrians
It’s like this in any western car centric country with urban setting. Car is king until more people demand protected cycling infrastructure separated from traffic or giving up road space for non-vehicular traffic.
Cyclists got to learn from the bikers. Rule number 1 is to protect your own life. Meat wrapping metal -- so you really shouldn't get too cocky about your "rights". If you're dead, it really doesn't matter if you're right or not because you are dead.
Accidentally cycled onto a flyover and got honked, thought I broke the law and stopped at the side and waited for a relative to pick me up... would have kept going if I knew it was legal.
I remember once cycling up Upper Thompson Road I approached a motorist driving slowly in the middle lane because he felt it neccesary to drive alongside the cyclists in the left lane and shout at them for cycling 2 abreast on a 3 lane road at 5am. So I overtook the motorist in the right hand lane, because it was impracticable to use the left or middle lane when they're occupied by slower moving cyclists & mercedes. Despite my actions not obstructing the motorist in any way when he saw that he was being overtaken he went full umbrage, screaming, sounding his horn and rapidly accelerated to stop me from completing the overtakeing manouvre.
It is a shame that there are so many motorists who refuse to share the road and behave with such xenophobic hate towards light and sustainable vehicles being used on the roads.
There is no purpose of telling the problem.. what we need is a solution. Please provide solution and not the problem
The best video I have seen on mothership. Well done.
I can understand the level of 'anger?'/frustration/jealousy when drivers see cyclists ignoring 'road' rules. The issue is some are actually dangerous, but other times it's just that drivers get stuck waiting for red lights for no reason when they could safely go through, or turn on a red light if there's no cars or pedestrians.
Even as a big cyclist (I ride 25,000 a year and drive maybe 10,000 if I'm lucky) I inadvertantly get worked up when I see cyclists blatantly disregarding red lights and have to forcefully tell myself 'who cares as long as they are doing it safely and not inconveniencing anyone'. I don't know why psychologically I think like this. I think because unlike pedestrians that jaywalk, we do expect everyone on the roads to use them the same way. It makes us feel good when we do the right thing when everyone else is. Equality.
I wonder if being more relaxed about 'rules and laws' and treating lights and signs as 'guides' and forcing people to be more considerate of others rather than just follow the rules regardless. Ie sitting at lights in the middle of the night because they are on a timer and no cars are around sucks. Similarly waiting to turn when it would be safe but having to wait 3 miuntes for the lights to change.
Frequently cyclists treat pedestrians in the same way us cyclists hate drivers treating us.
There's also limitations to cycling right. Turning requires holding out your arm, which you can't always do as far back as you'd like to ensure you have control of your bike, especially going up or down hills or around a roundabout.
The bigger issue is road culture. Drivers barely care about other drivers....or even trucks given the stupid shit I see them do cutting in front of trucks etc...and that's with vehicles that could cause them serious harm...so why would they care about cyclist that are just going to bounce off their vehicles.
What should happen is removing safety inside a car. Strip out airbags, collison bars, crumple zones...heck make them out of plastic too. Make them as vunerable as we can so they realise the vunerability of themselves and others. Increase fines and penalities so that if you do something stupid and injure someone there is a multiplier effect on the penalties. Penalities should be very different to normal. So if you are speeding at get a $500 fine but don't hit anyone its $500. If you hit someone it increases to $5000. If they are hospitalised it doubles again to $10,000. Not covered by insurance. These are fines ONTOP of what your insurance would have to pay to cover injuries and property damage.
AND link it to your wage. So the starting fine is a % of your yearly wage. Make it so itt is literally unaffordable to drive like a dick and not be fully responsible for how you drive and aware of the consequences.
if you hit someone with a baseball bat in public you are likely to be criminally charged. The same should occur when you drive a car and there is bodily harm. Arguably same when it's property damage in some cases but we dont need or want people having criminal records for small rear ends or swiping a car in a carpark etc. Injuring a person though can have huge ramifications to that person and people around them for their whole lives and it can cost society a lot of money and time.
People shouldn't feel ' safe' in cars. They should be hyper vigilante.
The same should be true of cyclists that hit pedestrians too.
We all pay for roads. We all deserve to be able to use them safely and properly. And everyone should be respectful on them like they should be anywhere else in society.
Personally, I don’t think the issue lies in the ambiguity of the rules. Even drivers have to decide when to do what to ensure we don’t get into an accident. The issue lies in cyclist’s role on the road. If you’re on the road, follow road rules. Don’t do things like beating red light and switching to pedestrians crossing whenever you feel like it. The issue with this behaviour is no one can predict what cyclists will do. There are plenty of cyclists that follow road rules that I appreciate a lot, and as a driver, I give as much leeway and consideration as possible, but some cyclists just blatantly ignore cars and pedestrians alike and do whatever they want.
I love the diorama used
The biggest problem is not pre planning for island-wide cycling lane from long ago, which causes annoyance and danger to all parties (pedestrians, cyclists, drivers).
cycling rule? dont forget and also ask the ministers (malaysia born grace fool, amy kor) who implement rules like 'after eat must return tray and clean table to avoid a fine' to clear their own plate and tray in high class restorans and 5star hotels bcoz that are where they and their family and friends eat (100 singaporeans are booked so far since recent june 1st NEA catch hawker centres' eaters...)
What about cyclist who do not stop at the red light?
Of course they gonna say driver and motorcycles do to.... But they never mention the statistics.
As a cyclist.don drive on middle road as ,too many risk from main road and highway.any fast motorcycle ,car ,truck ,lorry can easily crush you to death and the speed on 90 -100 kmh can cause big airflow to bicycle.please don't drive on highways
Please do a follow-up on cyclists on public paths. I had dozens of encounters with cyclists bullying pedestrians on public paths
The worst thing is cyclist nowadays don’t bother to ring the bell or they don’t even have a bell. How am I supposed to react in time if you’re 6 feet behind me?
@ have to see if pedestrian is walking on a bike-only PCN.
@@SM-gn8fq yeah I’ve seen those wide footpaths where half is for pedestrian and half is those red tracks for cycling. For some reason people seem to like walking on the cycling lane.
Especially PRCs and Cecas on rent bikes doing deliveries and speeding on footpaths. On the roads, AMK and their Pinkertons cause endless grief to all other road users.
@@SM-gn8fq A lot of neighbourhood footpaths are not bike-only PCN, including mine. The path is so small, the least you could do is ring or call out from a safe distance so I can give way in time. It doesn’t take a lot of effort to do so
The law makers need to review and amend the traffic rules so that it makes sense. Make traffic rules easy to understand, you can't expect everyone to be well educated enough to understand the traffic laws written in the legal way. There are some Uncles and Aunties who don't have very high standard of English education and especially more so when you have to ask them to interpret what the traffic law is saying in lay man terms. If laws are so plain and simple,there wouldn’t be lawyers around to re-interpret the laws in relation to the case being heard in court, in other ways to argue their way against the legal system for their clients.
Hello the customer is never wrong , in this case the Garmen . They just put a few auxiliary police , they say you wrong means you wrong okay , go pay the fine if you don't want to appear in court
Problem is some cyclist got no driving license and when they switch lane did not even bother to check blind spot
This is why cyclists and drivers should never share roads since cycling doesn't need a driving license.
Some drivers never check their blind spots, some (a lot) drivers queue across intersections, some drivers go much faster than the speed limit, some drivers pass too close to cyclists, some drivers (a lot) endanger pedestrians (who should always be number 1 priority) by turning into their crossings to save a few seconds, some drivers run red lights.
Some drivers and some cyclists, (and many delivery moped users) do stupid and dangerous things. So share and be considerate, and be extra considerate that as a driver you are in a large heavy metal box, you will not be hurt in an accident a cyclist surely will.
Also, most cyclists on Singapore roads can easily go 30kph+ , outside of the busiest highways that is hardly that much slower than cars, yet drivers pass us (often too close) all the time to save 20 seconds and usually get caught up at the next light or roundabout... maybe relax a bit and go with the flow.
Driving license doesn't make drivers responsible people. Many still ignore traffic light signals, drive under intoxication, speed, drive recklessly etc. What is necessary is more penalties and heavier punishments for errant drivers.
Maybe, police reward of 50% of fines collected to informer will make better toad users. After all, those who submit incriminating videos of bad driving behaviour are actually helping police immensely to perform their job. Police should reward the informants of dangerous driving to improve road safety for all. But small offences like parking summons don't need rewarding informants because these don't usually endanger lives and have ample foreigners (parking wardens) already hired to investigate these.
I drive and I ride. What I've noticed is that drivers and riders can be egoistic and expect the world to revolve around them.
It's very common in Singapore my friend. Poor peasants always have such problems
It is a Singaporean thing
ya rules dont make sense. the right turn one especially is not cyclist fault. u can see how taiwan forces motorbike to stick to the right(our left) lane, then they face problems when making left(our right) turn. same problems. and they're motored vehicles.
To be fair cycling in Singapore is much safer now than when I first started doing it in the 90s. Back then bus drivers would routinely cut you up whereas now they seem almost too scared to pass you (seems they have been having some tough bus driver etiquette classes). Covid made the bike population explode and with that cars are by and large more aware and more careful so I noticed a significant improvement in safety getting around. That said if you choose to ride at night with no lights and no helmet (Grab anyone) then of course you are posing risk to yourself and others and should be more responsible
bicycles should be banned full stop.
Just look to Melbourne, Australia, on how to make right hand turns from a multi-lane intersection on a bicycle. In Melbourne car drivers can make hook turns in the CBD, but cyclists can make hook turns at any intersection. Saves having to move out of the left lane.
Too bad. Nothing will change becos LTA won’t do anything unless our PM suddenly decides to cycle to work on a daily basis.
Fundamentally, sg roads were NEVER designed with any consideration for bicycle use. It is only recent years that some newer designs incorporate bicycle usage.
To properly fix this, sg will need to overhaul the entire country's road design. And take reference from bicycle friendly countries. Good luck with that in our space constrian city.
space-constrained city is the best reason why car need to be reduced.
The real issue here is why is there always a yellow Porsche following Cygel?
I am a senior citizen of 85 yrs. During my school days I had to pay f a licence plate b4 I can cycle on d roads.
Why are bicycles not licenced n insured for 3rd party injuries?
Many years ago my wife was hitted by a cyclist while she was walking along a pedestrian walkway. She got a ruptured spleen n needed emergency operation at SGH.
For footpaths, it's understandable but it's unlikely that an accident occurs due to the low-speed limit of 10km/h, but on roads? No, cause only drivers kill cyclists so it's mostly the driver's fault anyway and their responsibility.
This is what happens when the gov wants more bicycles and less cars on the road but its officials prefer driving cars themselves.
well nigel, i did a triple viaduct 1 night, lornie, serangoon & west coast. i say again, it was in 1 (ONE) night! Bikes are allowed on the road, but when they "become" pedestrians & decide 2 ride on the sidewalk, then as absurd as it sounds, strictly speaking, they shd ride as slow as the slowest pedestrian walking.. no overtaking. i find that very rude. which is why i almost never ride on the sidewalk!
nah cyclist are worse because they get to choose when to be pedestrians and still refuse to get off their bikes
I cycle a lot in SG, the rules doesn’t say you need to get off the bikes on pavement in traffic lights. They only use the word recommended.
this is why cyclist mix between roads and footpaths/cyclepaths, we determine at which point is the safest and go that route, it may seem inconsiderate but technically no wrong for bicycle to do this
The reason all these are happening is because our bike infrastructure is not complete. One side of the road have cycling path but the opposite doesn't. Cycling paths could end halfway and have to share it with padestsrians and cycle on the normal footpaths. Sometimes, don't understand why there are people that also walk on cycling path too when footpath is right beside them
@@tanalson ikr they die2 wanna walk on cycling path later bang cry mother cry father really knn cb mindset of those people
Yes our infrastructure is incomplete.
However our govt no intention to make bike lanes like the EU, we can only suffer through this kind of silly pavement/pcn network which will just kinda sow discord between cyclist, motorist and pedestrians.
as a Driver, Motorcyclist and Cyclist....
from my viewpoint it's just ego. there are many permutations of what can go wrong.
- Drivers who intentionally go too close to cyclists
- Cyclists (who mostly are drivers also), follow their own driving "rules" instead of following road rules.
- Cyclists who don't give a kaka about other road users
- Drivers who just intentionally give cyclists pressure while they ride on the road.
etc, and the list goes on and on.
don't talk about the Road Traffic Act or the rules and regulations. at most, majority of cyclists follow the keep-left rule, but other than that, the errant cyclists don't even know the rest or even bother about following them, or just being considerate is not in their dictionary. they expect others to look out for them and take care of themselves, instead of paying heed to others.
When cyclist need to pay COE, maybe it will end.
It is given that cyclist are to "stay on the far left as practicable as possible" of the lane relative to where the cyclist is going.
the solution is, install more CCTV on the road.. any car driving or cyclist riding recklessly, will be fined.. didn't Singapore already applied this method right?🤣🤣
I am a cyclist and i go by one rule. My Life is more precious than any rule. right of way is too late when you are bleeding on the ground. Dont be stupid, cyclists! Keep safe
On the turn right scenario, my view is that B (middle of the middle lane) is the correct answer. Cars who want to go straight, go left, want to turn right, keep right or stay in the middle and accept that the cyclist is sharing the road with you and cultivate more patience for a slower and more vulnerable vehicle. Yes, bicycles are vehicles too. Peace.
Cyclists will always find the easiest way. Therefore use Strava Labs to analyse where they can add a dedicated cycle lane shortcut and cycle flyover.
If I'm approaching a big junction and there are cars stopping me from changing lanes, I just take the pedestrian crossing. In the end, it's my life! But if there aren't many cars because its early morning, then whatever works... just use common sense and don't rely on car drivers to brake and save your own lives.
Singapore is nice and flat, very lucky to have many PCNs too. Cycle before you get too old and your bones get pain.
It's illegal to even ride on the footpath if you're in Australia
The word considerate seems to be bias against motorist. If cyclist are being considerate, they should not be on the road with 2 or 3 lanes (inclusive of bus lanes) during peak period as majority of the road users will need to make unnecessary manoeuvre to give way or to give space for them. It's 1 or 2 cyclists against hundreds of road user. So whose being entitled in this scenario? Option D as narrated in the video should not be an option. It should be a default unless there is no crossing at the junction in which MAJORITY of the road do have such crossing. But it was not practice here in Singapore for the safety of cyclists and motorist. The committee that draft out regulations seems to be bias against any behavior that caused inconvenience only to the cyclist. None of the rules seems to make cyclist compromise on their usage of the road.
V simple. Ask the cyclist will be fine? Ask the driver will he be fined? Then after these 2 questions we will have road safety
It's simply a lack of proper cycling infrastructure which makes it unsafe for cyclists and inconvenient for other road users.
No set of rules is perfect, but I think the general principle should be that a cyclist adopts the same postion that a car would when turning or doing anything else on the road. Drivers then know what to expect, in that the cyclist will be doing exactly as a car would do. Drivers should also regard cyclists as taking up exactly the same road space as a car, even though they don't! A bike is about 0.5m wide and if you add the recommended gap when passing a cyclist of 1.5m you get 2m, which is the width of a car.
I agree that Amsterdam has something close to ideal cycle infrastrcuture, but the Dutch had the sense to ensure that cyclists were provided for, when the number of cars on the road rapidly increased in the 1960's. No other country did and therefore almost every country, not just Singapore, is now trying to catch up. It will probably take decades to install that infrastructure in most countries. I thereofore totally agree that cyclists and motorists need to learn to share the road. It's not a problem in Amsterdam, as over 80% of the drivers cycle at least once a week and almost all adult cyclists also drive. Cyclists and motorists are therefore the same group of people. When 80% of Singaporeans ride a bike at least once a week, the cyclist/motorist conflict will have disappeared!
Just add vehicle registration and license plates for bicycles which want to be on the road. Then we talk.
No plates, no responsibility, of course no consideration for other road users. Cannot even claim insurance when there's an accident.
If drivers and cyclists and pedestrians all insist on their rights, there will bechaos.
Courtesy and giving way to others will solve a lot of these problems
This is why I only cycle on roads where I can cycle on pedestrian crossing. Its risky for your own life. Why cycle on roads like lonie? You live only once. The rule isn't going to ensure you life a good old life.
Personally I use the hook turn, which minimises conflict points with drivers but increases conflict points with pedestrians on the Pedestrian path, but to me it is the safest way to turn right
However, I agree drivers can be jerks sometimes, and many laws are quite confusing
they should be cycling in the park ok? we have specific lanes for that. be a mature adult and go to your cycling lane in the park. smh
Perhaps when cyclists starts to pay road taxes then we can start to talk about sharing
Cyclist pay their fair taxes the same as any motorist for the construction of road, road tax are just one of the taxes that the government collect and spent on including roads.
The reason why cyclist don't really need to pay extra to use that road are: motorist are paying for the privileged of using more space on the road in ratio of a human, motorist pollute; cyclist don't, cost more infrastructure to build parking spaces and law enforcement equipment to enforce the speed limit
You can argue all you want. But cycling on the road is for leisure, why would anyone outweighs leisure and business. Not to mention there are already PCN for leisure, cycling on the road is purely for thrill seeking speed thirst individuals. If you really want to exercise, why don’t you use your gear 1 and cycle pcn, slow and strong resistance.
How about those cyclist who appreciate to be able the flexibility of cycling to their destination. Its a mode of transportation right, there's of course the case people who use it to move around. It has the flexibility of motorist of arriving at their desire destination without the pollution, less space consumption(parking space, and price of fuel. Saying that cycling is only for the thrill is so much just a first world perception now.
My two cents:
I see people commenting about how cyclists should be banned from the road ‘cause they don’t pay road tax, or hog the roads or whatever.
The people with these views probably only know cyclists as Lycra-clad daredevils who act like they rule the road. Newsflash: that’s not 99% of cyclists!
I rode a road bike along a main road in SG with my dad once: it’s scary as hell, especially in morning traffic. I was keeping as left as possible, while drivers were passing me with barely any distance between my bike and the car. This sort of behaviour could have gotten me injured or killed! (Punishments passes, as they’re called, happen here a fair bit btw)
Not all cyclists in this nation are recreational, too. I’ve cycled to school before, and there are plenty of Singaporeans who cycle as part of their commute to school/work. Unfortunately, we have to do so on narrow sidewalks which we have to share with pedestrians, or roads with cars passing by us quickly.
One should realise that to truly solve the “cyclist problem” which supposedly exists in Singapore, the best solution is to create actually good cycling insfrastructure. AND I’M NOT REFERRING TO OUR “pedestrian priority zones” or narrow-cycling path where 2 cyclists can barely pass each other. Look at cities such as Amsterdam and Uterect in the Netherlands and Copenhagen in Denmark. These cities have actual cycling infrastructure, 10x better than what we have here. This not only brings conflict between drivers and cyclists or pedestrians and cyclists to near-zero (the problem we’re trying to solve in SG) but also allows contributes cycling to becoming the main mode of private transport for a large segment of the population. There are many other UA-camrs (check out Not Just Bikes) who explain this way better than I can, but you get the idea.
In a nutshell: if you want to end the conflict between cyclists and drivers, and cyclists and pedestrians, build proper, useful and attractive cycling infrastructure that a majority of the population who owns bicycles will use without regrets.
Also don't forget a lot of the park connectors top speed is 10km/h (Bukit timah) not the 25km/h so I ride the roads instead
Then why you walk on pavement when you don't pay footpath tax? Why you use the traffic light to cross the road when you don't pay road tax? Then you should enforce people of all ages to pay road tax since everyone uses traffic light to cross the road
You aware Amsterdam have rubbish public transport right? And they have 588 car per 1000 people compared to Singapore 149....they not as utopia as you want to believe.... Everytime I visited amsterdam my uncle always drive me somewhere while in my wife home town Singapore we just use public transport...
People who cycle just to get to point A to point B is not an issue, they try to avoid using the road as much as they can. Tour de France/Singapore cyclist on the other hand...
The best safest way for me is to stay away from the road all the time or as much as possible (meaning 99.99%). Any bad thing happened, the cyclist is the most vulnerable to get hurt or even get killed, life is so precious and it only takes just one single accident to lose your life. Not worth it. If you really treasure your precious life, by all means just stay away from riding on the road. Period.
Drivers already not being considerate for other drivers, dont expect them to be nice to cyclists on the road.
Singapore is just too small and packed to have bicycles on the road
Cygel is the most Singaporean name I’ve ever heard