Also underated here(I remember seeing them @Manchester Polytechnic(seen a lot of bands there & it was cheap 50p or 75p to see them.(those were the days my friend)!
Barry Adamson is an amazing musician and songwriter, check out his tune _Hip No Therapy_ from the 1996 _Off Beat: A Red Hot Soundtrip_ compilation (an amazing collection of some very strong and unique tunes, imo). He has lots of other music, of course, but that tune really grabbed me, and still stands the test of time, imho.
I met the band backstage in 1979 and to this day remains the only time I've ever been star-struck when I shook Howard Devoto's hand and opened my mouth and nothing would come out. Magnificent find this and thanks for posting.
Exactly how it felt the one time I caught a train and bumped into Swans´s Michael Gira ...only thing which came out was a "Thank you (for everything ) " and a handshake . Usually I talk to them ,but that one time , I dunno if it was the state I was in which I feared would make me seem/sound like some lobotomised mental patient ,or plain star struck just like you. He´s just a small dude with a cowboy hat and a couple of beers he had bought on the train´s bar ,still I couldn´t bring myself to go over and engage in any conversation.
Compared to 6 string, bass is piss easy to play. I started on bass then moved into guitar. Bass is fun and important, but being perfectly brutally honest any twat can play bass.
@@draxlerchronicles5851 yes and no. Easy to pick up and get the hang of compared to guitar, but the bass requires a lot of stamina and precision, that’s not even taking playing live into consideration
Greatest song ever made by a walking mile. And I wasn't a massive Magazine fan . Quality personified. My band have finished our gig with this since we were teens. And we're now 50 odd year old dudes. 🙏🏻
It’s common knowledge that Pete Shelley from Buzzcocks “ allowed “ Magazine to use his iconic riff for this song... glad he did cod I love the original Buzzcocks useage and this also does it huge justice... of course McGeoch took it, ran with it and made it part of a unique and fantastic song... love it
My understanding is that Devoto continued to write for the Buzzcocks after his departure. McGeoch and Devoto put this song together, for the Buzzcocks.
Hi disco secret , I’m pretty sure that the riff was written by Pete Shelley for a Buzzcocks song , Devoto quit to form magazine but they were allowed to use it… came from Shelley himself I recall
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Pete Shelly wrote the riff for Devoto for this tune for magazine. But they both collaborated to write this tune. Shelly 6 months later used the riff in Lipstick and gave Devoto credit on the record.
Great bass playing on this, the song was a popular feature of The Hitmen ( ex Radio Birdman, pre Hoodoo Gurus members ) live set in the suburbs of late 70's Australia.
Was just a little too young to see Birdman in the 70s but made up for it later. Lucky enough to see the Hitmen, the Visitors at various times at the legendary Stagedoor Tavern in Sydney including the Comrades of War night. Great bands. Saw Magazine early 80s after they had put out more stuff. Fantastic live in a small venue.
The rendering of the words of this song by Howard Devoto equals the expression of Johnny Rotten. Also magnificent camerawork for Howard to interact with. The soundquality is poor, but what the hack?! The album is great
Oh yeah , between McGeoch , Keith Levene and Colin Newman you have the Post punk sound (latter being the most under rated guitarist/songwriter I can think of right now ).@@growlerthe2nd712
When I was young I always said I would get the Devoto / Eno hairstyle when mine thinned. Alas, that happened so fast that I didn't have a chance to remember that promise.
In a film called 'In Bruges' made in Bruges, Belgium a lead character has the same view of the country as you. It's very funny, helped by Bruges being beautiful. They also gave us Jacques Brel, Django Reinhardt, Toots Thielemans and much more worth exploring ... Belgians have pretty good taste but there are not many of them.
Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2214PM 12.9.23 HEY MAN.......... i bought in fabric... and i am this band's ultimate fan. though can tell you nothing about it or it's membership... what was goin' on with the sound guy, with the elongated and echoing wordage..... shohohohohhot.. etc?
@@GazelyGaze Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2229pm 12.9.23 have you full concert? this seems like a proper gig. he looks up for it. he seems long haired and muso-ish. i once met a guy in a camera store he looked like HD. i wondered if it was his son or something... it kindda ruins the composition.. amusingly so.. as though he had to emphasise a certain word during some terrible conjuring trick. the great impresto!! if he ever writes again i think he should use that Nom de guerre... ahaha. cheers!!!
@@GazelyGazeMagazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2236pm 12.9.23 Ist da jemand? Kannst du mir einen Schlag für Ja geben, zwei für den Rasen!? ah. i was trying my new paranormal interaction skit. type something into computer voice app and see if it can connect to ghostly presences.... you replied. so that must say something about the dead... or about being a Walloon or Flemish music fan. ahahaha... adios. old ham.. any birds about here or anywhere to get a pint?
They were absolutely bloody marvellous. Listen to (i) Real Life, (ii) Secondhand Daylight, (iii) Magic, Murder and the Weather, and you will be a happy man. Also, perhaps. 'Jerky Versions of the Dream'.
Anyone got a quick rundown of what he's actually saying in this song? Like is it something to do with people's political views on the left and thr right being dissonant or what
I always took it literally about war. But your interpretation is how I feel about modern politics - one side wants the government to shaft you and the other side wants corporations to shaft you.
According to a few places ive looked, its about people who become very politically stubborn, and end up resorting to violence on people who disagree with their views
Someone asked that about a year ago. The best guess was that it's something like: - "we're going to have a break and let you think about that. You got, ah, fifteen seconds."
This is the kinda band where basically each member is some sort of genius. Magazine is criminally underrated in the States.
Also underated here(I remember seeing them @Manchester Polytechnic(seen a lot of
bands there & it was cheap 50p or 75p to see them.(those were the days my friend)!
The way John McGeoch slides his hand down the neck of that guitar and makes it scream ever shriller and louder is a wonderful thing!!!
Watching him just now, I was reminded of how the late Roy Buchanan could make his guitar positively sing.
RIP John McGeoch
It's like Brian Eno and Johnny Rotten had a test tube baby
ha ha, spot on!
The guitarist played in Rottens PIL
This was such an exciting single for that time - Still sounds great over four decades later....
This bass player is very underrated.
Barry Adamson is an amazing musician and songwriter, check out his tune _Hip No Therapy_ from the 1996 _Off Beat: A Red Hot Soundtrip_ compilation (an amazing collection of some very strong and unique tunes, imo). He has lots of other music, of course, but that tune really grabbed me, and still stands the test of time, imho.
The musician more complete in the last 45 years.In Magazine,Barry Adamson play electric bass with a sound extraordinary.Mighty and nice.
@@poempadgett4664It's true.This man IS a máster.
Why does he look so beautiful in this? He looks gorgeous
John McGeoch was an incredible artist!! Very original way of playing the guitar!!! R.I.P.
I met the band backstage in 1979 and to this day remains the only time I've ever been star-struck when I shook Howard Devoto's hand and opened my mouth and nothing would come out.
Magnificent find this and thanks for posting.
Exactly how it felt the one time I caught a train and bumped into Swans´s Michael Gira ...only thing which came out was a "Thank you (for everything ) " and a handshake . Usually I talk to them ,but that one time , I dunno if it was the state I was in which I feared would make me seem/sound like some lobotomised mental patient ,or plain star struck just like you. He´s just a small dude with a cowboy hat and a couple of beers he had bought on the train´s bar ,still I couldn´t bring myself to go over and engage in any conversation.
Co-written by Pete Shelley...probably my favorite single song...it' got everything.
Lipstick
Arguably the best riff ever!!!
radiohead's just is someway inspired from this (jonny greenwood loves mcgeoch and magaziines)
I believe Barry Adamson had only been playing bass for about six months when they recorded that first album, which is kinda amazing, in my opinion.
Compared to 6 string, bass is piss easy to play. I started on bass then moved into guitar.
Bass is fun and important, but being perfectly brutally honest any twat can play bass.
@@draxlerchronicles5851 yes and no. Easy to pick up and get the hang of compared to guitar, but the bass requires a lot of stamina and precision, that’s not even taking playing live into consideration
@@draxlerchronicles5851 All depends what basslines are being played. The bass line on this song would need someone pretty good.
@@draxlerchronicles5851 Just not as well as Barry.
@@draxlerchronicles5851 Waiting for your video playing bass on this song with same stamina, precision and timing. :)
Greatest song ever made by a walking mile. And I wasn't a massive Magazine fan . Quality personified. My band have finished our gig with this since we were teens. And we're now 50 odd year old dudes. 🙏🏻
how about 60? Went right out and bought this album when it originally came out.
I went to see Magazine back in the day xx
Every single member is so talented
It’s common knowledge that Pete Shelley from Buzzcocks “ allowed “ Magazine to use his iconic riff for this song... glad he did cod I love the original Buzzcocks useage and this also does it huge justice... of course McGeoch took it, ran with it and made it part of a unique and fantastic song... love it
My understanding is that Devoto continued to write for the Buzzcocks after his departure. McGeoch and Devoto put this song together, for the Buzzcocks.
Hi disco secret , I’m pretty sure that the riff was written by Pete Shelley for a Buzzcocks song , Devoto quit to form magazine but they were allowed to use it… came from Shelley himself I recall
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering The song is written by Devoto/Shelley. So you might well be right.
@@80ssynthfan48 yep, cheers 🍻 for that 80’s 👍
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Pete Shelly wrote the riff for Devoto for this tune for magazine. But they both collaborated to write this tune. Shelly 6 months later used the riff in Lipstick and gave Devoto credit on the record.
Devoto......... LEGEND !!!!!!!
Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 seems the sound guy thought this was a magic act... or soemthing...
Great bass playing on this, the song was a popular feature of The Hitmen ( ex Radio Birdman, pre Hoodoo Gurus members ) live set in the suburbs of late 70's Australia.
Was just a little too young to see Birdman in the 70s but made up for it later. Lucky enough to see the Hitmen, the Visitors at various times at the legendary Stagedoor Tavern in Sydney including the Comrades of War night. Great bands. Saw Magazine early 80s after they had put out more stuff. Fantastic live in a small venue.
The rendering of the words of this song by Howard Devoto equals the expression of Johnny Rotten. Also magnificent camerawork for Howard to interact with. The soundquality is poor, but what the hack?! The album is great
Outside The Clash my favourite punk single - great B side too.
Priceless footage.
One of the great bands of the time. Personally, I think they were better than Joy Division though I doubt many agree.
Also Wire and PIL
Oh yeah , between McGeoch , Keith Levene and Colin Newman you have the Post punk sound (latter being the most under rated guitarist/songwriter I can think of right now ).@@growlerthe2nd712
Do you use drug??🙈😅🤣
Good but not better.
I don't like comparison. I think they unique in someway. Magazine is more fast pace with catchy riff. Joy division is spacy and more atmospheric.
Great guitar from John, fantastic. Thanks for this.
They were so tight and timing was perfect
Wot an f-ing great band. Intellectual and melodic.
McGeoch Is wonderfullllll 🏴☠️I love John ♥️ 🌹 RIP 🌹
Always a top band,from the post-punk era of the late 70's to them re-forming 2009...".No Thyself" is a brilliant album.
Ah. I haven't heard it. Thanx i Will listen to no thyself
Howard is so cool, omg
The lead break will never be bettered ever! Still gets me every time! Fukin phenomenal 🖤🔥💥
Thanks for uploading. Any version of any song of this band deserve's to be registrated and publiziced
Wonderful. I saw them at the De Montfort Hall Leicester in '79. John McGeoch so very badly missed
Awesome song!!! Magazine is a hidden jem.
When I was young I always said I would get the Devoto / Eno hairstyle when mine thinned. Alas, that happened so fast that I didn't have a chance to remember that promise.
Oh God. I love this.
I like the missed delay effect on the first time he sais "shot"
That's what happens when it's live! You take risks that it won't be quite right, but no over-slick over-produced blandness here.
This is great 👍
Que buena banda es magazine su esencia es el postpunk
con el mejor guitarrista de post punk
Simply badass.
beautiful....still.
Descansa en poder.
Gracias por vivir.
Un pezzo della madonna!
They had a gig on a mersey ferry. The "royal iris" if i remember rightly. I was at the front.
Merci.
One of the coolest bands, EVER.
Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. I am off to listen to 'Telephone Operator'.
So underated
Their music is over the heads of the masses.
Brilliant!
great band. thanks uploader.
Very nice
No wonder he didn’t draw crowds. Too arrogant.. Such a shame. Love his work. Brilliant stuff.
Perhaps artists need to be arrogant to get up there and do it. But then they need to be able to hide their arrogance!
The glory days.
Love it!
Thanks .
Great song
From a Country that gave us Plastic Bertrand and fuck all else, they were lucky to see such a seminal band.
Pixies were good Brielpoort Sept sometime.
Mate there's great music everywhere, even in Belgium, but the global industry never gave a toss about bands that refused to sing in English.
In a film called 'In Bruges' made in Bruges, Belgium a lead character has the same view of the country as you. It's very funny, helped by Bruges being beautiful. They also gave us Jacques Brel, Django Reinhardt, Toots Thielemans and much more worth exploring ... Belgians have pretty good taste but there are not many of them.
Awesome!!
Those moves are so influential.
In college, only the art students were into Magazine, Joy Division and Echo and the Bunnyman.
Everyone else listened to fucking Dire Straits.
As it should be!
@@linmaisun Peeeew.
Magazine, forever expressing my feelings. Somewhere between the waitress and her table.
I love you big Dummy!!!
brilliant
HOWARD DEVETO the valtimore of punk..
Reminds me a lot of Brian Eno’s early art rock albums
And so does his receding hair-line!
@@GazelyGaze It actually looks pretty badass on him, it accentuates his face, which matches the angular music they make
Wow
Used to play this song to death on 12 inch!
UNREAL Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brillant
"Shot by both sides. I don't ask who is doing the shooting."
Sounds like the refrain in Liptsick.
Radiohead said that this song inspired a riff in their song Just.
Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2214PM 12.9.23 HEY MAN.......... i bought in fabric... and i am this band's ultimate fan. though can tell you nothing about it or it's membership... what was goin' on with the sound guy, with the elongated and echoing wordage..... shohohohohhot.. etc?
The 'shot' echo must've seemed a good idea at the time...
@@GazelyGaze Magazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2229pm 12.9.23 have you full concert? this seems like a proper gig. he looks up for it. he seems long haired and muso-ish. i once met a guy in a camera store he looked like HD. i wondered if it was his son or something... it kindda ruins the composition.. amusingly so.. as though he had to emphasise a certain word during some terrible conjuring trick. the great impresto!! if he ever writes again i think he should use that Nom de guerre... ahaha. cheers!!!
@@JJONNYREPP Sadly that's all I have from the TV programme; 'the hit single'.
@@GazelyGazeMagazine 'Shot By Both Sides' live Belgian TV 1979 2236pm 12.9.23 Ist da jemand? Kannst du mir einen Schlag für Ja geben, zwei für den Rasen!? ah. i was trying my new paranormal interaction skit. type something into computer voice app and see if it can connect to ghostly presences.... you replied. so that must say something about the dead... or about being a Walloon or Flemish music fan. ahahaha... adios. old ham.. any birds about here or anywhere to get a pint?
Strange but not bad first time hearing this
11/10.
Triggerfinger need to cover this. As a matter of urgency.
Fckn outstandin
I've never heard of this band. Was this band one of the good ones at its time? They sound pretty good.
er....yes ! go listen to all their albums ... very nice
They were absolutely bloody marvellous. Listen to (i) Real Life, (ii) Secondhand Daylight, (iii) Magic, Murder and the Weather, and you will be a happy man. Also, perhaps. 'Jerky Versions of the Dream'.
@@JHatLpool Thank you brother for the tip. I am still learning about Rock n Roll.
@@pazamor9164 They were great. The Correct Use of Soap is an excellent album, but maybe start at the beginning, Real Life.
@@80ssynthfan48 Thank you for you reply, man. I still have to learn a lot about rock music.
Young McGeoch!
I can hear the influence on early Simple Minds here....hear?
Modern Eon thought I was their drummer! Child's Play era.
Barry Adamson where are you??
He's recently (Oct 2021) released an autobiog. which is well worth a read
Dobby, the early years.
Ah Back in the days when bands had to have someone who could sing and people who could play their instruments
talke about a distinctive bass sound Did he play with Pete Shelly when shelly went solo?
No, that was buzzcocks bassist steve garvey
Somehow begining reminds me of the endlng of "Wunderschätze" by German band Novalis.
Oh! Maybe they were twins? Maybe not...
1:24!!!!!!!!
Saw magazine in Belgium opening. For pil. Of course magazine. Where 10 x better
Devoto is Lydon half Emo Phillips
Great! Thank you!
McGeoch!
Brilliant times...is it just me or does Howard look like Klaus Nomi ???
or Brian eno
I thought this exact thing yesterday! They have similar faces
he totally gives me a Klaus Nomi vibe with his wide eyed expressions! I am glad it’s not just me!
Hey kids!
Take a trip back in time to when music mattered
3 minutes of post punk perfection
Kids?
Le jeune public belge de l'époque n'a pas trop l'air de comprendre ce qui se passe 🤪
They'll have to rewrite all their books again
Anyone got a quick rundown of what he's actually saying in this song?
Like is it something to do with people's political views on the left and thr right being dissonant or what
I always took it literally about war. But your interpretation is how I feel about modern politics - one side wants the government to shaft you and the other side wants corporations to shaft you.
According to a few places ive looked, its about people who become very politically stubborn, and end up resorting to violence on people who disagree with their views
@@Andrew-zo5po Probably and it's become the case again recently.
Its about being a political centrist. Both sides hate you. Look at that Starmer guy in the UK.
@@andyh7895 Starmer is a tosser though and not for poltical reasons.
Fr shrr
Can anyone inlighten me as to what he says before they start playing? "__??__ you've got about 15 seconds"
Someone asked that about a year ago. The best guess was that it's something like: - "we're going to have a break and let you think about that. You got, ah, fifteen seconds."
is this the only song that was filmed? would love to see the whole set...
it's the only song they made available...
A masterpiece track like this could never be replicated by emo wank kids in 2020. All 5 musicians working on V8 cylinders.
black midi do it every time they're plugged into an electrical supply
Too much time in safe spaces.
KILLer live band. Way better THEN THE buzzcocks. Live just. MINDBLOWING. Great. Just top band
Rubbish. No way are they *way better* than Buzzcocks. And there is no THE.
And what is ‘way better’? Surely you mean ‘much better’?