I met Pete Shelley in downtown Detroit in a pizza place before we saw him and the Buzzcocks perform. What an incredibly kind and sweet man to listen to 2 fans. My friend stole his cigarette butts! Rest In Peace Pete!
BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 7.3.23 1300pm ahahaha and they all thought they were so out there and intellectual and yet 6 year old kids were blasting this shit out their bedrooms during the 77/78 shit pile. i doubt they'll forgive me that.
@@frlango6082 Comments on ‘BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978’ 201pm 6.4.23 i love howard devoto but not in gay way... p.s i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly need to get laid.
Howard Devoto was a truly great punk and of course post-punk frontman singer. He was very non-mainstream though, the reason why he was so obscure in English music.
What a treat. I was there mid 70's! Buzzcocks so many great concerts. Only saw Magazine a couple of times. Buzzcocks soundtrack to my teenage life, count myself lucky x
Never really found access to Howard Devoto but Pete Shelley and The Buzzcocks "Singles Going Steady" and Bowie's "Station To Station" were the only things on my turntable.
Really nice document of a bygone era when music actually meant something. Two brilliant but very different bands that set the stage for so much to come. Thanks for uploading this!
Both Shelley and Devoto were brilliant in their own different ways and it was great that they reunited for their superb Buzzkunst album many years later.
both groups were truly original. magazine was super avant garde, buzzcocks really fresh sound. we had just dross prescription pop before or silly prog rock before this. now we had interesting lyrics and more complex music. real life is the only thing i still listen to in my world of jazz and classical music.
I like Devoto and a lot of Magazine stuff - but I'm really glad he left the Buzzcocks. The subsequent Buzzcocks are about as important to me as the Ramones, or the Pistols. Same league of sophisticated pop simplicity and punch. And around @22:04 Shelley explains what would help people sort out our fucked up mess today! RIP
@@jtukbb Nothing is original, everything is stolen to some degree. Regardless of originality or not, Shelley's songs were top shelf and have been an inspiration to thousands of groups for the past 45 years.
BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 1302pm 7.3.23 i like devoto, also. he was pretty well read, i feel. probably eating all that russian literature. didn't he, devoto, put the gigs on..?
seen magazine at satalight city in glasgow when i was 14 .they put on a great show.Howard was different frontman than the usual and it took a couple of songs till the crowd warmed to them,but they cheered and waited for encores at the end,thanks Magazine
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Magazine is amazing. Bands like the sparks and bands like the fall and then the smiths were bands that to me had something intelligent to say and deep. Like peter Gabriel's earlier work. It was good having bands that gave you more than the 4 chords and angst. Dont get me wrong the Buzzcocks were brilliant. And when you were in the mood for that energy , it was great. So yeah something for everyone.
Great to see some early live footage of both bands. Gutted I never seen Shelley before he died, however I will be going to see them in Dublin this November along with the Undertones!
GOOD EARS 'Metal Machine' soul brother! It's been 10?15? YEARS since I could readily hear some short blats of sound from of my ancient vinyl copy of that record. It's those Brits and their fearlessly-eclectic musical taste and vocabulary, their encyclopedic musical knowledge and their Devil-may-care ''take it or leave it''' attitude about who may like it and who may not.
BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 1317pm 7.3.23 was the chap on the bass playing for the buzzcocks at electric circus the drummer for tubeway army - he who used to white up?
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Comments on ‘BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978’ 16.6.24 1924PM garth? who...? garth......? garth's a bit vague, sir. football now, though. and i am sure garth did not play with anyof these dudes, either. p.s is garth alright... is he being persecuted in prestwich somewhere...?
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Comments on ‘BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978’ 1054am 22.6.24 spiral scratch was my only reference as a yoof and it was formative years yoofdom... not that testy phase of faux maturity with a soupcon of pretentiousness, the staple of dead end art.... so... the honest opinion of myself is, as it was when no one was listening, which means...not much has altered there, then, son... is that i like devoto and the oiks from the buzzcocks. though, again, they did string it out to the umpteenth degree - the career span of buzzcocks. and i liked devoto for plodding on as opposed to harping back to the past...or so i thought until i found he'd revivified magazine and dun a jobbie on the past to re-hash it. maybe beggers banquet fucked up devoto's artistic endevours when he founded luxuria. i think luxuria went to beggers banquet. i think.. goths ruin a great deal - if yer not specifically goth...anyhow, i never met devoto nor have any connection to the real punks of yesteryear even though i was listening to all this b.s when it was going down. i just too young, y'see., to be a "fan".. i probably cried when i couldnt get to the church feat they held all those years ago - so the buzzcocks could play...for dubious kids too young to cotton on to the pretentiousness of those arty farty punks like maclaran and westwood..(sic) though, again, i dont mind westwood. or some of maclaren's oddness. i wont endorse anyone, though. i like music. and that's where it ends for me. yer oeuvre's either worthy or not. there again, i have listened to the fucked up noise of merzbow, the extreme reverb laden shit not the melodious pop sensibilites of merzbow. i blame lou reed for that.... anyhow... good luck. devoto's worthy of my time. and all that i got from spiral scratch other than a greta deal of laughs at the lyrics and his deadpan delivery was a bemsued perusal of his shoestring tie as he slanted his head to one side for the phtoshoot. shoe strring ties. besmusing. there you go. p.s i have been known to play the spiral scratch ep over 50 time sin succession without a break - reasserting some antiquated connection, there, cheers.
I fucking love these guys, all of them. & I'm pretty sure that's lou reed's MMM in the background there too. ua-cam.com/video/3x7-T4_d--U/v-deo.html total wilson, that.
This is super cool. Though it feels like they care a lot more about Magazine than the Buzzcocks? Though maybe they felt the interview they had in the can of Devoto turned out more interesting than Shelley's. I love both bands.
less access to media options then. now all music and tv and film is at your fingertips due to the web. seems less isolated, though that is a deception. more information access though. easy to learn about any band you hear of.
Pete could sing. As for Howard, a disingenuous failed drug haggled crooner, leaning on a bar and spouting sixth form level pretentious neo-Kafkaesque/Beckett lines as inspiring as a line of coke. Sorry.
I love that Pete was interviewed in a Woolworth's Cafe
Magazine's Secondhand Daylight changed my life when I heard it nearly 30 years ago. Still, it remains one of my Top 5 albums.
Near my top ten as well. Listened last night. So good. It's a pretty personal album for me
It's a classic.
"I will drug and fuck you....." Permafrost lyric made a big impact on me as a 15 year old.. It was so dark and arty. Still so
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Yeah he got a bit of stick for that one - mostly (though not entirely) from fools. Brilliant track, brilliant lp.
Best!
I met Pete Shelley in downtown Detroit in a pizza place before we saw him and the Buzzcocks perform. What an incredibly kind and sweet man to listen to 2 fans. My friend stole his cigarette butts! Rest In Peace Pete!
BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 7.3.23 1300pm ahahaha and they all thought they were so out there and intellectual and yet 6 year old kids were blasting this shit out their bedrooms during the 77/78 shit pile. i doubt they'll forgive me that.
Sound bloke. Very talented
@@frlango6082 Comments on ‘BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978’ 201pm 6.4.23 i love howard devoto but not in gay way... p.s i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly i reallly need to get laid.
@vegetariansuniteworldwide8091 Nikki's Pizza?
@@bibsma3401 BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 0604am 4.5.23 nikki owns nowt of mine, sir...
Howard Devoto was a truly great punk and of course post-punk frontman singer.
He was very non-mainstream though, the reason why he was so obscure in English music.
BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 i was expecting: personally it moves only my bowels...
shame.
I for one am glad Howard and Pete split because I have 2 great bands to love.
I really like documentaries like this one. Magazine and The Buzzcocks were Legends and Pioneers of the early UK punk scene in the North.
Magazine blew pil of stage..stunning live band😊
Superb. Thanks for this.
@12:24 Magazine seems to have set the stage for Joy Division
When music was a live force that flowed through the young who had no other ambition than to make music and make statements.
Great Doc... even the interviewer is a Legend!!!!
What a treat. I was there mid 70's! Buzzcocks so many great concerts. Only saw Magazine a couple of times. Buzzcocks soundtrack to my teenage life, count myself lucky x
Never really found access to Howard Devoto but Pete Shelley and The Buzzcocks "Singles Going Steady" and Bowie's "Station To Station" were the only things on my turntable.
Really nice document of a bygone era when music actually meant something. Two brilliant but very different bands that set the stage for so much to come. Thanks for uploading this!
Magazine was F'n amazing, Howard was on another level, Easy to see why he left the Buzzcocks
I agree ❤
Both Shelley and Devoto were brilliant in their own different ways and it was great that they reunited for their superb Buzzkunst album many years later.
Pete sure liked wearing the muticolored shirt back then.
I was lucky enough to see the Buzzcocks in 1978, and Magazine in 1980.
Teignmouth Street and Collyhurst Street 1315pm 7.3.23 wow. the man who celebrates being unwanted or turned down. not so much turned away.
I had that same shirt in 76.
both groups were truly original. magazine was super avant garde, buzzcocks really fresh sound. we had just dross prescription pop before or silly prog rock before this. now we had interesting lyrics and more complex music. real life is the only thing i still listen to in my world of jazz and classical music.
I've just discovered this. I can't wait to watch it in full.
Thank you for the upload.
I like Devoto and a lot of Magazine stuff - but I'm really glad he left the Buzzcocks. The subsequent Buzzcocks are about as important to me as the Ramones, or the Pistols. Same league of sophisticated pop simplicity and punch. And around @22:04 Shelley explains what would help people sort out our fucked up mess today! RIP
agree
Absolutely.
@@jtukbb Nothing is original, everything is stolen to some degree. Regardless of originality or not, Shelley's songs were top shelf and have been an inspiration to thousands of groups for the past 45 years.
@@algreaves4515 I’m
BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 1302pm 7.3.23 i like devoto, also. he was pretty well read, i feel. probably eating all that russian literature. didn't he, devoto, put the gigs on..?
Something deliciously homespun & provincial about his song inspired by starting going out with the girl , who was working at Woolies, Bolton...
seen magazine at satalight city in glasgow when i was 14 .they put on a great show.Howard was different frontman than the usual and it took a couple of songs till the crowd warmed to them,but they cheered and waited for encores at the end,thanks Magazine
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Motorcade 🖤
I like the interviews with Howard.
Theres a great 10" vinyl called Live at the electric circus ...Buzzcocks , Joy Division ... essential listening.
Love both bands - Shelley so #huggable
but Devoto jeez that’s #SomePerformativePresence
And lovely to see McGeoch on the wires.
Magazine is amazing. Bands like the sparks and bands like the fall and then the smiths were bands that to me had something intelligent to say and deep. Like peter Gabriel's earlier work. It was good having bands that gave you more than the 4 chords and angst.
Dont get me wrong the Buzzcocks were brilliant. And when you were in the mood for that energy , it was great. So yeah something for everyone.
I like the difference between the audience at each of the two band's concerts ... Completly different! I loved the ending though.
Great to see some early live footage of both bands. Gutted I never seen Shelley before he died, however I will be going to see them in Dublin this November along with the Undertones!
Saw them twice with Shelley, twice without. Great on all occasions. Met Pete Shelley once and he bought me a G&T.
I never liked Magazine, in fact I thought Devoto was crap, but I loved the Buzzcocks for the energy and the simplicity of the songs.
it's crazy that 1000 years ago these same guys would be shooting arrows at castles and shit.
What a profound statement 😂
Awesome!
Saw Magazine at the Apollo Manchester and they were supported by Simple Minds...
Magazine Motocarde la guitare emmène tout!
Pete shelly wow,
Howard Devoto
Motorcade
mindbendingly
viserally effing
Great.
seen them in Liverpool in the early days
MMM on soundtrack around 4mn 🖤
GOOD EARS 'Metal Machine' soul brother! It's been 10?15? YEARS since I could readily hear some short blats of sound from of my ancient vinyl copy of that record. It's those Brits and their fearlessly-eclectic musical taste and vocabulary, their encyclopedic musical knowledge and their Devil-may-care ''take it or leave it''' attitude about who may like it and who may not.
John Peel dropped the needle on Shot By Both Sides sorted my life.
Rhythm of Cruelty 1978
Magazine were soooo much better then the buzzcocks .just fantastic
17:22 Mick Hucknall (of Simply Red) is here...!!
Hucknall down the front!
BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978 1317pm 7.3.23 was the chap on the bass playing for the buzzcocks at electric circus the drummer for tubeway army - he who used to white up?
@@JJONNYREPP No, Garth did not play with Gary Numan.
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Comments on ‘BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978’ 16.6.24 1924PM garth? who...? garth......? garth's a bit vague, sir. football now, though. and i am sure garth did not play with anyof these dudes, either. p.s is garth alright... is he being persecuted in prestwich somewhere...?
@@JJONNYREPP Garth was the original Buzzcocks bassist, later replaced by Steve Garvey.
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Comments on ‘BUZZCOCKS & MAGAZINE - [Early Years Full Documentary] 'B'dum B'dum' 1978’ 1054am 22.6.24 spiral scratch was my only reference as a yoof and it was formative years yoofdom... not that testy phase of faux maturity with a soupcon of pretentiousness, the staple of dead end art.... so... the honest opinion of myself is, as it was when no one was listening, which means...not much has altered there, then, son... is that i like devoto and the oiks from the buzzcocks. though, again, they did string it out to the umpteenth degree - the career span of buzzcocks. and i liked devoto for plodding on as opposed to harping back to the past...or so i thought until i found he'd revivified magazine and dun a jobbie on the past to re-hash it. maybe beggers banquet fucked up devoto's artistic endevours when he founded luxuria. i think luxuria went to beggers banquet. i think.. goths ruin a great deal - if yer not specifically goth...anyhow, i never met devoto nor have any connection to the real punks of yesteryear even though i was listening to all this b.s when it was going down. i just too young, y'see., to be a "fan".. i probably cried when i couldnt get to the church feat they held all those years ago - so the buzzcocks could play...for dubious kids too young to cotton on to the pretentiousness of those arty farty punks like maclaran and westwood..(sic) though, again, i dont mind westwood. or some of maclaren's oddness. i wont endorse anyone, though. i like music. and that's where it ends for me. yer oeuvre's either worthy or not. there again, i have listened to the fucked up noise of merzbow, the extreme reverb laden shit not the melodious pop sensibilites of merzbow. i blame lou reed for that.... anyhow... good luck. devoto's worthy of my time. and all that i got from spiral scratch other than a greta deal of laughs at the lyrics and his deadpan delivery was a bemsued perusal of his shoestring tie as he slanted his head to one side for the phtoshoot. shoe strring ties. besmusing. there you go. p.s i have been known to play the spiral scratch ep over 50 time sin succession without a break - reasserting some antiquated connection, there, cheers.
I fucking love these guys, all of them.
& I'm pretty sure that's lou reed's MMM in the background there too. ua-cam.com/video/3x7-T4_d--U/v-deo.html
total wilson, that.
This is super cool. Though it feels like they care a lot more about Magazine than the Buzzcocks? Though maybe they felt the interview they had in the can of Devoto turned out more interesting than Shelley's. I love both bands.
I guess they include full songs of both bands. Maybe it only feels Magazine heavy because their songs are longer, and Devoto talks slower, lol
never could really relate to the buzzcocks precisely because i hate love song lyrics. dig their music though.
why did the whole world feel like a desert back then? it's weird.
Not quite…but…
less access to media options then. now all music and tv and film is at your fingertips due to the web. seems less isolated, though that is a deception. more information access though. easy to learn about any band you hear of.
The buzzcocks are nowhere as good as Magazine sorry
Pete could sing. As for Howard, a disingenuous failed drug haggled crooner, leaning on a bar and spouting sixth form level pretentious neo-Kafkaesque/Beckett lines as inspiring as a line of coke. Sorry.
Agreed - but Buzzcocks are great too.
I disagree but love both
Magazines like a euro prog band.
I AGREE!!!❤
Neither of them changed modern music. a few dozen white nerd music critics would like to think so to validate their own record buying choices
What has their skin colour got to do with it?