Automakers Are IN TROUBLE! Sales Are DECLINING FAST!

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    Automakers are absolutely DESPERATE for sales amid sales declines and overpriced vehicles...or so Zach would have you believe! Ray believes that it's simply REALITY finally hitting these dealers after years of taking advantage of consumers. What do you think?
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  • @paulh1745
    @paulh1745 2 місяці тому +116

    A 5.8% price reduction is a joke. New cars are so overpriced, I won't consider buying a new car until the incentives are increased to 20 - 25%!

    • @IanThecrackerstacker
      @IanThecrackerstacker 2 місяці тому +17

      Hold the line for 50% off. Do not until

    • @MikeJones100_
      @MikeJones100_ 2 місяці тому +11

      @@IanThecrackerstackerespecially for these struggling companies. I said a while back that I will pay half what they are asking for most these vehicles. Might get my wish soon. 😂 HOLD.

    • @skizzurp6880
      @skizzurp6880 2 місяці тому +8

      looked up new model of my tacoma. To get same truck i bought at 3 years ago 37k is now 52k. F that, not paying 52k for a tacoma.

    • @993mike
      @993mike 2 місяці тому +3

      @@skizzurp6880Plus your generation of Tacoma is basically bulletproof on reliability, and the new ones have had several issues. You also get stuck with the coarse and unrefined 4 cylinder engine.

    • @rlb2444
      @rlb2444 2 місяці тому +1

      They are still playing the con games and treating buyers like they are stupid. If I never go back in a dealer showroom it will be too soon. KIA dealers are the worst in my opinion.

  • @Snafu2346
    @Snafu2346 2 місяці тому +281

    Drop in price are still about 15%-30% more than what they should be. Big deal with a Pacifica is from 50k to 47k. Its not worth 40k.

    • @clicks59
      @clicks59 2 місяці тому +36

      It’s not worth $20k

    • @jaygalgano8033
      @jaygalgano8033 2 місяці тому +37

      ANY average American should be able to afford the Pacifica. It should not cost more then 30K, fully loaded. However the fully loaded one is around $65K. 🤯🤯🤯

    • @hoapres
      @hoapres 2 місяці тому +25

      It's called making clickbait videos.

    • @Michael-ur5qb
      @Michael-ur5qb 2 місяці тому

      @@jaygalgano8033That’s not realistic at all lol

    • @TheAutumnNetwork
      @TheAutumnNetwork 2 місяці тому +24

      @@hoapres Pretty much. The channel used to be useful but now its just clickbait these days, super disappointing.

  • @nathanielcarreon5634
    @nathanielcarreon5634 2 місяці тому +212

    They ran out of fools to buy their overpriced cars/trucks.

    • @georg2064
      @georg2064 2 місяці тому +14

      AMEN

    • @MrCPPG
      @MrCPPG 2 місяці тому

      More like the fools ran out of banks dumb enough to give them loans.

    • @MikeJones100_
      @MikeJones100_ 2 місяці тому

      Exactly. When you hear the news saying google for “give car back” is trending it shows a lot of people have no clue wtf they are doing or how real life works. I gave it back now I owe $0!

    • @maui2erika
      @maui2erika 2 місяці тому

      And then many of us are disenchanted with the greedy ways and still aren't going to do business greedy dealers and automakers. Let them feel the desperation.

  • @scotthopkins2235
    @scotthopkins2235 2 місяці тому +96

    They are running out of idiots to buy at stupid prices.

    • @stavroslask1292
      @stavroslask1292 2 місяці тому

      Not in places like NY where more people live than LA Chicago Philadelphia and Boston combined

    • @gabilanplaza
      @gabilanplaza 2 місяці тому

      Dodge chargers and challengers comes to mind 🤔🤔🤔

  • @maverick-zj3jz
    @maverick-zj3jz 2 місяці тому +78

    THEY SAY, 500.00 REBATE. ON A 100K TRUCK.. no way jose.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому +8

      "THAT WON'T PAY FOR THE NITROGEN IN THE TIRES!" heh lol

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому +2

      Absolute, F'n joke !

    • @ronj9124
      @ronj9124 2 місяці тому

      Reminds me of the old MAD Magazine cartoon showing a coupon for "50 cents off a trip to the Moon!" Normally, a trip to the Moon cost $100 billion. But with the coupon, it only costs 99,999,999,999.50! LOL

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому

      😂@@ronj9124

  • @waltblackadar4690
    @waltblackadar4690 2 місяці тому +129

    I can afford a new car. I'd like a new car. There's zero hassle with my credit. But I'm not really looking because it'd be simply flushing money down a toilet because the new car prices are absurdly high. The auto industry has simply outpriced themselves, killing any perceived value proposition for the customer. Auto manufacturers got too greedy and priced their cars too much, outpricing much of their market. I have a mint, paid-for 2018 WRX that I'd actually like to trade in for a small/mid SUV (easier to get in and out of). But despite my WRX being a unicorn (mint with only 7k miles), I'd have to pony up $15-20k to bridge the difference to a get a moderately sized SUV (RAV, Forester, etc.). Despite me easily being able to afford it (I could pay for the whole new car in cash and my credit score is exceptional), it makes zero sense to do it.

    • @GregScholfield
      @GregScholfield 2 місяці тому +15

      In the same boat. Just can’t justify the outlay for what you’re getting. I don’t need to buy so I’ll wait until the sale price makes me feel warm and fuzzy (note: talking to 10 dealers every couple weeks)

    • @stephenpetersen354
      @stephenpetersen354 2 місяці тому +7

      Same. The only truck that I would consider is the ranger, and maybe the raptor version as a dream truck, but they are throwing mark-ups on it. I'm just so disinterested in buying right now.

    • @Richard-Reloaded
      @Richard-Reloaded 2 місяці тому +16

      But you're not an idiot. You have to take the idiots into consideration.

    • @gabrieliacoboni6951
      @gabrieliacoboni6951 2 місяці тому +9

      With you. Have a 22 Mazda 3 with 6 k miles on it. Even with that for me to get an equivalent 24 or upgrade would cost 15k easily. I could easily pay cash but why? A car is a car. Nothing separates many of them from each other. And because of the rise in prices the depreciation only grows.

    • @nicholaslake5937
      @nicholaslake5937 2 місяці тому +6

      Same.....but add a boat, camper, etc, so many things I'd like to buy and can with no issue but the ridiculous pricing pushes me to the sidelines.

  • @BlessYourHeart254
    @BlessYourHeart254 2 місяці тому +39

    Do these people understand basic math? $1000-$2000 won’t even cover the sales tax on most vehicles. Also, in many states, the median income isn’t much more than the average new car price. So let’s all keep driving our older cars until the real incentives come back. Show them what “market correction” means!

  • @johnmayerislovee
    @johnmayerislovee 2 місяці тому +55

    The MSRP and price drops are primarily on vehicles that no one wants. The Toyota's and Honda's are still priced exorbitantly.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому +5

      Not all. I'd say that Toyotas, Hondas (and to a lesser extent) Subaru and Mazdas have a "higher base of perceived value".
      A lot of that is built upon "perceived Quality". Models in the low to mid 20's can still be found out there for buyers who don't require all the "gingerbread" trims/packages.

    • @humanchannel9421
      @humanchannel9421 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@@NVRAMboiThe quality isn't just perceived.
      A Mazda is value above and beyond an American or European sh*tbox that will fall apart in 3 years.

    • @genoaoak
      @genoaoak 2 місяці тому +8

      A Toyota Highlander is priced about the same as that Chrysler Pacifica shitbox, so no the Toyotas are not (really) priced exorbitantly, but the Chryslers are.

    • @Trd2020
      @Trd2020 2 місяці тому

      @@humanchannel9421Mazda sucks just as bad as american cars

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 2 місяці тому +2

      Honda civics are a little overpriced, but 10-20% of 20k is a lot better 10-20% of a 40k vehicle.
      Accords are about where they were before covid. I cannot attest to the rest of the linup because I don’t find honda’s other vehicles good looking so never paid attention

  • @user-pw8ur9lh8w
    @user-pw8ur9lh8w 2 місяці тому +76

    They should be worried and desperate, prices are inflated unreasonably

    • @ZacharySound
      @ZacharySound 2 місяці тому +2

      That's why they aren't desperate! Too many overpriced cars. If they were desperate it would show. They aren't budging still. They aren't desperate.

    • @JavierGonzalez-xg2tq
      @JavierGonzalez-xg2tq 2 місяці тому

      Do you know how many times i tried to swipe the HAIR off my screen 'till i realized it was your picture thing? LOL, ya gat meh!

  • @hendrikvandermerwe4978
    @hendrikvandermerwe4978 2 місяці тому +53

    It's called "self destruction" and "reaping what you sowed"! They thought that screwing over people and getting them in under-water on the values of the vehicles they sold them - with NO regard whatsoever for those buyers, they will get away with it! Well, now they are reaping that destruction - and I could not care less for them. I feel for the people who are now in such a bad position, they cannot get rid of those vehicles! If the dealers had ANY moral integrity, they would trade those overpriced vehicles and EAT the losses themselves and not pass it onto the customer on a new vehicle. NOW customers should NOT buy - let these crooks FRY.

    • @nathanielpreble5108
      @nathanielpreble5108 2 місяці тому +15

      Couldn't agree more this is 100% corporate greed. Now these "stealerships" are getting their comeuppins!!! Let them all go bankrupt!

    • @Leo_Vasileio
      @Leo_Vasileio 2 місяці тому +11

      Damn😂, i felt that in my soul. I couldn't agree more. Cars are not houses.

    • @hokie9910
      @hokie9910 2 місяці тому

      What happened in 2008 with houses is going to happen with vehicles, just wait because there’s going to be an implosion. I would bet the banks are now selling packaged car loans to investors with bullshit credit scores, just like they did with mortgages, and when those suckers start defaulting people with throw their keys at the banks so fast it will make your head spin. When we hit the bottom, I truly believe we will see tucks and SUVs that sold, especially Jeep and Ram, for 90k sell for 20-30k with just 3 years of delectation or so,
      .

    • @jasonbussey100
      @jasonbussey100 2 місяці тому +4

      So who forced these poor innocent victims to buy those clearly overpriced vehicles? I made some bad decisions in my younger years but those decisions were mine. People getting in over their heads with a vehicle purchase is not the dealership’s fault. So no, the dealership should not have to eat it because some moron financed a 90K truck for 10 years that’s now valued at 50K. Just my two cents

    • @ilovetrump1252
      @ilovetrump1252 2 місяці тому

      Must be a Democrat blaming others for your poor decision

  • @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation
    @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation 2 місяці тому +105

    All TrucksCarsVanSuv's are Over Priced by 60% ! Boycott Em until We Get what We Want and Need.

    • @smokeyj3983
      @smokeyj3983 2 місяці тому +15

      We don't have to boycott them, we just can't buy, were tapped out. 😫

    • @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation
      @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation 2 місяці тому +14

      @@smokeyj3983 Biggest issue with the American buyer is [ They dont treat their Rides like a House ] it should be a Long Term Investment. Keep what u have and Fix Em Up vs. Seeking the better home/truck for the looks & bragging rights to nowhere.

    • @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation
      @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation 2 місяці тому +6

      One Best cars I bot $500 1969 Ford Gal. 302v8 from a ladie who could no longer drive back in 1986 w/67,000miles on it. She bot it new/took care of it. It was near new when i got the breast . Put 80,000miles on it [Battery/lightbulbs/am-radio & Brakes was the only parts i have to replace.] Sold it in 1999 $1,000.

    • @vlado3304
      @vlado3304 2 місяці тому +6

      Let them pay you to take their car.

    • @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation
      @ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation 2 місяці тому +1

      @@vlado3304

  • @garfieldsmith332
    @garfieldsmith332 2 місяці тому +46

    How about 35% price reduction, no dealer add-ons, dealers advertise Out-The-Door price, free scheduled maintenance/service at the dealerships for 2 years. And build vehciles without all the crap that is not needed, Build some more basic vehicles.

    • @ZacharySound
      @ZacharySound 2 місяці тому +4

      I remember the days when if you were out at a dealership looking for a NEW car the dealerships would fight tooth and nail to get you a really goood deal. If you didn't want any of the add-ons or packages they wouldn't sweat it. They would get you what you want.

    • @jrs9264
      @jrs9264 2 місяці тому +1

      That's utopia, which scumbag dealers will never do..🤑💰🤡👺🤮

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ZacharySound I remember those days as well.

    • @BrUh-sj1pc
      @BrUh-sj1pc 2 місяці тому +3

      not sure bout 35% price reduction, but toyota dealer near me offered me. white rav4 le fwd gas version for 30,600 OTD. without add ons. just mudguards. EDIT: 2 year maintainace and 7 years / 100K warranty at 4.75% . check your toyota dealership. im about to pull the trigger. next years rav4 redesign probably gonna be round 3K increase for a base. MORE EDIT: Honda told me its 36K OTD for a white crv lx and they have more than 100 CRVs on their lot. i think toyotas doing it right

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 2 місяці тому

      @@BrUh-sj1pc I am not in the market for a car. And besides I am in Canada and the dealers are a lot different the way they sell cars.

  • @ericdean2525
    @ericdean2525 2 місяці тому +34

    The crazy thing is, Americans didn’t stop buying because they don’t want new cars. They really want new cars but most Americans have been priced out of cars they want, not necessarily what they need. Everyone wants the new new with all the bells and whistles. As soon as the consumers figure out they’ve had the power all along, I would hope we could regain control of this out of control pricing. Ultimately it won’t happen because of our insatiable desire for the new new.

    • @johnbeckham1483
      @johnbeckham1483 2 місяці тому +12

      Vote the Biden Administration out!

    • @ZacharySound
      @ZacharySound 2 місяці тому +1

      Shit!.. I did and I'm not going to be in debt like all these idiots that paid for overpriced cars.

    • @ZacharySound
      @ZacharySound 2 місяці тому +1

      @@johnbeckham1483 lol vote yourself out.

    • @drewmcclintock7034
      @drewmcclintock7034 2 місяці тому

      No, not everyone. Don't put all people into the same group.

  • @coffeeandxanax2158
    @coffeeandxanax2158 2 місяці тому +31

    10 or even 20% off of a product whose price has risen 35-40% over the last five years is not a deal

    • @jamesrecknor6752
      @jamesrecknor6752 2 місяці тому

      "Yes, but we have lowered our Donuts and Hotdogs fee to only $995!"

  • @TeksonikAudio
    @TeksonikAudio 2 місяці тому +91

    A $2,000 drop in MSRP on a $58,000 vehicle that is overpriced by $20,000 is an insult. It doesn't matter if the MSRP goes down if greedy dealers just jack up the add-ons by as much if not more. One car I'm looking at has an $1,100 markdown but $1,695 in dealer adds on including nitrogen and door edge guards....on a Nissan. 17th ranked out of 30 in reliability. Until corporate greed and dealer greed are addressed nothing will ever change for the consumer.

    • @ArnoldsDesign
      @ArnoldsDesign 2 місяці тому +6

      I refuse to pay for nitrogen, a gas that already comprises 78% of air.

    • @MustyGrapes
      @MustyGrapes 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ArnoldsDesign lmao, that one is my biggest pet peeve. Years ago I had a dodge dealer refuse to take that one off. It was interesting to hear him try to convince me about its value.

    • @beaurex4756
      @beaurex4756 2 місяці тому +5

      "nitrogen and door edge guards". Hahahahaha Dealers are brazen THIEVES.

    • @sawyermartin4434
      @sawyermartin4434 2 місяці тому

      I don't like the Pacifica or most of Stellantis' offerings either, but get over yourself. No one is "insulting" you. If you don't like the price, no harm no foul. Purchase something else.

    • @daveshepherd7582
      @daveshepherd7582 2 місяці тому +2

      Remember, if it’s taxable it’s negotiable!

  • @michaellalanae7228
    @michaellalanae7228 2 місяці тому +16

    What? No buyers for the f150 listed at 150k ? That's crazy ..

  • @RZRL1990
    @RZRL1990 2 місяці тому +31

    I've got a Toyota with the 4.7, so I got a million miles to wait for prices to come down

    • @yourchava
      @yourchava 2 місяці тому +2

      lol good one

    • @davidsheets
      @davidsheets 2 місяці тому

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    • @davidhorne2326
      @davidhorne2326 2 місяці тому +2

      137k on my ‘05 4.7! It gets pampered!

  • @BS-yx4kt
    @BS-yx4kt 2 місяці тому +9

    Prices are still obscene. They need more pain. Dont buy. Stay on track and wait.

  • @FunWithCars716
    @FunWithCars716 2 місяці тому +17

    Have been in the dealership world for 25 plus years things are out of control right now with the cost of things. Who can afford it?

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому +1

      This is a car channel, but like you said - it's nearly everything across the board people require to live and have some quality of life.

  • @quackula9190
    @quackula9190 2 місяці тому +54

    Lowering the price of car by a few thousand will do nothing.

  • @dforrest4503
    @dforrest4503 2 місяці тому +11

    I’m so glad things are finally turning to a buyer’s market again, even though prices are so much higher than 4 years ago. I started watching your channel in the pandemic spring of 2020, and you really helped me time getting a great deal in March 2021 right before things got stupid. Cool to see how far you’ve come - congratulations on your success!

  • @radboy707
    @radboy707 2 місяці тому +12

    I love the idea of buying a new car. My Honda CR-V is 9 years old and going strong. I keep it well maintained and clean and have every intention to drive it until the wheels fall off. As long as Car manufacturers and dealers want to run up the cost of a new car they can keep them. My 2016 F-150 was purchased with a total of 16K discounts at the time. Good luck finding anything like that now.

  • @jaygalgano8033
    @jaygalgano8033 2 місяці тому +13

    Pay those insane prices and 7-8% interest on top.... total craziness.. You already lose money the money you drive off the lot and you pay interest on a depreciating asset? Wow.. Wake up people

  • @ppipowerclass
    @ppipowerclass 2 місяці тому +23

    44k for a new car. I paid 45k for my HOUSE in 2019. smh

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 2 місяці тому +1

      Auto manufacturers all want to be luxury brands without the luxury quality and leaving average joes who just want a to and from work car high and dry

  • @Arctic5fox
    @Arctic5fox 2 місяці тому +11

    Thumbnail of this video is misleading. You can't get a Highlander for a good price. Maybe until summer or Christmas season. Lucky if you get a few thousands off by then.
    I'm looking for a hybrid 2021 and you can't get one less than 35k

  • @johncampos1780
    @johncampos1780 2 місяці тому +40

    All they have to do is increase the free maintenance to 3 years, and warranty the engine and tranny to 100k miles. If you they have confidence in their product, there's no reason not to.

    • @1wheeldrive751
      @1wheeldrive751 2 місяці тому +2

      Which, when you come right down to it, they could easily do. Any car built today is far more reliable than they were 30-40 years ago. And considering how much more complex they are, and how superior they are in nearly every way, is quite remarkable. What has happened is certain Asian car companies have gone above and beyond, and now everyone wants that same degree of reliability.

    • @NoCommie
      @NoCommie 2 місяці тому

      @@1wheeldrive751 New cars are impossible to do your own repairs. Im not removing an entire body panel to replace a light bulb, and im not paying hundreds of dollars for a mechanic to do it.

    • @davyl3059
      @davyl3059 2 місяці тому +2

      @@1wheeldrive751 I'd rather have a new Toyota or Honda built 20 years ago than one built this year.

    • @1wheeldrive751
      @1wheeldrive751 2 місяці тому

      @@davyl3059 - you’ll have to let me know how you buy new 20 year old cars.

    • @1wheeldrive751
      @1wheeldrive751 2 місяці тому

      @@NoCommie - new cars don’t even have light bulbs.

  • @patriotdrone9566
    @patriotdrone9566 2 місяці тому +8

    I could easily afford a new car in cash. But zero percent chance I’m flushing good money down the toilet purchasing one now. I’m keep my car with 120k miles that runs fine.

  • @davemcdee9981
    @davemcdee9981 2 місяці тому +11

    2000 to 3000 not enough. Zero % financing and 20 grand off--Maybe!

  • @MapleYum
    @MapleYum 2 місяці тому +9

    Not Toyota. My dealer has a Sienna on the lot, lightly used with 10,000km on it. They are selling it for almost $15,000 Canadian over MSRP. And it will sell, just not to me because I don’t feel like getting screwed.

    • @fewworddotrick
      @fewworddotrick 2 місяці тому

      Bunch of clowns out there somehow think the math will work out paying 60 grand for a hybrid minivan, then trading in 4 or 5 years and getting 15k for it. This has been going on for years now and I'm still flabbergasted.

  • @zachlafond2652
    @zachlafond2652 2 місяці тому +6

    $47K for a pacifica? nope! In 10 years it'll be worth $1500

  • @oldmeadowvalevillager7961
    @oldmeadowvalevillager7961 2 місяці тому +5

    Prices ARE STILL TOO HIGH . .

  • @JohnDoe-wy2py
    @JohnDoe-wy2py 2 місяці тому +5

    I'm in the fortunate position of being able to pay cash for a new vehicle or my credit score is excellent if I decide to go the financing route. I am in the market for a new vehicle BUT I refuse to play these sleazy games the dealerships try. *Market adjustments, dealer add-ons, outrageous fees, etc.* As consumers we have the power and it's time we start exercising that power. In my area there are *Chrysler, Ford, and Nissan dealerships* that are charging fees if the customer doesn't have a trade-in, fees if the customer doesn't arrange financing through the dealership, fees of several thousand dollars for *reconditioning* on a one year-old car, Dealer Doc fees as high as $1000. Doesn't matter if the MSRP is dropped as long as these BS fees are present.

  • @johnperreault116
    @johnperreault116 2 місяці тому +5

    I’m waiting for the total collpse before I’ll buy a new vehicle. My 2001 Forester needs to last another 4-6 months.

  • @vancecost
    @vancecost 2 місяці тому +13

    If MSRP would reduce by
    35% I would seriously think about buying a new
    Mid-Size or Full-Size
    Pickup Truck Loaded.
    But not until then. They are definitely not worth what they are asking for 1 now.

    • @cliffdariff74
      @cliffdariff74 2 місяці тому

      😂😂 35% 😅😅😅😅

    • @vancecost
      @vancecost 2 місяці тому

      @@cliffdariff74 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @rotart12arx3
      @rotart12arx3 2 місяці тому

      Not going to happen.

  • @syedhassan3263
    @syedhassan3263 2 місяці тому +24

    These gents have been predicting dramatic changes in the car market for quite some time. Still waiting

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому +3

      The sad part is , they think this video reflects what they say .

    • @Flocculation
      @Flocculation 2 місяці тому +1

      You aren’t looking at the data. They aren’t saying the “you” will be happy any day now. The momentum is shifting and that is a very big deal. It may. Not save you $10K now. But supply and demand dynamics have shifted. They take the time to show us how with real data. That’s what you need to make informed decisions, but that doesn’t mean they have the power to get you what you think you deserve.

  • @AutoAuctionUSA
    @AutoAuctionUSA 2 місяці тому +1

    This video is spot on! I've been waiting to buy a new car and I'm glad I saw this before pulling the trigger. Sounds like I should wait a little longer so the prices come down even more. Those dealerships are getting desperate! Can't wait to see those end-of-year deals!

  • @bigdog1150
    @bigdog1150 2 місяці тому +7

    I see on your chart that 16% of vehicles are still being sold above MSRP. So since there are still plenty of suckers buying at absurd prices, desperation is still off in the distance. It's gonna come around though.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому +1

      Or, looked at another way, 84% of buyers have made it clear that they're not going to pay MSRP anymore. The party's over and most everyone knows it.

    • @fewworddotrick
      @fewworddotrick 2 місяці тому +1

      I disagree with your view...that just means 84% are still suckers and still probably paying msrp which is wildly inflated. It has always been inflated that's why you could sometimes negotiate well over 10k off a full size truck. I wonder if all the suckers paying msrp now have always bent over and paid msrp. Once I decide on a vehicle I'll go anywhere in the country to get the right deal. $500 plane ticket can save you sometimes $5k over whatever deal you can get locally.

  • @geoffreykeating8172
    @geoffreykeating8172 2 місяці тому +6

    It's impossible for dealers to lower prices enough , because of high interest rates , declare bankruptcy now

  • @fewworddotrick
    @fewworddotrick 2 місяці тому +4

    Local dealer has a nee 2025 Tacoma (cloth seats not sure in trim) its priced right at $50k msrp. You gotta be kidding me. Tundras and sequoias priced 70-80k msrp. Siennas over 50k msrp. It's not just ford, toyota is going insane too. I don't care if it's a toyota or not that's just pathetic.

  • @wadeyorke8144
    @wadeyorke8144 2 місяці тому +3

    Your headline 'Sales are Declining Fast,' but that not's the case with most OEM's if you look at official Q1 sales numbers. Price reductions do not necessarily mean declining sales.

  • @bradleyanderson4315
    @bradleyanderson4315 2 місяці тому +5

    It's called about 30 plus percent real inflation in the past 3 years combined with high interest rates.

  • @23billd
    @23billd 2 місяці тому +6

    Looking at these videos wrt new car pricing just motivates me more and more to make my existing, paid off car last forever. I think my existing car might be my final car.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому +1

      I've convinced myself of the very same thing.

  • @user-io9uu4sf8k
    @user-io9uu4sf8k 2 місяці тому +14

    Not seeing it.

    • @jonathantaylor6926
      @jonathantaylor6926 2 місяці тому +1

      A few years ago my Ford dealer had a gas F250 XLT for just under 80K. You can get that truck now for around 62K. I think 62K is still overpriced but that better than 80 which was insane.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому

      Keep looking, or change the manner in which you're looking. On the used side, I'm beginning to see a lot of improvement in listed/asking prices (for the vehicles/segments I look at).

  • @jockojohn3294
    @jockojohn3294 2 місяці тому +3

    Who in their right mind would think that a $1700 discount on a jacked up $43000 car price, on a constantly depreciating liability, that loses at least 10% driving off the dealers lot, is a "deal"?
    Especially since so many people only look at monthly payments instead of the total cost of the car.....it's just insanity. Couple that with the rising cost of everything and the unknown future cost increases in insurance, food, housing/property tax, new fees and assessments and taxes......The whole auto industry is just a wealth transfer.......

  • @billharris6447
    @billharris6447 2 місяці тому +2

    I am working a deal on a 24 4Runner TRD ORP .So far got them down $2000 off MSRP of 47,130

  • @petero5861
    @petero5861 2 місяці тому +5

    Some moron dealers selling used cars 3 years old saying it’s 10 K below msrp
    im like what? How can u even say that? Its used go by the actual used value

  • @knowthyself690
    @knowthyself690 2 місяці тому +8

    The prices are still too high and the interest rate is too high and the insurance is too high. I believe there needs to be a congressional look into the insurance fleecing for cars and homes. I may be able to afford a car or home, but the insurance is now restrictive.

    • @Daniel-ty2ke
      @Daniel-ty2ke 2 місяці тому +1

      Insurance is going up because the US Insurance market paid out $35,000,000,000 more in claims than it took in in REVENUE! Not profit, not net, gross. And a large part of that was government regulation, particularly CA, that's why everyone is pulling out. On the upside it means everyone else doesn't have to keep footing the bill for Cali being rere once those loses are made up for.

  • @ITALYRS
    @ITALYRS 2 місяці тому +3

    I went to audi to quote me for trading in my lease to lease a new audi. I only have 10k miles on it. They said what im paying is similar to what people are leasing for a toyota corolla now they did not want my car at all despite residual value being low and wanted me to put 10k down still if they took my car. Keeping it now; they have so much inventory so assuming they are hurting right before q1 ends

  • @BigStik2007
    @BigStik2007 2 місяці тому +6

    Just at the dealership and I could hardly find a salesperson. IDK where you are seeing this desperation

    • @berniesmith8163
      @berniesmith8163 2 місяці тому +1

      What make auto ???

    • @racoming1035
      @racoming1035 2 місяці тому +1

      Recently was at 3 different RAM dealers. One of them I walked around for an hour an no one talked to me. Another only had a salesman working remotely. What?

  • @frankmoore159
    @frankmoore159 2 місяці тому +7

    The whole Auto industry took a advantage of people. That’s the bottom line completely took a vantage of everybody and laughed at it like it was a f in joke.

    • @petero5861
      @petero5861 2 місяці тому +2

      Couldn’t agree with you more. I don’t feel bad for these crooks

    • @davidhorne2326
      @davidhorne2326 2 місяці тому +1

      The computer board shortage scam, was a brilliant idea! But it has run its course!

    • @petero5861
      @petero5861 2 місяці тому

      Wow I totally forgot about that one. Holy crap that was such a scheme but it made people fall back for a while

    • @MarzNet256
      @MarzNet256 2 місяці тому

      Yup. Let them squirm.

  • @dc9mm2
    @dc9mm2 2 місяці тому +6

    Well as you guys showed prices in the last few years went up 20 to 30 percent. So they are cutting prices 10 percent? BIG deal. Still 20 percent higher. Now inflation went up in the same period 10 percent? So another 10 percent price cut needed to get back 3 years ago pricing.

  • @frankmoore159
    @frankmoore159 2 місяці тому +5

    Your pops didn’t have a Covid to deal with when he was selling vehicles. It was a whole different world then Zach also what we’re dealing with now is way over inventory. How are they supposed to perfect that uncle J. Powell has raised the interest rate so high that it almost makes it impossible to buy a vehicle at 10% interest. Do you have no choice but the lower the prices if they want to sell one we’re in a crisis man inflation is through the roof. It’s totally unacceptable to pay $50,000 for an average vehicle. Nobody could do that you know 70% of the people live week the week so you’re selling vehicles to 30% of the country. How many vehicles do you need?

    • @petero5861
      @petero5861 2 місяці тому

      Covid to deal with my ass. Ray would have sold more cars then most and would t take advantage of people like they did

  • @King_leo
    @King_leo 2 місяці тому +5

    I have not had a car payment for 23 years. They keep you poor. I will get to retire very early because I had no car payment

    • @brianp5958
      @brianp5958 Місяць тому

      What kind of car do you drive?

  • @apexsealcoatings7379
    @apexsealcoatings7379 2 місяці тому

    Hello guys. I just stumbled on your channel. A lot of info for and a little overwhelmed, but i like it. Any advice and or info on buying a 24 GT 5.0 convertible? Good time or bad time to buy & will there be incentives? Thanks

  • @paulh1745
    @paulh1745 2 місяці тому +10

    The problem with Ray and Zach is they are too close to the auto industry to realize that the buying public needs price relief in the range of 20 to 25%. Anything less than that isn’t gonna do it people just can’t afford it.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому +6

      We've gone from $20-30k price tags and $250-$300 mo. payments to $35-45k price tags and an avg. payment of $700 per month. It's a different solar system that many/most cannot or will not live in.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому

      Plus , higher Insurance and APR's .@@NVRAMboi

    • @MarzNet256
      @MarzNet256 2 місяці тому

      Exactly! It's gotta be 20-25% off if they want to sell.

  • @mikealchin525
    @mikealchin525 2 місяці тому +5

    Simply reduce the price and interest rates

  • @fewworddotrick
    @fewworddotrick 2 місяці тому +2

    I've been waiting a year to buy a sienna and based on the stupidity by toyota I bought a 2008 prius with 100k miles. I can wait this out several years if needed. I'm not gonna be a sucker paying over 60k for a minivan that doesn't even come with a spare tire. I'll buy one when they're begging people to take them

  • @tazzel2699
    @tazzel2699 2 місяці тому +7

    Naw. Couple of thousand off not going to do it

    • @BlessYourHeart254
      @BlessYourHeart254 2 місяці тому +1

      Nope won’t even pay the tax on any vehicle

  • @ArticulateArena
    @ArticulateArena 2 місяці тому +5

    Yet the prices keep rising in upstate ny. Trax 1rs used to be 22k now its 26k

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi 2 місяці тому

      Nationwide: 13,499 2024 TRAX available/on lots*. Listed/asking prices range from $18495.00 (LS trim) to $32,695.00 (TRAX-active and RS). They're out there (outside of "upstate NY"). Consider test driving a Subaru CrossTrek (base or "premium" trims in that price range). *brandX automotive website search.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому

      That is Civic , Corolla and Subaru $$ ... Not me !!

  • @Blessing927NJ
    @Blessing927NJ Місяць тому

    What an Awesome video! I am looking to buy a Forester base model and has been in communication with 3 dealers and none of them has been willing to bring their price down close to MSRP at all. Not even any closer from their offering price. Perhaps, it is a time to look into another car brand which has more struggle with inventory! Thank you so much for posting this video. You guys have completely changed my car buying process!

    • @samkitty5894
      @samkitty5894 Місяць тому

      Subarus come with CVT transmissions, like most new cars. You don't want that. Trust me.

  • @TheNarodowy
    @TheNarodowy 15 днів тому

    There is still a Toyota hybrid cars shortage. Dealers informed me that either I had to wait 3-4 months or pay market adjustment. The market adjustments are not advertised so it means they are added at the time of signing a contract. Every hybrid in production is pre-sold.

  • @batsonelectronics
    @batsonelectronics 2 місяці тому +1

    until a Dodge Hornet is 24K, everything in their lineup is 30-50% over priced. ( they are 32K and up here in SC. )

  • @JS-ug5we
    @JS-ug5we 2 місяці тому +1

    You guys are great!

  • @aletia4189
    @aletia4189 2 місяці тому

    I am currently negotiating a lease with BMW and I’ve watched your lease fee video, but I didn’t see these mentioned: disposition fee, perch option LEV fee,F&I prod/acq fee. are these line items all bogus? Many thanks in advance love the channel.

  • @TheAverageFisherman99
    @TheAverageFisherman99 2 місяці тому +5

    Obviously not desperate enough to lower prices 25-30%.

  • @DavidDLee
    @DavidDLee 2 місяці тому +4

    As long as you are not looking to buy a Toyota, Honda, Kia or even a Chevy.

  • @stevedawson3863
    @stevedawson3863 2 місяці тому

    Keep the good news coming!!!

  • @rocinblues
    @rocinblues 2 місяці тому +2

    These reductions are not very impressive. Last month RAM and Ford held a "truck month" , and on the trucks they were able to go $8K+ under dealer invoice. It makes no sense to only lower a mini van or a jeep $2k, that is laughable. The only shortage these dealers currently face are customers.

  • @matthorndrums
    @matthorndrums 2 місяці тому

    Looking to get into one of the new mustang GT's. Do you think these types of cars will end up with incentives after memorial day as well? Or do the "enthusiast" cars move fast enough to where they dont need incentives?

  • @tonetownusa
    @tonetownusa 2 місяці тому

    We bought a 2024 honda crv hybrid for invoice yesterday. In and out of dealership in 2 hours. Dealer I was at was moving metal quick yesterday

  • @bobd7384
    @bobd7384 2 місяці тому +3

    Dealers are reaping what they have sown. They need to drop by 75%

  • @truckyeah7800
    @truckyeah7800 Місяць тому

    I visited a dealership in Canada last month and every salesperson was busy with a customer. I am not sure where people are getting the money from.

  • @edbern7387
    @edbern7387 2 місяці тому +2

    Price isn't everything quality and design play a major factor in purchase decisions. There is a major issue with what is being offered to the public, it is without a doubt soul crushing with its mind numbing bland offerings.

  • @Douglas_Stevens
    @Douglas_Stevens 2 місяці тому +2

    They can reposition all they want I'm going to keep driving my 10-year-old Honda Accord . Every time I drive by a dealer I flipped them the bird and laugh . Paying cash for your car is King

  • @nitro_1986
    @nitro_1986 2 місяці тому +1

    Went to several Toyota dealerships in SoCal area looking for deal on 2022 Tundra SR5 and still unable to find any price tag I’m comfortable with. Guess I’ll hold out for July 4th weekend (or Labor Day) to hopefully see better prices.

  • @enriquemunoz7701
    @enriquemunoz7701 2 місяці тому

    When should I look into buying a Toyota Tacoma? Please advise. Thanks

  • @nospamallowed4890
    @nospamallowed4890 2 місяці тому +1

    Is it reasonable to expect an out of the door price (everything - taxes, fees, etc - included) equal to MSRP?

  • @dalevalenti6552
    @dalevalenti6552 2 місяці тому +2

    Since retiring I have started driving for a local Chrysler dealer picking up and delivering vehicles and customers. I own a 2016 Chrysler 300 I bought from them in 2016 and a while ago they had a big sales drive, wanting me to trade up to a new or newer one. When sitting in a 2022 model, there is no difference between it and mine, the outside is the same too. So why would I pay $37000 for essentially a new set of tires? That has to be part of why there are so many unsold 300s.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому

      How many miles on your 300 , issues ?

    • @dalevalenti6552
      @dalevalenti6552 2 місяці тому

      @@indycharlie 144000 all interstate. I live in the country right at an onramp to I 35. The shop has maintained it like new for me. I haven't even had to put front brake pads on it since they are all highway. It has never had an issue and shows 29.5 MPG as it's lifetime average. It can go over 525 miles on a tank. When I drive newer 300's I always compare them to mine and they are never better than mine. I drove a 2022 300 for almost 1400 miles a few weeks ago and it only got 418 miles per fill up, the only difference being the 22 had larger tires. I have no rust or body damage because I have kept it garaged and polished. My situation may be different but I believe there is not enough upside for me, even if I had to re-power mine I would be better to keep it.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому

      I " assume " :D you meant . "There IS enough upside for me " in the last sentence . Sounds like you did good ! I have a 22 truck but as a 73 Y.O. I am looking for a nice ride for the road . I have bought Toyota's since 82 , but I have heard generally good things about the 300 . I might look into one . Thanks for the reply . @@dalevalenti6552

  • @williampmcd8548
    @williampmcd8548 2 місяці тому

    Hi Ray, consider using Warm White LED lights, or similar incandescent.

  • @thomasmerzbacher7997
    @thomasmerzbacher7997 2 місяці тому

    What is the used car price savings as a percentage by holding off until June? Does this apply to in demand cars like the RAV4 Hybrid?

  • @jeteye97
    @jeteye97 2 місяці тому +1

    Interest rates are high. Prices are high.
    That’s all what it is. They’re building very few of what I’m seeking and the competition is high for a full-size, quiet, comfortable, reliable sedan with good performance and handling for under $40k.

  • @DH-jt1bw
    @DH-jt1bw 2 місяці тому +1

    I decided to go for a used v6 Highlander limited with only 80K miles on it.
    A one owner, in excellent condition for a little over 20k out the door. In my book this is a more than a 50% discount with a lot of miles left on this suv. New this SUV was over 42K MSRP in 2014, and when you consider inflation since 2014 it's even a much better deal.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 2 місяці тому

      Good price , as long as the service record is good .

  • @canuckwineguy
    @canuckwineguy 2 місяці тому

    What about used cars available from 2020 to 2023, are those prices coming down too? Great information on your videos!

  • @user-sr5fv8vs4s
    @user-sr5fv8vs4s 2 місяці тому

    Ran across an interesting Ford Lightning incentive ad recently. It appeared to offer current Tesla owners an additional $1500 off the price of a new Ford Lightning! It didn't say that you had to trade in your Tesla just be an owner. Wish I would have paid more attention to it so I could relocate the ad and make sure of what I think I saw. If true, that's an interesting way to tap into the largest EV community if they are needing a truck and either don't like the Cybertruck or not willing to wait a few years!

  • @daniel77455
    @daniel77455 2 місяці тому

    Not seeing it at Audi. I’m looking to buy a new Q7 and my dealer’s website has plenty of 2024 vehicles and 2025 models in transit. Unfortunately they are still pricing at MSRP plus no value/high margin dealer add-ons.

  • @Mike-wj1bv
    @Mike-wj1bv 2 місяці тому

    Any news for Volkswagen? (2024 Atlas Cross Sport) is it good to buy now?

  • @ocasioangel
    @ocasioangel 2 місяці тому +1

    Prices are still too high. About 30% too high

  • @joenida2253
    @joenida2253 2 місяці тому +2

    Still can't justify paying those reduced prices

  • @calebcicero7727
    @calebcicero7727 2 місяці тому

    the problem isnt even the price of vehicle for me ist the fact you end up adding an extra 3-4k for fees and taxes on top

  • @pmroveda
    @pmroveda 2 місяці тому

    How can I unload my leased Jeep GCL, 2023, 5,000 miles. My husband has such a hard time getting into it.

  • @briansmyth905
    @briansmyth905 2 місяці тому

    A buyer's market for a new car, unless you are looking at a Toyota/Lexus or even Subaru, which are still on the way up. In Canada a mid-level Lexus model MSRP was just raised this week (April 2024) by $1800! With increases with other models likely to come.

  • @twaters4827
    @twaters4827 2 місяці тому

    How much repositioning is possible when considering increasing labor costs?

  • @carloszuniga7064
    @carloszuniga7064 2 місяці тому +2

    Word of the day 'REALITY'

  • @Bonkai91
    @Bonkai91 2 місяці тому

    I've been wanting to get a used car for months now, but I see minor changes in the market. Still not a buyers market unfortunately.

  • @george2pak
    @george2pak 2 місяці тому +1

    Only Toyota doesn't seem to have a problem. Try finding to buy a Sienna. Some dealerships have stopped taking cash advance since they can't get any Sienna's.

  • @ItsEverythingElse
    @ItsEverythingElse 2 місяці тому

    A Honda dealer's lot near me is overflowing. Haven't seen it that full since pre-Cov**

  • @jddonahue2
    @jddonahue2 2 місяці тому

    My brother in law just leased a Honda. His friend is a friend of the honda dealership owner. he was told that car manufacturers are "Fronting" the cars to dealers for 45 days. In other words: the dealer doesn't start paying for the car and is not on their floor plan for 45 days. Anyone else hear this? This Honda dealer is in central NJ and claims sales are slow but they are moving inventory. MSRP for the cars, no discount, no markups.

  • @fumanpoo4725
    @fumanpoo4725 2 місяці тому +1

    So why are prices still too high?

  • @sc2603
    @sc2603 2 місяці тому +2

    They can Rot Overpriced junk They can thank the unions and the fed … 18% off on a Jeep that’s marked up 48% 😂

  • @baronofgreymatter14
    @baronofgreymatter14 2 місяці тому +3

    Fortunately under 44k come on..seriously?