This mower is a beast. Someone tossed one out 10 yrs ago and left a sign that it wouldn't start. I rescued him and found the only thing wrong was the supply valve from the tank was shut off! Best mower I have ever owned and POWERFUL.
I know people are so stupid I bought an hrb216 about 15 years ago 50 dollars and I use that thing commercially still to this very day and it runs like it does the day I bought it the lawn mower I have is a 1995 model yes and the one that this man has is a late 80s early 90s back when Honda was truly on top of their game that all changed in the early 2000s upwards
I had one left behind by a tenant that would barely fire. The automatic choke engines have some sort of thermal wax plug thingies on the carburetor that cost maybe twelve bucks. In addition, the carbs have all kinds of gaskets and thimagagoos . The solution for being able to assemble a Honda carb is to borrow or buy studs from a horizontal Honda engine and the carb is easy to assemble and test properly. Those old original Honda carbs are good ones if you understand the auto chokes and how to easily assemble them with the assembly studs which are available as a set or just get them from an old broken horizontal engine. I know this doesn't apply to this project, but I am sure that Bruce has or will work on one of the auto chokes some day. Like the channel . God bless
You did it again, provided me with more possible solutions to my immediate problem. A Kohler 6.75 which ran poorly when I retrieved it, at the shop not at all, arrgh. Thanks for the new tips. Narragansett Bay
Bruce's Shop I’m guessing they weren’t cared for very well. I have always made sure the air filter and housing is cleaned out. Now that I’ve been studying small engine work for three months I’ve learned that not making sure everything that goes into the cylinder is as clean as possible does tend to cause wear in that area leading to oil burning excessively (at the very least).
Odd to see that much wrong with a Honda but it sounds pretty sweet now. By the looks of that shroud, it was a well used machine so it is okay that it needs a tune-up. Thanks Bruce.
You are correct on the newer and the chonda carbs running lean outta the box, when Twisted V Twin and Puller Bear Ed were here at my house yesterday someone called Mark and posed a question to him Both Me and Ed said at the same time it's running running lean,,........
Hey Bruce if I had a dollar for everytime you drop something I would have a lot of extra $$$ LOL. I had days I drop stuff all day long but other days I don't. Keep up the good work Bruce
Out of all the channels I watch on small engine repair, you seem to be the one tech that bends, tweaks, stretches, compresses, attachment points that forces you to resort to changing the intended design. You eventually get it to run, but I don't think I would have much confidence in your approach and long term product reliability. Changing the jet size here is case in point.
I have been doing this for many years. Regarding the jetting of the carbs most small engine mechanics do it now as carb orifices have gotten so small most newer engines surge when not under load. As well all of the machine i repair get a warranty and I tell them to bring it back and I will make it right.
How's she goin'? Nice fix Bruce. Once again you show that if you aren't satisfied you won't let it go. I like to see that!! Interesting when you state that new carbs run leaner. I installed a new carb on my new to me MTD and it surges terrible at high speed. I wonder if I were to increase the main jet if that would help. We'll see. Thanks for posting this and Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mrs P!!!
First is it a Honda style carb? If so There is the main jet you know and there is the idle jet under the idle adjustment (plastic black screw). That can be enlarged a SMALL amount too.
@@BrucesShop No it's not a Honda type carb and the High Speed jet looks to be inaccessible. I ordered another carb with a high speed jet adjustment and I'm waiting for that to come in. Once it shows up I'll install it and then have a look at this carb to see if I can access the high speed jet. But I don't want to try right now in case I ruin the carb.
At Eliminator Performance we also use K100S+ and have been using it for going on 9 years. We actually have 3 year old treated fuel with the K100+ all stored in the NO SPILL fuel tanks and it looks just like fresh fuel bought today likely because these fuel tanks have no venting. Dosage to eliminate water is actually equal parts. Use ethanol free fuel only like we do and you will have no issues.
We also test our fuel when purchased from Canadian Tire and so far 91 Octane has had zero ethanol. Years ago we only used their 87 since it was ethanol free at that time.
Hi Bruce. Not going to give you heck about the prop stick. I was wondering how it would have gotten so out of wack but then you said its had work done to it a couple times. That leads to to many fingers fiddling with it eh. She runs smooth now that the master worked on it
My tip: before adjusting all the springs, plates, etc, go back and check the choke rod was not bent when taking off the carb. Looks like it is bent at 21:44. Often happens.
Hey Bruce, You must be an early riser! A bit confused on the jet. Did you drill it out? I worked on a machine just like that in the summer. The whole time, I kept telling myself, don’t break anything, you never find replacement parts! I used to work with a guy named Jack and he was an amateur pilot. Always found that funny!
Can anyone help me with where the breather tube off the air filter housing connects to on the engine side? Mines come undone and i can't for the life of me figure out where it connects. I've got the 1986 HR214 and it still runs great but when i engage the the blade it kills. Usually i just clean the carburator and it's fine but i just noticed the breather tube isn't connected to wherever it's supposed to be.
So, could the customer have used gasoline with ethanol and then the water caused it to gum up? Coach us Bruce on proper winterization of yard equipment. Beautiful close-ups Bruce!
just google Carb for HRA214 and you will get this. I am trying to train folks as I am getting too busy with almost 40,000 subs now sorry www.google.com/search?q=carb+for+honda+hra214&rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA740CA740&oq=carb+for+honda+hra214&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30.9079j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
well in the last 2 days ive ran into 2 small engine i cant seem to fix in fact one i made worse..i got them well the leaf blower for free so theyre not customers..i dont do this for money not yet anyway..i did a couple and both are ok and sold soem ive repaired i do it as a hobby . eveyr lawnmower ive got to work but this leaf blower for wahatever reason doesnt want to turn over i cleaned the carberator and everything and still nothing..if i cake it in starter fluid it'll turn over and die...i cleaned it pretty good i think but maybe i overlooked soemthing..i hate to throw it out seeing as how it worked before when i picked it up but the pull start messed up and im thinking thats why the guy threw it out so i manage to fix that..i think anyway..it pulls but theres a bit of slack after the pull it doesnt coil up fully idk if thats a problem..im new to this so im still learning..teh other one is a weed eater i bought for 15 bucks just to mess around and test my skills and it pulls good but doesnt start either the gas tank i think is too dirty and i cant get in there to clean it out and to buy parts it just seems like it'd be a waste not worht the money but maybe i will just to prove i can fix it idk. there'll be others tbh these are the first 2 i ran into that i havent been able to fix. im still new i just have a feeling im overlooking soemthing or soemthing...so im about 8 for 10
Hi Bruce from wpg. I own five of those mowers best in the world!! they are susceptible to the idle jet being plugged easily. Also I noticed the cable was off at the handle not sure if that would do it. cheers brother!
Hi Bruce, Ive got same honda but my one a bit smoke when starts after few minutes smoke disappear!!! Dont know what wrong,honda always starts with first pull!!!! Nice video 😉 greetings from Poland
Bruce can you tell us how much you increased the jet size to stop the surging? Good video just wondering about the 3500 to 3600 rpm specification we normally set all our small engines to a maximum of 3150 rpm.
I thought about that higher rpm speed, too. But 3150 (actually 2950- 3100 in my mower owner's manual & called "Maximum Governed "Speed") is the recommendation for the more recent GCV160's & 190's. However, Bruce's mower has a GXV120 (late 90's; early 2000's). Maybe that's the reason for the higher rpm. I checked the GXV120 owner's manual online & it only references a speed of 2000 +/- 150 RPM with the "throttle lever in the LO position;" that is, at idle. Interestingly, the GCV160 engine manual, as opposed to the mower manual, only references an idle speed (no mention of a max speed) of 1,450 +/- 150 RPM. Maybe that explains why the older engines can handle higher rpm than the newer one's. In any case, Honda's are great mowers/engines but they are anything but clear-cut.
@@jjparody8257 Normally when i have checked engine specifications the higher rpm's are what has been used to develop the torque rating of the engine. I would also think that a higher rpm on an engine would not last as long as one running in the 3100 rpm area. But you a absolutely correct Honda engines are the best.
Thank you for all the teaching in this video! This old dog (thumbnail notwithstanding) learned several new tricks. One question: if the issues with the engine were all carb-related, why do you think the engine wouldn't start at the beginning when you gave it a shot of go juice?
WHY do you folks keep gas in a mower over the winter or even in a gas can???run dry or drain and toss it in the car/truck. Illogical frugality for a pint of gas...
This mower is a beast. Someone tossed one out 10 yrs ago and left a sign that it wouldn't start. I rescued him and found the only thing wrong was the supply valve from the tank was shut off! Best mower I have ever owned and POWERFUL.
Right and tey are not huge displacement mowers.
I know people are so stupid I bought an hrb216 about 15 years ago 50 dollars and I use that thing commercially still to this very day and it runs like it does the day I bought it the lawn mower I have is a 1995 model yes and the one that this man has is a late 80s early 90s back when Honda was truly on top of their game that all changed in the early 2000s upwards
Breakfast with Bruce! Watched you all the way to work. Well, I safely listened, and watched during red lights. Have a great day!
Wow Thanks for listening.
Last time I herd the “Hi Jack, airport “ joke was on Johnny Carson. Thanks for the tip on the JIS screws.
You may be right
I love that joke. My Dad was John, but always went by Jack. I used that one 1,000s of times.
@@haneyoakie14 The neighbour is a Jack
Bruce you are the Carburetor Master!! Have a great weekend!!
Thanks 👍 I sometimes wonder how many have I done??
I had one left behind by a tenant that would barely fire. The automatic choke engines have some sort of thermal wax plug thingies on the carburetor that cost maybe twelve bucks. In addition, the carbs have all kinds of gaskets and thimagagoos .
The solution for being able to assemble a Honda carb is to borrow or buy studs from a horizontal Honda engine and the carb is easy to assemble and test properly.
Those old original Honda carbs are good ones if you understand the auto chokes and how to easily assemble them with the assembly studs which are available as a set or just get them from an old broken horizontal engine. I know this doesn't apply to this project, but I am sure that Bruce has or will work on one of the auto chokes some day. Like the channel . God bless
Yes I have had a lot come it. Thanks for the great comment
Oh, yes... It's so nice to see one like that (and no smoke). Kudos for getting it running again, Mr. Pender.
You are right about the smoke. Good point.
great job ol buddy, smoothed it right out now its running just like it should.
Thanks 👍
You did it again, provided me with more possible solutions to my immediate problem. A Kohler 6.75 which ran poorly when I retrieved it, at the shop not at all, arrgh. Thanks for the new tips. Narragansett Bay
Good luck
I inherited one of these from my in-laws when they retired to Florida. Great mower and still going strong. Burns no oil.
Well that is rare Most of the older ones smoke.
Bruce's Shop I’m guessing they weren’t cared for very well. I have always made sure the air filter and housing is cleaned out. Now that I’ve been studying small engine work for three months I’ve learned that not making sure everything that goes into the cylinder is as clean as possible does tend to cause wear in that area leading to oil burning excessively (at the very least).
Nice to see a honda 214 right there in good shape still
Yes indeed!
Nice work the mystery machine, Bruce ! 👍🙂
Thanks 👍
Good work.
Many many thanks
Odd to see that much wrong with a Honda but it sounds pretty sweet now. By the looks of that shroud, it was a well used machine so it is okay that it needs a tune-up. Thanks Bruce.
Thanks a lot Steve
Happy Thanksgiving.
You are up late
Man how did I miss this one.. love the old Hondas.. I would say someone has been in fiddling.. it was so far off being right.. good job Bruce.. LUNCH
You are a busy man sir.
You are correct on the newer and the chonda carbs running lean outta the box, when Twisted V Twin and Puller Bear Ed were here at my house yesterday someone called Mark and posed a question to him Both Me and Ed said at the same time it's running running lean,,........
Right on
Hey Bruce if I had a dollar for everytime you drop something I would have a lot of extra $$$ LOL. I had days I drop stuff all day long but other days I don't. Keep up the good work Bruce
I am the same. Older hands in my case.
Out of all the channels I watch on small engine repair, you seem to be the one tech that bends, tweaks, stretches, compresses, attachment points that forces you to resort to changing the intended design. You eventually get it to run, but I don't think I would have much confidence in your approach and long term product reliability. Changing the jet size here is case in point.
I have been doing this for many years. Regarding the jetting of the carbs most small engine mechanics do it now as carb orifices have gotten so small most newer engines surge when not under load.
As well all of the machine i repair get a warranty and I tell them to bring it back and I will make it right.
@@BrucesShop Fair enough if you stand by your repair with warranty.
@@pville5548 Thanks
How's she goin'? Nice fix Bruce. Once again you show that if you aren't satisfied you won't let it go. I like to see that!! Interesting when you state that new carbs run leaner. I installed a new carb on my new to me MTD and it surges terrible at high speed. I wonder if I were to increase the main jet if that would help. We'll see. Thanks for posting this and Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mrs P!!!
First is it a Honda style carb? If so There is the main jet you know and there is the idle jet under the idle adjustment (plastic black screw). That can be enlarged a SMALL amount too.
@@BrucesShop No it's not a Honda type carb and the High Speed jet looks to be inaccessible. I ordered another carb with a high speed jet adjustment and I'm waiting for that to come in. Once it shows up I'll install it and then have a look at this carb to see if I can access the high speed jet. But I don't want to try right now in case I ruin the carb.
Nice fix Bruce and a cool rpm tool
Sure is
Great video sir i like honda lawnmowers alot
Me too but the amount og gaskets on the carbs is annoying.
I have ground the sharp tip off regular no.2 Phillips did a little shaping and got them 2 fit the JIS screws better
Well if anyone could do it it would be you,
Hr214 and hr215 best quality mowers honda ever made
They are great.
K100 gas treatment is great for water in gas issues. I use it in all my equipment, Your buddy Donyboy73 recommends it as well, thanks for the vid👍👍
At Eliminator Performance we also use K100S+ and have been using it for going on 9 years. We actually have 3 year old treated fuel with the K100+ all stored in the NO SPILL fuel tanks and it looks just like fresh fuel bought today likely because these fuel tanks have no venting. Dosage to eliminate water is actually equal parts. Use ethanol free fuel only like we do and you will have no issues.
@@waynestefinashen239 Right I use ethanol free fuel and since I do that now I don't use any additives. I test every batch of fuel.
We also test our fuel when purchased from Canadian Tire and so far 91 Octane has had zero ethanol. Years ago we only used their 87 since it was ethanol free at that time.
@@waynestefinashen239 Right I can still get 87. I am lucky. The Co-op
"JACK"-Jack is back 😜👍😎
Thanks for watching.
Hi Bruce. Not going to give you heck about the prop stick. I was wondering how it would have gotten so out of wack but then you said its had work done to it a couple times. That leads to to many fingers fiddling with it eh. She runs smooth now that the master worked on it
Yes I did not know any history. A co-workers --neighbour's --brothers mower. LOL
Awesome idea on the vac test for the needle and seat Bruce!!!!
Thanks Bill. My mity-vac is a great little tool.
Nice mower...👍
Thanks 👍
My tip: before adjusting all the springs, plates, etc, go back and check the choke rod was not bent when taking off the carb. Looks like it is bent at 21:44. Often happens.
It may be.
@@BrucesShop I just had one that wouldn't idle correctly due to a bent linkage. That's why it caught my eye.
ua-cam.com/video/NTx8cBKFNG0/v-deo.html
@@berardia4 Thanks. A lot of folks tinker with them when it is a dirty carb. By the time I get them are are diddled too much.
Hey Bruce,
You must be an early riser!
A bit confused on the jet. Did you drill it out? I worked on a machine just like that in the summer. The whole time, I kept telling myself, don’t break anything, you never find replacement parts!
I used to work with a guy named Jack and he was an amateur pilot. Always found that funny!
I just reamed it hard with a welding tip torch.
@@BrucesShop 👍👍👍
I think the JIS screwdriver fits the regular Phillips than the Phillips does!
Me too
Can anyone help me with where the breather tube off the air filter housing connects to on the engine side? Mines come undone and i can't for the life of me figure out where it connects. I've got the 1986 HR214 and it still runs great but when i engage the the blade it kills. Usually i just clean the carburator and it's fine but i just noticed the breather tube isn't connected to wherever it's supposed to be.
In this video right here starting at spot 21:18 (not the above video) ua-cam.com/video/svhv1Cbl6qc/v-deo.html
There is a hole for the vent tube
Its these struggles , so maddening that really help us wantabes ! Thanks for breaking this down and getting to the problem very helpful !
You're so welcome!
how many times does Bruce ask this when the camera is off? "are you guys watching?" ;)
Well the camera is mostly on but it is the battery dying is why i ask myself that but it sounds like i am asking the viewers.
Great video,I notice the chain on your garage door opener is loose,above your truck,Frank will not like that.
Funnt thing is just this week i tightened the chain and adjusted the down pressure on the door. Good eye you have there.
So, could the customer have used gasoline with ethanol and then the water caused it to gum up? Coach us Bruce on proper winterization of yard equipment.
Beautiful close-ups Bruce!
Thanks Gary. I might do a video on winterising as i don't use stabil anymore.
I have one these I think it needs a new carb and I can't find one to replace it do you have a number for it and a place to order one?
just google
Carb for HRA214 and you will get this. I am trying to train folks as I am getting too busy with almost 40,000 subs now sorry
www.google.com/search?q=carb+for+honda+hra214&rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA740CA740&oq=carb+for+honda+hra214&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30.9079j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
well in the last 2 days ive ran into 2 small engine i cant seem to fix in fact one i made worse..i got them well the leaf blower for free so theyre not customers..i dont do this for money not yet anyway..i did a couple and both are ok and sold soem ive repaired i do it as a hobby . eveyr lawnmower ive got to work but this leaf blower for wahatever reason doesnt want to turn over i cleaned the carberator and everything and still nothing..if i cake it in starter fluid it'll turn over and die...i cleaned it pretty good i think but maybe i overlooked soemthing..i hate to throw it out seeing as how it worked before when i picked it up but the pull start messed up and im thinking thats why the guy threw it out so i manage to fix that..i think anyway..it pulls but theres a bit of slack after the pull it doesnt coil up fully idk if thats a problem..im new to this so im still learning..teh other one is a weed eater i bought for 15 bucks just to mess around and test my skills and it pulls good but doesnt start either the gas tank i think is too dirty and i cant get in there to clean it out and to buy parts it just seems like it'd be a waste not worht the money but maybe i will just to prove i can fix it idk. there'll be others tbh these are the first 2 i ran into that i havent been able to fix. im still new i just have a feeling im overlooking soemthing or soemthing...so im about 8 for 10
8 out of ten is OK. Just remember the big box machines like weed eaters are hard to fix as there is no quality from the start
Hi Bruce from wpg. I own five of those mowers best in the world!! they are susceptible to the idle jet being plugged easily. Also I noticed the cable was off at the handle not sure if that would do it. cheers brother!
Well with the cable of the off the handle bracket the off switch may have been activated.
good video Bruce
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Bruce,
Ive got same honda but my one a bit smoke when starts after few minutes smoke disappear!!! Dont know what wrong,honda always starts with first pull!!!! Nice video 😉 greetings from Poland
Most of these go this when yhey get older, Not an issue in my mind.
@@BrucesShop thanks Bruce
Bruce can you tell us how much you increased the jet size to stop the surging? Good video just wondering about the 3500 to 3600 rpm specification we normally set all our small engines to a maximum of 3150 rpm.
I thought about that higher rpm speed, too. But 3150 (actually 2950- 3100 in my mower owner's manual & called "Maximum Governed "Speed") is the recommendation for the more recent GCV160's & 190's. However, Bruce's mower has a GXV120 (late 90's; early 2000's). Maybe that's the reason for the higher rpm. I checked the GXV120 owner's manual online & it only references a speed of 2000 +/- 150 RPM with the "throttle lever in the LO position;" that is, at idle. Interestingly, the GCV160 engine manual, as opposed to the mower manual, only references an idle speed (no mention of a max speed) of 1,450 +/- 150 RPM. Maybe that explains why the older engines can handle higher rpm than the newer one's. In any case, Honda's are great mowers/engines but they are anything but clear-cut.
@@jjparody8257 Well rpm speed on Honda's id always a long discussion. Generators have to be even more than 3400 to have 220 volts and 60 hertsz.
@@jjparody8257 Normally when i have checked engine specifications the higher rpm's are what has been used to develop the torque rating of the engine. I would also think that a higher rpm on an engine would not last as long as one running in the 3100 rpm area. But you a absolutely correct Honda engines are the best.
@@waynestefinashen239 I still think the carbs are to complicated.
@@waynestefinashen239 Good day I think this name is familiar Thanks
JIS is an animal all its own 😀
I love the screw drivers
Can you have good spark using the spark tester, but yet a bad spark plug?
Yes. The neon spark testers are not 100 %
The spark tester will test the coil more than the plug.
I was unlearned about Japanese screws.
LOL
Thank you for all the teaching in this video! This old dog (thumbnail notwithstanding) learned several new tricks. One question: if the issues with the engine were all carb-related, why do you think the engine wouldn't start at the beginning when you gave it a shot of go juice?
The cable had popped off the bracket which may have turned off the coil from the off on switch. ???
What size is that jis? I'm seeing 000, 00 , 0 and 1 in a ctc kit of drivers.
Here is what i bought Canadian site
www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07DPSDQMD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Found a 1 2 3 set for 46 fullfilled by Amazon
New Jersey
Alberta Canada
👍👍
Do you have to speak Japanese to tighten the Phillips screw.
Hai
@@BrucesShop Did you ask him if he wanted to sell you the mower Bruce?
@@mgomez5606 Hai
WHY do you folks keep gas in a mower over the winter or even in a gas can???run dry or drain and toss it in the car/truck. Illogical frugality for a pint of gas...
Well gas cans are sealed so there is no evaporation. Leaving them for a longer duration s always a discussion.