I love it! I can see this warship attaching itself to a mobile fortress. I am really sick of the protruding nacelle designs. Federation needs to take a page from Terran Empire design ideas, have fortresses patrol boarders; not science vessels with pistols attached.
Were you inspired by the Darkstar? If so, can we get an AI driven Quantum Torpedo with whom we can talk about the purpose of life and the meaning of existence, or else he´s gonna blow the ship up?
My God...I LOVE IT. No separate Saucer, no Nacelles! It's a single arrowhead design and I'm absolutely enamored, Starfleet should be SO MUCH more like this.
I could see a class like this being developed along the same line of thinking as the Defiant class except a larger version of that same methodology. Something easy and quick to build that required less time and resources than a full fledged modular dual hull design like what we are used to seeing in the Starfleet. I'd like to see a Dreadnought class of this war-era variant.
I really like it because at some point the Federation transitioned from the nacelled designs we're used to, to the more "triangular" ships from the far future such as the Wells Class (Such as the USS Relativity time ship from the 29th century). I'd like to time the Adder is a very, very early concept into that kind of triangular design.
#RetroBadgerGaming... I love the fly bye , that ship is beautiful.. I want one.. lol.. 😍blimey! Well done Captain.. again.. what a battle... yes the Ent F is strong but this ship .. I think my new favorite.. love the design, looks like a large Delta Flyer.. hope it has slipstream ouff... just ad a cloak.. and oh boy.. !!! that was impressive battle.. very nice Captain.. love to see the ship up against others.. just to see.. hmm.. well done! 😊🖖
It does look like a squished Star Destroyer. It's cool the bridge is on deck 2. Reminds me of the Defiant. This ship also reminds me of the ship from the movie Flight Of The Navigator.
@@RetroBadgerGaming yeah it stretched out very similar to how this is stretched out in front. I was born in 1981 so I watched the movie a lot growing up as well. It remains a favorite of mine to this day.
Battle was about 90secs longer than it needed to be. Whilst your skills have improved from the early days you STILL fight in 2 dimensions. A number of phaser arrays would have been added by rolling the ship. You need to remember Q and E are part of your flight controls too....
should've tried it the other way around too. With you manning the Enterprise - F just to see if they're so closely matched that it was down to "the crew" that made the difference.
The shape of this ship kind of looks like a squashed version of the Dauntless. But I get the a little bit of the Intrepid Saucer in there too. And you said this ship has a heavily modified shield generator from the Galaxy line. Good upcycling opportunity with all the Galaxy ships retiring after the Dominion war. No wonder she's so durable. Adder is a very appropriate name. Smol, but packing a devastating offense.
Please do another video featuring this ! This ship design is really interesting and it seems a lot like the defiant style design just taken to the next level of evolution I think this is where Starfleet ships would have evolved anyway talking everything an internalizing them and becoming more arrowhead-shaped it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that this would probably be equipped with a slipstream drive
The Adder is an excellent tactical design. I have never really liked the idea of nacelles so vital to the ship sticking out so unprotected. It leaves Federation and Klingon ships somewhat vulnerable. The few positive aspects of Cardassian ship design is the protection of the warp nacelles by bringing them closer to the ship and giving them substantial support by burying them within the structure of the ship. This design philosophy is reflected in the Defiant Class. Moreover, the shape of the Adder presents some advantages in battle, namely its flatness. It allows for the captain to present the minimal aspect of the ship when attacking with the primary weapon systems of the ship: the torpedo launchers. This is IMMENSELY important because we know well the weakness of several Federation ships that present large aspects when turned to fire torpedoes, like the Galaxy Class, that can often result in the disabling of the forward torpedo launcher. The more minimal aspects the better because it is simply harder to hit the target as one notices. The F's torpedoes were constantly missing because this ship presents a tiny target when facing fore, aft and from either laterally from port, starboard. And, honestly, its maximum aspect from either dorsal or ventral are no bigger than any other Federation design. An outstanding design for a Federation warship.
there are rules as to why star fleet ships are made the way they are, could they do more to protect vulnerable parts more, acourse there's always room for improvement. Though the federation have on average better power sources and shields on average than most powers in they usually deal with so old design practices stick, also the bigger a ship is the smaller of a target the federation bridges are usually. be different if you were talking about the ships the size of connies or smaller, those are HUGE targets on the bigger later ships those are not only the most armored areas they are usually too small to cause real damage with torpedoes since federation ships have decent speed and maneuverability. Also the bridges dont scream HIT me as much as star destroyers or klingon ships do, now those are definetly some issues.
i like this ship a lot, its clear from even tng (picard) multi targeting at any one time was possible long before the F, it should be available on many other models than just select especially on refits to the dominion wars
Excellent, utterly original design! I hope to see stories structured around this battleship class. I would like to know more about its naval architecture such as its dimensions.
One notes, Lord Badger, that this ship presents such minimal aspect from most angles, that it is a champ at evasion with even little effort. By simply waggling the ship a little, you made the F miss a lot of torpedo shots. Clearly, this ship is best at running laterally with its side presented to the enemy when waiting on torpedo reloads and then only turning when the torps are reloaded. Even a minor course correction when the enemy torpedoes were incoming was enough to make them miss. This is the ultimate torpedo dodger.
Greetings Retro. I have The Adder class for Kobayashi Maru but the game crash during the test drive. I will have to go back and give her a shot again. So some people are upset because she looks like a star destroyer? Actually she could pass off for a Mon Calamari ship due to her design shape.
The adder class remind me one my ship drawing it was heavy cruiser when i find what did with my drawing i tell you more about it i haven't seen it in years
I really like this design, it’s not offering up any vulnerability due to any appendages that could be targeted and damaged and resulting in a loss of a critical advantage during battle. A perfect example is the loss of a warp nacelle from a well delivered torpedo! And therefore the loss of the fight ..
I was unawares about the 29th century time travel designs. Also the other designs mentioned. It seems there is more creativity going on in the gaming world then the live action Star Trek! I wonder what Vic Mignona could do with this new material?
I'm just a bit confused about no nacelles. I thought the whole point of having them on pilons was they can't be too close to the ship or it would be destroyed. However I love the design. It's sleek, streamlined and looks badass
@@RetroBadgerGaming so an old trick with this game when you can't warp is to launch a shuttle at the beginning of the battle. If things get rough just intercept the shuttle you launched and it will give you some extra repair time. You could also launch 2 shuttles in different directions and go back and forth between them at intercept speed..
You are trying to repair your aft torpedos so you do that by presenting the aft tubes to enemy fire? If your trying to repair aft weapons then don't turn your stern toward your enemy.
@@MisterMarin I should not need it as this plan is so cunning that the highly decorated Admiral Cunning in charge of the Cunning battle fleet deep in the Cunning sector fighting against the Cunarrites said himself that it was so cunning that he was disappointed he never came up with it.
Dreadful. Doesn't scream UFP. Dimensions are vaguely reminiscent of Kzinti Cruiser hull from the old Star Fleet Battles, just w/o the weapons booms. But really, it looks like silver-plated, up-armored horseshoe crab.
I imagine a massive disc ship but with no body or nacelles . And evenly spaced around the top and the underside of the disc are small indents / docking ports for 8 small 10 person or so sized Enterprise type ships . The ones that dock on the top side dock upside down and the underside dock right side up . When the disc part wants to move somewhere all of the ships move in their docking ports so that their engines are all facing the same way to propel the ship in the direction it wants to go in. During a battle the disc part becomes engulfed in a near impenetrable shield and the docked ships become fighters .
I never understood why Starfleet ships do not have auto targeting. There should be no people at the weapons desk. It should all be done by artificial intelligence, the same type they use for their holograms, and the phasers torpedoes should lock on automatically at any angle with their Technology the way they pilot their ships is very inefficient
Hey I’m the designer of this ship. I’m just happy that it’s getting some air. I am redoing it as a 3D model that I’ll be printing off soon.
I love it!
I can see this warship attaching itself to a mobile fortress. I am really sick of the protruding nacelle designs.
Federation needs to take a page from Terran Empire design ideas, have fortresses patrol boarders; not science vessels with pistols attached.
Amazing 😎👍
Pretty slick. Keep it up
It’s a beauty I’d love to see the interior
Were you inspired by the Darkstar? If so, can we get an AI driven Quantum Torpedo with whom we can talk about the purpose of life and the meaning of existence, or else he´s gonna blow the ship up?
Looks like the Defiant and a Ferengi Marauder did the deed.
I was thinking the defiant and a star destroyer
I got Marauder vibes too from the ass-end of it.
My God...I LOVE IT. No separate Saucer, no Nacelles! It's a single arrowhead design and I'm absolutely enamored, Starfleet should be SO MUCH more like this.
What a capable ship! I knew that Starfleet would adder to the fleet sooner or later.
🤔lol...!!!
LOL!!!!
Interesting design. I like it. I’ve always thought the warp nacelles seemed especially vulnerable.
What a lovely vessel
I could see a class like this being developed along the same line of thinking as the Defiant class except a larger version of that same methodology. Something easy and quick to build that required less time and resources than a full fledged modular dual hull design like what we are used to seeing in the Starfleet. I'd like to see a Dreadnought class of this war-era variant.
I really like it because at some point the Federation transitioned from the nacelled designs we're used to, to the more "triangular" ships from the far future such as the Wells Class (Such as the USS Relativity time ship from the 29th century). I'd like to time the Adder is a very, very early concept into that kind of triangular design.
And then by the 31st century they were using nacelles again
@@keyboardt8276 Technically they weren't, since they didn't have them attached to the ship!😅
@@atomicninjaduck9200 you don't have to have something attached to be using it though
@@keyboardt8276 Then how do you make use of it?
@@atomicninjaduck9200 I mean you use wifi without being attached to the wifi router right
#RetroBadgerGaming... I love the fly bye , that ship is beautiful.. I want one.. lol.. 😍blimey! Well done Captain.. again.. what a battle... yes the Ent F is strong but this ship .. I think my new favorite.. love the design, looks like a large Delta Flyer.. hope it has slipstream ouff... just ad a cloak.. and oh boy.. !!! that was impressive battle.. very nice Captain.. love to see the ship up against others.. just to see.. hmm.. well done! 😊🖖
It does look like a squished Star Destroyer. It's cool the bridge is on deck 2. Reminds me of the Defiant. This ship also reminds me of the ship from the movie Flight Of The Navigator.
Haha. That ship was awesome. Couldn’t the fotn ship change shape? Seen that movie so many times as a kid 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming yeah it stretched out very similar to how this is stretched out in front.
I was born in 1981 so I watched the movie a lot growing up as well. It remains a favorite of mine to this day.
Battle was about 90secs longer than it needed to be. Whilst your skills have improved from the early days you STILL fight in 2 dimensions. A number of phaser arrays would have been added by rolling the ship.
You need to remember Q and E are part of your flight controls too....
Retro badger you should make the Enterprise F the punching bag now 😂 that's pretty funny
should've tried it the other way around too. With you manning the Enterprise - F just to see if they're so closely matched that it was down to "the crew" that made the difference.
The shape of this ship kind of looks like a squashed version of the Dauntless. But I get the a little bit of the Intrepid Saucer in there too.
And you said this ship has a heavily modified shield generator from the Galaxy line. Good upcycling opportunity with all the Galaxy ships retiring after the Dominion war. No wonder she's so durable.
Adder is a very appropriate name. Smol, but packing a devastating offense.
Well I like it, it cuts a beautiful line, and it’s fast.
Please do another video featuring this ! This ship design is really interesting and it seems a lot like the defiant style design just taken to the next level of evolution I think this is where Starfleet ships would have evolved anyway talking everything an internalizing them and becoming more arrowhead-shaped it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that this would probably be equipped with a slipstream drive
The Adder is an excellent tactical design. I have never really liked the idea of nacelles so vital to the ship sticking out so unprotected. It leaves Federation and Klingon ships somewhat vulnerable. The few positive aspects of Cardassian ship design is the protection of the warp nacelles by bringing them closer to the ship and giving them substantial support by burying them within the structure of the ship. This design philosophy is reflected in the Defiant Class. Moreover, the shape of the Adder presents some advantages in battle, namely its flatness. It allows for the captain to present the minimal aspect of the ship when attacking with the primary weapon systems of the ship: the torpedo launchers. This is IMMENSELY important because we know well the weakness of several Federation ships that present large aspects when turned to fire torpedoes, like the Galaxy Class, that can often result in the disabling of the forward torpedo launcher. The more minimal aspects the better because it is simply harder to hit the target as one notices. The F's torpedoes were constantly missing because this ship presents a tiny target when facing fore, aft and from either laterally from port, starboard. And, honestly, its maximum aspect from either dorsal or ventral are no bigger than any other Federation design. An outstanding design for a Federation warship.
there are rules as to why star fleet ships are made the way they are, could they do more to protect vulnerable parts more, acourse there's always room for improvement. Though the federation have on average better power sources and shields on average than most powers in they usually deal with so old design practices stick, also the bigger a ship is the smaller of a target the federation bridges are usually. be different if you were talking about the ships the size of connies or smaller, those are HUGE targets on the bigger later ships those are not only the most armored areas they are usually too small to cause real damage with torpedoes since federation ships have decent speed and maneuverability. Also the bridges dont scream HIT me as much as star destroyers or klingon ships do, now those are definetly some issues.
i like this ship a lot, its clear from even tng (picard) multi targeting at any one time was possible long before the F, it should be available on many other models than just select especially on refits to the dominion wars
I LOVE the Adder class design.
Excellent, utterly original design! I hope to see stories structured around this battleship class. I would like to know more about its naval architecture such as its dimensions.
This is really cool! Is it on Nexus Mods?
One notes, Lord Badger, that this ship presents such minimal aspect from most angles, that it is a champ at evasion with even little effort. By simply waggling the ship a little, you made the F miss a lot of torpedo shots. Clearly, this ship is best at running laterally with its side presented to the enemy when waiting on torpedo reloads and then only turning when the torps are reloaded. Even a minor course correction when the enemy torpedoes were incoming was enough to make them miss. This is the ultimate torpedo dodger.
It is indeed a good torpedo dodger good sir! 🖖
I'd wager it's built with sensor reflection reduction technology, which means simply changing aspect can throw off a missile lock, like an F35...
That was a seriously seriously amazing video I really like the look of the Adder class it's a really cool looking Starship
Fascinating......what's the production year of this vessel please?
2385 🖖. The weapons are very advanced for the time period.
A ship like this is design very well to my eyes doesn’t have any vulnerable points sticking out
Are there any ships from The Orville?
There was a prototype mod in the works for The Orville. I hope we get to see her in action when all the bugs are worked out.
Quantum torpedoes?! Fantastic idea!😊
Greetings Retro.
I have The Adder class for Kobayashi Maru but the game crash during the test drive. I will have to go back and give her a shot again.
So some people are upset because she looks like a star destroyer? Actually she could pass off for a Mon Calamari ship due to her design shape.
Stupid question, What are you using to play this ? What platform ?
Windows 11 on a gaming laptop 🖖
Beautiful design. Love this ship. Was the Adder's sister ship called the USS Multiplier?
Boa and Cobra is my guess but Subtracter works too for a warship.
@@backupplan6058 lol is it based on the ship from elite
I imagine this is what a Federation super yatch would look like for celebrities and famous people in the Federation.
Haha! That's great. Maybe the Doctor will set sail on it? He is after all an accomplished holonovelist!
The adder class remind me one my ship drawing it was heavy cruiser when i find what did with my drawing i tell you more about it i haven't seen it in years
I love the Adder Class.
I really like this design, it’s not offering up any vulnerability due to any appendages that could be targeted and damaged and resulting in a loss of a critical advantage during battle. A perfect example is the loss of a warp nacelle from a well delivered torpedo! And therefore the loss of the fight ..
I like this ship, close battle 🖖
Rather interesting design it is unique
I was unawares about the 29th century time travel designs. Also the other designs mentioned. It seems there is more creativity going on in the gaming world then the live action Star Trek! I wonder what Vic Mignona could do with this new material?
Nice Showcase!
Amazing!!!
I love the adder class more as a rapid strike vessel given it's narrow profile
Looks like something that would have been made for a water planet
Cool primary hull only nice! what other show does it remind ppl of? =O
Star Wars/Flight of the navigator and even Stargate. So quite a few! 🖖
This ship is just wild.
Interesting .
I love this ship actually. I've always hated the nacelles being so exposed, this is a much more logical design.
Why shouldn't bridges be built in to a reinforced area inside the hull?
I'm just a bit confused about no nacelles. I thought the whole point of having them on pilons was they can't be too close to the ship or it would be destroyed. However I love the design. It's sleek, streamlined and looks badass
black adder what is it now Baldrick “i have a cunning ship plan”
Lol! 😂😂 Yes… little do people know, but the reason the bridge is on deck 2 is because balders can’t count 🖖
It’s shaped like the salamander lizard things that Janeway and Paris warp10 evolve into.
I'll just say, 'they put creatures in our bodies'
That was intense! Can you launch shuttles with this mod??
I haven’t tried. Next time I’ll give it a go 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming so an old trick with this game when you can't warp is to launch a shuttle at the beginning of the battle. If things get rough just intercept the shuttle you launched and it will give you some extra repair time. You could also launch 2 shuttles in different directions and go back and forth between them at intercept speed..
The Design reminds me of the Ship "Dark Star" from the same named 1974 Low Budget Movie.
Having destroyed the Odyssey-Class, the Adder-Class becomes the new Enterprise-F!😂🤣
She's a beauty
Warp nacelles don't have a line of sight to each other.
Looks like Star Gate ship Al’kesh
Finally a ship without the bridge exposed.
The more I look at it the more I think it kind of looks like a Starfleet Cruise Ship
Flight of the navigator and Stargate ships
Flight of the navigator was cool. I seem to remember that ship changed shape. Awesome effects for the time. Your right, Stargate as well!
Looks like the a bigger version of the Delta-Flyer
"uss dorito to the rescue"
😂😂😂
It 8s a very cool looking ship🤟🖖
It looks like a flying guitar pick.
😂 I can't unseen it now!
Space frisbee
This ship would be best looking as the Enterprise M or later. A 29th century ship
You are trying to repair your aft torpedos so you do that by presenting the aft tubes to enemy fire? If your trying to repair aft weapons then don't turn your stern toward your enemy.
Not a fan of the ship design, but it's effective.
Paint the hull black and rename it to USS Blackadder. A torpedo tube! A torpedo tube! My kingdom for a torpedo tube! 😛
It’s okay Captain, I have a cunning plan.
@@backupplan6058 Just in case it fails, do you have a backup plan too? 😉
@@MisterMarin I should not need it as this plan is so cunning that the highly decorated Admiral Cunning in charge of the Cunning battle fleet deep in the Cunning sector fighting against the Cunarrites said himself that it was so cunning that he was disappointed he never came up with it.
Lol!!!! Blackadder built her… this and the Leonardo Time Machine. Balders is the 1st officer🤪
@@RetroBadgerGaming And George House is the Chief Medical Officer, yes? 😀
It was originally written that ALL federation starships have 2 nacelles. So NO!
It looks like Destiny, except if it were nice and still had things working.
Dreadful. Doesn't scream UFP. Dimensions are vaguely reminiscent of Kzinti Cruiser hull from the old Star Fleet Battles, just w/o the weapons booms. But really, it looks like silver-plated, up-armored horseshoe crab.
The only thing i dont like is gene made a rule about the nacelles haveing to be able to see each other. Definitely doesn't have that. Its cool though.
I didn't find a BC Remaster version of the Odyssey of Gamefront..
Edit: Nvm, found it!
I imagine a massive disc ship but with no body or nacelles . And evenly spaced around the top and the underside of the disc are small indents / docking ports for 8 small 10 person or so sized Enterprise type ships . The ones that dock on the top side dock upside down and the underside dock right side up . When the disc part wants to move somewhere all of the ships move in their docking ports so that their engines are all facing the same way to propel the ship in the direction it wants to go in. During a battle the disc part becomes engulfed in a near impenetrable shield and the docked ships become fighters .
I never understood why Starfleet ships do not have auto targeting. There should be no people at the weapons desk. It should all be done by artificial intelligence, the same type they use for their holograms, and the phasers torpedoes should lock on automatically at any angle with their Technology the way they pilot their ships is very inefficient
and big arse delta flyer
Star destroyer
😳
Pffft. I love "unconventional" Federation ship designs. Wow do I hate nacelles.
Look like a tadpole
Console free 🐵🙉🙊🙈
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Not a Star Trek design!
Its looks pretty awful, like a section of some other ship that is designed to split into separate parts in battle.
I would really liked it if you took it seriously right from the beginning because now you're just f****** out this ship why why?????
Looks like a Leech.
Not a fan