Given that the canon TV shows seem to be taking more and more ships from Star Trek Online wouldn't be surprised to see the Vesta Class make the leap at some point.
IDK, if they showed the Odyssey class Enterprise only in it's ceremony to be decommissioned un the Picard series, I am afraid that they do the same with other STO starships or simply relegate them to mere cameos.
This is actually a pretty cool ship. Looks like a souped-up Intrepid. I also love the idea of Ezri Dax becoming a captain! Guess I need to track down those novels now
I have a Vesta class in Star Trek Online. It's optimized for speed and 'touring the galaxy'. I thought that was fitting for a exploration ship. To seek out worlds. I then use my Defiant class to turn starships into spacedust...
the Starfleet corps of engineers are not Engineers in the sense of technical designers but rather Engineers in the military sense, meaning personal trained in constructing infrastructure in hazardous enviornments and rapid speed.
It's called an eggplant because the botanist who discovered it saw it in It's early development where it actually looks like an egg. By the time they realized the mature plant looks way different the name already stuck
100%...but my Irish gf and her 2 english friends like to argue the fact because aubergine "sounds better". I have to offer her a potato and her friends some bangers to get then to settle down ;)
@@thalastianjorus Oh, apologies, you misunderstood. Eggplants were not "discovered" in any sense of the modern term. They were domesticated in Asia like .... thousands of years ago. There are references to them in ancient Greece and China, both predating Christ. The idea of a modern botanist or anything that resembles such going "oh! look at this plant! It looks like eggs" is absurd. Hense... *citation needed*
Starfleet uses Cision Promark 4 toothbrushes. They come equipped with tiny Mass Effect fields that break up plaque and massage the gums. They cost about 6,000 credits.
To paraphrase a known saying, everyone at Star Fleet Research and Development Branch were so busy asking if we *could* build the Cision Promark 4 toothbrushes, they forgot to ask if we *should.* Personally, I'm not sure we as a species are ready to handle such advanced dental hygiene technology. It might be too early.
Notably, they utilize the same chroniton sensors that the quantum slipstream uses. Except, instead of predicting the slipstream fluctuations, these predict where you'll be developing cavities!
Adam sure puts his 'spin' on the narrative! So entertaining! I can't wait if you ever do a BSG episode review (Adam=Adama!)! I would love captaining a Luna class myself!
ah the Vesta class not to be confused with the pasta class the Vesta has quantum slipstream drive the Pasta class has overcharged ' extra spicy meatball ' heavy quantum torpedoes
Everybody always wants to see the new stuff. I always do. But we should go back a bit and talk about the ship that trail blazed for Starfleet before the NX class. The Daedalus class has always taken a back seat in it's history especially on this channel. How about some details and some videos on this?
Now this is my kind of ship! I would love to see the Federation do a true carrier type of ship more in line with a modern air craft carrier, or something like a Space Control Ship (SCS) from the table top game Star Fleet Battles!
It is hard to justify a carrier when fighters seem somewhat anemic and fragile in that universe. We saw them explode like Oberth grade firecrackers during the Dominion War offensive, scores of them were lost during the push towards Cardassia Prime. Having said that, however, the damage dealt to pilots lost ratio might make them worth it, we don't have access to that data. It would be really cool to see a Federation carrier deploy waves of warp capable fighters though, like TIE fighters pouring out of an ISD.
@Voltaic Fire i see your point, but if an ecm/eecm system was developed for fighter craft, that scramble most starship targeting systems, giving the fighters more of a chance to score hits.
@@Voltaic_Fire I agree that their portrayal so far has made them look fairly useless, but they were quite good in the Table Top game Starfleet Battles. It's really just about how they are portrayed really. Maybe they hadn't used fighters much until the Dominion war, given that the Federation isn't war like. Possibly after that war, they come up with some new and improved ones. In fact, that could more or less be the premise of the first few episodes of the first season of the show. :) It's like shuttles. They are pretty useless in the early shows. Then they invent runabouts and things like the Delta Flyer.
Man, I love your vids. Not only are they informative, but your sarcastic tone and in additional commentary is just makes watching these videos more fun. Keep up the great work.
I'm hoping that Voyager A is a Vesta class, thus finally making this beauty canon. As for saucer separation, it certainly would explain why there is such an overabundance of impulse engines in separation prime locations. :)
Oh no. Pronunciation in anglais issues Ltcmd Adam Like doctor who "sónt'rans" It's "SONTÁRANS" 🤓😅🖖 😳 How many TRANSPORTERS?? I Hope it does well. I don't quite like the design. 🤔 It's like an intrepid + sovereign or something like that 🤔 I don't like the warp nacelles, that's it. And I don't fancy so many technologies like "slipstream", just say Warp 9.9999 or something, easier for me at least 😬
"Teen, tyne, tane, tone" "Lean, lyne, lane, loan" Had me literally rolling laughing, lol. I was wondering the rest of the video what other "pronunciation" you'd add next XD
Ok.. Was that first min of the vid supposed to be internal or external? The other voices in my head all said hey that's what we sound like before you talk to real people.........
Amazon would love Starfleet,maybe this why Elon musk wants to build a starship,or a fleet of them,and he'll let it drive him around,hopefully he doesn't have. Hal aboard,especially if he gets locked out,but some of us would love the irony.
You make fun of the "super yacht" design the ship has, but in truth, on a deep space/long term exploration ship, one of the things you would want would be luxury, on top of practicality. Obviously the officers would be spending far more time than other counterparts on board the ship, so making it as comfortable as possible would greatly help with morale. The other important thing would be ensuring the damn thing could take a hit and dish one out. The fleet isn't there to back you, so being able to defend yourself would be probably the most vital. This is why I always made my first established base in Mass Effect Andromeda a military one.
We need a new series with a ship that has a quantum slipstream drive with episodes where we explore the Dwarf Galaxies outside the Milky way. The ship should be equipped with all of the weapons, armor and drive systems in Voyager's last episode. The ship could eventually bump into the Kelbans from Andromeda and episodes where we actually have to ally with the Borg and the Dominion to deal with extra galactic races.
That's how we can get the Iconians into Alpha canon. A Fed starship exploring a dwarf galaxy discovers the Iconians. They're not sleeping or anything. Just waiting waiting to receive a signal from the Blue Gill that Starfleet is pacified.
It appears that Star Fleet is totally stuck in a never ending cycle of starship deigns. I think it’s about time for the starship design team to start thinking outside the box and produce some totally new designs.
I love this ship. Thanks for the indepth video:) Btw, since you're taking suggestions Sir, could you look into a ship that may, or may not, fall into ANY canon or extended canon...The Abbe Class, a federation gunboat that existed, supposedly, in the Enterprise A era. Thanks!
Starfleet needs to get realistic and start building absolutely balanced ships between exploration and balls-out War for the line between peace and War is very thin
I've been playing STO since May 2010 and my main's command is the USS Emilia, a Brigid Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer :D The Caelian is a new addition to the line of ships that was added to a Legendary pack a in STO a year or so ago! It's alright I guess, I like the Brigid's seating more though ;)
Aventine, tíne toe oh I love it. Please Mr. Adam, make som more videos you are really making them so much more than educational they are funny and I do agree in everything you said in the video. Besides I would mind having a Vesta class ship 😉
As you mentioned the Burn. Why did the Romulans not take over the Galaxy as they use other tech Ie The artificial quantum singularity, thus they still had the exact same power to and speeds to travel,. totally unaffected by the burn!?!?
Romulan Artificial Quantum Singularity drives still required Dilithium to maintain the reaction. This is seen in technical schematics by Rich Sternbach. - Dom
Specially the science variant is very powerful within the game, if you fit her out correctly that is. It can deal a hefty punch to pretty much anything.
5:35 we know from ST Nemesis (I think it was Nemesis) that Janeway made admiral anyway, sometime before her subspace call to Picard to deliver orders or something. (It was a very small part of the movie.) 7:30 the metric ton is a unit of mass, not volume/space. 8:30 according to the graphic at 5:50, the crew's main recreation center might rightly be called Twelve Forward, and 6:00 it likely comes equipped with advanced drink straw replicators. 12:15 sounds like a certain author of novels really needs a few ... hundred hugs from a friend. Maybe even Sybok-strength hugs. 13:13 I can't help but feel that you have that reversed - as in Ezri first, the Aventine second. The last time we saw Julian and Ezri together on DS9, they were on VERY good terms. Like, "let me see if your spots can be licked off" kind of good terms. 👀 It's a beautiful ship, and I would love to captain one in my mind. Since I don't play the online game or read the novels you cited, your channel is a very good source of Trek info I might never see otherwise. Thank you.
This ship has always intrigued me. I always found it interesting and I think I would command this type of ship. A ship having not only a regular warp drive, but both a quantum AND transwarp drives is rather fascinating. Not surprised this ship would have hull armor like the Defiant. The one cannons is interesting too. I love the Defiant too, probably my second favorite 24th/25th Century Starship design that I like. BTW I loved this video on how it was presented. Adam you had me chuckling a lot especially with how you kept pronouncing the ship's name. UGH what a crappy way for Ezri to die. I dunno if I'll accept that as the books aren't cannon. So unless we actually SEE Ezri die I just won't accept that.
The lack of quantum slipstream post voyager is just stupid... its made very clear in voyager that federation tech could be modified, they came very close to doing it in a few months on Voyager and in the end where only stopped by their lack of resources. Upon return to the federation this should have been achievable within a few years, especially considering they could just build a new vessel with proper tech and modifications
A fun thing to do think about is how Voyager would have fared if she were a different class of ship. I think that the intrepid was fairly well suited, but would being stranded have been easier in a Vesta class, a Galaxy class or an Odyssey class? It could be a good idea to explore. I think the Vesta would have done better. It's a larger ship, with more people on board and far more power. This ship would have mopped the floor with the Khazon, for example. The only downside could be the increased consumption and resources. Obviously, it didn't exist at the time Voyager was lost, but it's interesting to theorise.
I like how you can see Starfleets "OH SHIT" moment with the Borg, and how it influenced ship design(only building pure warships) for a whopping two generations before they went back to building giant warp capable hotels in space.
Vesta is besta. The Starfleet Core of Engineers must have asked the admiralty "So what level of resources do we have to design this new ship?" and they said "yes."
WOW! Its been a year and no Enterprise G! The one from Bridge Commander, not Picard! Seriously, I've been trying to find a detailed account of the Enterprise G and the info is quite scarce! Any chance you might know of a place to look for details about the Enterprise G. I think it was a Excalibur class but I can't even confirm that! Oh well, love your stuff dude, keep on keeping on!
A lot of the exploration science vessels always interested me because of the fact that exploring strange new worlds was always my favorite part of Star Trek since TOS and in turn Voyager and Enterprise were some of my favorites because they got to explore a lot.
I do command a tier six vesta in sto the nx93890c USS qutezecol. She gained the nx tag after the iconian war was refit to the c variant and ceased to exist on paper as she became a covert shop for starfleet
I still think that Starfleet should had used the original Slipstream tech and not the Borg enhanced Quantum Slipstream which negates the stress on the ship's forward hull. The Voyager was initially modified and successfully used the regular slipstream for several hours. 7of9 integrated certain transwarp principles to solve the forward stress to the ship's hull by creating a transwarp tunnelling effect in the quantum realm. Instead of reinforcing or redesigning the hull, she developed the quantum slipstream so that there's a forward wave generated by the main deflector far ahead of the ship so that there's no stress on the physical hull making the regular slipstream several times faster than the regular slipstream by Species116. IMO, the correct deployment for the original slipstream tech is the Voyager-A(Vivace class from SFC3/BridgeCommander/Armada) which is before the novel introduction's of the Vesta/Aventine class. The Vivace class looked like the forward section of the Intrepid class had been expanded by 1/3 more and the main hull by 1/4 more for safely travelling in slipstream plus fixed the variable position nacelles. Anyway don't forget to include the CoAxial Warp too since that didn't include an external modification to the ship's warp engines and maybe rebuild the ship's EPS system so that the Sikarian Trajector could also be used. IMO, the Sikarians are a remnant world of the T'Kon empire like Aldea and Outpost world. The quartz crystal used by the Sikarians for space folding are the similar large crystals seen on the T'Kon Outpost world.
One reliable note is business (i. e. Star Trek) models have a life span of emergence, growth and decline. Where (think hard) do you think you are right now? Subsidiary businesses decline with the main business. That is, advantage shifts partners.
TNG Star Trek writers: we must remove the temptation to use higher and higher warp factors because it cheapens drama. Let's put a limit at 10. Every subsequent Star Trek writer (most of whom worked on TNG as well): so we have warp 9 ships, warp 9.99 ships, warp 9.9999 ships, warp 9.999999999999999...
Treknobabble, the Star Trek specific dialect of Technobabble, is the reason I quit watching Star Trek from VOY until Picard, Lower Decks and SNW. I'm still less than impressed.
Starfleet's ULTIMATE Exploration Ship- - Nope. If it was the Ultimate, it would have 4 nacelles to continually be at warp and not just 2 where you have to stop and cool off.
No way! I dont card what my fellow nerds say. I'll take the comfortable vesta class over the defiant any day. Enjoy your luxury space tank. I'll be sailing some nebula in style and comfort. Same thing in star wars. The Falcon is cool but I'll take the Naboo Royal ship. Better yet gimme an ISD. That bridge us huge. I could put a pool table and couches up there.
I own this ship in STO. Looks pretty from side angle but ugly from up, down or front, play as recon and stealth science ship using masked signature or something something... (I forgot the name) in pvp map. If not from the huge size, slow turn and heavy, I prefer Odyssey, her bridge is unbeatable but feels empty, STO should populate more with npcs.
I have to say I enjoy your videos with your satirical take on ship specifications as only data gets a smile from mundane techno babble. Well done and looking forward to your next showing.
I like this ship. Especially hearing it has quantum slipstream drive. It should have been the ship used in Picard S3. It’s about time the show just made quantum slipstream a canon new commonplace thing instead of warp. Would help explain how they got to the edge of federation space so quickly. Would make things makes more exciting. Warp is so boring now. What was Matalas’s contribution? Really really loud warp barrier sounds, basically saying f-you to anyone that complains about not being able to hear anything in space.
This ship is ugly. So glad the era of the ‘spear ship’ style is passing of season 3 of ST Picard is going to set the trend. Going back to a more movie era style is awesome. As for what ship to do, how about the new Intrepid from ST Picard season 3? It looks great. One of my new favorite designs. Looks like a newer, better Hornet class from the 90’s.
Given that the canon TV shows seem to be taking more and more ships from Star Trek Online wouldn't be surprised to see the Vesta Class make the leap at some point.
They do have a lot of good designs in STO, not only Fed, but Klingon and Romulan.
And most of these ships looks like the
Sovereign and intrepid class ships 😅
@@Blueman2018 That's been the theme for Star Trek for a long time now. From TOS, to TNG, to the new trek.
@mikemullen A quantum (slipstream) leap?
IDK, if they showed the Odyssey class Enterprise only in it's ceremony to be decommissioned un the Picard series, I am afraid that they do the same with other STO starships or simply relegate them to mere cameos.
This guy should've been the narrator of Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy, he'd of been perfect for it.
“Oh, no, I’ve gone cross-eyed…” I always appreciate a good Austin Powers reference lol
This is actually a pretty cool ship. Looks like a souped-up Intrepid. I also love the idea of Ezri Dax becoming a captain! Guess I need to track down those novels now
Ezri sucks
Jadzia forever
@@venture.brothers Ezri makes a very good captain actually - more suited than Jadzia.
I'd love to bond with Ezri Dax.
Same here
I have a Vesta class in Star Trek Online. It's optimized for speed and 'touring the galaxy'. I thought that was fitting for a exploration ship. To seek out worlds. I then use my Defiant class to turn starships into spacedust...
the Starfleet corps of engineers are not Engineers in the sense of technical designers but rather Engineers in the military sense, meaning personal trained in constructing infrastructure in hazardous enviornments and rapid speed.
The hybrid of Sovereign, Galaxy, and Intrepid classes. Superyacht with advanced toothbrushes, to boldly go where no yacht has gone before.
It's called an eggplant because the botanist who discovered it saw it in It's early development where it actually looks like an egg. By the time they realized the mature plant looks way different the name already stuck
[citation needed]
100%...but my Irish gf and her 2 english friends like to argue the fact because aubergine "sounds better". I have to offer her a potato and her friends some bangers to get then to settle down ;)
@@padrescout No citation needed... Egg Plants look like chicken eggs on the ends of it's branches when they're young. They're even white.
@@thalastianjorus Oh, apologies, you misunderstood. Eggplants were not "discovered" in any sense of the modern term. They were domesticated in Asia like .... thousands of years ago. There are references to them in ancient Greece and China, both predating Christ. The idea of a modern botanist or anything that resembles such going "oh! look at this plant! It looks like eggs" is absurd. Hense... *citation needed*
That ship should have been a new Enterprise G! Beautiful design ❤
Sovereign had that super ugly deflector dish, Vesta's is beautiful!
This ship looks like a combination of the Intrepid and Sovereign-classes
With a hint of enterprise B in the ass
Came to say exactly this.
Sovereign class ships HAVE been known to sneak up behind other weaker classes of ships and have their way with them...
Did you even watch the video?
@@Ziplock9000 Yes of course I did this is just my personal opinion.
Starfleet uses Cision Promark 4 toothbrushes. They come equipped with tiny Mass Effect fields that break up plaque and massage the gums. They cost about 6,000 credits.
To paraphrase a known saying, everyone at Star Fleet Research and Development Branch were so busy asking if we *could* build the Cision Promark 4 toothbrushes, they forgot to ask if we *should.*
Personally, I'm not sure we as a species are ready to handle such advanced dental hygiene technology. It might be too early.
Notably, they utilize the same chroniton sensors that the quantum slipstream uses. Except, instead of predicting the slipstream fluctuations, these predict where you'll be developing cavities!
I keep waiting for him to start using "lolilulalo" from metal gear series of games as a name for a ship.
Adam sure puts his 'spin' on the narrative! So entertaining! I can't wait if you ever do a BSG episode review (Adam=Adama!)!
I would love captaining a Luna class myself!
ah the Vesta class not to be confused with the pasta class
the Vesta has quantum slipstream drive
the Pasta class has overcharged ' extra spicy meatball ' heavy quantum torpedoes
Everybody always wants to see the new stuff. I always do. But we should go back a bit and talk about the ship that trail blazed for Starfleet before the NX class. The Daedalus class has always taken a back seat in it's history especially on this channel. How about some details and some videos on this?
Now this is my kind of ship! I would love to see the Federation do a true carrier type of ship more in line with a modern air craft carrier, or something like a Space Control Ship (SCS) from the table top game Star Fleet Battles!
With swarms of Valkyrie fighters from ST Invasion (my favorite Fed fighter)
Only thing that comes to mind is the Jupiter-Class Carrier in Star Trek Online.
It is hard to justify a carrier when fighters seem somewhat anemic and fragile in that universe. We saw them explode like Oberth grade firecrackers during the Dominion War offensive, scores of them were lost during the push towards Cardassia Prime. Having said that, however, the damage dealt to pilots lost ratio might make them worth it, we don't have access to that data. It would be really cool to see a Federation carrier deploy waves of warp capable fighters though, like TIE fighters pouring out of an ISD.
@Voltaic Fire i see your point, but if an ecm/eecm system was developed for fighter craft, that scramble most starship targeting systems, giving the fighters more of a chance to score hits.
@@Voltaic_Fire I agree that their portrayal so far has made them look fairly useless, but they were quite good in the Table Top game Starfleet Battles. It's really just about how they are portrayed really. Maybe they hadn't used fighters much until the Dominion war, given that the Federation isn't war like. Possibly after that war, they come up with some new and improved ones. In fact, that could more or less be the premise of the first few episodes of the first season of the show. :)
It's like shuttles. They are pretty useless in the early shows. Then they invent runabouts and things like the Delta Flyer.
Not sure if you’ve done one but a video on the Saber class would be cool
Stick around, it will be on the short list soon! ;)
- Jack
Phalanx class from the Ship of the line calendar please.
Man, I love your vids. Not only are they informative, but your sarcastic tone and in additional commentary is just makes watching these videos more fun. Keep up the great work.
Great ship in StarTrek Online. First ship I could go toe to toe with a Borg Cube singlehandedly with confidence and win.
They should've had twin captains Romulus,and Remus be the first captains of these ships,and have the first ship named Augustus.
thanks for reminding of that just odd thing called the burn in the startrek cannon
I'm hoping that Voyager A is a Vesta class, thus finally making this beauty canon.
As for saucer separation, it certainly would explain why there is such an overabundance of impulse engines in separation prime locations. :)
Voyager-A being vesta is actually a solid idea.
"Prepare for horseshoe separation!"
What? the Oddy has 'chevron' separation, and the vesta's "bit" is far from saucer shaped!
The Voyager A will be a new class of starship in Star Trek Prodigy.
You're having way too much fun with this. It's contagious. :-)
I am huge Danube class Runabout fan. So I’d like to see you guys do a review of that ship as well.
Runabouts are interesting in Trek history
"With this discovery brought about by a bunch of random teens and a very strange dog!" - priceless!
Vesta is Besta (& is still one of (many) favorite ships in STO).
Aventeen/tine/tian/tone/. Had me in stitches. This is why I love this channel.
This is the comment I'm looking for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For a moment I got confused about the ship's actual name
Whether it is just Aventine or Aventine -titane
Or is t "Ez-rye" Dax? 0_o .......
Oh no. Pronunciation in anglais issues Ltcmd Adam
Like doctor who "sónt'rans"
It's "SONTÁRANS" 🤓😅🖖
😳 How many TRANSPORTERS??
I Hope it does well. I don't quite like the design. 🤔 It's like an intrepid + sovereign or something like that 🤔
I don't like the warp nacelles, that's it.
And I don't fancy so many technologies like "slipstream", just say Warp 9.9999 or something, easier for me at least 😬
"Teen, tyne, tane, tone" "Lean, lyne, lane, loan" Had me literally rolling laughing, lol. I was wondering the rest of the video what other "pronunciation" you'd add next XD
Ok.. Was that first min of the vid supposed to be internal or external?
The other voices in my head all said hey that's what we sound like before you talk to real people.........
Dude! You're starting to sound like a "ticked off Dr. Who fan"!
What have you got against the Vesta class, and 'Super Yachts', in particular?
Amazon would love Starfleet,maybe this why Elon musk wants to build a starship,or a fleet of them,and he'll let it drive him around,hopefully he doesn't have. Hal aboard,especially if he gets locked out,but some of us would love the irony.
You make fun of the "super yacht" design the ship has, but in truth, on a deep space/long term exploration ship, one of the things you would want would be luxury, on top of practicality. Obviously the officers would be spending far more time than other counterparts on board the ship, so making it as comfortable as possible would greatly help with morale.
The other important thing would be ensuring the damn thing could take a hit and dish one out. The fleet isn't there to back you, so being able to defend yourself would be probably the most vital. This is why I always made my first established base in Mass Effect Andromeda a military one.
The Vesta Class has a nice futuristic looking design, I like it very much!
I would love to Command a Vesta Class, as long as Ezri Dax were reconstituted as my First Officer.
I'm shocked you didn't name it Eggplant at some point. We would have gotten it. Now I want some Indian eggplant curry over rice.
Imagine hippies like Bill ,and Ted getting on her,they wouldn't need weed to freakout,and imagine Socrates reaction.
We need a new series with a ship that has a quantum slipstream drive with episodes where we explore the Dwarf Galaxies outside the Milky way. The ship should be equipped with all of the weapons, armor and drive systems in Voyager's last episode. The ship could eventually bump into the Kelbans from Andromeda and episodes where we actually have to ally with the Borg and the Dominion to deal with extra galactic races.
quantum slipstream still takes nearly a year to get to the edge of Andromeda galaxy.... thats at fulltilt the entire time... zero stops.
That's how we can get the Iconians into Alpha canon. A Fed starship exploring a dwarf galaxy discovers the Iconians. They're not sleeping or anything. Just waiting waiting to receive a signal from the Blue Gill that Starfleet is pacified.
Galaxy class was the best! Not the most advance of course, but the enterprise D could be retrofitted to become more powerful.
I want a Galaxy Class-sized Defiant!
It appears that Star Fleet is totally stuck in a never ending cycle of starship deigns. I think it’s about time for the starship design team to start thinking outside the box and produce some totally new designs.
I was gonna sub, but you haven't learned how to use your words yet.
Pronunciation isn't hard, you killed that joke dead
na, i fly the odyssey..
When my captain and Shon rock up at a problem in 2 oddys you know starfleet has had enough.
I love this ship. Thanks for the indepth video:) Btw, since you're taking suggestions Sir, could you look into a ship that may, or may not, fall into ANY canon or extended canon...The Abbe Class, a federation gunboat that existed, supposedly, in the Enterprise A era. Thanks!
Starfleet needs to get realistic and start building absolutely balanced ships between exploration and balls-out War for the line between peace and War is very thin
I've been playing STO since May 2010 and my main's command is the USS Emilia, a Brigid Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer :D
The Caelian is a new addition to the line of ships that was added to a Legendary pack a in STO a year or so ago! It's alright I guess, I like the Brigid's seating more though ;)
Ine should be said like wine/mine/fine, as it's how the Romans pronounced it.
I’d command a Vesta class.
I think my list for first pick 24th Century vessels is:
1. Sovereign.
2. Vesta.
3. Luna.
And then maybe an Akira.
to quote wreck gar
its sleek sexy import with turbo handling
Can you imagine how amazingly freaking awesome it would be for the Destiny trilogy to be brought to the screen!!!!
Sadly it will never happen
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Please Stop I can't breathe. Aventeen, tine, tone....😅😅😅😅
Aventine, tíne toe oh I love it.
Please Mr. Adam, make som more videos you are really making them so much more than educational they are funny and I do agree in everything you said in the video.
Besides I would mind having a Vesta class ship 😉
OMG this isnt canon (I said this after you gave the warning)
I used to use a Vesta Class in STO. One of the best ships I ever flew. Her name was USS Eris, NCC-80115.
Waiting to hear more about those advanced toothbrushes🤔
Not sure we as a species are ready to handle such advanced dental hygiene technology. I admit I'm a little uncomfortable, even somewhat afraid.
As you mentioned the Burn. Why did the Romulans not take over the Galaxy as they use other tech Ie The artificial quantum singularity, thus they still had the exact same power to and speeds to travel,. totally unaffected by the burn!?!?
Romulan Artificial Quantum Singularity drives still required Dilithium to maintain the reaction. This is seen in technical schematics by Rich Sternbach. - Dom
its not Aventine like Newcastle upon Tyne, its Aventiné, the Destiny series of books are awesome, best Trek books ive read.
Thumbs up on the ship, thumbs down for u on the aventine
I have always been partial to the Vesta. It would have been nice to see a couple in Picard, Lower Decks or Prodigy.
“Oh no, I’ve gone cross eyed….”
💀 Great Austin Powers reference!
To me one of the most elegant and beautiful of the more contemporary designs. I would much rather STO be canon than any of the new shows.
One of the greatest Starfleet designs ever.
agreed. But the stats are screwed up. "24,000 metric tons of cargo space" is basically 1 semi truck cargo container. It is nothing.
*USS Aventine tine tane tick tack toe tiberius!!*
That tine/tine/tane/tone thing is annoying as hell
What is the Max range at Top Warp speed ???
All the ships are starting to look the same
Specially the science variant is very powerful within the game, if you fit her out correctly that is. It can deal a hefty punch to pretty much anything.
I want the vesta class to be canon so badly it’s literally a great ship with a great piece of lore.
I'd love a vid on the universe class
Vesta Class is hands down the best looking starship to ever come out of the Trek universe
You say Tomato 🍅 I say Mater...
5:35 we know from ST Nemesis (I think it was Nemesis) that Janeway made admiral anyway, sometime before her subspace call to Picard to deliver orders or something. (It was a very small part of the movie.)
7:30 the metric ton is a unit of mass, not volume/space.
8:30 according to the graphic at 5:50, the crew's main recreation center might rightly be called Twelve Forward, and 6:00 it likely comes equipped with advanced drink straw replicators.
12:15 sounds like a certain author of novels really needs a few ... hundred hugs from a friend. Maybe even Sybok-strength hugs.
13:13 I can't help but feel that you have that reversed - as in Ezri first, the Aventine second. The last time we saw Julian and Ezri together on DS9, they were on VERY good terms. Like, "let me see if your spots can be licked off" kind of good terms. 👀
It's a beautiful ship, and I would love to captain one in my mind. Since I don't play the online game or read the novels you cited, your channel is a very good source of Trek info I might never see otherwise. Thank you.
5:35 nice Austin Powers reference.
would be nice if there was a 3d program that would be able to design ships for trek
This ship has always intrigued me. I always found it interesting and I think I would command this type of ship. A ship having not only a regular warp drive, but both a quantum AND transwarp drives is rather fascinating. Not surprised this ship would have hull armor like the Defiant. The one cannons is interesting too.
I love the Defiant too, probably my second favorite 24th/25th Century Starship design that I like.
BTW I loved this video on how it was presented. Adam you had me chuckling a lot especially with how you kept pronouncing the ship's name.
UGH what a crappy way for Ezri to die. I dunno if I'll accept that as the books aren't cannon. So unless we actually SEE Ezri die I just won't accept that.
Been a Trek fan since the 70's. Was never a fan of either the Enterprise E or Voyager - but this design... wow. I really dig this one.
The lack of quantum slipstream post voyager is just stupid... its made very clear in voyager that federation tech could be modified, they came very close to doing it in a few months on Voyager and in the end where only stopped by their lack of resources. Upon return to the federation this should have been achievable within a few years, especially considering they could just build a new vessel with proper tech and modifications
A fun thing to do think about is how Voyager would have fared if she were a different class of ship. I think that the intrepid was fairly well suited, but would being stranded have been easier in a Vesta class, a Galaxy class or an Odyssey class? It could be a good idea to explore.
I think the Vesta would have done better. It's a larger ship, with more people on board and far more power. This ship would have mopped the floor with the Khazon, for example. The only downside could be the increased consumption and resources. Obviously, it didn't exist at the time Voyager was lost, but it's interesting to theorise.
I like how you can see Starfleets "OH SHIT" moment with the Borg, and how it influenced ship design(only building pure warships) for a whopping two generations before they went back to building giant warp capable hotels in space.
Vesta is besta. The Starfleet Core of Engineers must have asked the admiralty "So what level of resources do we have to design this new ship?" and they said "yes."
The Enterprise G!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every way and detail possibly provided indeed 👌.
WOW! Its been a year and no Enterprise G! The one from Bridge Commander, not Picard! Seriously, I've been trying to find a detailed account of the Enterprise G and the info is quite scarce! Any chance you might know of a place to look for details about the Enterprise G. I think it was a Excalibur class but I can't even confirm that! Oh well, love your stuff dude, keep on keeping on!
A lot of the exploration science vessels always interested me because of the fact that exploring strange new worlds was always my favorite part of Star Trek since TOS and in turn Voyager and Enterprise were some of my favorites because they got to explore a lot.
I do command a tier six vesta in sto the nx93890c USS qutezecol. She gained the nx tag after the iconian war was refit to the c variant and ceased to exist on paper as she became a covert shop for starfleet
Lt Commander Adam. The only one who should do ship breakdowns, in my opinion.
He's hilarious.
Adam is a valued member of our crew, but sometimes other people will take the ship for a spin ;)
- Jack
I still think that Starfleet should had used the original Slipstream tech and not the Borg enhanced Quantum Slipstream which negates the stress on the ship's forward hull. The Voyager was initially modified and successfully used the regular slipstream for several hours. 7of9 integrated certain transwarp principles to solve the forward stress to the ship's hull by creating a transwarp tunnelling effect in the quantum realm. Instead of reinforcing or redesigning the hull, she developed the quantum slipstream so that there's a forward wave generated by the main deflector far ahead of the ship so that there's no stress on the physical hull making the regular slipstream several times faster than the regular slipstream by Species116.
IMO, the correct deployment for the original slipstream tech is the Voyager-A(Vivace class from SFC3/BridgeCommander/Armada) which is before the novel introduction's of the Vesta/Aventine class. The Vivace class looked like the forward section of the Intrepid class had been expanded by 1/3 more and the main hull by 1/4 more for safely travelling in slipstream plus fixed the variable position nacelles.
Anyway don't forget to include the CoAxial Warp too since that didn't include an external modification to the ship's warp engines and maybe rebuild the ship's EPS system so that the Sikarian Trajector could also be used. IMO, the Sikarians are a remnant world of the T'Kon empire like Aldea and Outpost world. The quartz crystal used by the Sikarians for space folding are the similar large crystals seen on the T'Kon Outpost world.
One reliable note is business (i. e. Star Trek) models have a life span of emergence, growth and decline. Where (think hard) do you think you are right now? Subsidiary businesses decline with the main business. That is, advantage shifts partners.
TNG Star Trek writers: we must remove the temptation to use higher and higher warp factors because it cheapens drama. Let's put a limit at 10.
Every subsequent Star Trek writer (most of whom worked on TNG as well): so we have warp 9 ships, warp 9.99 ships, warp 9.9999 ships, warp 9.999999999999999...
Cheers Adam
Treknobabble, the Star Trek specific dialect of Technobabble, is the reason I quit watching Star Trek from VOY until Picard, Lower Decks and SNW. I'm still less than impressed.
Starfleet's ULTIMATE Exploration Ship- - Nope. If it was the Ultimate, it would have 4 nacelles to continually be at warp and not just 2 where you have to stop and cool off.
No way! I dont card what my fellow nerds say. I'll take the comfortable vesta class over the defiant any day. Enjoy your luxury space tank. I'll be sailing some nebula in style and comfort. Same thing in star wars. The Falcon is cool but I'll take the Naboo Royal ship. Better yet gimme an ISD. That bridge us huge. I could put a pool table and couches up there.
I own this ship in STO. Looks pretty from side angle but ugly from up, down or front, play as recon and stealth science ship using masked signature or something something... (I forgot the name) in pvp map.
If not from the huge size, slow turn and heavy, I prefer Odyssey, her bridge is unbeatable but feels empty, STO should populate more with npcs.
"The burn"
Yep, a civilization with time travel, in Canon, was hobbled when a space cow got a bad case of the mondays.
Makes perfect sense.
Guess slipstream and soliton waves just aren't a thing anymore, eh?
Thanks kurtzman. Keep up the great work.
I have to say I enjoy your videos with your satirical take on ship specifications as only data gets a smile from mundane techno babble. Well done and looking forward to your next showing.
I like this ship. Especially hearing it has quantum slipstream drive. It should have been the ship used in Picard S3. It’s about time the show just made quantum slipstream a canon new commonplace thing instead of warp. Would help explain how they got to the edge of federation space so quickly. Would make things makes more exciting. Warp is so boring now. What was Matalas’s contribution? Really really loud warp barrier sounds, basically saying f-you to anyone that complains about not being able to hear anything in space.
This ship is ugly. So glad the era of the ‘spear ship’ style is passing of season 3 of ST Picard is going to set the trend. Going back to a more movie era style is awesome. As for what ship to do, how about the new Intrepid from ST Picard season 3? It looks great. One of my new favorite designs. Looks like a newer, better Hornet class from the 90’s.