Why Does Power Rangers Have Such a Bad Reputation?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- One of the biggest uphill battles the Power Rangers brand faces is its own public perception. But just why is this franchised looked down on so much?
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I think it's because of 3 main reasons: 1) Power rangers has been doing the same thing for years and has not tried to make any drastic changes to the SHOW to appeal more. 2) The writing is so elementary. Like instead of building off of RPM, the Nickelodeon era was such a big regression and I don't know if we've recovered since. 3) I think toy quality and marketing in general has gone down as well. I understand that costs have gone up since but juice isn't worth the squeeze with alot of the main line toys anymore. Which leads me to a fourth point I just thought of: Power rangers as a whole is cheap!
Turtles are willing to try new things, change up the formula, and the writing across most of the turtle shows/movies are good.
I don't agree with point 1, but I agree with the other 2 points.
@@hollyredmond8688 okay. Why do you disagree?
@@CHopkins73 If we give more quality writing and make it much more serious or artistic in terms of story telling, I think that'd be enough. Something that goes back to the days of Lost Galaxy through Wild Force.
@@CHopkins73 I want the show to simply be a more mature version of what it already is. Rather than becoming what it's not meant to be... mainstream.
I feel like Power Rangers would be more successful if whoever's owning the brand just upped the target audience a little bit. We all understand that it's a kids show, but it doesn't have to be a show made for small kids. Cosmic Fury gave very cocomelon dora the explorer backyardigans vibes. Middle school kids and up see that and instantly back away from the corniness
That’s what I’m saying it just needs to appeal to a slightly wider audience
I definitely agree!!!
They need to add gore and light swearing for teens and older
@@dino-man9574 Not needed!!! Sorry!!! 🤮
@@dino-man9574 At least, somewhere in the middle-ground where both children and adults can enjoy. Just I think PR should have a balance, where it isn’t too kiddie or too serious. Balance is the key.
A huge reason I got into PR when I was 7 years old was because Wild Force wasn't pandering to toddlers. It treated their (child) audience with respect. The decline of PR is in tandem with them assuming children are idiots and have no attention spans.
They're not wrong. Gen alpha is that.
We need the tone that Time Force-RPM had, older kids like 12-13 years, those are considered some of the best seasons of the show
Oh man I totally agree! There are other great seasons like In Space which were not only great seasons in their own right but actually improved upon the original Sentai.
Minus Mystic Force and Operation Overdrive.🙄
@@Ultriac301 I totally agree that Mystic Force was weak but I honestly really enjoyed Operation Overdrive.
it has a bad rep cause its only remembered for mighty morphin and no one sees it beyond that. and anyone who has has moved on to super sentai and kamen rider after seeing how bad it got and how it wont and in someways cant move on its sadly stuck in its own bubble and if that bubble pops it dies and most people will just go meh o well.
Ironically, I think it’s in large part because the MMPR boom was so huge like you talked about in the beginning. I just think it left such an imprint on ppls brains of what (they think) the show is or is supposed to be. Which is kinda ironic because the entire reason that In Space was such a success and ultimately ended up saving the franchise is because they went away from that early formula. I also think that the name itself, “power rangers”, is just too ingrained in ppls minds as a children’s property.
Exactly, just like Sentai is still considered a kindergarten show in Japan, and people over here think it's more mature than PR.
@@michaelleary9233 From my understanding, Sentai does garner a level of respect within Japanese culture. Which is a lot more than I can say for PR.
@@Realest1ne Maybe, but not like Anime, even the kids age out and move on to Kamen Rider at 7 or so.
@@michaelleary9233 True but Toei banks on that. Which is why they have the rotating cast system. So its easier for new kids to jump in every time the old ones age out. It's the same thing with Rider and Ultraman. It's much easier to get fans in on a new show then a long overarching one. Like imagine trying to jump into the MCU right now. That's a lot of films you need to catch up on.
It saved the franchise but became irrelevant overtime since mmpr is still the main thing casual audience have in there brain when they think about power rangers
I think The Tokusatsu Genre Deserves a Proper Exposure like Anime did.
Put that shit on crunchyroll
It's easier than you might think because this happens. Tokusatsu is a children's product and obviously it will have things that will please children, as is the case with protagonists like Zenkai Red, who many adults complain about his personality but he was made with the intention of pleasing the target audience. And they are still low-budget productions, which makes many ridicule these productions. The best way to make your aunt watch Power Rangers is if it either becomes like DC TV series like Arroverse, which has a strong romance tone and things that appeal to a more diverse audience, or like the MCU in its six glory days. with their millionaire budgets making the experience more "convincing" and with that Power Rangers would stop being Tokusatsu and become exactly like Marvel Studios and DC Studios Super Heroes.
Honestly man I kind of want PR to take a break from romance subplots. Mostly when it's between ranger members. We've just been doing that way to much that's getting exhausting. Romance with side characters that aren't rangers is fine, but I'd rather we take a break from it when it's romance within the team.
Sorry dude a power ranger show without sentai footage and costumes is like a slider without the minced onions and pickle chips.
It feels wrong.
The people that don't realize that PR has always been a super hero brand don't understand the history of sentai and comics. They are intrinsically linked.
The show’s reputation is the result of the way the show has marketed itself. And I think the marketing has relied too much on the generic Power Rangers iconography and not enough on the characters.
Back at the height of Power Rangers’ popularity, promotional materials would show the unhelmeted actors at least as much as the helmeted Rangers. Their heads were incorporated into the action figures, and nearly all VHS tapes made a point of showcasing the actors’ faces. (There are even some VHS covers without a costumed Power Ranger at all!) But after Jason, Trini, and Zack left, the franchise made the decision to stop showcasing the actors’ likenesses as much. And that’s when the franchise stopped being as popular in the mainstream.
People enjoy franchises like the Ninja Turtles because of the characters. But Power Rangers has spent twenty years marketing the show as if there aren’t any civilian identities at all. So of course the general public thinks that the show is nothing but spandex-clad stunt performers fighting silly rubber monsters.
Power Rangers also never bothered to expand the brand when they should have years ago. We should have gotten an MMPR cartoon at least around the late Disney era or Early Neo-Saban era when the 20 year cycle kicked in.
it’s because if you want to collect power rangers merch, you have to buy the same stuff that kids buy. it’s always kid oriented. imagine if whenever they released ninja steel, u were able to buy the super sentai equivalents as a more adult oriented line, but with sounds in english, for a higher pricepoint, oriented at collectors.
the reason dino charge did so well, at least to me, is because the gap was smaller than ever. the dino chargers did everything, but generally nowadays, power rangers is just sentai, but worse. if lightning collection did a dino fury full team in like 2 waves while dino fury was out, it wouldve created a better link, because then, a collector could watch dino fury, enjoy it, and then go out and buy figures that ride the line of “toys for kids” vs “toys for adults” way way better.
especially with dino fury and beast morphers, i feel they tried to compete with sentai too hard, and instead of ending up with “the sentai stuff, but cheaper” we ended up with “the sentai stuff, but worse.” look at how close the cosmic fury megazord and kyuren-oh were in price.
if u want to be an adult fan, you either have to buy the toys meant for kids, or you have to buy stuff that doesn’t make the right sounds. there is no middle ground for english speaking fans, where as with transformers, we had the movie, which had the mainline, and then the studio series better figures, which cost more. we have the kid line, the mainline (earthspark, rotb, etc) and we have the one that’s in the middle of kids and adults, with generations and studio series.
To flourish among younger audiences, the Rangers need to present a world they want to project themselves into. A good first step for a new take on the project is to simplify the role of the Morphin Grid and make it clear IT is what everyone is fighting over. Rangers channel small amounts of The Power to safely act as guardians, people/aliens who absorb too much become monsters. What would YOU choose?
As soon as new generations are generating fan teams of Rangers and Villians, the franchise can make a real impact again.
I totally agree with you Power Rangers does have a bad reputation
Indeed it’s sad that people only see it as mmpr when there’s many better seasons than it
@@Deity_devilit doesn't matter if the other seasons are better people still don't care
@@terrencehill502 I agree and that is unfortunately the harsh truth about Power Rangers. The general public will only think of MMPR in that sense.
@@terrencehill502 unfortunately
Yearly tokusatsu has no real culural equivalent in America. Power rangers was always going to fail this hard eventually, just like every other western adaptation of Tokusatsu thats ever been attempted. It's just not meant to be in the west, the market/culture/tv guidelines are too different
I find it funny westerner's can't take people in colourful Spandex seriously but can take some guy in a bat costume seriously just fine...
@micjimster4845 to be fair, if the mmpr was like a 1:1 adaptation of say, Jetman, instead of a cross between sentai footage and low effort saved by the bell-style high school scenes, I think that people would be a lot less critical of tokusatsu suits/action. Mmpr genuinely made the whole genre look so laughable and immature to any region with no exposure to sentai/rider/ultraman/kikaider
@@micjimster4845Batman has decades of serious storytelling in comics and now movies and TV so people grew up taking Batman seriously. Power Rangers is niche and silly in it's own right but Sentai is on a whole different level. It just doesn't have the tone to appeal to Americans en masse.
@@BaithNa I mean more concept wise. A guy in a bat costume is just as silly as 5 people in colourful Spandex. Obviously batman is known for being much darker compared to power rangers.
@@BaithNa bullshit if they can watch tiger and bunny they can watch kamen rider w.
I just can't imagine how do you make something original in the superhero genre this days in general. "Teenage heroes in transforming suits with giant robots" is simply not enough as a draw anymore.
Modern western audiences have seen tons of things like that, even if it's not exactly the way it's shown in PR.
Every type of superhero origin story has been done. Alien, scientific, celestial, be that more down-to-earth or pure fantasy. Simply putting another one out there in the mainstream that's just like most of the others will only make people yawn.
Name one other series like that. Only one I could think of with teens transforming into costumes and riding robots was the voltron reboot
@@kinght676 It doesn't matter for the general public wether they transform or just put them on. Marvel has those armor mechs + there's also transformers. Although not as mainstream Ninjago is still a thing
For casuals it all blends together
@@altrovic815 I actually agree with you.
I personally agree with this statement. That concept of “Teenagers morphing into their suits and having mechs flighting monsters”, isn’t that convincing or interesting for me and for the general audiences nowadays.
A reason I think PR has that perception in the current society, Is because of it's inception, and Is something Transformers also Is starting to suffer. Power Rangers began as a toy comercial, while other franchises, like TMNT, began as a comic and the toys came later, what I mean with PR:
Japanese toys -> gave birth to súper sentai -> gave birth to Power Rangers
Something similar happened with Transformers:
Japanese toys (diaclone) -> gave birth to transformers.
With these brands, they toys came first and the shows were Made to sell them, unlike, for example, Marvel, where the stories were so popular that toys were Made from them. And that idea that PR and TF are just toy commercials, is something very hard for the general public to look past that. The difference is that Hasbro is putting a Lot of money and care into TF to keep it relevant, but is leaving PR to die...
Another thing is that hasbro is not that great handling Japanese brands, look at zoids, it began as Japanese model kits, gave birth to a show, Hasbro brought it to América, had popularity in the early 2000s, and then died, then tried to bring it back in 2018 or 2019, and then died again, and Zoids right now is completely dead in the west and barely surviving in Japan :(
But a show that uses it's full potential of tenage héroes with battle Suits and a giant robot, it's Symbionic Titan, sadly that got cancelled after one season :( , but PR could learn from that show, and with some care, could be as awesome or Even more as what Symbionic Titan was
Naw this doesn’t really apply to transformers.
Has anyone ever entertained the thought that Power Rangers was only ever popular because it was new and different from anything else at the time, but as it became old hat, the novelty wore off? As someone who was 5 at the time, MMPR was absolutely huge, but it became irrelevant with Season 3 after the Movie. While the costumes, zords and some story arcs are iconic, maybe that was what people wanted from it and the brand has been living on good will since Season 3, cutting costs to keep profitable. It's perfectly possible a well written engaging series could revitalize PR for some time, but the concept itself has nothing to offer anymore. It's been done and the series aren't different enough from each other.
It’s very possible to make Power Rangers appeal to a larger audience while still keeping it colorful and fun. It’s all about striking the right tone. Look at the Sonic The Hedgehog movies for example. There are adults who never played the Sonic games that enjoy those movies.
I think the difference of the perception of power rangers and tmnt is that it had went through different reincarnations for each different audience like the bay movies and the tmnt 2012 tv series unlike power rangers still not changing at that point
When superhero comics started up they were seen by the audiences at the time as stupid, same as when superhero movies started with all of that really changing with the 1978 Superman. But that movie was decades after Superman was created. These products need to be made with love and care by the people who grew up on and surrounded by them in order to fully work, it's why I think a reboot hasn't clicked yet, the people who grew up on Power Rangers are only fairly recently starting to get out into the entertainment industry and all. It's gonna have to be made by people who grew up on it which, thankfully, is a LOT of people since it's been around for 30 years.
I think one of the biggest problems Power Rangers has had as a brand is the fact that it was a show aimed at children, and was basically a 30 minute toy commercial. Even going back to the MMPR days in the '90s, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie didn't do well at the box office in 1995 because it didn't appeal to the general audience. It was made for kids. Same with Turbo in 1997. And because Saban didn't attempt to make the series grow with its original audience, the show just floundered, particularly in the In Space/Lost Galaxy years when Pokemon was just coming out and Pokemania was taking the world by storm. Not to mention the rest of the Anime explosion that we experienced in the late '90s. Later seasons also didn't grab kids the way MMPR did in 1993. PR still had an audience obviously, since there are people who started with seasons like Dino Thunder, SPD, and RPM, but it wasn't the craze it was in 1993. And, again, Disney did nothing with it to bring it to a wider audience in the 2000s. And then when Saban returned and Samurai began airing on Nickelodeon, it was airing on Nickelodeon, which isn't a great channel to begin with for action shows like Power Rangers. So there are alot of elements that go into why Power Rangers never got out of its own way over the years.
Exactly - this is exactly correct! I mean, “Turbo” was just a glorified television special that got a theatrical release - and if an average person who wasn’t a fan of “Power Rangers” as a franchise went and saw “MMPR: The Movie”, they’d most likely be rolling their eyes at how corny they thought it was, and/or being more than a bit grossed out by Ivan Ooze, and therefore not into the film overall.
As such - “Power Rangers” needs to be redone with an older audience in mind, because it seems that the younger, traditional target audience, doesn’t care about it these days.
@@The-Shadow-Realm The thing is though, that, when they DID make it with an older audience in mind with the reboot movie in 2017, a time where it should've been hugely successful due to the superhero movie boom that we were in the middle of at the time, the general audience didn't care because Power Rangers was seen as a children's brand, and nothing more. So now, anyone in charge of the brand moving forward from that point, currently Hasbro, now doesn't know what to do with it because they hit a brick wall at a thousand miles per hour.
@@tgif1345 you’re completely correct again - and I still love the 2017 reboot. I think the biggest problem with that particular reboot though, is that the marketing was far too skewed towards a Krispy Kreme tie-in and not enough on mass marketing, and that it tried to just up the bar to a light “CW” type of audience target based on age, thereby rendering it in a sort of “grey area” where you have 13-19 year olds who probably wouldn’t really care about it (due to not enough marketing to change their perspective), and maybe handfuls of young children who’ll see it, buy some merchandise, then forget it.
That’s why I honestly think if “Power Rangers” gets a “The Boys” treatment, you’ll get mass attention - because not only will people will go “whoa, I never thought I’d see this happen!”, but let’s face it: countless parents don’t use or don’t care about parental controls on any sort of visual media device and/or service - so youth from 5-19 on average, are exposed to pretty much all that the internet has to offer, and thereby, they “grow up quickly”, even if they aren’t necessarily media literate, and they’ll want to see the “hard stuff.” Plus again, it would be a “shock to the system” for people to see the “Power Rangers” as far less than pure and heroic, and thus that would drum up attention, and allow writers and show-runners far more leeway to be creative.
It would take courage to do so - but personally, I’d love to see how it would turn out!
@@The-Shadow-Realm But that's still skewing it towards a particular audience rather than making it something everyone can enjoy. Not everything has to be cynical, ultra-violent, or overly-sexual to be good or for it to be noticed. The Boom Studios comics aren't, and people still took notice of them. If it can tell a story that appeals to more than just the Power Rangers fanbase, but also still feels like Power Rangers than I think a new PR series or movie would do very well. But it doesn't have to be like The Boys to be worth watching. Because that's also setting a dangerous precedent. One that someone already attempted with that fan film, Power/Rangers.
@@tgif1345and Go go Loser Rangers
It's almost like what happened with Batman in the older days when they wanted to make a serious Batman movie but all they could see was the campy cheesy 1966 series with the Pow and Wam on the screen when they fought and the silliness of the villains. It took over 20 years before they actually got to do a serious Batman movie and it was a hit. So much that they made a new cartoon for Fox Batman The Animated series where that was the first cartoon to actually have serious storylines and if kids can handle that I don't know why they couldn't handle serious stuff in Power Rangers. The 2nd season with Lord Zedd was one of the best seasons because they actually used original material for the main villain and in Space was the first season that dealt with issues like kidnapping and death.
Also, there's a significant chunk of people who DON'T want the franchise to mature. I have legit seen people who hate Season 2 because it doesn't have the Dino Megazord and Rita and got rid of the Green Ranger.
On the topic of comparing it to Mutant Mayhem, I'll die on the hill that Hasbro should make an animated MMPR feature with a stop-motion-esque style to invoke its "toy commercial" feel the same way TMNT used a doodle type of style.
I’d watch that 100%
Nickelodeon is making a Show based on Mutant Mayhen called Tales of the TMNT.
The cheesy things you could get away with in the 90s you just can't get away with now. Kids are exposed to far too much media, and the things that MMPR did are just dont better by many different franchises now.
Doing a show that is more in line with the comics would work. More complex story lines, stiry arcs, etc.
You still can, just adults are the only ones complaining.
At this point it’s a relic of the past. Why watch an adaptation of Sentai when you can just watch the Sentai now?
And also, nobody watches Sentai so that's a niche audience to begin with and they shouldn't be catered to.
@@BaithNa no? That kinda attitude is part of the reason PR is never able to go anywhere. It’s a small fan base compared to others, but it shouldn’t just be ignored.
@@BaithNa so we can talk about how power rangers can get more popular but not other Toku shows. Shouldn’t those other shows be the priority. Like all our problems would be solved if toei got their licensing shit together and put that shit on crunchyroll and streaming .
@@Goremejy I watch Sentai, which I would've never became aware of had it not been for Power Rangers. It's a way better show, as it can get away with stuff that the USA can't. The characters say "damn" and "go to hell" in it. You can't do that for kids in the U.S
The average person our ages see Mighty Morphin, somewhere in between TMNT and Captain Planet. They don't hate it, but it wasn't considered "as cool" as TMNT and other shows that old (x-men, etc), and it could sometimes be socially preachy (though nowhere near as much as captain planet). I always liked it anyway.
Because the ones handling were pretty much idiots.
When boom studio was doing Power Rangers Comics, that was the best way to use the franchise, Once and always was fantastic as well. If i bought the Power Rangers brand, i feel the show would fit perfect as an Amine.
Like most things in life. You gotta see it through both sides
On one side, it’s a bunch goofballs in colorful customs
On the other side, people are closed minded and usually don’t give the show a fair chance.
It's not surprising. Americans can't take rubber suits and spandex seriously.
Keep in mind most casual Americans couldn't take Godzilla seriously until the 2014 film.
8:50 There is a franchise with non-movie example, and that's Mobile Suit Gundam SEED. If you want proof, check out "Why Gundam SEED was successful/still popular ?"
The concept is strong and with a lot of potential, I mean, DC/Marvel potential, but the writing around Power Rangers franchise as always been poor and too cheap.
Expect for the comics. They need to adapt those stories and stop with the cheap Sentai adaptations and the original content with poor writing.
In space,lost galaxy,spd,rpm,time force,wild force,Dino thunder,jungle fury had good writing
@@BaithNa Abandoning Sentai is a mistake
I'd say its due to Saban starting the series being very cheap and every subsequent owner treated it the same way because Saban had success with it.
Comicbook characters were treated the same way until the Christopher Reeves Superman movie came out and even then, they were still considered too campy until Batman 89. What changed that perception for comics in the mainstream is when Marvel and DC started making mature cartoons in the 90s, creating a young fan base that takes these characters seriously. When those fans grew up in the 2000s, Marvel and DC grew up with them and created live action movies with more serious tones than super hero movies of the past.
PR can do the same exact thing because they have the blueprint in the Boom! Studios comics. All they have to do is adapt those comics in animation, they can even do it in a prestige format on a streaming service like Amazon or Netflix. After adapting those comica for about half a decade or so, they can adapt thoae stories into live action movies. When they have the fandom hooked at that stage, it'll be much easier to do spin offs of other Ranger teams that appear in the Boom! Studios comics and even transfer the main team from MMPR to Zeo and beyond.
The entire blueprint is there from Marvel, DC and their own comics. They just need an executive to see the potential there and act on it.
Also, moving away from Toku is essential to PR growth because its incredibly niche and off putting to western audiences. We may lose some sentai watchers but thats what it'll take for the franchise to grow. Sentai isn't the soul of PR, action is the soul of PR.
Darn such a good comment, totally agree, great stuff
Same here. Very well-said.
I personally think if Power Rangers was able to open up its target demographic a little bit to somewhere in the middle-ground between children and adults, where they can both enjoy. I personally think Power Rangers should take a few year(s) break and understand what they want to do with it?
But the core idea of power rangers is that it’s so supposed to be an adaptation of super sentai
The fans. They complain about everything. Then recently the writers themselves started blaming the fans for their poor writing.
Not everyone knows about the other seasons and also, you got fans acting like the company should listen to everything they said, nothing wrong with wanting the best but you have to keep the limits and audience in mind.
I think it's interesting to note that with TMNT the series continues to evolve and handle different topics that the general public can relate to. Even though there's a ton of different shows, movies, and comics, the series wasn't afraid to deal with more mature topics that both kids and adults can enjoy. Power Rangers especially after the Disney era felt stagnate and they didn't evolve with their fanbase (outside the comics which are amazing). The whole brand was wasted and I do feel like it could've garnered at least some momentum had they taken more risks with it.
I actually personally agree with this.
Very well-said.
When it comes to why TMNT can still have a lasting impact when compared to Power Rangers, I think a large part of it is because TMNT tends to have animated adaptations while Power Rangers sticks to live action. The general public is probably less like to be willing to suspend their disbelief with the goofy/cheesy aspects of the franchise since it could look sillier in reality
Reaching a bit too much lately me think
It’s a shame PR shut down a freeway ones now they just can’t get any respect.
8:27 If that's true will you watch the Ultraman Rising film? You've talked before about how that franchise isn't your cup of tea in a similar way to Star Trek before watching the modern movies. And this film does things different than previous Ultraman shows and movies that could be more appealing to you, like being animation. I'm just saying that because you criticize the PR fandom for being close minded on the IP changing how it does things so I wanna see if you can do the same for another Toku series by giving it a second chance since it's doing things you want Power Rangers to do. Cause I'm seeing movie reviewers who aren't Ultraman fans love the film and are now interested in the franchise.
They should make it the way super sentai has storylines such as relationships, death,
I think we could really benefit from an animated show. That Voltron reboot was pretty popular after all..
Yes totally!!
Until the last few seasons
It was popular among shippers and Tumblr communities, but I never heard anyone talk about the show beyond them. It didn't sell many toys nor did it revitalize the Voltron IP in any meaningful, long-lasting way.
Obviously, that isn't what Hasbro is looking for.
The Voltron show was really good and a good comparison butttttt I don't think it sold that well and despite it being on Netflix, I don't think it was that well talked about among the general audience
I always thought there was merit in making an animated ranger show especially during the disney era,atleast theres that Go Go Loser Ranger show for a semi unoffiial Sentai/ Power Ranger cartoon/ anime.
Think you kind of answered your question when your response to the “soul of Power Rangers” is “it’s a toy commercial” it’s the same way many people feel about PR, but when someone says “they want to be taken serious” some people’s response would simply to undermine it with “it’s a toy commercial”
It’s like how some people enjoy more darker/serious Godzilla films but then people would be like “but rubber suited monsters are silly.” You can even find this thougjt procenss with TMNT when some people like darker turtles only to get the response “it’s a show about Kungfu frogs, it ain’t serious”
The comparions you make in this video are spot on. Right now TMNT is undergoing a huge resurgence with movies and video games. With regard to Star Trek, it was dead in the water after Enterprise. Then in 2017 with the launch of Star Trek Discovery, you got Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Picard, etc. I think Power Rangers needs to take some time to rebrand itself and maybe in a few years it can come back better than ever. As a Power Rangers fan I choose to remain positive and optimistic. Brighter days are on the horizon. ☀️
..... because it's a 4Kids version of Super Sentai 😂
I think I know why they're trying to make the Power Rangers' reputation look bad, they're trying to ruin it and give mean comments just like some youtubers including youssef mesrati and cheap finish do to us fans especially me.
You honestly hit the nail on the head when you Brought up the comparison. Power Rangers is to TMNT(And I guess to an extent Transformers) what stuff like Medabots or Monster Rancher, or Fighting Foodons, or Monsuno(Basically most "Collectable monster" series out there) is to like Pokemon or Digimon. Where on one hand you have these major household names that withstood the test of test of time and at least retained some form of semblence of relevancy in the mainstream zeitgeist, while on the other hand you have a property that had it's season in the sun, but ultimately fizzled out when the next big thing came along, and while it retains a cult following, it still never manages to make any form a major comeback that would get people outside of that bubble talking. Not to mention, Tokusatsu seems like it is the same boat as anime was back in the turn of the century, where it seems very weird, very neiche, very alienating to people outside those very insular bubbles. Maybe if we get another shot at the reboot approach, I could see them giving it a more cinematic flare to fit more in the style of western Superhero media.(Not like full on MCU or DCEU quality, but perhaps something more in line with stuff like the Arrowverse shows?) Hell, If they decide to go the animated approach I could imagine soming along the lines of Voltron Legendary Defenders. The sky's truely the limit, anything could happen.
I agree with everything you said, Power Rangers attaches itself to the audience of 1993 to 95 when it doesn't know what to do with the current product. The series refuses to grow up, so the general audience is gonna assume that Power Rangers is the way it was, because they keep rehashing and rebooting MMPR, instead of moving away from it. Even just recently as over a year ago, the 30th anniversary was about MMPR, and not the Power Rangers series as a whole. It ruihs the perception of the brand, by not respecting the seasons that came after the originals.
I want to see them try to dub a Sentai at least once. Just do it, you cowards! Prove us wrong! :p
The public perception of Power Rangers is why I kind of hate using it as a point of reference for an entire genre of media.
My idea is maybe it’s too late to make PR happen again, but just the respect that there are 25 other teams and 27 seasons after MMPR. Like if there are some suits that are just that good, it would be nice to see more casuals/GP respect and support those teams if they just think look very appealing, at least enough to offset losses for those just for top echelon super fan completionist
The Turtles and The Power Rangers Had A Crossover 2 Parter Episode Too Together, I think , only Top O my Head Guessing was Around The Lost Galaxy or In Space Time.
I’m in no way a fan of power rangers but the live action movie I thought was really solid. It’s just I’m so tired of see MMPR everywhere when there’s other teams but I get it, it’s the team everyone knows
I get what you are saying & I agree it should be balanced like TMNT, both cheesy & mature, so matured cheese. It bother me that the general public have this basic perception & its not just PR. Like when's the last time we saw a adaption of OZ other than the Wizard of OZ? Or full adaption of ALL Narnia stories? Its like a dumb yank that cant count beyond 10. Anyway a balance of what makes PR, PR, such as various forms the formula & the comics which explores lore, story & characters, would be worth a try.
They really only have 3 options to make this ip work with modern audience and old fans. 1) do a reboot with higher quality acting,vfx and writing. 2) make a AAA game or 3) which will probably be hard to do but make an anime similar to something Castlevania.
It's kind of weird but I'm more of a fan of concept of power rangers and designs of suits and mecha and not a big fan of the actual shows and tone (comics are awesome though). So I was very interested in a potential reboot that doesn't use sentai footage and potentially could be more mature, but now it's canceled and I'm sad
I felt relieved when it got canned.
I feel this video and I wish our show would get more respect. It’s so weird.
Great video, I totally agree, pr has so much potential, it should split from sentai and become its own thing and be at least a little bit more mature like some new tmnt shows
No to the first part, yes to the second.
are you a power rangers fan. i would argue that if your starting from the prenise that power rangers is lame, your not a fan. if somone thinks power rangers is lame they have no place on a creative team for a power rangers project.
Power rangers as a super hero comic is a bad idea. part of the apeal was always the martial arts.
Yes power rangers needs better writing teams. one of the things that needs to leave is the hummor written by people in their 50s and 60s aimed at what they think kids find funny. stop trying to be hip with the kids of the era, and just write good dialouge.
one of the good parts of leaving the sentai behind is that the zords have not looked good in a while and it will also let the writing team give the rangers more stable personalities. no more changing personalities when they morph.
Yes it is time to move away from mmpr, as much as i loved it. it is really time to start an original universe..
Abandoning Sentai is a mistake, I agree with all the other bits though.
I love loved medabots growing up
Me I think if sentai would allow it America could do an entry in the super sentai series like Australia and America was allowed to do a season in the ultraman series that I found out about while watching the American season yesterday reading about the season then we wouldn’t have to worry about using existing footage cause there wouldn’t be any to use cause sentai is hard to watch cause it’s not dubbed on the free streaming services that have seasons of it cause u have to try and focus on what’s going on in the episode while also trying to read the subtitles of what they are saying
I dont agree that no one can see the potential of Power Rangers as a concept. But I hate to say it but under this current economic climate, companies want to minimize risks. The reason these companies drop PR is because of its historical record so any new project concern too many risks. Maybe give it a few years when the economy pick up again. Then these companies will be more willing to give PR another chance.
Was that confirmed about TokuJay working on suit designs? I hadn’t heard that news.
He indirectly confirmed it after the news broke and wondering if that meant his contract was up. He deleted the post but said he'll go in detail about it more at a later date.
Dosom your version of everybody all knows mmpr is only people your age and older! Little kids dont even know mmpr is the original power ragers. Their are kids who only know power rangers from the current day, not the old school. Their are videos of kids reacting to to the old power rangers and saying what's this?
Its sketchy production..
To be fair power rangers is to Sentai what robotec is to macross
Yeah the 80s turtles is corny and so is the live-action show next mutation it's very power rangers. the difference between turtles and power rangers is turtles was able to change while being faithful enough.
Very cool video mister dosmrider
PR is like Scooby Doo its a show everyone knows the main plot of and has scenes tropes tied into it. Though SD has other cartoons that was just exact same show by the same creators but not called SD though all of 70s. DR Who is the same as PR too alot hate on both because they see them as people in Cheap monster suits yet you try to make a more crazy design on CG same people mock it for look silly or weird like the Marvel Movie version of Modok who looks weird and silly on purpose in any medium.
A reboot would need money, it would need competent writers and directors, it would need costume designers who know what the hell they are doing, it would need to stand on its own, it would need time to cook, time to be a quality product. Something that Saban, Disney, and Hasbro were never willing to do.
I think it’s because the concept is too complicated in traditional form.
They do king fu, transform into superheroes, AND fight kaiju. Any one of those is a full series. All 3 together is messy. Also no power rangers media outside of the comics really explores the potential of the world. Plus power rangers needs a cartoon or anime like yesterday. The fact there has never been a power rangers cartoon is criminal. Almost everything would be easier in animation.
Because most people only know mmpr
Because it's the only getting anything. New LIGHTNING collection? It's all MMPR.
@@hailthequeenFMMMPR gets the most attention because it's the only part of the franchise that sells merchandise. The real question us why they kept making new series instead of rebooting MMPR by now.
@BaithNa not even "in Space," the show that brought them back to relevance.
@@hailthequeenFMeven tho it did it’s not talked about anymore from causal audiences causal audience will always see power rangers as mmpr
That thumbnail is vicious 😂😂🔥
For me personally I think they'll find better success when they step out of mmpr's shadow. Not forgetting that it exists but (other than the comics) just doing something different and learning to evolve somehow and it being done right.
I think its exactly the opposite, they need to go all in on MMPR and do animated adaptations of the comics to build a new young audience. Then in 5-10 years, they can do live adaptations of those series to capture that same audience when they get older. It's the formula Marvel used and it made them the biggest franchise on Earth.
@BaithNa I could see that working too honestly. Just if they're gonna do it they gotta do it right with all the material they have and not bullshit around ya know? I agree with that idea though
They tried that multiple times with different series and still failed miserably even in terms of capturing original audiences
I think they meant they were inspired by Toku Jay not working with him.
Similarly the Orville made me a Star Trek fan.
given the title my guess is having two seasons for one show instead of one season like Megaforce, Dino Charge and one other having the second season be called Super the Super Sentai shows have 48 episodes and get 32 episodes for Jungle Fury as example it has 48 episodes in Gekiranger and they have it 32 episodes in the adapted series they could of gone the same way for Dino Charge Ninja Steel and the other one the true main villain in Kyoryuger aka Dino Charge is called
Chozetsushin Deboth
the main villain in kyoryuger it’s not Sledge not Snide but Chozetsushin if they had gone one season with 32 episodes would get to see the true leader of Sledge’s buyer with him as a bounty Hunter he must be the guy who had Sledge hired to try to capture Keeper and take the energems he is a bug type villain with a likeness of a butterfly which could be the true Warstar alien threat to Megaforce it’s not Malkor it’s said that he’s the leader and boss of the warstar aliens but they gave him the name Admiral Malkor my guess he’s stripped of his leadership and demoted to admiral
No
You always say that they use MMPR so much because of how recognizable it is and how nobody cares about SPD or Lightspeed Rescue or whatever, but you just proved why that's a dumb idea. Everybody remembers MMPR, but everybody thinks it's fucking lame. Great job shooting your own argument all this time in the foot. They should have been trying to appeal to the actual fans instead of trying to reach out to people who couldn't care less about the brand.
I think power rangers just didn't grow up with the fans
It did but it took a back wards step when saban bought it back
A fan should buy the property
DO WHAT ANNO DID WITH ULTRAMAN AND KAMEN RIDER
Dosm bro. Let it go my guy 😂. The series and its production refuses to grow up with its audience. These big name movie and tv brands always Carter to their fandom. Power Rangers is lost. It’s been lost. Same thing with Marvel, same thing with DC, same thing with Star Wars, same thing with Harry Potter, same thing with Disney/Pixar Animation, same thing with Indiana Jones, same thing with Ghost Busters. They refuse to give the fans what they want.
Thank god, someone else who sees the nonsense. Rebooting any series for some mythological "modern audience" is, and always has been, BS. How trash must this reboot series have been for Netflix to pull out.
Difference is marvel,dc,Star Wars are still relevant in pop culture while pr is no longer relevant
@Deity_devil Star wars isn't relevant anymore, nor is DC and marvel, they're all garbage and ran by activists who actively hate the fandom
@@Deity_devil totally agree with you there
@@Deity_devilDC and Star Wars are on their way out though, tbf
SAILOR MOON HAVE ONLOOK MY FRIEND AND POWER RANGERS NOT GET ONLOOK
You MedaRock!
I don’t care what anybody says, Power Rangers has consistently had way better theme songs than Super Sentai.
Then you have poor taste in music
@@MiXVoy Maybe better isn’t the right word but Power Rangers has had some pretty good theme songs, however Ninja Storm actually does have a better theme than its Sentai counterpart.
@@maximilianoayala2748PR didn't bother to make inserts and character songs
Personally - I would say that “Power Rangers” needs a “Hard-R” reboot treatment and one hell of a marketing campaign in the vain of “The Boys” - in the sense of how the latter property really cemented a place for itself in an extremely crowded superhero entertainment field.
As such, I still think “MMPR: The Movie” could’ve done this (in how the film upped the action and violence with the Oozemen versus Power Ranger fight scenes, and the “leap to our doom” segment) - yet instead it fell into the “gross out” and/or “shock value” humor trap with Ivan Ooze and Mordant, a trap that still haunts “Power Rangers” to this day (“Ninja Steel” being a prime example). This aforementioned “trap” thus ends up alienating audiences because overshadows everything else, and thus makes the entertainment property seem immature, and otherwise unfit for mature audiences.
I think Power Rangers needs stripping back to become Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and that in my mind is using the same formula that Mattel and Paramount have done with Masters of the Universe and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles respectively.
If you look at TMNT and MOTU, both very similar to MMPR being iconic kids brands from the 80s/90s. Each of those franchises have had in recent years, the kids that loved them as kids, take them on as adults - Kevin Smith with MOTU and Seth Rogan with TMNT.
So what next? Well if I were Hasbro, I'd cut my ties with it and sell it all off to the highest bidder - be that Netflix or Paramount. Hasbro right now need to contract and start selling off these brands if they want to succeed.
Secondly, Whoever takes the job to reintroduce MMPR - you build a team of creative people who loved MMPR and develop an ANIMATED, low budget origin story that is either a animated movie like TMNT Mutant Mayhem, Transformers One or Masters of the Universe: Revelations, you make it for the adults who were the obsessed kids in the 90s and hope that they now have their own kids to spawn a new show like TMNT: Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Playmates are coming with the toys, just like TMNT, their relationship with Paramount/Nickelodeon seems to be strong - and Power Rangers seems like it could be a good fit - but start small, keep things quiet until theres something to say.
Doing toys that are the same or better than the Japanese and just stick to adapting super sentai story to pr, because that's what pr is. Also they need to stop bringing mmpr back. Also releasing everything they show it the shows like super sentai does, also they should re-release older pr toy line's.
The thing is why should a company try and see a potential in a over 20 year franchise? PR should have showed there potential years ago
It did, in the 90s with MMPR. It was the biggest kids property on the planet for a few years.
30-year-old franchise.
At this point, it’s not that easy. Power Rangers popularity has went downhill, I think either Mystic Force or Operation Overdrive in the mid-2000’s and when the 2010’s came out, I think it went downhill with Dino Charge Season 2 in which lead to the 2017’s reboot movie flopping at the box office in which lead to Hasbro.
I agree, Power Rangers is the hardest brand to challenge because of its reputation of being like your “Babies first superhero type”.
@@aditbiju3717It went downhill way before that. People stopped taking it seriously once Turbo added a child ranger and In Space helped revive the franchise for a second but the damage was done.
I know how to make Power Rangers more popular. turn it into an anime.
That's kinda redundant
I think the difference of the perception of power rangers and tmnt is that it had went through different reincarnations for each different audience like the bay movies and the tmnt 2012 tv series unlike power rangers still not changing at that point