The Muhle R89 has to be one of the finest DE razors made. Of the six razors I own, it and a Feather AS D2 are my favorites. Thanks, Geo, for helping men around the world to return such a pleasing and rewarding ritual that was almost forgotten. Shaving before with plastic, throw-away multi-blade razors was a chore but now, shaving is something more like meditation. Very calming and soothing.
The Mühle R89 was my first "nice" DE razor after starting out with the Wilkinson Classic plastic razor. It is very mild but after revisiting it after neglecting it for some time I just fell in love with it again.
Went to a local store in Ludwigshafen, Germany yesterday with the determination to buy a Merkur 34c. I asked if I could have a look at the Merkur. After looking at the 34c, I asked for the Mühle R89, which would have been my second choice. What can I say, I went for the Mühle after all. It just felt better in my hands. Shaves really good!!
I don’t have Merkur or Edwin. I had one Muhle and I shaved day per day in a ship which smells gas( bad atmosphere). I have very sensitive skin. Muhle never ever make me any irritation in my skin..I lost the base cup. I will buy a new one. In my opinion one of the best safety razors for daily shave. Geo you are legend, you saved my face😂❤. Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷
i shave my head and face every single day. i've been using cartridge razors for little over a decade now and i cant tell you how expensive and tedious it is.... just bought the merkur 34c, box of 100 personna de razors, praraso cream, lather bowl, badger brush, and some towels. CANNOT WAIT to begin this journey!
I've used quite a few different razors over the past few years but I always go back to my 34C as my daily driver. All three of these are fantastic razors for people looking to get into wet shaving.
Also the *PARKER 87R* is an *exceptional* razor for beginners, it's super mild if you have sensitive skin and the butterfly doors make loading the blades a doddle, it's heavy and has great knurling on the handle, coupled with SHARK blades it really is a "gem" of a razor, and for what it costs it's definitely one to have in your collection.
I bought a Muhle R41as my first razor... It was such a bad decision (the most aggresive one on the planet). But my wife bought me today a R89, it was such a nice gift 😁 Thank you very much for this video, so other guys will start with a mild to medium razor.
My first razor was the DE89L. Owned for 6 years and finally dropped it and broke the threads on the head. Loved shaving with it. Already ordered the Merkur 34HD as a replacement. Looking forward to trying it out. Great video BTW. Thanks.
R89 Grande was my first razor and my eternal love lol. It’s just awesome. I put it aside while I went thru and experimented with other new razors and when I came back to it, I realize just how amazing it is. I absolutely love it. Works perfectly with many types of blades and will last 5 lifetimes.
After a few years experimenting with adjustables and then a couple years of a long-hair/stubble phase, I decided to get a haircut and become clean-shaven again. I went back to my beginner DE: the Oldcastle Butterfly Open. Flawless results.
Yeah, I can only find a couple pics of it on Google Images, and can't even find a website for Oldcastle Shaving Products. Anyway, yeah I used a Parker variant for a while, and it actually fell apart on me after a while. I then used a Viking Chieftain for a couple years, and it can also be buggy. My Oldcastle is just as reliable as ever, however.
Is it too aggressive? I need something on the milder side. Also you can fly with these? I was told you couldn’t. Also what blades do you suggest? Sorry for all the questions I’m new to wet shaving and I want to start but I have no ideas which one to get.
@@DerekJS82 I think the DE89 will last a lifetime. But to be honest my first DE was going to be the HD 34C until I Geo's vid on the DE89. He said "wow" like 10 times something he never did prior to that. That was all it took!
It would seem suggesting an adjustable razor (like the Rockwell 6C, Parker Variant or Merkur Progress) might be a better long-term option, since they'll better adapt to one's skill, skin sensitivity and beard growth.
Rockwell razors are overrated and unnecessarily expensive. The 6S isn't aggressive at all. I really don't get why everyone keeps making a fuss about it. I have the type of beard where I MUST use a brand new razor blade every time, and found the level 6 head to be really decent, but not enough to sway me to keep it at $100
@@JonBonesJones84 Search out the iKon Tek (Tech) or the Yaqi 'Knight Helmet' (SRH039 (My favorite of the Yaqi razor heads, as it holds the blade more securely)), 'Beast' (SRH013) or unnamed open comb slant razor heads (SRH030) -- which Shave Nation currently doesn't stock -- that all come close to the aggression of the iKon Tech. Or you could get a Merkur Futur and 'jailbreak' it to shave at '12'. Or look into an **adjustable** Single Edge razor, which use thicker Feather Artist Club (or Kai or Schick) single edge blades that last longer. One of these SE razors is a favorite, given the overall efficiency and smoothness, but in some areas it can't quite match the somewhat harsh iKon Tech. If none of those do the trick, one of the most aggressive options would be one of the Feather DX style razors (folding or kamisori) using a Feather Professional Super blade (which has extra depth), which promises facial damage in untrained hands. One day I might start out with the safer Feather SS kamisori razor (which has 'training wheels' near the blade edge).
@@borbetomagus Hi! I see you recommend a razor head from Yaqi too. I was wondering if you have tried their Double open comb razor head. What are your thoughts?
@@shayanali8771 I assume you're referring to the Yaqi 'Mellon' head (SRH011), which was probably inspired by the 'Grand Shave King Self Lubricating Razor' invented by Joseph M Mellon around 1945, that later inspired the Phoenix Accoutrements 'DOC' (Double Open Comb) razor. I have the 'DOC' and it is a mild razor, but (from what I remember) was not as efficient as I like. Given the price of Yaqi razor heads, you could try numerous options. I'm pretty certain their 'Beast' head uses their 'Mellon' top cap along with their DE89-like base plate (SRH012?) that (ironically, given both mild razors) produces quite an aggressive razor head.
Started with a DE89 with the black rubber handle as I thought it would have more grip and the long handle would be easier to transition from a Mach 3 as opposed to the shorter 34C. Works great, love it. I did get the 34C recently and really like it as well. I may like the head even more. In any case, Astra Greens and these razors are amazing. The Gillette Heritage has the 89 head and it is a nice mix of both - shorter handle but DE89 head.
Note that the Merkur 34 also come as a 34G version, where G stands for Gold. Bling bling! Very nice. (I have both the 34C and 34G, awesome razors.) The Mühle and the Ed Jagger have very similar shave heads, right? And that shave head is also very similar to the Gillette Heritage razor as I understand.
Geofatboy: A huge huge thank you. Thank you for putting this video out to give us some simple information on what razors you'd recommend to start out with Wet Shaving. The video took some stress out on what razor I'm going to get in the near future. Made my choice easier. I'd like to suggest that a complete update video be made on what products are available to use on wet shaving: what are beginner razor blades to start with, what are mild and aggressive razor blades, plus an idea of what costs are associated with blades. Shaving brushes, what is boar, badger and even synthetic brushes, differences and prices. And finally soaps, pucks, or sticks of shaving creams available plus what you'd recommend and their prices. There's so much (an overload of) information and products its very confusing to know what's what and its price association. For Someone like me, a video like this will help tremendously and eliminate confusion, stress when figuring out what to get when starting wet shaving. It may be a long video, but it would help out more than you know to myself and others.. The simpler the info and explanation of it would be of great great use. I hope this video can be done and hopefully it would bring some business to ShaveNation.Com! Thank You!👍👍😎😎
When I saw searching for a safety razor Edwin Jagger rang a bell and I couldn't figure out why. A few days later realised; I park outside the factory every Sunday before I walk up the hill to worship.
Great video, really informative, I really appreciate that you spoke about the durability of the different razors. My old butterfly razor lost it's screw when I dropped it, and I've been looking for a replacement that's more durable.
The 34c always causes me irritation on my neck. So did the Parker Variant even on setting 1. Only the r89 does not cause me any irritation. Yes it is the mildest razor I’ve used, but that might be a good thing for some. It’s perfect for everyday or every other day shaving. For more than a few days growth, I like to do the first pass with a more aggressive razor then switch to the r89.
The only 3 i own, are a Gilette King C, a Bluebeard Cutlass and now an R41. All 3 have their own benefits imho, although i think the Cutlass has now been made redundant by the R41. Also the King C is good for me for a quick whip round with only a day's growth
I have never used a safety razor, but after watching your videos will buy one. My question is why not start with an advance/professional razor, is it that difficult to use? (I don't want to keep buying different ones, the main point is to safe money)
I started with an Edwin Jagger DE89 because I heard “ it’s a great beginner razor”. But it was far too mild for me. I saved some coin and bought an Edwin Jagger 3ONE6. It’s not even an “aggressive” razor but it’s far more EFFICIENT. I also like my RazoRock Mamba 70 for times when I shave more often or want a close AND mild shave.
Very nice choices there, Geo. My first safety razor was the EJ DE89. My razor collection addiction was started there. ;) So many great razors, so little time! Thanks for sharing the video.
I mean, they are the recommended beginner razors but ai believe that if you are careful you can do it with any. I started with a muhle r41 and absolutely love it. No regrets.
Thank you Geo for getting me into DE shaving! You have opened my eyes and I'll never go back to "the other way". I'm still training my ninja moves on the 34C as per your recommendation and strive to become a DE samurai like yourself in time.
Greetings from Greece, nice videos 👏. I am a beginner in classic saving. I just ordered the Rockwell 2c instead of the qshave. Is that a good choice-razor? It seems from videos very solid and nice build.
I still love my starter razor the Rockwell R-1. With the TTO barn doors they couldn’t havevidiot proofed it any more than they did (Something I desperately needed)
1. What is the difference with the merker, feather and mule razors blades that are shipped with the products? 2. What do you mean by "mild to medium" shaving? 3. How often on an average should the blades be replaced?
Nice video Geo. Nice razors suggestion. I prefer for begginers adjustable razors. What about exprience shavers buddy? You have to make an video for top 5 five razors suggestion for exprienced shavers.
The iKon Tech (Tek) would probably be at the top of the heap, though the Yaqi 'Knight Helmet' (SRH039), 'Beast' (SRH013) and open comb slant razor heads (SRH030) -- which Shave Nation currently doesn't stock -- come close. /watch?v=exXSX_UiZPc
Quick question, the Merkur 34c HD is apparently the same as the 38c but the 38c is longer. Would the 38c also be a recommendation alongside the 34c if the handle is too short for a beginner?
Hi geofatboy, how are u? Hope you ok. Im suffering with psoriasis vulgaris for 21 years. So; i had wet shaving in 2 years. My question is; what is your favorite balm and what do you recommend for me? Hope that u respond it. Hopefully have a great year for all of us ( without corona )
I just want to thank you buddy. I bought the "Parker 22R" a couple of weeks ago (on the 2nd of April) and received it yesterday. EDIT: I gotta say; it was also very quick to arrive, considering there's the pandemic and I live abroad. I shaved my first time with the safety razor today and MY GOD what a difference. It just felt really natural... I didn't need to fight with the razor and yank it back and forth just for a single hair that wouldn't come out. Just a couple of strokes and GONE! I did cut my chin a little bit, but I had a pimple growing, so bear with me :P Oh and if you're like me and you have VERY sensitive skin, I can say I wasn't red at all after shaving. I'd usually be all red after shaving... Again.... thanks a LOT! PS - Anyone who's thinking of getting one of these bad boys... I got the "365 Day Kit: Parker 22R Safety Razor Set". I highly recommend it!
Hi Geofatby! I was wondering if you could also make a video on the best double edge blades ranging from smooth to very sharp. I have sensitive skin and even with these great razors you mentioned, I still get razor burns. My technique is alright and the best blades for me was Gillette 7'O clock Stainless. But I still would like to prefer a smooth blade. What will be your recommendations?
@geofatboy Thank you so much for the content that you upload to help all of us out. I have become disgruntled with the Fusion 5 Powerglide. (Cartridges used to be good, but things have changed.) I am looking for a safety razor (on a budget) that gives great control and maneuverability (getting into all the nooks and crannies) and has the ability to get really close. (Babie's bottom smooth.) What would you recommend. I also have a small mole on the left side of my jaw that does protrude very slightly. . Would a DE blade be a able to handle the roadbumps without lopping it off? Thanks again for the content and your knowledge. P.S. Knowing that products tend to change rapidly, have you found companies that habe maintained a level of consistency with their blades over the years? Last but not least, are there any budget safety razors on the market that you feel compete well with the more expensive heavy hitters?
These razors will be great for you and check out my videos on shaving your trouble spots. •R89: bit.ly/R89RazorSN •SN3D: bit.ly/SN3DSafetyRazorBlackChrome •DE89: bit.ly/DE89RazorSN •34C- bit.ly/HD34CRazorSN •Rockwell 6C: bit.ly/Rockwell6CSafetyRazorSN
Hey, have two quick questions. I’m trying to get into straight razors I’ve been using a shavette for around a year as well as a safety razor. I can never shave up on my neck without the shavette skipping on my skin and nicking me. I was wondering if this was the weight of the shavette because it is so light. I am thinking of getting a straight razor around $100-$200 if I can shave against the grain up on my neck without it skipping it would be great. So far I get a closer shave from a shavette because I can go against the grain without is skipping.
I just got a Merkur 39C slant bar razor. This slant bar prevents skipping or blade chattering which I often experience on more agressive razors. You may try a slant razor to solve your problem.
Kinda surprised that Rockwell 6c didn't make the top 3 since it's adjustable and thus likely to suit ya. My first was a King C Gillette razor but the Rockwell are like on a whole new level in my opinion
Nice video however in terms of 'Beginners' razor, I am surprised more don't promote the Rockwell 6c or 6s, being adaptable and ridiculously easy to use without incident.
Hello how are you Geo, nice suggestion, kindly review Parker 94r and Merkur 37c razors again sometime as these both are my preferred and razors anyway I like Merkur 37c more, thanks and regards.
I have the futur and it's a regretful buy. It won't let you get close under the nose as it's just too big. Price wise, the 3 he recommended are more than enough
Everyone will ask himself "If a company just sells a razor and it last for a lifetime, how do they make profit by selling items of 30-40$ per customer". It is addictive, no one buys just one razor. Keep going Geo!
After watching several videos on safety razors, I’ve gone with the Merkur 34c and after just one week of use, I love it but here’s where things get complicated. I’m using the razor that came with it but there’s some many double edge razor blades on the market and I’m looking for one that’s specifically meant for sensitive skin. Any recommendations?
I was checking out a replacement head for my Mühle R89 and interestingly the product description claims that it's compatible with Edwin Jagger razors, as well as other two-piece Mühle ones. Unfortunately I can't confirm whether that is the case.
I’d say a Gillette Tech or SuperSpeed “Flare Tip” would both be excellent choices for a Beginner. Also can’t go wrong with a Gillette FatBoy-Slim or a Parker Variant 💈😁👍💈 And of corse the 34C & DE89
Not easy to get gillette vintage razors not an good idea. I think adjustable razors can be better choice like Merkur progress, Parker variant, Futur etc. Begginers need to start from lowest settings.
Paul Schneider Yes, the Gillettes are out of production, but the tech, super speed are very avaiulable on Ebay and in excellent shape for good price. I have the 3 GEO recommends and they are good; but I would rate the Gillettes better; and I use them more. Paid $18 for unused tech and 30 for a mint superspeed and they are great. Also use the Fatboy adjustable and slim adjustable. If i want to shave and not think or for that matter be very careful, i use the tech and a gentle blade like the Astra or the Gillette Wilkinson Sword and I get a great smooth shave, no irritaion and no cuts. there is reason the US gave millions of troops this razor for WWII and why the 1917 open comb (just look at geometry similarity less the comb) was what the WWI troops shaved with. There is replica tech that is made for about 10 bucks that is as good a copy as you can get.
Trust me, look no further than the Parker 87R, it's based on the Gillette Aristocrat 66. If your new to DE shaving give this one a go with Shark super stainless blades, it gives one of the mildest, smoothest shaves ever. You won't regret it.
Man I bought a Muller R89 twist last week thought I do my first razor shave ever I used the proraso cream first then proraso soap cut myself in about five places I have a massive rash around the mouth doing something wrong……
@@geofatboy Thanks mate guess what I just had another go but I switched to a Wilkinson sword blade in the R89 twist followed your video perfectly finished off riding the cap Zero cuts perfect result….!!!!
Hi Geo, I want to convert my girlfriend to the church of the safety razor. I gave here my Mühle R89 but she isn't very happy with it. Can you recommend a DE razor for the girls? Greetings from Germany Heiko
I apologize if this is a dumb question, but when you talk about a safety razor being mild to medium, what specifically are you referring to? The ability of the razor to cut through thick or coarse stubble? If this is the case, wouldn't the quality of the blade itself rather than the ability of the safety razor be what influences whether a razor is considered mild or not? I'm pretty new to the world of wet shaving, just trying to figure out a good beginner razor, definitely leaning more towards the Merkur HD, just want to know what makes a razor good for a beginner and why I should steer clear of certain other razors for now until I have more experience. Thanks everyone who takes the time to help me out
How wide the opening is and how far out the blade sits sort of define if it will be a mild shave or aggressive. You will find high quality razor sit somewhere in the middle providing good protection but a good level of cut as well. Quality of the blade does count as well. So if you have sensitive skin finding a razor with a mild cut and a blade with a mild cut that are are paired together can get a good cut and feel mild.
Until Shave Nation gets them restocked, iKon ShaveCraft has (finally) restocked the iKon Tek (Tech) head and iKon ShaveCraft Tek Razor. It seems to have been over a year since even they (or anyone else) has offered them.
Yea so ive seen, too bad they dont ship to where I live, I gather the ikon tech beats r41 in the aggressiveness game but still offers a smoother shave.
@@jamalabdo4660 On iKon Shaving's home page they have a notice stating : "amazing shaves are available direct from us. shipping anywhere in the world. contact us for international shipment." Their normal order process won't allow international shipping, but the notice on their home page sounds like they'll make exceptions if you contact them by their email address.
The Muhle R89 has to be one of the finest DE razors made. Of the six razors I own, it and a Feather AS D2 are my favorites. Thanks, Geo, for helping men around the world to return such a pleasing and rewarding ritual that was almost forgotten. Shaving before with plastic, throw-away multi-blade razors was a chore but now, shaving is something more like meditation. Very calming and soothing.
Well said.
My favorite R89 close comb
The Mühle R89 was my first "nice" DE razor after starting out with the Wilkinson Classic plastic razor.
It is very mild but after revisiting it after neglecting it for some time I just fell in love with it again.
Exactly as I did...
@@georgekyriakopoulos8966 I use the R89 Grande - even better.
Have the same razor. It is effective only with a nice blade, like Feather or Voshkod.
There's no razor handle nor blade that lets you to have a perfect shave that you want in one pass, so any perceived "mildness" doesn't matter.
Went to a local store in Ludwigshafen, Germany yesterday with the determination to buy a Merkur 34c. I asked if I could have a look at the Merkur. After looking at the 34c, I asked for the Mühle R89, which would have been my second choice.
What can I say, I went for the Mühle after all. It just felt better in my hands.
Shaves really good!!
greetings from Greece gents! I will buy my first razon soon!
When
I got started with a Merkur 34C, I still use and love that razor!
Please what is better Mercure 34 or Edwin jager 89 DE???
I don’t have Merkur or Edwin. I had one Muhle and I shaved day per day in a ship which smells gas( bad atmosphere). I have very sensitive skin. Muhle never ever make me any irritation in my skin..I lost the base cup. I will buy a new one. In my opinion one of the best safety razors for daily shave. Geo you are legend, you saved my face😂❤. Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷
i shave my head and face every single day. i've been using cartridge razors for little over a decade now and i cant tell you how expensive and tedious it is....
just bought the merkur 34c, box of 100 personna de razors, praraso cream, lather bowl, badger brush, and some towels. CANNOT WAIT to begin this journey!
Thanks for sharing Dizz! Enjoy!
These videos are therapeutic.
I've used quite a few different razors over the past few years but I always go back to my 34C as my daily driver.
All three of these are fantastic razors for people looking to get into wet shaving.
I absolutely agree-number one is Merkur 34C HD!
Also the *PARKER 87R* is an *exceptional* razor for beginners, it's super mild if you have sensitive skin and the butterfly doors make loading the blades a doddle, it's heavy and has great knurling on the handle, coupled with SHARK blades it really is a "gem" of a razor, and for what it costs it's definitely one to have in your collection.
Oh ok might have to look into this one. I originally wanted to get the Parker 22 R
@@arey256 They both have the same head, all Parker TTO's share the same head design, just different handles.👍
@@icecold2042 really? Thanks for letting me know. Idk that
Received my Mulhe R89 razor and blades yesterday after a Sunday order. Quick delivery! First shave this morning! Nice and smooth after two passes.
I bought a Muhle R41as my first razor... It was such a bad decision (the most aggresive one on the planet). But my wife bought me today a R89, it was such a nice gift 😁
Thank you very much for this video, so other guys will start with a mild to medium razor.
My first razor was the DE89L. Owned for 6 years and finally dropped it and broke the threads on the head. Loved shaving with it. Already ordered the Merkur 34HD as a replacement. Looking forward to trying it out. Great video BTW. Thanks.
How 34hd?
@@vb7216 It's great! Honestly, I wish I would have started with it first. The weight and size feels perfect for my hand.
I’ve got the Merkur 34G. Beautiful razor, both in terms of performance and aesthetics.
This would be my 2nd razor if I ever want to get another one, love the gold.
same. very nice razor
R89 Grande was my first razor and my eternal love lol. It’s just awesome. I put it aside while I went thru and experimented with other new razors and when I came back to it, I realize just how amazing it is. I absolutely love it. Works perfectly with many types of blades and will last 5 lifetimes.
It will not as it is made of zamak
After a few years experimenting with adjustables and then a couple years of a long-hair/stubble phase, I decided to get a haircut and become clean-shaven again. I went back to my beginner DE: the Oldcastle Butterfly Open. Flawless results.
Never heard of that one... English?
Yeah, I can only find a couple pics of it on Google Images, and can't even find a website for Oldcastle Shaving Products. Anyway, yeah I used a Parker variant for a while, and it actually fell apart on me after a while. I then used a Viking Chieftain for a couple years, and it can also be buggy. My Oldcastle is just as reliable as ever, however.
And my winner is the Merkur 34C best for shaving and excellent for travelling.
Is it too aggressive? I need something on the milder side. Also you can fly with these? I was told you couldn’t. Also what blades do you suggest? Sorry for all the questions I’m new to wet shaving and I want to start but I have no ideas which one to get.
Wow! So the DE89 is still popular, good looking and reliable razor . After almost 10 years it still looks good and shaves great. Wow! As Geo said.
I've had mine for 6 years and still kicking
@@DerekJS82 I think the DE89 will last a lifetime. But to be honest my first DE was going to be the HD 34C until I Geo's vid on the DE89. He said "wow" like 10 times something he never did prior to that. That was all it took!
They both are made of zamak, so quite fragile and not long lasting
I've had the Mühle R89 'grande' for 5 years - With a Feather blade the best razor I've ever owned 😊👌🏼
Hans Jensen simple but efficient
Kafasız Adam Absolutely right buddy & I always go back to this one because of that 👍🏻
I just ordered one tonight hopefully I’ll enjoy it too
Thats a long time for one blade!
How much are the blades? And how often do you shave with it?
Love the shave nation wrist band
It would seem suggesting an adjustable razor (like the Rockwell 6C, Parker Variant or Merkur Progress) might be a better long-term option, since they'll better adapt to one's skill, skin sensitivity and beard growth.
Rockwell razors are overrated and unnecessarily expensive. The 6S isn't aggressive at all. I really don't get why everyone keeps making a fuss about it. I have the type of beard where I MUST use a brand new razor blade every time, and found the level 6 head to be really decent, but not enough to sway me to keep it at $100
@@JonBonesJones84 Search out the iKon Tek (Tech) or the Yaqi 'Knight Helmet' (SRH039 (My favorite of the Yaqi razor heads, as it holds the blade more securely)), 'Beast' (SRH013) or unnamed open comb slant razor heads (SRH030) -- which Shave Nation currently doesn't stock -- that all come close to the aggression of the iKon Tech. Or you could get a Merkur Futur and 'jailbreak' it to shave at '12'. Or look into an **adjustable** Single Edge razor, which use thicker Feather Artist Club (or Kai or Schick) single edge blades that last longer. One of these SE razors is a favorite, given the overall efficiency and smoothness, but in some areas it can't quite match the somewhat harsh iKon Tech. If none of those do the trick, one of the most aggressive options would be one of the Feather DX style razors (folding or kamisori) using a Feather Professional Super blade (which has extra depth), which promises facial damage in untrained hands. One day I might start out with the safer Feather SS kamisori razor (which has 'training wheels' near the blade edge).
@@borbetomagus Hi! I see you recommend a razor head from Yaqi too. I was wondering if you have tried their Double open comb razor head. What are your thoughts?
@@shayanali8771 I assume you're referring to the Yaqi 'Mellon' head (SRH011), which was probably inspired by the 'Grand Shave King Self Lubricating Razor' invented by Joseph M Mellon around 1945, that later inspired the Phoenix Accoutrements 'DOC' (Double Open Comb) razor. I have the 'DOC' and it is a mild razor, but (from what I remember) was not as efficient as I like. Given the price of Yaqi razor heads, you could try numerous options. I'm pretty certain their 'Beast' head uses their 'Mellon' top cap along with their DE89-like base plate (SRH012?) that (ironically, given both mild razors) produces quite an aggressive razor head.
thanks and greetings from Germany. Peter
I have an Edwin Jagger DE8 which is basically the DE89 with a black octagonal handle. Fabulous razor!
Started with a DE89 with the black rubber handle as I thought it would have more grip and the long handle would be easier to transition from a Mach 3 as opposed to the shorter 34C. Works great, love it. I did get the 34C recently and really like it as well. I may like the head even more. In any case, Astra Greens and these razors are amazing. The Gillette Heritage has the 89 head and it is a nice mix of both - shorter handle but DE89 head.
i bought 2 months ago the edwin jagger 89 with the short knurled handle and i love it (my first DE razor)
Note that the Merkur 34 also come as a 34G version, where G stands for Gold. Bling bling! Very nice. (I have both the 34C and 34G, awesome razors.) The Mühle and the Ed Jagger have very similar shave heads, right? And that shave head is also very similar to the Gillette Heritage razor as I understand.
Geofatboy:
A huge huge thank you. Thank you for putting this video out to give us some simple information on what razors you'd recommend to start out with Wet Shaving.
The video took some stress out on what razor I'm going to get in the near future. Made my choice easier.
I'd like to suggest that a complete update video be made on what products are available to use on wet shaving: what are beginner razor blades to start with, what are mild and aggressive razor blades, plus an idea of what costs are associated with blades.
Shaving brushes, what is boar, badger and even synthetic brushes, differences and prices.
And finally soaps, pucks, or sticks of shaving creams available plus what you'd recommend and their prices.
There's so much (an overload of) information and products its very confusing to know what's what and its price association.
For Someone like me, a video like this will help tremendously and eliminate confusion, stress when figuring out what to get when starting wet shaving.
It may be a long video, but it would help out more than you know to myself and others.. The simpler the info and explanation of it would be of great great use.
I hope this video can be done and hopefully it would bring some business to ShaveNation.Com!
Thank You!👍👍😎😎
R41 was my first de razor. It has taken chunks out of my head but im getting less and less cuts now
By far most aggressive razor in the game however you can get just as a close shave with other heads/razors which was way more gentle.
Thanks Geo for another very good video and pro advice. Please keep it going. Regards from Tel Aviv ))
Love my 34C, so far its the one i use the most.
There is EJ DE89KN14BL which has knurled hand like te Muhle R89. I'm using it and it's fantastic :D
I'm new to safety razors, i got Muhle r106 which i think is the same as r89 just with a rubber handle. So far i like it!
Just got the Merker 38C and I love it thanks Geo
DE89 great razor indeed and your choices are really cool for beginners. Great video.
Cheers
When I saw searching for a safety razor Edwin Jagger rang a bell and I couldn't figure out why. A few days later realised; I park outside the factory every Sunday before I walk up the hill to worship.
Hi Geo, three great razors for those who start but also for those who are already experts. 👍🇮🇹🇺🇸👋
Solid choices Geo! Can’t go wrong with any of those razors:)
Great video, love your content and your shaving supplies I buy from you all the time
Great video, really informative, I really appreciate that you spoke about the durability of the different razors. My old butterfly razor lost it's screw when I dropped it, and I've been looking for a replacement that's more durable.
I use the Merkur 34C and I love it.
I use a Merkur 38C, which to me is the longer and heavier version of the 34C. The 38C is my favorite.
The 38c is also my favorite and go to razor.
Hi Geo- Solid choices, all-around! I started with the 34HD, as well! Take good care and best regards, as always!
The 34c always causes me irritation on my neck. So did the Parker Variant even on setting 1. Only the r89 does not cause me any irritation. Yes it is the mildest razor I’ve used, but that might be a good thing for some. It’s perfect for everyday or every other day shaving. For more than a few days growth, I like to do the first pass with a more aggressive razor then switch to the r89.
The only 3 i own, are a Gilette King C, a Bluebeard Cutlass and now an R41.
All 3 have their own benefits imho, although i think the Cutlass has now been made redundant by the R41.
Also the King C is good for me for a quick whip round with only a day's growth
Really hope Merkur will recontinue HD11C razor.
Me too!
Jagger 89 l find fantastic . I use many aggressive razors ,but go back to the jagger for a nice relaxing shave.
Nice!
I have never used a safety razor, but after watching your videos will buy one. My question is why not start with an advance/professional razor, is it that difficult to use? (I don't want to keep buying different ones, the main point is to safe money)
I started with an Edwin Jagger DE89 because I heard “ it’s a great beginner razor”.
But it was far too mild for me. I saved some coin and bought an Edwin Jagger 3ONE6. It’s not even an “aggressive” razor but it’s far more EFFICIENT. I also like my RazoRock Mamba 70 for times when I shave more often or want a close AND mild shave.
Very nice choices there, Geo.
My first safety razor was the EJ DE89. My razor collection addiction was started there. ;)
So many great razors, so little time! Thanks for sharing the video.
I mean, they are the recommended beginner razors but ai believe that if you are careful you can do it with any. I started with a muhle r41 and absolutely love it. No regrets.
Thank you Geo for getting me into DE shaving! You have opened my eyes and I'll never go back to "the other way". I'm still training my ninja moves on the 34C as per your recommendation and strive to become a DE samurai like yourself in time.
Greetings from Greece, nice videos 👏. I am a beginner in classic saving. I just ordered the Rockwell 2c instead of the qshave. Is that a good choice-razor? It seems from videos very solid and nice build.
Greetings! best from the USA. 2C is a good choice!
I still love my starter razor the Rockwell R-1. With the TTO barn doors they couldn’t havevidiot proofed it any more than they did (Something I desperately needed)
What about king c Gillette? It's pretty cheap and made well, some say that r89 head.
Can you please do MAHOGANY WOOD 4 EDGE SAFETY RAZOR vs 98R SAFETY RAZOR?
What's that and where can I see it?
1. What is the difference with the merker, feather and mule razors blades that are shipped with the products?
2. What do you mean by "mild to medium" shaving?
3. How often on an average should the blades be replaced?
2. How harsh the shave is.
Great trio man. I started with Wilkinson sword and it does the job. I think i'll take the Muehle as well.
Great shave Geo!
Nice video Geo. Nice razors suggestion. I prefer for begginers adjustable razors. What about exprience shavers buddy? You have to make an video for top 5 five razors suggestion for exprienced shavers.
The iKon Tech (Tek) would probably be at the top of the heap, though the Yaqi 'Knight Helmet' (SRH039), 'Beast' (SRH013) and open comb slant razor heads (SRH030) -- which Shave Nation currently doesn't stock -- come close.
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couldn't the merkur 23c be pretty much the same as the 34c?
Quick question, the Merkur 34c HD is apparently the same as the 38c but the 38c is longer. Would the 38c also be a recommendation alongside the 34c if the handle is too short for a beginner?
Another great video, thank you for the content. Keep up the good work
Hi geofatboy, how are u? Hope you ok. Im suffering with psoriasis vulgaris for 21 years. So; i had wet shaving in 2 years. My question is; what is your favorite balm and what do you recommend for me? Hope that u respond it. Hopefully have a great year for all of us ( without corona )
I've had psoriasis for 30 years and use Nivea men sensitive post shave balm.I've had no problems with it hope this helps.
Im diggin the luminox watch geo, cool as all hell.
I just want to thank you buddy. I bought the "Parker 22R" a couple of weeks ago (on the 2nd of April) and received it yesterday.
EDIT: I gotta say; it was also very quick to arrive, considering there's the pandemic and I live abroad.
I shaved my first time with the safety razor today and MY GOD what a difference. It just felt really natural... I didn't need to fight with the razor and yank it back and forth just for a single hair that wouldn't come out. Just a couple of strokes and GONE!
I did cut my chin a little bit, but I had a pimple growing, so bear with me :P
Oh and if you're like me and you have VERY sensitive skin, I can say I wasn't red at all after shaving. I'd usually be all red after shaving...
Again.... thanks a LOT!
PS - Anyone who's thinking of getting one of these bad boys... I got the "365 Day Kit: Parker 22R Safety Razor Set". I highly recommend it!
I love my EJD89
Hi Geofatby! I was wondering if you could also make a video on the best double edge blades ranging from smooth to very sharp. I have sensitive skin and even with these great razors you mentioned, I still get razor burns. My technique is alright and the best blades for me was Gillette 7'O clock Stainless. But I still would like to prefer a smooth blade. What will be your recommendations?
Try BIC blades, smooth and sharp blades made in Greece and my personal choice. Astra Platinum are popular blades made in Russia.
The Fatip Testina Gentile is also a good option as a starter razor
I started with a Merkur 33 and if I were to choose again I'd get the 34c. The 33's nice but the simpler the better and 2-piece beats 3 in my book.
Geo. The 38c is the long handle version of the 34c.
Greetz from Poland!
Great Razors , specially 34C !
@geofatboy
Thank you so much for the content that you upload to help all of us out. I have become disgruntled with the Fusion 5 Powerglide. (Cartridges used to be good, but things have changed.) I am looking for a safety razor (on a budget) that gives great control and maneuverability (getting into all the nooks and crannies) and has the ability to get really close. (Babie's bottom smooth.) What would you recommend. I also have a small mole on the left side of my jaw that does protrude very slightly. . Would a DE blade be a able to handle the roadbumps without lopping it off?
Thanks again for the content and your knowledge.
P.S. Knowing that products tend to change rapidly, have you found companies that habe maintained a level of consistency with their blades over the years? Last but not least, are there any budget safety razors on the market that you feel compete well with the more expensive heavy hitters?
These razors will be great for you and check out my videos on shaving your trouble spots.
•R89: bit.ly/R89RazorSN
•SN3D: bit.ly/SN3DSafetyRazorBlackChrome
•DE89: bit.ly/DE89RazorSN
•34C- bit.ly/HD34CRazorSN
•Rockwell 6C: bit.ly/Rockwell6CSafetyRazorSN
@@geofatboy Thank you so much Geo! I really appreciate it.
Thank you for the reviews!! What about 3 best adjustable razors? Non vitage :-)
My first safety razor was a Park 22R and I still use it once in a while to this day, works awesome another option, I think, for a starting razor :D
I was thinking of getting it as it looks awesome in gunmetal and I want another razor besides my VDH.
What will you recomend that is slightly more aggressive/efficent than the muhle rocca? Say 15-20% more aggressive/efficent.
Hey, have two quick questions. I’m trying to get into straight razors I’ve been using a shavette for around a year as well as a safety razor. I can never shave up on my neck without the shavette skipping on my skin and nicking me. I was wondering if this was the weight of the shavette because it is so light. I am thinking of getting a straight razor around $100-$200 if I can shave against the grain up on my neck without it skipping it would be great. So far I get a closer shave from a shavette because I can go against the grain without is skipping.
I just got a Merkur 39C slant bar razor. This slant bar prevents skipping or blade chattering which I often experience on more agressive razors. You may try a slant razor to solve your problem.
great video, do you have a list of your personal favorites or top 3 ?
HD 34C!
Is it better to buy Merrkur 34c or 38c?
If you have big hands-38C bit.ly/Merkur38CSN
Can you also recommend top 3 razor blades too please Geo
Kinda surprised that Rockwell 6c didn't make the top 3 since it's adjustable and thus likely to suit ya.
My first was a King C Gillette razor but the Rockwell are like on a whole new level in my opinion
Nice video however in terms of 'Beginners' razor, I am surprised more don't promote the Rockwell 6c or 6s, being adaptable and ridiculously easy to use without incident.
Hello how are you Geo, nice suggestion, kindly review Parker 94r and Merkur 37c razors again sometime as these both are my preferred and razors anyway I like Merkur 37c more, thanks and regards.
Nice Luminox man! Check out the Citizen Skyhawk.
You are a good guy, Geo......I enjoy doing business with you....
JimmyZ
I recommend the Merkur Futur adjustable: start out at 1 and work your way up to 3 or even 6. There's no other razor that gives you a closer shave.
I have the futur and it's a regretful buy. It won't let you get close under the nose as it's just too big.
Price wise, the 3 he recommended are more than enough
Everyone will ask himself "If a company just sells a razor and it last for a lifetime, how do they make profit by selling items of 30-40$ per customer". It is addictive, no one buys just one razor. Keep going Geo!
Thank you for your support!
After watching several videos on safety razors, I’ve gone with the Merkur 34c and after just one week of use, I love it but here’s where things get complicated. I’m using the razor that came with it but there’s some many double edge razor blades on the market and I’m looking for one that’s specifically meant for sensitive skin. Any recommendations?
I was checking out a replacement head for my Mühle R89 and interestingly the product description claims that it's compatible with Edwin Jagger razors, as well as other two-piece Mühle ones. Unfortunately I can't confirm whether that is the case.
The EJ DE89 and the MUHLE R89 have the exact same head. It's only difference is the handle 👍
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Thanks - that's useful to know.
Id actually like to try a 3ONE6 someday. Nice watch btw. ⌚️👍🏼
I’d say a Gillette Tech or SuperSpeed “Flare Tip” would both be excellent choices for a Beginner. Also can’t go wrong with a Gillette FatBoy-Slim or a Parker Variant
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And of corse the 34C & DE89
Not easy to get gillette vintage razors not an good idea. I think adjustable razors can be better choice like Merkur progress, Parker variant, Futur etc. Begginers need to start from lowest settings.
Paul Schneider
Yes, the Gillettes are out of production, but the tech, super speed are very avaiulable on Ebay and in excellent shape for good price. I have the 3 GEO recommends and they are good; but I would rate the Gillettes better; and I use them more. Paid $18 for unused tech and 30 for a mint superspeed and they are great. Also use the Fatboy adjustable and slim adjustable. If i want to shave and not think or for that matter be very careful, i use the tech and a gentle blade like the Astra or the Gillette Wilkinson Sword and I get a great smooth shave, no irritaion and no cuts. there is reason the US gave millions of troops this razor for WWII and why the 1917 open comb (just look at geometry similarity less the comb) was what the WWI troops shaved with. There is replica tech that is made for about 10 bucks that is as good a copy as you can get.
Trust me, look no further than the Parker 87R, it's based on the Gillette Aristocrat 66. If your new to DE shaving give this one a go with Shark super stainless blades, it gives one of the mildest, smoothest shaves ever. You won't regret it.
How many time you change the blade? every shave or two time to three?
Which adjustable razor would you recommend?
Eza sarlak Shi ba3den bte3tal ham de8re bta3ref I trust myself I love myself. Compulsions won't change anything
Man I bought a Muller R89 twist last week thought I do my first razor shave ever
I used the proraso cream first then proraso soap cut myself in about five places I have a massive rash around the mouth doing something wrong……
Prep, Sharp Blade, Angle, and it can take a while for your face to become accustomed to any new method of shaving.
@@geofatboy thanks all the best from Melbourne Australia - great videos keep it up mate…!!
@@geofatboy Thanks mate guess what I just had another go but I switched to a Wilkinson sword blade in the R89 twist followed your video perfectly finished off riding the cap
Zero cuts perfect result….!!!!
Will the next video be a Merkur 23C vs. Merkur 25C?
Hi Geo,
I want to convert my girlfriend to the church of the safety razor.
I gave here my Mühle R89 but she isn't very happy with it. Can you recommend a DE razor for the girls?
Greetings from Germany
Heiko
I apologize if this is a dumb question, but when you talk about a safety razor being mild to medium, what specifically are you referring to? The ability of the razor to cut through thick or coarse stubble? If this is the case, wouldn't the quality of the blade itself rather than the ability of the safety razor be what influences whether a razor is considered mild or not? I'm pretty new to the world of wet shaving, just trying to figure out a good beginner razor, definitely leaning more towards the Merkur HD, just want to know what makes a razor good for a beginner and why I should steer clear of certain other razors for now until I have more experience. Thanks everyone who takes the time to help me out
How wide the opening is and how far out the blade sits sort of define if it will be a mild shave or aggressive.
You will find high quality razor sit somewhere in the middle providing good protection but a good level of cut as well. Quality of the blade does count as well. So if you have sensitive skin finding a razor with a mild cut and a blade with a mild cut that are are paired together can get a good cut and feel mild.
Geofatboy im desperate to find an ikon tech, i checked your website but i had no luck,,,,, when do you expect to stock up??? All the best
Until Shave Nation gets them restocked, iKon ShaveCraft has (finally) restocked the iKon Tek (Tech) head and iKon ShaveCraft Tek Razor. It seems to have been over a year since even they (or anyone else) has offered them.
Yea so ive seen, too bad they dont ship to where I live, I gather the ikon tech beats r41 in the aggressiveness game but still offers a smoother shave.
@@jamalabdo4660 On iKon Shaving's home page they have a notice stating : "amazing shaves are available direct from us. shipping anywhere in the world. contact us for international shipment." Their normal order process won't allow international shipping, but the notice on their home page sounds like they'll make exceptions if you contact them by their email address.