Endless Lore: Who are the Cravers? (Necrophages Theory)
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Another theory: In the necrophage intro video it says that auriga is their planet since they were the first there. Could the virtual endless have taken a small number of necrophages to become cravers?
Hey everybody,
Just to let you all know, I am still alive and as well as I could be considering the times we live in.
I do not currently have the tools or software to start making/creating/uploading content right now. For perspective, I currently cannot play any Endless games.
That’s not to say I wouldn’t like to come back, however. On the contrary, it’s something I fantasise about quite frequently. When that will be is down to luck, fate, or maybe even how soon the apocalypse happens.
If I were to return, it currently could not be creating videos of the same “quality” as the Endless Lore videos.
But.... i could make other lore videos about games/worlds I AM able to play. Is that something that people might like?
I’m sorry for being gone so long.
Endless Space 2 Lore.
I think it would be interesting to hear your take on whatever your able to play. That said, make sure it's something you actually WANT to make a video on, because if your just making a video to make a video the lore just doesn't have as much impact as it would if you genuinely enjoyed it. That's just my way of saying, don't force yourself xD
A variation on theory 2 might be possible: The Cravers and Necrophages share a common ancestor, the insectoid species the Endless subjected to genetic manipulation. The Necrophages would be the descendants of those left behind on Auriga when the Virtuals began further enhancing others and giving them the ability to travel between stars.
Of course, if the Husk of Knowledge was a research facility controlled by the Concrete alone, then the Necrophages could indeed be the descendants of the Cravers, while Auriga would have been the planet that the Virtuals unleashed the Cravers on.
In any case, they are definitely connected, judging by lore found in Endless Legend. Here's the text for Chapter 7 (titled "Less is More") of the Necrophages main quest:
"We are doomed. Doomed to be nothing more than unthinking killing machines. I have seen the evidence. The "Endless" made us to be killers, and they made us well. My hope that we might become something more than our nature lies in ruin; Ka-Riss's degeneration into savagery is complete. Nothing occupies his mind other than the next fight, the next feed. We are killers. And I? I have found peace with that. We are what we are. And we will survive.
The eggs that we will scatter to the darkest corners of this land will see to that. Before that though, our numbers must fall until only the strongest, the most ferocious, the most tenacious stalk our hives. Only then will we ensure that the gene-line is ready for the challenges that await on the other side of the long winter. Starvation, banishment, the sacrifice of the weak and feeble to feed the strong--the methods don't matter, only the outcome. "Cruel", the hind-legs might say, but cruel is still better than dead.
Before we slaughter though, we must build. A factory chamber that can replicate this Endless "Incubator", this strange machine that will keep our eggs out of time's grasp, must be constructed. As I listen now, the hive is preternaturally quiet. My broodlings know change is coming. Soon though, soon it will ring with a thousand sounds of industry. And after? After it will ring with the shrieks of the dying . . ."
Slight Correction: "Less is More" is one possible title for that quest, listed as alternate in the files. The primary title is "Unnatural Born Killers," which is even more fitting.
This is very interesting, thank you for bringing my attention to this!
I say the Concrete owned Auriga during the Dust Wars. The Husk of Knowledge had been about for quite some time at that point however, but there's evidence to suggest that Concrete Endless held the planet during the war, and therefore the Husk of Knowledge until it's destruction.
Let's not forget, either, that He Who Meddles tells us that the Necrophages were the first on Auriga. Feeds On Bones tells us also that Necrophages had lived for a long time in the "Dark Maze" until the Vaulters and their automated turrets began wiping them out.
The Necrophages are a very interesting race, and so I discussed some of the theories in this video as a tester to see if anyone would actually like to hear more :)
in my game the Cravers have to beg me for my mercy
I hope this game becomes a big franchise.
greenghost2008 sadly, not yet
:(
Still hoping for Endless Universe Rpg.
It’s growing slowly but it’s growing
@@holo7070 yes it is
Thanks Sseth Tzentacht
if you read the endless legend lore through the story line for a wonder victory, you come across another sentient leader. This guy is a craver. He follows the commands of the endless and leads the swarm to mechanization and eventually they lose all their free will and just become a killing mess. The old leader realizes how futile it is to resist the craving and figures out a way to survive the coming apocalypse when they consume the planet
You know in Endless Space 2 the Cravers get a Skin called Cravers Prime.
I do hope Amplitude creates a second Cravers Faction that simply...evolved from killer machines to more or less normal beings.
I mean they are some ingame pictures where Cravers and other Races live together without fighting all the time which means to me, that Cravers are absolutly capable to live without destroying planets.
The Necrophages infect and absorb.
The Cravers wipe out.
Isn't it possible that the Cravers were created as a weapon against the Necrophages, should they ever make it off of Auriga?
Coming to this video after having seen and played Endless Space 2 is very interesting: for one, comparing the art of ES1 to ES2 shows that the Cravers of the sequel are, at least on the non-ship scale, capable of industrialized production, only keeping the ramshackle, improvized look for their ships. They also are far less spindly and more muscular. Additionally, in the Artbook for ES2 we can see individual cravers here and there, seemingly coexisting peacefully or at least on an "enemy of my enemy" basis. My personal theory with the connection to the necrophages is that, assuming the concrete maintained control of Auriga and the Husk of Knowledge, the concrete were able to capture an unknown number of cravers and brought them to the Husk of Knowledge. Given that they were probably unable to fix their mechanical parts by themselves they slowly changed, adapting to Auriga and the nonexistent support of the virtual endless over time, till they bacame what we now know of as the Necrophages. It wouldn't surprise me that the Necros themselves don't know of this part of their history either, given that both they and the Cravers were rarely keen on preserving history.
Thank you for making this video !
I bought Dungeon of the Endless a while ago and out of curiosity i just got Endless Space, i really like them both even though i'm not very good at them.
The lore in this universe sounds very rich and interesting, and i'm definitely looking forward to learning more about it !
Keep up the great work !
Thank you very much mate! The comment is very much appreciated.
cool video. I recently got into the Endless Space PC games and I appreciate your content!
I fucking love this.
These are really interesting, in fact, it would've been great if they had put science files like this inside the game, where a person is detailing each race and what is known as yoi encounter them. Wouldn't that be cool? Great video!
I've read every single piece of lore Amplitude has published, but I'm still learning so much by watching your videos. Well done, sir, well done.
But a question: In the video, you consistently refer to the Cravers as the ancestors to the Necrophages. I'm curios to know why that is? After all, the line "We will look up to the stars... still hungry." seems like an obvious tie in to Endless Space, in addition to multiple ES races shown to be concurrent with the Cravers in ES lore. But you seem to know something that turns it the other way.
Looking forward to the vaulter video. After that, perhaps you could explore the Broken Lord's and the mysterious Keldron Bor.
I refer to them as the ancestors as, due to the timeline of the Endless series, Legend is only really slightly before ES. If the Cravers did come from Auriga, then they are already gone because the Dust Wars are long over. The creature Virus, and how it looks different from all the Cravers, also tells me that one came before the other, and in this case, it must be the Cravers. I hope this clears it up, or, I wonder, if I've misunderstood the question haha.
I am hopefully going to do ALL civilisations available, so the Broken Lords will be coming along soon, don't you fret. ;)
@@DeadSun But what if Necrpophages are a prototype for Cravers? The experimantal population for one, biological, stage of experimentation while the augmentation was done elsewere. Are you sure the labs were controlled by the Concrete during the entirety of the war?
@@AnMComm All of the lore always refers to Auriga as being Concrete and there's never anything that suggests that they ever lost control over it. It seems very clear that the Concrete controlled Auriga for the entire war and only left it when they were wiped out along with the Virtual or when they couldn't hold it anymore. But there's definitely no indication that the Virtual ever held Auriga, plus Auriga seems to have been made partly for the Dust Wars and when those were underway the Virtuals were already using the Cravers so they had clearly already built them. If there are any relation then it is more likely that it's a shared common ancestor that before the war the Virtuals also had access to.
Please keep this series running !
I have to say that the Cravers and their ships from ES1 look much cooler than those from ES2.
Damn the cravers are so much like the Orks from 40k, they are a bio-weapon made by an ancient civilization whos sole purpose is to only wage war, and when the masters are gone they are still there, though i do like how the cravers look like, they are kinda like cyborg-zerg
Also, i think the necrophage are a proto-craver race? Maybe before the endless took them or just a spliter group that lost their augmentations...maybe
These videos have been pretty awesome. I've arrived here from the official Endless Space facebook page, you've caught the attention of the community and the developers Mr. Dead Sun. And I feel I speak for almost everyone when I ask you; "Please, for the love of whatever deity you may or may not believe in, continue to make these videos."
KhornMarkOfSlaanesh I'm surprised UA-cam didn't inform me of this comment, and I apologise it's taken so long to reply! Contrary to what some may be wondering about now, I am actually continuing this series but I feel it would be better to wait for the release of Endless Legend and DotE as the next episode is on the Vaulters. But don't you worry, by mighty Cthulu, this series will continue!
Dead Sun
Not a problem, I know I'm not the only one that enjoyed these videos, I have no problem waiting for new ones. :)
damn only 600 subs wtf... keep up the good work though
for some reason these guys remind me of necrons from 40k
_The hunger the Cravers share with another species known as the Tyranids cannot be understated, however it is my biased opinion that the Tyranids have much more starvation issues then the Craven. Just my two cents~_
ハングリーGalacta true but the necrophages are MUCH MORE similar to the tyranids than the cravers
Tyranids scarier, since they are more adaptable, and have an incredibly strong psychic presence. There’s an interesting theory out there that the Tyranids are actually a bioweapon engineered by the Old Ones to neutralize the Warp... by killing and feeding off of any sentient life, thus starving Chaos... then perhaps starving themselves.
In that light, the endless and the old ones would be interesting if pitted against each other.
Theory Five: The necrophage upgraded themselves and became cravers (not the other way around). Which would mean Endless Legend is a prequel to Endless Space...?
Indeed, Endless Legend is a prequel to Endless Space, but Endless Legend takes place after the Dust Wars and we know the Cravers are created during the Dust Wars.
Thanks for watching by the way, and for commenting :)
Dead Sun Are we ever told what form the Cravers of the time of the endless took though? maybe the necropage is part of the experimental weapon which eventually became the Cravers, before they where bionically enhanced.
This is definitely a possibility. I personally believe that the Necrophages and Cravers share a common ancestor, but I haven't been able to figure out whether that common ancestor is in fact the Necrophages themselves or if they are from another planet entirely.
Dead Sun Nice video. I think the ancient bio lab on Auriga is the genetic birthplace of the Cravers. The Virtual Endless took an anonymous insectile race and modified them in two ways. First, they raised them to sentience by modifying them genetically. Second, they added creepy robot shit to make them neigh unstoppable. The Necrophages could be genetic cousins that were created along the way, or they could be the exact same species. I think the Necrophages ARE the Cravers (genetically) but the symbiotic robot shit makes the Cravers into a whole other level of savage. (You'd look, eat, think, and reproduce differently if you were half robot, too.) In other words, a Craver is to a Necrophage, what the Terminator is to a human. (I think this is what Nate Godfrey was getting at in his comment.)
Dead Sun Also, if Cravers and Necrophages are different species, it implies that either the Endless made a variety of skews (which seems illogical) or that the Craver species kept all its maladaptive (hyper-consuming) traits through many generations of natural selection. On a single world with limited food, I think selective pressures would either curb their hyper-craving or extinct them altogether.
I`ve read the necrophage on the endless wiki they were created by the endless why it doesn`t say
Is it just me or does the Hive Leader disappered with ES2? The Amplitude ES2 Wiki says thatt eh Queens are the "most importend individual inside the Craver Society the Bishops are making the Decisions. The Queen can merely agree or disagree.
So the backstory of this universe is Total Annihilation?
The endless bombing the planet could be auriga as we see in the intro it said auriga is dying it could be in endless space time auriga is a tundra and dead and the endless evolved the necrophages to weapons turning them to the cravers
I agree with BoydofZinJ. This comment is way past the alpha stage of Endless Legend fyi. I believe the Virtuals found the Necrophages and morphed them with machinery to become the Cravers. If you look at the art for the Cravers, you can see that their bodies have been completely fused with robotics, i mean, they don't even have a real head anymore. and when the Cravers reproduce, wouldn't they fuse their offspring with their technology, not downgrade them? The Necrophages definitely look like a primitive version of the Cravers, with mandibles, wings and multiple appendages.
Dude, these are fucking awesome. May I ask where you're getting all of these screens? How are you putting these together? Also, your accent is fucking awesome.
Meant to post under DevildogFF. I see you on the forums. Keep this up!
I'm getting the majority of them from artwork designed by Amplitude. The rest are in game screenshots. And, wow, I've never been told my accent is awesome before haha! I've been told posh but that's very different.
Off-topic: They are very similar to the Phantom Aliens of the Final Fantasy movie (2001)
so how do the Cravers get those metals augments if all they can do is consume?
They also "consume" tech in a way, by scrapping and retro-engineering. They kill you, eat you and take your things to build their own.
@@Biouke So, Cravers are born, and then somewhere along the way are outfitted with advanced cybernetics and a gun, by a Craver organization that does this full-time, right? It seems like in order for them to leave their home planet, they had to do a lot more than feast. I haven't heard anything about the non-military Cravers but they must exist. One could say that they're a legitimate space-faring species, and not just some rabid race of mad dogs that only know hunger.
@@WeedSmoker69 It's like any eusocial insect species, they have a caste of workers. Cravers are definitively intelligent, they just live to spread and consume and all their society is built around doing it efficiently. Think cyborg wasps.
@@Biouke I see. I haven't heard of the workers. I want to see their factories
Cravers = space locust. No need to overthink it.