That is one of the best vlogs I have ever seen not blowing smoke up your skirt Trev just hit the nail on the head. I’m in my early 60’s so gone r the days I would chase young skirt I’m looking at 40 plus prefer the mature lady as they say in Thailand as I can’t be arsed with the drama u get with young girls & don’t want to come across as a “dirty old man” lol. So many great & valid points in this vlog the newbies should watch this time & time again would save a lot of heartache & more importantly money 👍👍👍
Don't kid yourself, Thai men are like 'rabbits' --there's places set up everywhere for a bit of 'fun'. Ever heard of 'Mia Noi' ? That is common here to have a 'second wife' --the wife often knows and accepts this also! Farangs treat Thai women differently, its doesn't work! The Thai guys know how to keep control!
I was with my lovely wife for 16 years until her untimely passing, I can honestly say that there was nothing bad about her. She gave me the best years of my life. She will always be missed and loved.
Trev, great video as always! I'm actually really surprised that you didn't touch upon one MASSIVE aspect at all when it comes to relationships with Thai women (from a Westerner's perspective) and that is her relationship with her parents. Oversimplified speaking, Thai people, like many Asian cultures, have a "bottom-up" ("Children do everything to make the parents happy") approach contrary to our westerner "top-down" ("Parents do everything to make their children happy") one - this is particularly apparent to me to all the naturalized Thai people with Chinese heritage. It's partly the reason why many farm girls become working girls to begin with (because they can send money home to supply their parents, grand-parents - if they have children already, they're almost always with them, being raised and supported by their working girl mom). So depending on your own relationship with your parents this can be a bit of a "culture shock", because in western cultures parent-child-relations tend to "detach" themselves way more than Thai people do -> don't be surprised if the Thai girl says you're not the most important person in her life or the person she loves the most (something that is very common in the west to say, right? partner being the most important person and such? for some that's important to hear) - cause that would be her parents. Even more so, don't be surprised if she does whatever her parents or grand-parents tell her to do, even tho she's well in her 20/30s or even older. It's quite the thing to behold sometimes and something to keep an eye out :) ... Also, ALWAYS get on good terms with her siblings as well, especially her older brothers/sisters, since they often become somewhat of "replacement parents" for them - hence, similar mindsets may apply. Another aspect that you didn't touch upon was the working conditions for (most) Thai people, particularly for the "professional" ones. Thailand is famous for some of the WORST work-life balance in the world, with Bangkok listed as one of the unhappiest places when it comes to working conditions (land of smiles, eh? -> the Thaiger did a report on that a couple weeks ago, if anyone is interested). My girl works in Bangkok Hospital as a medical professional and for them it's completely normal to have 14-18h+ shifts - no overhour compensation of course. Many of the smartest and brightest have had enough and want a way out, they don't see a good future for Thailand right now (for many reasons...) and dating a foreigner is what keeps them hopeful, because they've heard (and sometimes seen) how life can be outside of this meatgrinder. I know, most people watching you are probably "entertainment tourists", but for those who want to pull back the veil a bit and have more of a deep dive into Thai society, all these aspects might be of importance :) Wish you a great day and keep up the great work! :D
All good points. I lived with my girlfriend for two years before asking her to marry me. We worked out the cultural and family issues. If you are going to live in Thailand you will have reconsider some of your values and make some compromises. Different is not necessarily worse.
A former girlfriend worked a crazy number of hours as a physician at a small rural hospital. Busy emergency department and also covered a small number of inpatient beds. Was normally a multiple doctor facility but other doc's quit because of crazy schedule. But she did indeed receive overtime pay, a staggering 40 baht per hour. Total monthly income 45-50K baht. Approx half of what our residents in training salary was 30 years ago in US.
Hi... I was one of those who would go wild with different girls for the first week or two but then settle with a steady girl. I knew all the tricks until I met my future wife. We just got on together. 20 years married, she's not materialistic and I'm 12 years older than her. The best part has been all the fun we had and how she takes care of me. The worst part is not any fault of our own, but she suddenly went deaf within a month and we lost a lot of communication about 3 years ago. We are still going strong though.
I addition to a 10-20 year age gap I would add that her age should be over 30. A key decision point for me was to learn that she wasn’t a party animal. She is happy to just chill most of the time. My Thai wife was 35 when I met her and we have a 26 year age gap. We’ve been together 5 years and married for 3 years.
Miss one of the very big issues with marrying a Thai girl. If she is a traditional Thai woman you are marrying a Thai family. My wife made it very clear to me in the very beginning that she needed to help support her mother and father I also got a eight-year-old boy with her. We have been together for almost 20 years. We live in the United States and I can honestly say that my wife is now my cash cow. She bought a Thai Restaurant and it has been very good to us.
Hey Trev, I'm just over 60, divorced, no kids...been to Thailand 10 times and tend to hang out with 25-35 year old girls...it's just really fun for me...I'm very clear about not wanting anything serious right from the get go...we learn things from each other...music, culture, dreams...the biggest piece of advice I can offer is: When a girl wants you to meet her family, just be careful...THAT is an indication that she is getting serious and will up the expectations of the relationship... I learned that lesson the hard way and the fun ended the very next day...it was an ambush !! But now I just keep things light and breezy...when they get too clingy...I kiss em goodbye...
@@Buzzinpattaya Hey Trev, didn't you say that you live out in a farm area or a small village? I have read about snakes (which freak me out more than just about any other animal). Have you seen any in your area? None of the UA-cam channels about Thailand mention dangerous animals... If a girl asked me to go out to the village, I'd plead fear of snakes
Interesting topic because in my experience they all prefer Thai guys, the only exceptions sometimes are foreign guys who can speak Thai. The truth is most Thai guys don't actually want those girls so the girls become defensive and claim to prefer foreigners.
Most Thai BGs can only find Thai men that are, like the girls, the Thai lower class. They don't have much money so the girls go for Mr. Farang, who is assumed to be richer than his Thai counterparts.
Bingo....95% of the ladies I've had talked to had a Thai boyfriend or two before they broke up and she went looking or 'preferring' farang boyfriend for language exchange, etc. Do you think it's always a Thai guy who is at fault for the breakup before the girl started working in the bars?
Great video and very true. Personally it took me 15 years of visiting Thailand often twice a year ( without doubt the best 15 years of my life and i will take some unbelievable memories to my grave.😂) before I found one that I could genuinely trust and love. We've been married for 12 years now and she's still amazing. Except for the silent treatment, sulking moods that she goes into sometimes if we ever have a disagreement. I think you mentioned it before. It really used to do my nut in. But now I take advantage of the silence and read a book until she comes around again.
My most enjoyable experience was meeting a rich Thai lady who invited me back to her mansion. She was a business lady who owned her own furniture company in Bangkok and Singapore.
I don’t care what other people think, if I come to Pattaya, I’m going to hit on every woman I think is beautiful! Not saying I’ll be successful 100% of the time but I’m damn sure gonna try!
Guys this is the best device anyone can give you nobody can explain it better. I meet beautiful bar girl she tried to explain this to me but I thought I knew everything, I met a beautiful lady on internet 6 years ago (not working girl), spent lots of time in Thailand and in Australia , just over 2 years made the decision to get a Visa for her .Thai ladies are beautiful very smart and the know what they want and will not stop till they get it even if they have to wait a while, they are better than us in social media and they love to help and teaching each other .She is 40 years younger than me I am74 ,she now has better life and when she is older will not need much . (Don’t get me wrong I still think the world of her and I’m sure she does too, for now she has made my life better I just hope she stays around in till I go to sleep .
Dated a girl when I lived in Chiang Mai. The best part was that she was very caring, and really tried hard to take good care of me. The worst part was some cultural disconnect. Sometimes our thinking just went past each other and didn't connect.
Mate you keep coming up with good advice. Watching and loving the direct approach. No bullshit. I've been 5 times in 4 years and will and are coming again to make a long-term plan. Keep up the good work Knackers.
it is very harsh but it IS all very very true!! Nail head... meet Hammer... as always Trevor! it is exactly how it is out there.. and not just in Thailand... we are and were all green at some point... nothing to be ashamed of.. its all life experience.. just about how fast we learn the lessons!! and thank god for videos like this to hopefully save someone the financial and emotional 'grief' of going through it first hand!! Nice one Trevor!
My first trip to Pattaya 8 years ago. I had walked into the "Big C" mall. This girl basically shouted "I Ve been waiting for you all my life". Me thinking "likely story" and continued on with my day out. If she had been, then I also thought "sorry to be a disappointment" after all that time.😂
without even watching this video the answer is money money money. The fact that a foreigner can fly to Thailand means to a Thai lady he is rich and a Thai lady knows how to extract your money and if you think any different your a dreamer. Out of " losing face " most foreigners will deny this and yes its rare but there are exemptions to the rule...
I love your videos, and this one really applies. Got a lady who found me online, think somebody here in the Thai community gave her my facebok. Anyway, I know what you mean about being careful, so I been taking time with it. She is from up in the country, not in the bar life, and my age, which is why I even considered giving this lady my time. I think much of what was in your video rings true, as I have had the chance to observe many such relationships. The ones that seem to work best are, yes, when the man and woman are close in age. I think generational differences are as important as cultural. I hate to say this though, you can always take the lady out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the lady, if she had been in that life longer than a few months. Saw a lot of that with the Chinese girls who came to Saipan. I will say that I do notice huge differences between Thai, Chinese and Filipina ladies. We have lots of Chinese and Filipinas here, and a small Thai community, and what I notice is the Guys who are with Thai ladies here seem a lot happier than those who married Chinese or Filipina...just the attitude and priories are different. Things I notice with the Thai vs Chinese....Chinese are far more money oriented and dare I say "Cold hearted" when it comes to relationships. You will never be her #1 priority. And I know maybe one out of 10 guys I know who married Chines who are still with her...(Including me). Whereas I know guys who married Thai ladies and have been with them for decades. Jealousy is an issue though. I see even my own girl will always text me asking if I am at a bar which got tedius after 6 months till I put my foot down and basically got to an understanding. That type of jealousy did ruin a friend of mine's relationship. Weird...seems in the last 3 years everyone I know who dated Chinese or married are now hooking up with Thai ladies (including me). I did explain abou the jealousy thing to my lady and it seemed to help. But I understand. Her husband 14 -15 years ago was a thai guy with a girl on the side, so... Now one other thing that actually worries me is how some of us guys need solitude and quiet. But my girl always wants to chat...Hard for me to explain to her how important "Me time" is. A firend of mine had the same problem but seems to have resolved it with his lady...I figure communication is key. Anyway, since Covid is ending and I can finally travel, I will hopefully be there in August. Her sister is in Pattaya, so we may take a couple days, down there so if so, Will hit up your Buzz In bar and maybe say hello. Smashing interview with Billy Makin by the way. Really enjoyed.
I was married for 15 years to a Thai woman that I met when I was in Thailand. The attraction for me of course was her beauty. She was from my viewpoint very nice looking. Not drop dead, but still pretty from my viewpoint. The hardest part was communication. We see the world in different ways. She felt I should support her family even though we were 10,000 miles from them (we lived in America and they were in Surin) I didn't feel it was my responsibility to support her family who lived on the other side of the world. Yes, there were times I sent them money. But I never sent them money on any kind of regular basis.
Thank you for sharing your experience, and yeah I have to say I agree on how you feel. I am so so lucky, my wife never asks me to support any of her family although I do my bit when the mood takes me.....
Great video once again, love catching up on your old ones. Man there are some haters in this comments, a bunch of suckers most likely. Also maybe at first can be a money fling for them, but as long as you are a decent human being and treat them right, it can be more than that since no girl want to work till retirement as a bar girl. So be smart, be good and things might turn out good for you.
Nice channel! Thailand is not on my bucket list, but your insights into male-female dynamics are quite relevant for us gents living in Asia, even here in Japan. Cheers!
I have been married to a Thai woman for 8 years. We meet in San Diego. She said she wanted an American because all Thai men cheat. Her parents are well to do, her father owns his own company. The best thing is it's a very traditional marriage, she cooks for me, very respectful, etc. She works pays for own bills car, clothes etc. The hard thing is the cultural differences and language barrier. So far though it's all been great.
I'm also engaged with a thai woman here in Finland. The only bad thing is her jealousy. She suspects me all the time even though I give no reason to do so. And the language is a bit of a problem sometimes with us also. In every other sense she's absolutely wonderful.
Great video, love the point about age. The reality is as we get older , we often want different things. Compatibility at this point is worth more than a "crazy out of control" love💕
I have no interest going to Pattaya and no interest in girls in general, married already. However I find your channel really interesting as I’m learning about things I had no idea about. Fascinating to listen to your views
Hello bud, this is one of the best and most interesting videos iv seen, I'm coming to Thailand in Sept for 3 weeks, met a lady on a thai dating site, seen each other on camera so I know she is real, the videos you do are very informative keep up the great work mate
They prefer Thai men, but they know foreign men have money. This is not the case 100% of the time, but this is the prevailing reason. Do a simple observation and look at the number of girls with full Thai children before they date a foreigner.
I'm married to a Thai lady. Best part is she's very caring and genuine. Worst part... Still waiting to figure that out. 4 years married and we're in California. And I met her first on Thai Friendly 🤟. And my wife is 22 years younger. I find that a majority of the ladies are looking for a stable relationship like you said. My wife works at a Thai restaurant and make great money. She saves most of it and loves to spend it too. She's very generous and loves nice things: Gucci, Louie etc. But she buys them. I make enough to support her and her daughter, who moved here a year ago, so she saves and spends and lives a easy fun life. I'd like to say I got lucky but I know there are many Thai ladies like her. Use your gut instinct.
@@Buzzinpattaya it's a great feeling. Yeah it's fun to look and flirt, we're guys, but I'd never go beyond that. There's always going to be younger, better looking ladies tempting you but they could never match my connection I have with my wife. Makes it easy. 👍. Keep the love flowing, great topic.
The best overview of Thai girls and farang interaction I've heard to date 👍 I'm in my 60's so too long in the tooth to believe a 20 something would have any interest in me other than financial, its still flattering. We've all heard 'Thai man no good' reply, which is just to boost your ego. I'm friends with a few Thai ladies who are in their mid 40's. known them for several years, and I've asked them the same question, why farang, and the best answer I've had was 'farang men don't judge' I took this to mean that a thai woman who has 2 kids and hubby has buggerd off, leaves her pretty much invisible to a thai man as they all want young women with no kids, yet a farang is more likely to take her and her kids
It's interesting reading some of the comments. My feelings are people are people, no matter what country they are from. I have seen just as many men loss everything to western women who they believed would be with them till death do us part. And I was one of these!!! I believe it comes down to communication and understanding the needs of both parties. Will there be horror stories, of course!! But that can happen no matter where you live, and who you live with.
Good point, no matter how money hungry a thai/foreign woman is, a woman from your own country can clean you out even worse with our crooked legal systems.
Thankyou very much mate, I showed this to a friend of mine and he was thrilled with how spot on you are and says he cant wait to visit buzzin bar. Its been three years so everyones a bit on edge!
I've been with my Thai woman for 18 years. We started a Thai massage where we both work. So we are doing fine. And it's a small town in Sweden so no extra massage. So the good Thai women are out there.
To answer your two questions. 1. I've been in a relationship with my Thai girlfriend for almost six years and the best part is The Thai culture. Even though she was once married to an American and lived in the USA for a short time, she is not what I call Westernized. She is still 100% Thai and her number one priority is making me happy. 2. The toughest I'd have to say is actually two things first the language barrier. Even though she speaks English quite well I still speak very little Thai, and occasionally we have a subject she simply can't explain in English and with my limited Thai I likewise can't understand. Which leads me to part two and that is when a Thai woman gets frustrated or mad she shuts down. She simply refuses to talk about what ever it is anymore. Believe me we've had a number of arguments about this. But its a Thai thing so get used to it. OK now to somewhat qualify my answers. While you've undoubtedly heard plenty of horror stories you should know that occasionally things can work out. I've been with my Thai girlfriend for almost six years now and while its not been all sugar spice we do enjoy a very good relationship. You should also know that I spent a lot of time in Thailand learning the INS and outs. I enjoy many a soapy massage and overnight bar fine before meeting my girlfriend and entering into a relationship. I learned her entire past. And after she quit working we now live in a house she owns. We discussed marriage in the past and she understands and accepts my reasons for remaining single, at least for now. So while our relationship is not perfect it is far better than any I've had with Western women. To those of you in a relationship with a Thai woman I wish you continued success and happiness. To those of you that might be considering a relationship I say proceed with caution. Keep your guard up and your wallet closed. Know what you're getting into. But for all the horror stories remember that occasionally things can and do work out.
I was married to a Thai girl for 10 years, absolutely the best girl I have ever been with, and we are still friends. I messed up, not her. I now have a Thai girlfriend, been with her for 4 years now, again, absolutely brilliant.
I met a beautiful Thai woman about a year ago. She's one of the nicest people I've ever met!! I've visited her twice & am going back in November for a month. She owns an apartment building & doesn't ask me for money. I'm 70 & she's 50. Her 2 grandkids are sooooocute!! I'm thinking about starting to spend the winters there with her.
I met a lady from isaan work in the bar 49 days she tell me.... speak little english and don't like the bar.... I take care her 28 days and she really took care me everything... i was sick everything... she was looking for marriage and want a small house and be happy in the village..... She have to many secrets..... I don't what to believe anymore
Love your blog! Spent 2weeks with a lower class,working girl. The best part is she never said no. The worst part was she was constantly on her cell phone
While some have remarked Pattaya girls lack education I discovered they are actually among the most highly educated in all of Thailand. The dating site thai friendly Pattaya girls section shows they have a high % of PhD and/or Doctorate degrees. Faith has been restored and I hope to meet my dream gal pediatrician on Soi 6.
@@user-xq6xs7vb9z My comment about Pattaya % PhD's is tongue in cheek (no pun intended) On the thai friendly dating site the gals typically either choose PhD since it is the highest or they don't know what it means. That is why a search by education is futile on that website LOL.. Yes at the international student PhD level it is a different species than what the average foreigner meets. I dated a couple of lady physicians and they as you say were (to the best of my knowledge) NOT gold diggers. One drove 1.5 hours to visit me and on the first date absolutely would not let me pay for dinner or even share. The other one with similar attributes and if I cooked a meal she'd always bring wine. Also if I may add, they were very leery about male gold diggers targeting them.
Solid Video Trevor. Totally accurate information directly to the point.A little some thing for the new people and a little something for the veteran Pattaya/ Thai Traveler.
I am Australian 68 and been with my Thai lady 50 for 6 years. The good is her caring ways, good cook, wanting to please me in every way. The bad, sometimes treating me like or wanting to do everything as if I am not capable, but that is her way and probably all Thai ladies. Also taking so many selfies, every day 40 or 50 selfies and not one photo of me.
I completely agree with the age. I'm 44 and trying to date Filipina girls here in Saudi Arabia. I generally stay in the 32-38 age range. More towards the older end. I find it very difficult to have any type of conversation with the younger girls. Just getting pay and play is one thing, but as far as having an actual relationship were we are both happy you have to go with a girl a little more mature.
It's not that Thai women prefer Foreigners, it's just that in 90% of T/F relationships the Thai man doesn't want anything to do with that woman. Damaged goods etc etc. Most foreigners end up with what Thai men perceive to be bottom of the barrel. Not in all cases but a very high proportion. Oh yeah, and the MONEY!!!!
I've been with a beautiful Thai lady for about a year and a half now. I'm 66 and she's 41 and I would say that she has more trouble keeping up with me than me with her! LOL I met her on Tinder when I first came to Hua Hin. She was working for a small business that sold clothing online but they went out of business a few months after we met which was OK with me because I wanted to travel around Thailand with her and didn't really want her working full time. She is very frugal. I give her a small allowance for shopping and everyday necessities which she uses to buy groceries for us and to pay for incidentals. She had girlfriends who told her to ask me to buy her a "Louis Vitton' purse which we joke about. Very happy together, she cooks me wonderful Thai meals all the time and we have a lot of fun traveling around. I would't date a 20 something Thai lady but I would ammend your age restriction a bit based on if the lady is older than 40 and I would also say that using social media to find a Thai lady can work well also. Certainly a better bet than meeting at a bar I think!
You did well, mate. That’s a nice age difference. She’s not too young. These old guys with young girls are deluded as. It’s rather embarrassing all round …
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A good honest great video Trev. Bar girls are money-focused but ignorant comments saying all Thai girls just want money is a really a stupid thing that some fools say. I have met many girls that work at a mall or restaurant that have taken me out and bought me drinks and meals. - and we remain Just friends,
Know a western guy that speaks Thai and used to lecture at Bangkok universities. He got invited out by women sometimes platonic sometimes not. Also had a gogo dancer fwb as she had multiple sponsors so able to choose her company in spare time. IMO there is lots of golddigging especially on the thai friendly dating site as well as fee for service LOL. Even in mainstream society there are a % of golddiggers also.
I agree that one shouldn't generalize and that there are a lot of good hearted generous Thai girls. I've certainly met a few. However, a Farang is much more likely to encounter the gold-digging type in Pattaya, Ao Patong on Phuket and in the bars of Patpong, Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy in BKK. Are you ever!
I enjoyed the mixed life of living in the uk and travelling alot to Thailand... and she enjoyed to travel to the UK oftenly also... was good while it lasted... life goes on tho.... gave up on western women many many moons ago...
Hello Trevor, how are you, sir ? I can relate to this topic. I've first met my wife in 2016 on Facebook. At first she didn't want anything to do with me. But i didn't give up and after a year of chatting i travelled to Pattaya for the first where she worked as a saleslady at Central Festival. We were able to spend time together outside her working schedule. After returning home we kept talking daily. Another year later i returned to Thailand. After that she came to see me in the Netherlands. And the rest is history. We're still together and i must say that it's great. Sure, i've experienced the silent treatment and the "it's up to you" remarks. Anyone who is or has been involved with thai women should know where i'm talking about. But nobody is perfect, right ? She is living here with me and she's is well integrated in my country. She is clean, hardworking...making her own money. Offcourse i've received comments like: "has the buffalo been sick allready?" But that is not the case. It's like you've commented before, Trevor: Men are jealous and women are looking down on you !
Not all the Isaan girls, the ones you call "farm girls" live on farms. My wife was a teacher at Khon Kaen Technical College with a Bachelor's Degree in Civil Engineering.
l know im 6 months late and to be truthful this video slipped through with out me seeing it until now,I have watched many videos of vloggers and have been travelling to Thailand and Philippines for years and you are absolutely spot on with all you say and this is the best video l have seen on this subject. l have my own Filipina l have been with for 12 years and l bring her to Jomtien often, covid hopefully going so lets go.keep the great work up Trev.
Thai women want emotional and financial security. Nothing wrong with that. It is the same with western women. I want companionship in my retired years. Seems like a good deal to me. Age gaps are not so important. If people can’t understand that then they have never been here. One thing I hear over and over is Thai women fed up with Thai guys.
@@Buzzinpattaya Foreignors go to Pattaya to meet Village Girls? LOL Fact is Mongers are undesirable in their own country and cant attract women of intelligence or wealth, so they find women of less intelligence and wealth. Mongers seem more powerful and witty to the uneducated, poor girls.
A 25 year old Thai lady "prefers" 40, 50, 60 year old farangs as long as they act as walking ATMs - that's the only secret, why Thai women "enjoy the company of foreign men". Sure, you can have fun with gold diggers as long as you are aware, they are not in romantic love with you and will never be. But they pretend very very well - it is part of the role model. So many dramas happen, because too many guys are foolish enough to believe sweet words like "love", "sexy man" mean anything real ...
I told my Thai farm girl that I am not rich. She’s still texting me every day and video chatting. Going there to travel with her to the islands where she says she’s never been. Why wouldn’t a man want to help support his woman?
Very nice, entertaining and thoughtful chat. Thank you very much. You are a great host! Glad that your channel exists, adding value to other people. My weak spot are latinas. (south american ones). Also loving, caring and soooo fun to have around. Great sense of humor. You can get into contact with a latina independent of the age, but as you point out in the video - it is usually smarter if you gravitate towards someone with a life experience and values not that different from your own. Besides the physical stuff, you'll have much more in common which help bonding. Peace!
Well ive done a few of the things you warn against Iam 68 & wife is 41 now been married 11 years & we have 2 kids this was a big mistake for me they are 6 & 10 . She comes from Buriram & worked for the Government i checked her out when i first went there see where she worked to make sure she wasnt lying . We met on Thai love links i used to call her & talk to her for 20 mins everyday but it was hard work as English wasnt good she was nice to be with when i visited there although not much to do around there at that time . As i speak now it was a mistake to get married & bring her here her English has got worse & she mostly sits around watching Thai tv programmes on her phone . She has wanted to go back to Thailand to live at least 3 or 4 times a year i feel sorry for her but i couldnt let me kids go to live there .
Trev you are correct in what you are saying,I melt a farm girl in a bar,we had good times together, and she knew I always look after her when I come over I was fine that she still work in the bar,I didn't have to send her money, but her working friends kept telling her what they was getting and she started be greedy,at this moment not friends anymore,how about telling us how to find the girls who have good jobs and don't work in the bars, thanks
Avoid the bar girls and possibly pattaya all together … check out their social media. The first clue on instagram is the icons below her profile description. It’s very common these bar girls will have 1 per country. I have this one girl that’s got one for like 20 countries, so you can assume she’s had at least 20 guys fly her out and turn her out. Look at her lifestyle… always in bars ? Avoid! How does she dress? Fake tits ? Drives a new car but doesn’t seem to have a job ? … on the other hand I’ve got one I’m chatting with that seems to do a little of both, I can see her kindergartens children she teaches and wears her little Girl Scout uniform to work, and I see the occasional party pics also, which is fine a working girl needs to unwind… if got another she works for Sony in the Amata city and I can see her in her uniform everyday and we’ve talked finances, usual 15000 tbh per month … some are keepers some belong to the streets 😂 then again I’m sure there must be a few diamonds in the rough but it might cost a few thousand pounds to find them
I remember an incident when I was visiting Bangkok for business on a monthly basis for about 4 years, back in the 2004-2008 timeframe. I was staying in a nicer hotel downtown, sitting in the lobby waiting for the factory owner to pick me up for dinner and I see this older guy come in with a young Thai girl in her early 20s on his arm. He was using a walker to get along, and had an oxygen bottle hooked to the walker and a tube going to his nose. As they slowly made their way across the lobby and to the elevator I could not help but think to myself that this was going to be his last night on this earth, but at least he would die with a smile on his face.
My dad took me to Thailand when I was 19 years old. I met this beautiful Thai girl who was 2 years older than me. I told her that I had no money but she still kept in contact.
A typical Thai woman does not want to spend her life with a foreign man. Single mothers with kids are the ones who choose relationships with foreign men and they do it for money first and foremost. In Thai society single mothers and bar girls are unwanted by most Thai men. To a Thai woman the appeal of a foreign man is that he has access to more money, is taught to put the woman’s feelings first, is willing to raise another man’s children as his own, and has fewer rights against being scammed and left destitute under Thai law.
@@FIRSTLAST-mk9dg yes agreed. I’m going to try and be calm , look out for any warning signs. She works , no kids , not asked for money help. Yet 🥺😬.. maybe when I’m back home it’ll begin. We have already had a money discussion. Haha 😂
Great vlog and some really good points. Just my tuppence on the sites though, TF etc, last time out I found it an almost perfect resource. If you can identify the matches who are obviously seeking what your looking for then it's just ideal. No BF's and everything sorted ahead of liaison, maybe I was just lucky but never had a bad experience. Might be a bit tricky to detail what those 'obvious' signals are though on this channel.
I do agree with all your points and agree far as age gap goes because I started with a younger lady and it didn't work out because she wasn't honest and very demanding so it didn't work out meet a beautiful lady just four years younger than me and no I'm more happy than I ever thought I would be so if you want a long relationship try to find a good lady close to your age and I'm sure you will be happy 👍😊
Why would a Thai woman choose to have a relationship with a farang who doesn't speak Thai, has no family here, and is often older than her? Let me guess... Pure love...
Good topic Trevor.... I will be completely open by admitting that I have had a bad experience with a young lady who I thought was right for me but the problem was the age gap of 33 years... forever love does not exist as nothing can be guaranteed in terms of sustainable companionship etc... this particular girl expected me to bar fine her for the entire time that I was on holiday and it wasn’t long before I found myself in a very difficult situation that even the local authorities refused to give assistance when I tried to end the relationship. I must apologise for the disruption that took place in your bar but it was a miracle I escaped with my skin.....I now have a beautiful girlfriend who works in a bar and does not go out with customers for the sake of our relationship even though I can at best visit Pattaya 2-3 times a year. With no bar fines and payment for services, our relationship seems to be working so for all the guys looking for a companion there are options available. My lady understands that I come to Pattaya for a holiday and accepts the fact that I visit many bars (including yours) for the purpose of playing pool and fooling around with the bar girls.... Remember one thing guys......It’s ok to get your appetite when away from your girlfriend but please remember that dinner is always available at home.....cheers.
This is a good subject. I think the first thing we need to really understand in that everyone wants security for their life. Most foreigners from a first world country traveling have good jobs that give us money. Many of these ladies we meet are poor with limited options. Like it or not, money is the name of the game, you are the job. That said, I have been luck with most of the girls in have met. I have had relationships with "working girls" and a few professional working women, one a teacher and one an accountant. Most but not all of the young bar girls really just want money to support their families and their life. That is just the truth you will have to deal with. I have meet a few bar girls that were really great ladies and they where up front with the fact that they just wanted someone to support them, no games. But the one thing that they all wanted was someone to treat them right. Men who will make them feel safe and treat them well. Another thing I that each girl has treated me like a king. They have set the bar high for the women here at home. I say, try to pay attention to the Thai woman you get involved with. There are many disaster stories out there. Friends that I have told about the party that a vacation in Thailand can be, I warn them to just be nice, be firm (when it comes to money spent) and to not fall in love, quickly. The girl I am currently involved with I have known for more than 10 years. She is a bit younger and was a bar girl years ago. Today she working at a more regular job and still trying to make money to have a good life. She want to build her own home so she can be independent. She tells me she does not want to depend on a man to secure her future. She has only been a friend before but now we are together and far out of the bar scene. It is the best time I have ever had in Thailand with her.
In general Thai women do not prefer foreign man...their man attraction is Thai man....when she says she doesn't like Thai man what she means is she doesn't like a poor man. Thai woman heirarchy of love is parents, kids, siblings, family, friends, dogs, farang....$$$$$$$ most of all
Great info Trevor had a few long term thai ladys relationships with bar girls who go back home to the village after we meet always starts off great but over time unless you take them to your home country or go live in toyland it will not last not so much the age gap it's the culture difference better off just have a good time while your there always be another waiting round the corner it's all about the money 100%
That is one of the best vlogs I have ever seen not blowing smoke up your skirt Trev just hit the nail on the head. I’m in my early 60’s so gone r the days I would chase young skirt I’m looking at 40 plus prefer the mature lady as they say in Thailand as I can’t be arsed with the drama u get with young girls & don’t want to come across as a “dirty old man” lol. So many great & valid points in this vlog the newbies should watch this time & time again would save a lot of heartache & more importantly money 👍👍👍
Thanks mate much appreciated and yeah age is a massive factor, my misses is 41, love her to bits, as you say no dramas!
@Dim Sum Lee I did say 40 plus you clearly didn’t read it properly I was referring to an age group not a particular age hope that’s helps
Don't kid yourself, Thai men are like 'rabbits' --there's places set up everywhere for a bit of 'fun'. Ever heard of 'Mia Noi' ? That is common here to have a 'second wife' --the wife often knows and accepts this also! Farangs treat Thai women differently, its doesn't work! The Thai guys know how to keep control!
@@senianns9522 I have no idea how this relates to my comment all the best anyway
@@damienohagan8550 All part of the 'rich tapestry ' of Thai life! ---Stay well!
I was with my lovely wife for 16 years until her untimely passing, I can honestly say that there was nothing bad about her. She gave me the best years of my life. She will always be missed and loved.
Am sorry for your loss
I’m very sorry for your loss. That must be hard.
Sorry for your loss
Trev, great video as always!
I'm actually really surprised that you didn't touch upon one MASSIVE aspect at all when it comes to relationships with Thai women (from a Westerner's perspective) and that is her relationship with her parents. Oversimplified speaking, Thai people, like many Asian cultures, have a "bottom-up" ("Children do everything to make the parents happy") approach contrary to our westerner "top-down" ("Parents do everything to make their children happy") one - this is particularly apparent to me to all the naturalized Thai people with Chinese heritage. It's partly the reason why many farm girls become working girls to begin with (because they can send money home to supply their parents, grand-parents - if they have children already, they're almost always with them, being raised and supported by their working girl mom). So depending on your own relationship with your parents this can be a bit of a "culture shock", because in western cultures parent-child-relations tend to "detach" themselves way more than Thai people do -> don't be surprised if the Thai girl says you're not the most important person in her life or the person she loves the most (something that is very common in the west to say, right? partner being the most important person and such? for some that's important to hear) - cause that would be her parents. Even more so, don't be surprised if she does whatever her parents or grand-parents tell her to do, even tho she's well in her 20/30s or even older. It's quite the thing to behold sometimes and something to keep an eye out :) ... Also, ALWAYS get on good terms with her siblings as well, especially her older brothers/sisters, since they often become somewhat of "replacement parents" for them - hence, similar mindsets may apply.
Another aspect that you didn't touch upon was the working conditions for (most) Thai people, particularly for the "professional" ones. Thailand is famous for some of the WORST work-life balance in the world, with Bangkok listed as one of the unhappiest places when it comes to working conditions (land of smiles, eh? -> the Thaiger did a report on that a couple weeks ago, if anyone is interested). My girl works in Bangkok Hospital as a medical professional and for them it's completely normal to have 14-18h+ shifts - no overhour compensation of course. Many of the smartest and brightest have had enough and want a way out, they don't see a good future for Thailand right now (for many reasons...) and dating a foreigner is what keeps them hopeful, because they've heard (and sometimes seen) how life can be outside of this meatgrinder.
I know, most people watching you are probably "entertainment tourists", but for those who want to pull back the veil a bit and have more of a deep dive into Thai society, all these aspects might be of importance :) Wish you a great day and keep up the great work! :D
All good points. I lived with my girlfriend for two years before asking her to marry me. We worked out the cultural and family issues. If you are going to live in Thailand you will have reconsider some of your values and make some compromises. Different is not necessarily worse.
A former girlfriend worked a crazy number of hours as a physician at a small rural hospital. Busy emergency department and also covered a small number of inpatient beds. Was normally a multiple doctor facility but other doc's quit because of crazy schedule. But she did indeed receive overtime pay, a staggering 40 baht per hour. Total monthly income 45-50K baht. Approx half of what our residents in training salary was 30 years ago in US.
Brilliant comment my friend thank you very much for sharing
Hi... I was one of those who would go wild with different girls for the first week or two but then settle with a steady girl. I knew all the tricks until I met my future wife. We just got on together. 20 years married, she's not materialistic and I'm 12 years older than her. The best part has been all the fun we had and how she takes care of me. The worst part is not any fault of our own, but she suddenly went deaf within a month and we lost a lot of communication about 3 years ago. We are still going strong though.
Thank you for sharing about your times here
I addition to a 10-20 year age gap I would add that her age should be over 30. A key decision point for me was to learn that she wasn’t a party animal. She is happy to just chill most of the time. My Thai wife was 35 when I met her and we have a 26 year age gap. We’ve been together 5 years and married for 3 years.
nice one mate, same me my wife is 41, we don't party we sit on our veranda and enjoy a chilled beer watching the sun go down.... that's my style
Ace guys love is a very splendid thing 😊
Miss one of the very big issues with marrying a Thai girl. If she is a traditional Thai woman you are marrying a Thai family. My wife made it very clear to me in the very beginning that she needed to help support her mother and father I also got a eight-year-old boy with her. We have been together for almost 20 years.
We live in the United States and I can honestly say that my wife is now my cash cow. She bought a Thai Restaurant and it has been very good to us.
Gotcha mate
Hey Trev,
I'm just over 60, divorced, no kids...been to Thailand 10 times and tend to hang out with 25-35 year old girls...it's just really fun for me...I'm very clear about not wanting anything serious right from the get go...we learn things from each other...music, culture, dreams...the biggest piece of advice I can offer is:
When a girl wants you to meet her family, just be careful...THAT is an indication that she is getting serious and will up the expectations of the relationship...
I learned that lesson the hard way and the fun ended the very next day...it was an ambush !!
But now I just keep things light and breezy...when they get too clingy...I kiss em goodbye...
great shout mate thanks for sharing
@@Buzzinpattaya Hey Trev, didn't you say that you live out in a farm area or a small village? I have read about snakes (which freak me out more than just about any other animal). Have you seen any in your area? None of the UA-cam channels about Thailand mention dangerous animals... If a girl asked me to go out to the village, I'd plead fear of snakes
Best thing I ever did! Second time in Thailand met my wife of 17 years! Sometimes it's best not to overthink and just let things happen naturally!
Nice one
Interesting topic because in my experience they all prefer Thai guys, the only exceptions sometimes are foreign guys who can speak Thai. The truth is most Thai guys don't actually want those girls so the girls become defensive and claim to prefer foreigners.
Most Thai BGs can only find Thai men that are, like the girls, the Thai lower class. They don't have much money so the girls go for Mr. Farang, who is assumed to be richer than his Thai counterparts.
Bingo. Right on the money.
Bingo....95% of the ladies I've had talked to had a Thai boyfriend or two before they broke up and she went looking or 'preferring' farang boyfriend for language exchange, etc. Do you think it's always a Thai guy who is at fault for the breakup before the girl started working in the bars?
Thank you for sharing
Great video and very true. Personally it took me 15 years of visiting Thailand often twice a year ( without doubt the best 15 years of my life and i will take some unbelievable memories to my grave.😂) before I found one that I could genuinely trust and love. We've been married for 12 years now and she's still amazing. Except for the silent treatment, sulking moods that she goes into sometimes if we ever have a disagreement. I think you mentioned it before. It really used to do my nut in. But now I take advantage of the silence and read a book until she comes around again.
Had the same experience with my Ex wife who was Indonesian. She used to give me the Silent treatment for days on end!
Thank you for sharing your experience
My most enjoyable experience was meeting a rich Thai lady who invited me back to her mansion. She was a business lady who owned her own furniture company in Bangkok and Singapore.
wow
I don’t care what other people think, if I come to Pattaya, I’m going to hit on every woman I think is beautiful! Not saying I’ll be successful 100% of the time but I’m damn sure gonna try!
have a great time
Jolla oh bro
Saying yes is part of the package in Pattaya. If you want a real relationship pick another town.
Guys this is the best device anyone can give you nobody can explain it better. I meet beautiful bar girl she tried to explain this to me but I thought I knew everything, I met a beautiful lady on internet 6 years ago (not working girl), spent lots of time in Thailand and in Australia , just over 2 years made the decision to get a Visa for her .Thai ladies are beautiful very smart and the know what they want and will not stop till they get it even if they have to wait a while, they are better than us in social media and they love to help and teaching each other .She is 40 years younger than me I am74 ,she now has better life and when she is older will not need much . (Don’t get me wrong I still think the world of her and I’m sure she does too, for now she has made my life better I just hope she stays around in till I go to sleep .
Thank you for sharing your experience
Dated a girl when I lived in Chiang Mai. The best part was that she was very caring, and really tried hard to take good care of me. The worst part was some cultural disconnect. Sometimes our thinking just went past each other and didn't connect.
nice one mate
You are a true lover of ladies best guy!
Mate you keep coming up with good advice. Watching and loving the direct approach. No bullshit. I've been 5 times in 4 years and will and are coming again to make a long-term plan. Keep up the good work Knackers.
Thanks mate much appreciated
Thanks
thank you so much
You dont need a 30 min video. Reason 1: Money Reason 2: Money....Reason 20 Money
Haha
😂😂😂😂😂😂 no she ❤️ me
Agreed with Andy
Same with whamen across the globe …
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Thanks!
Very welcome
it is very harsh but it IS all very very true!! Nail head... meet Hammer... as always Trevor! it is exactly how it is out there.. and not just in Thailand... we are and were all green at some point... nothing to be ashamed of.. its all life experience.. just about how fast we learn the lessons!! and thank god for videos like this to hopefully save someone the financial and emotional 'grief' of going through it first hand!! Nice one Trevor!
Cheers mate
They are attracted to foreigners for 3 reasons .
1, Money .
2, cash.
3, more money .
Sadly this applies to 'Women' rather than just Thai Women.
No matter how much cash you hand over to a Thai girl be it thousands or millions you can garentee they will be back for more, it's never enough .
@@seanclark2085 Again, sadly this applies to "Women" rather than just Thai Women.
Lol
My first trip to Pattaya 8 years ago. I had walked into the "Big C" mall. This girl basically shouted "I Ve been waiting for you all my life". Me thinking "likely story" and continued on with my day out. If she had been, then I also thought "sorry to be a disappointment" after all that time.😂
haha cheers
Great topic and coverage..... well done Trev.... you smashed this topic and kept it real.....
Thanks mate
I married a Thai-Chinese well educated girl from a well off family. 16 years and two daughters later, we are going as strong as ever. No main issues
Nice one mate
without even watching this video the answer is money money money. The fact that a foreigner can fly to Thailand means to a Thai lady he is rich and a Thai lady knows how to extract your money and if you think any different your a dreamer. Out of " losing face " most foreigners will deny this and yes its rare but there are exemptions to the rule...
Lol
I love your videos, and this one really applies. Got a lady who found me online, think somebody here in the Thai community gave her my facebok. Anyway, I know what you mean about being careful, so I been taking time with it. She is from up in the country, not in the bar life, and my age, which is why I even considered giving this lady my time. I think much of what was in your video rings true, as I have had the chance to observe many such relationships. The ones that seem to work best are, yes, when the man and woman are close in age. I think generational differences are as important as cultural. I hate to say this though, you can always take the lady out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the lady, if she had been in that life longer than a few months. Saw a lot of that with the Chinese girls who came to Saipan.
I will say that I do notice huge differences between Thai, Chinese and Filipina ladies. We have lots of Chinese and Filipinas here, and a small Thai community, and what I notice is the Guys who are with Thai ladies here seem a lot happier than those who married Chinese or Filipina...just the attitude and priories are different.
Things I notice with the Thai vs Chinese....Chinese are far more money oriented and dare I say "Cold hearted" when it comes to relationships. You will never be her #1 priority. And I know maybe one out of 10 guys I know who married Chines who are still with her...(Including me). Whereas I know guys who married Thai ladies and have been with them for decades.
Jealousy is an issue though. I see even my own girl will always text me asking if I am at a bar which got tedius after 6 months till I put my foot down and basically got to an understanding. That type of jealousy did ruin a friend of mine's relationship. Weird...seems in the last 3 years everyone I know who dated Chinese or married are now hooking up with Thai ladies (including me). I did explain abou the jealousy thing to my lady and it seemed to help. But I understand. Her husband 14 -15 years ago was a thai guy with a girl on the side, so...
Now one other thing that actually worries me is how some of us guys need solitude and quiet. But my girl always wants to chat...Hard for me to explain to her how important "Me time" is. A firend of mine had the same problem but seems to have resolved it with his lady...I figure communication is key.
Anyway, since Covid is ending and I can finally travel, I will hopefully be there in August. Her sister is in Pattaya, so we may take a couple days, down there so if so, Will hit up your Buzz In bar and maybe say hello.
Smashing interview with Billy Makin by the way. Really enjoyed.
wow thanks for sharing
I was married for 15 years to a Thai woman that I met when I was in Thailand. The attraction for me of course was her beauty. She was from my viewpoint very nice looking. Not drop dead, but still pretty from my viewpoint. The hardest part was communication. We see the world in different ways. She felt I should support her family even though we were 10,000 miles from them (we lived in America and they were in Surin) I didn't feel it was my responsibility to support her family who lived on the other side of the world. Yes, there were times I sent them money. But I never sent them money on any kind of regular basis.
Thank you for sharing your experience, and yeah I have to say I agree on how you feel. I am so so lucky, my wife never asks me to support any of her family although I do my bit when the mood takes me.....
@@Buzzinpattaya looks like she married you for your looks and smooth talking lol
Great video once again, love catching up on your old ones.
Man there are some haters in this comments, a bunch of suckers most likely.
Also maybe at first can be a money fling for them, but as long as you are a decent human being and treat them right, it can be more than that since no girl want to work till retirement as a bar girl. So be smart, be good and things might turn out good for you.
Cheers mate and yeah the trolls do make me laugh......
Nice channel! Thailand is not on my bucket list, but your insights into male-female dynamics are quite relevant for us gents living in Asia, even here in Japan. Cheers!
Thanks mate
I have been married to a Thai woman for 8 years. We meet in San Diego. She said she wanted an American because all Thai men cheat. Her parents are well to do, her father owns his own company.
The best thing is it's a very traditional marriage, she cooks for me, very respectful, etc. She works pays for own bills car, clothes etc.
The hard thing is the cultural differences and language barrier. So far though it's all been great.
Thanks for sharing mate, wish you all the best
I'm also engaged with a thai woman here in Finland. The only bad thing is her jealousy. She suspects me all the time even though I give no reason to do so. And the language is a bit of a problem sometimes with us also. In every other sense she's absolutely wonderful.
Great video, love the point about age. The reality is as we get older , we often want different things. Compatibility at this point is worth more than a "crazy out of control" love💕
Thanks mate
I have no interest going to Pattaya and no interest in girls in general, married already. However I find your channel really interesting as I’m learning about things I had no idea about. Fascinating to listen to your views
That's what they all say lol
Left school yet?
Married 🤣 what a Mug
Thank you very much
Hello bud, this is one of the best and most interesting videos iv seen, I'm coming to Thailand in Sept for 3 weeks, met a lady on a thai dating site, seen each other on camera so I know she is real, the videos you do are very informative keep up the great work mate
Thanks mate and have a great time
Yep, this pretty much sums it all up, Trev. Nice anecdote about the foot rub.
cheers mate
Best part - She was fun, always in a good mood and had a big appetite for bedroom gymnastics.
Worst part - She lied about basically everything.
Gotcha
😂
Great overview and discussion of this topic
Thank you very much
They prefer Thai men, but they know foreign men have money. This is not the case 100% of the time, but this is the prevailing reason. Do a simple observation and look at the number of girls with full Thai children before they date a foreigner.
Gotcha
I'm glad some people are able to look past the tired myths and sloppy delusions.
Very informative Trev and true 🙏
Thank you
I'm married to a Thai lady. Best part is she's very caring and genuine. Worst part... Still waiting to figure that out. 4 years married and we're in California. And I met her first on Thai Friendly 🤟. And my wife is 22 years younger. I find that a majority of the ladies are looking for a stable relationship like you said. My wife works at a Thai restaurant and make great money. She saves most of it and loves to spend it too. She's very generous and loves nice things: Gucci, Louie etc. But she buys them. I make enough to support her and her daughter, who moved here a year ago, so she saves and spends and lives a easy fun life. I'd like to say I got lucky but I know there are many Thai ladies like her. Use your gut instinct.
Great stuff mate, I have been with my misses 6 years, never looked back
@@Buzzinpattaya it's a great feeling. Yeah it's fun to look and flirt, we're guys, but I'd never go beyond that. There's always going to be younger, better looking ladies tempting you but they could never match my connection I have with my wife. Makes it easy. 👍. Keep the love flowing, great topic.
The best overview of Thai girls and farang interaction I've heard to date 👍
I'm in my 60's so too long in the tooth to believe a 20 something would have any interest in me other than financial, its still flattering. We've all heard 'Thai man no good' reply, which is just to boost your ego. I'm friends with a few Thai ladies who are in their mid 40's. known them for several years, and I've asked them the same question, why farang, and the best answer I've had was 'farang men don't judge'
I took this to mean that a thai woman who has 2 kids and hubby has buggerd off, leaves her pretty much invisible to a thai man as they all want young women with no kids, yet a farang is more likely to take her and her kids
Thank you
It's interesting reading some of the comments. My feelings are people are people, no matter what country they are from. I have seen just as many men loss everything to western women who they believed would be with them till death do us part. And I was one of these!!! I believe it comes down to communication and understanding the needs of both parties. Will there be horror stories, of course!! But that can happen no matter where you live, and who you live with.
Good point, no matter how money hungry a thai/foreign woman is, a woman from your own country can clean you out even worse with our crooked legal systems.
Agreed when I got divorced it cost me a fortune
Thankyou very much mate, I showed this to a friend of mine and he was thrilled with how spot on you are and says he cant wait to visit buzzin bar. Its been three years so everyones a bit on edge!
Thanks mate look forward to meeting you
@@Buzzinpattaya
Believe me we are too!
I've been with my Thai woman for 18 years. We started a Thai massage where we both work. So we are doing fine. And it's a small town in Sweden so no extra massage. So the good Thai women are out there.
Fantastic mate
One of your best videos ever. A lot of info, logic and common sense. THANKS !!!
Thank you very much
To answer your two questions. 1. I've been in a relationship with my Thai girlfriend for almost six years and the best part is The Thai culture. Even though she was once married to an American and lived in the USA for a short time, she is not what I call Westernized. She is still 100% Thai and her number one priority is making me happy. 2. The toughest I'd have to say is actually two things first the language barrier. Even though she speaks English quite well I still speak very little Thai, and occasionally we have a subject she simply can't explain in English and with my limited Thai I likewise can't understand. Which leads me to part two and that is when a Thai woman gets frustrated or mad she shuts down. She simply refuses to talk about what ever it is anymore. Believe me we've had a number of arguments about this. But its a Thai thing so get used to it. OK now to somewhat qualify my answers. While you've undoubtedly heard plenty of horror stories you should know that occasionally things can work out. I've been with my Thai girlfriend for almost six years now and while its not been all sugar spice we do enjoy a very good relationship. You should also know that I spent a lot of time in Thailand learning the INS and outs. I enjoy many a soapy massage and overnight bar fine before meeting my girlfriend and entering into a relationship. I learned her entire past. And after she quit working we now live in a house she owns. We discussed marriage in the past and she understands and accepts my reasons for remaining single, at least for now. So while our relationship is not perfect it is far better than any I've had with Western women. To those of you in a relationship with a Thai woman I wish you continued success and happiness. To those of you that might be considering a relationship I say proceed with caution. Keep your guard up and your wallet closed. Know what you're getting into. But for all the horror stories remember that occasionally things can and do work out.
Thank you very much for sharing your experience it was an enjoyable read thank you
I was married to a Thai girl for 10 years, absolutely the best girl I have ever been with, and we are still friends. I messed up, not her. I now have a Thai girlfriend, been with her for 4 years now, again, absolutely brilliant.
thanks for your honest feedback
I met a beautiful Thai woman about a year ago. She's one of the nicest people I've ever met!! I've visited her twice & am going back in November for a month. She owns an apartment building & doesn't ask me for money. I'm 70 & she's 50. Her 2 grandkids are sooooocute!! I'm thinking about starting to spend the winters there with her.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate
Hope all goes well mate
how did you meet her?
I met a lady from isaan work in the bar 49 days she tell me.... speak little english and don't like the bar.... I take care her 28 days and she really took care me everything... i was sick everything... she was looking for marriage and want a small house and be happy in the village.....
She have to many secrets.....
I don't what to believe anymore
Do what you're happy doing and just stay ahead of the game
Love your blog! Spent 2weeks with a lower class,working girl. The best part is she never said no. The worst part was she was constantly on her cell phone
Phones are part of their arms now lol
Young thai ladies 18-25 are like ferrari's they are fun to test drive and maybe hire for a day or 2 - but at my age I don't want to own one
Well said
While some have remarked Pattaya girls lack education I discovered they are actually among the most highly educated in all of Thailand. The dating site thai friendly Pattaya girls section shows they have a high % of PhD and/or Doctorate degrees. Faith has been restored and I hope to meet my dream gal pediatrician on Soi 6.
Go for it mate 😂
@@user-xq6xs7vb9z My comment about Pattaya % PhD's is tongue in cheek (no pun intended) On the thai friendly dating site the gals typically either choose PhD since it is the highest or they don't know what it means. That is why a search by education is futile on that website LOL.. Yes at the international student PhD level it is a different species than what the average foreigner meets. I dated a couple of lady physicians and they as you say were (to the best of my knowledge) NOT gold diggers. One drove 1.5 hours to visit me and on the first date absolutely would not let me pay for dinner or even share. The other one with similar attributes and if I cooked a meal she'd always bring wine. Also if I may add, they were very leery about male gold diggers targeting them.
Solid Video Trevor.
Totally accurate information directly to the point.A little some thing for the new people and a little something for the veteran Pattaya/ Thai Traveler.
Thanks mate
I am Australian 68 and been with my Thai lady 50 for 6 years. The good is her caring ways, good cook, wanting to please me in every way. The bad, sometimes treating me like or wanting to do everything as if I am not capable, but that is her way and probably all Thai ladies. Also taking so many selfies, every day 40 or 50 selfies and not one photo of me.
Ha ha my mates Thai wife is like that. Endlessly on the phone and taking selfies. Ah well...take the good and bad. Best of luck mate
Nice one mate
Yes, you offer to take their photo in front of a nice viewpoint but they don't reciprocate.
Omg… this is spot on in my experience😂. Selfies and doing everything for me. The only time I get agitated is when I want to do something for myself
Buddy, such good advice , thanks so much 🙏
My pleasure!
I'm in. You got me on the foot rub thing.
lol
Love the video snippets which reminds me of the many places I have been to in Thailand especially around Pattaya/Jomtien/the Islands and countryside.
Cheers mate
Very impressive summary
thanks mate
Great video mate
Thank you mate
I completely agree with the age. I'm 44 and trying to date Filipina girls here in Saudi Arabia. I generally stay in the 32-38 age range. More towards the older end. I find it very difficult to have any type of conversation with the younger girls. Just getting pay and play is one thing, but as far as having an actual relationship were we are both happy you have to go with a girl a little more mature.
Nice one my friend
thank you buzzin and cheers to you👍👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻
Cheers mate
It's not that Thai women prefer Foreigners, it's just that in 90% of T/F relationships the Thai man doesn't want anything to do with that woman. Damaged goods etc etc. Most foreigners end up with what Thai men perceive to be bottom of the barrel. Not in all cases but a very high proportion. Oh yeah, and the MONEY!!!!
Bingo. I came to see all the COPE comments and the “hehe still got it old boy” delusion
Gotcha
yeah any Thai girl that gets with a westerner is pretty much ruined for Thai dudes .. it's like throwing a hotdog down a hallway .
Exceptionally valuable and cognizant advice about the realties of Frang life!!! Holds true all around the globe in 2nd & 3rd world environments.
Thanks mate much appreciated
I've been with a beautiful Thai lady for about a year and a half now. I'm 66 and she's 41 and I would say that she has more trouble keeping up with me than me with her! LOL I met her on Tinder when I first came to Hua Hin. She was working for a small business that sold clothing online but they went out of business a few months after we met which was OK with me because I wanted to travel around Thailand with her and didn't really want her working full time. She is very frugal. I give her a small allowance for shopping and everyday necessities which she uses to buy groceries for us and to pay for incidentals. She had girlfriends who told her to ask me to buy her a "Louis Vitton' purse which we joke about. Very happy together, she cooks me wonderful Thai meals all the time and we have a lot of fun traveling around. I would't date a 20 something Thai lady but I would ammend your age restriction a bit based on if the lady is older than 40 and I would also say that using social media to find a Thai lady can work well also. Certainly a better bet than meeting at a bar I think!
Fantastic wish you all the best
You did well, mate. That’s a nice age difference. She’s not too young. These old guys with young girls are deluded as. It’s rather embarrassing all round …
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Awesome! Thank you!
A good honest great video Trev.
Bar girls are money-focused but ignorant comments saying all Thai girls just want money is a really a stupid thing that some fools say.
I have met many girls that work at a mall or restaurant that have taken me out and bought me drinks and meals. - and we remain Just friends,
I agree. I had a gal I had just met who worked at wood temple, offer me some of her humble meal if I was hungry. Not all are money driven.
well said mate and yeah my Mrs was working in a Real estate Company and was earning good money
Know a western guy that speaks Thai and used to lecture at Bangkok universities. He got invited out by women sometimes platonic sometimes not. Also had a gogo dancer fwb as she had multiple sponsors so able to choose her company in spare time. IMO there is lots of golddigging especially on the thai friendly dating site as well as fee for service LOL. Even in mainstream society there are a % of golddiggers also.
I agree that one shouldn't generalize and that there are a lot of good hearted generous Thai girls. I've certainly met a few. However, a Farang is much more likely to encounter the gold-digging type in Pattaya, Ao Patong on Phuket and in the bars of Patpong, Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy in BKK. Are you ever!
Great video Trev and never a more true and common word said.
Thank you
I enjoyed the mixed life of living in the uk and travelling alot to Thailand... and she enjoyed to travel to the UK oftenly also... was good while it lasted... life goes on tho.... gave up on western women many many moons ago...
Nice one mate
Hello Trevor, how are you, sir ? I can relate to this topic. I've first met my wife in 2016 on Facebook. At first she didn't want anything to do with me. But i didn't give up and after a year of chatting i travelled to Pattaya for the first where she worked as a saleslady at Central Festival. We were able to spend time together outside her working schedule. After returning home we kept talking daily. Another year later i returned to Thailand. After that she came to see me in the Netherlands. And the rest is history. We're still together and i must say that it's great. Sure, i've experienced the silent treatment and the "it's up to you" remarks. Anyone who is or has been involved with thai women should know where i'm talking about. But nobody is perfect, right ?
She is living here with me and she's is well integrated in my country. She is clean, hardworking...making her own money. Offcourse i've received comments like: "has the buffalo been sick allready?" But that is not the case. It's like you've commented before, Trevor: Men are jealous and women are looking down on you !
Well that means you don't have her sexually desire Fuck that pathetic
Brilliant comment mate and fair play to you both, nice one mate!
Not all the Isaan girls, the ones you call "farm girls" live on farms. My wife was a teacher at Khon Kaen Technical College with a Bachelor's Degree in Civil Engineering.
Spot on mate, sorry I didn't mean it that way if that is how it comes across......
l know im 6 months late and to be truthful this video slipped through with out me seeing it until now,I have watched many videos of vloggers and have been travelling to Thailand and Philippines for years and you are absolutely spot on with all you say and this is the best video l have seen on this subject. l have my own Filipina l have been with for 12 years and l bring her to Jomtien often, covid hopefully going so lets go.keep the great work up Trev.
Thank you very much mate much appreciated
Thai women dont prefer Foreign Men, they like their wallet. Come on Trevor, I thought you were smarter than that.
Thai women want emotional and financial security. Nothing wrong with that. It is the same with western women. I want companionship in my retired years. Seems like a good deal to me. Age gaps are not so important. If people can’t understand that then they have never been here. One thing I hear over and over is Thai women fed up with Thai guys.
@@martypoll too true mate 👍
Entertainment girls yes, village and non entertainment girl not always mate
@@Buzzinpattaya Foreignors go to Pattaya to meet Village Girls? LOL Fact is Mongers are undesirable in their own country and cant attract women of intelligence or wealth, so they find women of less intelligence and wealth. Mongers seem more powerful and witty to the uneducated, poor girls.
wrong again and again and again
Your information is great bud, I think your channel will do much better if you keep it under 10 minutes tho
Cheers mate
A 25 year old Thai lady "prefers" 40, 50, 60 year old farangs as long as they act as walking ATMs - that's the only secret, why Thai women "enjoy the company of foreign men". Sure, you can have fun with gold diggers as long as you are aware, they are not in romantic love with you and will never be. But they pretend very very well - it is part of the role model. So many dramas happen, because too many guys are foolish enough to believe sweet words like "love", "sexy man" mean anything real ...
Got you
You are the best, very informative and clear. It's a pleasure to listen to you
Thank you very much
If it flies, floats or fornicates, always rent it. It's cheaper in the long run!
500 Baht cheapy Dãte is my maximum feels better when the drawers drop don't want dry pussy
lol
Trev dropping some facts gents! 💯💯👍👍
Thanks mate
Thanks for your insight I’m a newbie. Was in Pattaya and other cities for a month and returning for 6 months in February
Glad it was helpful!
I told my Thai farm girl that I am not rich. She’s still texting me every day and video chatting. Going there to travel with her to the islands where she says she’s never been.
Why wouldn’t a man want to help support his woman?
Have a great time
Very nice, entertaining and thoughtful chat. Thank you very much. You are a great host! Glad that your channel exists, adding value to other people. My weak spot are latinas. (south american ones). Also loving, caring and soooo fun to have around. Great sense of humor. You can get into contact with a latina independent of the age, but as you point out in the video - it is usually smarter if you gravitate towards someone with a life experience and values not that different from your own. Besides the physical stuff, you'll have much more in common which help bonding. Peace!
Thanks mate and thank you for sharing
Well ive done a few of the things you warn against Iam 68 & wife is 41 now been married 11 years & we have 2 kids this was a big mistake for me they are 6 & 10 . She comes from Buriram & worked for the Government i checked her out when i first went there see where she worked to make sure she wasnt lying . We met on Thai love links i used to call her & talk to her for 20 mins everyday but it was hard work as English wasnt good she was nice to be with when i visited there although not much to do around there at that time . As i speak now it was a mistake to get married & bring her here her English has got worse & she mostly sits around watching Thai tv programmes on her phone . She has wanted to go back to Thailand to live at least 3 or 4 times a year i feel sorry for her but i couldnt let me kids go to live there .
Thank you so much for sharing your experience
Very useful information 👍👍
Thank you
Trev you are correct in what you are saying,I melt a farm girl in a bar,we had good times together, and she knew I always look after her when I come over I was fine that she still work in the bar,I didn't have to send her money, but her working friends kept telling her what they was getting and she started be greedy,at this moment not friends anymore,how about telling us how to find the girls who have good jobs and don't work in the bars, thanks
Avoid the bar girls and possibly pattaya all together … check out their social media. The first clue on instagram is the icons below her profile description. It’s very common these bar girls will have 1 per country. I have this one girl that’s got one for like 20 countries, so you can assume she’s had at least 20 guys fly her out and turn her out. Look at her lifestyle… always in bars ? Avoid! How does she dress? Fake tits ? Drives a new car but doesn’t seem to have a job ? … on the other hand I’ve got one I’m chatting with that seems to do a little of both, I can see her kindergartens children she teaches and wears her little Girl Scout uniform to work, and I see the occasional party pics also, which is fine a working girl needs to unwind… if got another she works for Sony in the Amata city and I can see her in her uniform everyday and we’ve talked finances, usual 15000 tbh per month … some are keepers some belong to the streets 😂 then again I’m sure there must be a few diamonds in the rough but it might cost a few thousand pounds to find them
Thanks for sharing your experience
The problem is you left Thailand. You have to stay here.
Hi I like your video today you explain A lot of things 👍👍
thank you
Thanks mate for the highly informative episode! I'm age 72 and seek a Thai woman half my age plus!
Happy searching
Mine is 40 years younger, and we are very well suited...... she's a beautiful transgirl (and under 5' 5").
I remember an incident when I was visiting Bangkok for business on a monthly basis for about 4 years, back in the 2004-2008 timeframe. I was staying in a nicer hotel downtown, sitting in the lobby waiting for the factory owner to pick me up for dinner and I see this older guy come in with a young Thai girl in her early 20s on his arm. He was using a walker to get along, and had an oxygen bottle hooked to the walker and a tube going to his nose. As they slowly made their way across the lobby and to the elevator I could not help but think to myself that this was going to be his last night on this earth, but at least he would die with a smile on his face.
My dad took me to Thailand when I was 19 years old. I met this beautiful Thai girl who was 2 years older than me. I told her that I had no money but she still kept in contact.
Nice one mate
A typical Thai woman does not want to spend her life with a foreign man. Single mothers with kids are the ones who choose relationships with foreign men and they do it for money first and foremost. In Thai society single mothers and bar girls are unwanted by most Thai men. To a Thai woman the appeal of a foreign man is that he has access to more money, is taught to put the woman’s feelings first, is willing to raise another man’s children as his own, and has fewer rights against being scammed and left destitute under Thai law.
Correct! Farangs are regarded as similar to dogs -- You seem to be understanding that! Thai's look down on the typical Pattaya Farang.
Okay my friend
Not always true. Some have no kids , work hard , had bad relationships with Thai men and want a change to try the Farang ..
@@jonhobson3592 Indeed there are exceptions and edge cases as you say but I think it's important to avoid deluding ourselves.
@@FIRSTLAST-mk9dg yes agreed. I’m going to try and be calm , look out for any warning signs. She works , no kids , not asked for money help. Yet 🥺😬.. maybe when I’m back home it’ll begin. We have already had a money discussion. Haha 😂
Absolutely spot on there mate , good video
thanks mate
The title is not quite right. Only Thai bargirls prefer foreign men. Not regular Thai women.
So true
Bar girls prefer Thai man...you ever hear about the after hour clubs that have young Thai men for hire?
Bargirls neither in my experience lol
Many BGs actually prefer girls. Fact.
My wife gets plenty of inquiries in her village from middle age women looking for a farang husband. It is not just the bar girls.
Great vlog and some really good points. Just my tuppence on the sites though, TF etc, last time out I found it an almost perfect resource. If you can identify the matches who are obviously seeking what your looking for then it's just ideal. No BF's and everything sorted ahead of liaison, maybe I was just lucky but never had a bad experience. Might be a bit tricky to detail what those 'obvious' signals are though on this channel.
Thank you for sharing your experience
I do agree with all your points and agree far as age gap goes because I started with a younger lady and it didn't work out because she wasn't honest and very demanding so it didn't work out meet a beautiful lady just four years younger than me and no I'm more happy than I ever thought I would be so if you want a long relationship try to find a good lady close to your age and I'm sure you will be happy 👍😊
Niece one mate glad all worked out for you
And probably one that is not already a prostitute…
Very interesting and useful video! Thanks Trevor 👍
Thank you I'll do my best
Why would a Thai woman choose to have a relationship with a farang who doesn't speak Thai, has no family here, and is often older than her? Let me guess... Pure love...
for some true, but you can learn Thai, have children, age is a number
Thanks buzzing Pattaya for the info about the women's inThiland,take your time and ask questions about what you want and expect?
welcome mate
Good topic Trevor.... I will be completely open by admitting that I have had a bad experience with a young lady who I thought was right for me but the problem was the age gap of 33 years... forever love does not exist as nothing can be guaranteed in terms of sustainable companionship etc... this particular girl expected me to bar fine her for the entire time that I was on holiday and it wasn’t long before I found myself in a very difficult situation that even the local authorities refused to give assistance when I tried to end the relationship. I must apologise for the disruption that took place in your bar but it was a miracle I escaped with my skin.....I now have a beautiful girlfriend who works in a bar and does not go out with customers for the sake of our relationship even though I can at best visit Pattaya 2-3 times a year. With no bar fines and payment for services, our relationship seems to be working so for all the guys looking for a companion there are options available. My lady understands that I come to Pattaya for a holiday and accepts the fact that I visit many bars (including yours) for the purpose of playing pool and fooling around with the bar girls.... Remember one thing guys......It’s ok to get your appetite when away from your girlfriend but please remember that dinner is always available at home.....cheers.
Thank you for sharing your experience and yes Saturday these things happen. I'm glad things worked out for you
The quote from my wife was "You can look at the menu, but you just can't eat".
Good explanation tevor…
Thank you
This is a good subject. I think the first thing we need to really understand in that everyone wants security for their life. Most foreigners from a first world country traveling have good jobs that give us money. Many of these ladies we meet are poor with limited options. Like it or not, money is the name of the game, you are the job. That said, I have been luck with most of the girls in have met. I have had relationships with "working girls" and a few professional working women, one a teacher and one an accountant. Most but not all of the young bar girls really just want money to support their families and their life. That is just the truth you will have to deal with. I have meet a few bar girls that were really great ladies and they where up front with the fact that they just wanted someone to support them, no games. But the one thing that they all wanted was someone to treat them right. Men who will make them feel safe and treat them well. Another thing I that each girl has treated me like a king. They have set the bar high for the women here at home. I say, try to pay attention to the Thai woman you get involved with. There are many disaster stories out there. Friends that I have told about the party that a vacation in Thailand can be, I warn them to just be nice, be firm (when it comes to money spent) and to not fall in love, quickly. The girl I am currently involved with I have known for more than 10 years. She is a bit younger and was a bar girl years ago. Today she working at a more regular job and still trying to make money to have a good life. She want to build her own home so she can be independent. She tells me she does not want to depend on a man to secure her future. She has only been a friend before but now we are together and far out of the bar scene. It is the best time I have ever had in Thailand with her.
Great comment mate thank you
A succint and well laid out analysis.
Thank you
Reminds me of the old saying: “Women love opportunistically and men love idealistically”
gotcha mate
Very eye opening cultural information. Thank you bro
Welcome mate
In general Thai women do not prefer foreign man...their man attraction is Thai man....when she says she doesn't like Thai man what she means is she doesn't like a poor man. Thai woman heirarchy of love is parents, kids, siblings, family, friends, dogs, farang....$$$$$$$ most of all
spot on .thai rak thai.
Gotcha
Great info Trevor had a few long term thai ladys relationships with bar girls who go back home to the village after we meet always starts off great but over time unless you take them to your home country or go live in toyland it will not last not so much the age gap it's the culture difference better off just have a good time while your there always be another waiting round the corner it's all about the money 100%
thanks for sharing mate