The reason so many men overstep the relationship, promise too much, and leave heartbreak and hurt feelings behind them is because they've never had a girl like them before and they are desperate and willing to do anything to keep what they think they have. I've been thinking a lot about what you said about how the bars don't bring you a towel to wipe your sweat anymore, and the thing about that is western women have gotten so much worse in the last 20 years that Thai bar-girls don't need to do nearly as much as they once did to appear to be super-stars in the eyes of western men.
Haven’t they just , I find Western women impossible to date , During my 20 months back in Covid UK when on a good few dates but found them awkward at best , here in Mexico got a wonderful date after only a week
Trevor, your videos should be mandatory viewing for 1st timers going to Thailand and although It’s highly unlikely that I’ll ever get to the Far East, I am a subscriber and very much enjoy your logical, respectful attitude.
Fluckin' hell Trev. That is just about the best lesson/advice you could ever get. I particularly respect you for explaining the whole situation from the poor girls' point of view. Respect to your knowledge of things out there and your obvious concern for the poor girls. We all need to be reminded of why/how they ended up there and that they're human beings just like us..
No matter how old you are. I had it as a young 25 year old travelling around. I revisited the same girl a few times over a few years but They couldn’t give a monkeys once you’re on the plane.. They spread bet. You’re probably one of 2-3
I had one trash my room long ago. Eventually she left the room. Most of my stuff was destroyed. A couple of days later, I found her hiding in the bushes near my condo entrance. She said she had been there every night since she left to see if I brought anyone back. Since then, I only use short time rooms and never tell them where I live.
After spending the evening with a woman in Koh Samui I told her it was nice to meet her and sent her on her way. When she was leaving I explained to her that I had a business meeting at a restaurant that evening and that I would not be able to see her. Well, that was a mistake! At 5PM sharp (reservation was at 6) she showed up at my door dressed to impress for dinner. I explained to her that I could not take her to dinner and the pouting began. Eventually she left and I made my way to dinner (on the other side of the island). My buddy and I get done with dinner and walk into a gogo bar directly across the street from the restaurant. Wasn't feeling the vibe so we left after one beer and guess who's waiting outside, arms crossed, and shooting daggers with her eyes. Learned early that the Thai stalking game is second to none!
My very first relationship with a Thai woman was via koh san road. 2004 we spent three nights together, had a brilliant time staying in D&D hotel, woke up at noon, drank in koh san centre, played pool with what became a small community of great people. Anyways, left on day 4 to go to Cambodia. Done and dusted. My mate bumped into her 7 years later and she still had a picture of me and her in her purse.
@@Joqxer It is sad on a couple of fronts. If she is still holding on to a 3 night fling from 7 years ago, with no contact since, she really needs to let go.
@@sephirtu yes of course this would be best for her. My point is , we tend to forget that for us it is a holiday flirt and for most of these women it is a dream (almost) come true . A way to escape poverty. Especially if the man has been good to her and provided.
The key thing here is to only get in a relationship with a girl who works a daytime job not a bargirl. It’s actually very easy to meet girls who work white collar professions on badoo and some bigger salaries than I did. The courting or dating process is well worth it to avoid chaos and stalking. If you chose to see a bar girl more than once (even if it’s a barfine) make sure she understands ‘this is just for fun and not for a relationship’. Just say it once at the end of each night before you leave the entertainment area. If you aren’t clear with your boundaries she will try to claim you especially if it’s obvious you can provide a better lifestyle for her. This video explains the psychology very well!
your first bit is rubbish.i will could give you numerous examples.but here is one,freind met manageress of a bank.thought he had hit the jackpot.took her for a meal and a drink.in morning she woke him up and asked for 1000 baht. i have seen girls taken from nearly everywere.but never a girl who works in the markets.or comes around selling things.
Thank you so much again, for an excellent video. Do not promise more than you’re willing to commit. I’ve had to make it very clear with both Filipina and Thais that we are in the friend zone on a test run and it’s up to them if they want to test drive for a while, but I am in no way anything close or even remotely similar to a permanent sugar daddy. I always explain to them that I cannot afford to support them or their family in any significant way, and that I expect her to do her part by also working. I got many walkaways with anywhere from three days to three months, but one day when I was not looking I ran into a business professional in Isaan, and it just happened. We were both very upfront on what we expected of each other and it’s been eight wonderful years so far.
When l was in thailand 30 years ago l was a buddhist monk and walked around all those places you mention and was shown the utmost respect by everyone. A farang monk is big in their eyes and l was often invited into their homes even though l struggled with the language.😀
LOL! I applied your three-day rule to a friend of mine who was a U.S. Marine nearly fifty years ago. He was stationed at Camp Pendelton, California and would spend weekend liberty in Tijuana, Mexico. He'd meet a bar girl, spend a weekend of debauchery, and afterward, she'd wanted him to take her to the USA. He never told them he was leaving Sunday night. He'd sneak out and gets back to base before midnight. His stories were lively!!!
It's explosive because of high stakes . She is the bar because she and her family are very poor with no prospects. A farang comes along and financial it is highly transformative for her and her family's future . She breaks up , loses face and financial support for the family and it gets ugly .
Take a look 👀 from the other side is that you are taking her away from her high salary of 30K_45k+ a month plus all her barfines ,her drinks tips and also the many customers that tip her everyday.so many girls have built home for they families.what would a top earners really pull in high season maybe more than the average guy. 😉 ST 3k LT 5k= month around B150k is possible?? an ex gf apartment 🤪 walls was pin with so much cash under the bed.in jars everywhere you look.think she would think business First 👀
The moral of the story is: Thailand or not, if you want to play the big shot sugar daddy, you better keep that tap running. Because when the tap stops, your arm candy will turn into a vicious bitch. It happens in Thailand, America, anywhere. LOL
This is a great topic to cover Trev, I know a few guys that were smashed over the head with an ashtray or beer bottle by their Thai girlfriends while trying to end things - guys be careful and remember all good things must come to an end!
Another spot on video 👍 many of these girls are bi polar, or in Pattaya with issues which usually come to light after about 6 weeks, I’ve recently just experienced this with another one, they can leave you with issues if your not careful
***Great video Trev!***I LOVE Thai women! Absolutely Beautiful... very smart...Very Deadly too!***The excitement is worth Every Penny!***Can't wait to return Trev!***
Broke it off with my thai wife very recently. Gave her almost half a million usd in 2 years (she blew it all) and gave her every waking moment of my time. She still cheated then constantly threatend suicide if I left her. My father killed himself just a year ago, so that one hit a deep spot. They know how to manipulate you, and they don't care about the negative affect towards you either. At the end of the day it was only about money for her, regardless of her constantly saying it wasn't. Being in good shape as a not bad looking young man didn't account for anything, except gaining face for her to show me off. Lucky for me she wasn't smarter and wait a couple more years to show her true self, otherwise she could have been looking at getting some serious money from me as we where trying for a baby. I just cut contact, as I told her I would at the very start of the relationship if she ever cheated. Gotta say though no appreatiation for all I did for her, was the only thing that surprised me. Only renting for me from now on, never buying again. Yes i got fooled but best acting I have ever seen. Still don't know what was real or fake. Just don't care anymore to find out. Thai women are ruthless and wouldn't put anything past them now.
Trevor, loss of face is the big thing for them. Saying that I've had a few very nasty situations here in Australia when I've broken off the relationship. I've been stalked, assaulted and continually verbally abused in public and over the telephone. You would have to have rocks in your head to get seriously involved with a woman you met in a the night life industry. Normal relationships are hard enough without all the baggage they come with.
Good advice. Even the straight one have bad tempers. Beware. They will do you over if you finish with then ( lose of face). Be very careful. Once they decide you belong to them that’s it. Lovely people. Don’t bullshit them. They’re serious.
Yeah my first trip to Thailand I found out about this the hard way! I thought if they worked in a GoGo and I paid that I could go in the same GoGo and pick a different girl. I didn’t think they would care. Lol
I raised 2 boys" they both joined the Navy together a couple years ago" I gave them 1 piece of advice when they started dating and I said" To never ever ever forget that every girl you date is Someone's daughter!
Thai and Cambodian girls can go crazy if a man finishes with them, though for some reason Vietnamese, Burmese, and Lao girls are a lot more reasonable and sensible. My theory is that Thai and Khmer (Cambodia) girls base their behaviour on the silly local soap operas they are brought up on. To the guys in the comments who say women are the same everywhere, that just indicates you have never been in a relationship with a Thai or Khmer girl. Very few Western, African, or South American girls would whip out a knife and try to stab you in the jugular when you break up with them, but few Thai or Khmer girls won't. Anyway, the best way to end a relationship with a Thai girl is to not enter into any such relationship in the first place, and the best way to do that is to not present yourself as the sort of guy a Thai (or Khmer) girl would *want* to have a relationship with. So, how do you do that? Easy! As I have said before, never advertise your wealth; you *never* benefit. I never tell a girl that I own properties or that I have shares in businesses. Why would I need to ever tell them that? How would I benefit? When they ask me what I do I tell them the truth, that I am retired. Since they can see I am in my early 50s they always get excited at that point (early retirement = dollar signs!), but I fib and say I was offered early retirement in the economic downturn of 2008/2009 and it only amounts to the same as a state pension. If I take them to my Pattaya condo (which would be rare) I just say it belongs to a good friend of mine and he lets me stay there for free. There are no pictures of me on the walls, only stuff I have collected from the countries I formerly lived and worked in, so they have no reason to disbelieve me. I wear normal clothes and do not lead an extravagant lifestyle so they have no reason to suspect I am playing possum. My watch is very expensive (it is an outdoor expedition device) but it is black, plastic, and chunky and so looks like a US$5 Casio digital watch. I have no gold or silver rings, bracelets, or necklaces, or any other ostentatious baubles. Remember, if you let a girl know you are comfortable financially - and she wants to be with you - then you will never know if she wants to be with you to be with you, or if she is just after your money. So, to the guys who think they have found a Thai (or Khmer) girl, especially a bar girl, who they think is "different" (how many times have I heard that one!) then this is my advice: Tell her you have lost *everything* on the stock exchange, and/or that the bank have foreclosed on your property/properties, and/or that your business partners have kicked you off the board, etc. Tell her that, as a result, you will need to get a job in Thailand teaching conversational English, either via private lessons or at a language school, and you estimate your income will be THB40,000 in a good month. If she is still there by the time you finish the sentence then you might have found that one in a million, though most will be long gone. A few friends of mine have on my advice tried this test and their GF who "loved" them either left that very night (!) while they were sleeping or was no longer there when they got home, never to be seen again.
Hi trev Happy New year to you and your family been lucky married for almost 9 years to a pocket rocket ups and downs but love each other lots great video as usual.darren.
Yes. Darren. .... those of us who are lucky enough to find a diamond in the rough , feels like winning a lottery. .... mine departed after 10 yrs due to cancer , still MISS her presence. .....
Great video. I don’t think many people think about these relationships from the girl’s perspective. I’d also say that this video is relevant for Philipines as well.
Any successful relationship are 50/50 at BEST! If you knew that the flight to Thailand will crash 50 percentage of time, would you still go? Meaning, why would you eat only one type of candy in a candy store? Enjoy the different flavors, styles and types. Then when you think you've done it all. Do it again with a smile. Business, it's all business.... Get a second burner phone.
The Easiest thing to get in the entire world is a Thai Girlfriend.... the Hardest thing to get rid of in the world is a Thai Girlfriend ....my 11 year GF would not go until I forced her to. Single is the way for Pattaya guys.
I was in Pattaya with a girl playing pool. another girl asked me, if i would buy her a drink. she was gorgeous so i did. the other girl kicked me and kicked off crazy. I left them both at the bar fighting it out
I had a bar girl GF for over 3 years whilst I was a skint teacher , she used to go off with her customers which didn’t bother me and actually worked in my favour as I enjoyed the freedom , she caught me playing away but her reaction wasn’t what I expected , she didn’t go ballistic but she was absolutely devastated, that memory and how hurt she was will stay with me forever
@@MrStax40 It sounds much more personal than just being angry because of loosing a cash cow. Yeah, we all are human beings, we all want someone to love us...
Superb vlog.....I think you should name it 'Pattaya 101' If you've never spent time with a Thai Woman, you'd never believe the power of a woman!! "Hell has no Fury, Like a Woman Scorned" Pattaya is a University of Life...All wrapped up...This Vlog is FACT!! Pattaya 101...🙏🍻
Thai men fully understand how volatile Thai women can be, that's why they usually disappear early on. As a western man in Thailand long-term you really should do as Thai men do and settle for having 2-4 different Giks, who you see only when you need to. Make sure the girl understands from day one that she is 1 of 4 Giks who you would like to see on an irregular basis and she will happy with that.
Gik and ONLY Gik. Don’t catch the feels. You’ll look at women differently, in general, after you witness a Thai woman flip her ish. Biggest issue is communication. When they commit, you’d better be ready. So be UPFRONT. Buzz should do a Pattaya field craft/safety series if micro lesson? Watch out for tuk and motorbike taxi drivers.
Once you have been there a few times or you spend months at a time there you would probably get it. After a while you want someone that you actually care about to Netflix and chill with as opposed to a different bar girl every night.
I’m sorry mate. That sort of scenario has happened to me here in the states when breaking up with a woman. They are going to get emotional and sometimes even crazy. As we get older, hopefully we learn to choose more wisely. Sounds like you have. I’m trying to as well…
Trev I thought you’d be offline for a few weeks after that Arsenal defeat in the FA Cup 😬😂 Lol keep up the good work! My favourite “youtuber” as always giving great advice etc!
You're a good man Trever. You're very sincere, I had a girl before the pandemic who's gone off the radar (not a bargirl). I think she's ran off with a Thai or an old man. Hopefully I won't look for her when I come back but I cant promise anything.
Thanks man! You have great videos and my English language understanding goes up to the roof as you would say :-) At first it was difficult to understand your English accent, but after watching your channel, I don't even care about of the spoken language anymore. It's perfect indeed. I'm watching these videos because I'm just another lonely man. Maybe my destiny is to travel to Pattaya :-) Cheers mate!
Hi Trev, great topic and anyone that has been to Thailand before will realise that this can be a fact of a serious relationship with a Thai girl whether it is you or a friend. One recommendation I have is to leave it way further down the track before you go back to the village and meet the family. Yes it is a great side trip and a lot of fun to go to a Thai village and get treated like a 'Rock Star' especially if you go to a very remote place, FFS I got followed through the village by kids as the only Westerners they see were on TV, so they automatically thought I was a movie star (Si Songkram was the closest town, however small it was in itself) The mere fact that you meet the family and friends means a lot to their 'Face' within the immediate people to her, I paid for the BBQ and alcohol for the party, which wasn't discussed with me, I just got given the bill and we went to the markets and loaded up the bike (with side-car) with food. The only good thing is that if this was a western party the alcohol cost would have been ten times more (at least) as most Thai men are 3 or 4 pot screamers, their wives usually drove them home earlier than 10 pm as they were maggoted. (3 large beers and the repeat stories and compliments, in broken English started flowing) Another piece of advice I have is 'ALWAYS TIP THE SECURITY GUARDS' of your hotel, it solves a lot of problems as they will make a point of remembering your face, name and room number so any issues unless you are a nob, it will be fixed immediately, plus the cops will ask them for their opinions of you as a person if they are required.
Western men (it seems) become blind to the realities of a bar girl's life situation, hope, blindspots after a few days of sex, being doted, etc. GIven the cultural situation back home, for many western men, having a young Thai girlfriend is a special deal.
Good points Trev! I'm in phuket for holiday right now and I have kind of the same situation. But with a freelance girl. Do you think it's the same thing? I like her very much and she likes me too I think. But I'm not sure how to handle this longterm
Do what your instinct tells you, by even commenting your already in doubt mate, just stay ahead of the game, lay a few tests out with money chats etc and see her response
@@Buzzinpattaya everything seems to be under control as long as I'm here. But I think freelance girls are to related to the nightlife in general that it's difficult to change they're mindset. I should speak honestly with her before I leave Thailand and see what she expects. Right?
@@germantwin7802 I know its hard to walk away, I have been there before. You have to put yourself first...always. The truth is, you dont know how many other guys she is involved with. In my case, i found out my ex-GF (Bargirl who I fell for) was in relationships with three other men. If you want a real GF with long term real prospects, education and family....then the night scene is not where you will find it. Good luck with your plans.
@@stevekostakis2983 thank you mate I will figure it out hopefully not in a bad way. But thanks a lot for your advice. I try to make the best out of it 🙏
I'm struggling with this now. I want to call it off with a girl, but it's hard. I've never seen a woman so invested. It's heartbreaking honestly. I didn't understand how quickly the girls might see me as the key to their dream life. Here if you're young-ish, mildly handsome, and have a western income, even a hint that you might actually like the girl will cause her imagination to run wild. I'm realizing if I'm too affectionate it's actually an unkindness.
They react quickly as they all see you as possibly the answer to their dreams, but you have to look out for yourself mate, don't get emotionally sucked in if it's not right for you, it's your life too mate
If you live in Thailand permanently pick your GF very, very carefully. If she moves into your Condo, be extra cautious. I know of one guy who had to get his mates to guard his place and police around to remove the GF.
I had "relationships" with a Colombian girl for 5 month when I was in Colombia. In 5 months I didn't took her "home" once. Always rented a hotel room by the hour and when the love for the day was over, both went back to our homes. Better be safe than sorry. Why change homes for a crazy one, just in case.
The only time I have had problems with a Thai girl was when I lived in a guesthouse in Pattaya, she worked at the guesthouse , and told all her colleagues that she had a relationship with me, but she forgot to tell me about the relationship, which resulted in her losing face. My way of dealing with the situation was to ignore her completely, it seemed to work because after 2 weeks in a very bad mood she wanted to have dinner with me at her expense.
Been married to a bar girl for 15 years. She doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, has no tattoos and no children. I give her a generous allowance, but she also works in a care home in the UK to earn money to build a house in her village and buy more land for her family. I get 3 months a year in Patts to play around while she's in her village or at the temple and we take 4 or 5 holidays a year as girls from small villages have always dreamt of travelling abroad. So no car crash yet.
It just happened to me last week in Jomtien. I planned my exit and I think she was suspicious. So when I had the opportunity. I dropped 3000 baht at the front door of our hotel room when house-keeping walked in. I grabbed my prepared packed luggage and ran down the street. Got into a taxi and said to the driver “go!” Not my finest hour but there was no drama 🎭. Needed to block her on social media etc. 😓
Good video Trev,this happened to me,I got involved with a bar girl,got back home and she started bombarding me with phone calls and declaring her undying love for me,she wanted me to move to Pattaya and live with me, unfortunately I fell very ill about a month after returning home and didn't want her to see the mess I was in so I blocked her on what's app (which didn't go down well) I didn't know the extent of it till a mate told me he had seen her ranting on Facebook about me (I am not on Facebook) I felt very guilty about it,until 4 months later I found out she had married a farang,so I realized I had a narrow escape .I eventually got a second opinion about my illness ( which turned out to be anoemia) and made a quick recovery) lesson learnt,never give them your contact details unless you really want to get involved 🤔
The reason so many men overstep the relationship, promise too much, and leave heartbreak and hurt feelings behind them is because they've never had a girl like them before and they are desperate and willing to do anything to keep what they think they have. I've been thinking a lot about what you said about how the bars don't bring you a towel to wipe your sweat anymore, and the thing about that is western women have gotten so much worse in the last 20 years that Thai bar-girls don't need to do nearly as much as they once did to appear to be super-stars in the eyes of western men.
well said mate
Haven’t they just , I find Western women impossible to date , During my 20 months back in Covid UK when on a good few dates but found them awkward at best , here in Mexico got a wonderful date after only a week
Trevor, your videos should be mandatory viewing for 1st timers going to Thailand and although It’s highly unlikely that I’ll ever get to the Far East, I am a subscriber and very much enjoy your logical, respectful attitude.
Cheers mate much appreciated
Fluckin' hell Trev. That is just about the best lesson/advice you could ever get. I particularly respect you for explaining the whole situation from the poor girls' point of view. Respect to your knowledge of things out there and your obvious concern for the poor girls. We all need to be reminded of why/how they ended up there and that they're human beings just like us..
Thanks mate I'm glad you enjoyed the video
They can do a performance worthy of an Oscar...And in 15 minutes they will forget that you ever existed...
Indeed lol
No matter how old you are. I had it as a young 25 year old travelling around. I revisited the same girl a few times over a few years but They couldn’t give a monkeys once you’re on the plane.. They spread bet. You’re probably one of 2-3
I had one trash my room long ago. Eventually she left the room. Most of my stuff was destroyed. A couple of days later, I found her hiding in the bushes near my condo entrance. She said she had been there every night since she left to see if I brought anyone back. Since then, I only use short time rooms and never tell them where I live.
Mate I say it so many times, ST Rooms are by far the best way and LT use a hotel, they are as you said crazy in rejection
Wise move
Good advice glad you portrayed the girls as human with feelings well put 10/10
Thank you
After spending the evening with a woman in Koh Samui I told her it was nice to meet her and sent her on her way. When she was leaving I explained to her that I had a business meeting at a restaurant that evening and that I would not be able to see her. Well, that was a mistake! At 5PM sharp (reservation was at 6) she showed up at my door dressed to impress for dinner. I explained to her that I could not take her to dinner and the pouting began. Eventually she left and I made my way to dinner (on the other side of the island). My buddy and I get done with dinner and walk into a gogo bar directly across the street from the restaurant. Wasn't feeling the vibe so we left after one beer and guess who's waiting outside, arms crossed, and shooting daggers with her eyes. Learned early that the Thai stalking game is second to none!
Ouch lol
My very first relationship with a Thai woman was via koh san road. 2004 we spent three nights together, had a brilliant time staying in D&D hotel, woke up at noon, drank in koh san centre, played pool with what became a small community of great people.
Anyways, left on day 4 to go to Cambodia. Done and dusted. My mate bumped into her 7 years later and she still had a picture of me and her in her purse.
Haha brilliant
Heartbreaking to hear , really.
@@Joqxer It is sad on a couple of fronts. If she is still holding on to a 3 night fling from 7 years ago, with no contact since, she really needs to let go.
@@sephirtu yes of course this would be best for her.
My point is , we tend to forget that for us it is a holiday flirt and for most of these women it is a dream (almost) come true .
A way to escape poverty. Especially if the man has been good to her and provided.
@@Joqxer yup, dealing with one in Pataya and another in BKK … it ain’t easy and I’m back there in 10 months time
nice video Trev, thanks for sharing these golden rules 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
welcome mate
The key thing here is to only get in a relationship with a girl who works a daytime job not a bargirl. It’s actually very easy to meet girls who work white collar professions on badoo and some bigger salaries than I did. The courting or dating process is well worth it to avoid chaos and stalking. If you chose to see a bar girl more than once (even if it’s a barfine) make sure she understands ‘this is just for fun and not for a relationship’. Just say it once at the end of each night before you leave the entertainment area. If you aren’t clear with your boundaries she will try to claim you especially if it’s obvious you can provide a better lifestyle for her. This video explains the psychology very well!
I was just thinking the same last night .....
agreed
Best advice
your first bit is rubbish.i will could give you numerous examples.but here is one,freind met manageress of a bank.thought he had hit the jackpot.took her for a meal and a drink.in morning she woke him up and asked for 1000 baht. i have seen girls taken from nearly everywere.but never a girl who works in the markets.or comes around selling things.
Perhaps if that fails, act broke and the problem will solve itself 😁
Thank you so much again, for an excellent video. Do not promise more than you’re willing to commit. I’ve had to make it very clear with both Filipina and Thais that we are in the friend zone on a test run and it’s up to them if they want to test drive for a while, but I am in no way anything close or even remotely similar to a permanent sugar daddy. I always explain to them that I cannot afford to support them or their family in any significant way, and that I expect her to do her part by also working. I got many walkaways with anywhere from three days to three months, but one day when I was not looking I ran into a business professional in Isaan, and it just happened. We were both very upfront on what we expected of each other and it’s been eight wonderful years so far.
Thank you and yes do not promise sound advice
Another cracking video, thanks for the info. For a newbie like myself it's getting me ready for when I get to Thailand. . Thanks Trev.
Glad you enjoyed it
Sitting here,in isolation with COVID,your vids are making my time a little better.
welcome mate all the best
I'm sitting in the same boat mate. Since my second test on day 6 here I'm in hotel isolation 😞 got tested positive. 2 more days to go
@@germantwin7802
Stay strong mate.
They are long days hey.
@@DaveTheDasher77 that's for sure 🙏💪same to you
When l was in thailand 30 years ago l was a buddhist monk and walked around all those places you mention and was shown the utmost respect by everyone. A farang monk is big in their eyes and l was often invited into their homes even though l struggled with the language.😀
wow
Awesome. 🙏
story of troll. people can tell anything to get their thumbs
Thank you for sharing VERY IMPORTANT information!
Thank you
LOL! I applied your three-day rule to a friend of mine who was a U.S. Marine nearly fifty years ago. He was stationed at Camp Pendelton, California and would spend weekend liberty in Tijuana, Mexico. He'd meet a bar girl, spend a weekend of debauchery, and afterward, she'd wanted him to take her to the USA. He never told them he was leaving Sunday night. He'd sneak out and gets back to base before midnight.
His stories were lively!!!
haha brilliant
love in Thailand is a very deep pocket feeling ...The farang ATM is creating a lot of passion.
Gotcha
Excellent commentary and good advice!
Thank you kindly!
It's explosive because of high stakes .
She is the bar because she and her family are very poor with no prospects.
A farang comes along and financial it is highly transformative for her and her family's future .
She breaks up , loses face and financial support for the family and it gets ugly .
exactly
Take a look 👀 from the other side is that you are taking her away from her high salary of 30K_45k+ a month plus all her barfines ,her drinks tips and also the many customers that tip her everyday.so many girls have built home for they families.what would a top earners really pull in high season maybe more than the average guy. 😉 ST 3k LT 5k= month around B150k is possible?? an ex gf apartment 🤪 walls was pin with so much cash under the bed.in jars everywhere you look.think she would think business First 👀
Great discussion and format!
Thank you
The moral of the story is: Thailand or not, if you want to play the big shot sugar daddy, you better keep that tap running. Because when the tap stops, your arm candy will turn into a vicious bitch. It happens in Thailand, America, anywhere. LOL
Indeed
This is a great topic to cover Trev, I know a few guys that were smashed over the head with an ashtray or beer bottle by their Thai girlfriends while trying to end things - guys be careful and remember all good things must come to an end!
Thank you my friend and yes you got to be on your toes out here
Another spot on video 👍 many of these girls are bi polar, or in Pattaya with issues which usually come to light after about 6 weeks, I’ve recently just experienced this with another one, they can leave you with issues if your not careful
indeed mate, sane then insane the next second
Very good topic, well done.
Thank you!
I could listen to this guy all night. I've watched a few of his videos now. All with very wise words, and not just for Thailand!!
Thank you
Really enjoyed this info mate. Thanks.
Thanks mate
***Great video Trev!***I LOVE Thai women! Absolutely Beautiful... very smart...Very Deadly too!***The excitement is worth Every Penny!***Can't wait to return Trev!***
Nice one mate
Really enjoy seeing the sights during your talks..
Cheers mate
This is excellent advice 💡
Thank you
Gday mate,
Great topic.
Hi mate and thank you
Broke it off with my thai wife very recently. Gave her almost half a million usd in 2 years (she blew it all) and gave her every waking moment of my time. She still cheated then constantly threatend suicide if I left her. My father killed himself just a year ago, so that one hit a deep spot. They know how to manipulate you, and they don't care about the negative affect towards you either. At the end of the day it was only about money for her, regardless of her constantly saying it wasn't. Being in good shape as a not bad looking young man didn't account for anything, except gaining face for her to show me off. Lucky for me she wasn't smarter and wait a couple more years to show her true self, otherwise she could have been looking at getting some serious money from me as we where trying for a baby. I just cut contact, as I told her I would at the very start of the relationship if she ever cheated.
Gotta say though no appreatiation for all I did for her, was the only thing that surprised me. Only renting for me from now on, never buying again. Yes i got fooled but best acting I have ever seen. Still don't know what was real or fake. Just don't care anymore to find out. Thai women are ruthless and wouldn't put anything past them now.
Im very sorry to hear about your father...
Chin up mate - rent for a bit but no man is an island ......
Sorry to read this mate, I hope you are OK
All women are same once the mask is gone. True love stories are rare. Mostly it's money for sex in a non straightforward manner
ALL Women* are ruthless. Regardless, hang in there man.
Great video mate as always. Ps love the shirt where can I get one 👍🏻
Thanks mate, those shirts are finished now sorry
@Buzzinpattaya ok mate shame
Trevor, loss of face is the big thing for them. Saying that I've had a few very nasty situations here in Australia when I've broken off the relationship. I've been stalked, assaulted and continually verbally abused in public and over the telephone. You would have to have rocks in your head to get seriously involved with a woman you met in a the night life industry. Normal relationships are hard enough without all the baggage they come with.
Correct mate thank you for sharing
Great video, great stories as always. Cheers. 👍
Thank you so much
that incident you were in sounds scary - glad that you handled it so well and came out unscathed.
Thank you
Good advice. Even the straight one have bad tempers. Beware. They will do you over if you finish with then ( lose of face). Be very careful. Once they decide you belong to them that’s it. Lovely people. Don’t bullshit them. They’re serious.
Yes you have to be careful as you said
Yeah my first trip to Thailand I found out about this the hard way! I thought if they worked in a GoGo and I paid that I could go in the same GoGo and pick a different girl. I didn’t think they would care. Lol
ouch lol
So that's a big no no? Guess it's more personal than professional after all.
Very informative. Never been in that position, but that sounds accurate. Cheers Trev !
Glad you enjoyed it
@@Buzzinpattaya And I bet if right after the break up, you started wearing colorful dreadlocks, there would be no stalking or other issues 😉
Loving the shirt!
Haha cheers mate
Well said mate. Thanks for sharing.
No problem 👍
Daring commentary. 😱😁 We absolutely agree about the 3 day rule. Wise words. Aqua Deymie, hmmm. Love it ❤.
Thank you
Hey Buzzin , Again well balance and fair story and comments , well done .
Thanks mate
I raised 2 boys" they both joined the Navy together a couple years ago" I gave them 1 piece of advice when they started dating and I said" To never ever ever forget that every girl you date is Someone's daughter!
Fantastic mate
Great mature advice for your sons to follow.
Thai and Cambodian girls can go crazy if a man finishes with them, though for some reason Vietnamese, Burmese, and Lao girls are a lot more reasonable and sensible. My theory is that Thai and Khmer (Cambodia) girls base their behaviour on the silly local soap operas they are brought up on. To the guys in the comments who say women are the same everywhere, that just indicates you have never been in a relationship with a Thai or Khmer girl. Very few Western, African, or South American girls would whip out a knife and try to stab you in the jugular when you break up with them, but few Thai or Khmer girls won't.
Anyway, the best way to end a relationship with a Thai girl is to not enter into any such relationship in the first place, and the best way to do that is to not present yourself as the sort of guy a Thai (or Khmer) girl would *want* to have a relationship with.
So, how do you do that? Easy! As I have said before, never advertise your wealth; you *never* benefit.
I never tell a girl that I own properties or that I have shares in businesses. Why would I need to ever tell them that? How would I benefit? When they ask me what I do I tell them the truth, that I am retired. Since they can see I am in my early 50s they always get excited at that point (early retirement = dollar signs!), but I fib and say I was offered early retirement in the economic downturn of 2008/2009 and it only amounts to the same as a state pension. If I take them to my Pattaya condo (which would be rare) I just say it belongs to a good friend of mine and he lets me stay there for free. There are no pictures of me on the walls, only stuff I have collected from the countries I formerly lived and worked in, so they have no reason to disbelieve me. I wear normal clothes and do not lead an extravagant lifestyle so they have no reason to suspect I am playing possum. My watch is very expensive (it is an outdoor expedition device) but it is black, plastic, and chunky and so looks like a US$5 Casio digital watch. I have no gold or silver rings, bracelets, or necklaces, or any other ostentatious baubles. Remember, if you let a girl know you are comfortable financially - and she wants to be with you - then you will never know if she wants to be with you to be with you, or if she is just after your money.
So, to the guys who think they have found a Thai (or Khmer) girl, especially a bar girl, who they think is "different" (how many times have I heard that one!) then this is my advice: Tell her you have lost *everything* on the stock exchange, and/or that the bank have foreclosed on your property/properties, and/or that your business partners have kicked you off the board, etc. Tell her that, as a result, you will need to get a job in Thailand teaching conversational English, either via private lessons or at a language school, and you estimate your income will be THB40,000 in a good month.
If she is still there by the time you finish the sentence then you might have found that one in a million, though most will be long gone. A few friends of mine have on my advice tried this test and their GF who "loved" them either left that very night (!) while they were sleeping or was no longer there when they got home, never to be seen again.
Yes it does seem that way they are very highly strung
Hi trev Happy New year to you and your family been lucky married for almost 9 years to a pocket rocket ups and downs but love each other lots great video as usual.darren.
Yes. Darren. .... those of us who are lucky enough to find a diamond in the rough , feels like winning a lottery. ....
mine departed after 10 yrs due to cancer , still MISS her presence. .....
Same to you!
Great video. I don’t think many people think about these relationships from the girl’s perspective. I’d also say that this video is relevant for Philipines as well.
Thank you so much
Any successful relationship are 50/50 at BEST! If you knew that the flight to Thailand will crash 50 percentage of time, would you still go? Meaning, why would you eat only one type of candy in a candy store? Enjoy the different flavors, styles and types. Then when you think you've done it all. Do it again with a smile. Business, it's all business.... Get a second burner phone.
Fair point mate and well said
It's been a great topic you have covered.
Cheer's Trev.
Thank you mate
@@Buzzinpattaya your welcome bud.
It's not a relationship,you are a CUSTOMER 😏😏
gotcha
Good vlog.
What you left underexposed is the aspect of losing face for her when you end the relationship.
yeah thanks mate correct
Great video trev had to say my goodbyes to my 2 week girlfriend this morning not gonna lie was an emotional morning
it's never easy mate
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences of Thailand... invaluable to many like myself mate
Glad you enjoyed it
The Easiest thing to get in the entire world is a Thai Girlfriend.... the Hardest thing to get rid of in the world is a Thai Girlfriend ....my 11 year GF would not go until I forced her to. Single is the way for Pattaya guys.
wow
This is a great video you are 100% right now I'm subscribed cheers...but its hard to convince a friend
Thank you so much and welcome to the channel
If you don't want a relationship pay her everyday your together, once she stays with you for free its a relationship
True
Very good, informative video. Thanks much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow!! Great video Trevor 🌴👍
English ladies can be crazy too 💥
Thanks mate and yeah they can
Thanks for the straight talk!
welcome mate
I was in Pattaya with a girl playing pool. another girl asked me, if i would buy her a drink. she was gorgeous so i did. the other girl kicked me and kicked off crazy. I left them both at the bar fighting it out
DAMN!!!
Legend the makings of a three way🤣
Really enjoyable video, this one! The info will help me for when I finally pay my first visit to Pattaya.
nice one have a great time
Hi Trevor.
Many years living here in my condo i have seen many relationships come to a end with the Thai woman kicking off shouting and screaming.
yeah happens so much
@@Buzzinpattaya One woman threw a television over the balcony 8th floor and scratched his car all over cost the poor guy a small fortune.
Great video Trevor
thank you
I had a bar girl GF for over 3 years whilst I was a skint teacher , she used to go off with her customers which didn’t bother me and actually worked in my favour as I enjoyed the freedom , she caught me playing away but her reaction wasn’t what I expected , she didn’t go ballistic but she was absolutely devastated, that memory and how hurt she was will stay with me forever
ouch, sorry mate
Huh
Probably she was so slighted because she was doing her job and bringing money home and you was having fun, wasting your money on other women?
@@dmitriikurilov3662 the other girl wasn’t a hooker , she was a work colleague
@@MrStax40 It sounds much more personal than just being angry because of loosing a cash cow.
Yeah, we all are human beings, we all want someone to love us...
Loving the B-roll during the monologue!
Thank you mate
Superb vlog.....I think you should name it 'Pattaya 101' If you've never spent time with a Thai Woman, you'd never believe the power of a woman!! "Hell has no Fury, Like a Woman Scorned" Pattaya is a University of Life...All wrapped up...This Vlog is FACT!! Pattaya 101...🙏🍻
Thank you so much and yes you are absolutely correct a woman scorned is not to be messed with
Thanks Trev great video
Very welcome
Oh ! She's not like the others! I know her, she's not like them--she's different!1--The most famous last words I've ever heard in Thailand!!
LOL
AWALT - all women are like that
Thank you for making this video this was very informing knowledge needed when I do make to Thailand so I do not start any firestorms.
No probs mate
Wow thanks for sharing most don't tell this side
welcome mate
Amazing information 👌
Thank you
Thai men fully understand how volatile Thai women can be, that's why they usually disappear early on. As a western man in Thailand long-term you really should do as Thai men do and settle for having 2-4 different Giks, who you see only when you need to. Make sure the girl understands from day one that she is 1 of 4 Giks who you would like to see on an irregular basis and she will happy with that.
Really? They are happy with it?
Probably the only sensible thing they have done LOL
Gik and ONLY Gik. Don’t catch the feels. You’ll look at women differently, in general, after you witness a Thai woman flip her ish. Biggest issue is communication. When they commit, you’d better be ready. So be UPFRONT. Buzz should do a Pattaya field craft/safety series if micro lesson? Watch out for tuk and motorbike taxi drivers.
You paint an interesting picture! Food for thought! 👍🏻
Thank you and glad you enjoyed the video
You can take the woman out of the bar- but you can't take the bar out of the woman!!!
In most cases so true
That is so true ! This is really what you can expect ! Don’t ask how I know !!!
Glad you survived mate
I'll never understand why anyone that goes to Thailand wants a girlfriend when you can have a new one everyday 🤷♂️😂
indeed lol
PREACH!
Once you have been there a few times or you spend months at a time there you would probably get it. After a while you want someone that you actually care about to Netflix and chill with as opposed to a different bar girl every night.
@@JarinXeno Very true, otherwise, it's just a business transaction and you could be left feeling empty
Isn’t that the whole point to go on a new girlfriend buffet?
great video
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m sorry mate. That sort of scenario has happened to me here in the states when breaking up with a woman. They are going to get emotional and sometimes even crazy. As we get older, hopefully we learn to choose more wisely. Sounds like you have. I’m trying to as well…
Yea gotcha mate, thanks for sharing
Exactly the situation i am in now. Thanx for the advice
Hope all works out for ya mate
Trev I thought you’d be offline for a few weeks after that Arsenal defeat in the FA Cup 😬😂
Lol keep up the good work! My favourite “youtuber” as always giving great advice etc!
Not offline mate but I am hiding under my duvet LOL
@@Buzzinpattaya lol don’t worry, there’s always next year 😎
great video thank you!!!
Very welcome
You're a good man Trever. You're very sincere, I had a girl before the pandemic who's gone off the radar (not a bargirl). I think she's ran off with a Thai or an old man. Hopefully I won't look for her when I come back but I cant promise anything.
Thank you and thank you for sharing
Thanks man! You have great videos and my English language understanding goes up to the roof as you would say :-) At first it was difficult to understand your English accent, but after watching your channel, I don't even care about of the spoken language anymore. It's perfect indeed. I'm watching these videos because I'm just another lonely man. Maybe my destiny is to travel to Pattaya :-) Cheers mate!
Come out here mate, it's all here.....
……agreed, Joco. Definitely!
Hi Trev, great topic and anyone that has been to Thailand before will realise that this can be a fact of a serious relationship with a Thai girl whether it is you or a friend. One recommendation I have is to leave it way further down the track before you go back to the village and meet the family. Yes it is a great side trip and a lot of fun to go to a Thai village and get treated like a 'Rock Star' especially if you go to a very remote place, FFS I got followed through the village by kids as the only Westerners they see were on TV, so they automatically thought I was a movie star (Si Songkram was the closest town, however small it was in itself)
The mere fact that you meet the family and friends means a lot to their 'Face' within the immediate people to her, I paid for the BBQ and alcohol for the party, which wasn't discussed with me, I just got given the bill and we went to the markets and loaded up the bike (with side-car) with food. The only good thing is that if this was a western party the alcohol cost would have been ten times more (at least) as most Thai men are 3 or 4 pot screamers, their wives usually drove them home earlier than 10 pm as they were maggoted. (3 large beers and the repeat stories and compliments, in broken English started flowing)
Another piece of advice I have is 'ALWAYS TIP THE SECURITY GUARDS' of your hotel, it solves a lot of problems as they will make a point of remembering your face, name and room number so any issues unless you are a nob, it will be fixed immediately, plus the cops will ask them for their opinions of you as a person if they are required.
Great comment mate thank you enjoyed reading that
Great video and so true! I speak from experience....
Thank you
The girls now are not like they were 20 years a go
so true
Another great video Trev especially for newbies, yes, have been there and done that also got the tee-shirt but hey ho. 555
Thanks 👍
Western men (it seems) become blind to the realities of a bar girl's life situation, hope, blindspots after a few days of sex, being doted, etc. GIven the cultural situation back home, for many western men, having a young Thai girlfriend is a special deal.
When you staring at an incredibly beautiful woman logic goes out the window many times
Thai girls know blindspots and fragile egos of older western men. So cannot blame thdes girls, nor the men
Motor boating some big ol titties in your face will do that to any man. "One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble". It's not just a song...
No problems with the sync on this video Trev, so probably a one off glitch. Looking forward to the next one, so keep up the great work mate.
yeah was weird how it happened mate, but all good now so it appears, phew! lol
Good points Trev! I'm in phuket for holiday right now and I have kind of the same situation. But with a freelance girl. Do you think it's the same thing? I like her very much and she likes me too I think. But I'm not sure how to handle this longterm
Do what your instinct tells you, by even commenting your already in doubt mate, just stay ahead of the game, lay a few tests out with money chats etc and see her response
@@Buzzinpattaya everything seems to be under control as long as I'm here. But I think freelance girls are to related to the nightlife in general that it's difficult to change they're mindset. I should speak honestly with her before I leave Thailand and see what she expects. Right?
@@germantwin7802 I know its hard to walk away, I have been there before. You have to put yourself first...always. The truth is, you dont know how many other guys she is involved with. In my case, i found out my ex-GF (Bargirl who I fell for) was in relationships with three other men. If you want a real GF with long term real prospects, education and family....then the night scene is not where you will find it. Good luck with your plans.
@@stevekostakis2983 thank you mate I will figure it out hopefully not in a bad way. But thanks a lot for your advice. I try to make the best out of it 🙏
Remember that WGs will, to their credit, treat a long-term deal (a week or so) like a holiday romance, so this may confuse you.
Great session...Yaya story...she goes ballistic because she losing her sugar daddy. Now it back to hustling in the bars again.
I guess mate lol
LOL! Hey Trev! You should've told her, "Don't hate the player, hate the game."
haha
I'm struggling with this now. I want to call it off with a girl, but it's hard. I've never seen a woman so invested. It's heartbreaking honestly. I didn't understand how quickly the girls might see me as the key to their dream life. Here if you're young-ish, mildly handsome, and have a western income, even a hint that you might actually like the girl will cause her imagination to run wild. I'm realizing if I'm too affectionate it's actually an unkindness.
They react quickly as they all see you as possibly the answer to their dreams, but you have to look out for yourself mate, don't get emotionally sucked in if it's not right for you, it's your life too mate
Straight FACTS 💯💯💯💯
Cheers
If you live in Thailand permanently pick your GF very, very carefully. If she moves into your Condo, be extra cautious.
I know of one guy who had to get his mates to guard his place and police around to remove the GF.
well said and yes it happens
Don’t ever move a woman into your space ever, no matter the nationality …
I had "relationships" with a Colombian girl for 5 month when I was in Colombia. In 5 months I didn't took her "home" once. Always rented a hotel room by the hour and when the love for the day was over, both went back to our homes. Better be safe than sorry. Why change homes for a crazy one, just in case.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
The only time I have had problems with a Thai girl was when I lived in a guesthouse in Pattaya, she worked at the guesthouse , and told all her colleagues that she had a relationship with me, but she forgot to tell me about the relationship, which resulted in her losing face.
My way of dealing with the situation was to ignore her completely, it seemed to work because after 2 weeks in a very bad mood she wanted to have dinner with me at her expense.
Thank you for sharing my friend all the best
She paid, you cheap skate . she should have dumped you right there.
Been married to a bar girl for 15 years. She doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, has no tattoos and no children. I give her a generous allowance, but she also works in a care home in the UK to earn money to build a house in her village and buy more land for her family. I get 3 months a year in Patts to play around while she's in her village or at the temple and we take 4 or 5 holidays a year as girls from small villages have always dreamt of travelling abroad. So no car crash yet.
Fantastic mate I wish you all the best
Good insight to keep in mind
Thank you
It just happened to me last week in Jomtien. I planned my exit and I think she was suspicious. So when I had the opportunity. I dropped 3000 baht at the front door of our hotel room when house-keeping walked in. I grabbed my prepared packed luggage and ran down the street. Got into a taxi and said to the driver “go!”
Not my finest hour but there was no drama 🎭. Needed to block her on social media etc. 😓
Glad you managed to sort the situation out
Good video Trev,this happened to me,I got involved with a bar girl,got back home and she started bombarding me with phone calls and declaring her undying love for me,she wanted me to move to Pattaya and live with me, unfortunately I fell very ill about a month after returning home and didn't want her to see the mess I was in so I blocked her on what's app (which didn't go down well) I didn't know the extent of it till a mate told me he had seen her ranting on Facebook about me (I am not on Facebook) I felt very guilty about it,until 4 months later I found out she had married a farang,so I realized I had a narrow escape .I eventually got a second opinion about my illness ( which turned out to be anoemia) and made a quick recovery) lesson learnt,never give them your contact details unless you really want to get involved 🤔
Wow thank you for sharing my friend and yes you had a good Escape there