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I’d love a check off list of everything Jared promised for 2024.. A visual checklist to see. Everything that made it in the PU and everything that didn’t.
Agree with your takes on all of this. Hopefully we get 4.0 before CitizenCon. I still have a feeling that we'll get a, "Feature X doesn't work for Server Meshing and we need to develop Feature Y so Server Meshing works" thing. Also have a feeling CitizenCon is gonna be a, "Check out this 45 minute video of what we want 1.0 to look like" and everyone will lose their sh*t and forget this is what CIG do EVERY CitizenCon and then completely fail to deliver. Just like the pre-rendered sand worm, the Lorville creatures from 2017, Pyro in 2020, SQ42 in 2018 and I could go on and on and on and on.
It feels like another year, to me. 3.23 had some good stuff but was marred by the patch disintegrating after about 2-3 weeks. Cargo is still missing and doesn't feel close, with how the very limited evo tests have been; overall it feels like they've hit a bit of a brick wall with development pretty much the second 3.23 dropped. 4.0 is nowhere to be seen and we're throwing new 3.x patches in front of it again. Meshing tests have resumed but are running on 3.22 builds and felt less like a meaningful step forward and more like the networking/deployment teams spinning their wheels waiting on a viable cargo build. The progress tracker situation is a meme at this point, and it seems increasingly likely that 4.0 slips to next year for the 5th year running. It's definitely the most Star Citizen year yet. It doesn't feel like a 'watershed year,' and it feels like their confidence and swagger going into it was mostly unwarranted. Still living in the unfortunate reality that whatever targets they set for themselves they just cannot deliver. And then they blame us for the expectations they set, get pissy at us for asking where tf stuff is.
Seems no matter what they do , how much they come up short, when they announce they are working on something new, all is forgiven, until the ppl get dissapointed again.
@@jaykay5838 people love to find reasons to complain. play the game and have fun like I have for 10 years. cause when it releases and they introduce their release mechanics, people really WILL complain. things like: - death of a spaceman - ship insurance - and even popularity of the game bringing in toxic players from other games will ruin it all. count your blessings and enjoy the game now, while it's still fun.
It is kind of funny that most of us kind of dismissed the quantum travel pathing bugs and such knowing that CIG was redoing the map. Like "I get it why would they work on these issues when the whole system is being redone in the "soon tm" future"... The only catch is most of the underlying functions where remaining the same
Well after the very cool Citcon trailer with the 30 minute spline, I was hoping to get most of the features this year, and I thought that by now Pyro would be a thing. But despite all the effort from CIG devs, it feels like we only got the fluff without the meat. Yes, water physics and cloud tech are nice, but where is the gameplay? Where are the actual improvements to the star map? The new UI is good, yes, but why has it all the same QT bugs, why is selecting stuff and zooming so clunky? I actually like the new interaction system, but why is it not everywhere? It feels like we have two overlapping systems right now, that don't play well together. I totally agree, overall progress is very dissapointing. The only teams that are actually delivering are the art and graphics teams.
The quality of life improvements look great but i have just gotten too jaded and disconnected. I’m starting to turn into one of those backers who says, “Wake me up when it’s done” and I didn’t think i’d get here.
I would expect several public server mesh tests after 3.24 drops to live, which will most likely be mid July. Q3 will start in 2 more days, so yeah after 3.24 I expect several mesh tests before they start testing 4.0 with evo
They use 'kiosks' (item banks) for inventory simply because they couldn't fix the 'open inventory' (virtual inventory) so now you just move some few items from the kiosk to the drawer and then have it available in local inventory and you put them on you (if i understand correctly, im not and evocati) reducing impact on the storage backend, it's in a way a white flag. Having said that if it works better and if they add a search and i can stack anything (can you stack armour or weapons or pyro tool now?!) later on im fine with it. All things considered there are priorities like server meshing which undoubtly is but i don't consider physicalized inventory a priority over like filling the beautiful worlds of even Stanton with 'life' and a 'soul'. Give me missions from random NPCs... Last time i was in Finn's Folly collecting some packages (then ofc placing the packages on invisible shelves of a distribution center didn't work so mission couldn't be finished... still don't know why they continue to force you put packages on shelves [even visible ones :)] which often DOES NOT WORK while lockers worked 100% for me and i could always finish these package mission) i wish some NPCs would ask me to do something for them like even a good transport mission where the NPC wants to go to Everus and i fly it on my ship! Give me city missions to give beautiful cities a meaning! Give me random stuff on planets, random creatures attacking me (not only, or almost, by choosing a fucking mission), plants to carve things from, food, water, let me cut rocks with the cutter (i would be happy even if the rocks would remain visually the same). Why can't we talk with NPCs (only basic stupid stuff from some NPCs) ? It would NOT hog the server because dialog is not really realtime, give NPCs a lore, give me a mission in Lorville to find someone and i ask NPCs if they have seen him/her.. FFS put the citizen in Star Citizen!... OK im dreaming, back to bed :(
I haven't been involved that long, playing since 3.12. I've been sitting things out for a while, not happy with master modes and concerned about the inventory changes coming as well. I'm not a PVP'er so that doesn't factor in, they just add a lot of needless time and complexity to getting just about anything done and it already takes a good bit of time to prep even without these changes.
The main problem with the game at the moment is the split between sim/survival elements and arcade elements. Logistics, cargo, hygiene, travel times and so on are in depth and time consuming. Master Modes and FPS combat with killmarkers is taken straight out of popular console titles. The two things just don't gel at all in my opinion, and as someone who wants the game to lean more to the sim side I find the flight model offputting enough that I have barely played since 3.23 dropped. Same goes for FPS combat, I haven't died a single time to anything other than desync during the past two patches, it is just pure run & gun gameplay now.
Try doing an MRT with Master Modes in a light fighter. You can't. The pre-3.23 flight model was super arcadey, as a Gladius or Arrow could take down fleets of corvettes. Not anymore; not with Master Modes.
I very much agree with you man. The game needs to decide where it lands on the hardcore -> casual spectrum and then build out all of their mechanics around that decision. Having some aspects be fully hardcore while others are super arcadey at the moment makes the game feel amateurish and slapped together, while also reducing the cohesiveness of the world.
@@Billy-bc8pk precisely, the skill ceiling was amazingly high and small craft had considerable cross section advantages due to the range... now we have this.
@@Eroamagorath Opposite way around. Skill ceiling was incredibly low, since evryone could just fly at top speeds, avoid fire, and every small craft (even an M50) could take down an 890J or Carrack solo. Now you get absolutely wiped trying to take them on, as it should be. It now requires actual skill instead of exploiting the desync-reliant speed caps from the pre-3.23 era.
As a newcomer that started shortly before citizencon my biggest issue is content and performance. I’ve always been a very patient person when it comes to bugs/performance etc. but this game really knows how to push you lol. They have a massive amount of devs working on this game yet it feels like they hardly make any progress.
I bought tickets to citizencon and I'm so unimpressed with CIGs delivery of their promises from last citizencon that I'm no longer willing to make the trip. My wife and I were really excited last year, but seeing how little of what they said at citizencon was real just makes the whole thing seem empty.
@@RainOfFodderco brother, it's not even an American company for 1. For 2, they do not meet the requirements for a scam or misleading the consumer to a point they could be forced to shut down. Has nothing to do with the American court system. If you're that mad about 45 dollars, you want 1000s of people to lose their jobs and way to feed, house, and cloth their families, you need bigger problems
My take: I don’t like MM, but I think I could live with. It doesn’t seem like ships are unique, though. Calling MM a QOL change seems like they don’t understand what QOL means (how can making it more complicated better from a QOL POV?) The other changes to ship combat kind of suck, honestly. Multiple PiPs due to changes in weapon speed suck. If CIG wants that, it should be more apparent which PiP is which. Quantum markers suck. The star map is better, but you’re kind of forced to use it. The UI while flying is cluttered. Mobi glass change is good, but why is it blurry? I don’t like that my ship components are essentially trapped. Why make it physical without a way to move it? Worst change - the lag, the horrible, horrible lag. (Must say that with an Invader Zim voice, btw)
Can they actually ever fix the AI? I mean the reason for this is cause the servers are too bogged down but there is just going to be more and more added so how can this ever get better?
Server meshing in tandem with spending more on servers is the answer. If they have less going on in a single server because they have more servers running concurrently and everything is distributed across servers it should help significantly. That and I'm pretty sure years ago they stated that they were avoiding doing too much fine tuning optimization to the netcode until server meshing was in as such a drastic change would undo a lot of that work, so they maybe have some extra performance they can squeeze out of the servers once they finally lock down the backend architecture. So can they? In theory yes, in practice we'll see. Eventually.
@@wenerjy Seems to me that this game will be very very expensive to run for CiG if it ever comes out. They are already talking about multiple server per system and I doubt that will be enough to be fair. So every system needs five or six servers times the amount of systems times the amount of times you need to have different instances since they wont be able to fit every player in one system.
Is a colorblind player, I REALLY hope the change in ship UI allows for possible custom colors. Even if just for targeting that can be set for all ships. Like a bright green or orange highlight for targets instead of the red would help me quite a bit. Also, a brightness and opacity slider for all the holograms would be amazing. I mean, my 30+ year old car has the ability to adjust the brightness of the dash, why can't my super futuristic spaceship. Also, on the fly opacity adjustments for things like mobiglass would make a huge difference in visibility when needed.
i've been a bit overly critical of development lately, hopefully not too much, but mostly because of the amount of stuff being released in rapid fire. the fear is that the iteration process is going to suffer, as it will be a case of put out something and move to the next thing. the inventory and interaction system did seem rushed. because everything is on "F" you end up getting weird conflicts. like when trying to use inner thought to throw out a can with anything else in sight, and the interaction wheel pops up on the other object. also the 2 main weapon limit (no hands allowed), and physical item looting appears to be altogether lost, because people were mashing "F" on bodies and picking up items instead of loot screen. there are substantially better solutions than removing features. imo, and have made posts about it, they should just shift anything relating to inventory to "i", and leave "F" for interaction and inner thought. maybe with right click interaction wheel. post was about Augmented Reality looting and Inventory "app" that could be toggled on and off, and could just be active as players moved. kind of like Fallout 76, except good, because there is actual plausible irl tech and lore to back it up and style it like a mobi app.
Love your videos man, you keep it optimistic but realistic. CIG has done a lot this year, and it's been pretty good but we have a long way to go. Keep doing what you do!
Sadly CIGs performance is about what I expected. I event called that there would be a 3.24, maybe a 3.25 patch. And 4.0 and pyro wont make it out this year. And more will get stripped out to make artificial milestones so they can say “we delivered” even though it was a tenth of what they promised.
I'm not happy you need to soft death a ship to steal the cargo because the extra crime stat 2 will give you a crime stat 3. Three crime stat 2 = crime stat 3. I'm not happy that I can't claim a ground vehicle or ship at mining outposts on Hurston. I'm not happy that inventory is broken about 25% of the time. I'm not happy that you can't transfer cargo out of a 2 scu or higher crate unless you log out and then in again. The bugs are just stacking up!
Mike, you say that reloading from backpack works? I use C54 and A03 and it never works for me, but even worse after the character tried to reload from backpack and failed (bullet count still zero) if i put more magazines on the body of the character to reload from there because it actually works it takes sometimes up to six or seven times trying to reload until it works... Maybe it works fine with other weapons?
They need to fix the basic bugs and stop adding features which keep breaking other features... Especically the ui on ultrawide screens has gone so far backwards its vitrually unplayable with some ships...
Is anyone other than the hard core players really playing? I suspect most of us are just waiting, year, after year, after year. And the years are flying by real fast now. What did SaltyEMike say "looks good if you can play it"? I bought a new computer back in 2016 when I first got into Star Citizen and thinking we're nearly there. Obviously I'm going to have to buy a new one now if I want to play SC but a PC capable of running SC smoothly will cost several thousands of dollars. Enthusiasts will spend that, but out of the million odd account holders how many of us can really afford to spend that. Gosh SC looks pretty but it comes at a cost, literally. Only the most modern of PC's are needed to play it, and Chris Roberts has chosen looks over gameplay because looks draws in the customers. Although its academic because without them putting an end to wipes I'm not going to play, and even after all these years they're still wiping everything you've done. Other than these updates I see every now and then I don't even think about SC any more. Often I forget I own a ship.
You might sea of thieves and maybe when you’re bored of pirates sq42 will be out ; the best is use sea of thieves a functioning game to meet find people who like ship crew gameplay and if sc gets easyoly usable bam transfer them over (unless they console )
SC starts having all the burden of all the game types available: survival (need to eat/drink, weather, etc), fps (equipmemt and ammo), crafting/transport (all the inventory management), economy (buying items at diff places), etc, for NO GOAL, because the mechanics ar not there, still after all thia time
Why you not mention about falling under planet and under floor in cities, missing COMMs when you want to dock to station, weird 'super engine noise' when you are entering to hangar, and then you need to store and retrieve ship again to remove it, Quantum Travel problems, where when you use it, ship automatically goes to opposite direction and you are stuck in QT mode, broken basic missions for new players where after accepting them they are not goes to "Accepted" tab, but money are gone if it is Bounty Hunter mission and other things like this? :)
Hmm, i'd ha e to say they get a grade of C at best. Its all fine and dandy that they are putting such cool features and ship in the game. But there are a few points which bother me. 1) Why is development so slow? - I get it that the game has a lot in it but they have a rather large team. Sure i get it that graphics take a while yo code up, and that it can sometimes take a couple of weeks to debug code. But for the size of their team this feels way too slow. I'm wondering if the team has goten so that, the developers are now stepping on each others toes. 2) Misleading information. - How is the ironclad going to help speed up development of the Kraken, why not make it the reverse. Devlop the Kracken first and use its development to speed up development of the Ironclad. I get it that some of the smaller ships can be used as training tools and are of high enough quality that they can be sole when they get to the final stage, with only minor tweaks. Im okay with that. But you can't excuse the ironclad that way. Maybe they shouodnjust stop concept sales until they catch up with existing backlog a bit. 3) Buggy releases. - Seriously, they have shown that they have game testers. Are they even testing 1/4 of what they are releasing? I get that a few will slip though, but why are there so many bugs. Why are we still dealing with bugs which are years old. 4) Confusing bug reporting/feature requests. - This is of high importance. Yet new players still are confused about it. How many ways are there to report a bug, heck i've been told to put feature requests on spectrum. Anyone have any clue where on spectrum? 5) Listening/catering to the 1%. - This is a developer sin. And CIG is more than guilty of it at many levels. Oh there is a PVP ship which has a bug, takes them less than a week to fix. But there is a major bug with box missions, still there years later. A1, Salty, and a few others opinions should be treated as the exceptions until ehough data is gathered to prove that their gripes are truely community concerns. But their concerns are good data starting points. 6) Mis-advertising. - This is true for many ships both pre and post MM. Probably the most recent examples are the new MKII hornets, and the San'tok.yai. Does anyone want to argue that the San'tok.yai stands a chance againt a hornet, any hornet? And the MKII's are suposed to be the superior/improved hornets, i get that the improvements done need to be huge, but they are suposed to be improvements. And don't get me wrong I'm not saying that this is how that the ships should always be the superior because advertising says they are. What im saying is that the ships should at least be capable of what they are advertized for. 7) Getting upset at data miners for CIG's faults. - The title says everything. I don't think i need more detail here. But I would appreciate some insight into the thought processes of what they consider balanced. Seriously, what is the point of missles in the current state of the game? And did their balance pass really do anything?
Tbh for me it feels like a repeat of the 3.17 to 3.18 cycle. 3.23 had almost no actual content, only qol stuff, the cargo part is delayed, pyro is extremely likely going to be delayed too and once it releases at the end of q1 next year, server meshing will blow up in their face, just like what happened with pes in 3.18. It's just business as usual.
This “push to 1.0” leaves me with a bad feeling. They seem to be now on a dash to push anything out to call it complete. It seems that investor deadline is most likely the cause. I have little faith in the project anymore.
I don't think 'investors' are the reason for the push to 1.0. My belief is that CIG wants SC 1.0 to be available when SQ 42 releases. CIG wants that 'While you wait for SQ42 Chapters to come, play SC' promotion.
@@childe57Investor pressure isn’t the be-all, end-all factor, but it’s important. News of one of the major investors cashing out would create cash flow issues that would be relatively small in themselves but would send a big bad signal to backers that might cut into their ship-buying enthusiasm.
D- I had low expectations. I fully expected delays too, but this long? It's pathetic, and the groups I play with feel the same. I'm sure "3.24" will be okay, but it isn't enough to excuse to poor performance and execution overall.
Comapred to the laundry list of things that were presented as coming 'in the coming year' at citizencon 2023 they're falling short and the larger the feature the shorter they are falling. In a game where they formally confirmed they were still shooting for 100 star systems at launch in late 2017 they haven't even released the 2nd system in 2024 (nor arguably completed the first system as they keep fiddling with it). Meanwhile their ship backlog isn't getting better and they are nowhere near releasing modularity as they have ONE SHIP with modularity slipshodded in.
It's a slowly progressing tech demo that I try not to think about since I've invested so much into this slowly progressing tech demo. I'm not throwing good money after bad by spending any time on it. EDIT: typo
I’m starting to feel the same, I want to love it as I’ve invested a lot but more and more I’m starting to hate it especially all the time syncs that takes away from fun gameplay
I think they’ve done a decent job this year at least compared to 3.18. I think there are things they could obviously work on but it’s not an easy task, anyone can be a desk warrior. All I ask for is content and smooth experiences but if something is delayed I’d rather have it delayed and enter the game in a decent state. Master Modes are great imo, want to see it get fleshed out more though obviously it’s not perfect. Loving the new missions too and distribution centers.
On the contrary, 3.18 was a patch that actually delivered vitally important tech (albeit in dumpster fire form). 3.23 gave us only the rep layer split, which was important but nowhere near as big a feature as PES. The vast majority of what we’ve had this year is cosmetic-and it ain’t that good!
The unfortunate thing is, despite the unending persistence of this narrative, 'delayed' doesn't ever actually mean 'enters in a decent state.' The reality we actually get is "late and still broken and underdelivered." Every time.
backpack reloading never works for me, i do the anim, i heard the sound but still no bullet in the gun... 😢in general i think 3.23 as lot of broken thing (also lot of random explosion, remind me 3.18) and i'm a little piss off because cig said the restructuration of team with sq42 dev will speed up the developement and the result 8month later : lot of feature of q1 patch moving and form q3 patch... but what about feature of q2 patch ? i never heard of that,it's seems they didn't even plan that (we know they planned 4.0 late 2024 since sometime) anyways i understand the need for money but i'm sick of the marketting team and the false promise just for the ship sales
I think they would have an amazing report card... If thry hadn't been so over competent about the consequences of sq42 going feature complete.... Dont have a lot of faith that game is near done yet... Also dont really believe everyone has moved over - seems some features are movin other direction
WTF i have never seen you so calm since i first watched you here i like to see that side of you more often... though i know it can be hard on someting like SC ^^
@@Redpillroost3r thats not it. i have a killer CPU. i think i just had to update my windows? idfk. cause simple restarts didn't really fix it, i had to restart and update windows and then SC worked for me again. i dont think you even read what i said. "crash on launch" meaning i never even woke up in the PTU. happening when there wasn't an update to cause any changes to the game i had been playing for years.
It’s not been a great year, I think the new game director has injected ambition and momentum that was much needed. There’s a lot to feel positive about, but also the performance of the PU has been increasingly poor and degraded. It feels fairly unplayable right now, and the new inventory kiosks are horrible UX.
Imagine by John Lennon Imagine 3.23 content was worked on already for years since much of the content was moved over from SQ42 and it's soo broken..imagine... Imagine the official news from CIG stating SQ42 devs moved over to SC and the development was supposed to boost..imagine... Imagine we are now half year in and we still haven't got the content for Q1 that was promised, things missing like player hangars item banks etc...imagine Imagine CIG actually giving a fck and delivering on promises...imagine Imagine SC actually becoming a game and not a cashgrab storefront money grab...imagine Imagine...cuz that's the only thing you will be doing with SC IMAGINE :))
I would say it's exceeded my expectations. But then again, my expectations were pretty low to begin with, because I know we've seen this movie a thousand times already. If 4.0 actually comes out before IAE, and it's not 3.18 levels of unplayable, I'll be surprised!
Losing useful features we've all gotten used to in a game without having them replaced with something better is never a good thing. Hopefully CIG listen to players' feedback and correct the mistakes.
I had a lot of fun during the ODI mission chain, but haven't played that much after. I'm mostly waiting on the cargo update and the hauling missions, also I'm hoping that the hauling missions will be integrated into the economy (for weapon cargo missions to spawn, they'll have to be manufactured, which require parts to be made, which requires resources, which requires raw materials and so on, I'm hoping on these kinds of steps for pretty much everything so everything will feel more alive and to have it make sense)
2024 is already the greatest year in history, and it's only going to get better as Server Mashing comes online and everything we were promised (and more) is delivered.
Look, I get the endless frustration about CIG and they're painfully slow development, but complaining about the progress "this year" not meeting expectations feels extremely premature. We've only had the first quarter patch, everybody. The Q2 patch is around the corner. Maybe wait until at least the Q3 patch before deciding how the 2024 expectations are going? Were people expecting everything shown at citizen con to show up in the first Q1 patch??
The Q2 patch is the meat of the first patch they didn’t deliver on…what is this cope. They set their goals, they failed to achieve them. Any other explanation simply isn’t fact.
@@SaltEMike Yes, cargo was delayed. That sucks. But it's coming in Q2 instead of Q1. Not great but not a catastrophe. Besides delayed cargo, we're pretty much on track, no?
Still only a single star system after 13yr. Major disappointment, esp after the early roadmaps (3.3, 3.4, etc) and their efforts at building procedural tools seemed to indicate that the pace of production on planets/systems/landing-zones would increase. Currently, 10 star systems hardly feels achievable, much less the 50+ systems that many of us hoped and dreamed about. At this rate, I am guessing it’ll “release” with 5, and then add a couple every 2 years, like an expansion pack of other mmo’s. Not exactly the galaxy-spanning Freelancer-like experience.
I uninstalled sc for the first time in 4 years two weeks ago. Couldnt deal with the terrible performance anymore and constant let downs. Hopefully ill be here in great health and spirits for when the game masssively improves ( eta ??? ).
I think CI have been working hard and have had some big successes this year. On the bad side though, I don't think they are where they planned to be as we hit the midway point in the calendar year and I'm not sure if they will be able to catch up given that we're heading into summer vacation season. Will we get to Pyro this year? Maybe; having it by October is becoming more and more unlikely though. If we get it I guess it will happen at the very end of the year with a kamikaze patch that technically puts it in but will need several .x patches in the new year to somewhat stabilize it. As for CitizenCon this October, all I'm expecting is a S42 release date announcement, nothing more.
We need a lot more features and updates! Its all tech but i dont care, i want more gameplay and have said so for years! Oh, and fix the old broken ass ships CiG!
It’s much more stable, making my cargo hauling exploits legendary. Not looking forward to loading cargo however. I don’t see the need. It’s a game, not real life Chris!
I said before that ln 2022 cig was crawling. But in 2023, cig was starting to walk. Now, they do seem to have their feet under them. There is a lot to be desired, but it's also unmistakable that they are making progress at a decent pace with a lot of things. Now may not be the best time to jump into star citizen if you are new. But it's definitely worth paying attention to in the coming year. And I suspect a lot of stuff is going to be added to the game I the next couple years. Especially compared to the previous 10 years.
System working as intended. As we approach 1.0 the wheat has to be separated from the chaff so we can launch 1.0 with a player base wanting to be here.
Yet still watching UA-cam videos on it. I'm probably the same to be fair. I've not played it in about 4 years. But keep an eye on how it's going. I've basically said I'm out until server meshing actually in and fully working. Until server meshing in it's not a MMO. It's still the make or break tech for the project. It's nice to see it finally start progressing though.
Most games and companies would have quit and walked away long before this. While it is frustrating at times what they have accomplished from ground zero. Building the tools, the universe and the lore. The lore is something you should spend time listening to and investigating. It really changes how you play and makes you far more vested. I spent 5000 hours in elite dangerous. I learned about the lore and worked with the NPCs to make things different. It is an awesome game as with most things you get back what you put in.
TBH i expect nothing but BS from CIG. So far it is surprisingly nice to see they working stuff and getting it released. On the other hand i was hoping formore serversided and performance oriented stuff happening. So far for me its a total letdown from CIG. These updates are a pass for. I come back if itruns more stable.
I know it's "unrealistic", but I liked having no maps to the ships. A player had to be personally familiar with them to know their way around. With fps maps of the ships available, that takes away from that game play element. A player being more familiar with the layout of ships, ship controls, and engineering elements rather than having them on a map was cool to me on a player skill level. Hopefully they make these maps harder to attain to whatever extent. Suggestions: 1. Maps had to be downloaded from the ships or locations. 2. If maps were purchased, they take up limited map data storage space. 3. Maps are regularly jammed to enemy players by an item or ship component.
Still taking a break from playing until the new hornet isn’t blatantly over tuned and until they add modules for the retaliator into the universe and not have them be cash shop exclusive features. Made all of my favorite ships effectively useless so why play? Nothing can dogfight the hornet and win against a decent pilot and the retaliator now has no torpedoes unless you purchase the ship from the store or buy the modules from the store for a ship you purchased in game. At this point I don’t even care about 4.0 if they do stuff like this. Horrible practices.
Oh it's really simple : since the 3.24 and the addition of the Master modes, i don't play the game anymore and i don't want to play the game anymore. For me it ruined all the feeling of space flight (and fights), and i didn't pledge this game earlier for this shitty flight model. If CIG don't step back on this side, i seriously consider selling my ships on the grey market, and it's actually very sad. All the rest is very good, but it still need some polish (obviously, it's still an alfa).
Master modes isnt that bad, less jousting and the shield issue people were complaining about is fixed, plus it makes be feel cool using power traingle shortcuts to get the shields up faster too
@@kleim3139 People who defend the new MM always use the same logic : "if you don't like MM, you must be a griefer who abuse the system" What a sophism... I'm just a mostly pacific player who enjoy trade, i do some bounty hunting for fun occasionally, and i don't like pvp. And with this MM, i don't want to fight either bots or players. MM doesn't only affect fighting ships you know...
I think they're doing alright, I guess majority of the talent is working on SQ42 polishing so we're going to just see a trickle of features that is applicable to the SCverse come through.
After 3.18 everything has been an improvement. Lots of qol improvements. The map is great, I like master modes and now feel I can sometimes compete in pvp. The dlss and similar tech is next to useless. I just wish they would sort out all the very old bugs that plague the game still. New stuff is only great if it works.
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Saltemike u gonna react to morp vid about the inventory?
I’d love a check off list of everything Jared promised for 2024.. A visual checklist to see. Everything that made it in the PU and everything that didn’t.
Space Tomato did this a couple weeks ago
@@jacksonbrown6199 oh really I ought to check that out thanks!!
I have not logged in except to look at new character customizer. I am waiting for the cargo patch.
Good choice, it's been a waste of my time for sure. I've since quit playing as well
I'm waiting some rep to grind!
Their ability to get 3.24 at not-a-dumpster fire status by, say, September will be a major bellwether for their success moving forward.
Same tbh
@@rolinthor Sounds Good to me.
Agree with your takes on all of this. Hopefully we get 4.0 before CitizenCon. I still have a feeling that we'll get a, "Feature X doesn't work for Server Meshing and we need to develop Feature Y so Server Meshing works" thing.
Also have a feeling CitizenCon is gonna be a, "Check out this 45 minute video of what we want 1.0 to look like" and everyone will lose their sh*t and forget this is what CIG do EVERY CitizenCon and then completely fail to deliver. Just like the pre-rendered sand worm, the Lorville creatures from 2017, Pyro in 2020, SQ42 in 2018 and I could go on and on and on and on.
It feels like another year, to me. 3.23 had some good stuff but was marred by the patch disintegrating after about 2-3 weeks. Cargo is still missing and doesn't feel close, with how the very limited evo tests have been; overall it feels like they've hit a bit of a brick wall with development pretty much the second 3.23 dropped. 4.0 is nowhere to be seen and we're throwing new 3.x patches in front of it again. Meshing tests have resumed but are running on 3.22 builds and felt less like a meaningful step forward and more like the networking/deployment teams spinning their wheels waiting on a viable cargo build. The progress tracker situation is a meme at this point, and it seems increasingly likely that 4.0 slips to next year for the 5th year running.
It's definitely the most Star Citizen year yet. It doesn't feel like a 'watershed year,' and it feels like their confidence and swagger going into it was mostly unwarranted. Still living in the unfortunate reality that whatever targets they set for themselves they just cannot deliver. And then they blame us for the expectations they set, get pissy at us for asking where tf stuff is.
Couldn't agree with you more!
I don't get this issue with server meshing. Just add regular static server meshing to each planet for now. Nobody wants to play on 5 tick servers
Its what happens when liars get caught up in their own lies. Blame somebody else while lieing some more.
they have partnered with monster tech on gaming chairs so now its official... star citizen has everything but interesting gameplay in 2024
Nothing counts until it’s functional and IN the Persistent Universe, imo
True for those who mainly care about the final game. But for those who also care about the development itself, everything counts.
Even in PU sometimes its just unfunctional...
Seems no matter what they do , how much they come up short, when they announce they are working on something new, all is forgiven, until the ppl get dissapointed again.
@@jaykay5838 people love to find reasons to complain. play the game and have fun like I have for 10 years. cause when it releases and they introduce their release mechanics, people really WILL complain. things like:
- death of a spaceman
- ship insurance
- and even popularity of the game bringing in toxic players from other games will ruin it all. count your blessings and enjoy the game now, while it's still fun.
@@btr003 "while it's still fun" , man that's ominous.
It is kind of funny that most of us kind of dismissed the quantum travel pathing bugs and such knowing that CIG was redoing the map. Like "I get it why would they work on these issues when the whole system is being redone in the "soon tm" future"... The only catch is most of the underlying functions where remaining the same
Well after the very cool Citcon trailer with the 30 minute spline, I was hoping to get most of the features this year, and I thought that by now Pyro would be a thing. But despite all the effort from CIG devs, it feels like we only got the fluff without the meat. Yes, water physics and cloud tech are nice, but where is the gameplay? Where are the actual improvements to the star map? The new UI is good, yes, but why has it all the same QT bugs, why is selecting stuff and zooming so clunky? I actually like the new interaction system, but why is it not everywhere? It feels like we have two overlapping systems right now, that don't play well together. I totally agree, overall progress is very dissapointing. The only teams that are actually delivering are the art and graphics teams.
The QT bugs are the same they always have been since the whole QT system is getting replaced in 4.0. People are acting like the year is over already.
These last couple years have been rough, and I'm sensing that it is all falling apart, not falling together.
Really feeling like it's 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
just finish the fucking game holy shit. 10 years of development.....
The quality of life improvements look great but i have just gotten too jaded and disconnected. I’m starting to turn into one of those backers who says, “Wake me up when it’s done” and I didn’t think i’d get here.
I would expect several public server mesh tests after 3.24 drops to live, which will most likely be mid July. Q3 will start in 2 more days, so yeah after 3.24 I expect several mesh tests before they start testing 4.0 with evo
They use 'kiosks' (item banks) for inventory simply because they couldn't fix the 'open inventory' (virtual inventory) so now you just move some few items from the kiosk to the drawer and then have it available in local inventory and you put them on you (if i understand correctly, im not and evocati) reducing impact on the storage backend, it's in a way a white flag. Having said that if it works better and if they add a search and i can stack anything (can you stack armour or weapons or pyro tool now?!) later on im fine with it.
All things considered there are priorities like server meshing which undoubtly is but i don't consider physicalized inventory a priority over like filling the beautiful worlds of even Stanton with 'life' and a 'soul'. Give me missions from random NPCs... Last time i was in Finn's Folly collecting some packages (then ofc placing the packages on invisible shelves of a distribution center didn't work so mission couldn't be finished... still don't know why they continue to force you put packages on shelves [even visible ones :)] which often DOES NOT WORK while lockers worked 100% for me and i could always finish these package mission) i wish some NPCs would ask me to do something for them like even a good transport mission where the NPC wants to go to Everus and i fly it on my ship! Give me city missions to give beautiful cities a meaning! Give me random stuff on planets, random creatures attacking me (not only, or almost, by choosing a fucking mission), plants to carve things from, food, water, let me cut rocks with the cutter (i would be happy even if the rocks would remain visually the same). Why can't we talk with NPCs (only basic stupid stuff from some NPCs) ? It would NOT hog the server because dialog is not really realtime, give NPCs a lore, give me a mission in Lorville to find someone and i ask NPCs if they have seen him/her.. FFS put the citizen in Star Citizen!... OK im dreaming, back to bed :(
I haven't been involved that long, playing since 3.12. I've been sitting things out for a while, not happy with master modes and concerned about the inventory changes coming as well. I'm not a PVP'er so that doesn't factor in, they just add a lot of needless time and complexity to getting just about anything done and it already takes a good bit of time to prep even without these changes.
The main problem with the game at the moment is the split between sim/survival elements and arcade elements. Logistics, cargo, hygiene, travel times and so on are in depth and time consuming. Master Modes and FPS combat with killmarkers is taken straight out of popular console titles. The two things just don't gel at all in my opinion, and as someone who wants the game to lean more to the sim side I find the flight model offputting enough that I have barely played since 3.23 dropped. Same goes for FPS combat, I haven't died a single time to anything other than desync during the past two patches, it is just pure run & gun gameplay now.
Try doing an MRT with Master Modes in a light fighter.
You can't.
The pre-3.23 flight model was super arcadey, as a Gladius or Arrow could take down fleets of corvettes. Not anymore; not with Master Modes.
I very much agree with you man. The game needs to decide where it lands on the hardcore -> casual spectrum and then build out all of their mechanics around that decision.
Having some aspects be fully hardcore while others are super arcadey at the moment makes the game feel amateurish and slapped together, while also reducing the cohesiveness of the world.
@@Billy-bc8pk precisely, the skill ceiling was amazingly high and small craft had considerable cross section advantages due to the range... now we have this.
@@Eroamagorath Opposite way around. Skill ceiling was incredibly low, since evryone could just fly at top speeds, avoid fire, and every small craft (even an M50) could take down an 890J or Carrack solo. Now you get absolutely wiped trying to take them on, as it should be. It now requires actual skill instead of exploiting the desync-reliant speed caps from the pre-3.23 era.
As a newcomer that started shortly before citizencon my biggest issue is content and performance. I’ve always been a very patient person when it comes to bugs/performance etc. but this game really knows how to push you lol. They have a massive amount of devs working on this game yet it feels like they hardly make any progress.
I bought tickets to citizencon and I'm so unimpressed with CIGs delivery of their promises from last citizencon that I'm no longer willing to make the trip. My wife and I were really excited last year, but seeing how little of what they said at citizencon was real just makes the whole thing seem empty.
I really wish these tickets were meltable.
Same old story CIG marketing writing checks that CIG devs can’t cash. It’s not the devs’ fault; it’s the Robertses.
@@rolinthor if American courts were a functional branch of our government this project would already have been ended forcibly.
@@RainOfFodderco brother, it's not even an American company for 1. For 2, they do not meet the requirements for a scam or misleading the consumer to a point they could be forced to shut down. Has nothing to do with the American court system. If you're that mad about 45 dollars, you want 1000s of people to lose their jobs and way to feed, house, and cloth their families, you need bigger problems
So, you're blaming someone else for your own stupid financial decisions? Funny...
Surely you own an Avenger Titan dude? That ship was supposed to be modular before we started getting variants.
I hate the titan haha, think it’s ugly
Mini map needs a toggle on off key
It is going so well, I am about a year and a half since I last logged in to do anything more than see if the game was functional on my computer.
Nice punt…I always thought report cards had grades. You failed to give them a grade, it’s ok we know
My take:
I don’t like MM, but I think I could live with. It doesn’t seem like ships are unique, though. Calling MM a QOL change seems like they don’t understand what QOL means (how can making it more complicated better from a QOL POV?)
The other changes to ship combat kind of suck, honestly. Multiple PiPs due to changes in weapon speed suck. If CIG wants that, it should be more apparent which PiP is which.
Quantum markers suck. The star map is better, but you’re kind of forced to use it.
The UI while flying is cluttered.
Mobi glass change is good, but why is it blurry?
I don’t like that my ship components are essentially trapped. Why make it physical without a way to move it?
Worst change - the lag, the horrible, horrible lag. (Must say that with an Invader Zim voice, btw)
You should cover Chris pitching Star Citizen to China.
Curious what promises he made to them.
Can they actually ever fix the AI? I mean the reason for this is cause the servers are too bogged down but there is just going to be more and more added so how can this ever get better?
Server meshing in tandem with spending more on servers is the answer. If they have less going on in a single server because they have more servers running concurrently and everything is distributed across servers it should help significantly. That and I'm pretty sure years ago they stated that they were avoiding doing too much fine tuning optimization to the netcode until server meshing was in as such a drastic change would undo a lot of that work, so they maybe have some extra performance they can squeeze out of the servers once they finally lock down the backend architecture.
So can they? In theory yes, in practice we'll see. Eventually.
Server meshing should help. Right now AI performance is directly correlated with server fps. More servers = higher server fps = better AI performance.
@@wenerjy Seems to me that this game will be very very expensive to run for CiG if it ever comes out. They are already talking about multiple server per system and I doubt that will be enough to be fair. So every system needs five or six servers times the amount of systems times the amount of times you need to have different instances since they wont be able to fit every player in one system.
@@bartasbxx Yes, that's the plan.
Is a colorblind player, I REALLY hope the change in ship UI allows for possible custom colors. Even if just for targeting that can be set for all ships. Like a bright green or orange highlight for targets instead of the red would help me quite a bit. Also, a brightness and opacity slider for all the holograms would be amazing. I mean, my 30+ year old car has the ability to adjust the brightness of the dash, why can't my super futuristic spaceship. Also, on the fly opacity adjustments for things like mobiglass would make a huge difference in visibility when needed.
i've been a bit overly critical of development lately, hopefully not too much, but mostly because of the amount of stuff being released in rapid fire. the fear is that the iteration process is going to suffer, as it will be a case of put out something and move to the next thing.
the inventory and interaction system did seem rushed. because everything is on "F" you end up getting weird conflicts. like when trying to use inner thought to throw out a can with anything else in sight, and the interaction wheel pops up on the other object. also the 2 main weapon limit (no hands allowed), and physical item looting appears to be altogether lost, because people were mashing "F" on bodies and picking up items instead of loot screen. there are substantially better solutions than removing features.
imo, and have made posts about it, they should just shift anything relating to inventory to "i", and leave "F" for interaction and inner thought. maybe with right click interaction wheel. post was about Augmented Reality looting and Inventory "app" that could be toggled on and off, and could just be active as players moved. kind of like Fallout 76, except good, because there is actual plausible irl tech and lore to back it up and style it like a mobi app.
Love your videos man, you keep it optimistic but realistic. CIG has done a lot this year, and it's been pretty good but we have a long way to go. Keep doing what you do!
Sadly CIGs performance is about what I expected. I event called that there would be a 3.24, maybe a 3.25 patch. And 4.0 and pyro wont make it out this year. And more will get stripped out to make artificial milestones so they can say “we delivered” even though it was a tenth of what they promised.
I'm not happy you need to soft death a ship to steal the cargo because the extra crime stat 2 will give you a crime stat 3. Three crime stat 2 = crime stat 3. I'm not happy that I can't claim a ground vehicle or ship at mining outposts on Hurston. I'm not happy that inventory is broken about 25% of the time. I'm not happy that you can't transfer cargo out of a 2 scu or higher crate unless you log out and then in again. The bugs are just stacking up!
@SaltEMike in last ISC Jared talked about you punching the chair 🤣
Losing full access at anytime to your local inventory is a good thing
How so?
Mike, you say that reloading from backpack works? I use C54 and A03 and it never works for me, but even worse after the character tried to reload from backpack and failed (bullet count still zero) if i put more magazines on the body of the character to reload from there because it actually works it takes sometimes up to six or seven times trying to reload until it works... Maybe it works fine with other weapons?
I like your state of the game wrap up.
Look forward to seeing the next one in six months time.
They need to fix the basic bugs and stop adding features which keep breaking other features... Especically the ui on ultrawide screens has gone so far backwards its vitrually unplayable with some ships...
Is anyone other than the hard core players really playing? I suspect most of us are just waiting, year, after year, after year. And the years are flying by real fast now. What did SaltyEMike say "looks good if you can play it"? I bought a new computer back in 2016 when I first got into Star Citizen and thinking we're nearly there. Obviously I'm going to have to buy a new one now if I want to play SC but a PC capable of running SC smoothly will cost several thousands of dollars. Enthusiasts will spend that, but out of the million odd account holders how many of us can really afford to spend that. Gosh SC looks pretty but it comes at a cost, literally. Only the most modern of PC's are needed to play it, and Chris Roberts has chosen looks over gameplay because looks draws in the customers. Although its academic because without them putting an end to wipes I'm not going to play, and even after all these years they're still wiping everything you've done. Other than these updates I see every now and then I don't even think about SC any more. Often I forget I own a ship.
You might sea of thieves and maybe when you’re bored of pirates sq42 will be out ; the best is use sea of thieves a functioning game to meet find people who like ship crew gameplay and if sc gets easyoly usable bam transfer them over (unless they console )
6 month still no leak of base build system, i'm melting
They said at CitizenCon that were only starting dev on base building early this year. That wasn't expected to come out this year.
@@marvinvargas4988 i know just want a prove they start working instead of shelf it for another tech
New cargo inventory stuff is cool at first but will quickly become tedious and unenjoyable.
SC starts having all the burden of all the game types available: survival (need to eat/drink, weather, etc), fps (equipmemt and ammo), crafting/transport (all the inventory management), economy (buying items at diff places), etc, for NO GOAL, because the mechanics ar not there, still after all thia time
Why you not mention about falling under planet and under floor in cities, missing COMMs when you want to dock to station, weird 'super engine noise' when you are entering to hangar, and then you need to store and retrieve ship again to remove it, Quantum Travel problems, where when you use it, ship automatically goes to opposite direction and you are stuck in QT mode, broken basic missions for new players where after accepting them they are not goes to "Accepted" tab, but money are gone if it is Bounty Hunter mission and other things like this? :)
You forgot randomly exploding ships. :(
@@mdsf01 Yep, and random game crashes every 30 minutes also :D
Hmm, i'd ha e to say they get a grade of C at best.
Its all fine and dandy that they are putting such cool features and ship in the game. But there are a few points which bother me.
1) Why is development so slow? - I get it that the game has a lot in it but they have a rather large team. Sure i get it that graphics take a while yo code up, and that it can sometimes take a couple of weeks to debug code. But for the size of their team this feels way too slow. I'm wondering if the team has goten so that, the developers are now stepping on each others toes.
2) Misleading information. - How is the ironclad going to help speed up development of the Kraken, why not make it the reverse. Devlop the Kracken first and use its development to speed up development of the Ironclad. I get it that some of the smaller ships can be used as training tools and are of high enough quality that they can be sole when they get to the final stage, with only minor tweaks. Im okay with that. But you can't excuse the ironclad that way. Maybe they shouodnjust stop concept sales until they catch up with existing backlog a bit.
3) Buggy releases. - Seriously, they have shown that they have game testers. Are they even testing 1/4 of what they are releasing? I get that a few will slip though, but why are there so many bugs. Why are we still dealing with bugs which are years old.
4) Confusing bug reporting/feature requests. - This is of high importance. Yet new players still are confused about it. How many ways are there to report a bug, heck i've been told to put feature requests on spectrum. Anyone have any clue where on spectrum?
5) Listening/catering to the 1%. - This is a developer sin. And CIG is more than guilty of it at many levels. Oh there is a PVP ship which has a bug, takes them less than a week to fix. But there is a major bug with box missions, still there years later. A1, Salty, and a few others opinions should be treated as the exceptions until ehough data is gathered to prove that their gripes are truely community concerns. But their concerns are good data starting points.
6) Mis-advertising. - This is true for many ships both pre and post MM. Probably the most recent examples are the new MKII hornets, and the San'tok.yai. Does anyone want to argue that the San'tok.yai stands a chance againt a hornet, any hornet? And the MKII's are suposed to be the superior/improved hornets, i get that the improvements done need to be huge, but they are suposed to be improvements. And don't get me wrong I'm not saying that this is how that the ships should always be the superior because advertising says they are. What im saying is that the ships should at least be capable of what they are advertized for.
7) Getting upset at data miners for CIG's faults. - The title says everything. I don't think i need more detail here.
But I would appreciate some insight into the thought processes of what they consider balanced. Seriously, what is the point of missles in the current state of the game? And did their balance pass really do anything?
There are a lot of things i wish i could change with sc development but the game itself i just have a few major gripes
Tbh for me it feels like a repeat of the 3.17 to 3.18 cycle. 3.23 had almost no actual content, only qol stuff, the cargo part is delayed, pyro is extremely likely going to be delayed too and once it releases at the end of q1 next year, server meshing will blow up in their face, just like what happened with pes in 3.18. It's just business as usual.
Basically feels like a single player game at the moment MMO=2.3 PVE= 8.8 PVP=1.3
very generous ... It's when it's working you mean ?
This “push to 1.0” leaves me with a bad feeling. They seem to be now on a dash to push anything out to call it complete. It seems that investor deadline is most likely the cause. I have little faith in the project anymore.
I don't think 'investors' are the reason for the push to 1.0. My belief is that CIG wants SC 1.0 to be available when SQ 42 releases. CIG wants that 'While you wait for SQ42 Chapters to come, play SC' promotion.
@@childe57Investor pressure isn’t the be-all, end-all factor, but it’s important. News of one of the major investors cashing out would create cash flow issues that would be relatively small in themselves but would send a big bad signal to backers that might cut into their ship-buying enthusiasm.
"Push to 1.0" sounds a lot like "Road to Pyro"
damn after getting called out by jared salty mike broke out the report card lol
Love the videos man, you doing true work out here
Lane sponsoring a Star Citizen channel is one of the most unexpected things I have seen here
Star Citizen has been in development since half 2012 😂
bootdev! what a great way to teach coding! Great video also Mike!
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I had low expectations.
I fully expected delays too, but this long?
It's pathetic, and the groups I play with feel the same.
I'm sure "3.24" will be okay, but it isn't enough to excuse to poor performance and execution overall.
mobiglass is i think my favorite thing so far, especially after having to go back to the old build for the tech preview. it was unbearable
Comapred to the laundry list of things that were presented as coming 'in the coming year' at citizencon 2023 they're falling short and the larger the feature the shorter they are falling. In a game where they formally confirmed they were still shooting for 100 star systems at launch in late 2017 they haven't even released the 2nd system in 2024 (nor arguably completed the first system as they keep fiddling with it). Meanwhile their ship backlog isn't getting better and they are nowhere near releasing modularity as they have ONE SHIP with modularity slipshodded in.
CIG just NEEDS TO FIX THEIR NETCODE!
It's a slowly progressing tech demo that I try not to think about since I've invested so much into this slowly progressing tech demo. I'm not throwing good money after bad by spending any time on it. EDIT: typo
I’m starting to feel the same, I want to love it as I’ve invested a lot but more and more I’m starting to hate it especially all the time syncs that takes away from fun gameplay
I think they’ve done a decent job this year at least compared to 3.18. I think there are things they could obviously work on but it’s not an easy task, anyone can be a desk warrior.
All I ask for is content and smooth experiences but if something is delayed I’d rather have it delayed and enter the game in a decent state. Master Modes are great imo, want to see it get fleshed out more though obviously it’s not perfect. Loving the new missions too and distribution centers.
On the contrary, 3.18 was a patch that actually delivered vitally important tech (albeit in dumpster fire form). 3.23 gave us only the rep layer split, which was important but nowhere near as big a feature as PES. The vast majority of what we’ve had this year is cosmetic-and it ain’t that good!
@@rolinthor You need looks and performance.
A decent job this YEAR? You do realise what you're saying? An entire year's worth of 'work' for the current dogshit that's released? Hahaha!
The unfortunate thing is, despite the unending persistence of this narrative, 'delayed' doesn't ever actually mean 'enters in a decent state.' The reality we actually get is "late and still broken and underdelivered." Every time.
@@nosir5596 Just to clarify: I agree with you 100%. In fact, I’m not sure there’s a single feature in game that is in a ready-to-ship state.
backpack reloading never works for me, i do the anim, i heard the sound but still no bullet in the gun... 😢in general i think 3.23 as lot of broken thing (also lot of random explosion, remind me 3.18) and i'm a little piss off because cig said the restructuration of team with sq42 dev will speed up the developement and the result 8month later : lot of feature of q1 patch moving and form q3 patch... but what about feature of q2 patch ? i never heard of that,it's seems they didn't even plan that (we know they planned 4.0 late 2024 since sometime) anyways i understand the need for money but i'm sick of the marketting team and the false promise just for the ship sales
i dont like the new inventory preparing now will at least take 3hrs not 30min-1hr anymore
I think they would have an amazing report card... If thry hadn't been so over competent about the consequences of sq42 going feature complete.... Dont have a lot of faith that game is near done yet... Also dont really believe everyone has moved over - seems some features are movin other direction
WTF i have never seen you so calm since i first watched you here i like to see that side of you more often... though i know it can be hard on someting like SC ^^
Mastermodes would be fine for me if I could run away from combat, that's my issue with it.
You flying interceptors ? like bucc titan 325 they can get away from combat (depends on numbers and wt snare but generally away)
I haven't been able to log into the ptu without a crash on launch for the last week
I've been playing everyday for the last week and haven't had one hard crash. Upgrade your PC bro.
@@Redpillroost3r thats not it. i have a killer CPU. i think i just had to update my windows? idfk. cause simple restarts didn't really fix it, i had to restart and update windows and then SC worked for me again.
i dont think you even read what i said. "crash on launch" meaning i never even woke up in the PTU. happening when there wasn't an update to cause any changes to the game i had been playing for years.
The game just feels so pointless since there’s no settlements
You Know I have ever been to these new distribution centres ever. or rivers caves.
tomorrow is the first day of Q3 and we're suppose to get 4.0 in Q3????? LoL
It’s not been a great year, I think the new game director has injected ambition and momentum that was much needed. There’s a lot to feel positive about, but also the performance of the PU has been increasingly poor and degraded. It feels fairly unplayable right now, and the new inventory kiosks are horrible UX.
Imagine by John Lennon
Imagine 3.23 content was worked on already for years since much of the content was moved over from SQ42 and it's soo broken..imagine...
Imagine the official news from CIG stating SQ42 devs moved over to SC and the development was supposed to boost..imagine...
Imagine we are now half year in and we still haven't got the content for Q1 that was promised, things missing like player hangars item banks etc...imagine
Imagine CIG actually giving a fck and delivering on promises...imagine
Imagine SC actually becoming a game and not a cashgrab storefront money grab...imagine
Imagine...cuz that's the only thing you will be doing with SC IMAGINE :))
I would say it's exceeded my expectations. But then again, my expectations were pretty low to begin with, because I know we've seen this movie a thousand times already.
If 4.0 actually comes out before IAE, and it's not 3.18 levels of unplayable, I'll be surprised!
Losing useful features we've all gotten used to in a game without having them replaced with something better is never a good thing. Hopefully CIG listen to players' feedback and correct the mistakes.
My wallet is closed until this Tedium Timesink Trash project has something interesting to show off
I had a lot of fun during the ODI mission chain, but haven't played that much after. I'm mostly waiting on the cargo update and the hauling missions, also I'm hoping that the hauling missions will be integrated into the economy (for weapon cargo missions to spawn, they'll have to be manufactured, which require parts to be made, which requires resources, which requires raw materials and so on, I'm hoping on these kinds of steps for pretty much everything so everything will feel more alive and to have it make sense)
I couldn’t even even play the game last night because the servers were literally frozen. $700 million dollars and it doesn’t even work lol
2024 is already the greatest year in history, and it's only going to get better as Server Mashing comes online and everything we were promised (and more) is delivered.
Do you get a mining tool in mining prison yet? That's the big update I'm waiting for!
Look, I get the endless frustration about CIG and they're painfully slow development, but complaining about the progress "this year" not meeting expectations feels extremely premature. We've only had the first quarter patch, everybody. The Q2 patch is around the corner. Maybe wait until at least the Q3 patch before deciding how the 2024 expectations are going? Were people expecting everything shown at citizen con to show up in the first Q1 patch??
The Q2 patch is the meat of the first patch they didn’t deliver on…what is this cope. They set their goals, they failed to achieve them. Any other explanation simply isn’t fact.
@@SaltEMike Yes, cargo was delayed. That sucks. But it's coming in Q2 instead of Q1. Not great but not a catastrophe. Besides delayed cargo, we're pretty much on track, no?
Still only a single star system after 13yr. Major disappointment, esp after the early roadmaps (3.3, 3.4, etc) and their efforts at building procedural tools seemed to indicate that the pace of production on planets/systems/landing-zones would increase. Currently, 10 star systems hardly feels achievable, much less the 50+ systems that many of us hoped and dreamed about. At this rate, I am guessing it’ll “release” with 5, and then add a couple every 2 years, like an expansion pack of other mmo’s. Not exactly the galaxy-spanning Freelancer-like experience.
well, it's behind on scheduled releases, so I'd say it has exceeded my expectations.
It met my expectations 100%, of being a scam 👍
I uninstalled sc for the first time in 4 years two weeks ago. Couldnt deal with the terrible performance anymore and constant let downs. Hopefully ill be here in great health and spirits for when the game masssively improves ( eta ??? ).
I think CI have been working hard and have had some big successes this year. On the bad side though, I don't think they are where they planned to be as we hit the midway point in the calendar year and I'm not sure if they will be able to catch up given that we're heading into summer vacation season. Will we get to Pyro this year? Maybe; having it by October is becoming more and more unlikely though. If we get it I guess it will happen at the very end of the year with a kamikaze patch that technically puts it in but will need several .x patches in the new year to somewhat stabilize it. As for CitizenCon this October, all I'm expecting is a S42 release date announcement, nothing more.
We need a lot more features and updates! Its all tech but i dont care, i want more gameplay and have said so for years! Oh, and fix the old broken ass ships CiG!
i agree i feel its the same game loop over an over nothing new really so disapointet is the right word.
I just can’t wait to the missiles on my 325a again 😢
I was expecting your next sponsor to be chairs! .. what a disappointment
It’s much more stable, making my cargo hauling exploits legendary. Not looking forward to loading cargo however. I don’t see the need. It’s a game, not real life Chris!
I said before that ln 2022 cig was crawling. But in 2023, cig was starting to walk. Now, they do seem to have their feet under them. There is a lot to be desired, but it's also unmistakable that they are making progress at a decent pace with a lot of things. Now may not be the best time to jump into star citizen if you are new. But it's definitely worth paying attention to in the coming year. And I suspect a lot of stuff is going to be added to the game I the next couple years. Especially compared to the previous 10 years.
I've honestly lost all interest in SC at this point.
System working as intended. As we approach 1.0 the wheat has to be separated from the chaff so we can launch 1.0 with a player base wanting to be here.
Yet still watching UA-cam videos on it.
I'm probably the same to be fair. I've not played it in about 4 years. But keep an eye on how it's going.
I've basically said I'm out until server meshing actually in and fully working. Until server meshing in it's not a MMO. It's still the make or break tech for the project.
It's nice to see it finally start progressing though.
@@davescott7680 there’s a small part in me that still holds some hope. I’ve certainly put in enough money to justify checking once in a while.
@@eddyrocksteady1157 Enjoy playing by yourself if this keeps up.
Ok… why are you here then?
Most games and companies would have quit and walked away long before this. While it is frustrating at times what they have accomplished from ground zero. Building the tools, the universe and the lore.
The lore is something you should spend time listening to and investigating. It really changes how you play and makes you far more vested.
I spent 5000 hours in elite dangerous. I learned about the lore and worked with the NPCs to make things different. It is an awesome game as with most things you get back what you put in.
4.0 as in we will play on 4.0 server FPS
TBH i expect nothing but BS from CIG. So far it is surprisingly nice to see they working stuff and getting it released. On the other hand i was hoping formore serversided and performance oriented stuff happening. So far for me its a total letdown from CIG. These updates are a pass for. I come back if itruns more stable.
I’m waiting til it’s actually a game.. hopefully they get rid of their mission design.. and make it more immersive
Dlss has been great for me
It does literally nada for me ( 4090m ). Nothing. In any of the renderers.
@@positronikiss it wouldnt you are probably more cpu bound
It was a crap patch and it isn’t even fully delivered. This is one time you actually need to be salty.
I know it's "unrealistic", but I liked having no maps to the ships. A player had to be personally familiar with them to know their way around. With fps maps of the ships available, that takes away from that game play element.
A player being more familiar with the layout of ships, ship controls, and engineering elements rather than having them on a map was cool to me on a player skill level.
Hopefully they make these maps harder to attain to whatever extent.
Suggestions:
1. Maps had to be downloaded from the ships or locations.
2. If maps were purchased, they take up limited map data storage space.
3. Maps are regularly jammed to enemy players by an item or ship component.
Badly
Tbh all fps items should just stay in the current inventory system
Still taking a break from playing until the new hornet isn’t blatantly over tuned and until they add modules for the retaliator into the universe and not have them be cash shop exclusive features.
Made all of my favorite ships effectively useless so why play?
Nothing can dogfight the hornet and win against a decent pilot and the retaliator now has no torpedoes unless you purchase the ship from the store or buy the modules from the store for a ship you purchased in game.
At this point I don’t even care about 4.0 if they do stuff like this.
Horrible practices.
Oh it's really simple : since the 3.24 and the addition of the Master modes, i don't play the game anymore and i don't want to play the game anymore.
For me it ruined all the feeling of space flight (and fights), and i didn't pledge this game earlier for this shitty flight model.
If CIG don't step back on this side, i seriously consider selling my ships on the grey market, and it's actually very sad.
All the rest is very good, but it still need some polish (obviously, it's still an alfa).
I’ve been looking into doing so, this last patch hurt and the next looks to do more
Sounds like someone can´t abuse the same mechanic in their light fighter anymore to beat every single other ship in the game.
@@kleim3139I don’t PvP usually, and I don’t enjoy flying as much anymore. It’s not just the PvP crowd that dislikes the new flight model.
Master modes isnt that bad, less jousting and the shield issue people were complaining about is fixed, plus it makes be feel cool using power traingle shortcuts to get the shields up faster too
@@kleim3139 People who defend the new MM always use the same logic : "if you don't like MM, you must be a griefer who abuse the system"
What a sophism...
I'm just a mostly pacific player who enjoy trade, i do some bounty hunting for fun occasionally, and i don't like pvp.
And with this MM, i don't want to fight either bots or players.
MM doesn't only affect fighting ships you know...
14 years. 14.
I think they're doing alright, I guess majority of the talent is working on SQ42 polishing so we're going to just see a trickle of features that is applicable to the SCverse come through.
After 3.18 everything has been an improvement. Lots of qol improvements. The map is great, I like master modes and now feel I can sometimes compete in pvp. The dlss and similar tech is next to useless. I just wish they would sort out all the very old bugs that plague the game still.
New stuff is only great if it works.