I was a freshman in high school in Michigan when Tom Brady was at the University of Michigan battling against Drew Henson to be the starting QB. Drew Henson was a michigan kid, and his mother was my teacher. I remember telling his mom respectfully that Tom Brady is going to be the greatest QB ever. I liked Drew and still do, but rushing him as a freshman hurt his career and growth. But Tom Brady going through that and having to COME OFF THE BENCH and not being jealous or vengeful and always bringing his team back to win showed his humility and greatness. 99% of people wouldn't have been willing to go in there save the team and win the game just to have the coach put you back on the bench week after week. It was unbelievable to watch, and i was very lucky as a kid to have Tom Brady and Charles Woodson on michigan and Lloyd Carr as head coach. GO BLUE!
For decades, the fans who love Tom have been trying to say that he is special. The GOAT, not the LOAT. This season, he has the longest pass, the fastest pass, the most passes, the most long passes, the most completions, the most yards, the 2nd quickest time to pass, and he also recorded his fastest top speed of the NGS era with 16.36. And then there is everything else he is doing at a singularly elite level.
and couldn’t win with the help of the referee from calling bullshit offense calls for the rams to let the clock run out. Lmao 😂 this and the their Super Bowl against Atlanta felt like wwe match not a football game.
I don’t know what is more incredible, the number of Super Bowl wins, or the sustained, consecutive winning seasons over his career. It makes one wonder if TB12 could have won more under a different coach. But have to give Bill credit for sticking with Tom when Drew recovered from his injury.
i think it's going to be obvious at the end of this year that brady could've won anywhere. however bill does deserve a lot of credit for the wins as well
I’m a raider fan and hated TB12 for a long time… then I learned to appreciate him lol… To go to Tampa Bay and win his 7th ring in his first year there was insane but it’s just a goat doing goat things
Lifelong New England native born and raised. Had the privilege to have Tom as my QB for 20 years. You never really felt like you were out of a game as long as he was in the game.
this why i say brady is really the goat, just look who he faced against LBs, DEs, CBs the list goes on. some top tier players that are HOFs as well. to think and understand what to do in split second plays are incredible.
Everyone can now see Tom Brady was the reason the Patriots won consecutively Not Bill Belichick its clear The Master Chess Piece & his drive competitive streak had the team Amped Let's Go!!
It’s always the players. Whenever you have a great player or a great roster and also a great coaching staff the players are always the difference makers more than the coaches. The players are the ones who execute.
I’m not trying to be “biased” because I’m literally one of the BIGGEST Tom Brady fans anyone will ever meet but Brady should have EASILY been a “First Round” draft pick because of what he did at Michigan bringing them back to win games multiple times when down by multiple scores which is EXACTLY what a “First Round” draft pick is supposed to be and for all 32 teams to allow him to fall to the “Sixth Round” at pick 199 will ALWAYS be an insult to Tom.
I have to give credit to TB12 though because he did come out and say that Bill Belechick taught him a lot about being a good quarterback in the NFL. So, I still give props to Bill but yep TB12 is the X-Factor when it comes to execution!!
It was both. I don’t think Tom develops into the QB he did without Bill pushing him in practice, teaching him defenses (whom Bill is a master at) and working with him every day. At the same time, Brady’s work ethic couldn’t be matched. He studied and studied and studied, worked on his arm, and he was fueled on doubters. Like to a point where he wasn’t gonna stop until they’re proven wrong. I think that’s what makes a GOAT.
Bob Grier was a class act & was literally fired 2 weeks after TB12 was drafted. "BB thought his' contract made clear HE was the only person that had say." from the "Patriot Ledger" circa 2000.
It will always be the player who moves the needle the most. But having Belichick is the ultimate ceiling raiser because he helps his teams win games on the margins when everything isn’t going well.
Yall act like Tom went to a sorry team. The record would say that but you replace INt Winston with Tom and you bring Gronk, AB and Fournette… yall gotta stop acting like Brady went to the jets or giants and brought them a Super Bowl. Still impressive but yall doing too much
Incorrect , y’all forget Tampa already was top 5 in defense, Godwin and evans were already top 10 receivers, they just had Winston , plus Brady brought gronk, four eye and Antonio brown, a qb is more than likely the most essential piece to a team , if New England had gotten like rodgers or Wilson and didn’t even go to conference then I would agree Tom was the master chess piece , but anybody that’s watched football for decades knows finding a good qb is not as easy as it sounds
Now that he’s gone, everybody talks about how much they miss watching him play and how great he was. When he was playing, people hated him and were sick of him. We’re watching greatness on real time with Patrick Mahomes right now, and everyone is starting to hate him and get sick of him. They’ll complain about him and vilify him until he retires, then talk about how much they miss him. It’s a cycle
That argument was settled last year. Bill is a brilliant defense coach but he is not a great head coach. The evidence is exposed for all to see. Do the math, it isn't hard to do. Without Tom, Bill has a win loss percentage of 40 and 60. I will never agree that Bill was the Patriot way, it's always been Tom.
Why oh WHY didn't the Pats manipulate the cap like everyone else, and surround Tom with more talent until he retired? They let the team around him fade. He showed what he could still to with talent in Tampa. Smh. It fell apart because of pride. How stupid.
Belichik is one of the greatest if not the greatest defensive coach ever. He's never been a good offensive coach and most pats OCs have later failed after leaving Brady. This juts illustrates how ridiculously good Brady was
Which year did tom pick who they drafted? Which year did tom decide who had to be cut and who was needed at the very back end of the roster? Which year did tom send out people to learn the other teams signals? You have ABSOLUTELY ONLY SEEN Tom in extremely good systems. Of course he is a over extraordinary Mentally above all others QB. He picked which second team he went to. He obviously knows what he needs offensively to do what he does. He was more of the SOLE reason they won in Tampa than New England. Bill put the entire system in place. Bill took a nothing Brown's team and got them head in the opposite direction. He wasn't there long enough to fulfill his system but he had already put his system into place. So he did it from scratch. Tom hasn't taken a team from the bottom to the top. He has always started with a solid foundation. Bill doesn't look as sturdy now because he wasn't allowed to trade Tom for many future picks and younger players. Can't say Bill isn't what you thought he was. Bill wasn't allowed to put his plan into action. We will never know what Bill had in-store because the owner refused to let him trade Tom. Bill has made trades and moves that gave him better draft position for three years from just 2 trades. Imagine what he would or could have did with Tom picks at the time he wanted to trade him. No don't imagine it F if and would and could. Because you can't ever know what if. But we know Bill built a system from scratch that worked. He did it twice. Tom has only played with solid foundations from jump. Tom wasn't even the one who put a offensive players on defense or defensive players on offense. Bill was taking the 48 player on his rosters and having them ready to step in and the team didn't miss a beat. What? Oh Tom was developing the entire roster not bill. LMAO ok. D ridin is what I see erbody prefer doing. All the times Tom didn't through enough touch downs. How they win? He didn't play defense. It's a combination of things necessary for a QB to be their absolute best and for a coach to be their absolute best. They both had what was necessary. But only Bill is the one that put absolutely everything in PLACE for them to have what was necessary. I will say I actually think Tom is dam near a coach literally on and off the field. I think if Tom was allowed to be QB and manage everything. He would still win a couple Superbowls. The MF'er so good it's painful to know if you don't play perfect you just go get yo A handed to you and ain't ish you can do.
@@maydayjj and know it wouldn’t have surprised me , seeing the team he was going to and who he was bringing. So ur telling me a team with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, then u add, Brady, gronk, ab and ndamakung suh, you’d be surprised if they won?
I think it's a combination of both coach and Tom, he's doing fine with Mac Jones right now but I don't think anyone's gonna come close about 50 years from now we will still talk about tb12
"Nobody knew Tom would win these many championships" True but you could take a QB #1 overall and still not expect Brady's accomplishments. He's won more SB's than any franchise.
It’s funny how patriots haters said Brady was a system QB now that he left and the pats aren’t as good now it’s Belichick was carried by Brady. Can’t take these people serious.
No other team drafted him either. I hate these takes. It’s a quarterback league and it matters where the qb goes bc the wrong team the wrong coach can ruin them. Then we follow that up with give bill no props lmao can’t make this stuff up.
Agree 100%. Also can acknowledge that Revis ain’t the most objective when it comes to judging the pair. Not a secret how much he straight hates Bill lol😂. Must’ve said something about Revis’ momma or something. Can’t just be him clowning Revis for even suggesting that he could prolong his career by switching to safety like Hall at the Skins lol.
People gotta stop discrediting Bill… sure you can say all day that Tom Brady running dat offense but who in hell do you controlled dat defense during those Super Bowl runs… Bill!!!!
Yup… he shown us 0 playoff wins since Brady left…. If you add that to his 0 playoffs wins before Brady, he’s sitting at around 0 playoff wins for his career without Brady… Rex Ryan did more with mark Sanchez than bb has done without Brady 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Winning on the super team buccaneers was not impressive. Especially since they won one game against a playoff team the entire regular season and Brady played awful in the playoffs but got bailed out by his defense constantly
I mean, you still gotta give Tom his credit regardless, if he didn’t play up to his standards, but still, he was the main guy that led that team to the Super Bowl 🤷🏾♂️💯
@@Dre.2397 no he wasn’t. The only playoff game he played pretty well in that Super Bowl run was against the losing record Washington football team. Then he threw like 3 picks in the divisional and championship but got bailed out by his defenses. Then in the Super Bowl only had to make the easiest throws I’ve ever seen while Patrick Mahomes was running for his life because it just so happened that all of his starting offensive linemen were out. Look at the Buccs now. They have a better record and just won the wild card with baker mayfield than last year when they had a worse record and lost in the wild card with Tom brady
Not sure about that. It Brady wins again this year I might see it differently. They were a great pair together . Brady may create another dynasty in Tampa. If he does that nothing would convince me he couldn't of won the 6 himself somewhere else.
@@pamelamichaud994 That is true. But it’s real convenient to be a 20 year vet and coached by a great coach and take all your experience to a young superstar team that’s already set up for success. You implement what you know is affective and get the whole team on the same page and no doubt you’re going to win some championships.
BB was a Master Mind in his own head. This current team has marginal talent at WR, a subpar QB & a questionable OL. Need more proof: N'Keal Harry 👀🤪🤡😵💫
What makes it worse is that despite everything. Bill Belichick still thinks all those Divisional Titles, AFC Titles, and Super Bowls were a result of him 😂 Can't believe he got away with treating Tom like shit for 20 years.....what an Asshole 😂😂😂
Bill has put on some defensive master classes in super bowls. I’ll give Tom Atlanta, and I’ll give Tom credit over all. But never discount bill who built the program, and built Tom up within it. Anywhere else, Tom is good, but he’s not the goat.
They were a match made in heaven. Brady elevated the foundation Bill created. Brady took them to the next level and made the success sustainable. But Brady didn’t create the foundation, let’s make that clear.
@@ifheavenwashuman In other words, Belichick probably wouldn't have been that successful had it not been for Brady being there and becoming the starter. That's why he traded Bledsoe away after they won the Super Bowl. Ppl say Brady was a system QB when in fact he was the system. Some QBs are just built different. Bill may have laid the foundation, but Brady built it up. There wouldn't have been no 6 rings without him.
@darkdante9 bill is still equally important because his defense often times won the chips. It was rare for the pats to play a high scoring superbowl game up until like 2014 and 2016. Even the last pats superbowl score was 13-3. That's the defense securing that chip
Everybody seems to forget that Tom Brady doesn't play defence and the Patriots had a smothering defence early on in Tom's career. My favourite TBs on the Patriots squad was Troy Brown and Tedy Bruschi. Tom Brady was maybe tied for my 3rd favourite TB with Terrell Buckley. 🤣
He’s mad because Belichick let him go. Players always hurt when teams let them go.It takes a good coach to develop a QB into greatness and have good career. Tom Brady said himself Belichick tough him how to be a better QB. He was mostly a Jet so he knows nothing and just want attention. Brady never got to meet the old QB coach so Belichick had to be all hands on with him. Spending weekend going over play books and watch different films. Even his dad said it. It’s crazy how dumb people are and discredit him. He created the team so how tf he didn’t build dynasty??? He is the GM How didn’t he have something to do with wins??? He’s the coach. Look at lakers for EX Stacked Team but no good coach so they are doing bad. I’m black but I’m tired of black athletes making excuses for one another. Cam was trash and they don’t want to admit it.
Without Tom, the Patriots may not have won any superbowls. Then again who knows, they could have been in the position to draft Rodgers, Brees, Eli etc.. instead just a few years later.
Damn I’m gonna miss watching him play.
i already do
He's still on UA-cam!!!
TOM IS THE ONE!!!
yeh i think so
I was a freshman in high school in Michigan when Tom Brady was at the University of Michigan battling against Drew Henson to be the starting QB. Drew Henson was a michigan kid, and his mother was my teacher. I remember telling his mom respectfully that Tom Brady is going to be the greatest QB ever. I liked Drew and still do, but rushing him as a freshman hurt his career and growth. But Tom Brady going through that and having to COME OFF THE BENCH and not being jealous or vengeful and always bringing his team back to win showed his humility and greatness. 99% of people wouldn't have been willing to go in there save the team and win the game just to have the coach put you back on the bench week after week. It was unbelievable to watch, and i was very lucky as a kid to have Tom Brady and Charles Woodson on michigan and Lloyd Carr as head coach. GO BLUE!
“His Goatness”. ❤️🐐😎
yeh baby!!!!
For decades, the fans who love Tom have been trying to say that he is special. The GOAT, not the LOAT. This season, he has the longest pass, the fastest pass, the most passes, the most long passes, the most completions, the most yards, the 2nd quickest time to pass, and he also recorded his fastest top speed of the NGS era with 16.36. And then there is everything else he is doing at a singularly elite level.
darrelle tells it like it is :)
Right
and couldn’t win with the help of the referee from calling bullshit offense calls for the rams to let the clock run out. Lmao 😂 this and the their Super Bowl against Atlanta felt like wwe match not a football game.
@@leogarcia7466 …Not much Tom can do when the defense can’t make a stop against the Rams you fuckin doofus
@@leogarcia7466 grow up you sound like you’re 12
I don’t know what is more incredible, the number of Super Bowl wins, or the sustained, consecutive winning seasons over his career. It makes one wonder if TB12 could have won more under a different coach. But have to give Bill credit for sticking with Tom when Drew recovered from his injury.
i think it's going to be obvious at the end of this year that brady could've won anywhere. however bill does deserve a lot of credit for the wins as well
Ocho and Revis played with him and against him, they know
They sure do
Specially Revis. He had a lot of history with Brady and the fact that he is defense means he played against him directly. Revis praise is huge
Revis island was that missing piece pats needed to win a ring and that year he was signed they won. It was no coincidence
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Him and Browner
@@StarWarsInfinite Browner ate that year man
Lol Revis was average at that point
The Seahawks schooled Revis, then Sherman openly mocked him, and it was browner that directed the kid to cover while jamming the crap out of the play
I’m a raider fan and hated TB12 for a long time… then I learned to appreciate him lol… To go to Tampa Bay and win his 7th ring in his first year there was insane but it’s just a goat doing goat things
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Lifelong New England native born and raised. Had the privilege to have Tom as my QB for 20 years. You never really felt like you were out of a game as long as he was in the game.
Absolutely
Wow!!! What a unique and hot take!!! ThNk you for your service!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
💯thanks for posting!
you're welcome :))
Marshall and Ocho listening to their dad 😂
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If Tom was married to Beyoncé, nobody would say s_it.
they're talking about revis island boy@@richardlau2447
this why i say brady is really the goat, just look who he faced against LBs, DEs, CBs the list goes on. some top tier players that are HOFs as well. to think and understand what to do in split second plays are incredible.
Agree 100%
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Wow an actual video of chad ochocinco and brandon marshall not yelling at eachother
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Goat recognizes goat
Exactly
Everyone can now see Tom Brady was the reason the Patriots won consecutively Not Bill Belichick its clear The Master Chess Piece & his drive competitive streak had the team Amped Let's Go!!
brady covers up a lot of mistakes
@@TBDtribute Its very obvious now & I just scrapped the Year for New England Patriots ✌😂
How can a coach be more valuable than an MVP QB?
Agree mate
TB12 made the Patriots.
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lol right na tb12 did his job the best. So did bill so did the pats owner. 3 goats.
@@ronalddelorme4947 Nah b
It’s always the players. Whenever you have a great player or a great roster and also a great coaching staff the players are always the difference makers more than the coaches. The players are the ones who execute.
Agree mate
Who signs or drafts those players?
I’m not trying to be “biased” because I’m literally one of the BIGGEST Tom Brady fans anyone will ever meet but Brady should have EASILY been a “First Round” draft pick because of what he did at Michigan bringing them back to win games multiple times when down by multiple scores which is EXACTLY what a “First Round” draft pick is supposed to be and for all 32 teams to allow him to fall to the “Sixth Round” at pick 199 will ALWAYS be an insult to Tom.
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It's quite clear Bill is ordinary without Tom.
Hurts to hear that
Brady won at least one superbowl cause of that defense led by belicheck. At least the rams game you just talking
@@tombrady2734 Another ignorant Bill Homer. How did they get in those games and your username is ironic.
Don’t even know what ur talking about
@@Goofygoober227 You are what you're record says. Good luck with your argument though.
You can draw up the plays, but it's Tom who finally decides which player and when they get it. 7 rings is crazy good!!
That's why he's the 🐐
I have to give credit to TB12 though because he did come out and say that Bill Belechick taught him a lot about being a good quarterback in the NFL. So, I still give props to Bill but yep TB12 is the X-Factor when it comes to execution!!
brady is all class. and i think bill did help develop brady a lot too.
Brady says he publicly lies 90 %percent of the time,so don't give Billy a lot of credit..
It was both. I don’t think Tom develops into the QB he did without Bill pushing him in practice, teaching him defenses (whom Bill is a master at) and working with him every day. At the same time, Brady’s work ethic couldn’t be matched. He studied and studied and studied, worked on his arm, and he was fueled on doubters. Like to a point where he wasn’t gonna stop until they’re proven wrong. I think that’s what makes a GOAT.
Well said mate 🙏
The GOAT
Yupppp
Bob Grier was a class act & was literally fired 2 weeks after TB12 was drafted. "BB thought his' contract made clear HE was the only person that had say." from the "Patriot Ledger" circa 2000.
I need to read about Grier. Cheers mate
Brady has seven rings… He has more rings than any NFL team the standalone goat
Crazy right
Three of those Super Bowls are very questionable
Bill has the same or 1 more ring than brady
6th round, 199th overall.
that's right baby!!!
Revis was my favorite football player.
he was very good. definitely hof :))
Brady was a king,a master piece and a chessboard.
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It will always be the player who moves the needle the most. But having Belichick is the ultimate ceiling raiser because he helps his teams win games on the margins when everything isn’t going well.
Bill is a great coach
Darrell played Tom twice a year for a long time. He knows what he's talking about.
That's right 🐐
The Goat DB praising the all time Goat
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Once tom went to tampa and did what he did he was the master piece
that's right
Yall act like Tom went to a sorry team. The record would say that but you replace INt Winston with Tom and you bring Gronk, AB and Fournette… yall gotta stop acting like Brady went to the jets or giants and brought them a Super Bowl. Still impressive but yall doing too much
This coming from a player who used to play for a Patriots' division rival -- the Jets, back when they were a Playoff-capable franchise
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Who's that one dude with the Dreads he looks like a key and peele character. Looks like Keegan with a wig 😂.
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Revis signed up to play with Tom and get some jewelry. Thank you, Darrelle.
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Now that Belichek is gone this is so gratifying to watch
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Belachick brought the defense and special teams. Brady brought the offense.
Smack! 😋😋😋
hahaha
Damn I miss watching him play already
Me too
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Tb12 🐐
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FACTS 💯%
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Incorrect , y’all forget Tampa already was top 5 in defense, Godwin and evans were already top 10 receivers, they just had Winston , plus Brady brought gronk, four eye and Antonio brown, a qb is more than likely the most essential piece to a team , if New England had gotten like rodgers or Wilson and didn’t even go to conference then I would agree Tom was the master chess piece , but anybody that’s watched football for decades knows finding a good qb is not as easy as it sounds
They still needed Brady to win
It's a shame Chad Johnson couldn't learn the playbook when he was with the Patriots, it would have been nice to see him and Brady on the same page.
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this is aging well
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I honor Tom for his achievements
you and me both mate :))) God bless you
He's on the field... duuuuh
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Now that he’s gone, everybody talks about how much they miss watching him play and how great he was. When he was playing, people hated him and were sick of him.
We’re watching greatness on real time with Patrick Mahomes right now, and everyone is starting to hate him and get sick of him. They’ll complain about him and vilify him until he retires, then talk about how much they miss him. It’s a cycle
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There was 1 person that knew.
Revis knows
It was a steal for them to draft him, but Bill had the instincts to keep a 6th rd pick on as a 4th QB. He doesn't get enough credit for that
Dick Rehbein deserves alot of credit too
Tom Brady !!
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Money baby 🐐
Man those first ships go to that defense and kicker
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Ocho was about to cry
ocho loves tom :)))
That argument was settled last year. Bill is a brilliant defense coach but he is not a great head coach. The evidence is exposed for all to see. Do the math, it isn't hard to do. Without Tom, Bill has a win loss percentage of 40 and 60. I will never agree that Bill was the Patriot way, it's always been Tom.
yeh i'm inclined to agree with you there mate.
Ummm no
@@curtisbuissereth8200 Ummm yes look at his record, it speaks for itself.
@@namgreenberet3322 last year doesn’t count half the team opted out they were strapped for cash… look at them this year 90% bill
Shout out to the 6-4 Pats guess he's not a great coach 😂
Why oh WHY didn't the Pats manipulate the cap like everyone else, and surround Tom with more talent until he retired?
They let the team around him fade. He showed what he could still to with talent in Tampa. Smh. It fell apart because of pride. How stupid.
The ONLY pro "scout/exec", that went to Ann Arbour was Bob Grier, a great player personal exec, who was Black & fired cuz BB's ego.
Didn't Dick Rehbein scout Brady?
Belichik is one of the greatest if not the greatest defensive coach ever. He's never been a good offensive coach and most pats OCs have later failed after leaving Brady. This juts illustrates how ridiculously good Brady was
That's a great point
Which year did tom pick who they drafted? Which year did tom decide who had to be cut and who was needed at the very back end of the roster? Which year did tom send out people to learn the other teams signals? You have ABSOLUTELY ONLY SEEN Tom in extremely good systems. Of course he is a over extraordinary Mentally above all others QB. He picked which second team he went to. He obviously knows what he needs offensively to do what he does. He was more of the SOLE reason they won in Tampa than New England. Bill put the entire system in place. Bill took a nothing Brown's team and got them head in the opposite direction. He wasn't there long enough to fulfill his system but he had already put his system into place. So he did it from scratch. Tom hasn't taken a team from the bottom to the top. He has always started with a solid foundation. Bill doesn't look as sturdy now because he wasn't allowed to trade Tom for many future picks and younger players. Can't say Bill isn't what you thought he was. Bill wasn't allowed to put his plan into action. We will never know what Bill had in-store because the owner refused to let him trade Tom. Bill has made trades and moves that gave him better draft position for three years from just 2 trades. Imagine what he would or could have did with Tom picks at the time he wanted to trade him. No don't imagine it F if and would and could. Because you can't ever know what if. But we know Bill built a system from scratch that worked. He did it twice. Tom has only played with solid foundations from jump. Tom wasn't even the one who put a offensive players on defense or defensive players on offense. Bill was taking the 48 player on his rosters and having them ready to step in and the team didn't miss a beat. What? Oh Tom was developing the entire roster not bill. LMAO ok. D ridin is what I see erbody prefer doing. All the times Tom didn't through enough touch downs. How they win? He didn't play defense. It's a combination of things necessary for a QB to be their absolute best and for a coach to be their absolute best. They both had what was necessary. But only Bill is the one that put absolutely everything in PLACE for them to have what was necessary. I will say I actually think Tom is dam near a coach literally on and off the field. I think if Tom was allowed to be QB and manage everything. He would still win a couple Superbowls. The MF'er so good it's painful to know if you don't play perfect you just go get yo A handed to you and ain't ish you can do.
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This stands till this day and it really shows. NE currently 1-4 & the patriots been looking bad since TB12 left. Under BB... Im a pats fan btw. lol 😂
tough being a patriot right now :(
So if Tome stayed and bill left, are yall saying the patriots would’ve won the Super Bowl?
@seancarter7954 would it surprise you knowing he got 7? lol cmon man
@@maydayjj you’re not answering my question. It’s a hypothetical ?, so if u don’t want to answer I understand.
@@maydayjj and know it wouldn’t have surprised me , seeing the team he was going to and who he was bringing. So ur telling me a team with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, then u add, Brady, gronk, ab and ndamakung suh, you’d be surprised if they won?
I think it's a combination of both coach and Tom, he's doing fine with Mac Jones right now but I don't think anyone's gonna come close about 50 years from now we will still talk about tb12
yeh brady-belichick combo is very rare. 2 very competitive, workaholics that are the best at what they do
TB12!!
yesssssss
lets goooooooo
"Nobody knew Tom would win these many championships" True but you could take a QB #1 overall and still not expect Brady's accomplishments. He's won more SB's than any franchise.
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TB plays on a 6 dimensional chess board.
that's right!!! :))
He almost forgot the family was there lol
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Rams vs pats who won that sb? It was both
Was that Brady's first SB?
It’s funny how patriots haters said Brady was a system QB now that he left and the pats aren’t as good now it’s Belichick was carried by Brady. Can’t take these people serious.
Anyone who says Brady is a system qb doesn't understand football 😂
Revis said tb12 100%
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No other team drafted him either. I hate these takes. It’s a quarterback league and it matters where the qb goes bc the wrong team the wrong coach can ruin them. Then we follow that up with give bill no props lmao can’t make this stuff up.
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Agree 100%. Also can acknowledge that Revis ain’t the most objective when it comes to judging the pair. Not a secret how much he straight hates Bill lol😂. Must’ve said something about Revis’ momma or something. Can’t just be him clowning Revis for even suggesting that he could prolong his career by switching to safety like Hall at the Skins lol.
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People gotta stop discrediting Bill… sure you can say all day that Tom Brady running dat offense but who in hell do you controlled dat defense during those Super Bowl runs… Bill!!!!
❤️Well said
Bill gone show y’all
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Yup… he shown us 0 playoff wins since Brady left…. If you add that to his 0 playoffs wins before Brady, he’s sitting at around 0 playoff wins for his career without Brady… Rex Ryan did more with mark Sanchez than bb has done without Brady 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
If you leave Tom Brady on this Patriot team and take belichick away same fucking results If not worse stop it
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Wow even revis said it was 12
Yeh. Revis knows greatness 🐐
Winning on the super team buccaneers was not impressive. Especially since they won one game against a playoff team the entire regular season and Brady played awful in the playoffs but got bailed out by his defense constantly
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I mean, you still gotta give Tom his credit regardless, if he didn’t play up to his standards, but still, he was the main guy that led that team to the Super Bowl 🤷🏾♂️💯
@@Dre.2397 no he wasn’t. The only playoff game he played pretty well in that Super Bowl run was against the losing record Washington football team. Then he threw like 3 picks in the divisional and championship but got bailed out by his defenses. Then in the Super Bowl only had to make the easiest throws I’ve ever seen while Patrick Mahomes was running for his life because it just so happened that all of his starting offensive linemen were out. Look at the Buccs now. They have a better record and just won the wild card with baker mayfield than last year when they had a worse record and lost in the wild card with Tom brady
Its was a team efforts.
yes it was
Get Larry in here if you guys are going to bring up chess
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I think it was a great combination of both neither one of them would’ve won 6 SBs without the other one
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Not sure about that. It Brady wins again this year I might see it differently. They were a great pair together . Brady may create another dynasty in Tampa. If he does that nothing would convince me he couldn't of won the 6 himself somewhere else.
@@pamelamichaud994 That is true. But it’s real convenient to be a 20 year vet and coached by a great coach and take all your experience to a young superstar team that’s already set up for success. You implement what you know is affective and get the whole team on the same page and no doubt you’re going to win some championships.
Debatable other coach/gm mightve gotten Brady more weapons
BB was a Master Mind in his own head. This current team has marginal talent at WR, a subpar QB & a questionable OL. Need more proof: N'Keal Harry 👀🤪🤡😵💫
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What makes it worse is that despite everything. Bill Belichick still thinks all those Divisional Titles, AFC Titles, and Super Bowls were a result of him 😂
Can't believe he got away with treating Tom like shit for 20 years.....what an Asshole 😂😂😂
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Bill has put on some defensive master classes in super bowls. I’ll give Tom Atlanta, and I’ll give Tom credit over all. But never discount bill who built the program, and built Tom up within it. Anywhere else, Tom is good, but he’s not the goat.
Bill is the best defensive coach
They were a match made in heaven. Brady elevated the foundation Bill created. Brady took them to the next level and made the success sustainable. But Brady didn’t create the foundation, let’s make that clear.
He sure did
@@TBDtribute The formula worked before Brady’s emergence. As he grew as a player, he just took it to the next level.
@@ifheavenwashuman In other words, Belichick probably wouldn't have been that successful had it not been for Brady being there and becoming the starter. That's why he traded Bledsoe away after they won the Super Bowl. Ppl say Brady was a system QB when in fact he was the system. Some QBs are just built different. Bill may have laid the foundation, but Brady built it up. There wouldn't have been no 6 rings without him.
@@darkdante9 No doubt.
@darkdante9 bill is still equally important because his defense often times won the chips. It was rare for the pats to play a high scoring superbowl game up until like 2014 and 2016. Even the last pats superbowl score was 13-3. That's the defense securing that chip
Bill had a losing record on both sides of Tom
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Who the hell says “twelve?” It’s One Two…
😂 😂 12
Tom
tb12!!!
There’s a new goat in town . And his name is Patrick Mahomes . Brady fan boys enough crying .
sorry bro. brady still the goat
TB 12
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#GOBUCS
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Aaww I miss watching him play 😢
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How people gonna forget that he pisses himself
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Everybody seems to forget that Tom Brady doesn't play defence and the Patriots had a smothering defence early on in Tom's career. My favourite TBs on the Patriots squad was Troy Brown and Tedy Bruschi. Tom Brady was maybe tied for my 3rd favourite TB with Terrell Buckley. 🤣
Huh?
He’s mad because Belichick let him go. Players always hurt when teams let them go.It takes a good coach to develop a QB into greatness and have good career. Tom Brady said himself Belichick tough him how to be a better QB. He was mostly a Jet so he knows nothing and just want attention. Brady never got to meet the old QB coach so Belichick had to be all hands on with him. Spending weekend going over play books and watch different films. Even his dad said it. It’s crazy how dumb people are and discredit him. He created the team so how tf he didn’t build dynasty??? He is the GM How didn’t he have something to do with wins??? He’s the coach. Look at lakers for EX Stacked Team but no good coach so they are doing bad. I’m black but I’m tired of black athletes making excuses for one another. Cam was trash and they don’t want to admit it.
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revis didn't win b4 bill didn't win after bill but he da GOAT.. FOH
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Without Tom, the Patriots may not have won any superbowls. Then again who knows, they could have been in the position to draft Rodgers, Brees, Eli etc.. instead just a few years later.
I think Eli is underrated 😊
Well the refs help that
seriously?
Starting to look like Bill is the one who should get a lot of credit!
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That's not Revis, it's Chad Ochocinco. Revis said he was miserable playing for Pats and Brady was 100 % responsible for Pats success..
? It's revis. You need to watch it bro 😂
@@TBDtribute You are right! When I wrote the post I was watching thegame.Another moral victory for a loser Belichik. I apologize.
Easy mistake. Ocho on the cover, I can't choose covers for this video
@@TBDtribute Sundays are super tough,with an early London game ,car races and hockey is 17 /18 hours of watching sports ( mainly football)
@@TBDtribute I thought it was one of those 10 second posts.I will watch better tomorrow, but I always leave posts and thumbs up for the al..ritm.
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