Will it START? 50yr Old Tractor Haul Out Machine SITTING for YEARS!
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- In this video, I see if I can get this old Massey Ferguson Cane Haul Out Tractor and trailer running. There is alot of history to this machine, owned by the current owner for over 50 years and being the first high lift tipper bin in his region making the unloading process much easier and safer between each run too and from the mill. Earmarked for restoration and being brought home from its current location, I go through the motions to see if I can get it running again after sitting for such a long time.
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Mr Bruce, I have to say your videos are so relaxing for me. I deal with high levels of anxiety and you are so calm and your voice is very relaxing. As a plus I learn so many things from your videos. Thank you.
Thanks very much, appreciate your feedback and glad you enjoy the videos
I feel the same way @FloridaHickFilms!! Bruce's videos are always so relaxing. It's like ASMR for mechanics. I love watching Bruce, plus he is very educational as well.
@@brockmitchell3989 I used to work with old hands like him. They are mostly gone now. Everyone is angry and spiteful. I am only 37 but I strive to be like Mr. Bruce
I feel you on this. So much crap content online but this is what we like to see. A master doing his craft
The same for me❤
Enjoy these longer videos with minimal editing no music. thanks bruce
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback
Hi Bruce, Bruce here, The problem I believe is the stop lever on the injector pump. I just overhauled one of those injector pumps, thanks to Lance (Bundy Bears Shed) at Queensland Tractor Spares for the video on how to do it. We tried and tried to start an old David Brown 990 but it did not happen. We decided to overhaul the injector pump and found the stop lever was jammed in the closed position. We primed everything once the pump was refitted and hit the starter and it started immediately. Took us by surprise , it started so easily.
If you have another go at it try working the stop lever back and forth to free it up. Not a lot to those injector pumps so they are easy to work on. Have a look at Bundy Bears Shed on YT and check out the CAV injector pump overhaul video.
Cheers Mate.
Thanks so much for this, I do know of bundy bear shed and I will take this all on board, thanks again, Bruce
Bril!. The original bush mechanic 'engine whisperer!'. Nuff said. 🙂
Thanks Rob,
Love the stories behind these old machines. Thanks for sharing and giving them another chance in the sun
Thank you
Hi Bruce, I owned both a Chamberlain C670 and a C6100. The C670 was the 306 [70HP] A dog of an engine. The C6100 was fitted with the Perkins 354 100 HP. Used in everything conceivable. Not a bad motor.
Worked on some MWM Deutz engines that had a tiny filter screwed into the banjo bolt on the lift pump. Clogged very easily & caught out many people, including me until I spotted it!
On that fuel pump it has a strainer at the inlet of pump. Also it has a metering valve that gives it more or less fuel. When you pull the shutoff it closes that valve. When you push the shutoff back in the valve should go back to full throttle. That valve is known to stick if the engine has not run in years. I had the same problem with my backhoe. Tapping the fuel helped open it up. Since it is spring loaded. Thank you for another nice video.
Another old machine nursed back to action. Cheers
Soon hopefully
I love reviving old machinery, mostly cars though. I just purchased a basket case 1955 Jaguar Mark VII M. Manual trans with overdrive
It has not been started in over 60 years, the engine is free, I cannot wait to get it running.
You channel is relaxing and extremely fun to watch, thank you Sir!
Thanks very much Alek, all the best with your Jag!
Hi Bruce & Folks,
Another great demonstration of your skills, nothing can resist you...Thanks for sharing, have a good week!
Thanks Mick
Yes, another video from Bruce from down under👍👍.
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Thank you Peter
You did manage to get the Massey to turn over and fire...so....success! Well done!
Thanks very much
Yet another threpory season for your viewers whith your calm demeanor. Great stuff bruse
Pay no attention to the so-called experts, keep on rollin with the flow.👍
G'day Bruce, i have a coffee, a cighie, and one of your superior videos to watch, thanks mate from the UK
Thanks very much for watching, really appreciate it
Great video Bruce. There is a little gauze on the back end or the inlet of that injection pump. A lot of blokes don’t know they are there and certainly worth a clean. All the best mate
I love all of Bruce's videos for his passion and technical expertise. His fearless approach to Earth's deadliest snakes and spiders is truly amazing. I think Bruce must have inspired Steve Irwin at some point. I love Bruce's de;very and glad his eyes are mended, we need you mate!
Love the throwback photo
probably a chance the mechanical fuel cut off it stuck?!
lever might move but not inside the injector pump
I think there’s a very high chance it’s something like that too
I bet Bruce is awesome grandpa for someone lucky! Greetings from Finland.
Single handedly bringing back the forgotten machines of Queensland! Thanks for sharing, it's great to watch you work and pick up tips for my own efforts.
I'm here here setting on the edge of the couch saying come on start .. great video looking forward to the next
Thank you, hope it looks and sound ok on the tv, sorry about the go pro interlude, I wasn’t prepared and camera went flat
@@bruceinaus everything was cool man no worries
@@bruceinausno apology needed. We're loving these videos. Keep enjoying what you do and we'll keep watching 👍
Great to see you using Australian made sidchrome tools, we haven’t made them here since 96🥺
This is a really interesting tractor design! Thank you for showing this piece of history to us
I watch your videos late at night when I'm almost asleep and seems every time I see one posted my 4 year old comes to get in bed with us so he really enjoys watching them with me! Good times keep it up young man!
The stopper on those cav pumps stick if sitting
It looked free externally but I worry it might have been partially stuck inside as there wasn’t enough fuel getting up to the injectors in my humble opinion
Strange looking set up in the eyes of a southerner, you cannot dismiss the inventiveness of the Australian farmer. The bin loader and tractor should go to a sugar cane museum for display after restoration, hopefully in full working order, another great job Bruce. The Chamberlain looks in better condition being out of the weather. great video Bruce.
I appreciate your more thorough approach to bringing these classics back to life they have earned the respect through a lifetime of hard work. Thanks for the great work Bruce 👍
Most older machines will last forever with enough care! I doubt newer machinery will last more then 20 years
Much easier for someone like myself to work on without a computer
as someone from the UK it's interesting to see familiar names in your videos but with an aussie twist to work in harsher environment. Brillant, informative and entertaining
Thanks for that, I know these older Massey Ferguson tractors are loved there, the same as here
Always interesting. Thanks Bruce 👍
Thank you
Great job Bruce, I love to hear the sound of the old diesels. Thank you for your hard work from Fresno California.
Brilliant Bruce. Another winner for sure. Just great entertainment and I learnt a lot as well. I love the pressure spray tank used as a portable pressure air tank. Regards.
Well that was interesting, would be great to see running and the other one going as well. I worked on a cane farm at Nambour binning out the old way where we picked the wagons up off the tracks loaded them then set them back down again, that was fun, -- Not, a couple of times they run off the tracks but we got them back on again. thanks for the video.
Great Video, and Great Picture! Thank You.
Hi Bruce. Great video and I hope that you can get back and get the Massey to run. My guess that the whole unit was built by Barry McLean at Murwillimbah NSW. Barry was a real pioneer in the development of cane haulout units. He went on to build trailing and driven tipper bins as well as the huge elevator bins which could fill rail boxes one after the other down the tracks. Many other companies, Toft etc, would copy his designs and were used all over the canefields of NSW and Queensland. I even visited with a harvesting contractor in Belle Glade, Florida who was using the McLean toppers and elevators in conjunction with Austoft harvesters.
hey Bruce I have a IH434 with the same type of injector pump as that MF it had been sitting for years and would not pump like that MF I removed the top off the injector pump and it was only stuck with fuel varnish and I freed it up replaced the gasket and it started right up. Was a very simple job from memory the fuel stop was stuck in off position and the spring would not pull it back to the on position
Thanks very much for that Dave, I will pass that information onto the owner
Nice one Bruce ,
Cool vid.
Respect...!
My lucky day mate just finished watching your last upload haha 😁😁👍
Thanks Mick
Keep it up Bruce!!!
another GREAT video Bruce - thank you
In reality it did start but didn't run on it's own 😂 be great to see after the pump is fixed, also the other rig,thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
Very enjoyable Bruce
Love your work Bruce, would be good to see the chamberlain going
Bruce, you said this farmer asked if they could build the attachment to go higher. Today they would give you all the reasons how difficult that would be and how costly it would be. Personal service is gone. Back in the 70s it was can do. Today its 10 engineer's and designers and an absorbent cost. I put a steering system similar in my boat 30 years ago. Good day, Jim from Connecticut
Hey up Bruce another nice enjoyable video, old mate gave me one of those pumps a few years back as i was keen to look inside and learn how they work, not that much going on so pretty simple. Really like the homemade haul out tractor's good QLD ozi ingenuity
Thanks John, this was a bit of an impromptu video this one so I didn’t have time to look Further into the problem. Maybe down the track!
Another nice video Bruce, I don’t like the look of those spiders though !
Thanks
Thank you, the one at the end near that chamberlain was solid
Looks like the tractor unit off of Curtis's yard crane from cutting edge engineering.
I thought his might have been a bit newer than this one
Great video. The efficient, methodical approach with explanations and stories as you go are priceless. I hope younger people watch and appreciate how educational Bruce's videos are. There is way more here than meets the eye. Pay attention to the order and multi-tasking of Bruce's work. - Larry, Idaho USA
Thanks for the support and kind words Larry
LOVE the picture of it in operation, thanks for including that!! Hope to see you try to start the other tractor but zoiks it HAS turned into 'shed support' at this point. Be sure it's not in gear when you start it! !
Another lovely episode. Thanks Bruce. Love the birds in the background.
CHEERS BRUCE 👍
Hey Bruce another gem, it’s great that you are getting these things going and shipping them off to someone else who will give it a proper restoration as this is all part of Queensland awesome history in the sugar cane industry. I can remember going out to a huge sugar cane farm many years ago and I was amazed that the farmer had a tractor or prime mover for every piece of machinery on his farm, I asked him why and he said it was because during the cutting season they were just too busy to find the time to fix anything , I was amazed at the outlay, a lot of money sitting in machinery. I hope that we get the chance to revisit the dumper once it’s going again, be awesome to see it unloading into a semi. As always, great save old mate
Thanks Gordon, yes cane farms often have a lot of machinery in use, or in waiting for that exact reason.
Very cool 👍👍
Thanks very much
Awsome stuff bruce and camera man, bring on the chamberlan
Thanks for sharing Mr Bruce. I love watching and learning from you and enjoy the easy going style of your videos without all the fancy music / unnecessary drama 😅😂 Don't change anything!!
Keep the videos coming!
It's fun, being from the USA and hearing the different names/terms for and object.
Are you going to pull the injection pump to see if there's anything obviously wrong? Perhaps it was the pump that caused it to be parked.
Sorry it won't go but like some old wrelicks, we need some new parts too. I've always liked Perkins motors on Massey's and JCB equipment. The JCB's did a really outstanding job and were always extremely smooth and powerful and I did a lot of discing with a 185 Massey that was a reall bull. Thanks for another good one and CHEERS to you and the cameraman! And as the story said; if it won't move, do something different!
Thanks Lewie
@@bruceinaus You too, Pal! CHEERS!
Hello, I recently arrived on the channel, congratulations on the content! I'm watching all the videos. Hugs from Brazil
very good video
Bruce your videos are very interesting to watch they help me and my anxiety to relax thank you for your great content
Awesome 👍
hey bruce in aus just going over your video with the massey tractor maybe try the fuel shut off valve it should fire if that diesel valve is released otherwise maybe it wont dhut down
Great video, mate. Wonder if that haul out chased an MF201 or a 305.
I’m not sure, I know it has worked alongside various different harvesters over almost a 30 year period
another great vid!
tHE MAN IS A GENIUS!!!
Bruce mate , you are so good , just incredible man ❤.
Yea ha a new brucey vid 🎉
Thanks Cam
Hi Bruce, from the look and sounds of it, I think your problem with the CAV dpa pump is the fuel metering pin/arm is stuck in it's bore (common on these pumps when the engine has stood for a long time), pretty easy to sort out --- undo the 2 hexagon nuts on the rectangular top cover of the pump, lift the cover carefully (don't damage the gasket unless you've got a new one as the cover's hard to seal) as there's a spring tha goes from the throttle lever to the governor throttle plate that has to be unhooked (make a note of which hole (there's 3) the spring hooks into), lift off the cover and you'll see a sliding comb plate towards the upper edge with a slot at the front that engages with the fuel cut off/engine stop lever (I didn't notice but the lever was in the run position (lever forward to the rad) wasn't it?) and following it back you'll see a rectangular metal block with a pin that engages the comb and a long pin going into the body, lift this out (it may be stuck but can be persuaded gently to lift out), I generally clean the pin and bore with carb cleaner as it dissolves the gummy diesel well, carefully reassemble (getting the fuel cut-off lever eccentric pin to engage on the sliding comb plate is always tricky as if it doesn't engage in the plate properly it'll lock the sliding comb plate) the top cover by hooking on the spring (set the stop lever eccentric pin to the nearest position to the rectangular cover body), then whilst lowering the body down the studs wiggling the stop lever sligthly backwards & forwards you'll feel it click into the comb slot and it can then be lowered right the way down, reinstall and tighten the nuts (don't lose or forget the fibre washers under the nuts or it'll leak like a sieve), reprime/bleed the pump and it should be good, before you start the above, just give her one more try as the fuel doctor fluid might've got through to the pump and freed the fuel metering pin in any case. ---- hope this helps.
Bruce rocking the FXDs you love to see it!
How do you find all these cool projects? I’ve learnt a lot since watching your channel, thnx and keep up the great work 🎉
Right O' Good video! keep them coming. Always fun to see the solution and path to it.
Another high caliber video from Bruce and team. Keep up the good work!
Thank you
Thanks must go to you too bro for bringing us great content. Safe travels. Ken.
Thanks, Bruce, that was interesting. I drove haulout at Gin Gin on an old Layland and Chamberland. We talked about side tippers, but we would pick up 9T bins off the can line. Nice walk down memory lane. Especially seeing the Chamberlan with old crash box gratting into gear. Fastest tractors around they were.
Morning, it’s funny you say that. This owner of this one had that bin on the trolly line, roll on, roll off set up and crushed his thumb, that’s when he said theres got to be something better, so that’s when he went to Harold Toft in Bundaberg and had him manufacture this setup
Another brilliant video Bruce!
Nice to a one off, nice job GG you do a gran job we all love your vids, o yes keep it up mate. 👍
Too cool
Good one mate! Get that fuel sorted & she should purr like a kitten! Funny about odd tyres! Interesting the other tractor is holding the shed roof up!
Looking forward to the next instalment!
Great,another great video Bruce,very informative,keep them coming.
I agree you are very relaxing to watch. Good video Bruce I love your work 👍👍👍
Thank you
Good effort Bruce. Hoped like yourself that it would run, but but non the less, chuck a pump at it and a "One off" bespoke piece of history, will live again. Thanks for the post.
Thanks for watching
Nice work. Thanks for the videos. Good to watch and educational.
Always very interesting Bruce thanks for sharing 🦘😖
Nice try, Bruce! As always, you do a great job!!!
Hi Bruce. Can't understand why you didn't remove the injector pump. You're there, you have the tools and it's got to be done otherwise that beauty will just be a garden ornament for the next 50 years.
Yes the old Perkins engines in a old fishing boat the owner bought two tractors to rebuild or replace the two in the boat 😊😊😊😊
More Bruce bits. Cool!
Well done Bruce
Thanks Mark
Fascinating stuff, thanks for talking through it I currently have a similar issue on an old machine.
Thanks for watching
Bruce this video reminds me of my time working in queens land up at innisvale they had 306 chaimberlain tractors coupled to cane bins great video bruce cheers
Thanks Rory, as you probably seen, there is one of those right at the end of this video
Please give Steves place down under a shout out Bruce...ol mates loseing momentum!
Näyttäis olevan fergussonin teollisuus moottori😊 kiitos taas videostasi👍
Yes that’s right, Perkins 248 this one, thanks for the support
Great effort, I'm sure you'll get it to run.
Thank you, see how I go with the pump
Or come on Bruce given your expertise I expected you to whip the injector pump off the motor and rebuild it on the back of the Ute. 😂😅😢😊. Up here in North Queensland they still use the same principle for haul out bins although they are 5 times larger than the old Massey. Yes the hi/low gear stick must be in neutral for the tractor to start. Nice video Mate.
You need a 4" pocket crescent wrench VERY handy Great Video !
I think we call that a “shifter” here as it’s adjustable, and I do carry a little one in my bag of tools, thanks for the comment
Would be great to see the chamberland up and running or perhaps even driving if it would be possible 🇬🇧🇮🇪.
Bruce mate , you really are the best mechanic/technician i have ever seen. You put me to shame mate , i have been out of the game for a while but you are jogging my memory and makes me want to it again. I just never got any gratitude as the service advisors took it all as they did it without respecting the person/mechanic who did the hard work , plus they got more money for sitting behind a desk dribbling there crap , really sucked as they just sit there and push a few buttons on the computer and say that did it without respecting the mechanic. Clients only see there side not the hard work the mechanics have to do to fix everything. Sorry just is wrong and pisses me off and it still happens now days, something has to be changed to put service advisers in there place and have the mechanic getting more money than a fn service advisor.
Very informative Bruce great video 👍
Thank you