Seemed like almost a parental instinct from the controller, knowing this was basically a kid flying on his own. "Everyone else shut up for a while, I need to deal with this. 114, you get whatever you need.." He did a good job.
If it helps, according to FlightAware, this plane's most recent flight was not this one - which implies he made it down okay. Can't find anything else about this incident though.
KOKB is my home airport. It is a 2712’x75’ runway at an unattended field. Exactly 4 miles north is Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Air Station with a 6005’x221’ runway that is attended with a tower and crash crew and not in a canyon. As a pilot, I would not hesitate to land there in an emergency. The extra 4 miles and the longer, wider runway at MCAS could have made the difference in survival. The controller did a great job but should not have overlooked this option. More importantly, if you’re an inexperienced pilot, don’t be afraid to make use of a military runway in an emergency. Pilots have died because they overlooked the option.
Student pilot here, I wanted to add that while the Marines (or any other mil branch) might not be particularly happy that you land there all that ultimately matters is that you're back on the ground safely. They might have a strong security response but will be happy to help and will make sure you get what you need.
Awesome ATC. I cringed when the controller asked the pilot to "copy a phone number". Obviously that is not something the pilot needed to be doing in that situation, however the controller quickly caught himself and rescinded that request.
Happened to me over the Alps when VFR turned to thunderstorms in a C172. Pilot handed me the checklist (I was right seat) and we found the carb heat setting about six items down. Went back to Zurich for a change of underwear.
Everyone was really calm and professional. Great job from the student pilot and ATC and it was cool to see the e?? flight instructors jump in with advice and tips too.
Well this brings back memories of my first solo cross country. I think I was 6500' over Sacramento in a 150. Thought I heard a change in engine sound. Really? No, it's just "automatic rough" - a little nervous making the trip alone, I guess. Happened again. Then I watched the tach, and sure enough, it was moving a tiny bit. Then it quickly got worse - sounded like this guy's engine. Oh S#!+. Mixture rich - engine pretty much died, so I undid that. Carb heat - same thing - felt like the engine just died. I was on flight following with Sac approach (this was before norcal approach) and told them I was a student... something was wrong and I wanted to land. I was on top of Sac Exec, so they just let me make a big circling decent. The engine seemed to get better as I pulled out a little throttle and descended. Shortening the story - landed safely. A couple of CFIs came in another plane to get me - one them flew the 150 back to Stockton without incident. After my debrief with the staff at my flight school, the consensus was carb ice. I observed, and shared, that in primary training, your engine fail drills are simple - instructor grabs the throttle and declares "your engine just died." So you go through the memory items, set up best glide and decide where you will hypothetically land/crash. Nobody ever suggested that "carb ice" would slowly choke out the motor. "Your engine just died" was only kind of engine out practice I had. But my CFI said I did the two important things right, even if I didn't know what was wrong. Pick the place to land and maintain airspeed. It worked.
Great work from the controller and a really well doing pilot. My very first lesson started with hick ups in the engine on the way home.... The approach was a high altitude one until close to the major airport..... Flying the first solo navigation the middle airport offered landing on the 90 degree taxiway due to side wind. The offer was not taken, landed according to home airport training... I kept on flying and got my license....
Student gets an A+. Many get overwhelmed and forget to fly the aircraft resulting in lose of control. This guy was very controlled. Good future in commercial operations if he pursue it.
I've never been in this situation, but with a partial engine failure I would not be wasting time flying over open ocean. I would get myself over land immediately
Oceans are flat. No terrain to worry about. That area looks kinda hilly to me. Hugging the coast, there's a good chance of putting it down on a beach if it becomes necessary. Beats trying to land on a mountain.
@@stablegenius1595 It's a Cessna 152 - it stalls at about 50kts. Even if its hilly there's plenty of highway and flat ground, plus Camp Pendleton is full of military first-aid trained personnel
If your track was right, he was overflying Camp Pendleton, not heading towards the airport he was trying to land at. I'd be surprised if 22 area where the main airfield is located didn't put up a few jets to check him out, or at least I would hope they would have! Maybe they did and that's why we were left hanging on this one, a fake emergency to over fly A Marine Corps base is what it looks like to me. Thanks for this one, it speaks volumes without saying a word.
Camp Pendleton is within 2 miles of Oceanside Airport, well within the traffic pattern size for jet aircraft, and also lies almost directly under the VOR-A approach to said airport. I bet they have hundreds of planes fly over every day.
@@HiddenWindshield You may be right, it was very small in the eighties when I was stationed there and I'm sure still is though. When I lived in base housing at main side, I don't remember ever seeing small civilian planes fly over and that's at the south of the base, just north of Oceanside.
@@tommychew6544 Yeah, most people don't notice the number of planes that fly over them every day, unless they just happen to be outside. Even in a car, you can only see planes directly in front of you. I know a guy who happens to live right in the middle of my flight school's designated practice area, and they didn't know until I told them.
Remarkably calm for a student pilot and ATC did a very professional job.
Seemed like almost a parental instinct from the controller, knowing this was basically a kid flying on his own. "Everyone else shut up for a while, I need to deal with this. 114, you get whatever you need.." He did a good job.
Well sh*t, boys, just leave me hangin'. Hope he made it down okay.
If it helps, according to FlightAware, this plane's most recent flight was not this one - which implies he made it down okay. Can't find anything else about this incident though.
@@himethisisme Thanks. Glad he made it.
So nice that the other pilots kept off the air until needed then did what they could to help but still respected ATC's requests.
It is a professional community. That said, when pilots are in trouble and someone can help, you hear them do it.
They know. Respect to my skydraggers.
KOKB is my home airport. It is a 2712’x75’ runway at an unattended field. Exactly 4 miles north is Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Air Station with a 6005’x221’ runway that is attended with a tower and crash crew and not in a canyon. As a pilot, I would not hesitate to land there in an emergency. The extra 4 miles and the longer, wider runway at MCAS could have made the difference in survival. The controller did a great job but should not have overlooked this option. More importantly, if you’re an inexperienced pilot, don’t be afraid to make use of a military runway in an emergency. Pilots have died because they overlooked the option.
Student pilot here, I wanted to add that while the Marines (or any other mil branch) might not be particularly happy that you land there all that ultimately matters is that you're back on the ground safely. They might have a strong security response but will be happy to help and will make sure you get what you need.
Controller did a great job. Student calm and listening to controllers help…
One of the best controllers I have ever heard.
Awesome ATC. I cringed when the controller asked the pilot to "copy a phone number". Obviously that is not something the pilot needed to be doing in that situation, however the controller quickly caught himself and rescinded that request.
It's nice to hear when everybody kept cool and was a great pro.
Happened to me over the Alps when VFR turned to thunderstorms in a C172. Pilot handed me the checklist (I was right seat) and we found the carb heat setting about six items down. Went back to Zurich for a change of underwear.
Why didn't you follow through until the end of the flight? At the least, it would have been nice to post an update.
Nice my friend 👍🏼💙
Anyone else that wants to call….DONT. Classic
Everyone was really calm and professional. Great job from the student pilot and ATC and it was cool to see the e?? flight instructors jump in with advice and tips too.
Well this brings back memories of my first solo cross country. I think I was 6500' over Sacramento in a 150. Thought I heard a change in engine sound. Really? No, it's just "automatic rough" - a little nervous making the trip alone, I guess. Happened again. Then I watched the tach, and sure enough, it was moving a tiny bit. Then it quickly got worse - sounded like this guy's engine. Oh S#!+. Mixture rich - engine pretty much died, so I undid that. Carb heat - same thing - felt like the engine just died. I was on flight following with Sac approach (this was before norcal approach) and told them I was a student... something was wrong and I wanted to land. I was on top of Sac Exec, so they just let me make a big circling decent. The engine seemed to get better as I pulled out a little throttle and descended. Shortening the story - landed safely. A couple of CFIs came in another plane to get me - one them flew the 150 back to Stockton without incident. After my debrief with the staff at my flight school, the consensus was carb ice.
I observed, and shared, that in primary training, your engine fail drills are simple - instructor grabs the throttle and declares "your engine just died." So you go through the memory items, set up best glide and decide where you will hypothetically land/crash. Nobody ever suggested that "carb ice" would slowly choke out the motor. "Your engine just died" was only kind of engine out practice I had. But my CFI said I did the two important things right, even if I didn't know what was wrong. Pick the place to land and maintain airspeed. It worked.
Great work from the controller and a really well doing pilot.
My very first lesson started with hick ups in the engine on the way home.... The approach was a high altitude one until close to the major airport.....
Flying the first solo navigation the middle airport offered landing on the 90 degree taxiway due to side wind. The offer was not taken, landed according to home airport training...
I kept on flying and got my license....
Student gets an A+. Many get overwhelmed and forget to fly the aircraft resulting in lose of control. This guy was very controlled. Good future in commercial operations if he pursue it.
I am not sure, but this sounds like a situation that was on UA-cam a while ago. If it is the same, he landed safely.
Care to give us a link or more info to find it please?
One of the best controllers I've heard.
So...what happened?
Great ATC
I've never been in this situation, but with a partial engine failure I would not be wasting time flying over open ocean. I would get myself over land immediately
Oceans are flat. No terrain to worry about. That area looks kinda hilly to me. Hugging the coast, there's a good chance of putting it down on a beach if it becomes necessary. Beats trying to land on a mountain.
The land you see is all Camp Pendleton and all hills. I would rather ditch near the beach than take a chance on a military base.
@@stablegenius1595 It's a Cessna 152 - it stalls at about 50kts. Even if its hilly there's plenty of highway and flat ground, plus Camp Pendleton is full of military first-aid trained personnel
Pretty sure he is flying along the coast. Hardly "open ocean", easy there Marlin.
"Oceans are flat"??? 😂@@alexmiller7721
You can hear his engine running up and down on the radio
4:00 That's not a correct transcription.
When was this? I don't see this flight on FlightRadar recently....
Did he make it?
Yep, sounds like icing.
Heck with new stuff. I want complete control of my mixture
Why does he keep turning away from the coast? Big difference between 100 and 135.
He just kept flying east. Perhaps we'll see him in an upcoming episode. Please stand by.
RIP
WTF with all the ads! 90%+ ads?? Unwatchable!!!!
I have a simple solution for you. UA-cam premium. Zero ads.
C'mon, at least post an update.
Was that a "happy ending"?
… and…? Did he do a horizontal or vertical landing??
Maybe finish the story?????
RPM.... Not RPMs🤦♀️
If your track was right, he was overflying Camp Pendleton, not heading towards the airport he was trying to land at. I'd be surprised if 22 area where the main airfield is located didn't put up a few jets to check him out, or at least I would hope they would have! Maybe they did and that's why we were left hanging on this one, a fake emergency to over fly A Marine Corps base is what it looks like to me. Thanks for this one, it speaks volumes without saying a word.
ATC would've coordinated that so no they wouldn't intercept him
Camp Pendleton is within 2 miles of Oceanside Airport, well within the traffic pattern size for jet aircraft, and also lies almost directly under the VOR-A approach to said airport. I bet they have hundreds of planes fly over every day.
@@HiddenWindshield You may be right, it was very small in the eighties when I was stationed there and I'm sure still is though. When I lived in base housing at main side, I don't remember ever seeing small civilian planes fly over and that's at the south of the base, just north of Oceanside.
@@tommychew6544 Yeah, most people don't notice the number of planes that fly over them every day, unless they just happen to be outside. Even in a car, you can only see planes directly in front of you.
I know a guy who happens to live right in the middle of my flight school's designated practice area, and they didn't know until I told them.