Retaining Wall: Deadman Install and Backfilling Begins

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  • @craigb8145
    @craigb8145 4 роки тому +12

    As a old boy from Colorado I thought I would throw my 2 cents in! I enjoy your videos. But the man who said your doing it wrong was really trying to help with his wisdom. After building retaining walls in Colorado & Alaska I have found the T style deadman that is built into the wall secured with your rebar as well as into the area by the T section works best. Also using geo cloth filled with gravel is best for drainage and freeze proofing your structure. That is what pushes walls over water & freezing! So if you try that you should have a very lovely wall that lasts for more years than you can believe! I dont know it all but I have had the experience of wall failure. Thanks

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому +1

      That's great. We love hearing feedback and tips. We did do a bunch of research and chose a popular method that we described in many videos. We did use the geo cloth and gravel combo. Thanks for sharing!

  • @als2797
    @als2797 4 роки тому +2

    It does my heart good to see father and son working together . . .

  • @hubyjob1
    @hubyjob1 4 роки тому

    We just added a French drain and water basin drainage system to divert water from our foundation to our aspen grove. Good stuff you guys, big ass nails and humming birds.....

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      haha. gotta get technical with the nail size! Enjoy those aspens this fall!

  • @markb1487
    @markb1487 4 роки тому

    I've done this type of project many times, people wanting raised beds etc etc,, the one thing I would say is, that on the inside where you are backing filling the sleepers+the stays you are using will be OK for a time, what I've used+found to outlast the wood is Re-bar.. 8ft pieces, driven into ground 4ft,then attached to the sleeper with a galvanised bracket.. Your right about the water run off with the gravel,, Good video.

  • @Clothis64
    @Clothis64 4 роки тому

    Give earth or snow to Viggo, he will be the happiest dog in the universe !
    This will make you a beautiful terrace and the view of the wall of the lower ground will also be beautiful. Good work !

  • @beverlyparrott3890
    @beverlyparrott3890 4 роки тому

    Stoney Ridge Farmer sent me over. Beautiful Home you should be very proud. Will enjoy following.

  • @yasminghani2073
    @yasminghani2073 4 роки тому

    Enjoy watching your video

  • @joekemp8625
    @joekemp8625 4 роки тому +9

    You might want to consider redoing the wall. Or, at least have a plan ready for if it starts leaning out. Here are some things to note for any future wall:
    1. The deadmen are not the proper size or shape. The should be "T" shaped, with the top of the T in the hill. The deadmen are not there to stop the wall from tilting, as yours appear to be designed to stop. They are there to stop the wall from bulging/bursting due to frost and water forces.
    2. The angled supports actually weaken the deadmen's affect. If you have frost forces on those supports, the angled parts might end of pushing out the top pieces of the wall. Also, as others have noted, those screws won't help.
    3 The proper way to anchor deadmen is with #4 (1/2") rebar. The "butt" of the railroad tie should be exposed on the wall, and the rebar should be driven vertically through holes in the other ties. This binds the deadmen to the wall structure. On the hill end, rebar isn't as necessary due to the T top shape, but many add rebar anyways since it is so cheap.
    4. The gravel was a good idea, but you really wanted it to about within 8" of so of the top of the wall. That said, the gravel does do much in your case due to lack of a drain pipe. The gravel should make a chute of sorts that brings water both away from the top of the wall, and down to a drain pipe that carries the water away. I can't remember if you mentioned way soil fill you got, but if you have clay, be aware that it is cheap for a reason. Its heavy and retains moisture, adding excessive stress to walls and also making frost a nightmare.
    I am by no means a structural engineer, any I will do most any project on my own with my own ideas. But retaining walls are on the short list of "spend far too much time researching before doing." Landscapers are not necessarily the best choice for advice. If you go up to one and say "Hey, I want to build a wall with X" they will help you. But a wall built with X might generally not be meant to last as long as a wall built with Y, so while they are giving you proper advice for X, its not good advice overall. The science behind deadmen and geogrid (soil reinforcement) is both precise and unforgiving. Its amazing how a seemingly minor change that us non-structural engineering folk might make can end up nullifying the whole concept we are trying to make better.
    I don't mean to be a downer again, but my intentions by watching your videos are as such. I want to be jealous and say "Damn I wish I could do what they are doing." I do not want to be saying "I don't envy being in their position." Your wall makes me nervous, and I hope to be huff-huffing about nothing. Note that if your wall does show signs of failure early on, there are walls you can fix it. It just won't be as easy then.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for taking the time to outline such a thorough and thoughtful response. I know Bryan did a ton of research before building, but that doesn't make him an expert, of course. There's probably some things he can switch up now before we finish the project.

    • @garycrumrine9538
      @garycrumrine9538 4 роки тому +3

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving I agree with Joe. Also the long runs should have staggered joints. When you place deadmen, try to place them in your joints on multiple layers. The 2x6s are totally inadequate and the wall is going to roll over time. The screws used are going to bend/break and over it goes. Lastly, NEVER use railroad ties. They are already compromised, that is why the railroad took them out of the track environment.

  • @yasminghani2073
    @yasminghani2073 4 роки тому

    Amazing job

  • @JohnB-pp5dn
    @JohnB-pp5dn 4 роки тому +1

    Realistically the only thing keeping the wall from bowing out are a couple long lag bolts/screws. As Craig B said below, the dead man needed to be an integral part of the wall. A french drain at the bottom would help relieve any water pressure build up. Typically a cantilever column like the verticals in this wall aren't effective unless embedded depth is 1/2 to 2/3's the overall length. E.G. if the post is 6' out of the ground there should be 6-12' buried for it to act as an effective cantilever support.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the suggestions; we've made some changes and will present them in the next video.

    • @JohnB-pp5dn
      @JohnB-pp5dn 4 роки тому +2

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving I just hate to see so much hard work fail prematurely. I wasn't trying to criticize, just trying to give some hints/help. I do have an engineering degree, so there is some training/education behind my comments.

    • @JohnB-pp5dn
      @JohnB-pp5dn 4 роки тому +1

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving I just hate to see so much hard work fail prematurely. I wasn't trying to criticize, just trying to give some hints/help. I do have an engineering degree, so there is some training/education behind my comments.

  • @g.r.4853
    @g.r.4853 4 роки тому +8

    Pressure treated wood will rot and regardless of what they manufacture claims, in less than 10 years. Also what you are calling a "deadman" does not come to mind when I think of that. Anytime I had to use deadmen, I used steel or rebar about 4 or 5 feet long if possible and this was welded to a large flat cross piece to become like a huge anchor in the dirt. That deadman looks to me like it will fail early. I hope I am wrong because it can get expensive later.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the info!

    • @davem3789
      @davem3789 4 роки тому

      CCA treated test stakes to 0.60 pcf retention or greater have been in service over 50 years in southern Mississippi (high decay zone). So treated wood can last. That being said big commercial retaining walls will use concrete block, geogrid, and rock backfill.

    • @DanielinLaTuna
      @DanielinLaTuna 4 роки тому

      Unfortunately I have to chime in here with similar bad news from experience. I'm in southern California, so moisture isn't a big problem, but I have a horse stable that I raised about three feet (To be at the same elevation as the very far end of my half acre. I used pressure-treated 2x6's, exposed on one surface. Then I decided to raise the grade on one side of the pad supporting the stables. I added about a foot and a half of decomposed granite and left it in place for a season. Then I re-thought that plan and dug the DG away. Lo and behold, the treated lumber had started failing, with fungal roots threading from the timbers into the ground. As long as the face was exposed to air, no problem. But when both sides were underground - wow. And this is in a relatively dry climate. So I'd be wary about burying lumber, treated or not. Sorry Amy.

  • @markbrayton5391
    @markbrayton5391 4 роки тому

    Walls looking great, nice work with the corner ties. That would make a nice garden area.

  • @ws775
    @ws775 4 роки тому

    Thats quite a big project! What a beautiful view!

  • @christoffer1973
    @christoffer1973 4 роки тому +1

    Looking great!
    Maybe you should have "french drain" as long it's made of wood, for water not puddle in the back.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Do you think the 10 inches of gravel will act the same to encourage drainage?

    • @grassabrutta
      @grassabrutta 4 роки тому +2

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving @Craig B and @Christoffer1973 are both right. I feel shitty saying this since you have already filled, but you actually need a barrier running the full height of the wooden wall (to allow small volumes of water to pass thru [almost like a stone drywall] but no dirt); then, what you should also have for the full height of the wall, is your clean gravel for drainage -> wall height x preferred depth (10 inches ?). Then, behind the gravel should be another barrier to trap the dirt you are filling with. Without that setup, you will definitely need a french drain ... but that will now be quite some work to fit in. So, I think you're gonna see swell after one winter and it will probably not rock back into position .. kinda the beginning of the end unfortunately. Make sure your dirt/garden level is above the wall height so that you get as much water running over the top instead of getting trapped behind the wall. And, plant things that are thirsty, but do not grow nasty roots. Good luck.

    • @DanielinLaTuna
      @DanielinLaTuna 4 роки тому

      Amy, I second the advice. I know it was a lot of work, but you're not so far in the projthat you can't back up a little. Best wishes, Daniel

  • @cdouglas1942
    @cdouglas1942 4 роки тому +1

    Many serious comments here about the proper methods of doing "deadmen". The properly constructed deadman is restrained from movement, and thus the wall to which it is attached, by the friction etc of the compacted earth that encapsulates it. Highway quality walls using this general technique are sometimes refered to as "reinforced earth"

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the tip! we will use the tractor to compact it quite a bit after it's all backfilled. Will look into "reinforced earth". thanks

    • @johnclements6614
      @johnclements6614 4 роки тому

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving I would not drive your tractor along the back of the wall, there is a risk that the wall will collapse. The tractor would only compact the top foot at the most. The fill will settle over the next year as your water etc trench did.

  • @bradhill5822
    @bradhill5822 4 роки тому

    Another Stoney Ridge Farm visitor, I’m just north
    of you in Wyoming..Howdy neighbor !

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому +1

      Excellent! We are headed that way next month for a little "getaway". Welcome!

  • @kj7vj
    @kj7vj 4 роки тому +7

    Finally Brian is using Technical Terms
    “Big Ass Nails”😂

    • @kj7vj
      @kj7vj 4 роки тому +1

      Amy love the looks Brian gives you when you ask a question😂 Seems as if he is constipated when answering😂

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому +1

      LOl too funny

  • @DW-fi4ch
    @DW-fi4ch 4 роки тому

    That turned out so nice. What a view🖼

  • @COYO-T
    @COYO-T 4 роки тому +1

    why didn't you just run short ties within the wall to support it on the fill side That are higher in the wall?You wouldn't need the triangles.Not to mention the fasteners will rust out over time.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Yet another way to do it. We chose one of the popular instructional videos after much research.

  • @jitskid831
    @jitskid831 3 роки тому

    How did you tie in the 30 inch piece of rail to the wall for the dead man what was the anchor used

  • @josephc3364
    @josephc3364 4 роки тому +4

    The 2x are going to fail as deadman supports. Too small for the wall.

  • @jefferyschirm4103
    @jefferyschirm4103 4 роки тому

    Stair stepping the fill area will help relieve pressure on the wall , outward !

  • @drjcwardjr
    @drjcwardjr 4 роки тому

    Strong work!

  • @richardrasmussen804
    @richardrasmussen804 4 роки тому

    Looks great! You have a beautiful view!!😁😁

  • @sandranewton6534
    @sandranewton6534 4 роки тому

    you guys are so lucky. Are you guys concerned about railroad ties being reliable? Oh so much work and good work and so glad you are taking care of BEAUTIFUL COLORADO!

  • @doumor99
    @doumor99 4 роки тому

    What part of Colorado? My Mom has 7 acres on the West side of the mountains in the Wet Valley appx 15 miles from Westcliffe. Scenery is awesome everywhere up there.

  • @suenorton873
    @suenorton873 4 роки тому

    I want my chair to go where Brian was standing at the end of the video... i love your view. Be safe

  • @miller8084
    @miller8084 4 роки тому +1

    Wish I didn’t have to say this but agree with others who commented that the wall is gonna fail. Just built one very similar and deadman’s need to be 2x as big and laced throughout wall and no seem should be next to each other. If possibly, stop and correct. I give it 5 years at most given your location. Sorry, but way to get after it.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the feedback. The initial 2 rows have staggered seams and you'll see the changes we've made in the next video.

  • @samstanley2847
    @samstanley2847 4 роки тому

    This is going to make you an old man quick!

  • @finned958
    @finned958 4 роки тому

    The soil should not be against the wall to the top. Instead, the gravel must be against the wall, then landscaping fabric, and then soil. Wet soil will eventually push out the retaining wall since the water will not drain since its right up against the wall. It’s not too late to dig out the soil and fill in with gravel. You should consider waterproofing the fence on the inside. The gravel and soil needs to be compacted. Water is the biggest enemy of a retaining wall. Alternatively, it’s cheaper to just buy dirt, lots of dirt, to regrade your hill. Water will drain naturally off a slope.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      We have made adjustments to our construction of the wall in the next video. Thanks for the suggestions.

  • @super123steve
    @super123steve 4 роки тому

    Good job guys ,I hope those dead men have strong bones!

  • @ra27jan
    @ra27jan 4 роки тому

    Well Done, beautiful

  • @GollyGDean
    @GollyGDean 4 роки тому

    It won't last. The wall is on fill. The gravel base isn't deep enough. 2 x 4 pressure treated held by screws to a 2 foot railroad tie? Dead men are commonly understood to be same size beams extending straight into the hill and attached to another beam in a T arrangement.

  • @crazy-jv7bz
    @crazy-jv7bz 4 роки тому +3

    they make concrete blocks for that and way easier to install

    • @christoffer1973
      @christoffer1973 4 роки тому

      Look better whit old train rail wood

    • @crazy-jv7bz
      @crazy-jv7bz 4 роки тому +1

      @@christoffer1973 well tell that in about ten years when it start falling over because its made of wood its hard to bet a 4 thousand pound block of concrete with nice color

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Thanks we didn't' want a concrete wall .

  • @mariomorrismagic
    @mariomorrismagic 3 роки тому

    He sounds like Clint Eastwood.

  • @augustreil
    @augustreil 4 роки тому

    These guys build retaining walls with Tie backs/ deadmen in the worst of conditions, the ocean ! Check out what they do:
    ua-cam.com/video/2N9TRCfZrDs/v-deo.html

  • @mattcaluda
    @mattcaluda 4 роки тому

    it looks Mountastic! like sue ive picked a spot for a chair.

  • @keithrosen1139
    @keithrosen1139 4 роки тому

    good effort. But the dead men should be steel and concrete.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      I'm sure they should . One idea we had to finish the job was to plunk a bad of concrete across the deadman before backfilling.

  • @marcelhertig3935
    @marcelhertig3935 4 роки тому

    this railwaywood is soo poisson,becarefull whit it

  • @markb1487
    @markb1487 4 роки тому

    I've not watched your channel in over a year.. A few changes..

  • @thanewalton1080
    @thanewalton1080 4 роки тому

    Why are not staggering your joints, for more strength? Deadmen are wrong and also, no drainage.

    • @johnclements6614
      @johnclements6614 4 роки тому

      There are only enough king posts to support the sleepers at the ends. If there were twice as many they could have staggered and had the sleepers supported by more than one king post.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      The first 2 rows were staggered. We are not done the project; the next video will detail the changes incorporated.

  • @VgniK88
    @VgniK88 3 роки тому

    A lot of pressure on your posts, hope it doesn’t blow out.

  • @Chinothebambino
    @Chinothebambino 4 роки тому

    This wall will fail unfortunately. Should have back filled with gravel all the way up. That soil will expand with moisture and freeze in the winter slowly tipping the wall over. Compaction and good drainage is key to a long lasting retaining wall.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      We shall see. there are other mechanisms in place to prevent that from happening.

  • @gersrdoconnor8064
    @gersrdoconnor8064 4 роки тому

    That's not a dead man rebuilding wall a dead man goes in the ground to support that wall from bowing out the opposite side

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Thanks; look for the next video, which will show what we've changed around.

  • @larrymills8527
    @larrymills8527 4 роки тому

    seams like code would require a fence or something to keep people or kids from falling off the edge of wall

  • @VgniK88
    @VgniK88 3 роки тому

    U bracing for a concrete wall 🤣😂

  • @That1ufo
    @That1ufo 4 роки тому

    Seems i was unsubscribed.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      How does that happen? Someone else said the same thing not too long back.

    • @That1ufo
      @That1ufo 4 роки тому

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving Who knows just YT gremlins, it seems they also just changed how the bell works, now i have to change the setting to back to 'All' on ever channel if i want an alert of a new video. it seems to only give selected videos on 'personalized'

  • @astoica1
    @astoica1 4 роки тому

    Hello Amy.
    I'm very happy for u and your husband, for what u guys have achieved.
    Bless ur heart and may the lord jesus christ heal you from that skin illness that the devil is trying to intimidate you with. Because you are a child of jesus christ who has already healed us. Remember, you are already heald because jesus has already healed us on the cross, but this is just a way the devil intimidates us with. But just remind yourself with it every day and you will see how the so called "cancer" will disappear due to the promise of healing that jesus gave us.
    Remember always feed yourself and your heart and your mind and your spirit with the promise that you are already healed through the blood of jesus Christ and those thoughts of illnesses will just fade away because you are feeding yourself with the truth, not with the intimidation of what the devil wants you to believe.
    Remember, kick out of your mind all those thoughts that try to steal your identity of being a healed person,and keep your mind on Christ and on the promise that he gave us. that promise, is that you are already healed but you just have to feed yourself with it and believe it and look at yourself that you are already healed, therefore that faith will bring the healing to reality, but it is your job to hold the promise in your mind and your heart and feed yourself with it everyday therefore it will become a part of your identity and no other intimidation of the devil will try to steal your happiness or your future.
    Remember, the devil always intimidates people with the thoughts that come to your mind and tries to steal your happiness and your life away. That is how the devil speaks to people without people realizing that those thoughts in your head is actually the devil deceiving you, not ur own mind. But the world teaches you that dostart is you and your mind but the world is wrong.
    And one thing that God wants me to tell you is that you are a very beautiful person. But you have a problem believing that.

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the kind words.

    • @astoica1
      @astoica1 4 роки тому

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving
      You are welcome...
      You need to listen to this preacher in the link I provided for you, because you need to know your identity in the lord jesus and who you are in him. You need to know how important, you as a person, and for god and the reason god gave you life here on earth. And believe me, he did not gave u life just someone day you have a disease, that's just a lie. And never ever believe any of those lies, even if they sound right or if they make sense. That's just the devil's way trying to destroy you, by believing a lie. And the reason people believe lies is because they don't know any better or they simply do not know the truth about them, meaning they don't know why God made them, and how important they are in the presence of God or how important God thinks you are.
      So please listen to this preacher and feed yourself and learn your identity of who you are in jesus and how god sees you every day. But you must believe it.
      Believe it means that you must acknowledge it, see yourself as so, identify yourself as so and position your heart as so. That's what believe really means.
      ua-cam.com/video/Cnuw9N3nhJI/v-deo.html
      In the previous comment I told you that God told me to tell you that you are a very beautiful lady and you have a beautiful heart. Now the reason God tells me to tell you this is because he would like to say this to you, to yourself, but the reason he does not is because you don't know how to listen to God and you don't know how to acknowledge him when he wants to speak to you.
      Now wouldn't you want to know how he speaks to u ?
      And yes God of the whole universe does speak to you and to everyone on this world, but people are so lost within themselves and within this world that they have no idea that God speaks to them and wants to guide, he wants to revel himself to them, to know him, to know your creator, to heal them, to take care of them, and so much more.
      And it's free, I will not sell you anything here, but I will only sell you eternal life, and I will sell it to u for free.
      You need to read this. This is for you.
      Isaiah 55: 1-3
      Look here is another one for your beautiful heart. Revelations 3: 20
      JESUS is knocking on ur door, and that door is the door of your heart, to open it and let him reveal himself to you, and for him to save you and everything else he will do in your life.

  • @victorrodriguez9948
    @victorrodriguez9948 4 роки тому

    Let the man with skills and knowledge talk. Women think they built it when the reality is they couldn't survive on their own if ... their life depended on it.

  • @mmmh6406
    @mmmh6406 4 роки тому

    Too much talking

    • @ColoradoMountainLiving
      @ColoradoMountainLiving  4 роки тому +1

      Too bad for you.

    • @mmmh6406
      @mmmh6406 4 роки тому

      @@ColoradoMountainLiving Not really I just stopped it and went to look at other people's videos, so I didn't loose anything, just gained on not wasting my time. We the public want to genuinely see your work, not listen to endless nattering.

    • @tomwright203
      @tomwright203 3 роки тому

      @@mmmh6406 You’re mean

    • @JoeCooper-b4t
      @JoeCooper-b4t 4 місяці тому

      @@mmmh6406 I don't think it's endless nattering, I'd rather listen to him talk than you yammer away on here.