You can definitely tell that this was written by people who aren’t really invested in figure skating. Team Tutberidze and their straight up abuse of little girls has been a point of contention in the community for years and ultimately culminated in the Kamila Valieva scandal. On top of that, the blatant favouritism of Russian skaters has caused them to get far higher scores than their competitors who are typically underscored despite being as good or better. This I would argue is the biggest issue in skating right now but I also recognise that this list isn’t meant for us fans, it’s meant for people who know nothing but the headlines. But I do think that more people need to know about this beyond our little community
“Their competitors being good or better…. “ No one’s even close to them😂😂 No ultra-Cs in the world championship without Russian ladies🙄🙄 Even their haters admit that))) There’s a channel by a “former competitive skater Eric” who makes hourly videos about how Russian girls are overscored, have something wrong with their technique, etc. and even he admitted that Tutberidze girls are the strongest ones. And then went on putting them down again 😂😂 I bet most of his viewers didn’t even notice that he said that and only remember the negativity.
In her most recent interview Medvedeva was asked about her relationship with Eteri. -Is it producer/star kind of relationship? Zhenya: No, it’s relationship based on love. Here’s everything one needs to know about the so called abuse in team Tutberidze. Stop telling lies. I can send you a link for an interview, if you like, but it’s in Russian.
I'm always bafled, by this comments, she won 5 consecutive gold medal from the European Championships and 3 silver from the World Championships. In Nagano she arrived with an injury, so she couldn't perform the way she wanted, and after the 6th place in the sort she knew she doesn't have a chance to the medal so she performed a backflip. She had to deal with a lot of things in the background, but she was very successful. To insinuate, like that she never won anything is misleading.
@@SonOfAGun1814 She did skate well many times. I just think the judges did not like her style of skating, which was mainly technical, and athletic rather than more artistic and graceful, which is what the judges preferred back then.
@@curtisdalrymple42 when did she 'skate' well? to skate well one must have good basic skating skills. please link any video in which she 'skated' well? she was known for being athletic, but even her jumps lacked correct technique which she never corrected the duration of her career. i'm very excited to see this new video you know of where she skated well, please show me straight away.
Not gonna lie, bit disappointed about how you phrased the 2014 Sochi result! Many ex Olympians & other skaters looked at Sotnikovas score & her performance (which was FULL OF ERRORS) & the execution marks which just didn't match up. You made it sound as though it was just disappointed fans
Sotnikova's performance was not full of errors. It lacked grace and finesse but the jumps were all strong and the spins were fast and inventive and better than Yuna Kim's. Yuna's quality of skating skills was much better though.
@@Salazarsalsa I personally would be satisfied with a simple statement of "The judging calls were questionable." It would take less than 5 seconds and make it seem more than some fans complaining for no reason.
@t , прыжки, вращение и компоненты у Сотниковой были сильнее и лучше. Юна Ким сама сказала, что была меньше технически готова к Сочи, чем к Ванкуверу. Кроме того, если бы Липницкая не упала, она бы 100% получила первое место, а не Юна Ким.
I think the Valieva doping scandal, combined with team Tutberidze's collective meltdown after the FS, was way worse than the judging scandal of 2002. Not only are we talking about the abuse of teenage girls, but also that scandal resulted in the skaters STILL not having received their medals for the team event. I just feel like ethically this year's scandal was way worse.
ethically it may be worse but the 2002 scandal led to a complete overhaul of the judging system for the sport, so it's had a much larger effect on the sport.
That was an ugly moment of 2022. I have to admit that seeing the harsh treatment of the Russian girls is what made the bronze medal of 21 year-old Kaori Sakamoto the saving grace of the competition. And with a program that opened with "I love being a woman."
@@clairecorin5684 Kamillas doping lead to the age change for senior women, making it so that women have to be 17 instead of 15 for senior, that’s gonna have a pretty big effect on the sport.
Little bit of a failure with covering the Sochi judging scandal. It wasn't surprising because judging is subjective, it was controversial because Sotnikova was filmed hugging members of the judging panel after the free skate.
Но программа у нее была лучше технически, чем у Ким по прыжкам и компонентам. Сама Юна Ким сказала, что не была готова так, как к Олимпиаде в Ванкувере.
@@Алеся-я2б But even if we operate under the, admittedly false, premise that it was accidental exposure, other instances of this with adult and non russian figure skaters ended with them not being able to compete. US pairs skater Calalang had makeup that was contaminated and it took her 8 MONTHS to get the doping charge overturned, she missed major competitions because of this. Kamilla gets off with no punishment and still gets to compete though? Are you also conveniently forgetting that Russia is being sanctioned for state sponsored doping programs?
Not only that, but FS judging is NOT entirely subjective. Jumps have rules, and when a skater has clearly used a wrong edge or landed on both feet or underrotated a jump but doesn't receive any deductions for it, in fact they receive a high GOE, while someone else gets deductions for these same mistakes, something is definitely fishy there.
I'm a Mirai fan and it was NOT obvious she should go in 2014. It was Mirai's ONLY good performance the entire year, whereas Ashley had performed well all year. However, Mirai was the right choice over Ashley in 2018, as she had the performances. Right choices made both times!
I feel like Tutberidze-gate deserved at least 2. It brought to light a lot of abusive coaching practices. Her former student Evgenia Medvedeva has permanent spine injuries that present her from turning a certain way. Yulia Lipnitskaya was praised for disordered eating and had to check in a hospital following retirement. Not to mention all these girls burn out under the age of 20.
What age did Alysa Liu retired from tournaments? (17). How old was Medvedeva when she tried to participate in Russian champ? (20). Did Eteri have anything to do with Lipnitskaya eating disorder? (Since Yulia is her only student who got this, the answer is - Nothing at all)
In her most recent interview Medvedeva was asked about her relationship with Eteri. -Is it producer/star kind of relationship? Zhenya: No, it’s relationship based on love. Here’s everything one needs to know about the so called abuse in team Tutberidze. Stop telling lies. I can send you a link for an interview, if you like, but it’s in Russian.
This happened around 2007. Michelle Kwan, Kristi Yamaguchi and Sasha Cohen, due to endorsement deals, were taken to a jewelry store and told that they could have anything that they wanted. The three women, proving what class acts that they are, chose identical watches. Respect.
Might not have wanted to pay high gift taxes on them, although there are also expensive watches. Some games show winners find out taxes cost them more than they can sell the things for although sometimes they get a lower amount in check instead of taking the prize.
Lovely little tid bit they love to leave out about the Tonya Harding scandal is Tonya was trying to leave her husband (the one who orchestrated the attack) who was in all ways abusive & the ISU said if she did that she would not go to the Olympics because that wouldn't fit the picture perfect image of a skater. Whilst I don't doubt Tonya had faults, I hate how people act like Nancy was such an angel. Her bad sportsmanship towards oskanna (the gold medalist) shows that!
Harding's former husband is Jeff Gillooly (rhymes with "chop suey"). Gillooly changed his name to Jeff Stone after his release from prison in 1995. He also shaved off his famous mustache and took a job as a used car salesman.
Totally agree. And it was also because Nancy got a medical bye for the 1994 Olympics that she took what would have been Michelle Kwan's spot at the Olympics.
Kristi Yamaguchi winning World and Olympic, and being staggeringly uncelebrated, reportedly because of her Japanese extraction. The Duschesnays doing a brilliant (cultural appropriation) long routine and short programme and being marked down because ending up lying on the ice was counted as falling down even though it obviously wasn't. Next year, almost every ice dance team were lying on the ice without penalty.
_Her Japanese ancestry_ or _her ethnic Japanese descent_ . It is not an "extraction". I know of no incident of Yamaguchi's athletic accomplishments being ignored. However, I do remember a controversy in 1998 where MSNBC apologized for a headline that seemed to suggest figure skater Michelle Kwan was not an American. Asian-American groups were taken aback by the headline, _American Beats Out Kwan_ , saying it suggests a reluctance to acknowledge that they are United States citizens. "It's an error for which they apologize," said Sandra Michioku, executive director of the Asian American Journalists Association, "but it still showed an insensitivity and encourages the stereotype of Asian Americans as foreigners. Anyone who knows Michelle Kwan knows she is an American." "This is a basic headline error, and we are sorry and we will be sure this doesn't happen again," Merrill Brown, editor in chief of MSNBC said. MSNBC Executive Sports Editor Edmundo Macedo said the headline was one of two, the first of which said something to the effect that Tara Lipinski had won the gold medal in the women's figure-skating final. A sports producer chose "American Beats Kwan" for the second headline to avoid repeating Lipinski's name. "Obviously, it was not a good headline," Macedo said. The headlines ran as a marquee, scrolling across the site's main page shortly after Lipinski clinched the medal around 4 or 5 a.m. Pacific Time Feb. 20. The headline ran for no more than 15 minutes but went out to 85,000 subscribers of the site's News Alert service. MSNBC has since taken steps to make sure headlines are checked by a second staffer before being posted, the editors said. The site also posted an apology for the headline, which it said "may have been interpreted" to say Kwan, who is of Chinese descent, is not American.
@@RaymondHng My bad re the 'extraction' terminology; as to the overlooking of her: Watching from Britain cf the athletes' home, I don't recall Yamaguchi getting as much coverage/promotion as Harding and Kerrigan did even before 'the incident'
@@bheast86 Being from the same state as Nancy Kerrigan I can tell you that Nancy only got coverage because of the Tonya scandal. Kristi Yamaguchi is well-respected in America and a lot of young skaters looked up to her.
@@deirdrekiely6187 I would give Kerrigan credit for the 'I'm going to Disneyland' meme. Though hype isn't necessarily a good thing, Yamaguchi deserved more of it, and one would normally expect an American success story to get it in the English-speaking world, as well a lot of irrelevant guff regarding her staggering good looks, such as Katarina Witt received, even though she was on 'the other side'
Sotnikova winning Gold was weirdly the worst thing that ever happened for her career. She never replicated that same success again and no one really respects her as a gold medalist.
Глупости, золото Сотникова получила заслуженно!! Ее программа была артистичней и техничней, сложней, чем у Юны Ким. Обе делали небольшие ошибки. Но, как сказала сама Юна Ким, она к Олимпиаде в Сочи была готова меньше, чем к Ванкуверу.
USFSA has it in their rules that they have to look at competition history in order to name the Olympic team. They're not going to name someone based on one good competition. They left Ross Miner off the team in 2018 and Ilia Malinin in 2022 despite both winning 2nd. Mirai was having some growing pains and her competition history was erratic before 2014 and came to nationals without a coach which didn't help.
Some of the lesser known rules: Zayak rule - a skater can do a certain jump a certain of times; for example, the tripe toe jump can only be performed 3 times. Zagitova rule - in figure skating, if jumps are performed in the second half of the program they get a bonus. Since at the 2018 Olympics, Alina Zagitova “backloaded” her program to where all of her jumps are in the second half of the program, this rule was implemented so the jumps are more spread out.
@@scottibrown3274 they both had the same coach, so it's absolutely possible they both did it and some people just remember the rule's colloquial name differently!
@@alyssariceYT that is possible too, it should most likely be called the Eteri rule. Honestly, after the whole Kamila Valieva scandal at the 2022 Olympics, Eteri shouldn’t be coaching at all in my opinion.
Harding and Kerrigan TIRED of that. Kerrigan is NOT the nice girl and victim she portrayed herself to be. (degrading and derogatory remarks for Oksana Baiul because SHE, Kerrigan, did not win the title, bad sportsmanship, etc. ..just to name a couple of her lovely character traits...) Harding is worse. No love lost for either of them.
I know that they practiced constantly on ice, but those skaters glide so beautifully and easy. Again, I know that it takes years and years of practice.
I love the female French skater. I saw her in Detroit before the Olympics. She did a back flip. Debbie Thomas was an African American skater who we hear nothing about. I wonder why.
Debi Thomas was diagnosed with bipolar disorder by April 2012. In November 2015, it was reported that she was living in a bed bug-infested trailer in the Appalachian mountains with her fiancé who was struggling with anger and alcohol issues. Thomas stated that she was "broke", having lost most of her savings through her two divorces and failed medical practice, and had lost custody of her son when he was 13. She was featured in the November 7, 2015, episode of the television series _Iyanla: Fix My Life_ on the Oprah Winfrey Network. Thomas and fiancé Jamie Looney now live with Looney's two sons, Ethan and Austin, in southwest Virginia.
Because people want to erase Debi because of her personal problems. I'll never forget her. She's still the first black athlete to medal at the Winter Games!
@@etherealtb6021 People do NOT want to erase Debi. They want her to accept help for her mental health issues help but she refuses to deal with her problems. Her kids were taken away from her and she continues to live in poverty in a dirty trailer pitching karat bars (an "alternative currency"). It's a shame because she would be in HIGH demand as a coach (and could make a small fortune) but she wants nothing to do with figure skating.
I cannot stand hearing the Harding/Kerrigan buisness without ANY MENTION of the 16 yr old Ukrainian orphan Oksana Baiul who BEAT Kerrigan against all odds and after being slammed into during the pre-skate.. « With some snarky remarks towards the winner » PFFFFFTT her name is Oksana !!!!!!!! Rant over, very proud to be named after Oksana not Nancy or Tonya
Oksana collided with German ladies singles champion Tanja Swewczenko. It was an accident I doubt either intended it to happen. She finished 6th at the Olympics and 3rd at worlds.
I'm surprised that the list didn't include it when Surya Bonaly refused to get on the podium after she got only a silver medal in one competition. First it took ages before the judges managed to get her to stand on the podium, then she took her silver medal off right after it was put on her neck and refused to wear it. Very poor sportsmanship there. The only time I've seen an athlete behave worse than that was when a 100 sprinter refused to accept that he had been disqualified because of a false start. I don't remember his name anymore but he lied down on the track, apparently with the idea that he wouldn't move until he is accepted back into the competition. I think in the end he walked away himself though and didn't have to be carried like a baby who's having a tantrum.
Team USA’s baffling decision… there are many other decisions that should be named here. 2018 taking Adam Rippon instead of Ross Minor for starters. You’re pronouncing Nagasu incorrectly. The “last laugh” that you say Mirai got over Ashley, being the first American woman to land a triple axel, the clip you showed was a double axel.
Interestingly enough, you didn't mention, why Sasha Trusova had a meltdown. She performed with 5 quad jumps which is hard for men, and she broke all the barriers by doing it as a female. But the judges placed her under Anna Scherbakova. What a disgrace for sport :(.
I remember seeing the "aboriginal" dance during the 2010 Olympics, I remember how the atmosphere just dropped, there was no joy in the audience as the routine went on. The routine pretty much cost the Russians the gold and almost didn't get the bronze as the scores from that insulting dance tanked their placements
Exactly, she was judged very strictly, however the same time Sherbakova was incredibly overscored for bad quality performance and was unfair put 1st. Trusova is auskautet and she saw very good which low quality of jumps Sherbakova had and which incredibly high GEO she got for jumps which she performed much worse then Trusova. Trusova did 5 quads, Sherbakova got super high GEO for her 3,25 flutz. That is why Trusova felt she was abused. Trusova was not supported by Tutberidze because she changed her Hrustalniy to Plushenko Academy.
My mom knew was a competitive figure skater, and Tonya Harding casually; they practiced at the same rink as kids, though a slight age difference meant that they were never in the same classes. Apparently even back then, everybody knew about Tonya’s horrific home life, but nobody bothered to do anything, and the cracks in her young psyche were already starting to show. I (obviously!) don’t condone what she did, but hearing the story from a different perspective makes it more heartbreaking than outraging. I always wonder what Tonya could have accomplished if she had had the love and care she needed; she’s still the first woman to land that triple axel, after all! So, so sad.
This sport is absolutely disgraceful, and I'm sure many other figure skaters, of any background and position in this 'communuty' can agree that the positions of judges and elitists bleed their malarkey and excuses when rewarding athletes in bias or discrimination.
Why are Harley Windsor and Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya not listed here? The poor woman was dropped on her head multiple times, leading to a diagnosis of epilepsy which forced her to retire from skating leading to her depression and finally her suicide. Absolutely heartbreaking. And yet falls that merely caused skaters to fall out of medal contention are listed here and a woman who lost her life is not. Disgraceful.
How can you omit Surya Bonaly's extremely unprofessional behavior during the 1998 Worlds Championship when she lost to the far more artistic and clean performance of Yuka Sato? Ms. Bonaly's juvenile behavior was absolutely uncalled for and the crowd rightfully booed her for refusing to graciously accept her silver medal finish. Another controversial outcome was the 1994 Olympic loss of Torville and Dean. The 1984 Gold medal winners returned to the Olympic competition and skated a far more impressive routine than their younger Russian rivals.
Nothing about insecurity - they thought they were protecting 'frail' women by preventing them from participating in athletics (after all, men didn't take giving birth into account), not to mention they women had show ankle in order for anyone to see what they were doing - scandalous! lol Seriously, though, it's been ingrained for generations, thus the importance of Title IX for all girls and women!
Plushenko should have been happy with the silver in my opinion. There were only a few moments when his choreography had some connection to the music. He had been an amazing jumper before, but in 2010 even his jumps were a bit shaky, so the magic of his skating was gone. The last time I enjoyed a program from him in competition was at the 2006 European Championships. Even though he was ill there, he put 110% into his performance, and his energy just carried the program. To me at the Olympics in the same year it seemed like he knew he would win the gold unless he fell ten times, so the passion wasn't there like a month earlier. In 2010 out of the three medalists the only one who belonged on the podium was Daisuke Takahashi, and even with the fall in the quad, I would have given him the gold. He had the full package: difficult jumps, spins, amazing step sequences, a real relationship with the music from start to finish, a breathtaking performance. Lysacek was technically wonderful, and I don't think a lack of quads should make someone unworthy of the gold medal, but he was so unbelievably boring. An Olympic champion performance should be memorable in an artistic sport like figure skating. Takahashi's Eye and La Strada are unforgettable for both the technical content and even more his artistry.
Surya Bonaly won medals people should quit posting falsehood she didn't. She won with teammates World championship in women's tumbling a gold medal in 1988 as gymnast. Women's figure skating singles: Jr. Championship 1989 Bronze, 1990 Silver, 1991 Gold. Worlds Championship Silver 1993, 1994, 1995 European championship Gold 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995. and 1996 silver.
The Surya Bonaly situation was just plain racial b.s.: they didn't like that she was black, wasn't "delicate and petite" and could do things NO ONE ELSE COULD DO. She is one of THE BEST to ever do it, period!!!!
Scott Hamilton wasn't allowed to do backflips either. It had been illegal for years. It wasn't made illegal to punish her. Now, the punishment of non-princessy/athletic skaters is a whole other Oprah where we can include Midori Ito and Tonya.
"...people of all gender identities are allowed to compete..." 😒 "Woman" and "man" are sexes, not "gender identities. Skating categories have nothing to do with so-called "gender identities". If you're going to make a video about figure skating, could we please have it without the third-rate philosophy and the identity politics? Thanks.
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backflip i thought it was amazing
You can definitely tell that this was written by people who aren’t really invested in figure skating. Team Tutberidze and their straight up abuse of little girls has been a point of contention in the community for years and ultimately culminated in the Kamila Valieva scandal. On top of that, the blatant favouritism of Russian skaters has caused them to get far higher scores than their competitors who are typically underscored despite being as good or better. This I would argue is the biggest issue in skating right now but I also recognise that this list isn’t meant for us fans, it’s meant for people who know nothing but the headlines. But I do think that more people need to know about this beyond our little community
Liza's fan here. Not Russian skaters, but Tutberidze's skaters.
“Their competitors being good or better…. “
No one’s even close to them😂😂 No ultra-Cs in the world championship without Russian ladies🙄🙄
Even their haters admit that))) There’s a channel by a “former competitive skater Eric” who makes hourly videos about how Russian girls are overscored, have something wrong with their technique, etc. and even he admitted that Tutberidze girls are the strongest ones. And then went on putting them down again 😂😂 I bet most of his viewers didn’t even notice that he said that and only remember the negativity.
In her most recent interview Medvedeva was asked about her relationship with Eteri.
-Is it producer/star kind of relationship?
Zhenya: No, it’s relationship based on love.
Here’s everything one needs to know about the so called abuse in team Tutberidze.
Stop telling lies.
I can send you a link for an interview, if you like, but it’s in Russian.
These people do videos on many topics they have limited knowledge of would cost too much money to hire an expert in each field.
Blatant favoritism? Look at the female figure skating now. Do you even watch the competition last 2 years? I bet you don't.
The Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan scandal has to be one of the biggest controversial topics in ice skating history!
Not just figure skating history, probably all of sports history too
@@jeremyherberich2087, I agree
if tonya was so good like she claimed why she had a hit on nancy she is a poor sport who is insecure shame on tonya
Surya knew that they would never award her a medal no matter how well she skated... She did her own thing and she has my full respect.
And the whole time they were commenting on her body shape and everything. But she was pure power on the skates.
I'm always bafled, by this comments, she won 5 consecutive gold medal from the European Championships and 3 silver from the World Championships. In Nagano she arrived with an injury, so she couldn't perform the way she wanted, and after the 6th place in the sort she knew she doesn't have a chance to the medal so she performed a backflip.
She had to deal with a lot of things in the background, but she was very successful. To insinuate, like that she never won anything is misleading.
had she ever skated well, she would have had just as good a chance as anyone else to win a medal..
@@SonOfAGun1814 She did skate well many times. I just think the judges did not like her style of skating, which was mainly technical, and athletic rather than more artistic and graceful, which is what the judges preferred back then.
@@curtisdalrymple42 when did she 'skate' well? to skate well one must have good basic skating skills. please link any video in which she 'skated' well? she was known for being athletic, but even her jumps lacked correct technique which she never corrected the duration of her career. i'm very excited to see this new video you know of where she skated well, please show me straight away.
Not gonna lie, bit disappointed about how you phrased the 2014 Sochi result! Many ex Olympians & other skaters looked at Sotnikovas score & her performance (which was FULL OF ERRORS) & the execution marks which just didn't match up. You made it sound as though it was just disappointed fans
Sotnikova's performance was not full of errors. It lacked grace and finesse but the jumps were all strong and the spins were fast and inventive and better than Yuna Kim's. Yuna's quality of skating skills was much better though.
It's an 11 minute video. If you want a deep dive into a specific incident, watch a specific video about it. Watchmojo runs through topics quick.
@@Salazarsalsa I personally would be satisfied with a simple statement of "The judging calls were questionable." It would take less than 5 seconds and make it seem more than some fans complaining for no reason.
@t , прыжки, вращение и компоненты у Сотниковой были сильнее и лучше. Юна Ким сама сказала, что была меньше технически готова к Сочи, чем к Ванкуверу. Кроме того, если бы Липницкая не упала, она бы 100% получила первое место, а не Юна Ким.
@@deirdrekiely6187 the jumps had HORRIBLE technique what are you on ?
Surya Bonaly seems like someone that skates to make people happy, not just for medals. Kudos to her for that!
She is also an incredibly nice person!
For real 😮
I remember watching that performance as a kid and being puzzled why she didn't win since it was clearly the hardest move.
Sure! She was not good enough to win, so…
Figure skating is a judged sport. Any sport that's judged will never be 100% fair.
I think the Valieva doping scandal, combined with team Tutberidze's collective meltdown after the FS, was way worse than the judging scandal of 2002. Not only are we talking about the abuse of teenage girls, but also that scandal resulted in the skaters STILL not having received their medals for the team event. I just feel like ethically this year's scandal was way worse.
I totally agree the 2021-2022 season was a mess and it is one of the biggest scandals of skating
Yes they abused those young girls.
ethically it may be worse but the 2002 scandal led to a complete overhaul of the judging system for the sport, so it's had a much larger effect on the sport.
That was an ugly moment of 2022. I have to admit that seeing the harsh treatment of the Russian girls is what made the bronze medal of 21 year-old Kaori Sakamoto the saving grace of the competition. And with a program that opened with "I love being a woman."
@@clairecorin5684 Kamillas doping lead to the age change for senior women, making it so that women have to be 17 instead of 15 for senior, that’s gonna have a pretty big effect on the sport.
Little bit of a failure with covering the Sochi judging scandal. It wasn't surprising because judging is subjective, it was controversial because Sotnikova was filmed hugging members of the judging panel after the free skate.
Но программа у нее была лучше технически, чем у Ким по прыжкам и компонентам. Сама Юна Ким сказала, что не была готова так, как к Олимпиаде в Ванкувере.
@@Алеся-я2б But even if we operate under the, admittedly false, premise that it was accidental exposure, other instances of this with adult and non russian figure skaters ended with them not being able to compete. US pairs skater Calalang had makeup that was contaminated and it took her 8 MONTHS to get the doping charge overturned, she missed major competitions because of this. Kamilla gets off with no punishment and still gets to compete though?
Are you also conveniently forgetting that Russia is being sanctioned for state sponsored doping programs?
@@Алеся-я2б Her skating doesn't deserve any medals, sorry. Maybe bronze? Even Koster was better than her.
Not only that, but FS judging is NOT entirely subjective. Jumps have rules, and when a skater has clearly used a wrong edge or landed on both feet or underrotated a jump but doesn't receive any deductions for it, in fact they receive a high GOE, while someone else gets deductions for these same mistakes, something is definitely fishy there.
I'm a Mirai fan and it was NOT obvious she should go in 2014. It was Mirai's ONLY good performance the entire year, whereas Ashley had performed well all year. However, Mirai was the right choice over Ashley in 2018, as she had the performances. Right choices made both times!
It wasn’t Mirai who was chosen over Ashley in 2018 though, it was Karen.
@@EvaSofie Yes, skating fans know this, not the casual viewer.
I remember seeing Surya Bonaly's backflip. That was crazy!
I feel like Tutberidze-gate deserved at least 2. It brought to light a lot of abusive coaching practices.
Her former student Evgenia Medvedeva has permanent spine injuries that present her from turning a certain way. Yulia Lipnitskaya was praised for disordered eating and had to check in a hospital following retirement. Not to mention all these girls burn out under the age of 20.
What about other coaches? Are they angels? It’s just jealousy.
What age did Alysa Liu retired from tournaments? (17). How old was Medvedeva when she tried to participate in Russian champ? (20). Did Eteri have anything to do with Lipnitskaya eating disorder? (Since Yulia is her only student who got this, the answer is - Nothing at all)
@@ilb473 medvedeva too had a eating disorder … Anna only eats 2 shrimps a day ….
@@KiffiStinkt you're their doctor? Or parent?
In her most recent interview Medvedeva was asked about her relationship with Eteri.
-Is it producer/star kind of relationship?
Zhenya: No, it’s relationship based on love.
Here’s everything one needs to know about the so called abuse in team Tutberidze.
Stop telling lies.
I can send you a link for an interview, if you like, but it’s in Russian.
Yuna Kim definitely deserved that gold medal at Sochi 2014
This happened around 2007. Michelle Kwan, Kristi Yamaguchi and Sasha Cohen, due to endorsement deals, were taken to a jewelry store and told that they could have anything that they wanted. The three women, proving what class acts that they are, chose identical watches. Respect.
Might not have wanted to pay high gift taxes on them, although there are also expensive watches. Some games show winners find out taxes cost them more than they can sell the things for although sometimes they get a lower amount in check instead of taking the prize.
Lovely little tid bit they love to leave out about the Tonya Harding scandal is Tonya was trying to leave her husband (the one who orchestrated the attack) who was in all ways abusive & the ISU said if she did that she would not go to the Olympics because that wouldn't fit the picture perfect image of a skater. Whilst I don't doubt Tonya had faults, I hate how people act like Nancy was such an angel. Her bad sportsmanship towards oskanna (the gold medalist) shows that!
Agreed.
Harding's former husband is Jeff Gillooly (rhymes with "chop suey"). Gillooly changed his name to Jeff Stone after his release from prison in 1995. He also shaved off his famous mustache and took a job as a used car salesman.
It’s Oksana *** but thank you for mentioning her atleast ! ❤️
Totally agree. And it was also because Nancy got a medical bye for the 1994 Olympics that she took what would have been Michelle Kwan's spot at the Olympics.
@@elinzme Thus, Kwan was designated as the alternate entry.
Midori Ito of Japan was first woman in the world to do a triple axel in competition. Tonya Harding first American woman but 2nd in the world to.
Completely expected number one .I'm surprised you didn't mention Morgan Cipres
Kristi Yamaguchi winning World and Olympic, and being staggeringly uncelebrated, reportedly because of her Japanese extraction.
The Duschesnays doing a brilliant (cultural appropriation) long routine and short programme and being marked down because ending up lying on the ice was counted as falling down even though it obviously wasn't. Next year, almost every ice dance team were lying on the ice without penalty.
_Her Japanese ancestry_ or _her ethnic Japanese descent_ . It is not an "extraction".
I know of no incident of Yamaguchi's athletic accomplishments being ignored. However, I do remember a controversy in 1998 where MSNBC apologized for a headline that seemed to suggest figure skater Michelle Kwan was not an American. Asian-American groups were taken aback by the headline, _American Beats Out Kwan_ , saying it suggests a reluctance to acknowledge that they are United States citizens.
"It's an error for which they apologize," said Sandra Michioku, executive director of the Asian American Journalists Association, "but it still showed an insensitivity and encourages the stereotype of Asian Americans as foreigners. Anyone who knows Michelle Kwan knows she is an American."
"This is a basic headline error, and we are sorry and we will be sure this doesn't happen again," Merrill Brown, editor in chief of MSNBC said.
MSNBC Executive Sports Editor Edmundo Macedo said the headline was one of two, the first of which said something to the effect that Tara Lipinski had won the gold medal in the women's figure-skating final. A sports producer chose "American Beats Kwan" for the second headline to avoid repeating Lipinski's name. "Obviously, it was not a good headline," Macedo said. The headlines ran as a marquee, scrolling across the site's main page shortly after Lipinski clinched the medal around 4 or 5 a.m. Pacific Time Feb. 20. The headline ran for no more than 15 minutes but went out to 85,000 subscribers of the site's News Alert service. MSNBC has since taken steps to make sure headlines are checked by a second staffer before being posted, the editors said. The site also posted an apology for the headline, which it said "may have been interpreted" to say Kwan, who is of Chinese descent, is not American.
@@RaymondHng My bad re the 'extraction' terminology; as to the overlooking of her: Watching from Britain cf the athletes' home, I don't recall Yamaguchi getting as much coverage/promotion as Harding and Kerrigan did even before 'the incident'
@@bheast86 Being from the same state as Nancy Kerrigan I can tell you that Nancy only got coverage because of the Tonya scandal. Kristi Yamaguchi is well-respected in America and a lot of young skaters looked up to her.
@@deirdrekiely6187 I would give Kerrigan credit for the 'I'm going to Disneyland' meme.
Though hype isn't necessarily a good thing, Yamaguchi deserved more of it, and one would normally expect an American success story to get it in the English-speaking world, as well a lot of irrelevant guff regarding her staggering good looks, such as Katarina Witt received, even though she was on 'the other side'
Kristi Yamaguchi is well known also won on Dancing with the stars. Has appeared in ads with Michelle Kwan years later.
Sotnikova winning Gold was weirdly the worst thing that ever happened for her career. She never replicated that same success again and no one really respects her as a gold medalist.
Глупости, золото Сотникова получила заслуженно!! Ее программа была артистичней и техничней, сложней, чем у Юны Ким. Обе делали небольшие ошибки. Но, как сказала сама Юна Ким, она к Олимпиаде в Сочи была готова меньше, чем к Ванкуверу.
@@Алеся-я2б absolutely no one in Russia agrees with this. Sotnikova made too many mistakes. And her skating skills are no where near Yuna's. 🤷
@@Алеся-я2бKeep dreaming, only people that not know about figure skating would believe what you wrote.
Yuna's stolen gold should have been higher on the list
USFSA has it in their rules that they have to look at competition history in order to name the Olympic team. They're not going to name someone based on one good competition. They left Ross Miner off the team in 2018 and Ilia Malinin in 2022 despite both winning 2nd. Mirai was having some growing pains and her competition history was erratic before 2014 and came to nationals without a coach which didn't help.
Some of the lesser known rules:
Zayak rule - a skater can do a certain jump a certain of times; for example, the tripe toe jump can only be performed 3 times.
Zagitova rule - in figure skating, if jumps are performed in the second half of the program they get a bonus. Since at the 2018 Olympics, Alina Zagitova “backloaded” her program to where all of her jumps are in the second half of the program, this rule was implemented so the jumps are more spread out.
Was the backloading from Zagitova or Medvedeva? I remember that being Zhenya's thing and people referencing that rule as the Medvedeva rule
@@alyssariceYT I thought it was Zagitova, because Medvedeva, at the 2018 Olympics at least, her jumps were spread out more than Zagitova
@@scottibrown3274 they both had the same coach, so it's absolutely possible they both did it and some people just remember the rule's colloquial name differently!
@@alyssariceYT that is possible too, it should most likely be called the Eteri rule. Honestly, after the whole Kamila Valieva scandal at the 2022 Olympics, Eteri shouldn’t be coaching at all in my opinion.
@@scottibrown3274 oh absolutely not. I've disliked her since Yulia's treatment at the 2014 Olympics
Backflip on one blade she ate the competition and they were madddddd
Backflips were banded and they banded events in gymnastics also as to many people injured from them. If you want to win follow the current rules.
Harding and Kerrigan TIRED of that. Kerrigan is NOT the nice girl and victim she portrayed herself to be. (degrading and derogatory remarks for Oksana Baiul because SHE, Kerrigan, did not win the title, bad sportsmanship, etc. ..just to name a couple of her lovely character traits...) Harding is worse. No love lost for either of them.
Tonya Harding might be worse than Nancy but not as bad as her brother Mark that choked their father and he died.
I know that they practiced constantly on ice, but those skaters glide so beautifully and easy. Again, I know that it takes years and years of practice.
So tired of Tonya Harding talking about that triple axel. You're a monster.
I love the female French skater. I saw her in Detroit before the Olympics. She did a back flip. Debbie Thomas was an African American skater who we hear nothing about. I wonder why.
Debi Thomas was diagnosed with bipolar disorder by April 2012. In November 2015, it was reported that she was living in a bed bug-infested trailer in the Appalachian mountains with her fiancé who was struggling with anger and alcohol issues. Thomas stated that she was "broke", having lost most of her savings through her two divorces and failed medical practice, and had lost custody of her son when he was 13. She was featured in the November 7, 2015, episode of the television series _Iyanla: Fix My Life_ on the Oprah Winfrey Network. Thomas and fiancé Jamie Looney now live with Looney's two sons, Ethan and Austin, in southwest Virginia.
Because people want to erase Debi because of her personal problems. I'll never forget her. She's still the first black athlete to medal at the Winter Games!
@@etherealtb6021 The first black athlete to win any medal at the Winter Olympics. And first black World Figure Skating Champion in 1986.
@@RaymondHng Yes, they can't take that away from her, no matter what they think if her personal life!
@@etherealtb6021 People do NOT want to erase Debi. They want her to accept help for her mental health issues help but she refuses to deal with her problems. Her kids were taken away from her and she continues to live in poverty in a dirty trailer pitching karat bars (an "alternative currency"). It's a shame because she would be in HIGH demand as a coach (and could make a small fortune) but she wants nothing to do with figure skating.
Tonya Hardings triple axel are out of this world and that’s on period sis defined gravity
so white.
@@alazjaw.8968 Magazine made Tonya look lighter before another made O.J. Simpson look darker.
Kamila V and the Eteri abuse on the Russian team was heartbreaking to watch. Only 15 years old…she was a child and should have been protected!
❤Surya! ❤Sasha! ❤Tonya! Scandals or not, they are some of my all time favorites!
pcs scores
zhou's under-rotations
davis/smolkin getting silver over khudaiberdieva/bazin in 2022 rusnats
anything team tutberidze or eteri in general
who the fuck cares
Talks about Mirai landing the 3A (triple axel) at the Olympics, and uses footage of her 2A combination jump. 6:41
I cannot stand hearing the Harding/Kerrigan buisness without ANY MENTION of the 16 yr old Ukrainian orphan Oksana Baiul who BEAT Kerrigan against all odds and after being slammed into during the pre-skate..
« With some snarky remarks towards the winner » PFFFFFTT her name is Oksana !!!!!!!!
Rant over, very proud to be named after Oksana not Nancy or Tonya
Oksana collided with German ladies singles champion Tanja Swewczenko. It was an accident I doubt either intended it to happen. She finished 6th at the Olympics and 3rd at worlds.
I'm surprised that the list didn't include it when Surya Bonaly refused to get on the podium after she got only a silver medal in one competition. First it took ages before the judges managed to get her to stand on the podium, then she took her silver medal off right after it was put on her neck and refused to wear it. Very poor sportsmanship there.
The only time I've seen an athlete behave worse than that was when a 100 sprinter refused to accept that he had been disqualified because of a false start. I don't remember his name anymore but he lied down on the track, apparently with the idea that he wouldn't move until he is accepted back into the competition. I think in the end he walked away himself though and didn't have to be carried like a baby who's having a tantrum.
She received medal in 1988 gold for Tumbling, gold at European championship 5 times and silver once and I listed others in comments.
Team USA’s baffling decision… there are many other decisions that should be named here. 2018 taking Adam Rippon instead of Ross Minor for starters. You’re pronouncing Nagasu incorrectly. The “last laugh” that you say Mirai got over Ashley, being the first American woman to land a triple axel, the clip you showed was a double axel.
Tonya Harding was first American Woman to land triple axel in competition, first in world was Midori Ito of Japan.
The whole platinum medal thing was so pathetic that I laughed.
I just love the difference in the narrative between moment 9 and 8, expectable though...
that opening has me baffled
Berezhnaya/Sikhaurlidze 1000% deserved that gold medal, Salé/Pelletier's skating was NOWHERE near the quality of the Russians, that's just facts
Another scandal would be under the Katarina rule when an Arabic skater wore a hijab and was deducted points because of it. 0:35
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You should've shown MIrai's actual historic 3A, not 2A-3T-2T
Interestingly enough, you didn't mention, why Sasha Trusova had a meltdown. She performed with 5 quad jumps which is hard for men, and she broke all the barriers by doing it as a female. But the judges placed her under Anna Scherbakova. What a disgrace for sport :(.
give the queen her gold
Surya got gold in 1988 tumbling, European ladies single skating 5 times Jr. Worlds once you like to complain without researching it.
I remember seeing the "aboriginal" dance during the 2010 Olympics, I remember how the atmosphere just dropped, there was no joy in the audience as the routine went on. The routine pretty much cost the Russians the gold and almost didn't get the bronze as the scores from that insulting dance tanked their placements
trusova wasn’t a meltdown she was reacting after the abuse
Exactly, she was judged very strictly, however the same time Sherbakova was incredibly overscored for bad quality performance and was unfair put 1st. Trusova is auskautet and she saw very good which low quality of jumps Sherbakova had and which incredibly high GEO she got for jumps which she performed much worse then Trusova.
Trusova did 5 quads, Sherbakova got super high GEO for her 3,25 flutz. That is why Trusova felt she was abused.
Trusova was not supported by Tutberidze because she changed her Hrustalniy to Plushenko Academy.
that's just biased
My mom knew was a competitive figure skater, and Tonya Harding casually; they practiced at the same rink as kids, though a slight age difference meant that they were never in the same classes. Apparently even back then, everybody knew about Tonya’s horrific home life, but nobody bothered to do anything, and the cracks in her young psyche were already starting to show. I (obviously!) don’t condone what she did, but hearing the story from a different perspective makes it more heartbreaking than outraging. I always wonder what Tonya could have accomplished if she had had the love and care she needed; she’s still the first woman to land that triple axel, after all! So, so sad.
Nancy's family had a screwed up home also her brother Mark choked their father and he died.
She seems to be really talented. I'm sad that it is all ended this way.
I love skaters costumes though….
Where's Kerrigan/ Baiul? Where's using Tara Lipinski and John Wier as judges?
The creators of this video are clearly not figure skating stans:)
Tara and Johnny are commentators, not judges.
So far as I knew Tara Lipinski and John Weir were commentators, not judges.
This sport is absolutely disgraceful, and I'm sure many other figure skaters, of any background and position in this 'communuty' can agree that the positions of judges and elitists bleed their malarkey and excuses when rewarding athletes in bias or discrimination.
I love Katarina's outfit!
Why are Harley Windsor and Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya not listed here? The poor woman was dropped on her head multiple times, leading to a diagnosis of epilepsy which forced her to retire from skating leading to her depression and finally her suicide. Absolutely heartbreaking. And yet falls that merely caused skaters to fall out of medal contention are listed here and a woman who lost her life is not. Disgraceful.
Good video Ms MOJO is a good channel 👌 👍 😀 👏 😊
Queen Yuna 2nd gold medal 🥇 was stolen
Doping in the Beijing Olympics and the team medals 🏅 has yet to be awarded until the case is settled
The attack on Nancy Kerrigan
キムヨナのジャンプ構成ならソチの金メダルは無理。それに2009〜2010は彼女だけが異常な高得点貰ってた過去が１番のスキャンダルでしょう。その頃だけSAMSUNGがISUのメインサポーターだしね。
Сюда надо было добавить про Загитову и Медведеву, Юдзуру Ханю и Тоню Хардинг.
Almost thought her name was Jasmine
Most disgusting thing is that people made a movie about Tonya Harding as she was some kind of a innocent victim. I feel sorry for Nancy.
PLEASE find out how to pronounce names you’ve never heard!!!
That is controversy #11.
Siria of France was my favourite
Bonaly was a badass.
How can you omit Surya Bonaly's extremely unprofessional behavior during the 1998 Worlds Championship when she lost to the far more artistic and clean performance of Yuka Sato? Ms. Bonaly's juvenile behavior was absolutely uncalled for and the crowd rightfully booed her for refusing to graciously accept her silver medal finish. Another controversial outcome was the 1994 Olympic loss of Torville and Dean. The 1984 Gold medal winners returned to the Olympic competition and skated a far more impressive routine than their younger Russian rivals.
I love figure skating as for Tonya and Nancy I think that Tonya was the better person
French judging scandal
That was a cool backflip
Pair figure skater Ekaterina Alexandrokaya died in 2020 there is a video about it.
Some People Just Like Cheating
What about the 1994 Olympics ice dancing competition?
Tonya and Nancy's was the OG east coast vs West Coast
I wonder if Russia forced their athletes to get doped?
What do you expect in Russia. They had her couch giving them to these 15 year old girls. It's awful.
lmao@ ban women from competing? Wow those males were insecure.
Nothing about insecurity - they thought they were protecting 'frail' women by preventing them from participating in athletics (after all, men didn't take giving birth into account), not to mention they women had show ankle in order for anyone to see what they were doing - scandalous! lol Seriously, though, it's been ingrained for generations, thus the importance of Title IX for all girls and women!
What about Golf lol that isn't a frail sport
I have never heard of any of the aboriginal leaders mentioned in this video.
The Tonya/Nancy thing is what would happen if Vince Russo booked figure skating
I mean you're not wrong
RIP sotnikova you are the one biggest mistake OLYMPIC CHAMPION
Sotnikova is not dead. She is alive, well, and long retired from figure skating.
What if you have to be on medication for a medical emergency painful injuries.
Sotnikova is just a joke
Plushenko should have been happy with the silver in my opinion. There were only a few moments when his choreography had some connection to the music. He had been an amazing jumper before, but in 2010 even his jumps were a bit shaky, so the magic of his skating was gone. The last time I enjoyed a program from him in competition was at the 2006 European Championships. Even though he was ill there, he put 110% into his performance, and his energy just carried the program. To me at the Olympics in the same year it seemed like he knew he would win the gold unless he fell ten times, so the passion wasn't there like a month earlier. In 2010 out of the three medalists the only one who belonged on the podium was Daisuke Takahashi, and even with the fall in the quad, I would have given him the gold. He had the full package: difficult jumps, spins, amazing step sequences, a real relationship with the music from start to finish, a breathtaking performance. Lysacek was technically wonderful, and I don't think a lack of quads should make someone unworthy of the gold medal, but he was so unbelievably boring. An Olympic champion performance should be memorable in an artistic sport like figure skating. Takahashi's Eye and La Strada are unforgettable for both the technical content and even more his artistry.
Surya Bonaly won medals people should quit posting falsehood she didn't. She won with teammates World championship in women's tumbling a gold medal in 1988 as gymnast. Women's figure skating singles: Jr. Championship 1989 Bronze, 1990 Silver, 1991 Gold. Worlds Championship Silver 1993, 1994, 1995 European championship Gold 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995. and 1996 silver.
I have Nancy Kerrigan Trading cards complete in box they are pretty cool
The Surya Bonaly situation was just plain racial b.s.: they didn't like that she was black, wasn't "delicate and petite" and could do things NO ONE ELSE COULD DO. She is one of THE BEST to ever do it, period!!!!
it wasn't really, same as Plushenko, jumps dont gives you victory, anyone with basic skating knowledge knows that
I have more than basic skating knowledge, so don’t be dismissive of my comment just because you want to be a know it all. And I stand by what I said.
Scott Hamilton wasn't allowed to do backflips either. It had been illegal for years. It wasn't made illegal to punish her.
Now, the punishment of non-princessy/athletic skaters is a whole other Oprah where we can include Midori Ito and Tonya.
@@brickcitybrownchick he's a clear example of what a know-it-all is, don't waste your time on that shit
Sasha Trusova could do things no one else could do and she still didn’t win gold. She was a good skater but not the best.
#6 has nothing to do with gender identity. It has to do with males only competition, sex not gender.
I remember the aboriginal program
When Tonya Harding hired her husband to hit Nancy Kerrigan in the knee!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonya did not hire anyone her husband did. Tonya was only convicted of hindering investigation after the fact.
Shane Stant hit Nancy Kerrigan not her husband.
He’s PlUschenko)))) the first syllable is stressed.
So it starts with racism even before the list
Tonga harding should not have been banned.
yes she should have
@@alazjaw.8968 No one named Tonga Harding was banned.
No one named Tonga Harding was banned.
@@alazjaw.8968 Tonya Harding was banned not Tonga Harding whoever that is.
@@hydrolito good either way.
I agree with most of the events picked for the list, but the Adelina sotnikova scandal should’ve placed #2!
The Kamila Valieva scandal should be number one.
Bev Manton certainly looks like an Aboriginal authority. Nothin wrong with what the Russian skaters did.
Watch Mojo meets The View
"...people of all gender identities are allowed to compete..." 😒
"Woman" and "man" are sexes, not "gender identities. Skating categories have nothing to do with so-called "gender identities". If you're going to make a video about figure skating, could we please have it without the third-rate philosophy and the identity politics? Thanks.
Gender identity never prevented anyone from skating just had to skate as actual gender not made-up nonsense.
If you can execute a backflip on ice skates you should be banned. Sports are for the athletic, not the supernatural.
Such bull! The Russians skated better that the whiney Canadians. Also, the Moari-style costume was FINE; people who complained were just moronic.
WTF Russia???
Cheaters!
😯
Offensive costumes? What a bull of crap
Another racist TRIGERRED
The Russians skated BETTER!