Eteri is a great coach of great Russia. If someone needs Plushenko, you can take it. We will pay you extra for this))))) Sasha Trusova has no more jumps left while she trains with him. Alena Kostornaya will soon end her career.
@@lzbhcvm6747 you know what’s weird? My brother, in his 50s now, moved from the USA to Russia and he thinks this too. Everything is the best there, no homeless, very clean, low covid numbers. It’s weird!
I’m Russian and I want to remind everyone about the existence of such an amazing skater as Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. her career outlived Julia, Evgenia, Alina, Alyona and so on. Is it a coincidence that the only uninjured Russian figure skater who has been skating brilliantly for more than 10 years is not from the Tutberidze team? I don't think so (I hope my English is understandable🥺👉🏻👈🏻)
@@lunix3259 Elizaveta was robbed. It was down to her and Anna to go to Beijing 2022 and the judges basically had already decided to send Anna by giving her unfair scores.
Wow, watching this after watching Kamila Valieva skate at the Olympics, and she also trains with Eteri. Honestly makes so much sense because I always wonder every Olympics what happened to the other Russians that won gold.
also can i add that brian orser seems like one of the only coaches who isn’t a total psycho and he actually cares for his students beyond their athletic skills... and he doesn’t shade literal children on social media???? idc stan brian x
Yep, Orser's team are all drama free kids from Yuna, Hanyu, and Fernandez. So I can imagine how stress free they are from their coach which is essential for young adults.
@@izzy156 These are NOT my words but from Reddit where people explained it like this: ”Basically, Brian said there was tension caused by Yuna's mom (possibly related to a false rumor that Brian was set to coach Yuna's main rival, Mao Asada), but he wanted to keep coaching her. He said they told him he would no longer be coaching Yuna Kim rather unceremoniously one morning, and as such his team stopped coaching her. Yuna's mom released her own statement saying something about this being temporary and that Yuna would be back. When Brian wouldn't take her back, Yuna/her mom started saying he was lying. It sounds like Yuna herself didn't have much of a say for herself and stayed out of the drama. There's a lot of really crazy stuff that happened in the back-and-forth between the two, but who knows. You can find a lot of good information about that part of it from articles when the split happened. IIRC Phil Hersh linked to a few articles about it around the time of the Eteri-Medvedeva split. Rumor also has it that this is why Brian has since taken a pretty strict policy against known crazy or stage parents. More specifically, this is said to be why Nam Nguyen and Elizaveta Tursynbaeva left. I can't remember who, but there were a few skaters he has been rumored to have refused due to crazy skating parents. Of course, Brian Orser being Brian Orser he won't confirm/deny any of these crazy parent rumors. Another angle is this: Korea's skating federation wanted Yuna to keep competing and skating after Vancouver, but Yuna herself didn't want to. She's said vague statements to this effect since and others involved in skating (including some on TV) said she "didn't have her heart in it," "was hesitant to compete," "didn't want the attention," "didn't like competing," "was satisfied with the modeling and TV work," etc. after winning gold. So it's possible that she herself initiated the split because it was a good way to cut back on her training or otherwise prepare for retirement, only to be forced back into competition for Sochi.”
What is great?! She just sits accuses Eteri with all the shity gossip, she was paid by Plushenko nothing more, as you won't find any neural opinion but just accusing Eteri.
@@Agniya_M Paid by Plush? 😂 Come on, she's just one of the FS fans. This is great as it's well-researched and well-edited video regarding the FS drama.
No one can take away Midori's achievement, so I think this was just an unfortunate use of words but not with the intention of undermining her and demeriting her work
Lbh here, there is some racism that played in those words. Asian representation is already so little outside of Asia in majority, if not, all of the world that to undermine Midori Ito as a figure skating enthusiast is really nothing short of brushing off achievements by Asians. I don't remember this yter doing the same to any other athlete she's mentioned? I could be wrong, I don't remember. That comment that was made rubs the wrong way
It was definitely a put down of Midori Ito one of the best skater of all times. Why will we remember these Russian children in 30 years? Because of their amazing careers or because of the child abuse sanctioned by government? It will be like what we remember about Sochi 2014 cheating by government sanctioned doping.
I skated until I was 17 and only got to double jumps, but I still spent my whole childhood in pain, seeing my physiotherapist and chiropractor every week, not being able to go to gym class, wearing tapes everywhere and getting huge bruises on my feet. My back is pretty much recovered but I think my knees will hurt forever, I can’t even begin to imagine the damages those jumps do to these young girls’ health
I experienced the same exact thing, I've skated from age 4-16 years old. Skating really gave me a love and hate relationship, it felt like skating took all my childhood away, when my friends can go out on weekend, I had to practice and practice for hours. I got to land a few triple jumps, but.. all the pain physically and mentally, my childhood, and idk what else I missed while spending my entire childhood for skating.. It must be really hard for this young girls gone through, especially Kamila with the whole world focusing on her
@@cosmari245 i think on top of her eating disorder Yulia just happened to find love and get pregnant that's why she retired , it all made sense in a way ...
Yet no one listened to this wise broadcaster and or the girls. Bodies damaged and careers ruined and they ARE CHILDREN! It’s child abuse pure and simple! I want to send Tonya Harding to kick Eteri’s arse. I’m so mad how these girls have been abused!
The Japanese lady, Midori Ito, the first woman to land a triple triple and triple axel in a competition..still a legend i think even to this day/compared to the squad.
Yes! The equipment and coaching techniques are so much more advanced today than that of Midori’s era. Still amazes me every time I watch her land the triple axel.
@@alisonb9963 I mean you literally just stated more stuff that would be emotionally draining and damaging for them but okay I guess the emotional abuse of children is funny and entertaining /s
Aside from their achievements, he doesn't run his skaters to the ground. You'd think that were the minimum, but after what happened to Yulia and how Alina was treated before and after Pyeongchang, it apparently isn't a requirement for a "great coach." 🤷♀
My favorite coach is actually Mr Smith from Alabama. He's not making any Olympic champions or even state champions but he is really nice bloke, and, behind a point of beer he can tell you a lot of funny stories.
"imagine your friend enjoys figureskating but theyre constantly stressing about some russians" literally never heard of them in my life but im invested
I’m sorry I don’t know the girls names- but it’s sad. The teenage girl who won silver at the Olympics was having a mental breakdown because she did 5 quad jumps and believed she should’ve won. Instead she lost to her more artistic teammate I believe. It’s interesting because your video is a year old, and you saw that the judges preferred the artistic skating over just athleticism.
Poor girl who was upset from winning silver . I know people were harsh on her and called her poor sportsmanship . But like these Russian skaters go through sooooooooo much abuse it’s sad. They have such old and barbaric methods these coaches don’t care about the long term health of these skaters but only care about their health through there competing career . Maybe this Eteri coach makes winners but at what cost? And it’s all over a sport 🙈I think sports are great but competitive careers of most gymnasts and figure skaters are extremely short and in the end are just a small part of there lives in the end and then what???
@@clisaa6974 They get a medal and that’s it. World recognition but at what cost? Eteri’s girls retire by 18 due to medical issues most of the time. Was it worth a medal? I don’t think so personally. It is sad. I think her name is Sasha who won silver. I wish her happiness, she deserves a better coach
@@michellexbeauty9832 Right! Ice skating like gymnastics is a sport with high injury rate and as you said at what cost? It is just not worth it. I watched a video on Evgenia Medevova and was shocked poor girl recently at 22 had to retire cause she screwed up her back badly and can't turn left comfortably or something. It is crazy.( I mean now she is making good money with being a media personality and from sponsorships), but still! it is sad for sure.
Her quads are prerotated and the edges are suspicious… I have trouble considering them true quads. Like when they gave the gold to Sotnikova who had quite literally cheated toe jumps throughout her entire performance
People defending tuberitze under this video and claiming the girls were not victims because they were successful are truly scary, for their enjoyment they will purposely ignore child abuse right in front of their eyes, hunger games style
Have you ever wondered why Tutberidze's students are so successful? Or why Soviet gymnasts were legendary? Some elements they performed even have been banned because of health risks. In a competitive sports, especially such as figure skating, gymnastics, acrobatics, almost nothing is possible without a things that you call a child abuse. These athletes know this, their parents know this, fans know this, coaches know this. If you accept competitive sports than you automatically accept this. Overworking, injuries, health issues for the rest of your life most likely, pressure etc. I'm not defending Tutberidze, I don't care about her. These kids are not victims of anyone, they are athletes, which means they are victims of figure skating. Coach is just a person who helps them to reach hights and the more tough is this coach the more successful they'll be
@@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BBSo , what you are saying that child athletes can agree to the abuse because their parents and coaches (who directly benefit from that abuse) pressure them?
@@phonkearl3581 yeah it kind of perfectly matches the Cold War. USA-> mens and ice dance. Russia -> ladies and pairs. Lmao the two countries even shade each often other in figure skating commentaries.
@@paolala i love your editing and the whole video was so well done !! when i was 5 mins in i checked how many views it had literally expecting it to have 1 mil
It's just a paid video by Plushenko, nothing else than accusing Eteri how bad she is. Only gathered the gossip, has she ever done something worth in her life...
this is a great video! here after Kamila’s 2022 Olympic performance (and positive drug test). Kamila and all of these ladies deserve better. this needs to be talked about more
"I have never seen anything like that in any individual sport." Never watched Rhythmic Gymnastics? It has a 2 per country rule that gives the chance for other countries to get a bronze spot. Russian girls are so awesome, they take top medal positions for decades. Irina Viner (the coach) also has controversal methods, but she has top girls over 20 that are still competing: Ekaterina Selezneva is 25 (World Champion), Anastasia Ilyinichna Bliznyuk is 26 (2 time Olympic Champion), Anastasia Ivanovna Maksimova is 29 (Olympic Champion)!!! The russian ice skating is like Game of Thrones...wow
I think it comes down to technique. Shizuka Arakawa (first Japanese FS Olympic gold medalist) can still jump triples and triple-double combos in ice shows. She's FORTY YEARS OLD. Other Russian coaches have also successfully coached adult FS skaters. Eteri's camp not only has bad technique they also rely on repetition and low body weight making injuries more likely. Iirc one of her students, a 15 year old girl, literally shattered her hips during a comp practice. It's insane.
Thanks a lot for this video! As a Russian, I can confirm that I am fully stressed out by the injustice of the Eteri bonus, crazy media fights and extremely toxic atmosphere. This is why I so admire Elizaveta Tuktamysheva and her coach Alexey Mishin for their rational and calm approach to the skating, with the support and true love instead of abuse and toxic behaviour.
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva is so inspirational. As an American, it is so wonderful seeing a grown Russian woman compete. I wish Canada had granted Evgenia Medvedeva citizenship, so that she did not have to return to Russia to be abused.
I’ve always enjoyed Her Imperial Majesty’s (😉) skating & ITA : It is wonderful to see an actual Russian LADY competing out there. I really loved her FS all the way back in October at Skate Canada. Such a perfect Program for her & was she ever having a blast performing it too!! 😁. I also remember the very first time she came over for Skate Canada. This seemingly adorable precocious little Russian girl getting her feet wet at her first Senior GP Event & doing everything w/the biggest grin on her face. I remember thinking, “She’s got a bright future...” Then she skated & we all went...😱. Hard to believe it was all those years ago & I’ve literally watched her grow up in front of my eyes. I was really pulling for her to finally skate on Olympic Ice, but sadly...We all know the rest. 😪. I’ve been thinking a lot about The Empress the last 2 days & wondering how she must be feeling watching all of this take place. She must also be wondering how many Olympic Teams did she miss a legitimate chance of being on? I know presumed innocence before guilt, but there’s just too much precedence from the last 8 years of how that “Woman” treats her Skaters, plus the too high Marks/GOE, etc, etc, etc... Not that Liza hasn’t had her own issues w/entries on certain jumps, but over time she worked on it &, for the most part, has solid technique now. It’s only when things start really going downhill those old habits creep back in. Even that doesn’t happen as often as it did even a couple of years ago. She keeps on fighting, even when she knows the odds are next to impossible, Liza still keeps fighting & I respect that. I also know this was her last chance to make an Olympic Team more than likely, which is beyond a shame, as well as sad. I hope she comes & skates in Stars on Ice here in Canada one of these days. I’d love to see her skate live. All Hail The Empress!!!! I was hoping Elizaveta would put a rabbit out of a hat & end up making the Team to Beijing, but I also knew the likelihood of that happening was slim to none too.
@@ChienaAvtzon I have been seeing Medvedeva acting in a Russian tv show and attending some entertaining shows recently, where she seemed to have fun. From that I assumed she is enjoying her retirement from skating. And from what I've seen there her and Alina Zagitova are good friends)
We need more coaches like mine. My coach(Igor) was trained by a Olympic coach and became a senior by the time he was 15-16. While living in Russia, he actually new Eteri. Then he moved to the states when he was around 30 to 40 and became a coach for my skating club. He taught group lessons and private lessons. He was kind, and tried his hardest to make us laugh and during tough times. He was also very patient. I am very proud to have him as my coach and as my figure skating best friend.
Unless she discovered a healing elixir, I don't think keeping them young is the issue. She destroys them young after 4 years of overtraining with injuries. So even a 10 year old would be forced to retire at 15, after a senior style of elite competition rounds.
She actually did... it's called Lupron and its supposed to kick-start menopause. Because to her, "girls with smaller bodies are able to compete in elite-level skills more efficiently and easily". That's why the girls retire early
“If not for the covid pandemic, this would not even be a conversation”. This hit me hard. Evgenia deserves better. I feel bad for her. I was really hoping to see Evgenia in the 2021 Russian Nationals. I was really hoping to see Evgenia perform under the direction of Coach Brian Orser. If not for her recurring injuries, Evgenia would be on God-level. Nevertheless, she is still and will always be one of the best skaters in figure skating history.
@@michaelcunningham795 yeah. At first I was very sad she wasn’t able to compete. But as Genia always emphasized, her health and recovery is her priority. I’m looking forward to her long and magnificent career as a skater once she has recovered. :)
@@mariajesseannegloria3026 Hello from Russia. Medvedeva is nothing more than a retired skater, fans love her but nobody believes she can ever be a top skater and rival girls like Anna, Kamila and Sasha.
@@mariajesseannegloria3026 the good thing about zhenya is definitely her strong Will. She really wants to be able to go to Beijing 2022, to the point she even went to orser, despite all the backlash that she took. Mad respect for her. Too bad her talents on ice itself isnt enough to compete in the deep pool of Russian ladies, Now that they push for quads (tho IMO those quads are sus since prerotation and questionable edges from scherbakova and trusova). fixing her jump is very hard now that she's maturing into adulthood. Being able to place 3rd in nats itself is almost impossible IMO unless the quadster mess up a lot. Let alone winning olympic. still wishing the best of her despite all the hard path ahead
So.....for Olympic 2022...Eteri will have Evegnia(if she can make it) the artistic queen, Anna the stable underdog, Kamila the performance master, and Daria the quiet underdog. Then Plushenko has Trusova the quad firecracker, and Alena the graceful swan. The Russians know how to bring the drama but the 2021-2022 season is going to be movie worthy.
@@andreaoliveroskinen9590 I think it’s so interesting that Anna is always counted out, yet has won the Nationals all three years running since she came up from the Juniors.
@@grigol101 Liza is one of my long time favourites and yes she should be included. She is very reliable with her jumps and as she is older she has the maturity that others don’t. I loved her programs. She missed out before and she shouldn’t miss out again.lets hope she makes it. Regards from Aust🇦🇺
Interesting comments. IMO , Tori has nailed it well. IMHO, Zhenya (Medvedeva) has had her day. Aggravated old injuries (and maybe new ones) will keep her off the team. Her move to Orser to learn quads with a mature body late in her career has cost her. Zhenya knew that she would need quads to up her competitive game with the new level brought on by Javie and Yuzuru. So she went to the source, but too late. Could it be that Eteri recognized that it was too late for Zhenya to acquire these skills? It’s been Eteri’s epiphany and MO to train these skills to preadolescents when their bodies are more trainable and made of ‘rubber’. These are elements best learned with young, resilient, small, thin, light bodies with developing quick twitch muscle response, when muscle memory can be trained with less penalty. Zhenya has entered her Katerina Witt period where she will be adored for the greatness she achieved in her relatively short peak, but her podium days are passed. In any case, no quads or 3A in her quiver, and lost flexibility due to the wages of age will keep her out of the running, even if healthy. Tuktamysheva had one last grab at the brass ring at Rostelcom. I was very happy for her ‘phoenix’ showing. With Anna absent, and the 3 Team Tut 14 year olds ineligible, it was likely her last chance for a last hurrah, and she held it together. It was heart warming to watch. She has no consistent big jumps to land, only triple combos. Still a beautiful skater when she can hold it together for a whole program, but that’s been not very often for the last long while. I personally think that Kosternaia and Trusova are suffering with Plushenko as the hot head tries to learn how to coach. His attitude and temper has always been his worst flaw in competition, and it won’t help his new endeavor. Thumbs down to you, Evgeni. On paper, Alena and Sasha should have gone 1-2 at Rostelcom, but I think their new affiliation has cost them. Tuktamysheva was the benefactor of the situation. As to those who whine about ‘over scoring’, you don’t understand scoring and complain because your favorites come up short. Scoring is complex, and far from straight forward - judging is composite between specialist judges that each score specific aspects of the programs. If you think that you can keep up with them in real time as one pair of eyes (without the instant review tech that they use), you’re fooling yourself. Download the ISU handbook and humble yourself. High risk jumps aren’t all there is, and the scoring for these is pretty well codified and risk is rewarded. Transitions, spins, step sequences, and artful presentation add up too. Anna’s big FS score at the Nationals was a function of two landed quads, trademark spins, and no ‘dead time’ skating between elements. Ditto for Kamila after the first three jumps (which suited her Bolero program perfectly). The sport has moved on.
4:50 "I fall getting out of bed" MOOD Also, props to these commentators! It would have been so easy to seem disappointed by her fall, but they just seemed so supportive and kind!
Anna has the better scoring quad jump that Trusova rarely lands but jumps fewer quads overall... however she is also closer to Kostornaia in terms of presentation so on a good day Anna can crush both of them but only if she perfectly lands her jumps.
@@KKKK-bl4cg i just meant that, in terms of united states skating commentary, people always talked about how valieva was going to win or how trusova had all the quads... it didnt seem like people thought scherbakova was going to get gold. like objectively, she probably is the most consistant/best skater of the bunch, but she was not the most talked about (at least in US)
She didn't do it to disrespect her, I agree, it could have been said in a better way but sometimes when you talk a lot you get lost in some details and neglect others. I prefer not to condemn a mistake because it has happened to all of us, the only difference is that you can repeat her mistake because it's on video, if our mistakes were on video I assure you that people would judge us even worse
How are all these Russian girls so beautiful and so talented ? As much drama as their is they have really brought figure skating to the forefront of women's sports. It brought me back to skating after 30 years and even my 14 yr old who is a ballet dancer has fallen in love in figure skating and I have to say it was the Russian skaters who got me back in to my love of skating.
Because state funding for extracurricular activities combined with rigorous selection on body type for sports/arts like figure skating, ballet and rhythmical gymnastics are still in place today since Soviet times. They make sure that they can train the right type of children to succeed in certain types of sports pretty easily. The hands-on delegated expertise of the past 5-6 decades or so by many coaches to their pupils (esp. in ballet tho that is) also plays a role.
in the end, no one forces them to stay in the sport. The weak go away, the strong remain. This is natural. If figure skating is an easy hobby for a girl, she will leave and there will be no results, if figure skating is the meaning of life, she will do everything to win.
@@mrOL100 есть и другие причины... История Анны Семенович. Люди и не знают, что она была фигуристкой. Чемпион Москвы серебряный призер России. Из-за болезни завершила карьеру.
It seems like birth year is very important with the Russian figure skaters...if you are 15/16 during the Winter Olympics you have a much better shot than someone 17/18 when they come around
I missed the Troika. What Kostornai, Scherbakova and Trusova accomplished during the 2019/20 season before cvoid fell upon us, was unmatched. These young ladies have truly transitioned the sport of figure skating forever. With their unique styles and phenomenal skating ability.
This documentary was gut wrenching. It was very interesting and detailed, you make it perfectly understandable for people who barely know anything about the skating community!
I knew nothing of figure skating until I saw the Beijing 2022 free skate and the after math with Trusova , valieva and eteri, searched the internet for context and this video summed up the history and context so well - cheers!
I just want to address this real quick. The Japanese lady in question is Midori Ito, the first woman to land a 3A and the first woman to land a 3-3 combination in competition. She still skates to this very day, even after retiring from competitive skating back in the 90s. To me this speaks volumes that Midori is still capable of skating well in her 50s, when these young girls (not even in their 20s yet) are being trained to paralysis. I can’t even begin think about how this goes out in detail. Midori’s coaches must’ve been POLAR OPPOSITES compared to Eteri, especially since Midori started skating around the same age Eteri’s girls did. I just find it important to take in.
It's insanity really, most of the girls in this video from 3 years ago, no longer really skate competitively anymore, one switched to pairs, I think Sasha hasnt really been competing nor has Anna right? Its just so sad, Trusova went from being able to do five quads in a program to pulling out of competitions because of the torture her coaches put her through to get those quad jumps in the first place. Meanwhile, Midori seems to enjoy skating still, she is active and seemingly less injured and yet so many people praise and celebrate Eteri and will defend her to a psychotic degree. The amount of angry comments I STILL get on a comment I left being critical of Eteri right after the last Olympics, is insane
@@Juwlz I find it horrible that this was passed on or even covered in some cases. It just upsets me that people have so much competition that they would start putting younger people at risk of serious injury
Lemme put it bluntly, Eteri's training encourages anorexia and early retirement in women's skating Edit: to anyone commenting “sore losers” or whatever look at the recent doping news and maybe learn how to care even a little bit about young athletes
Ha! You’re probably a fan of Dance of the Hours in Fantasia. Hippos doing ballet and all. 😂 It’s simple physics. Moment of inertia. Slender bodies turn faster. Just watch Anna as she tightens her leg position - together - while she is airborne. Her rotation accelerates visibly. Certain sports demand certain physiques. None of these ladies would do well in the NHL, if you catch my drift. If they pay attention to their training, diet, and develop their natural gifts with patience and top coaching/encouragement, they have an opportunity to excel, if their growth genetics doesn’t betray their ambitions. Don’t whine about anorexia. Sure it can happen - like with Lipnitzkaya, but she had psych issues under pressure as well. Baiul had a drinking problem. These are individual personal problems. Zhenya isn’t anorexic, nor is she too old. She’s just banged up from all her time on the ice, and her body has matured in a way that isn’t going to be conducive to racking up scores with quads. It happens, it’s a tough demanding sport. And the CV-19 residuals may not allow her full recovery. That’s sad, but it’s not anyone’s fault. Yuzuru is flirting with that banged up condition too, but he’s blessed with that slender, wiry, fast twitch musculature and he might make it to a third Games gold it he tends to business, watches his diet, and woodsheds to hone the last bit of his potential. And that seems to be what he’s doing. At the Japan Nationals, no black circles under his eyes, great verticality and axial alignment on his rotations, terrific choreography as always - he’s never looked so healthy and together at the same time. He’s got a hell of an incentive with Nathan blossoming to challenge him as he has. It’s an exciting time for the sport. It’s now a young person’s sport. That’s not Eteri’s fault. She’s only facilitated the skaters development and achievements in a more efficient and timely manner. Now there’s 12 year olds doing quads, and they don’t all skate for her. She was just the first one to figure it out - that preadolescent girls could do it earlier, easier than anyone else. And I agree with the comment about Daniil’s choreography being revelatory. That he develops programs to accentuate and work to the individual talents of the skaters he designs for is exemplary. To watch Kamila immediately followed by Anna at the Russian Nationals, how different and beautiful could two programs be. Bookend those skates with Maiia’s and Daria’s - that’s a lot of variety. Kudos to Daniil. And I agree with the comments regarding Alena and Sasha and their training challenges. Personally, I wish anyone but Evgeni was training them. He’s not a good influence psychologically, and his coaching abilities are a big ? mark. I hope all of you enjoyed the Russian Nationals. Those skates at the end, Sasha’s included, were skating history.
@@michaelcunningham795 lmao you really compared me denouncing poor diets as explained in the vid AND REPORTED BY MANY OF ETERIS FORMER SKATERS to "hippos" dancing, thats disgusting. Yes a slender and small body in YOUNG skaters works...until they grow (as they need to naturally if healthy) and then they lack the muscle mass to keep up. This has happened over and over again. Im not a fan of the new couch either although he had a much longer career than any of eteris skaters. Its not just yulia. I am an athlete myself and we need to encourage longevity. You are making excuses for eteri and harmful practices that destroy young bodies and encourage early retirement. Also yuzuru hanyu has struggled with asthma and is A LOT (as far as competitive skating goes) older than the girls you are comparing... whew ima just not even go farther because you clearly dont know wtf ur talking about, its just unfortunate children r involved and suffer from the ISU's negligence.
Let me make this clearer for the ppl in the back. Quads r exciting, but not when it is a. Done poorly (flutz floops) and b. IS NOT SUPPORTED BY PROPER CARE FOR THE BODY AND APPROPRIATE MUSCLE MASS BUILDING. eteribots r wack
I’m so upset that Evgenia went back to Eteri. 🤦🏼♀️🥴like girl wtf. It sucks that COVID screwed so much for these athletes. I loved Brian and Zhenyas relationship. 😭he was such a father to her. I wish the best for these girls.
Fascinating insight after the heartbreaking performances and post competition behaviors of the ROC’s team, coaches and trainers at Beijing 2022 this week. This Coach Eteri and her team need to be reviewed; no athlete should go through what the young Russian skater had to go through.
@@evgenemayer5623 Apparently the Russian Anti-Doping agency RUSADA hadn’t released the results until Feb. 8th and suspended her from competing. The press was just reporting developments as they were unfolding.
@@Sochic100 You are misinforming. Wada tested the samples in their lab in Stockholm, 1 day after the competition, although the sample was since December? Guess why?
seeing these videos pop up makes me feel so comforted because i personally experienced abuse from a psycho coach for 7 years. it makes me glad to know that similar behavior is being called out more and more often and that the mental health of athletes is starting to become more relevant. i genuinely hope that one day the mistreatment of athletes of any sport ever stops.
there is no child abuse on the part of the coaching staff. just watch their everyday videos, they are all friendly with each other and their coaches are pretty cute, although everyone seems like they are a fiend from hell. The only child abuse was on the part of the IOC, who thought it would be cool to accuse the athlete of doping and put pressure on her with responsibility.
Gifting a bouquet of flowers to your teachers and mentors is actually very common in Russia. Every year children attend a ceremony of the beginning of the school and sometimes they gift flowers to their teachers. It also happens when the students graduate and want to thank their class teacher. I am a university student in Russia. And even now we present something to our professors at the end of the year when we have to say goodbye to them as they won't have to teach us the next semester.
@@peaceflowerstudios6833 They did. But I appreciate the cultural insight. Won't lessen my dislike for Eteri at all, but it gives some context, which I like knowing.
This video was AWESOME! I freaking hate this coach- always have. But the way you put this together made it entertaining and not JUST anger-inducing. :) Thanks for making it fun! And also we need an update. Cause.... y'all know this Olympics B crazy. ;'D
So for a while now I´ve been watching these really well put together clips on TikTok of mostly Trusova and Sherbakova and I have been absolutly mezmorized with there outerwordly abilities. They just dont seem completly human to me. I DID NOT KNOW anything of what ur bringing up in this video but MY GOD it explains...A LOT! Thanks for a great briefing!!
14:18 - you have never seen anything like that because some sports like gymnastics has a "two out of country" rule, which totally eliminates the possibility of such a podium. Otherwise, you would see Americans dominating in WAG for a quad and Russians dominating in rhythmic gymnastics for more then 20 years now
I love your sassiness/memes/references to pop culture and your well researched video essays that keep things in perspective. Your lovely persaonlity shines through.
Seeing the girls cry broke my heart Evgenia Alina both of them suffered so muchlike eteri what should i say to this woman i mean they are growing children.. Evgenia really went through a lot for keeping up with her coach's favoritism and expectations..
My real concern is with Eteri's liquid diet and the overall nutritional component of what it takes to execute quads and triples. A person needs strength and power to execute as well as great muscle tone. Those girls look like anorexics.
I’m only half way through this video but I already love it. I mean its a sad story but your video is the first of many that has actually explained the drama. Thank you because after many years, I could finally understand it.
I actually went to the 2018 Olympics and saw Medvedeva and Zagitova's gold medal battle live. I had no idea the amount of drama that was going on. Now it's hard to look away
what i find interesting (read: sad) is that generally in the other three disciplines of figure skating (mens, pairs and dance) you consistently see skaters in two different quads, and some of the best in 3+ quads. but it seems to be incredibly rare to see a female skater in more than 1 quad (obviously there are exceptions but it doesnt seem to be the norm). my view on it is that there seems to be more of a lack of regard for the females body, that it doesnt matter if their career doesnt last because their body is too injured to be successful for more than four years, instead what matters is that the coach always has someone on top of the podium.
And Tutberidze's bonus. Sasha Trusova left her for Plushenko last season and her goe became lower, she was credited with all the mistakes, while her main rivals Valieva and Shcherbakova had clean protocols, despite the fact that Kamila has awful prerotations and the axis flies without a rippon, and Anya has terrible technique (flutz, flat edges, rittberger with two legs) and too inflated components more than Kaori. And 5 quads is a real achievement, but not because of Tutberidze, but because of Sasha's phenomenality. But unfortunately, this achievement was devalued, referring to the artistry that Sasha has. And famous old people like Yagudin hate Sasha (and he also hated Yuzuru, but this is other topic of discussion ) only because of Tutberidze bonus
I feel like Brian coaches his athletes for a longer lasting career while eteri just suck the life out of her athletes until there's nothing left after they hit the eteri expiration date
@@wickedwitch7456 brian orser had coached yuna kim for 3 years, from 16 to 19 yo (she left him in 2010 with a scandal, yuna mom was calling brian a liar etc). 3 years is "a long career" now? orser had never coached an adult lady to success, all his abilities in that department is making loud statements and insulting more succesful coaches. i'm not an eteri fan, but she proved that brian orser is incompetent in ladies figure skating. by guiding tursynbaeva to worlds silver medal (btw at the time elizabeth was a couple months older than yuna, when yuna left orser). the best result that tursynbaeva had with brian is 9th place at worlds. eteri brought her from 13th place at the olympics (under orser) to 2nd place at worlds, just in a year. that's also unlike anything that orser have ever done, skaters that winning under brian were already winning with their previous coaches (yuna kim was already a junior world champion, when she came to orser). and you can't compare men's figure skating to ladies, there's different physiology. morisi kvitelashvili is 26 yo, and his career is lasting like forever with eteri. brian orser can't train adult ladies to success. that's a fact. but he is trash talking like he's an expert on long lasting ladies careers, like he is mishin or something.
@@alexanderbakulin8836 sorry but i wrote that when my only knowledge about eteri is through this video, so now, I've changed my mind about her. Although i still don't like her, she truly is one heck of a coach. And aslo, maybe Brian's coaching does not work well with ladies just like etiri can't really work with men, but that just my amateur opinion.
The bouqet thing is so funny because when I left my lowkey toxic soviet coach of 10 years (I'm a rhythmic gymnast btw but still) when I came to say that I'm transferring clubs I brought her flowers and her first words were, "oh, what is the celebration?!" And it was the most bittersweet memory I have of her.
Lmao my friend is really into figure skating, specially women’s figure skating and I remember just like a week ago we were freaking out over Kamila Valieva’s performance at the Olympics. Now here I am… this is so SO much more than I expected jeez..
Well. I'm 50-year old female from the country of Georgia. My friend from Georgia is also of my age. She's got sportsmaster's title in artistic gymnastics at age 15 and retired from professional sports at age 17 (typical retirement age for gymnasts). Methods used to train her and maintain her body parameters were the same as used by Ms. Tutberidze. She was trained almost 24/7, lived at special boarding sports school, was constantly undernourished and dehydrated. The method was commonly used for all gymnasts across the Soviet Union and guess was used for figure skaters too. I assume that the application of such "inhuman" methods are continued at present days in Russia. I also assume that Chinese are using similar methods. So, nothing unique is applied by Ms. Tutberidze. She's just continuing old Soviet traditions. Also, the competition creates the demand. The trend is that both figure skating and gymnastics have been becoming younger and younger. This trend is not created by Ms. Tutberidze but by the international market.
Thank you for your honesty. It is sincerely appreciated. All of these negative comments prove just how gullible people really are. Seems like the world is becoming one big school of sucker fish... Congratulations! Your just walked off the cliff just like the morons before you... Never forget that attention is the most valuable commodity in the universe and where ever the masses are gathering you can bet it's being manipulated...
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! You speak the truth. Those talented children were abused and broken…that’s what they do. The age limits being raised is important. I see these girls (and I’m thin, and want to gain five pounds) and all I can think is they aren’t allowed to eat. (Oh, and stuffed with drugs…) They look so unhealthy..and for a growing teen, that destroys the development of bone structure, cognitive abilities, and on and on…no wonder 17 was the expiration date…they were broken. Medevedeva was so broken by 17, she can’t bend over in one direction…don’t do this to your kid. (Competitive figure skater growing up in a different country in a different time, it was still horrible and abusive from coaches…constant weight things…constant, ‘if you can’t do this, you’re no good,’ and pain? Don’t tell anyone…just push through. No one will care if you’re in pain, or have broken bones…shut up, and do your routine.)
Thank you for this very informative and strangely interesting video. I loved every second of it, even though I'm only a casual viewer turning my TV on every 4 years when it's Olympics time. I knew figure skating fandom was a thing, but I had absolutely NO clue it might ever be this big and full of spicy drama :D
THANK YOU PAOLA. For someone who won't know the difference between figure skating and a door knob, I learnt some much about the skaters, the people behind them, the bitching and of course the agony young lovely kids go thru to be the world's best. Thanks for this video.
Well this feels particularly ominous considering what we just saw happen at the Olympics. This is a really well done video, thank you for explaining this in a really interesting way with some small comedy relief lol this coach is awful
Thank you for putting this all together. I would have never understood or been able to piece it together. I started watching figure skating through yuzu but after, I started really getting into each skater and the Russian girls (Evgenia and Alina) I could see some tension in their performance and podium but never was able to understand it all. Thanks you very much for the video!
As a grown ass professional boxer male, I found this breakdown fascinating. Thank you Ms. Paola for a great commentary. We should enroll you into our intelligence departments xD
Part 2 The Doping Boogaloo is up! ua-cam.com/video/KpRn9dscgp0/v-deo.html
what video do you have playing in the background when you’re talking about their extreme diets? is it a documentary?
@@fawnangel4444 Anna only had a diet in season 2021-2022. She never had a diet in 2018-2019, 2019-2020, 2020-2021 seasons. But she was so slim
Some people have the Kardashians, I have Russian figure skating. It's literally the same thing, if not better
yea but the big difference is that these Russians Skaters have talent they can be proud of.
Yes - it is much, much better... No comparison.
We can make a TV show and titile it: Keeping up with Tutberidze...
@@Griffw06 Yes - she is a true powerhouse...
Eteri is a great coach of great Russia.
If someone needs Plushenko, you can take it. We will pay you extra for this)))))
Sasha Trusova has no more jumps left while she trains with him. Alena Kostornaya will soon end her career.
This needs to be a Netflix doc
@@efimkrivov What the actual F are you talking about?!?!
@@efimkrivov “I have nothing against blacks” just say you are a racist
@@efimkrivov wtf
YESS
@@efimkrivov they are not called ‘blacks’ and please grow a brain and stop being racist you nasty human
POV: you are here bc the drama from the Beijing Olympics made you jump down the rabbit hole with both feet and now ya gotta know the backstory
Now you see why Trusova had a meltdown. She is in the “Eteri expiration date” age so this might be her first and last Olympics ☹️
Most Russians don't even have stable access to water and electricity but they are brainwashed to think it's the best country in the world
@@lzbhcvm6747 you know what’s weird? My brother, in his 50s now, moved from the USA to Russia and he thinks this too. Everything is the best there, no homeless, very clean, low covid numbers. It’s weird!
@@StinkyDustyBird hahahahhahahhhahahahahaha Russia's entire GDP is even lower than China's Beijing province, let alone comparing to the U.S.
@@lzbhcvm6747 we never said that lol
I’m Russian and I want to remind everyone about the existence of such an amazing skater as Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. her career outlived Julia, Evgenia, Alina, Alyona and so on. Is it a coincidence that the only uninjured Russian figure skater who has been skating brilliantly for more than 10 years is not from the Tutberidze team? I don't think so
(I hope my English is understandable🥺👉🏻👈🏻)
Your English is excellent!😊
I’ve seen her skate, she’s beautiful on the ice. She’s earned her nickname “the empress”
She looks so mature when she’s next to Eteri’s skaters.
We love the Empress.
Your country have a lot of talented people, wish they didn't have to get caught in unfortunate situations
@@lunix3259 Elizaveta was robbed. It was down to her and Anna to go to Beijing 2022 and the judges basically had already decided to send Anna by giving her unfair scores.
Wow, watching this after watching Kamila Valieva skate at the Olympics, and she also trains with Eteri. Honestly makes so much sense because I always wonder every Olympics what happened to the other Russians that won gold.
Me too!😂
Same😂I have noticed a pattern but this just confirms it.
I believe Kamilla will be ice skating till the next Olympics
Kamila Valieva is not from this planet. She must be an Alien. lol
And now we know Kamila doped
“They were calling him fat and gay, but really he was just chubby and gay” lmao idk why this made me laugh so much
Lemme tell you I DIED when she said that
She can’t can’t can’t use the word “gay”. Oh boy, she just used it.
I actually SCREAMED and upset my housemates
Brian is good and very successful. He is good with people.
bxnxnnd same
also can i add that brian orser seems like one of the only coaches who isn’t a total psycho and he actually cares for his students beyond their athletic skills... and he doesn’t shade literal children on social media???? idc stan brian x
Yup plus I think there are more reasons she went for Orser..................not just because of Eteri
Yep, Orser's team are all drama free kids from Yuna, Hanyu, and Fernandez. So I can imagine how stress free they are from their coach which is essential for young adults.
@@jb7644 nowadays there’s quite a lot of tea going on with BO but guess what I’m just gonna ignore,,,,, imma focus on skates...
@SisiaVogel what happened?
@@izzy156 These are NOT my words but from Reddit where people explained it like this:
”Basically, Brian said there was tension caused by Yuna's mom (possibly related to a false rumor that Brian was set to coach Yuna's main rival, Mao Asada), but he wanted to keep coaching her. He said they told him he would no longer be coaching Yuna Kim rather unceremoniously one morning, and as such his team stopped coaching her. Yuna's mom released her own statement saying something about this being temporary and that Yuna would be back. When Brian wouldn't take her back, Yuna/her mom started saying he was lying. It sounds like Yuna herself didn't have much of a say for herself and stayed out of the drama. There's a lot of really crazy stuff that happened in the back-and-forth between the two, but who knows. You can find a lot of good information about that part of it from articles when the split happened. IIRC Phil Hersh linked to a few articles about it around the time of the Eteri-Medvedeva split.
Rumor also has it that this is why Brian has since taken a pretty strict policy against known crazy or stage parents. More specifically, this is said to be why Nam Nguyen and Elizaveta Tursynbaeva left. I can't remember who, but there were a few skaters he has been rumored to have refused due to crazy skating parents. Of course, Brian Orser being Brian Orser he won't confirm/deny any of these crazy parent rumors.
Another angle is this: Korea's skating federation wanted Yuna to keep competing and skating after Vancouver, but Yuna herself didn't want to. She's said vague statements to this effect since and others involved in skating (including some on TV) said she "didn't have her heart in it," "was hesitant to compete," "didn't want the attention," "didn't like competing," "was satisfied with the modeling and TV work," etc. after winning gold. So it's possible that she herself initiated the split because it was a good way to cut back on her training or otherwise prepare for retirement, only to be forced back into competition for Sochi.”
That Powerpuff Girls 3A edit is spot on! Great video!
thank you!!
Amazing comparison and great editing with all that!!!
What is great?! She just sits accuses Eteri with all the shity gossip, she was paid by Plushenko nothing more, as you won't find any neural opinion but just accusing Eteri.
@@Agniya_M Paid by Plush? 😂 Come on, she's just one of the FS fans. This is great as it's well-researched and well-edited video regarding the FS drama.
Literally brilliant.
This aged extremely well
haha I was just g onana type this
Right? After the Olympics, I started digging the topic to know what the f*** is going on there :D
Slowly but surely making it to everyone’s recommended including mine 😂😂
Right
For someone outside of this world, can you tell me why it aged well? What happened?
"The first woman ever to land it (triple Axel) in competition was a Japanese lady." LOL - can we please give Midori Ito her due?!
No one can take away Midori's achievement, so I think this was just an unfortunate use of words but not with the intention of undermining her and demeriting her work
@@cecily3797 Yeah, that's why I put "LOL" - wasn't an accusation. Just a playful observation.
Lbh here, there is some racism that played in those words. Asian representation is already so little outside of Asia in majority, if not, all of the world that to undermine Midori Ito as a figure skating enthusiast is really nothing short of brushing off achievements by Asians. I don't remember this yter doing the same to any other athlete she's mentioned? I could be wrong, I don't remember. That comment that was made rubs the wrong way
It was definitely a put down of Midori Ito one of the best skater of all times. Why will we remember these Russian children in 30 years? Because of their amazing careers or because of the child abuse sanctioned by government? It will be like what we remember about Sochi 2014 cheating by government sanctioned doping.
Yeah, as if the first American woman who landed 3A is significant but the first woman who landed 3A is insignificant because she was not Westerner.
I skated until I was 17 and only got to double jumps, but I still spent my whole childhood in pain, seeing my physiotherapist and chiropractor every week, not being able to go to gym class, wearing tapes everywhere and getting huge bruises on my feet. My back is pretty much recovered but I think my knees will hurt forever, I can’t even begin to imagine the damages those jumps do to these young girls’ health
It's really devastating for those young underdeveloped bodies!
I experienced the same exact thing, I've skated from age 4-16 years old. Skating really gave me a love and hate relationship, it felt like skating took all my childhood away, when my friends can go out on weekend, I had to practice and practice for hours. I got to land a few triple jumps, but.. all the pain physically and mentally, my childhood, and idk what else I missed while spending my entire childhood for skating.. It must be really hard for this young girls gone through, especially Kamila with the whole world focusing on her
Why won't they better protect these girls? I don't understand...
@@Emidoki cause they only care about themselves
@@Emidoki Money that's why.
Knowing that Evengia retired from her back pain just breaks your heart
And yulia from her struggles w an eating disorder i believe :(
@@cosmari245 i think on top of her eating disorder Yulia just happened to find love and get pregnant that's why she retired , it all made sense in a way ...
Ikr 😞
So you essentially explained this Olympic disaster.. LAST YEAR.
exactly this was foreshadowing at its finest
Yet no one listened to this wise broadcaster and or the girls. Bodies damaged and careers ruined and they ARE CHILDREN! It’s child abuse pure and simple! I want to send Tonya Harding to kick Eteri’s arse. I’m so mad how these girls have been abused!
It just goes to show how this is a vicious cycle, it happens every fucking year 😔
@@unknown-lf6zx LMAO NOT TONYA HARDING
The Japanese lady, Midori Ito, the first woman to land a triple triple and triple axel in a competition..still a legend i think even to this day/compared to the squad.
Yes! The equipment and coaching techniques are so much more advanced today than that of Midori’s era. Still amazes me every time I watch her land the triple axel.
Bronze Medalist Midori Ito
Yes! Why do people always udermine her? "Japanese lady"... Say her name, she deserves it!
There should definitely be a Netflix documentary like this, about these young abused girls and Eteri. So sad 😔
I can see it rather as a dark comedy. It would be fun to watch.
@@alisonb9963 I don’t understand why it would be a comedy when they’re trying to bring light to the abuse these girls are facing…
@@birthdaycow I can just picture all of the cat-fighting, running mascara, tantrums etc. mixed with the actual drama they went through. Peace out.
@@alisonb9963 I mean you literally just stated more stuff that would be emotionally draining and damaging for them but okay I guess the emotional abuse of children is funny and entertaining /s
@@birthdaycow Exactly. Glad you see my dark humor. Now...buzz off.
Brian is by far my fav figure skating coach. He has coached Yuna, Yuzu, Javi, and so many other famous skaters out there
Aside from their achievements, he doesn't run his skaters to the ground. You'd think that were the minimum, but after what happened to Yulia and how Alina was treated before and after Pyeongchang, it apparently isn't a requirement for a "great coach." 🤷♀
I really love Brain and his boys (plus Yuna), but I love Eteri’s girls too)
@@anthyavila9726 I agree I think he’s a good coach, but he was pretty shady with Yuna Kim toward their separation ngl..
My favorite coach is actually Mr Smith from Alabama. He's not making any Olympic champions or even state champions but he is really nice bloke, and, behind a point of beer he can tell you a lot of funny stories.
George Calm this is a really sweet comment :]
The narrative of Eteri girl's career: "Burn bright but briefly" sums it up!
"imagine your friend enjoys figureskating but theyre constantly stressing about some russians" literally never heard of them in my life but im invested
I’m sorry I don’t know the girls names- but it’s sad. The teenage girl who won silver at the Olympics was having a mental breakdown because she did 5 quad jumps and believed she should’ve won. Instead she lost to her more artistic teammate I believe. It’s interesting because your video is a year old, and you saw that the judges preferred the artistic skating over just athleticism.
Poor girl who was upset from winning silver . I know people were harsh on her and called her poor sportsmanship . But like these Russian skaters go through sooooooooo much abuse it’s sad. They have such old and barbaric methods these coaches don’t care about the long term health of these skaters but only care about their health through there competing career . Maybe this Eteri coach makes winners but at what cost? And it’s all over a sport 🙈I think sports are great but competitive careers of most gymnasts and figure skaters are extremely short and in the end are just a small part of there lives in the end and then what???
@@clisaa6974 They get a medal and that’s it. World recognition but at what cost? Eteri’s girls retire by 18 due to medical issues most of the time. Was it worth a medal? I don’t think so personally. It is sad. I think her name is Sasha who won silver. I wish her happiness, she deserves a better coach
@@michellexbeauty9832 Right! Ice skating like gymnastics is a sport with high injury rate and as you said at what cost? It is just not worth it. I watched a video on Evgenia Medevova and was shocked poor girl recently at 22 had to retire cause she screwed up her back badly and can't turn left comfortably or something. It is crazy.( I mean now she is making good money with being a media personality and from sponsorships), but still! it is sad for sure.
@@clisaa6974.
Her quads are prerotated and the edges are suspicious… I have trouble considering them true quads. Like when they gave the gold to Sotnikova who had quite literally cheated toe jumps throughout her entire performance
People defending tuberitze under this video and claiming the girls were not victims because they were successful are truly scary, for their enjoyment they will purposely ignore child abuse right in front of their eyes, hunger games style
God, you don't know much about Russia, it's inappropriate to write.
@@ХыхыхХуйтебе can you explain how that's not true?
Have you ever wondered why Tutberidze's students are so successful? Or why Soviet gymnasts were legendary? Some elements they performed even have been banned because of health risks. In a competitive sports, especially such as figure skating, gymnastics, acrobatics, almost nothing is possible without a things that you call a child abuse. These athletes know this, their parents know this, fans know this, coaches know this. If you accept competitive sports than you automatically accept this. Overworking, injuries, health issues for the rest of your life most likely, pressure etc. I'm not defending Tutberidze, I don't care about her. These kids are not victims of anyone, they are athletes, which means they are victims of figure skating. Coach is just a person who helps them to reach hights and the more tough is this coach the more successful they'll be
@@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BByou have to be a child
@@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BBSo , what you are saying that child athletes can agree to the abuse because their parents and coaches (who directly benefit from that abuse) pressure them?
Figure skating these days feels like the cold war
...cold war in one country or even in one club technically
It was always like this...scandals all around.
These days? Always has been wdym lol
@@phonkearl3581 yeah it kind of perfectly matches the Cold War. USA-> mens and ice dance. Russia -> ladies and pairs. Lmao the two countries even shade each often other in figure skating commentaries.
@@Bella-po8vh that wasn’t rlly my point but ok
so much effort went into this video, it definitely deserves more recognition!!
aww thank you much!! it literally took me a week to get it good enough to post
@@paolala i love your editing and the whole video was so well done !! when i was 5 mins in i checked how many views it had literally expecting it to have 1 mil
@@ifrena you making me blush
It's just a paid video by Plushenko, nothing else than accusing Eteri how bad she is. Only gathered the gossip, has she ever done something worth in her life...
So many lies here ! The statements here are biased! The facts in this video are twisted incredibly!
Evgenia stole my heart. I love her show performances shes done and her interactions with fans. I will always root for her.
samEEE
this is a great video! here after Kamila’s 2022 Olympic performance (and positive drug test). Kamila and all of these ladies deserve better. this needs to be talked about more
Poor Alexandra was so fed up
I need a nextflix series out of all this drama.
Watch Icarus on netflix and you'll learn about Russian doping.
"I have never seen anything like that in any individual sport." Never watched Rhythmic Gymnastics?
It has a 2 per country rule that gives the chance for other countries to get a bronze spot. Russian girls are so awesome, they take top medal positions for decades. Irina Viner (the coach) also has controversal methods, but she has top girls over 20 that are still competing: Ekaterina Selezneva is 25 (World Champion), Anastasia Ilyinichna Bliznyuk is 26 (2 time Olympic Champion), Anastasia Ivanovna Maksimova is 29 (Olympic Champion)!!!
The russian ice skating is like Game of Thrones...wow
Maksimova is 29?!?!? What?!?! I'm also interested in RG but more on singles, not so much groups, BUT WHAT?!?
I think it comes down to technique. Shizuka Arakawa (first Japanese FS Olympic gold medalist) can still jump triples and triple-double combos in ice shows. She's FORTY YEARS OLD. Other Russian coaches have also successfully coached adult FS skaters. Eteri's camp not only has bad technique they also rely on repetition and low body weight making injuries more likely. Iirc one of her students, a 15 year old girl, literally shattered her hips during a comp practice. It's insane.
Thanks a lot for this video! As a Russian, I can confirm that I am fully stressed out by the injustice of the Eteri bonus, crazy media fights and extremely toxic atmosphere. This is why I so admire Elizaveta Tuktamysheva and her coach Alexey Mishin for their rational and calm approach to the skating, with the support and true love instead of abuse and toxic behaviour.
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva is so inspirational. As an American, it is so wonderful seeing a grown Russian woman compete. I wish Canada had granted Evgenia Medvedeva citizenship, so that she did not have to return to Russia to be abused.
I’ve always enjoyed Her Imperial Majesty’s (😉) skating & ITA : It is wonderful to see an actual Russian LADY competing out there. I really loved her FS all the way back in October at Skate Canada. Such a perfect Program for her & was she ever having a blast performing it too!! 😁. I also remember the very first time she came over for Skate Canada. This seemingly adorable precocious little Russian girl getting her feet wet at her first Senior GP Event & doing everything w/the biggest grin on her face. I remember thinking, “She’s got a bright future...”
Then she skated & we all went...😱. Hard to believe it was all those years ago & I’ve literally watched her grow up in front of my eyes. I was really pulling for her to finally skate on Olympic Ice, but sadly...We all know the rest. 😪. I’ve been thinking a lot about The Empress the last 2 days & wondering how she must be feeling watching all of this take place. She must also be wondering how many Olympic Teams did she miss a legitimate chance of being on? I know presumed innocence before guilt, but there’s just too much precedence from the last 8 years of how that “Woman” treats her Skaters, plus the too high Marks/GOE, etc, etc, etc...
Not that Liza hasn’t had her own issues w/entries on certain jumps, but over time she worked on it &, for the most part, has solid technique now. It’s only when things start really going downhill those old habits creep back in. Even that doesn’t happen as often as it did even a couple of years ago. She keeps on fighting, even when she knows the odds are next to impossible, Liza still keeps fighting & I respect that. I also know this was her last chance to make an Olympic Team more than likely, which is beyond a shame, as well as sad. I hope she comes & skates in Stars on Ice here in Canada one of these days. I’d love to see her skate live.
All Hail The Empress!!!!
I was hoping Elizaveta would put a rabbit out of a hat & end up making the Team to Beijing, but I also knew the likelihood of that happening was slim to none too.
@@ChienaAvtzon I have been seeing Medvedeva acting in a Russian tv show and attending some entertaining shows recently, where she seemed to have fun. From that I assumed she is enjoying her retirement from skating. And from what I've seen there her and Alina Zagitova are good friends)
im not russian or a figure skater but im invested in this drama
YES SAME
Clearly NOT REQUIREMENTS!!!! LOOK @ ALL THE COMMENTS........
We need more coaches like mine. My coach(Igor) was trained by a Olympic coach and became a senior by the time he was 15-16. While living in Russia, he actually new Eteri. Then he moved to the states when he was around 30 to 40 and became a coach for my skating club. He taught group lessons and private lessons. He was kind, and tried his hardest to make us laugh and during tough times. He was also very patient. I am very proud to have him as my coach and as my figure skating best friend.
the moment tutberidze discovers puberty blockers we'll all be doomed
Unless she discovered a healing elixir, I don't think keeping them young is the issue. She destroys them young after 4 years of overtraining with injuries. So even a 10 year old would be forced to retire at 15, after a senior style of elite competition rounds.
She actually did... it's called Lupron and its supposed to kick-start menopause. Because to her, "girls with smaller bodies are able to compete in elite-level skills more efficiently and easily". That's why the girls retire early
.....@@imstuckinatrashcan
"A japanese lady" ma'am her name is midori ito and you need to put respect on her name what
Yes!
right wtf,,, so disrespectful
I don't think she meant to be disrespectful. She didn't mention her name because it was not relevant to what she was discussing in that moment.
@@sagefantaisie why are you making such a big deal about it?
@@bluedasher74 i mean.... tonya’s wasn’t relevant either and she still mentioned
“If not for the covid pandemic, this would not even be a conversation”. This hit me hard. Evgenia deserves better. I feel bad for her. I was really hoping to see Evgenia in the 2021 Russian Nationals. I was really hoping to see Evgenia perform under the direction of Coach Brian Orser. If not for her recurring injuries, Evgenia would be on God-level. Nevertheless, she is still and will always be one of the best skaters in figure skating history.
She was at the ‘21 Nationals. In the stands watching and applauding.
@@michaelcunningham795 yeah. At first I was very sad she wasn’t able to compete. But as Genia always emphasized, her health and recovery is her priority. I’m looking forward to her long and magnificent career as a skater once she has recovered. :)
@@mariajesseannegloria3026 Hello from Russia. Medvedeva is nothing more than a retired skater, fans love her but nobody believes she can ever be a top skater and rival girls like Anna, Kamila and Sasha.
@@Askhat08 That’s the unspoken truth. It’s sad but I want to remain hopeful. She hasn’t given up yet so I won’t stop believing in her just yet. :)
@@mariajesseannegloria3026 the good thing about zhenya is definitely her strong Will. She really wants to be able to go to Beijing 2022, to the point she even went to orser, despite all the backlash that she took. Mad respect for her. Too bad her talents on ice itself isnt enough to compete in the deep pool of Russian ladies, Now that they push for quads (tho IMO those quads are sus since prerotation and questionable edges from scherbakova and trusova). fixing her jump is very hard now that she's maturing into adulthood. Being able to place 3rd in nats itself is almost impossible IMO unless the quadster mess up a lot. Let alone winning olympic. still wishing the best of her despite all the hard path ahead
So.....for Olympic 2022...Eteri will have Evegnia(if she can make it) the artistic queen, Anna the stable underdog, Kamila the performance master, and Daria the quiet underdog. Then Plushenko has Trusova the quad firecracker, and Alena the graceful swan. The Russians know how to bring the drama but the 2021-2022 season is going to be movie worthy.
Anna is the new Russian championship winner...
@@andreaoliveroskinen9590 I think it’s so interesting that Anna is always counted out, yet has won the Nationals all three years running since she came up from the Juniors.
But you forgot about the Team Mishin, Davydov and others. Liza Tuktamysheva and others will still compete for a place in the national team.
@@grigol101 Liza is one of my long time favourites and yes she should be included. She is very reliable with her jumps and as she is older she has the maturity that others don’t. I loved her programs. She missed out before and she shouldn’t miss out again.lets hope she makes it. Regards from Aust🇦🇺
Interesting comments. IMO , Tori has nailed it well.
IMHO, Zhenya (Medvedeva) has had her day. Aggravated old injuries (and maybe new ones) will keep her off the team. Her move to Orser to learn quads with a mature body late in her career has cost her.
Zhenya knew that she would need quads to up her competitive game with the new level brought on by Javie and Yuzuru. So she went to the source, but too late. Could it be that Eteri recognized that it was too late for Zhenya to acquire these skills? It’s been Eteri’s epiphany and MO to train these skills to preadolescents when their bodies are more trainable and made of ‘rubber’. These are elements best learned with young, resilient, small, thin, light bodies with developing quick twitch muscle response, when muscle memory can be trained with less penalty.
Zhenya has entered her Katerina Witt period where she will be adored for the greatness she achieved in her relatively short peak, but her podium days are passed. In any case, no quads or 3A in her quiver, and lost flexibility due to the wages of age will keep her out of the running, even if healthy.
Tuktamysheva had one last grab at the brass ring at Rostelcom. I was very happy for her ‘phoenix’ showing. With Anna absent, and the 3 Team Tut 14 year olds ineligible, it was likely her last chance for a last hurrah, and she held it together. It was heart warming to watch. She has no consistent big jumps to land, only triple combos. Still a beautiful skater when she can hold it together for a whole program, but that’s been not very often for the last long while.
I personally think that Kosternaia and Trusova are suffering with Plushenko as the hot head tries to learn how to coach. His attitude and temper has always been his worst flaw in competition, and it won’t help his new endeavor. Thumbs down to you, Evgeni. On paper, Alena and Sasha should have gone 1-2 at Rostelcom, but I think their new affiliation has cost them. Tuktamysheva was the benefactor of the situation.
As to those who whine about ‘over scoring’, you don’t understand scoring and complain because your favorites come up short. Scoring is complex, and far from straight forward - judging is composite between specialist judges that each score specific aspects of the programs. If you think that you can keep up with them in real time as one pair of eyes (without the instant review tech that they use), you’re fooling yourself. Download the ISU handbook and humble yourself. High risk jumps aren’t all there is, and the scoring for these is pretty well codified and risk is rewarded. Transitions, spins, step sequences, and artful presentation add up too. Anna’s big FS score at the Nationals was a function of two landed quads, trademark spins, and no ‘dead time’ skating between elements. Ditto for Kamila after the first three jumps (which suited her Bolero program perfectly).
The sport has moved on.
4:50 "I fall getting out of bed" MOOD
Also, props to these commentators! It would have been so easy to seem disappointed by her fall, but they just seemed so supportive and kind!
anna scherbakova sounded kind of like an underdog. im so glad she won the olympic gold, very well deserved.
Anna has the better scoring quad jump that Trusova rarely lands but jumps fewer quads overall... however she is also closer to Kostornaia in terms of presentation so on a good day Anna can crush both of them but only if she perfectly lands her jumps.
@@KKKK-bl4cg i just meant that, in terms of united states skating commentary, people always talked about how valieva was going to win or how trusova had all the quads... it didnt seem like people thought scherbakova was going to get gold. like objectively, she probably is the most consistant/best skater of the bunch, but she was not the most talked about (at least in US)
15:55 was a japanese lady? Midori Friggin Ito did not jumped those huge 3A just to be called as some japanese lady hahaha
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wait I could have sworn this comment had other comments too
Right it’s very disrespectful. She is a legend. Just because she is Japanese doesn’t mean she was on the same level as tonya
She didn't do it to disrespect her, I agree, it could have been said in a better way but sometimes when you talk a lot you get lost in some details and neglect others. I prefer not to condemn a mistake because it has happened to all of us, the only difference is that you can repeat her mistake because it's on video, if our mistakes were on video I assure you that people would judge us even worse
Yeah that bothered me too
Well…. Can’t wait for PART 2 after the recent events 😬😬😬
This chaos was so well explained and edited, awesome job 💫 (here’s a bouquet 💐😛)
Second bouquet from me!
Third bouquet from me!!! 💐
I just got into following figure skating and watching this was really informative. Also this would make a great drama series
agreed! i'm so glad people are finding this useful. Also, welcome to the fs community it'll definitely entertain if nothing else hahaha
Thank you for the kind words
this video literally helped me understand everything and the events that just happened today just adds even more drama to the pot
The fact that you said Anna was the least talked about (true) and now she is an olympian medalist❤️
How are all these Russian girls so beautiful and so talented ? As much drama as their is they have really brought figure skating to the forefront of women's sports. It brought me back to skating after 30 years and even my 14 yr old who is a ballet dancer has fallen in love in figure skating and I have to say it was the Russian skaters who got me back in to my love of skating.
Because state funding for extracurricular activities combined with rigorous selection on body type for sports/arts like figure skating, ballet and rhythmical gymnastics are still in place today since Soviet times. They make sure that they can train the right type of children to succeed in certain types of sports pretty easily. The hands-on delegated expertise of the past 5-6 decades or so by many coaches to their pupils (esp. in ballet tho that is) also plays a role.
Abuse it’s so obvious
in the end, no one forces them to stay in the sport. The weak go away, the strong remain. This is natural. If figure skating is an easy hobby for a girl, she will leave and there will be no results, if figure skating is the meaning of life, she will do everything to win.
I’m a ballet dancer who also wants to figure skate but im scared
@@mrOL100 есть и другие причины... История Анны Семенович. Люди и не знают, что она была фигуристкой. Чемпион Москвы серебряный призер России. Из-за болезни завершила карьеру.
I love how you called Rozanov 'Hot Sergey'
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People have been calling him that for years
@@S80-r1o Oh, I never heard it in Russian. That's how I watch figure skating.
@@АтмосфераЧёрная TSA guys started calling Rozanov Hot Sergei abt 2 seasons back and it picked up from there :)))
It seems like birth year is very important with the Russian figure skaters...if you are 15/16 during the Winter Olympics you have a much better shot than someone 17/18 when they come around
👏 Absolutely! That's what happened to Medvedeva and Zagitova.
Well. Anna Shcherbakova is almost 18. But, she won the 2022 winter olympics gold LOLz.
@@LAZISH yeah but Valieva (15) was the one supoused to win, but lost on porpouse so they could have the others medals
Trusova's meltdown at the Beijing 2022 Olympics and exchanging some fiery words to Eteri is worth talking about.
I’m surprised Anna is the least favorite she has artistry and strength she’s the middle ground and I rly love her
its because shes the middle ground... Ever watch people discuss politics?
Doing everything well isnt as cool as doing one thing exceptionally...
I missed the Troika. What Kostornai, Scherbakova and Trusova accomplished during the 2019/20 season before cvoid fell upon us, was unmatched. These young ladies have truly transitioned the sport of figure skating forever. With their unique styles and phenomenal skating ability.
This documentary was gut wrenching. It was very interesting and detailed, you make it perfectly understandable for people who barely know anything about the skating community!
I knew nothing of figure skating until I saw the Beijing 2022 free skate and the after math with Trusova , valieva and eteri, searched the internet for context and this video summed up the history and context so well - cheers!
“Anna is the least talked about one” However she is the World and Olympic Champion
She’s still the least talked about, ironically :/
@@watchmedo635 I think that is messed up!!
I just want to address this real quick. The Japanese lady in question is Midori Ito, the first woman to land a 3A and the first woman to land a 3-3 combination in competition. She still skates to this very day, even after retiring from competitive skating back in the 90s. To me this speaks volumes that Midori is still capable of skating well in her 50s, when these young girls (not even in their 20s yet) are being trained to paralysis. I can’t even begin think about how this goes out in detail. Midori’s coaches must’ve been POLAR OPPOSITES compared to Eteri, especially since Midori started skating around the same age Eteri’s girls did. I just find it important to take in.
It's insanity really, most of the girls in this video from 3 years ago, no longer really skate competitively anymore, one switched to pairs, I think Sasha hasnt really been competing nor has Anna right? Its just so sad, Trusova went from being able to do five quads in a program to pulling out of competitions because of the torture her coaches put her through to get those quad jumps in the first place. Meanwhile, Midori seems to enjoy skating still, she is active and seemingly less injured and yet so many people praise and celebrate Eteri and will defend her to a psychotic degree. The amount of angry comments I STILL get on a comment I left being critical of Eteri right after the last Olympics, is insane
@@Juwlz I find it horrible that this was passed on or even covered in some cases. It just upsets me that people have so much competition that they would start putting younger people at risk of serious injury
Paola, in a UA-cam world where everyone is a presenter, love your voice and presentation style. Great documentary!
Lemme put it bluntly,
Eteri's training encourages anorexia and early retirement in women's skating
Edit: to anyone commenting “sore losers” or whatever look at the recent doping news and maybe learn how to care even a little bit about young athletes
I so much hope they will increase the age limit to 17 or 18. Then Eteri will be gone in a single season
pffft and the fat ass of Daniil that makes disgusted faces when the girls fall in a competition even that he is worse
Ha! You’re probably a fan of Dance of the Hours in Fantasia. Hippos doing ballet and all. 😂
It’s simple physics. Moment of inertia. Slender bodies turn faster. Just watch Anna as she tightens her leg position - together - while she is airborne. Her rotation accelerates visibly.
Certain sports demand certain physiques. None of these ladies would do well in the NHL, if you catch my drift. If they pay attention to their training, diet, and develop their natural gifts with patience and top coaching/encouragement, they have an opportunity to excel, if their growth genetics doesn’t betray their ambitions.
Don’t whine about anorexia. Sure it can happen - like with Lipnitzkaya, but she had psych issues under pressure as well. Baiul had a drinking problem. These are individual personal problems.
Zhenya isn’t anorexic, nor is she too old. She’s just banged up from all her time on the ice, and her body has matured in a way that isn’t going to be conducive to racking up scores with quads. It happens, it’s a tough demanding sport. And the CV-19 residuals may not allow her full recovery. That’s sad, but it’s not anyone’s fault.
Yuzuru is flirting with that banged up condition too, but he’s blessed with that slender, wiry, fast twitch musculature and he might make it to a third Games gold it he tends to business, watches his diet, and woodsheds to hone the last bit of his potential. And that seems to be what he’s doing. At the Japan Nationals, no black circles under his eyes, great verticality and axial alignment on his rotations, terrific choreography as always - he’s never looked so healthy and together at the same time. He’s got a hell of an incentive with Nathan blossoming to challenge him as he has.
It’s an exciting time for the sport. It’s now a young person’s sport. That’s not Eteri’s fault. She’s only facilitated the skaters development and achievements in a more efficient and timely manner. Now there’s 12 year olds doing quads, and they don’t all skate for her. She was just the first one to figure it out - that preadolescent girls could do it earlier, easier than anyone else.
And I agree with the comment about Daniil’s choreography being revelatory. That he develops programs to accentuate and work to the individual talents of the skaters he designs for is exemplary. To watch Kamila immediately followed by Anna at the Russian Nationals, how different and beautiful could two programs be. Bookend those skates with Maiia’s and Daria’s - that’s a lot of variety. Kudos to Daniil.
And I agree with the comments regarding Alena and Sasha and their training challenges. Personally, I wish anyone but Evgeni was training them. He’s not a good influence psychologically, and his coaching abilities are a big ? mark.
I hope all of you enjoyed the Russian Nationals. Those skates at the end, Sasha’s included, were skating history.
@@michaelcunningham795 lmao you really compared me denouncing poor diets as explained in the vid AND REPORTED BY MANY OF ETERIS FORMER SKATERS to "hippos" dancing, thats disgusting. Yes a slender and small body in YOUNG skaters works...until they grow (as they need to naturally if healthy) and then they lack the muscle mass to keep up. This has happened over and over again. Im not a fan of the new couch either although he had a much longer career than any of eteris skaters. Its not just yulia. I am an athlete myself and we need to encourage longevity. You are making excuses for eteri and harmful practices that destroy young bodies and encourage early retirement. Also yuzuru hanyu has struggled with asthma and is A LOT (as far as competitive skating goes) older than the girls you are comparing... whew ima just not even go farther because you clearly dont know wtf ur talking about, its just unfortunate children r involved and suffer from the ISU's negligence.
Let me make this clearer for the ppl in the back. Quads r exciting, but not when it is a. Done poorly (flutz floops) and b. IS NOT SUPPORTED BY PROPER CARE FOR THE BODY AND APPROPRIATE MUSCLE MASS BUILDING. eteribots r wack
I’m so upset that Evgenia went back to Eteri. 🤦🏼♀️🥴like girl wtf. It sucks that COVID screwed so much for these athletes. I loved Brian and Zhenyas relationship. 😭he was such a father to her. I wish the best for these girls.
I feel like once Evgenia can go back to Cricket Club with her mom, she's going to go.
@@ckilbarger01 I hope so!!
Well, Eugenia can make good money in Russia with Eteri…
@@PandAlex I don't think you can make a lot of money from competitions?,, especially with quad team taking all the podium
@@ego_peyseyshestvo not from competition) Eugenia right now skate at different shows and ice rink openings. And she again had commercial contracts.
Fascinating insight after the heartbreaking performances and post competition behaviors of the ROC’s team, coaches and trainers at Beijing 2022 this week. This Coach Eteri and her team need to be reviewed; no athlete should go through what the young Russian skater had to go through.
why did the press announce doping before Camila's performances? Why dragged on for more than a month with this?
@@evgenemayer5623 Apparently the Russian Anti-Doping agency RUSADA hadn’t released the results until Feb. 8th and suspended her from competing. The press was just reporting developments as they were unfolding.
@@Sochic100 You are misinforming. Wada tested the samples in their lab in Stockholm, 1 day after the competition, although the sample was since December? Guess why?
seeing these videos pop up makes me feel so comforted because i personally experienced abuse from a psycho coach for 7 years. it makes me glad to know that similar behavior is being called out more and more often and that the mental health of athletes is starting to become more relevant. i genuinely hope that one day the mistreatment of athletes of any sport ever stops.
there is no child abuse on the part of the coaching staff. just watch their everyday videos, they are all friendly with each other and their coaches are pretty cute, although everyone seems like they are a fiend from hell. The only child abuse was on the part of the IOC, who thought it would be cool to accuse the athlete of doping and put pressure on her with responsibility.
"even though he's actually chubby and gay" LMAOOOO i love you
Gifting a bouquet of flowers to your teachers and mentors is actually very common in Russia. Every year children attend a ceremony of the beginning of the school and sometimes they gift flowers to their teachers. It also happens when the students graduate and want to thank their class teacher.
I am a university student in Russia. And even now we present something to our professors at the end of the year when we have to say goodbye to them as they won't have to teach us the next semester.
You missed the spirit of the discussion
@@peaceflowerstudios6833 They did. But I appreciate the cultural insight. Won't lessen my dislike for Eteri at all, but it gives some context, which I like knowing.
"Figure skating is a sport where the young and most importantly young uninjured bodies triumph". Maybe in the ladies but noother discipline
This video was AWESOME! I freaking hate this coach- always have. But the way you put this together made it entertaining and not JUST anger-inducing. :) Thanks for making it fun! And also we need an update. Cause.... y'all know this Olympics B crazy. ;'D
So for a while now I´ve been watching these really well put together clips on TikTok of mostly Trusova and Sherbakova and I have been absolutly mezmorized with there outerwordly abilities. They just dont seem completly human to me. I DID NOT KNOW anything of what ur bringing up in this video but MY GOD it explains...A LOT! Thanks for a great briefing!!
14:18 - you have never seen anything like that because some sports like gymnastics has a "two out of country" rule, which totally eliminates the possibility of such a podium. Otherwise, you would see Americans dominating in WAG for a quad and Russians dominating in rhythmic gymnastics for more then 20 years now
exactly!!
I love your sassiness/memes/references to pop culture and your well researched video essays that keep things in perspective. Your lovely persaonlity shines through.
Seeing the girls cry broke my heart
Evgenia Alina both of them suffered so muchlike eteri what should i say to this woman i mean they are growing children..
Evgenia really went through a lot for keeping up with her coach's favoritism and expectations..
My real concern is with Eteri's liquid diet and the overall nutritional component of what it takes to execute quads and triples. A person needs strength and power to execute as well as great muscle tone. Those girls look like anorexics.
I love this video. I love your delivery. It fits the drama perfectly!
Wait, wait, wait. You can’t just throw in a baby-stealing plot at the backend like that!!! >.
Watching this all over again after the drama/sickening abuse at the 2022 Olympics is just such a trip.
I love how you narrate everything.
Russian name pronunciation is on point
This short documentary is damn well crafted and explained, great job Paola :)
I’m only half way through this video but I already love it. I mean its a sad story but your video is the first of many that has actually explained the drama. Thank you because after many years, I could finally understand it.
First time falling into the Russian figure skating world and what I’m getting is this coach is going through her students like they’re disposable.
This is such a great summary video. Thank you youtube algorithm for bringing me here.
I actually went to the 2018 Olympics and saw Medvedeva and Zagitova's gold medal battle live. I had no idea the amount of drama that was going on. Now it's hard to look away
I lost it at the Powerpuff girls 🤣🤣🤣🤣
what i find interesting (read: sad) is that generally in the other three disciplines of figure skating (mens, pairs and dance) you consistently see skaters in two different quads, and some of the best in 3+ quads. but it seems to be incredibly rare to see a female skater in more than 1 quad (obviously there are exceptions but it doesnt seem to be the norm). my view on it is that there seems to be more of a lack of regard for the females body, that it doesnt matter if their career doesnt last because their body is too injured to be successful for more than four years, instead what matters is that the coach always has someone on top of the podium.
you should make a part 2 after everything that happened at the olympics
And Tutberidze's bonus. Sasha Trusova left her for Plushenko last season and her goe became lower, she was credited with all the mistakes, while her main rivals Valieva and Shcherbakova had clean protocols, despite the fact that Kamila has awful prerotations and the axis flies without a rippon, and Anya has terrible technique (flutz, flat edges, rittberger with two legs) and too inflated components more than Kaori. And 5 quads is a real achievement, but not because of Tutberidze, but because of Sasha's phenomenality. But unfortunately, this achievement was devalued, referring to the artistry that Sasha has. And famous old people like Yagudin hate Sasha (and he also hated Yuzuru, but this is other topic of discussion ) only because of Tutberidze bonus
shout out to you for these masterpiece edits and comments
hahahha thank you!!
@Paola La no need im the one who supposed to thank you 💕 I really enjoyed watching the video
Yuzuru Hanyu and Yuna Kim trained by Brian and Tracy team are perfect skaters
Yes because Eteri produces robot skaters.
I feel like Brian coaches his athletes for a longer lasting career while eteri just suck the life out of her athletes until there's nothing left after they hit the eteri expiration date
@@wickedwitch7456 brian orser had coached yuna kim for 3 years, from 16 to 19 yo (she left him in 2010 with a scandal, yuna mom was calling brian a liar etc). 3 years is "a long career" now? orser had never coached an adult lady to success, all his abilities in that department is making loud statements and insulting more succesful coaches. i'm not an eteri fan, but she proved that brian orser is incompetent in ladies figure skating. by guiding tursynbaeva to worlds silver medal (btw at the time elizabeth was a couple months older than yuna, when yuna left orser). the best result that tursynbaeva had with brian is 9th place at worlds. eteri brought her from 13th place at the olympics (under orser) to 2nd place at worlds, just in a year. that's also unlike anything that orser have ever done, skaters that winning under brian were already winning with their previous coaches (yuna kim was already a junior world champion, when she came to orser).
and you can't compare men's figure skating to ladies, there's different physiology. morisi kvitelashvili is 26 yo, and his career is lasting like forever with eteri.
brian orser can't train adult ladies to success. that's a fact. but he is trash talking like he's an expert on long lasting ladies careers, like he is mishin or something.
@@alexanderbakulin8836 sorry but i wrote that when my only knowledge about eteri is through this video, so now, I've changed my mind about her. Although i still don't like her, she truly is one heck of a coach.
And aslo, maybe Brian's coaching does not work well with ladies just like etiri can't really work with men, but that just my amateur opinion.
Hanyu Yuna asian skaters .Brian Canadian skaters ?
Eteri Tutberidze is very much like the Abby Lee Miller of figure skating and we can all agree on that
The bouqet thing is so funny because when I left my lowkey toxic soviet coach of 10 years (I'm a rhythmic gymnast btw but still) when I came to say that I'm transferring clubs I brought her flowers and her first words were, "oh, what is the celebration?!" And it was the most bittersweet memory I have of her.
Ah yes. I am here after the mess at the 2022 Olympics. This explains a LOT. Thank you.
I’m a rhythmic gymnastics girl, but after this video I’m pretty sure I’m also a figure skating girl. This is JUICY 🍒 great vid!
Eee im a rhythmic gymnastics girl too ! But im also a figure skater girl hehe
In my dreams... Viner x Trubaritze crossover
The toxic training methods there and dominance of Russia are pretty similar in both rg and skating haha
Lmao my friend is really into figure skating, specially women’s figure skating and I remember just like a week ago we were freaking out over Kamila Valieva’s performance at the Olympics. Now here I am… this is so SO much more than I expected jeez..
The "less injured" part took me out🤣🤣
Subscribed because the Dance Moms comparisons. Thanks for helping newbies like myself understand. Fantastic video!
Well. I'm 50-year old female from the country of Georgia. My friend from Georgia is also of my age. She's got sportsmaster's title in artistic gymnastics at age 15 and retired from professional sports at age 17 (typical retirement age for gymnasts). Methods used to train her and maintain her body parameters were the same as used by Ms. Tutberidze. She was trained almost 24/7, lived at special boarding sports school, was constantly undernourished and dehydrated. The method was commonly used for all gymnasts across the Soviet Union and guess was used for figure skaters too. I assume that the application of such "inhuman" methods are continued at present days in Russia. I also assume that Chinese are using similar methods. So, nothing unique is applied by Ms. Tutberidze. She's just continuing old Soviet traditions. Also, the competition creates the demand. The trend is that both figure skating and gymnastics have been becoming younger and younger. This trend is not created by Ms. Tutberidze but by the international market.
Thank you for your honesty. It is sincerely appreciated. All of these negative comments prove just how gullible people really are. Seems like the world is becoming one big school of sucker fish... Congratulations! Your just walked off the cliff just like the morons before you... Never forget that attention is the most valuable commodity in the universe and where ever the masses are gathering you can bet it's being manipulated...
Is true with gymnastics is getting older
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! You speak the truth. Those talented children were abused and broken…that’s what they do. The age limits being raised is important. I see these girls (and I’m thin, and want to gain five pounds) and all I can think is they aren’t allowed to eat. (Oh, and stuffed with drugs…) They look so unhealthy..and for a growing teen, that destroys the development of bone structure, cognitive abilities, and on and on…no wonder 17 was the expiration date…they were broken. Medevedeva was so broken by 17, she can’t bend over in one direction…don’t do this to your kid. (Competitive figure skater growing up in a different country in a different time, it was still horrible and abusive from coaches…constant weight things…constant, ‘if you can’t do this, you’re no good,’ and pain? Don’t tell anyone…just push through. No one will care if you’re in pain, or have broken bones…shut up, and do your routine.)
Omg it feels like I was waiting for a video like this for a thousand years. Sooooo good, omg, thank you ❤️
so glad i could help!!!
So informative & well made! Crazy that 2/3 of 3A just made the Olympic podium.
ahh yes another evening sitting down for some ice skating drama while having never ice skated myself
the way i know nothing about figure skating but has been binge watching ur youtube channel for like a month now.. the drama is insane
I will never forget seeing those scales she made those kids weight on when I was 13 or so, and then people are shocked they can’t maintain skills
The irony of “chemical X” for the powerpuff girls likely being trimetazidine for 3A… I guess the analogy aged well 👏🏻
Thank you for this very informative and strangely interesting video. I loved every second of it, even though I'm only a casual viewer turning my TV on every 4 years when it's Olympics time. I knew figure skating fandom was a thing, but I had absolutely NO clue it might ever be this big and full of spicy drama :D
This could be a whole movie, maybe a series
THANK YOU PAOLA. For someone who won't know the difference between figure skating and a door knob, I learnt some much about the skaters, the people behind them, the bitching and of course the agony young lovely kids go thru to be the world's best. Thanks for this video.
Well this feels particularly ominous considering what we just saw happen at the Olympics. This is a really well done video, thank you for explaining this in a really interesting way with some small comedy relief lol this coach is awful
Thank you for putting this all together. I would have never understood or been able to piece it together. I started watching figure skating through yuzu but after, I started really getting into each skater and the Russian girls (Evgenia and Alina) I could see some tension in their performance and podium but never was able to understand it all. Thanks you very much for the video!
As a grown ass professional boxer male, I found this breakdown fascinating. Thank you Ms. Paola for a great commentary. We should enroll you into our intelligence departments xD
I feel like what these kids would need the most is a team therapist