Chase Bliss Audio Delay Shootout! Which analog delay is right for you? | Secret Weapons

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  • @Oh.No.Brousseau
    @Oh.No.Brousseau 3 роки тому +111

    Born too late to explore the world. Born too early to explore the stars. Born just in time to watch Mark perform a deep dive into Chase Bliss delay pedals.

    • @eg1503
      @eg1503 2 роки тому

      A great time to be alive :)

  • @sunilyapa3018
    @sunilyapa3018 3 роки тому +37

    I’m so stupidly excited that this is 40 minutes for three of my favorite pedals.

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +9

      I’m so confused as to why all my videos end up being over 40 minutes. But this feels like a good time for that to be the case.

    • @YouSeeSorrows
      @YouSeeSorrows 3 роки тому +2

      @@markjohnstonofficial 2:08 welp, it wasn't 45 minutes lol. You didn't lie.

  • @dougc84
    @dougc84 3 роки тому +46

    mark @ 2:07 "i don't want to make this a 45 minute feature length video"
    me: looks at video length... "you're not wrong."
    i love how dedicated you are to these videos. great stuff man.

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +5

      Thanks man. I really do intend on keeping things brief. It’s just not my strength.

    • @dougc84
      @dougc84 3 роки тому +2

      @@markjohnstonofficial i'm so tired of videos that are short for the purposes of being short... because they always miss out on something. this, and your other videos, feel like i'm sitting down at the board with you jamming. i love that. keep it up.

  • @johnjoy1318
    @johnjoy1318 3 роки тому +10

    You’re doing the lords work with this one. Now to convince my wife I need a tonal recall blue knob and a thermae.

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +11

      This is what I am here for. To inspire a need where there might not actually be one

    • @alden2205
      @alden2205 6 місяців тому

      @@markjohnstonofficialhow do you feel about that?

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  6 місяців тому +1

      @@alden2205 how do I feel about a joke I made three years ago?

  • @DiscreteCircuitry
    @DiscreteCircuitry 3 роки тому +7

    Going into this video I was thinking "Great! Mark's gonna answer the question as to which Tonal Recall works for me"
    Coming out of this video: "Yeah two Thermae's in stereo sounds like a good plan"
    Amazing stuff man.

    • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
      @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup 3 роки тому

      I need to try that! My wallet would hate me though!

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому

      That is on my short list of "arrangements I really want to do but need to find a second"

  • @Paul_Uhl_
    @Paul_Uhl_ 3 роки тому +20

    Nice work, buddy. It felt so good to watch this... You echo everything that I believe and feel about these three delay pedals. It often feels like I am alone in my impressions of music gear... I greatly respect you and your opinions, so it's a nice feeling to be eye-to-eye on this.
    In regard to the subtle nuances of OG vs. RKM... where you talk about the heat of the repeats... that is definitely due, in part, to the slight variations and tolerances of the analog parts of the circuit, plus the fact that each is calibrated by hand. Each Chase Bliss pedal is, in a way, its own unique thing. You were right on the money when you mentioned the internal trimmers. You can definitely make adjustments as needed to tame or unleash different characteristics of each pedal. (please don't try this at home unless you know what you're doing).
    One fun thing on Thermae... (Talk about secret weapons) is... if you take off the back plate, you'll see a single dip switch attached to a wire. It's in the upper left side. That cuts out one chipset and gives you the "short" option like on RKM and OG blue. Fun to mess with that. I have one of my Thermae set normal, and the other with the "short" setting.
    Great video, man. Seriously. XOXO

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +10

      Dude I did NOT know that about the Thermae. Now I need a second. Shoot.
      And I love the nuance of device to device changes in these delays. It really does speak to how unique everyone’s own experience is; hence why I always refuse to deal in “better / worse”

    • @Paul_Uhl_
      @Paul_Uhl_ 3 роки тому +10

      @@markjohnstonofficial I really *really* love that you don't do that. I don't, either. My least favorite post anywhere is the "Which pedal is better? The XXX or the YYY??" I even told my friend one time there's no such thing as a bad speaker. (Sure, there's working and non-working but I mean like good and bad) As long as it makes some kind of sound... It might not be the sound you want today but it could be the sound you want tomorrow.
      The subtle nuances thing really excites me, as well. I swear this is not a humble brag but I do have four RKM's. (Beta was interesting) It would be fun to line them up and set the knobs all to the same spot and try each one at the exact same settings.

  • @strunzgracie
    @strunzgracie 11 місяців тому +2

    Fantasy video! However, it could of used more commercials. One commercial every 30secs is just not enought.

  • @calvindinverno1
    @calvindinverno1 3 роки тому +2

    I really don’t understand why you don’t have more subscribers. You are so good at explaining tools for the right side of the brain, but with a left sided approach. Enjoying the channel the more I watch. Thanks 🙏

  • @winstonsmith8236
    @winstonsmith8236 3 роки тому +8

    I think Thermae is my favorite pedal ever. It’s tough between that and a MOOD but analog weirdness will always best digital weirdness for me.

  • @shinogu921
    @shinogu921 2 роки тому +3

    19:17 this full-wet part is the most convincing comparison for me. thanks

  • @esqeleteT8
    @esqeleteT8 Рік тому

    Such a good taste playing and making music, love to see your pedal demos and listen to you talk!!

  • @Subtle-System
    @Subtle-System 3 роки тому +2

    Yeah... Mark does very high quality videos... just on point! Knowledgeable, good taste stuff... I had the MOOD next on my wishlist, but I think I’ll get the thermae instead... very glad I stumbled upon Mark while looking for a Mercury 7 video... dude, you rock! Awesome mellow, sweet music and just very enjoyable pedal videos... really makes me appreciate Joel Korte even more... just brilliant stuff... thanks!

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +1

      MOOD and Thermae are both incredible. There is a lot more variety to be done with the MOOD and I love it a lot. But Thermae is also just my all time favorite pedal. Can't go wrong here.

  • @jessieplaysmusic8530
    @jessieplaysmusic8530 3 роки тому +1

    2:06😂 we love your long videos man!

  • @javiercabrera3517
    @javiercabrera3517 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video!! Funny how we all hear things differently. I hear the Thermae as being more cleaner and brighter. Both Tonal Recalls are more "warmer". Red knob the darker and adding some "clipping " loudness with the repeats. I've been looking at Chase Bliss Audio pedals for a long time but can never decide which one. Also having that toggle switch in between both footswitches kind of throws me off. It almost calls for these pedals to be controller remotely instead of from using the pedal's own footswitches. Thank you for the great explanations!

  • @kentonschroer2347
    @kentonschroer2347 3 роки тому +2

    This is some of the best pedal content. You kill it every time with the demos and explanation . Thanks for all the content man!

  • @jordandangelo180
    @jordandangelo180 3 роки тому +1

    Wow man you really have some of the dreamiest tones I’ve heard. You’ve definitely mastered the art of making sure the delay does not in the way. Really amazing board too btw. Chase Bliss are magicians, Meris too. The new Autonmatone Chase Bliss/Meris reverb sounds incredible.

  • @ishancooper
    @ishancooper 3 роки тому +1

    The RKM is such an epic pedal but I’ve sometimes wrestled finding a sweet spot that I stay happy using. I LOVE the sound of the Thermae though. So beautiful!

  • @jamieholmes6087
    @jamieholmes6087 3 роки тому +2

    Im glad to hear that your favorite pedal of all time is the Thermae.
    It is mine aswell.
    Ive created probably about 6 or 7 songs using it so far.
    One one of them it is just a looped organ where im creating different textures by manipulating the Int 1 & 2 knobs while the looping is going on.
    It is a songmaker.

  • @sliceofsparta8985
    @sliceofsparta8985 3 роки тому +1

    There's something about my OG Tonal Recall that I can't live without.

  • @kinsmenmusicofficial
    @kinsmenmusicofficial 3 роки тому

    dude you're killing it, love your videos.

  • @marzbitenhaussen
    @marzbitenhaussen 2 роки тому +3

    after i got the fairfield circuitry Maude, i got rid of all my other delays

  • @crystallineanthology595
    @crystallineanthology595 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @michalmikolajmaslowski3994
    @michalmikolajmaslowski3994 3 роки тому

    Spectacular video, Mark. Thank you!

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 4 місяці тому

    The blue knob model was always over filtered. You could turn the filter all the way up, and it was still too dark. The red knob probably doesn't have more gain. It's just less filtered, which means it lets more signal through.

  • @Paul_Uhl_
    @Paul_Uhl_ 3 роки тому +2

    Oh, and you have the best LUTs

  • @jackduxbury1632
    @jackduxbury1632 3 роки тому

    Always Awesome. Love your videos so much mate. Much love from the UK 🇬🇧

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much. Glad you're enjoying. Additionally, UA-cam's AI for auto response must be getting smart because it saw you say you are from the UK and offered an auto response of "Legend!" haha

  • @Jesse-ux4ld
    @Jesse-ux4ld 3 роки тому +1

    I would be OK with having any tone at any point in this video. I really dig these sounds.

  • @unicornyoho
    @unicornyoho 3 роки тому +2

    The difference in the TR and the BKM volume could be a trimpot adjustment difference. I know that I didn't like my blue knob's mix was lower than some of my other analog delays and CBA told me to adjust that internal pot.

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 3 місяці тому +1

    I'll take the Red Knob please..

  • @KunchangLeeMusic
    @KunchangLeeMusic 3 роки тому +6

    Love the thermae

  • @RobFlaxMusic
    @RobFlaxMusic 3 роки тому +1

    Dude. The Thermae as lofi modulator into El Cap for that tape saturation... I never would've thought to do that. I don't have an El Cap but could see using Blooper or Zoia or Synesthesia in that capacity... Gonna go spelunking to see what works in that capacity.

  • @rufiopan1
    @rufiopan1 3 роки тому +1

    I love this video

  • @jash500
    @jash500 2 роки тому +2

    I appreciate you going through this. I’m wanting to get a Timeline, but I feel like Chase Bliss pedals are more expressive. Your base clean tone is really nice. Is there any other pedal that contributes to your clean tone (i.e. compressor, boost, etc…)??

  • @delkel9delkel914
    @delkel9delkel914 3 роки тому +6

    I’ll never sell the blue knob but have moved on both the Thermae and RKM. I just found the sounds from Thermae can get a bit repetitive after awhile. The RKM doesn’t sound as good as the blue knob particularly the feedback. I had it from pre order until a few months ago though. But If I had to get rid of them all but one it would definitely be MOOD I’d keep.

  • @pokeboi984
    @pokeboi984 3 роки тому

    Mark! Great stuff, man. Would love to see you review the Mood. Thinking about buying one

  • @rikkousa
    @rikkousa 2 роки тому +1

    “Nobody puts Moog in the corner”-Patrick Swayze, actor and delay aficionado

  • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
    @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup 3 роки тому +1

    Just ordered a Mood from Vintage King Audio today! Want a CBA delay next, but on the fence as to which one of these three!

  • @oskarnystrom4643
    @oskarnystrom4643 3 роки тому +1

    Damn... Beautiful

  • @waltersmetak
    @waltersmetak 3 роки тому +1

    Woe, you kept both the red and blue knob delays - when the red version came out sent my blue knob for an update - now you got me wondering if I did the right thing.....hum.....

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +1

      I was very lucky in that my wife got me the RKM for Christmas a few years ago. I really think they're both incredible with totally different use cases. Kind of a "no wrong answers" situation.

    • @waltersmetak
      @waltersmetak 3 роки тому +1

      @@markjohnstonofficial Yep, so I heard - but just too much coin - the RKM is about $500 - a tad too much to have both. Nice demo, interesting comparison.

  • @riccovrea841
    @riccovrea841 Рік тому

    Recently found you watch all your videos, love your stuff never been into ambient music but because of your reviews on several pedals I have recently bought the total recall blue knob wondering if you’re using any dip switches in the back any help would be useful for getting started

  • @RobFlaxMusic
    @RobFlaxMusic 3 роки тому +2

    A thought on the "Thermae-esque" Tonal Recall trick with Morningstar: wouldn't that also work for the Thermae too? Could you use that switch to open up Thermae even more!?
    Does Thermae have a midi command for tapping on the momentary switch (like in step mode) but with Midi CC's? Because maybe there's a way to use the Morningstar (or perhaps a Zoia as a sequencer) with the Thermae and create more complex arpeggios with a combination of the two intervals and the time division knob...?

  • @lofijunky
    @lofijunky 3 роки тому

    exactly what i was looking for. thanks so much!

  • @EcoCentrist
    @EcoCentrist Рік тому

    nice trip tp delay land at the end

  • @RobFlaxMusic
    @RobFlaxMusic 3 роки тому +2

    TEAM THERMAE

    • @RobFlaxMusic
      @RobFlaxMusic 3 роки тому

      (That said this was fascinating)

  • @TheTargetedScapegoat
    @TheTargetedScapegoat Рік тому

    I so love delay. That being said, a long time ago I realized these differences we hear in the condition of tone are largely never heard by anyone else. They make little difference to anyone but us and other weirdos. So is that what makes them important or does it make is ridiculously| OCD?

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  Рік тому +1

      The nuances impact how we write. The differences between delay tonality might be lost on an audience but brightness, repeat fidelity, delay time length, etc have a huge impact on the kind of parts I write which DO effect what the audience hears.

  • @danielfolgado
    @danielfolgado 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this, Mark! I'm curious how you got the MC8 to communicate with the Tonal Recall?

  • @arcticfoxstudios2018
    @arcticfoxstudios2018 2 роки тому +2

    So many beautiful pedals to purchase...but not as beautiful as your playing.

  • @dannydeleto5156
    @dannydeleto5156 3 роки тому +1

    Hey, short question. Can you send a clock via midi? Looks like youre sending 108bpm. So they all keep track of that?

  • @blindianajones
    @blindianajones 2 роки тому

    I love the subtleties of chase bliss pedals. However, it seems for the value each pedal offers, the other layers / pedals / mix needs to be subtle too...or the chase bliss pedal effect is lost. I would not normally worry too much about that, but given the prices for these pedals, I wonder about their value for the money. I can understand studio recording a part the mixing it, but just playing in a pedalboard with no mixing, Im not sure about the value. Do you find any of the Chase Bliss pedals can stand out well? I get the brightness option but I wonder if there are any more bold modulation options that can hodl up with other pedals?

  • @treesurgeon2441
    @treesurgeon2441 Рік тому

    I like the Thermea but decided against it because I found it too chirpy.

  • @guittarwizzrd
    @guittarwizzrd 2 роки тому

    I have spent a lot of time checking out reverbs and delays , I mean a lot of time I only want to purchase once . I know I want the dark world for my reverb , I'm still on the fence with a delay but the problem is I don't understand midi at all . I have a huges & kettner bs200 and midi pedal board but I don't know if it'll work with these pedals as well or if I need to get another midi controller or what . I just need to be able to make and save presets , I don't need to be able to change values on the board. I don't even have the pedals yet and I'm done all ready flustered that I'm not going to be able to figure out what I want to do . I really don't understand midi and it makes me feel very dense not knowing if what I done have will work with it or not . I just want to be able to set the pedals on my studio desk or on top of my amp when playing with some one live and hopefully be able to change it with the bs200 board . I'm so far behind in the times . Everyone else is using computers to record and I'm using a tascam DP-32SD. I'm worried I'll spend all this money and never be able to really figure out how to configure everything.

  • @Jotapecaster
    @Jotapecaster 3 роки тому +1

    Mark a quick question! In this video the Thermae is in step mode or something? Can’t get that clean a Delay sound you got:(

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +1

      No it’s in normal operation; just with the intervals turned off. I’m not sure what you mean by Cowan delay sound.

  • @Ganache30
    @Ganache30 3 роки тому

    In the winter I use a blue knob, and in the summer I use a red knob.

  • @davegraham9932
    @davegraham9932 3 роки тому

    Mark, did you ever mess around with the Toneczar Echoczar (+Angelbaby)? literally one of my fav analogue delays but it's so niche that people usually don't give it much airtime.

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому

      I had never heard of them before this. Just gave them a follow on IG. I'll have to check out their delay.

    • @davegraham9932
      @davegraham9932 3 роки тому

      @@markjohnstonofficial let me know. I've used the echoczar in the past with the angelbaby but life caused me to unload it. Ed is a WONDERFUL human too so...definitely worth a chat to him. :) Keep up the good work! I'm loving this channel.

  • @jetlee7743
    @jetlee7743 Рік тому

    I got confused to which one's playing.

  • @adamsadler2563
    @adamsadler2563 3 роки тому +1

    I also swear but the lpf on the thermae, wouldn’t trade that pedal for anything

  • @noel_christopher
    @noel_christopher Рік тому

    Does the TU-3 come after the 29 EUNA, before, or in the 29 EUNA Send/Return chain?

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  Рік тому

      Anytime I’ve got the EUNA on a board it’s gonna be the very first.

  • @johncruz1811
    @johncruz1811 3 роки тому

    I’d like to know your thoughts on how the Eventide Rose compares to the CB pedals?

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому

      The rose is an incredible and robust delay. Really can do wild stuff no other analog delay can. But I find these to be easier to implement in my rig / writing style. The rose is an amazing ambient delay for long drones though. Maybe the best there is for that.

    • @johncruz1811
      @johncruz1811 3 роки тому

      @@markjohnstonofficial Thank you, I bought it because of your video. I had CB blue but dropped it for the Rose. I just use the Rose for normal dly.

  • @GSXR1k600RR
    @GSXR1k600RR 3 роки тому +1

    How do you even need the CB's with that amazing Echosystem? Thermae does sound incredible though (they all do actually).

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +2

      Versatility of ES > Tonal recall
      Tonality of chase bliss analog delays > Echosystem algos

  • @AndyReganCDF
    @AndyReganCDF 3 роки тому

    How easy is it to connect the Morningstar to the CBA pedals? Is it just TRS plug and go, or...?

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому

      Make sure the internal jumpers on the Morningstar are correct and plug in a TRS cable. Super easy.

  • @jonnylikertrommer
    @jonnylikertrommer 3 роки тому

    Blooper Can be a delay too 😉

  • @tubingforever
    @tubingforever Рік тому

    Doesn't the Thermae have a Delay time knob?

  • @Paulo-ut1li
    @Paulo-ut1li 3 роки тому

    Great video! I was wondering if empress Echosystem can get close to some of Thermae sounds, or should give and get a Thermae?

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +2

      The Echosystem is great and can do a lot of really cool pitch shifted delays that have some great stereo applications and reverse lines. Totally worth looking at. Having said that, I think that Thermae’s specific form of pitch shifting and the lofi texture it brings to the table that makes it unique.

  • @aaronwibr
    @aaronwibr 3 роки тому

    @34:39 .... 35:19 .... whoa.

  • @Jotapecaster
    @Jotapecaster 3 роки тому

    Mark, I think i love you. Is that ok?? My Fav Pedals in one video with my fav YT-IG musician. Great friday to me🖤

  • @davejones4292
    @davejones4292 3 роки тому

    From the other comments, it sounds like this is just me, but I had a really hard time following which pedal you were playing at any specific time. There's no real indicator on the Morningstar or any of the CB pedals, so except for the blue vs. red brightness examples, I have no real clue what I heard or which pedal is best for me. Which is really disappointing.

    • @markjohnstonofficial
      @markjohnstonofficial  3 роки тому +4

      Each chase bliss pedal has two indicator lights. A left light that flashes your tempo, and a right light that indicates if the pedal is on or not. That will tell you which pedal is active at any point throughout the majority of the video.

  • @DommoDommo
    @DommoDommo 3 роки тому +2

    but how do you afford all of this....?

  • @ArtyShat
    @ArtyShat 3 роки тому

    I thought MOOD is also analog delay.

  • @mikesherrard8871
    @mikesherrard8871 3 роки тому

    Yea that pedal board cost about as much as my rig

  • @winstonsmith8236
    @winstonsmith8236 3 роки тому

    I'm a somewhat simple person-- having a slapback, perfect modulated delay and a legit ambient/glitch weird-box in one box, with instant gratification-switch a toggle and control of 3 in house presets? get outta here.