Marlies was a favourite of mine. She only tested positive for steroids in 1975 as a 17-year-old and has maintained she never used them again. I hope this is true and we don't know what pressure people were under to conform in a totalitarian society.
Marlies Göhr war 1983 insgesamt besser als Evelyn Ashford (trotz ihrer Im Juli in der Höhe gelaufenen 10,79 s) - im Juni 1983 lief Marlies zunächst Weltrekord in 10,81 s in Berlin und besiegte Evelyn beim Länderkampf USA-DDR in Los Angeles klar. Der Druck war enorm und das Ausscheiden von Evelyn im WM-Endlauf war tragisch. Marlies Göhr errang den ersten 100-m-Titel in der WM-Geschichte. Damals wie heute bin ich froh darüber. Im folgenden Jahr 1984 waren beide Sprinterinnen in Top-Form - das große Duell bei Olympia fiel leider aus - das bessere Ende hatte 1984 Evelyn Ashford für sich...
Ich glaube, daß Ashford dieses Rennen gewonnen hätte, ohne die Verletzung. Aber insgesamt hat Marlies Göhr es verdient Weltmeisterin geworden zu sein. Sie war so gut und konstant, viele Jahre lang.
Der Unterschied ist zu heutigen Zeiten,dass DDR Athleren nie und nimmer an Doping persönlich rangekommen wären,sie hätten individuell nie den Kontakt und die Devisen gehabt ,um es zu zahlen.Es wurde ihnen staatlich gelenkt zugeführt,größtenteils ohne jegliches Wissen.Der Staat könnte es sich nicht leisten ,dass Jemand nicht mitmachte,wenn er es gewusst hätte.Die „Schuld „ lag nicht bei den Athleten,so gerne es mir leid tut.
Evelyn Ashford may be the last of the clean champions. Flo Jo..doped, Fraser-Price...doped, Jeter...doped. The Ashford - Carl Lewis era is the last of the clean sprinters.
@@amayafuller5934 no real proof. But just like all the athletes knew ben was on roids, they also knew Flo Jo was on it. www.thefreelibrary.com/FLO-JO+DID+USE+DRUGS+TO+WIN%3b+Steroids+transformed+her+says+training...-a060559543 She and most of the athletes didn't get caught so, technically there is no proof. But track people know.
Man you just sound like a person that love Evelyn Ashford you don't have to pull others down just to uplift the one you like... You call Evelyn Ashford clean how do you know..have you ever looked at Evelyn Ashford eyes have you ever shook her hand before...then drag flo Jo.... flo Jo never failed a drug test in her entire life or death that article that you drugged up was bogus and you know it... You don't have to smear others to lift up the one that you admire..
It's ok. The next year Ashford won the Olympics without the East German women and then beat them with a world record right after the Olympics. It was one of the few times that a clean North American athlete beat the drugged up East Germans. If you ever saw Ashford up close and saw her lithe physique you knew she was clean and was just more talented than the East Germans ... and she was super nice as well. A great athlete and well-liked person in the sport.
Flo Jo ..have to be the greatest.. she's not even in this race her name wasn't even Joyner at this time lol and yet she's the topic of so many people imagination LOL
@@simonhindley65 the burden of proof is on the accuser you make an attempt to drag a person name through the mud should be easy for you to answer these simple questions... What was the drug flow Joe used by name.. when was that drug found in her system... When did she have to face a panel.. how long was her suspension... Prove your ignorance
Of course I can't do that, you pathetic fangirl, but it doesn't mean I'll ever believe she was clean. I can't do any of that for Marita Koch, either, but I won't bury my head in the sand where she's concerned, either.
I actually watched this race when evelyn ashford pulled up and was like nooooo not today. Was rooting for her 100 percent to win.
Thank you for the video. Can you upload more please? I LOVE the athletics in the 80s. The men's events as well please.
어쩌다 멀리 한국에서 에블린 에쉬포드를 알게 되고
그녀의 팬이 되어버린 1979년생 입니다.
Heute genau vor 37 Jahren..08.08.1983
They changed to time from 10.91s to 10.97??
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Marlies Göhr ....0 doping she says😊
I'd never heard of her before, but I had picked Evelyn to win the 100. Then saw an athlete suffer a muscle pull for the first time.
Ich denke mal sie merkte zu diesen Zeitpunkt das sie nicht gewinnen kann!!
i like it
この決勝で、アシュフォードは彼女にとって最高のスタートが出来た。肉離れを起こさなければ、いつもの様に様に後半ストライドが伸びて、ゲールとコッホを抜いた事は確実。残念だった。
この年、アシュフォードはゲールに米国で行われた１００メートルで敗れていますね！その後、アシュフォードは１０．７９の世界新。勝負は五分五分・・・。
１９７７年～１９８２年はゲールの時代、１９８３年～１９８７年はアッシュフォードの時代なのかと。
@@user-in8gz3cw6z さん、ご返信有難うございます。当時の事を覚えている方がいらっしゃるのは嬉しいです。米東独対抗はＴＢＳで放送され、ゲールが11.39、アシュフォードが11.53だったと思いますが、400 ㍍リレーでは２走でリードしたアメリカがアンカー対決でアシュフォードがゲールに差を拡げる、という展開。しかし１９７９モントリオールＷ杯では11.06対11.17でアシュフォードの勝ち、２００でも21.83でコッホに勝つ、という風に、モントリオール五輪以来、グラディッシュ→メラーやグリフィス→ジョイナーらが台頭するまでは、世界一を争う素晴らしいライバル関係にあったと思います。
Marlies was a favourite of mine. She only tested positive for steroids in 1975 as a 17-year-old and has maintained she never used them again. I hope this is true and we don't know what pressure people were under to conform in a totalitarian society.
She was for 13 years full of dope: Documentation with proofs
ua-cam.com/video/cCsGfVTFDms/v-deo.html
haha
Marlies Göhr war 1983 insgesamt besser als Evelyn Ashford (trotz ihrer Im Juli in der Höhe gelaufenen 10,79 s) - im Juni 1983 lief Marlies zunächst Weltrekord in 10,81 s in Berlin und besiegte Evelyn beim Länderkampf USA-DDR in Los Angeles klar. Der Druck war enorm und das Ausscheiden von Evelyn im WM-Endlauf war tragisch. Marlies Göhr errang den ersten 100-m-Titel in der WM-Geschichte. Damals wie heute bin ich froh darüber. Im folgenden Jahr 1984 waren beide Sprinterinnen in Top-Form - das große Duell bei Olympia fiel leider aus - das bessere Ende hatte 1984 Evelyn Ashford für sich...
Aber eine hat gedopt, die andere nicht
Ich glaube, daß Ashford dieses Rennen gewonnen hätte, ohne die Verletzung. Aber insgesamt hat Marlies Göhr es verdient Weltmeisterin geworden zu sein. Sie war so gut und konstant, viele Jahre lang.
Der Unterschied ist zu heutigen Zeiten,dass DDR Athleren nie und nimmer an Doping persönlich rangekommen wären,sie hätten individuell nie den Kontakt und die Devisen gehabt ,um es zu zahlen.Es wurde ihnen staatlich gelenkt zugeführt,größtenteils ohne jegliches Wissen.Der Staat könnte es sich nicht leisten ,dass Jemand nicht mitmachte,wenn er es gewusst hätte.Die „Schuld „ lag nicht bei den Athleten,so gerne es mir leid tut.
@@archiewoosung5062 wer weiss das schon. Carl lewis hat auch immer andere beschuldigt und hat selbst gedopt. Und wurde vom verband geschützt
Leute wacht entlich auf 🥴 Es gab viel bessere,, Doper,, als die als Sündenbock gemachte DDR!!!
LAIHORINNE IS MY IDOL
Itänatsit vei😊
Evelyn Ashford may be the last of the clean champions. Flo Jo..doped, Fraser-Price...doped, Jeter...doped. The Ashford - Carl Lewis era is the last of the clean sprinters.
Where the proof these ppl doped
@@amayafuller5934 no real proof. But just like all the athletes knew ben was on roids, they also knew Flo Jo was on it. www.thefreelibrary.com/FLO-JO+DID+USE+DRUGS+TO+WIN%3b+Steroids+transformed+her+says+training...-a060559543 She and most of the athletes didn't get caught so, technically there is no proof. But track people know.
@@deeniology101 but she didn't die of an heart attack she died if a seizure from epilepsy that article don't even got how she died right
@@amayafuller5934 true...this article was written a couple days after her death and the actual cause probably had not been determined yet.
Man you just sound like a person that love Evelyn Ashford you don't have to pull others down just to uplift the one you like... You call Evelyn Ashford clean how do you know..have you ever looked at Evelyn Ashford eyes have you ever shook her hand before...then drag flo Jo.... flo Jo never failed a drug test in her entire life or death that article that you drugged up was bogus and you know it... You don't have to smear others to lift up the one that you admire..
GDR Best!!!
It's ok. The next year Ashford won the Olympics without the East German women and then beat them with a world record right after the Olympics. It was one of the few times that a clean North American athlete beat the drugged up East Germans. If you ever saw Ashford up close and saw her lithe physique you knew she was clean and was just more talented than the East Germans ... and she was super nice as well. A great athlete and well-liked person in the sport.
She looked tiny next to Flo Jo - tells you all you need to know
Florence Griffith was a normal athlete...then she became Florence Griffith-Joyner.
everybody was drugged up, East Germans, West Germans, Soviets and last, but really not least, US-Americans!
Flo Jo ..have to be the greatest.. she's not even in this race her name wasn't even Joyner at this time lol and yet she's the topic of so many people imagination LOL
Certainly the dirtiest.
@@simonhindley65 the burden of proof is on the accuser you make an attempt to drag a person name through the mud should be easy for you to answer these simple questions... What was the drug flow Joe used by name.. when was that drug found in her system... When did she have to face a panel.. how long was her suspension... Prove your ignorance
Of course I can't do that, you pathetic fangirl, but it doesn't mean I'll ever believe she was clean. I can't do any of that for Marita Koch, either, but I won't bury my head in the sand where she's concerned, either.
The only thing about that is correct is that I'm not American. And I do praise God for that. You deranged freak.