BREAKING NEWS! Interview with Ex Co-Worker of Stephan Sterns
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- #madelinesoto #stephansterns #jennifersoto #breakingnews #update BREAKINGS NEWS!!! Interview with Ex Co-Worker of Staphan Sterns.
Recently I did an interview with Stephan Stern's ex co worker. She explained many disturbing things about the relationship between Madeline Soto, Jennifer Soto and Stephan Sterns. Let me know what you think.
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Yes, Everyone, I Know it's called exhibitionist, however Sterns was into voyeurism so i said reverse voyeurism. Focus on the important elements of the video.
do you think he gave Maddie to many drugs to sedate her and accidently killed her??
@@teresadavis4375 possibly
That little girl never had a chance
I know 🥹
Poor Maddie had no idea how much danger she was in 😢
😢😔🙏🏼
Maddie is in heaven safe in the arms of Jesus ❤️no one can hurt her anymore 🙏🏼
There are more little girls going through this abuse. SHAME ON ALL MOTHERS ALLOWING THIS😢😢 TO HAPPEN allowing your daughter to sleep with that FILTH😢😢
Agreed. We are the safe keepers of our Children.
Why do Mothers allow men to move in.
My daughter is 18 and up until now I’ve
only dated, no live in’s.
@@deadlyqueens exactly my precious daughter is 8 yrs an when i heard he abused Maddie from 8 yrs i got disgusted. An there are so many little girls being abused.Thats why i tell my daughter if any one touches you inappropriately shout NO STOP IT an tell me or mummy It could be her uncle or her grandmother or my 81 yr old dad
This is so shocking! Jen actually telling him to go sleep with her little girl in other bedrooms.. then always giving her a hard time and he’d swoop in to Maddie’s rescue, Jen disgusts me!
@@aprilstorm i agree really DISGUSTING
Not just girls
After 12 years researching predators.. id say sterns telling ppl weird stuff is him testing the water to find like minded predators...
Like Jen Soto. I’ve thought the same. And really wonder about that woman.
NOT saying this means everyone is like this by any means. BUT Jen was openly BiSexual and was really over weight when he met her. They both had gastric sleeves and I think both may have been stunted by awkward teen years. Then BOTH are obsessed with Disney, playing kid games, he paints action figures, and role playing. Jen was on like 15 medications - Narcodics and is on disability for it. She was on like Lithium, Zannex- MAJOR MEDICATIONS. So I think when she was doped up he would have free reign with her child. This is why she hasn't been charged. She was in two psych wards since 2019 that her roommate knew about.
@kelliintexas3575 This is interesting. This kind of has a ring of truth about it. Where did you find this info? I'm kind of at the beginning of a deep dive into their backgrounds.
Exactly
Or to breed new victims that then belong to him
He’s so creepy looking
The picture of him younger looks like a weird anime character 😣
The one picture of him and Jenn dressed up made me realize just how normal they both looked..I would have never guessed.
Poor poor Maddie
@@plato7660 My husband and I said the same thing....he dont look real or human he cant be hes a monster.
@@nora7469 I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought so! This is a person who makes you feel creepy just looking at a picture of his nightmarish anime face 😱
He so gross and creepy that I can’t watch videos with his picture in them. I just listen, but hide the video. His face makes me ill.
He only wanted Maddie 😢😢😢😢
Oh and a new baby too.. that’s the only reason he asked the coworker if she wanted to get pregnant by him, in my opinion of course..
Ummm no, let's lay the blame where it belongs, Jennifer allowed Stephan to lay with Maddie not the other way around. Maddie has been the victim of Stephan and Jennifer since she was 8yrs old. This is so fkn disturbing
Exactly
She either trusted him 1000% to not be a pervert, or she knew or she's incredibly slow mentally! Anyone with any common sense isn't going to allow their child to "cuddle" with your boyfriend in a bed to themselves, or anywhere! Crazy!
I generally remove any comment that starts with "ummmm"
Why does that seem to trigger you? It comes across a bit controlling too. You should be thankful this person is engaging on your channel and leaving a comment. You can reply something snarky back but I won't be reading or replying. @@GrayHughesInvestigates
To be fair, even someone slow mentally could feel and know this is wrong. These kind of ppl are just very dangerous.....
Nobody is that naive, she put that child in dangers path. She should be charged.
Women will do this to hang on to some crappy man
no she uses the excuse that she has mental issues far too much to excuse her actions and i’m sick of it
No excuses for Jenn allowing Stephan to sleep with Maddie period!!
Jenn is complicent in my opinion. As a mom, I believe 100% she knew enough. RIP Maddie. You deserved so much better.
The very sight of him makes me sick🤮 .
I just don't buy the fact that Jen didn't AT LEAST know that something was seriously disturbing! I just don't buy it. Thank you for all your hard work GHI!!!
I agree ❤️❤️
@jodykillam1595 I think that's what caused Jen to break up with him.
I wonder if that’s why Maddie & her mom didn’t get along. Often these mothers who allow their kids to be molested are mad at the kids as if their child is the other woman type of thing. Maybe that’s why Jen threatened to kick Maddie out.
@@southbug27 I think you're exactly right. 💯
@karenholley8356 could be! But she still allowed him to come back over and sleep with her daughter?? Good lord, that just makes me sick! I just don't get it.
Sociopath con artist. This guy is scary on a whole new level.
I remember Stephen Sterns younger photo from the dating app POF in Georgia. I thought his face was too feminine looking so I skipped his profile from 10 years ago. Thank god.
@@GigiValois wow
You said exactly what I was thinking - without the beard he is so feminine/weird looking.
😳🤯🤯🤯🤯
🤮🤮🤮
That is exactly why I have never ever joined a dating app 😬
Thankfully you didn’t engage with him 🙏🏻
Please arrest the mother!!!!!!
Jennifer needs to go to jail, that’s what I think.
I agree with you sweetheart 100%❤❤
She allowed him to sleep with her teenage daughter
Do we know if was indeed pregwhen he murdered her?
@@valerymortensen3303 She wasn't or he would have been charged with 2 counts of murder
@Mewsette1 thank you, some of these people just won't let go of things and then speak as if they have never heard of any other murder case.
@@valerymortensen3303she was not, this is a horrible speculation. They said her period was late but it did come so let's not give credibility to rumors about Maddie pls
My husband a step father to my girls would NEVER sleep in the same bed as either one. I wouldn't have allowed that crap either ge would be GONE.
It's beyond belief. Glad your a good mum.
I have a hard time believing Maddy forgot her phone a lot. Even if she had a disability. Kids are so attached to their phones these days, I wouldn't be surprised if Sterns was hiding it or withholding it from her to make her do stuff to get it back. Stephan Sterns is truly the biggest POS I have ever seen.
😮piece of work!😢
He probably took and hid her phone so she couldn’t call 911 when things went down.
Working in Disney world is the best way to find a single mom . How disgusting just saying. 😢😢😢
Yep,and there's absolutely no telling how many other child predators are working there either!
I believe that's the whole point in working at Disney. ..perfect place to meet single moms. Just waiting for the dumbest, careless, unsuspecting and very naive mother to come along so he can prey on her child. As a mother myself, it's her job to be aware and on guard and protect them at all cost. I am blown away by Jens Sottos actions. She failed her daughter in so many ways.
@@jessicapazo7718
If he's a predator and a murderer, he is also a liar.
@@personanongrata7976 and a thief! He stole her joy, her innocence, and her life!
@@personanongrata7976 but then again all predators are liars and beyond evil so you were right about that
Jen is negligent. Imo
She's more than negligent. She's culpable!
Arrest Jen Soto.
Everyone in Maddie’s life failed her Including Bio Dad!!!!🙄🙄
Yes!
IMO she’s complicit at least.
What do ppl know about the Bio Dad??
Also I think he drugged her often. He mentioned she took her night time meds. Teachers would say she had sleepy days. Maddie told her friends she stopped taking the adhd meds.
This guys eyes are super creepy. Can’t look at them. Evil!
Where is Jen?!
She hasn’t said a single word since SS was arrested, not even a post to say how horrified she is by what’s happened to Maddie, or to explain her side.
She had no problem giving media interviews to lie for her man, but now that her daughters dead body has been found she’s camera shy??
THIS!!
He is a weirdo, obsessed with Maddie that is why he talked about her nonstop. I wonder if he did this to any other little girls.
WHERE THE HELL IS JEN SOTO??!!
Probably in a psych ward. I would imagine that Jenn's parents will not want anything to do with her. They will have to sell the condo for dirt cheap... no one will want to live in it, knowing what happened there. Even if Jenn isn't arrested, her life is over.
In a mental institution, I heard.😮
@@sarahbrome5564BIG Time "OVER"!!!
@@MaryAnn-ob4qb They would never keep her that long.
I was wondering the same thing !
They both are lying the mother was/is an abuser as well !! Probably not his first victim
Yes, and i totally believe they were bot involved in selling this trash to other creeps on the dark web. Multiple tripods in Jennifers house?????
No way or she would have been charged with something. They checked everything to make sure she wasn’t involved
@@jenreilly8058Oh she absolutley was involved this didnt happen once this went on for years She gave poor Maddie to him ,by her own admission .Are you her🤔you seem to be the only one trying to defend her
if he walked out naked u would think anyone who saw this would run away..😢 disgusting
That's not normal in any family 🤬
It’s great you got an interview with his ex coworker!
too sick. poor Maddy wanted his body heat. this is yuk. what a Sick thing. not human. if Maddy had lived she would of needed Extreme councilling. so nauseating.
that's what he claimed
Maddie DID NOT. She even told her counselor he gave her the creeps.
Answering your question about why he would share details with the coworker, I think he was testing her range of acceptance of his interests, if you know what I mean. If she had boundaries on appropriateness of sexual things, he was opening a window into his proclivities. All I can think of, that after developing trust, he was pushing her boundaries and seeing how she would react. It’s hard for us as to decipher. Hope the coworker is healing well. Interesting interview.
yep
Yep. This is how it starts. This is how they find their sick partners in crime.
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This coworker should feel ashamed of themselves and punished by the law for not reporting what they heard from Sterns. Im sick of bystanders getting a pass.
I thought same thing. He was trying to test out if she was okay with being a monster as well. Sometimes it does work from the stories I hear.
Jenn never placed Maddie first.
Her repulsive predator boyfriend, her girlfriend, her job etc etc all came before Maddie. Maddie was never a priority. Breaks my damn heart as a mother of two kids on my own. My two children are my top priority. Everything I do, I do with their best interests at heart. I'll never understand these women, if you can't put your children's needs before your own wants, and desires, don't have them. Children are a gift, they're precious! They're our future, and should be treated as such!
I wish she had been a mandatory reporter. Or just reported it.
She supposedly would sub for Maddie's school.
@@dejectedsmilez then she was a mandatory reporter. Grrr
Please!!! He was NOT dumb, forgetful,bad with computers,bad with directions,maps. Just a sorry, charming and helpless guy. Yeah Right...this demon is one of the smartest, manipulative,lying, intelligent mo fos ive ever had the displeasure of hearing about.
💯👏👏👏👏👏👏
Side note- I haven’t heard/seen “mo fos” in so long! Nostalgic 😆
But everything you said is so true- and how disgusting of a man to go above and beyond in such an evil way!
He wasn’t so smart in the end thankfully and got caught.
The only possible reason I can see for 3 in one bed is that they're both attracted to the child. Honestly. Even if it were her bio father, I'd expect that to end by say age 6 at the very latest and only if they'd had a bad dream or something. But with some random guy like this, it doesn't seem protective to me for the mom to be there, but even more disturbing. That old saying about the duck's walk and the duck's quack is so true. A decent man would break it off with any mother who'd be OK with this, he'd be 'creeped out.'
💯, great comment!
EXACTLY RIGHT. My Nieces would fall asleep with me as a toddler and my husband would carry them to their bed when he was ready for bed. When they got like 5-6 I would let her sleep on the floor if she got scared. My husband was like your TOO BIG to be in our bed! 😅 They finally gave up. I can't imagine a Mom sending a BF WITH HER CHILD. 🤢🤮
Jen knew.
She just turned a blind eye to it / lived in denial. Very selfish woman. Reminds me of my own “mother”.
Wrong. I was a child victim for 11 years and my own mother called me a liar so I don't sympathize with enablers. Jenn was NOT an enabler. She was manipulated through years, possibly even drugged at times (by him) and eventually fully trusted him and HE is the one to blame and accuse. Period.
@@moonwatche99I said what I said. “Period”.
@@moonwatche99She drugged herself🙄and y'all need to stop lying about being a past child victim just so u can defend an enabler🙄
Dang he looked just like an alien in that younger pic
Eyes way too far apart head too big
Anytime a guy has told me that a woman is just a friend I ask “how would she describe herself/the relationship with you if asked?” Esp these guys living with ex’s for “financial reasons.” This guy needs to be put under the jail. Such a perverted creep.
I agree Gray,that he groomed them both over time. But I dont believe a darn word that comes out of his mouth. Yes I think he is a predator and wonder, has he tried to groom other women or children. Like he was seeking the employee to see how she felt about his behaviors. He is a habitual liar, self serving a$$hole , and a disgusting pervert, imo not worth the air he breathes. Jenn has made some very bad choices concerning Madeline. It's heart breaking what Madeline went thru.💔🕊🕊🕊
MAY GOD REST HER YOUNG SOUL.
@robynxenis
I agree bc he has to have a similar past before he met the Soto’s in what was it 2017 or 18? I’m surprised nobody else has come forward. But maybe not. This would be one hell of a filthy case to present yourself into. Unless only LE knows? It would be best to save this for the court case rather than splattering some others family into it to be torn apart online . Grey has old friends ( childhood teen friends ( men) who have spoken out re SS .. I fell asleep before I could read most of it.
From memory his one friend describes him as a nutcase. The friend was at the Soto residence and described his memory of what he felt about the situation. Going to read more about the either 4 or 6 old teenage friends today. Bloody well sick case. Poor Maddie, May she rest in peace🙏❤️
Dang youre trying so so hard to come to Jen’s defense. After you chewed out the very audience that gives you views, then begged us to like, share, subscribe….bizarre
The more I hear about this case, the less I understand why JS hasn't been arrested. So many people failed Maddie, it is unacceptable.
Thanks for the video. This confirms to me that we cannot trust a single thing he's ever said. I think he judges it by the moment & then plays to that by saying whatever fits that moment. He's a shapeshifter. Thank goodness he's locked up now but its horrifying that it took Maddie's passing to expose everything.
No compassion, the so called mom!😢😮😢
"allowed MADDIE to sleep with stephan....dont you mean jenn allowed STEPHAN to sleep with Maddie". Big difference
Right, let's lay the blame where it belongs -- which is definitely NOT on poor Maddie. 😢
@@snicky58 well its nobody but Jenns fault
No its absolutly not.
Even an half way intelligent person, wouldn't let a grown man, sleep in bed with your daughter, many times alone, it's unnatural.
When police searched the house, they found a tripod and mast..... cream in the room, How the hell would a tripod goes un noticed by Jen??? Come on.
No its absolutly not!
Even a half way intelligent person, wouldn't let their child sleep with an grown man,many times even without their presence, its unnatural.
Even Jen stated the part about the b*ner incidents.
When the police searched the house, Thy found a TRIPOD and masturba... cream. How could the tripod and the masturb... cream, in plain sight, go un noticed by Jen?? Come on!!
When the police searched Jen's house, they found a tripod and mastur... cream in plain sight in the bedroom. How the hell could that go unnoticed to Jen, atleast the tripod??? Its not like he only used it once.
Even a half way intelligent person, doesn't let their young daughter sleep in the bed with a grown man, many times without their presence.
She also stated the b&ner incident to the police. Ohh she knew alright! Jen will sell her soul for a plea, because she will be arrested and i hope she gets NONE.
The evidence is overwhelming, they dont need her.
15:11 For any future experiences people may have like this, you can report these things to the police and then the police can check these things out.
no eww that's grose. always look in the eyes of a perpetrator. he must of thought his junk was special. hopefully inmates in prison will give him a lesson in Soap...
Arrest the mother for child SA in her house
I agree with the fact he probably groomed them both that is what predators usually do but I also think jen is they type to find out something was happening and be in denial about it sweep it under the rug it's not happening kinda thing just like she denied knowing anyone in the photo of maddie being abused the mindset of if I dont believe it it didnt happen
That's my thoughts on it
Jen as a single mom seems aloof & disengaged. The ideal victim for a pedophile.
He was definitely trying to test the waters out with the coworker and see if she was a creep too
Sorry- i commented before i heard you say "comment about this new news"-i think he very well groomed Jennifer to be able to get to his Real target, Madeline. I think he thinks highly of himself, even tho hes absolutely disgusting in every way, but yes, definitely a classic predator! ~
That picture of Madeline & her real papa 🥺😭😭 That was such a precious moment in time... Just broke my heart! 😥 i cant imagine his pain of loosing his babygirl to a monster her mom literally spoon fed to a predator! Just disgusting! I dont understand how any1 can do such disgusting things to a child! I hope to god he gets prison justice, i want an eye for an eye for that sick F*ck! 😠
Im so sorry Madeline😭 I hope she is resting in paradise 🙏🕊❤️
did they autopsy Madeline ? I always thought maybe Madeline told him she missed her period ...and that is why he killed her...but Jen needs to be held accountable for her treatment of Madeline...
DAAANG! First time I’ve seen a pic of him at this age! YIKES!
Rest in heavenly, peace sweet Maddie. So many people are fighting for your justice. You will not be forgotten.
A narcissist is very controlling/lies.He is a creepy individual in sooo many ways!!
The whole world understands the unacceptable behavior of allowing Sterns to cuddle/sleep with Maddie. Only this blitzed-out mother was clueless. One would think that these events would at some point be found out by the sister, a cousin or Jenn’s mother and that they would have set Jenn down and explained the seriousness of this behavior! WHERE WERE THEY? Did they never visit Jenn’s condo? Did this subject NEVER come up in conversation? Was Jenn shut-off from her family? I hope we learn more about Jenn’s mental state at some point.
stephan had maddie groomed
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesThat may be…..but it doesn’t address how no one in the family found out this was going on. And hadn’t this been happening for years?
@@123RockchildYes years this went on ,But everyone ecspecialy Jen claims to not knew Bull Sh##.....
The idea that he had a desire to expose himself to others and then act as though it is an accident repeatedly makes me feel that he has sadistic tendencies. To startle others with his nudity, and then to relay that to someone else, seems like he was reliving it to tell it and enjoyed the secondhand embarrassment that the listener feels when he tells this story. I also think he may have been aroused when he told the coworker how he would find himself when in the bed with MS. He likes to relive the experience and make others uncomfortable by telling them about it. He gets to experience it all over again.
We dropped her off, she was lying for him from the start, plus its wrong under any circumstances to send a child off to sleep with a grown man. Buy her a teddy or a pet to snuggle not an adult man. Come on wake up.
He has a couple videos that the “We” is a figure of speech and she corrects it and says her partner. LE doesn’t think she did anything wrong or she would have already been charged
@@jenreilly8058or maybe they’re still looking
@@jenreilly8058Jensen a liar ,who even lied to help cover up poor Maddies death ,Why you trying to protect Jen, Are you her???if so what a sorry pos
I have to say I think Jennifer is one very dumb person. In this day and age with so much information available about crime and sexual deviance just how could she have failed her daughter in such an awful way? Send her to jail for a while, that is my humble opinion.
Good reporting! If Jen isn't arrested within the next few months I'll be surprised. IMHO they have probable cause already, perhaps they want a "slam dunk" beyond a reasonable doubt before they get grand jury to indict!
Seeing Maddie in her daddy’s lap looking up at him makes my heart melt. He had no idea what was happening to his precious baby girl. 😢😢😢
Yes she only saw her dad once a year. I think she’s looking at him like who are you?? She loved SS and didn’t like her Dad,,, her friends said???
@@jenreilly8058She didnt love him ,I bet she feared him & wish she could get away from them both.....
7:37 This type of harassment is terrifying. I’ve experienced this and I’m still deeply traumatized by this abuse.
Jens behavior is bizarre. She must have known about SA.
Just hit the like button
Okay that's definitely EXTREMELY creepy.
Off topic, but bothersome observation: “She didn’t make it”, this (repeated) phrase sounds like describing someone who died of injuries from an accident. Not how I would expect truancy to be described. Why did Jenn describe her daughter’s absence from school this way, was it describing her manner of death?
And you probably also noticed how Stephan said several times during his police interviews that they had "time to kill" because they had left early? Disgusting.
@@snicky58 😰
Good observation!
This is the only channel I can get factual non biased information on this case. Thank you for this Gray! ❤️
Paula over at plunder. Site is great too.
This was so interesting! So gross what SS told this woman and she believed that Jen must’ve known about him & Maddie. I still think the jealousy angle
I agree the Mom was jealous of poor Maddie, even tho she allowed it ,How twisted
We don’t know about jealousy or many things ppl are speculating. Ppl can agree but we really don’t know.
I try to understand her mental illness bc I lost a dear friend who is institutionalized for life due to her debilitating bi polar illness. This happened over time as she was an accountant, had her own office and it was difficult to see her deteriorating. It’s obvious JS is repeating or trying to memorize word for word what SS has told her to say. This is where dumb lies are involved. SS is such a pos Pig he should have known JS couldn’t carry out his lies without faltering.
He knew Maddie was dead but until the trial it’s very possible JS thought her daughter was missing.
I doubt she will survive her daughter’s death. She will most likely not be behind bars but might as well be bc she will be in a mental institution . Her family would be protecting her right now but won’t be able to save her demise. Imagine that JS thought it was fine to share with the world that she approved of Maddie sleeping with SS😮 bc she feared sleeping alone. What normal person would think this was okay to share with the world? Let’s be honest no right minded person would. SS saw two weak minded naive females and he pounced himself right into their home. I think that’s the reason JS has not been charged or she is already hospitalized . I’ve seen mentally ill ppl ( schizophrenic and bipolar etc) eventually deteriorating into death or tied down most days in a mental hospital. This man chose JS bc she had a young daughter. He’s a sick pedophile but he knew what he was doing. From what I’ve read JS was gay. There is a channel I believe the woman’s name is Jai who had a border from 2017 or 18 who rented a room at JS’s house and she speaks of her time living at the Soto resident property. Interesting read as the woman speaks about the normalcy’s she saw in the home early on. Just makes one think how life for Maddie changed over time.
PPL can assume and speculate but it is difficult to do this when the person is mentally ill. Obviously SS was probably on his best devious behaviour when first moving in. He played mother and daughter like a piano. He was running the place on JS’s money/ home/ daughter as well as his wealthy parents gave him $$ whatever he wanted. I suppose he thought he had a pretty good gig for himself. Sick mf was running the show with his wealthy parents, their money , fancy car etc. Also JS’s home, money and her precious daughter. Him knowing she was ill and feeding her whatever kind of meds to screw her up more. He had full control. Yet JS still managed to be the only one working her part time jobs. SS knew he walked into his kind of gold mine.😡 A mentally ill woman who had a daughter. Perfect setting for a pedo everything he wanted along with his silly toys all for free.🤬
I think somebody needs a forensic accountant to look up and see if SS or JS deposited money somewhere from selling CSAM. Jennifer had a 2022 car and everybody says she doesn’t work and that SS was constantly buying expensive little gamer trinket things, and his buddy said he always had lots of money. So where was all the money coming from? No one was working. I heard somewhere that perhaps they were part of a larger CSAM operation and that’s why Jen hasn’t been charged yet. They are hoping she can name some names and bring some of their cohorts down. I really don’t know what happened or how it happened. I just think Jen is in it up to her eyeballs.
IMO, with face recognition software available, the FBI probably has the best of the best software and they would know if she was in any CSAM that was distributed. We would have seen it in the reports by now.
I thought the same thing had anyone verified this alleged job she had ?? Also I believe there was other reasons jen didnt attend her Bday party,He makes me sick But she makes me sicker, because that was her daughter
Somebody said on one of the other platforms that she was working at one of the Disney hotels out there and that the person said that their sister or their friend or somebody was training her I think it was the Coronado Springs hotel. I’m not sure what she was being trained to do.
1:57 mf whitey dragon ballz character wit doze peedo i's😢
He is extremely strange looking w/o the beard.
without a doubt, he's a predator and he found a family he could prey on. he's definitely a liar too. if he was telling stories to LE, reporters, coworkers, [insert other people], he was definitely telling jenn stories and there's no telling what he's told her. he'd been getting away with what he was doing to her for so long, he got cocky and thought he was good enough to fool LE. i can't wait for these trials to begin and to be concluded, so she can rest in peace 🕊
I don’t think Jen had anything to Maddie’s murder. But I don’t understand why she is not arrested already & charged with negligence. They must be a boat load of charges that apply. I will be furious if Jen is not charged with anything
She would have already been charged. He fooled Jenn and Maddie. His trial is supposed to happen soon, they aren’t charging Jenn . There is no NEW evidence so no she isn’t
@@jenreilly8058for now.
@@jenreilly8058lies ....Jen knew ,Jen allowed the abuse ,Jen refuse to stop the abuse ,Jen was jealous of Maddie.....
@@ladyleo944 nope or she would have been arrested and she’s not and isn’t gonna be
@@jenreilly8058 well then justice wont come until shes behind bars to....Shes just as guilty as him
Wait... so the monster himself was telling people that he was sleeping alone with Maddie and NOBODY called the police or children's services? Because if he told a coworker he was with 3 times, he told other people too.
No. See approximately 5:50. He told the coworker all 3 slept together
@@originalsixx I misunderstood. Thank you.
I think Jen knew what was going on. How the hell course not know. Over 4 years of SA of Maddy and she had no clue?????
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Sex choking cause of death imo
She looked so much like her Father, poor guy must be going through it now. I’d be so angry!
How was Jen supposed to be able to oversee any activities when she is conked out on medication in her room? Stephan is a liar...and so is Jennifer. I don't care what kind of relationship these two adults agree on, what is in question is Jen aiding and abetting Sterns with his sexual proclivities, even after he told her he wakes up with a woody lying next to Maddie. Both needs to be in jail. It seems whenever she could map out her schedule to allow him more time with Maddie - that's exactly what she did. JMO
I don't understand how Jenn could be so dumb. It's maddening that she allowed this to go on for so long and didn't question anything.
1- The Spicy time, I think another ex mentioned he was rough,& freaky, maybe thats what she meant.
2. Co worker having a baby I agree, He was looking for child victim.
3. Ive always felt Maddie aged out for his liking but still liked it, after finding out how old she was when it started. From what ive learned these men have a age & look they like. Maddie was growing up & developed alot since 8yr old.
4. It is Against the Law to sleep with your child at a certain age, state to state may different the age.They also have their own room with opposite s3x in the home.
5. Imo- Jen is accountable for her child, especially under her roof 😑
*Hold more parents responsible for minor children & maybe it'll protect more children 🤞
I think Jennifer just didn't want Madeline around she was just a bother for her so she would give her off to Stephan. And the father pretty much didn't see her often either. So I put alot of blame on Jennifer for what happened cause if she would have been a good mother nothing would have happened.
You are reaching and making up stories that have not at all been confirmed as truth. Your thinking is clouded.
Had her father been more present and played an active role in Maddie's life, it's possible she wouldn't have been groomed since she'd have her father to rely on for emotional support when she fought with her mother, etc.
@@moonwatche99what part of the comment is reaching and made up? Jenn admitted she was on prescription sleep meds and would tell Stephan to go sleep with Maddie in an upstairs bedroom. Maddie's father hasnt really been in her life much. This is all public knowledge.
I 100% agree! As more and more information comes out regarding Jen’s odd behavior, I thought this as well! It’s almost as if she didn’t want to be bothered by either of them so she pushed them off into another room and didn’t want to be bothered. I think something went too far that night resulting in Maddie’s de*th and I believe Jen told him to what to do afterwards. Disposal etc. Stephan is an idiot and may not have done everything exactly to what Jen said and when things started being uncovered, Jen totally distanced herself. Jen definitely knew what was happening.
@@TheVAULTofHORRORI would say it is PROBABLE that she wouldn’t have been groomed.
These weasels that like children aren’t going to risk it when there’s a father to contend with.
Well if the coworker had reported what Stephan told her about what he said about Maddie at that time maybe Maddie would still be alive. If a man I was dating or was dating told me something like that about a child I would have been on the phone with the police asap!
If only that coworker had called the police.
I don't think she actually had enough to do that.
she definitely could and should have reached out to someone. CPS?
Or just told more people what he was telling her. If some guy told me disturbing stuff like this, best believe the whole office or workplace would know.
Jennifer would definitely force her to sleep in the same bed and force her to cuddle him.. she hated maddie. Its so obvious
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Jennifer had to know 5 yrs sleeping w Maddie! Please!
She didn't call CPS when he told them about Maddie sleeping with him.
Jen is (IMO) one of those women who has to have a man in her life!
Maddie looked just like her father 😢
Just like her mother 😊. Same cheeks/jaw/mouth/teeth. Same low hairline. Same eyesight. Same double chin. Same nose. Same eyebrows. Same bulging eyes.
There is a sex act that lots of people do that involves choking the woman during the act claiming it enhance the event. So maybe he didn't mean to kill her, but she died on him. But if he confesses that happen then he is incriminating him self messing with her at all. So he started planning what to do with her.
I was a single parent. When I dated, which wasn't often, before I allowed my male friends to meet my children, I told them, "if you ever touch my children, I will kill you." That statement ran a few of them off, which probably saved my family from a situation like this. I meant what I said, and I think they knew that.
I believe Jen knew the entire time and I hope cell phone text show the evidence against her. She look like she might have texted him and told him fine if you don’t come I’m turning you in and tell them u made me do it with u. So I think she used what he was doing against him.
That's a little far fetched. If there were text evidence as you suggest they would've already arrested her.
@@ItalianPrncss196 not if they making sure everything is right. He used her car the night Maddie was reported missing. The dog got a better hit on her car than his. Jen was in on if she wasn’t WHY did she stay in the hotel with him while her home was being cleared as a crime scene. If he said he dropped your daughter off at school she goes missing then your home is considered the crime scene why was she still in his face.
@@ItalianPrncss196 for all we know they could have enough evidence for Jen to get life too who knows
@@natashagraham1686 believe what you want, but I don't think she was ever involved. Stupid? Maybe, but not involved.
@@ItalianPrncss196 why would she lie and say she saw her Monday morning and why would she try telling what she was wearing if she didn’t see her. Then why was she sneaking letting Maddie sleep in the bed with that man and they were spooning with Jen in the bed and out of room where they were alone. Then go back and look at her face when they say the her school laptop can be tracked she looked like shut the f up now. Then she didn’t ask any follow up questions about trying to trace or track the laptop. Think about it if she really had it on her it could’ve came to a end right away by tracking it and finding her right then and there. Then explain the next day how was Jen able to even speak without crying im a mom. As a mom just watching her and listening to her makes me think 🤔
Damn that coworker could've saved her but instead did nothing.
@@stackorlee6053 what was she supposed to do?
IF YOU HAVE PROOF OF A CRIME IS THE ONLY TIME A COP CAN DO ANYTHINGGGGGG.
@@donnacash954 report it
I think he was testing his far Jennifer would let him go, as far as him coming out naked. I also think the “phone incident” involving Maddie that he referred to in his police interview was something that he perpetrated. There was something in the probable cause document that talked about him making Maddie do things for him in exchange for things like phone privileges. I think he made her do whatever it was on the phone and then left it there to see how Jennifer would react to seeing it. To see if it was something that turned her on or something that she was in to so that he could indoctrinate her to his perversion.
It always amuses me when these channels tell you to hit the Like button “straight out of the gate”, as in this video, when you haven’t had the chance to watch it yet! How would I know if I’m going to like it or hate it when all I’ve seen is the title, which is usually misleading anyway?
8:16 this picture of him is scary asf like i cant imagine having this creature on me touching on me. Poor Maddie 😞 she is no longer hurting
He makes me sick just looking at him
i think having to dig this deep to try and see someone's "innocence" is very telling, she needs to be charged.
jennifers mother says ex boyfriend
He has hundreds of videos and pics. Mom let this go on for a very long time
Jen knew about the abuse
And Jen ain't no angel
@@suemarie6676I agree 💯%....She definetly knew