Sting and Dominic Miller Talk Beatles and the Future of Music
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2023
- In this episode Sting and Dominic Miller talk about the magic of The Beatles and their optimism for the future of music.
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Sting's description of bringing home a new (vinyl) record album, placing it carefully on the turntable, reading the entire liner notes, who were the band members, the engineers, every detail he mentioned, that was what it meant to me!
When he said that, I kind of flipped out because the very last vinyl record I ever bought was Nothing Like the Sun in the Fall of '87. I still remember placing the needle down on the opening track, Lazarus Heart. The fabulous ramp up to that driving, joyous sound of coming out of my Klipsch speakers. Bradford's horn. A fresh new musical experience. The digital versions are all too compressed. It's just not the same.
I'm so glad I grew up in the magic world of rock music and radio. Computers and digital stole it all. And the real sadness is, kids today don't even realize what they don't have... 😢
I was literally devastated - the energy drained from my limbs - when David Moyse (guitarist for Air Supply) told me in the early 80s that CDs would totally replace records in a few years. I said to him, "No! No! They can't! Vinyl IS the artform!" And I still think that - You get a poster size album cover you can actually see - and designers could really go to town. Imagine Sgt Peppers or Captain Fantastic album covers if they had only ever been released on midget formats like CD or smaller. Imagine the original covers for albums like Sticky Fingers or Walls and Bridges - they would never have been created but for the LP vinyl.
And the ritual of placing the needle down - then having an intermission at half time. That's how classic albums - especially concept albums - were crafted. Artists actually cared about song order! How's that for a novel idea today!
Yeah, I grew up with that ritual, lying on the carpet with a dim light, loved that.
As a baby from the 80’s, CD’s were that for me which i know is not the same, but i guess the point is waiting, owning and cherishing the entire album and listening intently the entire thing and reading the booklet. People pretty much rent music today, like almost everything else.
Big fan of Dominic Miller. Underrated musician, very creative, and just an all-around interesting guy. Very pleased that Dominic was included in this discussion! He's just as interesting as Sting.
Well, I have never heard of Dominic Miller before. I wish he had mentioned which Latin American musicians he used to listen. I am Brazilian. I got curious about it. This interview is amazing. I do think exactly the way they do about it was different before. Too band they cut it before the end.
@@dabreu He also took lessons from Brazilian guitarist Sebastião Tapajós.
Totally agree. Dom has always been one of my fave stylists.
Saw Sting many years ago and the opening act cancelled , so Dominic went out and played 4 or 5 songs solo . Including Shape of my Heart, which Sting came out and sang BEFORE his own show . Was great to say the least
And he Is argentinian yehaa the most argentum influencia in internacional rock
So nice to hear an interview without artist pretension, shyness, or insecurities. Just 3 guys casually talking about something they love. Thank You!
Sting is a master musician,singer and songwriter and hearing him talking about the Beatles.This is how people used to talk with eachother.
These conversations are Pure Gold. Thank you so much, Rick.
So boring... Sting always had to hire really cool (and super talented) in order to make his songs or music sound cool. Be it Dominic Miller, Vinnie Colaiuta, Kenny Kirkland, Darryl Jones etc and host of really good producers, engineers and backing singers. As for the Beatles, the worlds first boy band, enough of one band from the past. Folks like Rick Beato basically celebrate white hegemony or dare we say mediocrity in pop music thru and thru ... consequently remain clueless about what goes on beyond that small huddled universe of white men.
This cult worship is how the pop muzak industry survives. Massive yawn.....
I seriously wish all interviews were as smooth and relaxed as Rick's. I feel I could listen to these guys for hours on end and never tire.
Dominic is type of guitarist that songwriters dream about....so special, yet so open to serve music and not his ego....amazing interview....and sting, beyond expectation chill cat
This interview was fully enjoyable because everyone was so relaxed and willing to put their thoughts on music out there. Nice Job.
So boring... Sting always had to hire really cool (and super talented) in order to make his songs or music sound cool. Be it Dominic Miller, Vinnie Colaiuta, Kenny Kirkland, Darryl Jones etc and host of really good producers, engineers and backing singers. As for the Beatles, the worlds first boy band, enough of one band from the past. Folks like Rick Beato basically celebrate white hegemony or dare we say mediocrity in pop music thru and thru ... consequently remain clueless about what goes on beyond that small huddled universe of white men.
This cult worship is how the pop muzak industry survives. Massive yawn.....
Love hearing iconic musicians mentioning their own iconic inspirations and favorite songs, as they then get humble in just discussing it.
I was driving with my 18 year old son and he fed his IPhone tunes through the car speakers. I noticed all the songs were Rock tunes from the 70's. I asked him if he did that for me and was surprised. He told me "No, this is what I like to listen to". Predictive streaming services are a good thing. Its why Classic Rock will never die.
How would it die without streaming? I went to record shops and bought old records. That worked just fine. Algorithms picking songs for us takes all the romance of discovery away.
Rick really sets the stage for these artists to engage in genuine conversation - not pre-chosen talking points.
I remember looking at Sting's liner notes when "Nothing Like The Sun" came out. It was a learning experience to hear his thought process as he created that great album back in 1987.
One of my favorite albums. And part of that was reading the deep thoughts in the liner notes in the tape cassette case. I'm actually a bigger fan of Dream of the Blue Turtles which is in my top 10 or so favorite albums, ever.
Manu Katche's drumming was incredible on "Nothing Like the Sun" and also "The Soul Cages". The later was one of the most beautifully produced and written Sting albums in my opinion. I nearly wore the cover off of the album, I played it so much.
Agreed. I learned a lot from reading that and from listening to the album.
I devoured the liner notes for "Nothing Like The Sun" every time I played that album. And I played it constantly in my dorm room the year it came out.
I stumbled on a small crew that was photographing Sting and the photos were part of the video for Be Still My Beating heart. Actually got to talk to him. It's a good memory.
When I was 17 and started to listen to the Beatles in the late 90s, I knew they were very famous and influential, and that I was starting to get sick of the way pop and rock was degrading itself during those years. What I didn’t know was that they were considered the greatest and most influential band of all time. So, to my surprise, the more I listened to them and read on magazines, the more I realized that may favorite band had no comparison.
I started to listen to the Beatles aged 3 in 1969 (when they were still together). But when I'm asked what my favourite bands are, I immediately say "Joy Division, The Fall, Sonic Youth, Husker Du, Radiohead, etc., etc.". I never say The Beatles because they are in their own category of "phenomenon". There are The Beatles, and then there are all the other bands - as you say "no comparison".
Stings songs never get old. They still touch me after all these years
Nice to see Sting smiling and laughing...not being so serious. You really helped open up the guy, Rick. Great interview.
Still coming across as a bit pompous I think, and that heavy breathing?...wow! 😁
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 don’t think you realise how old he is, but I know what you mean about pompous, he was a school teacher and he reminded me of teachers I had, also I think he complicates his songs a lot, his best songs are the simple ones, I love the song about dead man’s boots,
Love Sting. A working class lad from Newcastle who made his mark. Brilliant writer and humble guy.x
I wish this video had been 2 hrs long. It was fascinating! There were so many good points made. My favourite moment was when Sting talked about when he thought to himself after hearing The Beatles, 'I know those four chords...I can try that!' That was pure gold. Yes Sting you could do that! Of course pretty much all of us thought the same thing, but 99% of us fell on our faces :) . Great video Rick as always!
This was an excerpt from the original hour long interview, made less than a year ago.
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Cutting the cellophane, scanning the liner notes, flipping the vinyl…..the rituals are gone…..this chat is pure gold 👏👏👏👏😎🥂
This was a great listen of three guys who, like so many of us, LOVE music!
Rick makes a great point about credits on Spotify. I just started using it recently and was amazed to see that album credits are nowhere to be found. It's like going back to the Motown anonymity all over again. Performers, instruments, notes from the band, all the context of the album is gone, and it's just a little picture and track names to click. I think it's very sad. It encourages a shallow experience over a deeper one. Imagine listening to a Police album and never seeing the names Stewart Copeland or Andy Summers. Or even knowing that Sting is the one singing and playing the bass.
music is consumed a la carte now. albums used to be complete presentations ( you
can thank The Beatles for that) but now its just singles downloaded in no
particular context at all. no liner notes to read when its just a wave file.
It didn’t used to be that sparse - there was SOME content - but now it’s nothing.
That's how I grew up on music. You would hear a song you like on the radio, and when it was over, they might actually tell you the singer or band name if you were lucky. You would spend hours waiting for that song to play again, hoping to hear who it was this time. It was sometimes 20 years before I even knew what a certain band looked like, or even the names of the members. But when I finally got old enough to go see these band in concert, it was the most incredible time.
@@GamingwithGamerGirls I remember hearing "Nights in White Satin" on the radio
late at night in my room and was blown away. I had to know who it was.
I tiptoed past my parents room and called the radio station to ask them.
I had " Days of Future Passed" album the next day. Still one of my three
desert island albums.
@@danielkokal8819 ha, I wouldn't have even known how to call the radio station, but that's awesome! I had to sneak out and ride my bicycle 45 miles to see my first concert... Loverboy and Aerosmith. Talk about mind blown..
Again, as I've said before, Rick's ability to put the guest at ease and 'set the bar' with some of his knowledge, makes these interviews priceless and rare. Love it, Rick. Made me want to go back and watch the whole interview again (which I will do shortly ;-)
I also grew up with a wide exposure to music. I joined my first church choir at age 4 and could read music and sing 4-part harmony by 4th grade. I was obsessed with my radio, esp. The Beatles. I sang tenor in my high school choir for the 1st time because there were only 2 of us. I guested in other choirs if they needed a lead alto for Messiah. I sang in the chorus of Die Fledermaus. I also sang in smaller ensembles from trios to octets. My favorite opus is the Berlioz Requiem. I had the privilege of performing it with our city symphony and 4 brass choirs when I was 18 (now 67). Not only is this requiem written for the chorus, it's in Latin and exquisitely difficult, the rock and roll of requiem masses. I was a music major in college. I studied piano, voice, guitar, flute, handbell, recorder, and cello, but adored theory. I feel extraordinarily lucky, because music has graced my entire life. I have a cat named Hector Berlioz Jones. He's gorgeous.
Rick this is great - I hope you will post more of this interview with Sting and Dominic.
Sides A and B of a vinyl were my world - the order of songs was so important - and I miss liner notes.
I could listen to the three of you talk all day.
Full interview is on Rick’s main channel if you search for it. Was about a year ago. It’s amazing 👍🏻
@@Zeppelin180 thank you! I'm going there next.
Records had so much more depth. Starting with the cover art, the back with the production information, many times the inner sleeve having the lyrics. The albums reflected a milestone for the artists, often attempting to create a synergy with a a compelling and coherent theme.
To echo Sting, now music is consumed piecemeal, one song at a time, unrelated to anything else in time and space. The difference of how we consume music now from then is like eating a cinnamon bun from a vending machine and sitting at a restaurant and having a full meal.
Honestly it is amazing that we finally went from short format, tense, televised interviews to relaxed, deep, interesting conversations with the biggest talents in the world. It is a 10 min video and you can feel like hanging out with musician and listen to their deep understanding of music, people, sounds.
I really appreciate this outlet and the fact that we can, all over the world, enjoy such a glimpse into the world that normally is closed to us.
I miss albums. Sting is a really fine songwriter. Dream of the Blue Turtles filled my days a long time ago.
I agree with you. He's an amazing songwriter, and I agree with Rick that he is beyond imitation. Singular.
Pretty cool when you get to hang out and chit chat with Sting, OMG!
Yes!!!... The Beatles was the first to put the lyrics of each song at the back of the sleeve with SARGEANT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND, and the first to includes the names of the producer and engineers... long live THE BEATLES... kudos from Guadalajara México 6-febrero-2023 ✌😎
Thanks Rick. I attended a Sting Concert in Pretoria South Africa in February 2023. It was an absolute highlight for me. Thanks for brining us the great musicians
Rick is a master of music and I'm glad these greats recognize it!
Wow all of a sudden Ricky boy is getting huge names on the pod, happy for him, he deserves it, he’s the real deal!
Key point - BBC played a bit of everything. American radio had an element of that. I recall the spring of 1964 hearing the Beatles, Louis Armstrong, Nat King Cole, Johnny Cash and Marty Robbins (singing Gordon Lightfoot) all on the same station within hours of each other.
Great conversation. I've been incredibly fortunate to see Sting and Dom play together on several tours starting with the "Soul Cages". I hope they never tire of performing because we fans will never tire of watching. Thanks Rick!
Great post, Rick. Thanks, man.
In '64, I was in Kindergarten when I first heard the Beatles. My favorite Christmas in childhood was my present of Beatles '65. I adored their music to Rubber Soul. After that, their character changed and I moved on to Cream, Hendrix and others until high school when I heard Birds of Fire & Hymn of The Seventh Galaxy. From then on, innovation in fusion held my heart until today with Matteo.
I can’t even count how many times I smiled during this interview. Reminded me of so many things that I miss.
Great job Rick, pose the question and then back out verbally and let your guests answer. ❤
I love how Sting hammed up the "serious art critic" for Dominic's version of Yesterday. 🤣
I've been teaching guitar for afew years, started playing when I was 11, as well as other instruments🥁🎷🎸 I will always remember Walking home from the mall with a new album by RUSH titled Moving Pictures(Tom Sawyer) when I put the record on I had mistakingly cued up the B-side listening to "the Camera Eye" & "Witch Hunt" & I was thinking that it really sucked, wasted my money. Then I listened to the A-side and was Very satisfied, hearing "Limelight", "Tom Sawyer", etc. As time went on I realized how masterful the B-side really was, love it! The whole album is solid gold "Red Barchetta"😊
I like that, towards the end of this shortened video, Dominic referenced something that Steve Lukather also mentioned in his which was the ritual of listening to an entire side of an LP then perhaps discussing what you'd just heard.
These are great interviews Rick. Thank you :)
This all hits home with me. Guess I’m in that age bracket. These interviews are my favourite part of your channel. Very informative and reaffirming that great musicians share some of the same viewpoints and experiences that you have had as a musician. Still have all the old Beatle records well scratched and worn from years of use. Sting is so insightful. Great video Rick. Thanks so much.
As Dominique Miller says, people of his and mine generation in Buenos Aires Argentina grew up with the Beatles and Stones, but also with tango and folk argentine music: from Anibal Troilo to Piazzolla, from Atahualpa Yupanqui to The Chalchaleros, And later on, in our adolescence, with Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, ELP, King Crimson, Mahavishnu and some American bands such as CSN&Y, Santana, and others. A decade later we used to hear The Police, Cure or Joy Division. Everything was to do with that Beatkes influence mentioned, the woks and albums were absolutely conceptual, and during today's spotify times that structure of music has ended up.
I strongly recommend to foreing listeners to get in touch with argentina and brazilian prog from the 70's: Crucis, Invisible, La Maquina de Hacer Pájaros, Secos & Molhados, Terreno Baldio, the chileans Los Jaivas, etc. All of them genuine music and amazing musicians. Today in argentine music, as in everything else and everywhere, all is decadence only.
Ive rediscovered vinyl since last year, it’s a totally different experience where going to the recordshop is one of my favorite activities
Absolutely interesting interview! Love Sting's music ever. What a human being and musician. Sending all my love from Buenos Aires, Argentina! Cheers, Dominic :-) Salud!
There is a new artist out, from England, named Ren. He cut his teeth Busking in Brighton, England. He's definitely reminded me of Sting once or twice (could be because he covered "Englishman in New York").
He’s very interesting. Just came across him in the past month, but would like to hear more from him.
A beautiful discussion on moving the needle back from streaming to ritual
Three greats in one room. Love this stuff. I miss the gathering of friends and the anticipation of sitting around listening to a new album/artist. I have a lot of fond memories from my teens in the seventies doing just that. Have one friend in particular who would alway invite me over to hangout and just listen to albums for hours perusing the the covers, sleeves etc. and talking music. This was/is a huge part of my life. My children don’t understand when I attempt to explain the experience. The 60’s/70’s/80’s was a phenomenal time to experience music. I feel as though we’ve lost this love toward the full experience of music. Thank you three gentlemen for your contributions to music.
Same here. My upbringng in the seventies and eighties involved a lot of hanging out with friends, listening to the latest album someone picked up after hearing one of its songs on the radio, or the import of the month, courtesy of someone's flight attendant friend who had just arrived from London. It was a great time to be alive, and sorely missed.
Great point about vinyl setting the standard for how we listen to music (5 songs on one side, 5 on the other), I don't think the younger generation thinks like that anymore... I am 50 and remember listening to a side at a time or flipping the album to listen to it all... these days its track by track and completely open to how much an artist wants to release and on what platform.
Love the interviews! Hope to see more of these!
I agree with everything that Sting has said in this interview completely.
Fantastic interview!
You left us hungry for more…at least 2 hours!
Listening to the 3 of you talking about music was delightfully entertaining!
love this interview - thanks Mr Beato
Wow! What a great interview /conversation. Awesome
Great interview. Dominic Miller is such an underrated guitarist. Check out his work with King Swamp. Just brilliant.
what a great interview. thank you rick for making these wonderful talks take place... much respect...
Absolutely fascinating chat. Thank you.
This is fantastic! Thank you!
Really really enjoyable to listen to these 3 accomplished professionals have a real conversation about their craft and the Love if their craft. Thank you to all 3 of you guys.
Great interview! Three iconic and inmortal musicians! Thanks a lot Rick!👍👋👋👋👋👋👋
Rick Beato, fantastic as always
Can you try an interview with Robin Trower? Just think of the wealth of knowledge he possesses within his hands/mind!!
Love it Rick! Hope you'll do another longer one with Sting and Dominic - two interesting musicians who live within our history.
I’m glad you don’t interrupt your guests. Good job.
The part about where music is right now and about streaming music is spot on. I discovered so many great songs when playing an album because you listened to all of it. It's far too easy to jump from hit to hit on the streaming apps and missing out on so many great songs. Kids miss out on taking their pocket money to the music shops and flicking thru the albums, looking at the great art on the covers and reading the sleeves b4 finally deciding on what to get then running up the road to get it on the record player with your mates.
Being a music lover. I bought an IPod when they first came out. I thought ,this is the greatest thing ever. Then I realized. I had stopped searching for new music. I had all my favorites with me and was only listening to those songs and artists. So, I got rid of it. I couldn’t tell you how many times that I bought a CD for the one or two radio hits. After listening to these hits over and over. I decided to let the CD play through and finding songs on it that never got commercial air play, Songs I ended up loving more than the initial radio hit. I agree with Sting. There is something special about discovering music on your own. Screw the algorithm! I’ll decide! I’ll discover and I’ll grow as a person for better or worse.
You stopping searching for music is your problem and not the technology. You could have done the same thing you did with your cds, with your iPod, except your iPod could hold many songs in a small space and be taken anywhere. Now with streaming, you can listen to full albums much easier than you would be able to with physical media. It’s up to the listener to decide how they listen. Don’t blame the technology, blame the user
Rick, you’re the best at these conversations. Carry on! 🙏💜
Thanks Rick! As always, fantastic segment.
That was really interesting - some good conversation. Thanks.
Them sharing their private joke on Yesterday is a gem! This kind of joke only happens between people who are deeply connected to each other. Admirable friendship indeed.
This was such a great interview. Everyone is just hanging out - you bring that to the table with everyone and it really is so engaging with people.
Great conversation guys, thank you Rick.
fantastic interview rick, Dom and Sting are 2 of my favorite musicians, bar none, questions and tempo perfect!
What a great interview 🔥🔥 this is a marvelous class room greetings from Puerto Rico🇵🇷
Great video and conversation! Will study it and come back with comments when done! Thank you for your Great work and Great channel Rick!
What a pleasure to hear these guys talking about Music! Great interview!❤❤
Rick! Thank you! You are the absolute best and your contribution to music helping others like me, is immeasurable!
Love it. Thank you, Rick. ❤️from Chicago.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Enjoyed the conversation. thanks.
Great interview with 2 Icons , big fan of both those guys tallents , and Sting's recordings are usually the highest quality audio you can get !! Fabullous Rick
"The commodity just fills the glass". The A and B sides. I remember them. Maybe it's just singles these days. There's no guaranteed airplay time. It can still happen. There's digital albums. No sleeve. You can look the credits up. Very cool. I'm for music.
You brought out the best in Sting. Really enjoyed it!
Alums Are Beautiful. A and B Side. To think about Every Song and the Whole. Like a Movie. Like a TV SHOW Season.
It's impotant. Like John Mayers - SOB ROCK!
Such a relaxed edition of contemplation and discussion that, due to the nature of the theme and situation, passion that's visceral emerged. Thank you Rick and the guest. Yes I've mastered the spelling of sting. Wrapped around the finger is as hauntingly gorgeous as anything I've heard. Thank you.
Very complete musicians, admired and cherished as humans as well
It's so inspiring to listen to these guys ♥
All you need is love, all you need is the Beatles!🎉❤
I relish those days with your buddies, records on the floor or bed, spread out reading who's who and from what band etc. When life had time to absorb the music. Simple wonderful memories.
I used to buy albums like Sting was saying, there was a ritual to opening an album, placing it carefully on the turn table, listening closely to each song, while read the album cover. I was excited if there were lyrics, or a poster, or some other goody in the album, and double albums were an extra treat. The great thing about an album were the songs that didn’t make the radio. We called them “deep cuts.” No one gave the deep cuts 3 stars of 5 stars, you listen the music for yourself. You heard the artists song, and sometimes it becomes a favorite from the album, it would never be on the radio. Still the artists song said something that was personal and touching for what ever reason, and I was never bother that, that personal relationship that I had with the song, was never interrupted by being blasted on the radio 10 times a day. That connect is gone once we are busy clicking on the song with the most stars.
It’s those deep cuts gave artists room to explore musically.
Music is a soulful experience for those of us that embraced the album, a collection of songs by a band you listened to as they grew and explored new ideas. Sometimes the extremely easy access we have to new music today can oversaturate the listener. The ritual of choosing which new album you were going to buy, bringing it home and immediately settling down for that first listen, there's just nothing like it. You would absorb that first listen, take a break and come back for an even deeper listening session later or the next day. I still do that, and even though I can download the album quickly, I still take the time to really listen and look forward to sharing music as well.
Rick, this was high quality thanks.
One more jewel 💎 brought forth by Rick... 💐
Fascinating and insightful interview Rick and every songwriter, wishes they'd written "Every Breath".
Great interview sting was really good and you are so good at asking questions thank you
Sting mentioned the liner notes...that's my guy right there! I loved reading that cover to cover...over and over just in case I missed something🔥
Blessed to have seen Sting many times ,,rarely have I heard such a deep interview!! Thanks!! Sting called Jerry Father Christmas..that's cool!!
Seeing Sting open for the Grateful Dead in 93 got me back into The Police and Sting. I had abandoned listening to them after they broke up after the Snynchronicity tour.
Thanks for keeping music alive.
Great interview Beato
Wonderful interview.
A great snippet from one of the greatest musical interviews ever.
Great interview, thanks
Stings description of first opening a vinyl record was perfect